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Speaker 1: Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that.

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Speaker 1: It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. Hey, guys,

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Speaker 1: welcome back to the break. Um, I have Nick, Dave

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Speaker 1: and then here's me. But we'll wait. We're still waiting

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Speaker 1: on Derek. He will well, he's supposed to come over

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Speaker 1: here in a little bit. So well, when you're a

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Speaker 1: vice president, you know, stuff happens. You got into the

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Speaker 1: intro quickly and not a whole lot a rigamar roll.

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Speaker 1: I like it. I'm ready for it. Episode Nope, no,

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Speaker 1: so too. Okay. Used to be Greg's airline, but it

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Speaker 1: isn't anymore and it won't be. Well, wait, way to go,

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Speaker 1: that's true. Let's move on. We're in here. Let's go.

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Speaker 1: We're in here. Well, a lot has happened since the

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Speaker 1: last time we did the show. We have Steven Jones,

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Speaker 1: owner's meeting, Dave, you just came back from the trip,

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Speaker 1: So a lot of different subjects, but I wanted to

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Speaker 1: start off with real quick because I am fed up

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Speaker 1: with the subject and I'm ready to move on. No,

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Speaker 1: it's nothing major, Okay, Brandy Gregory, Amari Cooper. This is

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Speaker 1: the first time we kind of hear comments from them. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so just wanted to ask you, guys, is there anything

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Speaker 1: I'm glad you said that, because that's I think that's

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Speaker 1: what it is. Is these the lines have been drawn

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Speaker 1: to everybody in the Cowboys front office, I mean that's

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Speaker 1: the line. The spin if you, if you're a more

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Speaker 1: the savings from those two players and invested it in

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Speaker 1: a bunch of other guys. And I think the counter

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Speaker 1: to that is, yeah, but who are they as good

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Speaker 1: it's almost not worth arguing about until we start playing

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Speaker 1: games and we'll have we'll have some some bodies of

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Speaker 1: what the Cowboys do. Yeah, let me ask you this, Nick,

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Speaker 1: going back to what Dave just said and about you know,

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Speaker 1: Jones guy criticized a lot on social media by a

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Speaker 1: this case. Yes. And that's how the Cowboys for an

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Speaker 1: And Fowler's deals worth like three million dollars. That's that's

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Speaker 1: they could definitely have kept them, right, they didn't want to.

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Speaker 1: real problem with Tyler beiottish was when he was facing

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Speaker 1: he is a good player. He is a good player,

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Speaker 1: But I mean Travis Frederick was picked thirty one. You

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Speaker 1: I mean, like I don't know, Like Kenyan Green did

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Speaker 1: I just don't see that as big of a problem

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Speaker 1: draft him next year. That's what I got one this year,

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Speaker 1: or at wide receiver. Yeah, but that's not what I said.

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Speaker 1: at how it's gonna look week one this year, and

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Speaker 1: Schultz is gonna be gone next year or Zeke's gonna

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Speaker 1: be gone. You know, they're they're already doing that, so

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Speaker 1: they have to draft that way. When we kind of

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Speaker 1: look at it from a depth chart standpoint like this

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Speaker 1: plugs in here here, I'll worry about next year next

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Speaker 1: year and they don't do Are we sure they're not

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Speaker 1: going to do a long term bual Schultz? No, we're

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Speaker 1: not sure about that, but they're not sure that they are.

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Speaker 1: I mean, what did Steven's answer yesterday when you were there.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't bank on it. I mean not saying that

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Speaker 1: they won't. I just I don't. It's not like Dak

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Speaker 1: where you're like it's getting done. Don't stress out about

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Speaker 1: priority for them. We'll see what happens. I don't. It

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Speaker 1: depends on what he's willing to settle for what the

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Speaker 1: money looks like. He needs to take his game up

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Speaker 1: a little more too. He's got good stats. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the owners are going to take him because he's getting

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Speaker 1: drafted and I mean he's getting I'm sorry, he's getting

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Speaker 1: catches and he's getting you know, touchdowns, and but but

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Speaker 1: he's got to get above that nine point, you know,

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Speaker 1: nine yard average. He's got to be a little bit

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Speaker 1: more of dynamic cats the ball, getting up the field

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Speaker 1: and do some things. He does it some, but but

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Speaker 1: I think he needs to be more that guy, not

449
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Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey, but be a poor man's Travis Kelsey. I

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Speaker 1: want to go back to what I said about Green

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Speaker 1: real quick, because I don't want anybody to misinterpret me.

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Speaker 1: He is a good player, and drafting him at twenty

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Speaker 1: four would be good. H The reason I gritted my

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Speaker 1: teeth is because I think there's a high likelihood that

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Speaker 1: a better player will be there, and you that's no

456
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Speaker 1: a better football player. Jamison Williams or Traylan Burkes could

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Speaker 1: be sitting there at the question. Derek Stingley could be

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Speaker 1: sitting there. Shoot, with all the smoke we're hearing right now,

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Speaker 1: Kyle Hamilton, who people say is one of the best

460
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Speaker 1: safety prospects of the last decade, could slip. Why would help?

461
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Speaker 1: Because his measurables don't match up with what you want

462
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Speaker 1: from a guy that you're taking where people think he's

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Speaker 1: going to be taking. His film's fantastic. Give me that,

464
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Speaker 1: I could give me that guy, I don't care. Point.

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Speaker 1: The point is there are like eight prospects and and

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Speaker 1: and by the way, none of the guys at the

467
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Speaker 1: top of this draft compared to like last year. I mean,

468
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Speaker 1: you know that this ain't that. But there's like eight

469
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Speaker 1: prospects that everyone feels pretty confident are gonna go at

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Speaker 1: the top of the draft, and they're mostly tackles and

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Speaker 1: edge rushers, offensive defensive tackles, offensive offense. And then after

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Speaker 1: I don't think it'll happen, Derek. That's very uncommon, Like

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Speaker 1: I don't remember. I don't remember a draft like this

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Speaker 1: where there aren't court First of all, there aren't any

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks to like anchor the top of the draft. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And then yeah, like everybody's got a different opinion about everything. Um,

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Speaker 1: And it's funny because the top ten is like as

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Speaker 1: unsexy as it's ever been. But then eleven through forty

481
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Speaker 1: is like, he's good, he's good, he's good, he's good.

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Speaker 1: And so and that's why, like it's borderline alarming that

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Speaker 1: they haven't signed a guard because I'm like, don't do this, Like,

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Speaker 1: don't don't pencil yourself into drafting Kenyan Green because you

485
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Speaker 1: have to when George Karloftis could fall to you at

486
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Speaker 1: twenty four and now that's a that's a guy that

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Speaker 1: just something to think about. Yeah, we do need to

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Speaker 1: welcome back guys. So blah blah blah too talked about

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Speaker 1: it already. It's episode two. It is episode two that's

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Speaker 1: really easy for you, which means number two is also

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Speaker 1: going to be a number that probably a lot of

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Speaker 1: players will want to get if they haven't already it's two.

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Speaker 1: Does two elicit that from players? Like? Does anybody want to?

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Speaker 1: I think so? I mean, yeah, I've heard school Helvin

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Speaker 1: Joseph told me at Media Day last year, I want

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Speaker 1: that deuce. Okay, he was talking about Jersey number. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I was talking about Jersey. Otherwise I didn't go get it.

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Speaker 1: Whatever he wants it, right, Yeah, Two's cool. I just

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Speaker 1: you know, I think of like one and seven too cool.

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Speaker 1: Looks cool. I like to. I think it looks good

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Speaker 1: on Jersey. Yeah. I think that was my number when

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Speaker 1: I hurt myself playing the flag football. Number two. I

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Speaker 1: got a Brooks. All right, well, let's talk about free agency.

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Speaker 1: What's left the free agency and some of the guys

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Speaker 1: that are still available. McCarthy's comment didn't sit well with me,

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Speaker 1: to be honest, but um, we don't have to comment

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Speaker 1: on that. It's ok. You should stop him the next

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Speaker 1: time he's walking through our area and be like we

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Speaker 1: talk Wait which one? What did he say that made

568
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Speaker 1: you mad? No? No, no, not mad. It's just annoyed,

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Speaker 1: just hearing when you know, oh they're being patient and

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Speaker 1: they're way oh yeah, that type of thing. Yeah, type

571
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Speaker 1: of mentality. Um, but uh, well, I guess we'll see

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Speaker 1: how he does play out for them. But as far

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Speaker 1: as some of the guys that are still available, I

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Speaker 1: wanted to ask you, guys, are there any names that

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Speaker 1: you are still thinking as a possibility for the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: or maybe uh someone that he might that you guys

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Speaker 1: personally would like them to bring, and also comment on

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Speaker 1: what happened with the whole Bobby Wagner's situation and why

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Speaker 1: it's kind of Stephen Jones kind of closed down the

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Speaker 1: door on that. Basically, well, you see, Bobby Wagner's really

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Speaker 1: really good at football and commands a salary as such,

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Speaker 1: and I think that's I thought it was kind of

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Speaker 1: funny the way Steven worded it. He was like, you know,

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Speaker 1: I just didn't work out with us, and I was like,

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Speaker 1: he signed somewhere already. Literally, I like, I like, you know,

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Speaker 1: you're sitting there, You're holding your recorder kind of looking

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Speaker 1: at your phone, and like I'm simultaneously like googling, like

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Speaker 1: did Bobby Wagner sign? And I miss it? Yeah, like

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Speaker 1: I did. And I was like, I was like I

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Speaker 1: looked it out and I'm like, Nope, he sure hasn't.

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Speaker 1: Steven just knows he ain't bringing his price down to

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Speaker 1: whether the Cowboys are willing to pay right. Um, that's all.

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Speaker 1: That's it. But we all knew this. I mean when

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Speaker 1: he became available, first thing we all do is probably

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Speaker 1: like could it be? And then we all thought to ourselves, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's not the kind of fru You know what though, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to give anybody false hope about Bobby Wagner.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's happening. But that ties back into

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Speaker 1: the Mike McCarthy thing about being patient, and he brought

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Speaker 1: out he brought up Andy Dalton as an example of

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Speaker 1: like this stuff evolves, Like even now, the market is

602
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 1: still going to evolve. Andy Dalton signed in Dallas after

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Speaker 1: the draft once he had seen like who still needs

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Speaker 1: a quarterback? Because that changed during the draft. Other stuff

605
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Speaker 1: will change, like they might wait to do some of this. Honestly,

606
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Speaker 1: I gotta be honest. The wide receiver market is a

607
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Speaker 1: little more intriguing than I thought it was. Like, there

608
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Speaker 1: are still some interesting names out there. Um, I mean

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Speaker 1: Jarvis Landry again, not a guy that's not a guy

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Speaker 1: that's probably gonna sign here, but would love him too. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Jarvis Landry. Um, I'm not I promise I'm not just

612
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Speaker 1: naming LSU guys. But Odell is still out there as well. Well,

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Speaker 1: he's coming up that does not do anything, doesn't do

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Speaker 1: a anything for the Cowboys because they already have an

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Speaker 1: acluy um. But is this the look as we're talking

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Speaker 1: about that name pops up. Yeah, don't think that's gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: But is this the right kind of approach to have

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Speaker 1: at this point and after last season? And also could

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Speaker 1: this be something that you do see some of those

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Speaker 1: names kind of their prices start dropping and the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: do grab them. That's the thing I always say of

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Speaker 1: like like, no, I don't I don't necessarily agree with

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Speaker 1: it especially and so what I was gonna say is

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Speaker 1: like the garden tackle market looks even it looks pretty

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Speaker 1: die or not to not to be a naysayer, but

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Speaker 1: like Eric Flowers, Eric Flowers and Trey Turner are probably

627
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Speaker 1: the most interesting names. And then everybody else is somebody

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Speaker 1: that you associate with not being very good. Uh, Billy Price,

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Speaker 1: Quentin Spain, who was part of the Bengals line that

630
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Speaker 1: tried to get Joe Burrow killed. Um, if Dwayne Brown's

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Speaker 1: Dwayne Brown is still out there. There are yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean there are a few. Um No, I can't say

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Speaker 1: I love it because, like, I mean, you're right, they're

634
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 1: literally just like, well, if you're still out there, you

635
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 1: can sit out there and maybe maybe you'll readjust your

636
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 1: expectations the longer you go unemployed. Like that's that's what's

637
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 1: happening here in my opinion, and I've always said that, Like,

638
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 1: I don't think they need to be spending the silly

639
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 1: money on the first two days of free agency, but

640
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 1: there's more they could be doing. And going back to

641
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 1: the to what we were talking about at the top

642
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 1: of the show, they still have money and they're gonna

643
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 1: get more. Yeah, Like they can handle the draft class

644
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 1: with the money they get from Lyle in two months.

645
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 1: There's more they could have done with it. And in

646
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 1: a couple of cases it looks like almost too little,

647
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 1: too late at this point, which sucks. I think if we,

648
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 1: I mean actually broke down on a sheet of paper

649
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 1: of like the money that they're saving with all the

650
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 1: guys that they got, I mean, I don't think they

651
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 1: I mean I don't mean to bring this back up,

652
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 1: but I don't think they could have done all of that,

653
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 1: and that's just the approach that they took. Yeah, I

654
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 1: mean you add it all up, all the guys, Curse

655
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 1: and everybody just you know, and it's hard to It's

656
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 1: hard for us to do it because the way it's structured.

657
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 1: We can keep saying fourteen million for Randy, but it

658
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 1: wasn't going to be fourteen million the first year that

659
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:15,959
Speaker 1: that wasn't how they had it structured. So I mean,

660
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 1: that's not you can't even say that. You can't even

661
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 1: say that they stayed fourteen this year because that he

662
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 1: probably was going to count like seven or eight and

663
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 1: then it just balloons out. So it's hard to do that.

664
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 1: But um, you know the issue that I have. You

665
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 1: look at some of the names that are out there,

666
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 1: you know, big name like you know, Tyrn Matthew. I

667
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 1: don't think they'll do that at safety or Jadavian Clowney

668
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 1: or Stefana Gilmore. But it's like they've got players that

669
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 1: they don't they don't want those guys to be progress

670
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 1: stoppers as well. I don't think Bobby Wagner is going

671
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 1: to stop anyone's progress, So that's one I could see it.

672
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 1: But like they probably look at a guy like Patrick

673
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 1: Peterson or Gilmore to say, all right, he comes in

674
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 1: here and then does what, like what just Kelvin Joseph

675
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 1: play this ghost to not play if we get a

676
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 1: v you know. And that's the funny. That's we said

677
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 1: that last week. I don't I haven't spent a minute

678
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:11,080
Speaker 1: thinking about free agent DBS. I haven't even thought about

679
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 1: it because I mean, they brought back, brought back two

680
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 1: important ones, and I think their corner depth chart is

681
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 1: in great shape. Regardless of what some people think about

682
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 1: Anthony Brown. Um, it's the other ones I don't. I

683
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 1: don't know what Will Hernandez signed for, and I don't

684
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 1: even know if Will Hernandez is good, but he's still

685
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 1: I mean, he was the thirty fourth overall pick in

686
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 1: the same draft as Connor Williams. They liked him coming out,

687
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 1: and he started sixty games in the NFL. Uh. That's

688
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 1: the type of guy that I would have liked to

689
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 1: have seen them bring in. That's the type of guy

690
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:44,719
Speaker 1: they get. That is the type of guy they get.

691
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 1: That's what That's why I like, really, I'm zero I'm

692
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 1: zeroed in on the offensive line and I'm just like this,

693
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 1: you're not done here and you're kind of acting like

694
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 1: you are. Ye. Well, but I'd be honestly, I'd be

695
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 1: shocked if they don't add some free agent offensive line

696
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 1: before the draft, Actually be shocked they'll do that. I

697
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 1: would be surprised too. But that goes back to my point,

698
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 1: like it's getting the pickens are getting slim, and to

699
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 1: bring it back again, this could also be a situation

700
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 1: where after the draft some things change. Maybe somebody drafts

701
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 1: to tackle in the first round and cut a guy

702
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:18,400
Speaker 1: that's hanging out on the back end. I mean, you

703
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 1: got to keep all that stuff in mind. Yeah, But

704
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,479
Speaker 1: also if they do add to someone from the old line,

705
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 1: it makes me wonder. I'm like, Okay, are you at

706
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,320
Speaker 1: that point adding a body to add a body to

707
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 1: kind of back yourself up before getting into draft, or

708
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,800
Speaker 1: are you actually adding a body that has good experience

709
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 1: that will actually be able to contribute on the field.

710
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 1: I think the longer you wait, the more prevalent that

711
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 1: question becomes. Like the slimmer the Pickens get among the

712
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 1: free agents, you're like not to throw guys that have

713
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 1: been here under the bus, but like the cam Flimmings

714
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 1: and the cam Irvings, of the world where you're just like, yeah,

715
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 1: it means a body you've played. But it's what you said,

716
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 1: Eric Flowers. He's had a lot of experience, So bring

717
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 1: him in. Let's just see what I think. I may

718
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know. Maybe I'm just defending here.

719
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 1: I think Eric flowers resume is, especially since he moved

720
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 1: to guard, like I'm pulling him up right now. I mean,

721
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:17,840
Speaker 1: so bad as a tackler is so bad. He's started smart.

722
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 1: That is just kind of getting that out of your

723
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 1: mind that he's not a tackle anymore. He's started a

724
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 1: hundred games in the league and he's primarily been he

725
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 1: was a guard for the last like three years, and

726
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 1: he's started every game. He's been healthy for three straight years.

727
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 1: Not saying he's good and not saying he's good, but

728
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 1: he started. That is an improvement over the options that

729
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 1: they have here behind their top guys. And in the

730
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 1: case of the left guard, that's the thing that's that

731
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 1: is way better than what they have at left guard

732
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 1: right now. Ye. And that's also but that's the point

733
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,360
Speaker 1: that I think needs to be made, is that's the

734
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 1: kind of signing I think they're going to make, is

735
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:56,320
Speaker 1: somebody that's a veteran, may not be the greatest player,

736
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 1: but he gives him insurance in the event that can't

737
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: draft the guy that they want at the time that

738
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,359
Speaker 1: they want to draft him, he may not be there,

739
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 1: or they don't want to be pigeonhole because something falls

740
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 1: to them where they like, this other guy's just a

741
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 1: much better player out of position we really don't need,

742
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 1: but we want to take advantage of it. That's why

743
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 1: they'll make that kind I just need I need them

744
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 1: to be in a situation where they say, yeah, it

745
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 1: would be nice to draft Green, but Jamison Williams is

746
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,359
Speaker 1: We've got a whole half round grade better on him,

747
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 1: and Flowers can do it for a year, and we'll

748
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,839
Speaker 1: revisit this in the spring. And that's the remote. That's

749
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 1: how they do do it. Cowboys have four fifth round picks.

750
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 1: I would love if they in they don't have a

751
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 1: seventh rounder, so draft draft somebody in the fifth and

752
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 1: draft another one in the fifth to kind of make

753
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 1: up for your seventh that you don't have. But I

754
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 1: don't want them drafting four guys in the fifth round.

755
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,240
Speaker 1: I think that is a round where you can trade

756
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 1: your pick and get some kind of player in return.

757
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 1: And that's what I think could happen. You get offensive line,

758
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 1: you get a line, you get a guard that's like in,

759
00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 1: we already took a guard and he's in tract year.

760
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 1: He's probably not going to come back next year. And

761
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,479
Speaker 1: you might actually get a pretty good player, pretty decent player.

762
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 1: I mean you think about shoot Austin, Amari Cooper fetched

763
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 1: a fifth. We could get some great players with that.

764
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,240
Speaker 1: Good here you go. He's also a twenty million dollars

765
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 1: time you got Tavon Austin. I mean, I mean he

766
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 1: he was good at certain things. You know, Um, he

767
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 1: was a good part the spin the spin on that

768
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 1: the he's good at some things. He was good. He

769
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 1: wasn't great, but he was a speedy punt returner and

770
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 1: he made some plays. Yeah, No, I would like I

771
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 1: would I was alarming at times, was alarming. I would love.

772
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 1: I would love to see them do that type of

773
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 1: stuff more even easy, every easy, everybody. It's not bring

774
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 1: too much to this. He was a scary put return

775
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 1: he really absolutely was. Yeah, and I still wish on

776
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 1: that was at Minnesota game where he called fair catch

777
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 1: and they said he shouldn't have called it. I don't

778
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 1: know if there's a game in the time that I've

779
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 1: covered this team that pisses me off more than that games. Yeah, yeah,

780
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 1: Dak was just dealing and they would not let him

781
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 1: win the game. They just were terrified of letting the

782
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:15,439
Speaker 1: quarterback win the game. They ran it and yeah. Yeah, anyway, well,

783
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 1: let's go back to the draft and talk about some

784
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 1: we've been talking about the O line. We've talked well,

785
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,840
Speaker 1: they talked also about the past rusher situation. That's the

786
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 1: priority and all that. But looking at what happened last

787
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 1: in last year's draft, I believe it was eight out

788
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 1: of their eleven picks that they win with defense of

789
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 1: defensive player and they really back that whole area that

790
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:44,320
Speaker 1: side of the ball very well. Now is this the

791
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 1: year that maybe they could possibly do the same with

792
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 1: all the picks that they have bought on the other

793
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 1: side of the ball and really reinforce the offense. Maybe.

794
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 1: I mean, you guys just been talking about it there.

795
00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 1: You know, you want to get a tight end, you

796
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:00,359
Speaker 1: want to get a wide receiver, you want to get

797
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 1: offensive line help. They could turn us into just an

798
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 1: offensive draft and go heavy offense. Right, No, I love

799
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 1: that idea. Just because no, because I still think I mean,

800
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 1: linebackers not deep and corner corner looks good now, but

801
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 1: like Anthony Brown and Jordan Lewis may not be here

802
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 1: for you know, too much longer, safety, the press pressure.

803
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's more of a split year.

804
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 1: I think this is this is like, I mean, take

805
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 1: good players and at the end of the day, it'll

806
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 1: probably be a five four split or maybe six three,

807
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 1: but it'd be kind of split. They blew me, wasn't

808
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 1: it nine two? It was semi yeah, semi ball And no, no,

809
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:37,800
Speaker 1: it was eight to three. You're right it, yeah, Farniac,

810
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 1: it was eight to three year. But they blew me

811
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 1: away when they did that, because that's just not the

812
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 1: way draft classes usually work. Like what are the odds

813
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 1: that a defender is your highest grade every time you

814
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:49,880
Speaker 1: come up on the clock, or an or an offensive

815
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 1: player for that matter. So I leaned toward thinking no,

816
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 1: but I do, I do think an emphasis needs to

817
00:39:56,920 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 1: be placed. Yeah, I if you've even and if you

818
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 1: draft seven guys, you know, if you get rid of

819
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 1: a couple of those late picks, two offensive linemen, probably

820
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 1: a good idea a receiver, a tight end. I mean

821
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 1: that's four right there. Yeah, maybe a day. I think

822
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 1: this team would be very smart to draft a running

823
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 1: back on day three. M So yeah, I yeah, I

824
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 1: bet you there will be more offensive players drafted than defensive.

825
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 1: But I do still think they'll even it out. Not

826
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 1: Jerome bettest big, but I need I need a big

827
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 1: running back. I mean a bigger guy. Rashad White, what

828
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 1: team Arizona State? Okay, I like him a thing. Just

829
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 1: give me a runner that can he's big guy. No,

830
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 1: I mean I'm not. I'm not talking about a slow

831
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 1: guy here. I don't No. No, when I think you run,

832
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 1: I mean they can run the ball like I don't

833
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 1: care if he's big little, I don't care. Yeah, well

834
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:45,839
Speaker 1: can he play football well? And I think I think

835
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 1: he can. Yeah. Because the reason why I say that

836
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:53,359
Speaker 1: is I think, you know, Tony Pollard could come back

837
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 1: next year, and then I think you want kind of

838
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 1: a complimentary type guy to him, and so that's that's

839
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 1: what I'm looking for. I mean, don't have to get

840
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 1: both Scarborough in here, but like somebody that's, you know,

841
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 1: relatively big, that that's not a scatback type player, more

842
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 1: of a more of a three down runner that you're

843
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 1: sure you're gonna get Pollar back. No, I'm not sure

844
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 1: about that. I'm not sure about anything with running back.

845
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 1: Zeke might be here for the next ten years. I

846
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 1: don't know. But that's also why I think I just

847
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 1: get me a running back that can play like. I

848
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 1: don't try to match up because I don't know what's

849
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 1: going to happen necessarily, you know, as you start moving

850
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 1: down these next couple of years that you're running, just

851
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 1: want the three down running back that that start not

852
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 1: And I don't want another Tony Pollard type right now.

853
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 1: I'm not saying they're not valuable. I'm saying I don't

854
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 1: need to figuring out how to get Tony Pollard to

855
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 1: the ball is it was a chore in itself. So

856
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 1: I just another guy that can run the ball. He's

857
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:42,800
Speaker 1: gonna be your preseason hero. He's gonna get three hundred

858
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 1: rushing yards in the preseason. He's gonna look great. That's

859
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 1: the guy I want. Do you think Tony Pollers a

860
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 1: three down back? Yeah? I do too. What's three downs, second, third,

861
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:57,800
Speaker 1: and fourth? Special teams? No, I don't, not really, I

862
00:41:57,840 --> 00:41:59,919
Speaker 1: don't think so. I don't think I wouldn't want Tone

863
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,760
Speaker 1: Pollard to take the type of workload that Zeke takes,

864
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 1: but probably in this day and age, nobody should, right

865
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 1: I think most don't. Most don't, most teams don't. Tony

866
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 1: could probably stand to improve on his pass pro but

867
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 1: also just run him out on a route and if

868
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 1: you think you're going to get decked there he is.

869
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 1: You know, h yeah, I think he could do it

870
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 1: for sure. He's not. Again, we don't need to have

871
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 1: this debate right now. But like Zeke brings value in

872
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 1: that regard, just is it enough to offset the explosiveness

873
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 1: that you're not getting. Was Darren Sproles a three down back?

874
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: I don't think he ever was, but man, he killed

875
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 1: the Cowboys at times and he was so valuable in

876
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 1: his own way, and so so I don't know if

877
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:44,840
Speaker 1: that's necessarily a bad thing. I'm not saying he's I

878
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 1: don't think he should be a three down back, but

879
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 1: I think they can figure out ways to get him

880
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 1: the ball more and be a little bit more dynamic

881
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,799
Speaker 1: running back. It is not a problem for me right now.

882
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 1: And you know, running back that comes in here is

883
00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 1: gonna be good if you don't fix this old line

884
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 1: right now. So they better focus on that first and

885
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 1: then we'll see what falls down the line in those

886
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 1: later rounds. We're gonna take our final break when we

887
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 1: come back. I do want to talk about the new

888
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 1: rule that the NFL approved the owner's meetings, which is

889
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:18,880
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890
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:23,479
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Speaker 1: welcome back to the break. Um wanted to get here.

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Speaker 1: You guys's opinion on this new rule that the they approved,

931
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 1: which is, you know, it would only happen in playoffs.

932
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 1: And I thought that Stephen Jones quote was actually pretty

933
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 1: interesting because I never actually thought of this stad but

934
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 1: he basically said that every team and the team that

935
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 1: wins the toss is ten and two in the playoffs

936
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 1: as far as wins, So pretty interesting data. Ten and

937
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 1: two with seven of the ten wins coming on the

938
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 1: first possession of the game since twenty Yeah, so yeah,

939
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:22,800
Speaker 1: pretty compelling information right there. Yeah. So I've heard different

940
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 1: kinds of opinions. People that hate this rule and don't

941
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 1: think it's very good, some others that are kind of

942
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 1: okay with it. So what are y'all thought on it.

943
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:37,880
Speaker 1: I don't mind the rule. I don't. Here's why I

944
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 1: don't like. I don't like one game changing it. And

945
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 1: I feel like that's sort of what happened because then

946
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 1: in the FC Championship game the week later, it didn't

947
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 1: really affect it. My biggest issue is that I just

948
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 1: hate rules for playoffs but not regular season. I've seen

949
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:56,399
Speaker 1: the Cowboys in twenty eleven, twelve, and thirteen play week

950
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 1: seventeen with the game on the line, the season on

951
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 1: the line, when did vision or you go home? That

952
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 1: game sounds like a playoff game to me, And then

953
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 1: you're telling me that it's different because of you know, now,

954
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:09,399
Speaker 1: the overtime is different because it's not a playoff game.

955
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 1: If I don't win this game, I'm going fishing tomorrow,

956
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:14,800
Speaker 1: So it's matters. I mean, I don't just don't understand.

957
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 1: It's all about TV ratings and are not ratings. It's

958
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 1: TV time slots and making sure that games don't overlap

959
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:23,839
Speaker 1: and go too far. But I don't know. I mean,

960
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 1: that's that's not new though. I mean, hockey changes the

961
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 1: overtime rule in the playoffs. If you wouldn't know, if

962
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 1: you're tied after overtime. In hockey, you go to a

963
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:35,839
Speaker 1: shootout and the winner gets more points than the loot

964
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 1: like I think the loser winds up getting a point

965
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:39,319
Speaker 1: for getting to a shootout, and the winner gets an

966
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 1: extra point. And then in overtime or in the playoffs,

967
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 1: you just play overtime until somebody wins. I mean, that's

968
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 1: a terrible example. Why because they play eighty two hockey games.

969
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 1: If you haven't figured it out in the regular season,

970
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:51,800
Speaker 1: then you're not good enough to go in the playoffs.

971
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 1: But in sixteen or seventeen games. I think the regular

972
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 1: season matters more in the NFL than any other sport.

973
00:47:57,560 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 1: So that's why I think that I wouldn't change the rule.

974
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 1: So I think NFL games in December are like almost

975
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 1: like playoff games, and they shouldn't. You shouldn't change the

976
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 1: rule for I don't. I don't. I don't care about it.

977
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 1: I don't. I just you have the whole game, yeah,

978
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 1: and then you still have a chance to stop the guy.

979
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 1: And I mean for the for that, I don't think

980
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 1: the rule needed to be changed. I mean the way

981
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 1: that it's the way that the league is so passed happy.

982
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:23,399
Speaker 1: It's it's nice to give the other team a chance.

983
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, like Pat Mahomes is going to go

984
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 1: down and score, Josh Allen probably would have to. Um,

985
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 1: I disagree, though, Like I love that the league saw

986
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 1: a concrete example and was like, this might be broken,

987
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 1: maybe we should fix it. How long did we have

988
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 1: to wait for them to change the des rule after

989
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:41,320
Speaker 1: the Dez game? Where like I was thinking about that

990
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:45,840
Speaker 1: yesterday talking to Stephen the Bills Chiefs game happens, and

991
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 1: then like two months later, everybody's like, this has to

992
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 1: be fixed. Well, this has been a conversation for a

993
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 1: few it has, but I just like it felt like

994
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:58,319
Speaker 1: for like, for for a while after the Cowboy Packer game,

995
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 1: everybody was like shut up cow Boys, Like we get it,

996
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 1: you're upset about the catch rule. Nobody cares, And then

997
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 1: it finally got changed. After that, I thought it was

998
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 1: nice to see the league like identify a problem and

999
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 1: do something about it. Um, I don't know, I don't care,

1000
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 1: Like how often has this How often has it come

1001
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 1: up where this? I guess it's ten times since twenty ten,

1002
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 1: so like every other postseason. I don't know. I mean, yeah,

1003
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 1: I'm kind of weak. You day. I never really I

1004
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 1: wasn't as upset as everybody else in the rule. Like

1005
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 1: I thought, you know, you get yeah, I get it,

1006
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 1: And I thought the current rule does give you a

1007
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 1: chance to make sure that, like you can't lose on

1008
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 1: a field goal, So if you let him go all

1009
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 1: the way down the field and score a touchdown, you

1010
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 1: had a chance to stop him. You didn't, and you

1011
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:41,319
Speaker 1: lost the game. Like I just wasn't. I wasn't as

1012
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 1: as as crazy about this one as everybody else. They

1013
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 1: didn't need it to be changed, but I'm not. I'm

1014
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 1: not mad about more drama like that. That game. That

1015
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 1: game is as much fun as I've had watching football

1016
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 1: in a long time. And if you had told me

1017
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:56,399
Speaker 1: Josh Allen would have gotten the ball back, I'm okay

1018
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:58,879
Speaker 1: with that. I'd love to watch him try to tie

1019
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 1: that game. So that's fine, especially how this postseason win

1020
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 1: last year. I mean a lot of crazy games, but

1021
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 1: they all came down to like those like like last quarter,

1022
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:11,759
Speaker 1: those last few minutes where you'd actually got intense and

1023
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:14,319
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, what's gonna happen? And after playing three

1024
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 1: whole quarters of nonsense, basically terrible football, I guess What

1025
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 1: I'm saying too, is like, and I don't know this yet,

1026
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:24,800
Speaker 1: but does the strategy change? You know? Do you do

1027
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:27,399
Speaker 1: you want the ball second? Now? I think you do, yeah,

1028
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 1: because you know what, you may know what you need

1029
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 1: to do. It's kind of like college, right. And also

1030
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 1: if you stop them, you know you're getting the ball,

1031
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:34,839
Speaker 1: so might as well stop them, and maybe you punt

1032
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:36,279
Speaker 1: and you get the ball at midfield and all you

1033
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:38,359
Speaker 1: need at that point is a field goal. So yeah,

1034
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 1: that's that's what my point is. I don't think football

1035
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:45,320
Speaker 1: strategy should change in week eighteen of the season and

1036
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:48,400
Speaker 1: then the next week it changes. It completely changes, because

1037
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 1: now you're in the playoffs and you're not. Even though

1038
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 1: I've been, you know, it was a winner, go home mentality.

1039
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 1: And saying with baseball, which I don't really watch that too,

1040
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 1: I mean, why why is there two extra umpires in

1041
00:50:58,120 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 1: the outfield just for the playoff games? If it's neat

1042
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 1: and then do it, then do it. That's kind of

1043
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 1: what I'm thinking. So you wouldn't you would take the

1044
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 1: ball second? Now? I would take the ball second, just

1045
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 1: like college. Yeah, you can't lose on an offensive score. Yeah,

1046
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:13,759
Speaker 1: I would take take the wind if it's a if

1047
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 1: it's a need, yeah, I mean if I mean, if

1048
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 1: that's if that's a factor. Sure, wind, I mean I

1049
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 1: thought it was a factor again in New England. I

1050
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:24,479
Speaker 1: thought New England won the toss and the Cowboys played

1051
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 1: that game the way the wind was, I was like,

1052
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:28,279
Speaker 1: this works out good. I remember telling Dave and Rob that.

1053
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 1: I was like, this is actually a good thing, because

1054
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 1: you know, it was Mac Jones gonna get another miracle

1055
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:35,399
Speaker 1: type play and score touchdown. Probably not, They're gonna punt

1056
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:37,320
Speaker 1: into the wind. Cowboys are gonna get it and go

1057
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:39,680
Speaker 1: get a field goal or touchdown. And so that was

1058
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:42,799
Speaker 1: a case where yeah, weather, weather always is a factor

1059
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:46,320
Speaker 1: up there. It seems like my hopes for this season

1060
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 1: were so high at that game and just like as

1061
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:52,200
Speaker 1: good as I've ever felt about a Cowboy and what

1062
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:54,719
Speaker 1: But then it was like nothing, this is this is great,

1063
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 1: Like nothing is wrong with the world, even it's raining

1064
00:51:57,719 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 1: on this and this is this is great, that this

1065
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 1: Cowboys team is really good. Why is that glimping? Okay,

1066
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:06,239
Speaker 1: it's kind of grimacing there. That look good. Yeah he'll

1067
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 1: be fine, that was the thing. Oh, he'll be fine.

1068
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 1: They'd be fine. They're good and and you know he

1069
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:16,920
Speaker 1: was healthy after that. But it did it changed? Well,

1070
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 1: everything changed, Like I still don't know how did that

1071
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 1: affect it? Did the chemistry go away because he was

1072
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 1: out for a week. Actually, I don't think that I

1073
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 1: felt better about the team than next week when they

1074
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:29,760
Speaker 1: beat the Vikings with Cooper rush, I was like, Okay,

1075
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 1: now this team we're rolling out they can't if they

1076
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 1: can win with Cooper rushing the inn, they yeah, they're ready.

1077
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:38,799
Speaker 1: That's to bring it, which we're running out of time.

1078
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:40,799
Speaker 1: But that's this is these are the things I think

1079
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:45,839
Speaker 1: about where I'm just like that they wound up being disappointing. Yeah,

1080
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 1: and they're not better than they were then now and

1081
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 1: they probably won't be. I'm just gonna go out on

1082
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 1: a limb and say they probably won't be. And that's

1083
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:56,840
Speaker 1: a tough pill to swallow. Well, to wrap up the

1084
00:52:56,920 --> 00:53:00,239
Speaker 1: show and wrap up some of the things are summer right,

1085
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 1: some of the things that we talked about, which as

1086
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 1: far as like needs and all that. If the Cowboys

1087
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 1: had to play a game tonight and you had a

1088
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 1: choice to rain for reinforce three positions, only three, why

1089
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 1: would those three position positions be I could just get

1090
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 1: better than what we've got right now? How draft pick?

1091
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 1: I mean, like, can I call Randy, like, hey, can

1092
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:29,840
Speaker 1: you do us a solid one week for one night?

1093
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 1: Easy question. This is a really easy question, guys. We've

1094
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 1: already said it. It's center, it's guard's wide receiver, like

1095
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 1: those you're right now, those are positions you need help with. Left, guard,

1096
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:45,400
Speaker 1: wide receiver, defensive end more than center. Yeah, Like, if

1097
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:48,279
Speaker 1: this is the hypothetical, I'm don't like these defensive ends.

1098
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:51,320
Speaker 1: Like you don't think that that he just think that's comparable.

1099
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:54,320
Speaker 1: I think I don't. I think Randy is like I

1100
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 1: think to be given being given a little bit too

1101
00:53:57,640 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 1: much credit here center him, I have a problem with

1102
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:01,839
Speaker 1: center as much. And that that's really what it comes

1103
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:03,440
Speaker 1: down to. See, that's not here I been. If it

1104
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:05,800
Speaker 1: was the fourth position, you might say center might but

1105
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:08,440
Speaker 1: that's okay. I mean, that's that's what it comes down to.

1106
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 1: Like I noticed that when we were talking earlier. It's

1107
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 1: just and and you know, and I said it, if

1108
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 1: he gets if he can continue to get better, I

1109
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:18,759
Speaker 1: just not I'm not seeing as much but guard. For me,

1110
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 1: it'd be guards, center, and um a linebacker. You guys,

1111
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 1: if we were playing a game at night, you guys

1112
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 1: feel like wide receiver's fun, I said, receiver. Okay, I'm sorry, Nick,

1113
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:34,919
Speaker 1: I terrified of this receiver corpus. It's especially for playing

1114
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:38,799
Speaker 1: to night. Yeah, like receivers number one one can can

1115
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 1: gallop stiff arm with crutches. Who stiff arm? Then, yes,

1116
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 1: that's how my last boy scout pull out. While Washington

1117
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 1: you got Seze Lamb, you got Noel Brown. Okay, receiver, yeah, receiver, guard, center, Okay,

1118
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 1: figure it out, figured it out, you can do it.

1119
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 1: And that's that's that's part of this thing. It really is. Yeah,

1120
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,239
Speaker 1: it really is. Yeah, they thought he figured it out

1121
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 1: last year, and they're gonna let him figure and I

1122
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:09,839
Speaker 1: trust him to figure it out, like what he did

1123
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 1: with his defense, what you did with his defense goal.

1124
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 1: Oh that's actually going yeah, Actually, let's take the center,

1125
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 1: Let's take the center out and let's go with the guard.

1126
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 1: Let's go with the kicker, and let's go with the

1127
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 1: wide receiver. We're we're having we're joking right now, and

1128
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 1: it's it's not even April yet, so I get it.

1129
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 1: But there's they are putting a lot of pressure on

1130
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:34,279
Speaker 1: their personnel. Department. The way that this is, well, it

1131
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:37,879
Speaker 1: hasn't worked, and it's at some point it starts being

1132
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:41,239
Speaker 1: unfair in my opinion, where you're like, man, you guys

1133
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 1: do such a great job. Do it again. Man, you

1134
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 1: guys did a great job. Again. You guys, do it

1135
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 1: again again. We don't want to pay. Yeah, I just

1136
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 1: when you say hasn't worked, are you saying, like the

1137
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 1: fans say they haven't had another trophy? You know they Okay,

1138
00:55:57,239 --> 00:55:59,239
Speaker 1: you're right, I'm just asking like, what what do you

1139
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:02,800
Speaker 1: mean hasn't they have? Well, I'm actually I'll take the

1140
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 1: words right out of Will mcclay's mouth. It's like it's

1141
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:06,839
Speaker 1: not good enough because we're not accomplishing our goals. Yeah,

1142
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:10,719
Speaker 1: I mean, and they are again even more like I like,

1143
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:14,759
Speaker 1: you can't you can't put everything on the super Bowl

1144
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 1: because there's so much randomness that goes into that. But like,

1145
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:21,920
Speaker 1: barring a minor miracle, I don't think they're gonna be

1146
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 1: a better team than they were last year. And that's

1147
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 1: what it's about. And I know you got to worry

1148
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 1: about like the next three years, the next four years.

1149
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:31,759
Speaker 1: I think it's still reasonable to expect them to be

1150
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 1: trying to take a step forward in twenty twenty two,

1151
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 1: and I don't feel like they're doing that. I could

1152
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:39,919
Speaker 1: be wrong, that's my opinion. Yeah, mainly because they lost

1153
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:43,920
Speaker 1: Amari and Randy. I just replaced that level. And it's

1154
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 1: it's you can take the names out of it, Like

1155
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 1: the production and talent that they've lost is more than

1156
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:54,359
Speaker 1: what they've added in. And I don't think I don't

1157
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 1: think nine draft picks is enough to replenish that right away.

1158
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 1: You know, the last two drafts have been about as

1159
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 1: much as you could ask for, and you got like

1160
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 1: one immediate impact player per class win both of those.

1161
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:11,200
Speaker 1: And and that goes back to my point, like, yeah,

1162
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:14,960
Speaker 1: you found CD, you found Mica. Everybody's human. This thing

1163
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 1: is really really hard, Like they're you're gonna slip at

1164
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 1: some point. Probably they drafted Taco, they'll probably do it again.

1165
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:22,959
Speaker 1: And that's not a knock on Will and his guys.

1166
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:26,320
Speaker 1: That's just the reality of the draft. And so it's

1167
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:28,640
Speaker 1: just it puts a lot of pressure on him. You

1168
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 1: tend to realize so much on like, oh, well McClay,

1169
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 1: he's so great at his job, but Taco to Taco,

1170
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 1: Charlton and the other players that you know, you're you're

1171
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 1: not always gonna get them really really hard to consistently

1172
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:46,960
Speaker 1: get them right. Being great at that job probably means

1173
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:48,680
Speaker 1: you hit fifty percent in time, Like this is not

1174
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 1: a high percentage type thing to be great at at

1175
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 1: drafting players like you. Nobody drafts one hundred percent. Like

1176
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 1: nobody's gonna hit on every draft pick. So that's that's

1177
00:57:57,600 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 1: that's the nature of just that job in general. Like

1178
00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 1: you to miss, there's absolutely you gonna miss. It's just

1179
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 1: a part of it. And that's like I said, by

1180
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 1: and by and large, I think their strategy is right

1181
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 1: in general, but he can't count so much on that

1182
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:15,960
Speaker 1: in my opinion, and they refuse to agree with me

1183
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 1: about I think though honestly, like like if this was

1184
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:21,919
Speaker 1: a football game, I think we're in the We're still

1185
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 1: in the first quarter of how this gang is going

1186
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:26,400
Speaker 1: to go, because I think we sit here in Oxnard,

1187
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:28,920
Speaker 1: if we're all there, and hopefully we all are and

1188
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:31,440
Speaker 1: in Oxnard in a week looking good. Yeah, like like

1189
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 1: a week into Oxnard, I'd like to I'd like to see,

1190
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 1: like is this team you think it's it's better because

1191
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 1: of all the stuff that's happened draftwise, they got more

1192
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 1: free agency guys to sign, cut trade whatever. Now we'll

1193
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:44,560
Speaker 1: look at we've seen it for about a week. Now,

1194
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:47,320
Speaker 1: what do we really think Because this team won games

1195
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:50,280
Speaker 1: without d Law and Randy, they won games. They figured

1196
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 1: out on defense without Amari, We'll see. I mean that

1197
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:56,800
Speaker 1: that's that's a question. Seed's gonna have to take that

1198
00:58:57,240 --> 00:58:59,640
Speaker 1: that leap. He's got to be that guy. And if

1199
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:01,439
Speaker 1: he is is and then some of the other guys

1200
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 1: can help, then then they might have a chance there.

1201
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 1: I'm not ready to say that they've taken a step

1202
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:07,919
Speaker 1: backet because I just still think we're way too early

1203
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:11,120
Speaker 1: in the game. But looking at it now, they haven't

1204
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:12,920
Speaker 1: replaced it yet, so you have to say that. And

1205
00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 1: that's another reference that did upset me from Mike McCarthy

1206
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:19,680
Speaker 1: was like, we haven't gotten to the fourth quarter just yet.

1207
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:22,120
Speaker 1: In free agent. I'm like, oh my god, Well, it

1208
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 1: doesn't always work out for y'all in the fourth quarter.

1209
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:29,360
Speaker 1: But whoa, you're not wrong. It doesn't. They struggle so

1210
00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:31,480
Speaker 1: much first, second, and third that whatever happened in the

1211
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 1: fourth quarters doesn't. Wow, that's a hell of an analogy, right, Yeah,

1212
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:38,960
Speaker 1: So there's two ways to look at it. Yeah all right,

1213
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:41,760
Speaker 1: well Derek, I'll let you do the honors. Thank you

1214
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:45,920
Speaker 1: guys for joining us. We'll see you later. Bless wow wow, Okay,

1215
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Speaker 1: I'll take it. This has been a production of Dallas

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