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Speaker 1: be talking about the Battle to steal Ukraine. We're gonna
Speaker 1: be talking about the battle to steal the next election
Speaker 1: and the battle to steal Star Wars back from Black People.
Speaker 1: Plus Senator Chris Murphy is joining us from Hartford, Connecticut
Speaker 1: to tell us which Republicans are finally getting on board
Speaker 1: with gun control. So let's do this, people, Let's jump
Speaker 1: straight into today's headlines. Okay, let's kick things off with
Speaker 1: the ongoing Russian war with Ukraine. Or, as the Russian
Speaker 1: media says, there is no war, but we're also winning it.
Speaker 1: Ever since Vladimir Putin decided to aggressively crash on his
Speaker 1: neighboring country's couch, Ukraine has been asking America for bigger
Speaker 1: and better weapons to help them defend themselves. Now, usually
Speaker 1: when you ask America to send you weapons, they'll send
Speaker 1: them quicker than a restaurant pre cooks the food in
Speaker 1: the morning and then just reheats it when you order
Speaker 1: it at night. But because America and the rest of
Speaker 1: the world is terrified of starching World War three, rightfully,
Speaker 1: so they've had to find ways to support Ukraine without
Speaker 1: being accused of attacking Russia. And so just today President
Speaker 1: Biden announced this. This morning, President Biden has announced the
Speaker 1: US will send another seven million dollars worth of weapons
Speaker 1: defense systems to the Ukrainian military. And among the newly
Speaker 1: provided weaponry is the multiple Launched Rockets system, which is
Speaker 1: a highly capable long range system. This has been the
Speaker 1: subject of debate inside the Biden administration for weeks now
Speaker 1: whether or not to provide Ukraine with these more advanced,
Speaker 1: longer range weapons systems. Concerns within the administration that Russia
Speaker 1: might view this as a provocative step, giving Ukraine the
Speaker 1: ability to strike within Russian territory. That's why the United
Speaker 1: States actually sought assurances and secure those assurances from Ukraine
Speaker 1: that they would not use these these rocket systems to
Speaker 1: strike Russians targets on Russian territory. Yeah, that's right. Biden
Speaker 1: made Ukraine promise that they will only use the rockets
Speaker 1: in Ukrainian territory, they will not use them in Russia. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so he's basically giving them advanced rockets like a dad
Speaker 1: gives his teenager credit card. It's like, not, remember what
Speaker 1: I told you? This is only for gas groceries and
Speaker 1: the strip club. No taxbooks this time. I don't want
Speaker 1: to see that charge again. But this is major help. Though.
Speaker 1: Seven hundred million dollars, that's a ton of rockets. Well
Speaker 1: maybe it's like ten rockets. I never know with military equipment, Like, no,
Speaker 1: you never know how much anything costs. You know. It's
Speaker 1: like when someone tells me they spent a hundred dollars
Speaker 1: at Saphora. I have no idea if that's like one
Speaker 1: face cream or enough I gletter for a whole season
Speaker 1: of euphoria. I don't know how much it is. And look,
Speaker 1: I get that America is trying to find the balance
Speaker 1: between helping Ukraine and triggering its own war with Russia.
Speaker 1: But still this is putting Ukraine in a tough spot
Speaker 1: because who knows how easy these missiles also use. You know,
Speaker 1: don't want us to be in World War three just
Speaker 1: because some Ukrainian soldier entered the distance in kilometers when
Speaker 1: it was supposed to be in miles. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. It's like, oh, at one point six. But
Speaker 1: I will say this is good for Ukraine to defend themselves,
Speaker 1: and this is good for Russia to know they conscious
Speaker 1: push other countries around. And you know who this is
Speaker 1: most exciting for American missiles. Yeah, what a different experience
Speaker 1: this is going to be for them. I'm so excited. Oh,
Speaker 1: I'm so excited to be coming overseas for the first time.
Speaker 1: And the best part is I've been invited. Wow. Because
Speaker 1: my dad went to Iraq but he wasn't invited, and
Speaker 1: my grandfather he went to Vietnam and boy did they
Speaker 1: not want him there. But look at me, I got
Speaker 1: invited to Ukraine. I'm a mith. I'll go to Ukraine.
Speaker 1: They invite at me. I'm a good miss outlete, my
Speaker 1: family lay my new one man showed Missile in Ukraine
Speaker 1: will be debuting next week, you guys conjoining I sat,
Speaker 1: All right, let's move on. Disney released a new Star
Speaker 1: Wars show on their streaming platform, Disney Plus, which I've
Speaker 1: heard is good but not as good as Paramount Plus. Now,
Speaker 1: this Star Wars show is not the one about the Mandalorian,
Speaker 1: and it's not the one about Boulba fat. No, this
Speaker 1: one is about Obi Wan Kenobi, the Galaxy's most powerful hobo.
Speaker 1: And anyone can see where this is going. All right,
Speaker 1: just like show off the show on Disney. You see
Speaker 1: what they're doing now, you get it. Their plan is
Speaker 1: to release a show about every character in Star Wars.
Speaker 1: It's genius, like a ton of money. Personally, I can't
Speaker 1: wait for the job of the hot sitcom. What I know,
Speaker 1: she broke your heart, job, but you've gotta start dating again, Dude,
Speaker 1: Changing her up and putting it in a goldmikini doesn't
Speaker 1: count as a date. Silly. That shows also premiering next
Speaker 1: week anyway, The All We Want Kenobi show is introducing
Speaker 1: a lot of new characters to the Star Wars franchise,
Speaker 1: but there is one character in particular who isn't getting
Speaker 1: the warmest welcome from the fans. This morning, Obi Wan
Speaker 1: Knobi himself putting his force behind co star Moses Ingram,
Speaker 1: where after social media users launched racist attacks against her
Speaker 1: after her debut in the Jedi Knights new series. She
Speaker 1: brings so much to the series, She brings so much
Speaker 1: to the franchise, and it just sickened me to my
Speaker 1: stomach to hear that this has been happening. We stand
Speaker 1: with Moses, We love Moses, and if you're sending her
Speaker 1: bullying messages, you're no Star Wars fan in my mind. Moses,
Speaker 1: sharing she had received hundreds of racist messages following the
Speaker 1: series premiere. There's nothing anybody can do to stop this hate.
Speaker 1: I think the thing that bothers me is that like
Speaker 1: sort of this feeling that I've had inside of myself,
Speaker 1: which no one has told me, but this feeling of
Speaker 1: like I just gotta shut up and take it. And
Speaker 1: I'm not built like that. Neither should you be. No
Speaker 1: one should have to just shut up and take racism.
Speaker 1: I agree with that, especially Install Wars guys, Like, what
Speaker 1: is this? What is this you racist. Installed Like from
Speaker 1: the very beginning, this has been a series when no
Speaker 1: one thinks twice if Harrison Ford is best friends with
Speaker 1: a giant dog bear, or if a brother and sister
Speaker 1: want to smash, no one complains about that they're not
Speaker 1: getting death threats. I'm so tired of fans attacking black
Speaker 1: people in Star Wars when there are so many other
Speaker 1: racism species they could begging to big it's it against
Speaker 1: think about it. You could hate everyone going to rant
Speaker 1: about the creepy twilex, you know, or the greedy jawas.
Speaker 1: There's so many more opportunities for racism than just black people.
Speaker 1: Mix it up, brought in your horizons, you know, or
Speaker 1: is the e woke saying, you know, I gotta think
Speaker 1: bigger where it is. Just get out there and you know,
Speaker 1: it's really great that even McGregor made a video supporting
Speaker 1: his co star. But I think Star Wars needs to
Speaker 1: come back even harder at the racist really make them suffer.
Speaker 1: You should give Princess Leiah and your black boyfriend. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's right, it's gonna be a dope scene. It's gonna
Speaker 1: come back in and be like a Yo, Laiah, I
Speaker 1: got the plans for the death stop we don't tonight.
Speaker 1: All right, Finally, let's talk about families. You know, one
Speaker 1: of the best parts about having a family is that
Speaker 1: you have people to blame in therapy for why you
Speaker 1: haven't succeeded in life. And and also you have people
Speaker 1: who will continue your lineage deep into the plastic bag
Speaker 1: global warming apocalypse. Now, there are a few cultures who
Speaker 1: take family more serious lee than Indian people, but as
Speaker 1: this next story shows, some of them might be taking
Speaker 1: it a little too seriously. Pilots take a quick peek
Speaker 1: at what's trending right now. An unusual lawsuit in India,
Speaker 1: parents are suing their only son for not giving them
Speaker 1: a grandchild. Sadiv and Sadaya Passad say that they've done
Speaker 1: their part. They paid for their son's pilot training, a
Speaker 1: lavish wedding and even a honeymoon. And they say that
Speaker 1: they've waited six years for a grandchild and now they
Speaker 1: have filed a lawsuit saying that if their son and
Speaker 1: daughter in law don't give them a grandchild within a year,
Speaker 1: they owe the parents fifty million rupees, which is equivalent
Speaker 1: to six hundred and seventy five thousand dollars. Damn, damn,
Speaker 1: this is wild. They're suing their son for not giving
Speaker 1: them a grandchild. Being parents is so weird. You spend
Speaker 1: the first eighteen years doing everything you can to stop
Speaker 1: your kids from having sex, and then as soon as
Speaker 1: they grow up, you turned into fret bros. You know,
Speaker 1: you gotta get laid, dude, and don't use a condom either.
Speaker 1: That ships for losers. Just do it. Do it now.
Speaker 1: As weird as it is, part of me sees where
Speaker 1: these parents are coming from, though, I mean, the only
Speaker 1: reason you have kids is so that you can get grandchildren. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's be honest. Nobody wants to be a parent, you know,
Speaker 1: it's just what you have to do to become a grandparents.
Speaker 1: The name is in it. It's grand it's better. And
Speaker 1: also grandkids and grandparents on the same page. Of course,
Speaker 1: grandparents want to be grandparents. You know, they're the same thing.
Speaker 1: They both loved telling long and pointless stories. They have
Speaker 1: so many of the same life experiences, and she's like, hey, Grandpa,
Speaker 1: I walked it into park and I saw a puppy
Speaker 1: and I popped it in my pants. Like wow, same here, kid.
Speaker 1: Oh but look, if these parents really want grandkids. I
Speaker 1: don't know if the lawsuits it's really gonna help make
Speaker 1: that happen, especially with like a year You've given them
Speaker 1: a year you're in as every time now their son
Speaker 1: has sex, he's thinking about his parents. They did this,
Speaker 1: not me, And that lawsuit is definitely going to help
Speaker 1: his dirty talk. Can you imagine this poor Indian guys
Speaker 1: gonna be in his bedroom He's just like, do you
Speaker 1: like that? Dude? Like that? You're like the way I'm
Speaker 1: trying to avoid paying six seventy five dollars to my parents.
Speaker 1: This is a fifty million rupee pump right here? Fifty
Speaker 1: million rupee? How would you do that? All right, that's
Speaker 1: here for the headlines. But before we go, let's check
Speaker 1: in on traffic without very own Royal Jr. Everybody, why
Speaker 1: are you doing? What's going on? What is happening in
Speaker 1: the traffic? Man? You know, I'm like a pigeon at
Speaker 1: the bakery, just trying to get his bread up. It
Speaker 1: is what it is. A quick look at the roads now,
Speaker 1: as you can see the northbound seven seventy starting to
Speaker 1: clear up. We had a little bit of a disruption
Speaker 1: a little bit earlier. Tractor trail over turn some ONQUI
Speaker 1: you actual you're doing the traffic. Yeah. Yeah, they're going
Speaker 1: to therapy, man, And I think it like she told
Speaker 1: me to be a vessel of positivity to people within
Speaker 1: my circle and the karma would be reciprocal. So you know,
Speaker 1: I've come out here before and we go back and
Speaker 1: forth and you never want to do I say, do
Speaker 1: the traveling. Then you're like not, like then you want
Speaker 1: to talk about like the things I'm talking about. But
Speaker 1: this is great. You're doing that now. Yeah, therapy, Yeah
Speaker 1: this man, look at this is growth. Really glad you're
Speaker 1: not jumping in. Let's what's the traffic about Ukraine? Real quick?
Speaker 1: Let me just say something, just just real quick about Ukraine.
Speaker 1: This is the rush of thing. Like I know, we're
Speaker 1: sending Ukraine the weapons and we're sending money. But the issue,
Speaker 1: brow is that that ain't what the Russians respect. We
Speaker 1: gotta get their respect. We gotta get the respect of
Speaker 1: the Russians and the only thing some people own to
Speaker 1: respect crazy, so you'll be crazy. It ain't enough just
Speaker 1: to send him a rocket. The United States got to
Speaker 1: go over there and just buck a couple of shots
Speaker 1: in the air just to let them. Know what we
Speaker 1: could do if we wanted to just just a cup
Speaker 1: to shoot a couple of rockets and business in the air,
Speaker 1: and then they'd be like, all right, they're crazy, let's leave.
Speaker 1: Because that's that's that's how you handle stuff in the streets. Man.
Speaker 1: You put your tin toes on the ground, and that's
Speaker 1: what you do in the streets. I'm sorry, what what
Speaker 1: streets are these that you're talking about? Like North Korea?
Speaker 1: Like North Korea? Right, what don't do that we be
Speaker 1: does anybody ran up in North Korea? And nobody ran
Speaker 1: up in North Korea? Nobody is every two three months
Speaker 1: North Korea they shoot a rocket up in the air
Speaker 1: for no reason. That's what you got to do, dog,
Speaker 1: that's the streets, man. It's like boys in the hood.
Speaker 1: Did you ever see boys in the hood. It's that's
Speaker 1: what the Russian Ukraine. That's what the United States got
Speaker 1: to be. We gotta be like ice like you remember
Speaker 1: boys in the Hood. Ricky got bumped into by the
Speaker 1: game bangers, and the game banger is getting ready to
Speaker 1: beat up Ricky, and the ice cube stepped up like
Speaker 1: we got a problem, Holk, We got a problem, milk.
Speaker 1: That's what America would be a missile, would be a
Speaker 1: missile right here on. You got a problem with you
Speaker 1: gonna do? And then Russia be like, all right, let's
Speaker 1: go on back and drink some vodka. That's how everything.
Speaker 1: That's a that's a novel way to solve, all right.
Speaker 1: So so so what's happening in the traffic their them?
Speaker 1: Kids should counter sue their parents. They get, but they
Speaker 1: should count. How are you gonna sue me for not
Speaker 1: having a kid. I should be able if you can
Speaker 1: sue me for not having a kid, I should be
Speaker 1: able to sue you for having a kid. I didn't
Speaker 1: consent to being conceived, therefore I want some money. I
Speaker 1: just don't think that's right. And then that behavior from
Speaker 1: their parents anyway, that comes from parents who ain't scared
Speaker 1: of their kids. You're you're at a certain point your
Speaker 1: parents supposed to be scary. Yeah, yeah, you're stronger, you're faster.
Speaker 1: Your parents can't be behaving like that. That's the hapey.
Speaker 1: The time I go back to Alabama, I go home
Speaker 1: visit my mama. I turned home one of the murder
Speaker 1: forensic shows where they killed their parents, and then I
Speaker 1: just look at them just to let her know I
Speaker 1: got some ideas up along. I'm gonna scold me into
Speaker 1: having a child. You're gonna scold me into having a child.
Speaker 1: Scolding don't work. Everybody knows the scolding don't work. It's
Speaker 1: liking boys in the hood. You can see boys in
Speaker 1: the hood with dope boys. Mama scolding him. She said,
Speaker 1: don't you go to that store and go stealing some
Speaker 1: stuff from what dope boy? Do end up dead? Two
Speaker 1: weeks after Rickett? We we have the time left, we
Speaker 1: even we we don't we don't we have the time
Speaker 1: and then I mean we basically watched the Boys in
Speaker 1: the Hood. But you know what, I'm glad. I'm glad
Speaker 1: you've been going to therapy. That's been helping, right, would
Speaker 1: you know everybody thank you thinking do I appreciate all? Right?
Speaker 1: When we come back, sending the christ Murphy's joinning off
Speaker 1: for the show. You don't want to mix clip. Welcome
Speaker 1: up to the Danny Shart. My first guest is Senator
Speaker 1: Chris Murphy of Connecticut. He represented Newtown when the Sandy
Speaker 1: Hook Elementary School massacre occurred a decade ago, and following
Speaker 1: the devastating school shooting in Uvaldi Texas. He begged his
Speaker 1: colleagues to act. Why do you go through all the
Speaker 1: hassle of getting this job, of putting yourself in a
Speaker 1: position of authority If your answer is that as this
Speaker 1: slaughter increases, as our kids run for their lives, we
Speaker 1: do nothing, What are we doing? Why are you here
Speaker 1: if not to solve a problem as existential as this?
Speaker 1: Joining us live now from Hartford, Connecticut, Please welcome Senda
Speaker 1: christ Murphy's in the day, Sandra Murphy. It it must
Speaker 1: feel at some point like you you are, you know,
Speaker 1: going up against an immovable force. It must feel at
Speaker 1: some point like you're engaging in a conversation that seems
Speaker 1: to go around and around in circles. But it seems
Speaker 1: like in and around this time there is some movement.
Speaker 1: There are some Republicans who have said, you know what,
Speaker 1: maybe there is something we should be doing, even if
Speaker 1: it is not the perfect solution. Let's let's jump straight
Speaker 1: into that and talk about what you've seen in terms
Speaker 1: of a bypasses and move to change what gun safety
Speaker 1: should be in America. Well, Trevor, thanks for having me on.
Speaker 1: And it does feel, um often like deja vu repeating itself.
Speaker 1: Um ten years I've been at this, um, the American
Speaker 1: public has made up their mind. There's nothing in this
Speaker 1: country that's as popular as changing the gun laws to
Speaker 1: make our kids safer. Of Americans support things like making
Speaker 1: sure that everybody has to go through a background check
Speaker 1: before they buy a gun, but we run up against
Speaker 1: this brick wall, which is the power of the gun
Speaker 1: industry in the gun lobby. But you're right, it does
Speaker 1: feel different this time. UM. I just got off the
Speaker 1: phone off a zoom call with about uh ten or
Speaker 1: twelve Republicans and Democrats that are trying to pass something
Speaker 1: that will save lives, not do everything, but try to
Speaker 1: break this log jam. And I think it's because of
Speaker 1: the very unique, cataclysmic nature of this last mass shooting,
Speaker 1: but also because over the last ten years, you know,
Speaker 1: we've built an anti gun violence movement that is powerful,
Speaker 1: that has just as many members and just as much
Speaker 1: money as the n R and the gun lobby has,
Speaker 1: and that has started to have an impact. So I
Speaker 1: don't know whether this is going to succeed. I've been,
Speaker 1: you know, Charlie Brown kicking a football that gets pulled
Speaker 1: out from under me over and over again enough times
Speaker 1: to know that maybe this won't turn out differently, but um,
Speaker 1: I owe it to the families in Texas, the families
Speaker 1: in my state, in Sandy Hook, to give it a try.
Speaker 1: What seems to be the hold up? What are some
Speaker 1: of the internal conversations that you're having, you know, without
Speaker 1: betraying anybody's us, what are the sticking points? Because if
Speaker 1: if so many Americans, if such a large percentage is
Speaker 1: in support of many of these common sense measures, why
Speaker 1: then do their representatives not seem able to put those
Speaker 1: things into effect? Well right now, this is a problem
Speaker 1: only inside the Republican Party. Every single Democrat in the
Speaker 1: Senate would support things like expanded background checks, and and
Speaker 1: the reason that there's a problem in the Republican Party
Speaker 1: is that, um, to win a Republican primary today, a
Speaker 1: lot of my colleagues think that you need the endorsement
Speaker 1: of the gun lobby, not not just because of the
Speaker 1: money that comes from groups like the n r A,
Speaker 1: but because, um, you know, associating yourself with the gun
Speaker 1: industry has become kind of a proxy for a broader
Speaker 1: set of conservative values. And so we've got to solve
Speaker 1: that problem for Republicans. We've got to find another way
Speaker 1: for them to demonstrate how conservative they are without having
Speaker 1: to do the bidding of a of an industry that
Speaker 1: is supported by only ten percent of their constituents. But
Speaker 1: that's starting to change because now a lot of Republicans
Speaker 1: are starting to see if they vote for things, um,
Speaker 1: you know, like restrictions on assault weapons, they actually we
Speaker 1: rewarded by larger numbers of their constituents than ever before
Speaker 1: that support these things. So I think the political calculations
Speaker 1: of some of my colleagues are beginning to change, but
Speaker 1: it's slow. You know, for decades they were told you
Speaker 1: can never ever beat the gun lobby in an election.
Speaker 1: That's not true anymore, but it takes a little while
Speaker 1: for that lesson to be learned. Let's talk about some
Speaker 1: of the concrete steps then you're looking to take. You know,
Speaker 1: every mass shooting in America is followed very promptly by
Speaker 1: people saying, this wouldn't be solved by that solution. This
Speaker 1: solution wouldn't solve that problem, and it becomes a chicken
Speaker 1: and the egg scenario that never seems to end. What
Speaker 1: are some of the concrete measures that you can take
Speaker 1: now to change some of the gun laws in America
Speaker 1: to make the country safer at least, if not perfect. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I think it's really important to remember that there's
Speaker 1: a mass slaughter in this country every single day. I
Speaker 1: get it, there's good reason why this country has more
Speaker 1: attention after UM a catastrophe like Evaldi, But there's a
Speaker 1: hundred and ten twenty people every single day who died
Speaker 1: from guns. And in fact, since you've Aaldi, there's been
Speaker 1: eighteen mass shootings in the United States. Now it was
Speaker 1: four people, ten people, twelve people, not enough to get
Speaker 1: the headlines, but there's a crisis every single day. What
Speaker 1: are we talking about? Red flag laws? These are the
Speaker 1: laws that allow you to take guns away temporarily from
Speaker 1: kids like this guy. And you've Aldi, who is showing
Speaker 1: signs of doing something disastrous. We're talking about strengthening our
Speaker 1: background check system. We're not gonna get all the way
Speaker 1: to universal background checks, but making sure that more gun
Speaker 1: sales come with these background checks. UM. We're talking about
Speaker 1: UM money for community anti violence initiatives, trying to wrap
Speaker 1: services around at risk kids, especially in our cities UM
Speaker 1: where poverty also often leads to violence. UM that could
Speaker 1: make a big impact as well. So it's not everything.
Speaker 1: I want, but it would be the most significant set
Speaker 1: of gun reforms in really thirty years, and we're closer
Speaker 1: than ever to getting it done. There are many, UM
Speaker 1: people who voted for Democrats who I think would sometimes
Speaker 1: look enviously at what Republicans are able to do despite
Speaker 1: despite you know, their setbacks. You know, we've seen what
Speaker 1: Mitch McConnell has been able to do with the Supreme Court.
Speaker 1: We've seen what Republicans have been able to do with
Speaker 1: abortion and restricting it around the country. UM, do do
Speaker 1: you ever consider these options? Do you ever think to yourself, oh, man,
Speaker 1: we should also be looking at ways to use the
Speaker 1: tools and the mechanisms that are present to us in
Speaker 1: America to get something done, or or is there a
Speaker 1: reason that you don't take that approach? Well, right now,
Speaker 1: we have a majority in the House the Senate that
Speaker 1: support expanding background checks to every gun snale, which would
Speaker 1: probably save the most lives. We were president, who will
Speaker 1: sign that bill. The problem is the rules of the
Speaker 1: Senate right now require you to get sixty votes, not
Speaker 1: fifty votes, in order to pass a bill like that.
Speaker 1: So for the American people, it's frustrating, right because they
Speaker 1: did their job, they put majorities in the House, the Senate,
Speaker 1: President of the White House to support where they support
Speaker 1: expanded protections when it comes to our nation's kids in
Speaker 1: the safety of our communities. But the rules of the
Speaker 1: Senate stand in the way now. When Mitch McConnell wanted
Speaker 1: to get conservatives on the Supreme Court to outlaw abortion,
Speaker 1: he changed the rules of the Senate. But right now
Speaker 1: we are a few votes shy in the Democratic Caucus
Speaker 1: of changing the rules now that we're in charge. So yes,
Speaker 1: I don't think we should deliberately adopt the policies of
Speaker 1: Mitch McConnell. But I do think that when we have power, um,
Speaker 1: you know, when the voters have given us power, we
Speaker 1: should listen to them, um, and do what the majority
Speaker 1: of Americans want us to do. Well, I'm sure most
Speaker 1: Americans would hope, in fact, Old that you're not Charlie Brown.
Speaker 1: This time the bull doesn't get taken away and something
Speaker 1: actually gets done. Thank you so much for taking the
Speaker 1: time to join us, and we hope to see you again. Thanks,
Speaker 1: We'll be right back. Welcome back to the Jay Show.
Speaker 1: My next guest tonight. As an award winning bestselling author,
Speaker 1: They're here to talk about their new novel You Made
Speaker 1: a Full of Death with Your Beauty, and their memoir
Speaker 1: Dear Center On which will be available soon in paperback.
Speaker 1: Please welcome our Quirkermazy, our quirk here Emazy, Welcome to
Speaker 1: the Daily Show. Thank you for having me. I feel
Speaker 1: like I've met you before. It's so weird. We have
Speaker 1: like this energy between us. It's it's there's something about it. Um,
Speaker 1: I shouldn't just welcome you the dish. I should also
Speaker 1: say congratulations on being not just one of the most
Speaker 1: prolific rights is, but one of the most celebrated for
Speaker 1: lific rights. As you have written four books in how
Speaker 1: many years? Now? Seven books in four years? Actually, all right,
Speaker 1: she I was counting four because I knew in the panic,
Speaker 1: how many in the pandemic alone in the pandemic. About
Speaker 1: in the pandemic, it was four because I remember going like,
Speaker 1: I've like looked at everyone who worked in the pandemic
Speaker 1: and how much work they did, And it was four
Speaker 1: books just in the pandemic. Right. Everyone else is like
Speaker 1: we're making bread, and You're like, I'm gonna make best
Speaker 1: selling books. Um, I would love to know how you
Speaker 1: switched so seamlessly between genres because you you aren't celebrated
Speaker 1: in one. You know, people love your poetry, people have
Speaker 1: fallen in love with your memoir. And then now you've
Speaker 1: switched into the world of novels, which everyone was shocked
Speaker 1: by because they were like, why, why would you do this?
Speaker 1: It's trash romance novels. Yes, people like no romances trash,
Speaker 1: And now you've written and people like, maybe maybe it's
Speaker 1: not trash, maybe it's a I'd love to know how
Speaker 1: you switched so seamlessly. I think it's because I'm a
Speaker 1: reader of every genre. So I started reading romance novels
Speaker 1: when I was a kid growing up in Nigeria, and
Speaker 1: it would smuggle them to school because they were banned
Speaker 1: for being vulgar and inappropriate. And they were like the Harlequin,
Speaker 1: the Mills and Boons, romance like Fabio under Cover. When
Speaker 1: you were a friend of those, yes, I mean I
Speaker 1: was okay, and I really got into them as a kid.
Speaker 1: I think there's something in there about like being young
Speaker 1: and exploring your own sexuality. Um. And then I came
Speaker 1: to the States when I was sixteen for college, and
Speaker 1: I discovered paranormal romance and I was like, Oh, my goodness,
Speaker 1: shape shifter, this that's hilarious. And then I took a
Speaker 1: break from it. But I came back around, like in
Speaker 1: the last couple of years, and I found like the
Speaker 1: romance that was being written now was so different from
Speaker 1: what I grew up on, and it had like so
Speaker 1: much representation in it, and it had so much hope
Speaker 1: in it. You know, you could read these love stories
Speaker 1: about people that society considers deviants, whether it's just because
Speaker 1: you're black, or you're queer, or you're new divergence or
Speaker 1: you're in a wheelchair, and they get happily ever after this,
Speaker 1: and I was like, there's a little magic in that,
Speaker 1: like a little magic of hope. I think that's what
Speaker 1: people love about your work is that it has shifted
Speaker 1: the ideas of what is quote unquote the norm and
Speaker 1: just told stories through multiple different lenses. You know. I'll
Speaker 1: start with with your memoir. The style that you wrote
Speaker 1: it in is really interesting because it's a series of
Speaker 1: letters to people and it takes us through a journey
Speaker 1: of of of your life. Why did you choose to
Speaker 1: do it in that way? Why didn't you choose to
Speaker 1: address the book to the reader and rather let us
Speaker 1: in on a world where we almost become voyers of
Speaker 1: your relationships. Well, so the secret is I hate writing
Speaker 1: essays because you have to be like so serious about
Speaker 1: them and you have to do research and things like that.
Speaker 1: And I just wanted to write a book that felt
Speaker 1: like the conversations I have with my friends. I think like,
Speaker 1: these are the spaces in which you're really honest because
Speaker 1: it's intimate, because you're speaking without a filter, you're not
Speaker 1: worried about you know how some random reader is going
Speaker 1: to take it, and it strips down that artifice. It's
Speaker 1: straight down that wall. It's a different kind of vulnerability.
Speaker 1: And also in writing and letters, it's like a citational
Speaker 1: practice for me, I think in terms of community, like
Speaker 1: all the ideas I have, the stories I tell, I
Speaker 1: tell them with my friends, I tell them with other people,
Speaker 1: and so to write the letters, it was a way
Speaker 1: of showing the world like, these are the people I
Speaker 1: think with, even if it's not people that I know personally,
Speaker 1: people who I engage with their work, These are the
Speaker 1: people I'm thinking with. These are the people I'm building
Speaker 1: worlds with, and I wanted them to be recognized as well.
Speaker 1: It's it's a beautiful journey. And then to switch from,
Speaker 1: you know, from one style of book to the other.
Speaker 1: You made a full of death with your Beauty has
Speaker 1: has just gotten everybody buzzing. And Michael B. Jordan is
Speaker 1: going to be making the film version of the book,
Speaker 1: the film adaptation. You're going to be an executive producer
Speaker 1: on it. Yes, it's a really beautiful story. Before we
Speaker 1: get into that, I'd love to know why you chose
Speaker 1: not to write the screenplay, because you are a writer,
Speaker 1: why why not do that part of it as well?
Speaker 1: I have too many books to write now, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? I mean, I guess, But also I
Speaker 1: think for black people working in Hollywood, like in film
Speaker 1: and TV, it's a different style of writing. Like I
Speaker 1: was executive producer on in developments for my first book, Freshwater,
Speaker 1: and we were working with exts and we're in development
Speaker 1: for like three years, and I was like, oh, this
Speaker 1: is very different from writing books because in books, you
Speaker 1: can do whatever you want and no one's going to
Speaker 1: stop you. Your editor can say, well I want you
Speaker 1: to change, and so you can be like no and
Speaker 1: nothing happens. But in TV um you kind of have
Speaker 1: to listen to the people who are giving you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they don't play that game. It's not going to work. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I wanted to hand it over to people who actually
Speaker 1: do work in that field and kind of know how
Speaker 1: to collaborate a little bit better. Okay, so they'd like
Speaker 1: the conduit between yourself and the TV. Okay, I get that.
Speaker 1: The story is a really beautiful, painful look at not
Speaker 1: just love. Because you know, when I heard it was
Speaker 1: going to be a romance models like, well, this is
Speaker 1: going to be interesting, and it's it's more than like
Speaker 1: a romance model in the way novel, in the way
Speaker 1: we think of it. It's a it's a story about grief. Really,
Speaker 1: you know, we we followed the story of Faie in
Speaker 1: the book, who's a woman who's lost her partner and
Speaker 1: she's she's in this world where it's she's grief. What
Speaker 1: is the point of life? Almost is what we're experiencing
Speaker 1: in the book. And then we see her fall in
Speaker 1: love with somebody. I won't spoil all of it, but
Speaker 1: that person is tied through her through grief. I'd love
Speaker 1: to know how that became a theme for a romance novel.
Speaker 1: You wouldn't think that death and grief would be something
Speaker 1: that you'd want to put in a book about love.
Speaker 1: It's snuck in, you know. Initially I was like, this
Speaker 1: is going to be a fluffy book. It's just going
Speaker 1: to be messy, hot girl summer. And then I met
Speaker 1: the character and she was like, I have depths that
Speaker 1: you can only dream of. And when I started writing it,
Speaker 1: it felt it felt fitting because I think there's so
Speaker 1: much grief in the world we're living in now. There's
Speaker 1: so much of it, and so many people are trying
Speaker 1: to figure out this question of how do I keep
Speaker 1: living throughout it? In some ways it feels sacrilegious almost,
Speaker 1: it feels wrong. It feels like Survivors gives su Like
Speaker 1: there's so many people who are suffering and you're here
Speaker 1: having a hot girl summer, and how do you balance
Speaker 1: all of that? Um So in the book, I wanted
Speaker 1: to write about this woman who's exploring that and figuring
Speaker 1: it out, because at some point we do have to
Speaker 1: find a way to live. And so she's like chasing life.
Speaker 1: She's chasing joy and she's chasing happiness, and she's making
Speaker 1: a lot of messy choices along the way. But I
Speaker 1: think that's that's part and parcel of it, you know,
Speaker 1: with grief, the world doesn't stop. And that's something I
Speaker 1: wrote about, like in my memoir It's it seems wrong
Speaker 1: the way that one world can stop when you lose
Speaker 1: someone and the rest of the world just keeps going
Speaker 1: like it doesn't It doesn't matter that your world just stopped,
Speaker 1: and at some point you have to figure out how
Speaker 1: to blend back into it. Yeah, how you get back
Speaker 1: into the highway of life that's just moving along. The
Speaker 1: main character in the book is also an artist, and
Speaker 1: I feel like that was inspired a little bit by
Speaker 1: by your world, because I know you are. I mean,
Speaker 1: an artist almost doesn't describe it because you you you
Speaker 1: like everything. You know, it's video arts and it's pictures,
Speaker 1: and it's it's it's it's every But her style of
Speaker 1: art is very particular because she works with you know,
Speaker 1: and I've seen some of the images. It's it's blood,
Speaker 1: you know, which feels very morbid. I wanted to know
Speaker 1: how you got into art that involves like portraits of
Speaker 1: people with there's a lot of blood in the image,
Speaker 1: but it's not sad somehow, what what what is the
Speaker 1: message you're trying to convey and what connected you to
Speaker 1: that oft form. You know, for me, it's always something spiritual.
Speaker 1: Like one of the things I tried to do, and
Speaker 1: that was why I also wrote the memoir to where
Speaker 1: I wrote it is to figure out how to move
Speaker 1: spirit first in a world that's always asking you to
Speaker 1: translate it into something that's more legible to you know,
Speaker 1: the mainstream or to the lay person. And I find
Speaker 1: that with blood, there's something so visceral about it where
Speaker 1: you can't you can't mask it. You look at it
Speaker 1: and it's exactly what it appears to be. It's jarring
Speaker 1: in that sense, and it's such a big part of rituals,
Speaker 1: especially for indigenous like African faith traditions. It's such a
Speaker 1: big part of rituals. So with my work, a lot
Speaker 1: of times what I'm doing is I'm career eating these
Speaker 1: self portraits. I'm recreating rituals. I'm trying to find a
Speaker 1: way to like connect back to all these ways of
Speaker 1: being like before we were colonized and you know, our
Speaker 1: whole cultures were stripped from right. It really is an
Speaker 1: interesting journey and it's it's fun to see you playing
Speaker 1: with that in the book and the journey that she's
Speaker 1: on and you know, going into the Caribbean, and I'll
Speaker 1: tell you all about you guys are just gonna have
Speaker 1: to read. But I don't want to tell you the the
Speaker 1: book because I see you guys now like tell us more, Tre,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna tell you anymore. Thank you for joining
Speaker 1: me on the show. Congratulations on yet another critically acclaimed book,
Speaker 1: and I hope to see you again on the show.
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you so much. Thanks us. You made
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