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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 1: in Barrio, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to

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Speaker 1: you by Bally Beck. Coming soon to Ohio on eight

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Speaker 1: fifty ESPN Cleveland. Here are your hosts, Bow Bishop and

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Speaker 1: Nathan Zigura. That's too live on a Monday edition. Merely

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Speaker 1: Bow the Great Z Cleveland Brown's Daily on the precipice

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Speaker 1: of the Combine Z. Oh, what an absolute treat. That's right.

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Speaker 1: We will be heading making our way to Indianapolis later today,

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Speaker 1: which is going to be as we know, it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be glorious. You've got Nada coming up tonight's and delightful

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Speaker 1: tacos to welcome us to Indianapolis as has become the tradition.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, I'm looking forward to I think it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be fun, and I'm looking forward to hearing, you know

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Speaker 1: kind of what the talk is, what's the talk around

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Speaker 1: the league, what's the talk you know about the Browns

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Speaker 1: all of that. So I'm excited for that. And also

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you know this, Bow or not,

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Speaker 1: and I would I would love to enlist your help

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Speaker 1: as well. But apparently Gibe, there's a conversation that was

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Speaker 1: had by some luminaries and Gibbe earlier today about the

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Speaker 1: Brown's Daily handle. I know you don't follow me on

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Speaker 1: social so you didn't see my tweet, which is why

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Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you ribly right now. So we

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Speaker 1: are currently at on Brown's Daily I think somewhere like

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Speaker 1: right around thirty eight thousand followers. Okay, they have given

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Speaker 1: us a goal by the end of the week to

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Speaker 1: be at forty five thousand followers of Brown's Underscore Daily

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Speaker 1: on Twitter. On Twitter, no one's adding ten thousand people

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Speaker 1: in a week anymore. We can do this, GiB A.

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Speaker 1: So you're like, Gibbe, you're saying that we can't do it.

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Speaker 1: I think the number in the But like, I mean,

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Speaker 1: just from the standpoint of well, first of all, like

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Speaker 1: a maybe we need to break down exactly what Brown's

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Speaker 1: Underscore Daily is and the fact that it's Gibbey's burner.

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Speaker 1: It is Gibbey's burner, which makes it certainly worth following.

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Speaker 1: But it's ironic that he's saying that it can't be done. Really,

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Speaker 1: I think he wants it to be done. I want

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Speaker 1: to prove him wrong. I want us to get the

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Speaker 1: help you yes, And I think between my account and

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Speaker 1: your account and you're following in all kinds of others,

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Speaker 1: I think that there's I think we can get there.

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Speaker 1: I think we have a chance. And I'm told this

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Speaker 1: is by this was above me, yea way way above me.

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Speaker 1: We're talking large that if we do get to forty

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Speaker 1: five thousand dollars, forty five dollars, we'll take thousand dollars,

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Speaker 1: we take time, Yeah, forty five thousand followers by the

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Speaker 1: end of the week, that there will be a significant

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Speaker 1: CBD giveaway significant Well, what do we get, hugs? The

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Speaker 1: privilege of retweeting it? I don't know. This is for

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Speaker 1: the people. BO feels like we're being asked to do yeah,

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Speaker 1: more things by the big els yep, without anything what's

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Speaker 1: coming my way? Fair question. The privilege of being around Gibbe, well,

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Speaker 1: the privilege of proving GiB a wrong. The Gibbe to

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Speaker 1: give you this and Albus, both of them, they both listen.

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Speaker 1: They try to sometimes squelch our joy. You're aware of that,

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Speaker 1: and now they don't. And sometimes I would say Gibbe

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Speaker 1: acts like he doesn't believe in me. Certainly, sometimes even

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Speaker 1: you and right now he's saying that he doesn't even

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Speaker 1: believe in our fans. Oh, I believe in the fans right,

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Speaker 1: no question, no question. So we need them, We need

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Speaker 1: you guys. So I tweeted it out spread the word

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Speaker 1: this is we are spite getting it there. Well, it

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Speaker 1: was presented that that's what they want to have happened.

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Speaker 1: Gibbe was like, no way, that's not happening, And I'm like,

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Speaker 1: why not, Gibbe, why can't it happen? Like me and

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Speaker 1: you combined are well over like almost two hundred thousand.

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Speaker 1: We just need to get a nuts you're Yeah, that's you,

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Speaker 1: that's You're the franchise, the franchise. We just made a

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Speaker 1: percentage of us together, a small percentage of us together,

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Speaker 1: because obviously not everybody follows us follows a show, yeah

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Speaker 1: or Gibbey's burner. So we just need a small percentage

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Speaker 1: of these people to be like, you know what, just

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Speaker 1: click that following. If they do, there's gonna be something

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Speaker 1: that everybody who is a true fan of this show, yeah,

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Speaker 1: will want to have happened. They will want that outcome. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: So what would be something that would be that the

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Speaker 1: you know what they really want? What the people want? Oh,

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Speaker 1: then I don't want to play golf with people I

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Speaker 1: playing golf with me and Gibbe and then this one

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Speaker 1: and one other person one lucky winner. Yeah. I like that.

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Speaker 1: At a place that you can't just call to get

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Speaker 1: that's right, that's right. Well, and and pro shop swag

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Speaker 1: I'm members to have to call and to say what's

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Speaker 1: going on. We're getting We're getting be smirched right now,

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Speaker 1: we're getting killed killed. And and no, no golf shirts

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Speaker 1: that are eight sizes too big either. No, that's the

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Speaker 1: least we accomplish this, you and I get a say

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Speaker 1: on all golf shirts that are thrown our way in

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Speaker 1: terms of the maker. Don't you think that we should

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Speaker 1: have a golf shirt with our now that we we've

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Speaker 1: I you know what I want if we if we

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Speaker 1: you got me. Now you're gonna get some retweeting. Okay,

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Speaker 1: now he's in. Now that's sad that you don't build

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Speaker 1: to post it on the gram. That that's sad. I'm

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Speaker 1: it's just you're missing out. I know it. I just

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Speaker 1: but like, who where is that intellectual property? I feel

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Speaker 1: like somebody takes it over. They're holding it hostage, hoping

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Speaker 1: your account back for they did it on Twitter. It

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Speaker 1: it out for you. Yeah, because he's platform. He's the

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Speaker 1: one who has it. Right. Yeah, it's like little it's

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Speaker 1: mini ransoms. Yeah, it is a mini ransom. Yeah, mini

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Speaker 1: ransom exactly what it is, right, Yeah, And so it's

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Speaker 1: that is frustrating. But every time I look at I'm like,

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Speaker 1: I get in those, you know, you just start doing this. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of good stuff that you're missing. But

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Speaker 1: you're onto something. Yeah, now maybe you've got something happening there.

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Speaker 1: I can see that. Um. One of the things. We

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Speaker 1: Give me strying to tweet into the show or text

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Speaker 1: text into the show. He's texting us what we're doing

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Speaker 1: the show. You could of been here with us. He

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Speaker 1: could have been He picked a very very difficult, very

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Speaker 1: you guys are going after the show. Correct, But I'm

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Speaker 1: This was a wide open scenario he had all day long.

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Speaker 1: he's gone, he's on the road. Yeah, so he wants

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Speaker 1: to tweet. And I believe in everyone but Zigura. See

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Speaker 1: that's a lie that he doesn't believe in any of you.

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Speaker 1: thirty eight thousand, all right, he picked up a thousand morning, right,

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Speaker 1: it's it's eventually can be proven false, right, just by

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Speaker 1: playing golf with you, right, and then you go, oh,

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Speaker 1: were at a brunch after the Cornerstone Gala, which I

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Speaker 1: So Cornerstone of Hope is an unbelievable organization that I've

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Speaker 1: the board. And then they had their twentieth annual gala

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Speaker 1: this past weekend, past Saturday night, and it was record

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Speaker 1: So it was awesome to be a part of that.

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Speaker 1: I would love to have, you know, next year or

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Speaker 1: you before. But it was cool to be a part

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Speaker 1: Can we do this? It was are you on board?

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Speaker 1: the year would allow you to go in and grab

421
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Speaker 1: a few things. No, no, his for himself. Yeah, like

422
00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,719
Speaker 1: fill an equipment bag for the for the guest. Oh no, no,

423
00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,040
Speaker 1: that's a whole other thing I'm talking about for us.

424
00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,320
Speaker 1: I'm not worried about giving stuff to other people. I'm like,

425
00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:17,560
Speaker 1: how are we enriching our lives? But give a You're

426
00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:19,440
Speaker 1: a good point. I think we need people to understand

427
00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:21,600
Speaker 1: that there's an incentive for them as well to get

428
00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:23,719
Speaker 1: to forty five thousand. Well that's both. So now you

429
00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,360
Speaker 1: get a foursome with us. You're the fourth and the foursome,

430
00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,840
Speaker 1: and maybe we see if we can do a grab bag.

431
00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:35,199
Speaker 1: I'm fine with that. I would I would like I

432
00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,520
Speaker 1: would like us to get a little to get a

433
00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:39,320
Speaker 1: little love on the back end of this as well.

434
00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:44,040
Speaker 1: So I got I got, I got big wigs in

435
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,600
Speaker 1: the office and they're talking to me, and I'm like, well, yeah,

436
00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:50,520
Speaker 1: let's let's let's make a run at it. Like thirty

437
00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:57,840
Speaker 1: eight thousand. It's been a steady number talking to him

438
00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:00,880
Speaker 1: and I'm packing up and I'm like, yeah, that sounds great.

439
00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:03,119
Speaker 1: You know what, let's get the plan together. And they're like,

440
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 1: well we want this by Friday. Yeah, that's just stopped.

441
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:10,000
Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, because I don't have anything else

442
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,359
Speaker 1: going on this week. Yeah, well, we're gonna give us

443
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:14,600
Speaker 1: a great content from the combine. We're gonna be reminding

444
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,720
Speaker 1: people about this, you know. I mean, maybe we go

445
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,000
Speaker 1: live on do we do do we do something live

446
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:23,399
Speaker 1: on Twitter? Tonay from Nada as He's gonna have to

447
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:27,200
Speaker 1: be careful, careful. It's always be careful with that careful. Yeah,

448
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:29,960
Speaker 1: well I know how it goes, so yeah, I have

449
00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:34,400
Speaker 1: I've got I got obligations. I can't get so foot

450
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:38,800
Speaker 1: loose and fancy for you. Right, Yeah, we'll see, we'll see. Okay,

451
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,639
Speaker 1: I mean I don't. I'm just I'm just spitballing because

452
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,720
Speaker 1: we've got to grow this now by six thousand by Friday,

453
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 1: I guess down from seven thousand. I was just I

454
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:50,439
Speaker 1: thought I thought it was a tall I thought it

455
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 1: was a tall task. Giving all of the tasks that

456
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,600
Speaker 1: we've been assigned to get done this week. Already, this

457
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 1: week has a lot going on. I will acknowledge that.

458
00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 1: I will say this. It is it. I believe, I

459
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:09,680
Speaker 1: believe in the people. Yeah, well that's good. That's good,

460
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:13,439
Speaker 1: and and and zigara. While I'm while I'm in a

461
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,679
Speaker 1: nice frame of mind right now before I want to

462
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:26,000
Speaker 1: kill you later, I'm sure, Okay, I am I notion.

463
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 1: I believe you know when I threaten your life, Okay,

464
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:34,359
Speaker 1: when when I want to threaten you like you'll be threatened, Um,

465
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:36,159
Speaker 1: I want to kill you later. I just want to

466
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:39,920
Speaker 1: say congratulations for for your Saturday night success. Thank you,

467
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:52,159
Speaker 1: thank you. You know there watched over Bootsy an entire evening.

468
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:58,480
Speaker 1: We I am. I am intrigued to get your perspective.

469
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 1: I did not know it was happening. My my wife

470
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 1: had reached out and told me at one point in

471
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 1: the evening She's like, hey, by the way, d he's

472
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,679
Speaker 1: watching the Bishop Boys, And I was like, oh really

473
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 1: yeah and yeah. The only the only text I got

474
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 1: prior to the end of the night was this Bootsy

475
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:22,119
Speaker 1: Kid's amazing. Yes, I was gonna say, I want her perspective, like,

476
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 1: is he He's the king of the world right, Well,

477
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 1: so everybody, She's like everything that I hope for and more. Yes.

478
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:34,200
Speaker 1: So when we got home, Um, it was so funny.

479
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 1: She's like, I guess, she goes, I had never, Like, well,

480
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 1: it's been I go, she goes. I don't know if

481
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:40,880
Speaker 1: she said she had never or it had been so

482
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:44,199
Speaker 1: long since she had babysit like three boys and so

483
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,400
Speaker 1: they're eleven, nine and seven, and like they just go,

484
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 1: just next thing, just let's play hide and seek, let's

485
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 1: play basketball, let's do this, let's do this. And then

486
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 1: Buddy Garrity's in the mix. So you got he's in

487
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:57,919
Speaker 1: the mix. So I mean, it's it's a lot going on.

488
00:25:58,000 --> 00:25:59,919
Speaker 1: But she goes, it's been a long time since I

489
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:04,160
Speaker 1: forgot how active boys are as opposed to boy girl

490
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 1: or whatever. Yeah. So, yeah, it was great. They loved it.

491
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:12,439
Speaker 1: That's good. Yeah. Yeah, she's running it back next Saturday.

492
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 1: She's running it right back. Lobigation Saturday nights. Yeah. Oh yeah,

493
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 1: how was it? By the way, we did you wear

494
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 1: a tie on Saturday? No? No, did you go with

495
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:30,879
Speaker 1: a nice hoodie? Uh no? Polo Polo, Yeah no, that

496
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,399
Speaker 1: was it was the Sacks guy there was bringing it.

497
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:39,360
Speaker 1: Crushed it, Uh yeah, crushed. It's fantastic. Um, all right,

498
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,240
Speaker 1: give a um you have what do you got about?

499
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 1: Two hours? Two two? What do you got seven hours left?

500
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 1: As you make the turn of dating? Is that about

501
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:51,120
Speaker 1: how far? Uh? I am? Two hours out right now?

502
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 1: Who's driving it? It is? Yeah, there's no way. Not

503
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 1: Stevie's driving. I could see Ki, I could see Kim.

504
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,119
Speaker 1: Make him drive him like dress up in like a

505
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 1: black suit. No no, no, no no, no no no. I

506
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,399
Speaker 1: will say this. It had stopped raining for a while,

507
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,360
Speaker 1: and I was feeling pretty good. And now I look,

508
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 1: it looks like we're heading into like and I don't know,

509
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,200
Speaker 1: the end of the world might be coming. I might

510
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 1: try and go through Fort Wayne, see if that'll get

511
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 1: me around the Deracio. Deracio is probably gonna extend from

512
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:26,879
Speaker 1: like Chicago South Great. I don't know if there's a

513
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 1: way to avoid that. If it's coming, are we should

514
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 1: we be going to Indie Gibbeck. No, we should not

515
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 1: zigour and I should stay you and not Stevie. Run

516
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:38,880
Speaker 1: it from over there. We'll be guests back here. We've

517
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,199
Speaker 1: got some fantastic people lined up for all of you

518
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:42,879
Speaker 1: this week. But I think you guys would do a

519
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 1: great job. I think that that I don't think that

520
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 1: gets us to forty five thousand. All right, drive safe, buddy,

521
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,119
Speaker 1: Drive safe, Gibbeck, gentlemen, you guys, drive safe and have

522
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 1: a great show. You continuing. All right, great day. He

523
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 1: has made the turn. He's two hours. Oh he's still here.

524
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,239
Speaker 1: It's called the I'm the show me state you got.

525
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 1: You think he's gone. He's never gone, never gone. It's like,

526
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 1: what about, Bob, there's no it's the worst drive. It's

527
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,120
Speaker 1: the worst drive that I've ever that I've ever made.

528
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 1: It's awful. It just frustrates because you's the only one

529
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 1: where you look on a map and you go, why

530
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 1: can't I just drive there? Yeah? Why do I have

531
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 1: to drive all the way down here to go over there?

532
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 1: There's a stupid State of Indiana Highway there. I was like,

533
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep talking. I don't know. I'm still here.

534
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 1: We have to go a plus three. We can't just

535
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 1: go we can't go on see. Yeah, there's no right,

536
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 1: you got to go south for a while before two hours. Yeah,

537
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 1: not even a little bit two hours before you can

538
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 1: get over there. Yeah, awful, all right, give a great job.

539
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 1: Still here, he's still here. It's like Will ferrelland it

540
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 1: wasn't Austin Power very badly burned. Oh one other thing, Um,

541
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 1: the our ownership group, the HASLM Sports Group, has bought

542
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 1: a portion twenty five percent of the Milwaukee Bucks from

543
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 1: co owner Mark Lazarie agreed to sell his steak in

544
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 1: the club to d and Jimmy Haslm in the HASLM

545
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 1: Sports Group. Um. This was a big contention on social

546
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 1: because the original headline was written that the twenty that

547
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 1: they had agreed to sell for three point five billion,

548
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 1: and the word valuation was left off. So I'm doing

549
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 1: the and again state school, I'm doing the quickmath. I'm

550
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 1: going three point five billion for twenty five percent. You're

551
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 1: telling me the Bucks are worth fourteen billion dollars. Yeah,

552
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, that's like double the biggest NFL team, right, No, yeah,

553
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 1: no way, no sense. Right point three point five billions, Yes, yes,

554
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 1: twenty five percent of that, which works out to eight

555
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 1: hundred and some thousand or whatever. So that's million, eight

556
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 1: hundred and some million is what it is. And so

557
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 1: that's it's become one of the most dynamic ownership groups

558
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 1: in sports. You've got the Columbus Crew were picked up

559
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago the Browns and now the

560
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 1: Milwaukee Bucks as well. So that is all in there,

561
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,239
Speaker 1: lots to get to. As we mentioned, a combine is

562
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 1: here like fourteen billion for the Bucks, Like no, wait,

563
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 1: what are we doing here? Yeah? Yeah, we'll go around

564
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 1: the NFL. One of the things that we said would

565
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 1: happen already has happened at the combine. We will have

566
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 1: that for you. We will have numbers two and one

567
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 1: of the biggest needs for us this offseason, Deshaun Watson

568
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 1: did a podcast with this quarterback coach, Quincy Avery. We'll

569
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 1: have that for you in the second hour of the

570
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 1: program here from the PFF guys about what they look

571
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 1: for the Browns in this offseason. You have that to

572
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 1: look forward to. In our All AFC South roster. This

573
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 1: is not a loaded roster like some of the other

574
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 1: divisions that we've seen. We're often running here on a

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580
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Speaker 1: your Cleveland Browns. I believe we had this. The Bears

581
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 1: have already been approached by multi teams about trading the

582
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 1: drafts number one overall pick. Chicago is said to be

583
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 1: leaning towards moving the pick. That's been more definitive than

584
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 1: that that that they're saying, we're open for business. You

585
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 1: had this, We were talking about this a month. Yes,

586
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 1: this would go. This is the time that you would

587
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 1: do it. You would come to the combine if you're

588
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 1: Chicago and you would say best final go. Yes, yeah,

589
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 1: you give us the best the final and we're off

590
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 1: and running that. I think that if you're them, you'd

591
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 1: want this business done as soon as possible. I know

592
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 1: that some of these deals haven't are things that haven't

593
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 1: taken place until, you know, like March. But I think

594
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 1: at the same time, if you're the Bears, I mean,

595
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 1: let's say, for example, that it's Houston that you want

596
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:00,479
Speaker 1: to do the deal with to keep the number one

597
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 1: overall pick out of Indie's hands. Houston has two ones

598
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 1: this year. Yeah, that's the best one. You could go

599
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 1: two and what's their pick from us? Like thirteen, yeah,

600
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 1: something like mid teams. Yeah, yeah, you could go pick

601
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 1: second overall in thirteenth, you get Jalen Carter and Jackson

602
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 1: Smith and Jigbin one draft and you're probably gonna get

603
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 1: in addition to that, you're probably gonna get more. Yeah,

604
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 1: you get it two another one, like, yeah, another one,

605
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 1: but they're gonna they would want all the all the

606
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:30,959
Speaker 1: time in the world to sort that out. So like Houston, Indie,

607
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 1: I mean, the other teams with two first round picks,

608
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 1: or the Lions and the in Seattle, if you want

609
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 1: it right now, if you were trying to do it

610
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 1: right now, I don't know if those teams are interested

611
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 1: in going all the way up to one. They would

612
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 1: certainly have the ability to based on, you know, the

613
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 1: things at their disposal. But either way, if you're Chicago,

614
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 1: you want this thing done. And so now they're open

615
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 1: for business. And it's not surprising that they're open for business.

616
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 1: So yeah, you're right, They've got Houston is twelve, So

617
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 1: two and twelve they could get would be phenomenal. I mean,

618
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 1: that's a great place to be without question. I mean

619
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 1: they could get the best defensive player in the draft. Yeah,

620
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 1: and they could flip two if they wanted, You could

621
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Speaker 1: flip two for somebody else who wants to move up

622
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 1: and get the second quarterback. They could be in a

623
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Speaker 1: great Indie's taking quarterback at four. Well right, and then

624
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 1: Carolina may want to jump them, so you could end

625
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 1: up turning. You may be able to turn one into

626
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 1: and by the way, if you went to four, which

627
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 1: would be a great spot, you would be able to

628
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 1: get still probably the person you were taking at one.

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Speaker 1: Potentially the only chance, the only thing would be if Arizona,

630
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Speaker 1: like Jalen Carter and Will Anderson are going to be

631
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Speaker 1: probably the first two defensive guys. Yeah, but if you

632
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Speaker 1: like both of them, if you like them both ones

633
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 1: an end and ones a tackle, yep, so they're both great,

634
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 1: you're gonna get one of them. Guaranteed you get multiple ones.

635
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 1: You could maybe turn you could end up with You

636
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 1: could end up with four or five ones for number one,

637
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 1: and you will get the defensive player you wanted all

638
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 1: along exactly. Yeah, that's what they should do, and they

639
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 1: if I were them, like I would be very interested

640
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 1: in that. In Houston and playing these teams off one another.

641
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 1: I mean, all Houston had to do was not screw

642
00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:14,919
Speaker 1: that out at the end of the year and they're

643
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 1: picking number one anyway. That's right, that's right. It's one

644
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 1: of the biggest you blew it boys of all time? Really,

645
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 1: is Lovey Smith for Bears coach? Yeah, revenge on his

646
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 1: way out, on his way out, lame duck stacks up. Man,

647
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:34,879
Speaker 1: you're gonna lame duck me watch this, Watch this boys. Yeah,

648
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 1: I like that. One NFL team is proposed making roughing

649
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:41,720
Speaker 1: the pass a reviewable by instant repay. The Competition Committee

650
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 1: expects review their proposal today. For Washington Post, NFL reporter

651
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 1: Mark Maski, Um, I don't know, don't need it doesn't

652
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 1: need to be reviewable. They're not going to get it right, no,

653
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,439
Speaker 1: he said. The proposal less it's withdrawn by that team

654
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 1: will go before the owners. Um to me, like, it

655
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,839
Speaker 1: just needs be defined. Here's it is. Blows to the head,

656
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 1: roughing the passer, knees and below, roughing the passer anything

657
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 1: in the strike zone as you and I talked about. Yeah, fine,

658
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:15,720
Speaker 1: unless it is late, like egregiously late. Yeah, falling on somebody,

659
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:17,799
Speaker 1: landing on them because you're tackling them. That's part of

660
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,959
Speaker 1: football that needs to go. That needs to go immediately.

661
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,359
Speaker 1: Like if you tackle somebody and you fall on them,

662
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 1: that's fine. You drive them into the ground with a

663
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:31,399
Speaker 1: perfect form tackle, that's fine. This is football. Yeah, yep, yep,

664
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 1: that's that's that's got to get sorted out. But I

665
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 1: don't the reviewing of it is going to be a disaster.

666
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 1: Just like pass interference, they're terrible as that mess. It

667
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 1: has to be where roughing needs to be. Everybody in

668
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 1: the building, whether they want admitted or not, because it

669
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:48,839
Speaker 1: was their team that did it, is like, oh yeah

670
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 1: that was that wasn't okay, Yeah, it's no. It's just honestly,

671
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 1: they're all the same. You know what passed interference is

672
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 1: when you see it. You know what roughing the passer

673
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 1: is when you see it right, And if it's it's

674
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 1: it's really not that hard. It's just it's just not O.

675
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:04,879
Speaker 1: High state quarterback CJ. Stroud Florida is Anthony Richardson will

676
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:06,839
Speaker 1: throw at the combine. Bryce Young will wait to throw

677
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,320
Speaker 1: for his Alabama Pro day. According to the NFL Networking

678
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:12,320
Speaker 1: ciders Ian Rappaport Tom Pilla Sero, I think Will Levis

679
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 1: is going to throw too. He's the third quarterback in

680
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 1: that mix, Rapport added, Bryce Young will only be doing

681
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:21,399
Speaker 1: interviews this week in Indie. I don't know. I don't

682
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 1: know that any of this matters. Like I think, if

683
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 1: you're somebody like Anthony rich then maybe you can wow

684
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 1: a little at the Pro Day. But he's also he's

685
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 1: gonna do a Florida Pro Day. He's gonna work out

686
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:35,360
Speaker 1: for teams individually. It's not like something that's here is

687
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 1: going to change. And it doesn't change what happens in

688
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:40,319
Speaker 1: the draft because if if you were to believe what

689
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 1: happened at the Combine last year, Malik Wilson was going

690
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 1: to go in the top ten. He went in the

691
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 1: third round. Folks. I think it's a good idea for

692
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 1: Bryce Young because I think what it makes him special

693
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 1: is not something where he needs to stand there next

694
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 1: to Anthony Richardson and throw a football or CJ. Stroud

695
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 1: just from a size standpoint. There's stuff going around that

696
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 1: they're similar in stature and they're not there way, no, no,

697
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 1: not at all. The rams of ed trade talks regarding

698
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 1: cornerback Jalen Ramsey, it's believed the six time Pro Bowl

699
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 1: corner will be traded in the coming weeks, according the

700
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 1: NFL Network insider Tom Pillicero, and apparently I've heard through

701
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 1: some some back channels that this was this is at

702
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 1: his request in the Rams doing the Rams are he

703
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:20,840
Speaker 1: is actively being shopped. He will be traded. It's not

704
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 1: like people are calling him up and saying, hey, we

705
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 1: want Jalen Ramsey. I think they are, but it is

706
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 1: known put it this way within league circles, that he

707
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 1: is on the move. They're tearing it down. It makes

708
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 1: me wonder if Aaron Donald plays for the Rams this year,

709
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 1: what about Stafford? I mean, is McVeigh going to be

710
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 1: around for the rebuild? Is he gonna try? He would

711
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 1: he be invigorated by that. I don't like trying to

712
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 1: actually build it. There's really nothing that fun about that.

713
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 1: If only if you hit on all of it. Losing

714
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:49,439
Speaker 1: some people love that process, but you have to lose

715
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 1: for a while. First, yes you do? Yeah, yeah, I

716
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 1: don't know, not a long while. I mean Cincinnati flipped

717
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 1: it pretty quick. Two good drafts you got well Burrow right, yeah,

718
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 1: Burrow Chase back to back Higgins Burrow Chase Higgins and

719
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,879
Speaker 1: back to back drafts. First three picks pretty good? Yeah,

720
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 1: but who was their first round pick the year before

721
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:21,319
Speaker 1: four Burrow. Was it maybe Jonah Williams. Yeah it could

722
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 1: have been. Yeah, that could have been not great, but

723
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 1: those two back to back were there were the ones

724
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 1: that hit it. Um all right, what else do we

725
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 1: have here? This from Oh, this is uh Devin mccordy.

726
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 1: He was on Good Morning Football talking about the future

727
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 1: of Mac Jones in New England. Let's hear from Devin mccordy. Yeah.

728
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 1: I like to remind people in New England twenty fourteen,

729
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 1: it was put Jimmy Garoppolo in, get Tom Brady out.

730
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 1: It's over. Twenty twenty two, he just retired and everyone

731
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 1: was sitting there like he threw fifty something passes, almost

732
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 1: sixty passings last game. He could really play, So I

733
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Speaker 1: wouldn't go too hard off of what did People in

734
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Speaker 1: New England are saying. What I'll say about Mac is

735
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 1: to combine a sponsor by Noble. This year, Mac is Noble.

736
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 1: They know the future is Matt Jones, and I'm excited

737
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 1: for this guy this year because now you get you

738
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 1: get Billy O'Brien coming in as an offensive coordinator. Great success.

739
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 1: Has done well everywhere he's been offensively. He gets to

740
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 1: come in and now work with Mac. He's gonna have

741
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 1: stability around him. I think the team is gonna go

742
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 1: get another guy to be a receiver in that offense.

743
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 1: Hopefully bring my guy Jacobe. Heires Mack and being part

744
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 1: of it. But I'm excited because last year, you come in,

745
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 1: you have a movement, You get to work with Josh mcde's,

746
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 1: who I think is one of the best offensive minds

747
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 1: in this league. You get to work with him in

748
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 1: your rookie year. And then you get Maddie p with

749
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:42,479
Speaker 1: a mixture of Joe Judge with Coach Belichick. All guys

750
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 1: who are new to call the actual offense obviously build

751
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 1: more experience than any coach in the NFL as a

752
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 1: head coach really, but it's just so much movement, so

753
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 1: much change. It's only your second year, but I think

754
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,399
Speaker 1: it speaks volumes. He's a captain in that locker room

755
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 1: and only a second year and really kind of was

756
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 1: a capt and the the year before as a rookie leading

757
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 1: those guys. So I'm excited for Mac. I think sky's

758
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 1: the limit. I think he's a future of New England.

759
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,359
Speaker 1: Any doubts, I think you're wrong. If you don't think that.

760
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:11,839
Speaker 1: I think he's a future. He's in that building right

761
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:15,320
Speaker 1: now doing different things, working with guys, talking to guys.

762
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 1: That's what he wants. He wants to win, and I

763
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 1: think that's what it's about. He comes from a winning

764
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 1: pedigree at Alabama, wants to do those things. But I

765
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 1: think some of the rumbling that always come out. We

766
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 1: always talk about this. Sources say Mac Jones rubbing people

767
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 1: the wrong way? Who did he rub somebody wrong way

768
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 1: in the meeting? Probably before? Have people left meetings and say, man,

769
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,479
Speaker 1: Dev's an a hole today? Yeah, because I love about

770
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 1: Mac as Matt came into a leadership role as a

771
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 1: quarterback and he speaks to what he thinks. He speaks

772
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:43,319
Speaker 1: about a man, I don't like this play. I want

773
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 1: to do this play. Same thing, you know, when I

774
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 1: was in there and when I'm in there and I'm like,

775
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 1: I don't like this play because we're the guys out

776
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 1: there and I think what people don't always understand, and

777
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 1: our locker room bill pushes that if you don't want something,

778
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 1: we're in the captains meeting every week. If you don't

779
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 1: like something, tell us we'll throw it out. Because what's

780
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 1: the point of players going out there and saying, as

781
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 1: soon as that call comes in, Mac wears a green down.

782
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 1: I wear it on defense. Who I hate when a

783
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 1: call comes in. I'm like, hey, fellas, I know we

784
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 1: hate this call, but the call is X y Z, Like,

785
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 1: no one wants to be out there with that. So

786
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 1: I think Mac has all the attangibles and the things

787
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 1: that you want in a quarterback. He's only his second year,

788
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 1: going this third year, third offensive coordinator. Hopefully, you know,

789
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,919
Speaker 1: Billio's there for a while and I think you'll see

790
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:30,399
Speaker 1: the true growth. So I don't really care about mac Jones.

791
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 1: But here's what I would say. I think I think

792
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 1: Devin mccordy just gave you his audition for Good Morning

793
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 1: Football when he retires. His brothers got the job. Now, well,

794
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 1: he's gonna be right there with him. Yeah, Devin is excellent.

795
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 1: Also represented by the Agent to the Stars, a good

796
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 1: friend of the program, Andy Simms. Still waiting on the Yes,

797
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 1: maybe it Indy, we'll see him. Oh you leave Wednesday night,

798
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:59,919
Speaker 1: he's coming to Wednesday night. Um, yeah, I think he's

799
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 1: he sounds he's out of great. Yeah, he's ready to go.

800
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 1: He's absolutely ready to go. Well, he's undecided on whether

801
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:06,800
Speaker 1: or not he's going to play another season. He's a

802
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 1: free agent. So the mccordy certainly one of the good

803
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:12,440
Speaker 1: ones and has made a had a tremendous career with

804
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 1: that team. Always a leader, always productive on the back

805
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:18,280
Speaker 1: end of that defense. Yeah, I mean, that's that dude.

806
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 1: Is that guy's ready both one way or another. He's

807
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 1: absolutely locked into that. We'll hit numbers two and one

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Speaker 1: to get it done, we get it done when it's

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00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 1: you know, when you need to be on coverage, not

838
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 1: blowing a coverage because you're up thirteen, you need to

839
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 1: not blow that coverage when you need to recover the

840
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 1: on side kick, you recover the onside kick. When you

841
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 1: could go out of bounds, you but and stop the clock,

842
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 1: or you could stay in bounds and keep the clock running.

843
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 1: You stay in bounds and keep the clock running. All

844
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:38,880
Speaker 1: the little things that add up to losses in the

845
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 1: National Football League we need to be better at and

846
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 1: then just quite frankly, when it comes down to it,

847
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 1: you know, when there is a chance to win it.

848
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:49,240
Speaker 1: I can think of and Kay did it against Carolina,

849
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 1: Jacoby did it against Carolina. But against the Chargers we

850
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 1: had a field goal at the end to win it,

851
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 1: missed field goal to tie in Baltimore blocked. We have

852
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 1: got to be clutch and when it matters the most,

853
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:05,760
Speaker 1: get the ball, you know, down at the end, figure

854
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 1: out a way. You're on defense with the lead at

855
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 1: the end, figure out a way. I think that is

856
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,800
Speaker 1: in the NFL. It's that belief that you're going to

857
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 1: come through. It's that clutch meter, that essence that we

858
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 1: just have not had. We had it in twenty twenty.

859
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,359
Speaker 1: We need to get it back. And that's how we

860
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 1: need to play. Because you've got to be good in

861
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 1: one score games. If you want to be successful in

862
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 1: this league, and that comes down to being clutch and

863
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:33,479
Speaker 1: making the plays when they are needed to be made.

864
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 1: I know, it's a how would you even describe that?

865
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:43,399
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a it's it's not tangible, right, So

866
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 1: that's that's that that it's it's leadership. It's leadership, it's

867
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:50,879
Speaker 1: disciplectionist comes from leadership, it comes from discipline of colds,

868
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 1: comes from accountability. Yep, right, that's what it comes from.

869
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 1: So when you when you are those things, then you

870
00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 1: will be clutch yep. You know. And it's interesting, like

871
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:04,359
Speaker 1: it doesn't really matter if you're coaching professionals or seven

872
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:08,399
Speaker 1: year olds like that you have. It's the accountability part

873
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:10,839
Speaker 1: of it. It's doing things over and over again. So

874
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 1: when it comes time to execute it, it's old hat.

875
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 1: And it's not being afraid of the moment. It's not

876
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 1: being afraid to You've got to just yeah, lean into it.

877
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 1: And I think it's that it's that swagger, it's that

878
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 1: emotional aspect of it. You're right, it's the accountability. It's

879
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 1: the just when it's time to put it all on

880
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 1: the line, you're able to do so, and to able

881
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 1: to do so at a high level to execute. I

882
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 1: mean that truly is what the word really is. It's

883
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 1: just execute. You need to execute when it matters the most,

884
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 1: to execute, period the end. Yeah, that's it, all right,

885
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 1: number one, number one, and we're gonna hear one the

886
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 1: h No. Shaun Watson's got to be a lade again

887
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 1: like the Uno. Yeah, great game, great game. You know,

888
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 1: no one's losing with Duno. Man. Yeah, but what happens.

889
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,880
Speaker 1: I don't know what happens in your household, but my

890
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 1: family tires of sometimes of my victories. And then like

891
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 1: in Uno, if you have people ganged up on you

892
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 1: on bolt like left and right, oh yeah, you can

893
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 1: just get crushed. I'll tell you. Another thing about Uno

894
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 1: that I think's been a real issue is I think

895
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,760
Speaker 1: there's way too many draw fours now, way too many.

896
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:29,719
Speaker 1: They used to be the haymaker. Yeah, you'd get like

897
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 1: three of them, two of them in a deck, and

898
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 1: it feels like there's a dozen, there's twenty. Yeah, and

899
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 1: they all end up oh Uno, Oh yeah, hair draw

900
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 1: four here, draw four. I'll say you got thirty eight cards.

901
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:41,840
Speaker 1: We're right back where we started building it, all the

902
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:45,320
Speaker 1: way back. That's too many, all right, number one. Building

903
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 1: it all the way back Deshaun Watson. I have one

904
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 1: hundred percent confidence that Deshaun Watson is going to end

905
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:53,240
Speaker 1: up being not just what he was in Houston twenty twenty,

906
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:55,799
Speaker 1: but better than that. Every quarterback who's played here under

907
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 1: Kevin Savanci has been better than they have been everywhere

908
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 1: else at any other time in their career. I think

909
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 1: that's gonna happen with John Watson. You're gonna hear he

910
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:08,320
Speaker 1: he knows what people are saying. He knows that people

911
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:10,840
Speaker 1: are kind of writing him in this team off again,

912
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 1: and you know what, that's a good place for us

913
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:16,839
Speaker 1: to be good. But this thing is ultimately all about

914
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:20,320
Speaker 1: scoring the football. And if Deshaun Watson is the Deshaun

915
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 1: Watson that he has shown in twenty twenty or a

916
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:25,720
Speaker 1: better version, that we are going to score the football

917
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 1: and we're gonna be very difficult to be period because

918
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 1: we've got so many other pieces. And that's what it's about.

919
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 1: It's what it's about. Quarterback League. Yeah, I'm glad you

920
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 1: went here at number one because it's really all that

921
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:42,359
Speaker 1: matters it really is it? Really? Like? Yeah, because if

922
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:45,760
Speaker 1: it happens, if that happens, so that he was second

923
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 1: through the first four years of his career. He's second

924
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 1: only to Dan Marino and touchdown pass his throne in

925
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 1: NFL history. Like that's who he is. Yeah, so number

926
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 1: one in completion percentage, he was top like in rating,

927
00:48:56,360 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 1: like just yea off the starts back to that. Back

928
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:04,760
Speaker 1: to that allows for clutch meter, allows for accountability, allows

929
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 1: for leadership, allows for all of it. It allows for

930
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 1: Now there's certain things from a personnel standpoint, speed receiver

931
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 1: would certainly help in that. Miles Garrett some help on

932
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 1: the defensive line, absolutely, that's gonna help with that. But

933
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:20,320
Speaker 1: at this you know, posticit center Jed Will's taking a step.

934
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 1: Every one of the ten they all help with that.

935
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:25,719
Speaker 1: But if number one ain't number one doesn't matter, then

936
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:28,880
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. And if number one is number one,

937
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 1: the other ones are kind of less important too. And

938
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:36,760
Speaker 1: he's gonna he will raise the water level significantly. Yeah,

939
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 1: and that's what we're looking for. That's what we need.

940
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what this season is about. You made

941
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 1: the move that the Browns did to get to Shaun Watson.

942
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:46,319
Speaker 1: The layoff has happened, He's gotten his feet weet but

943
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:48,439
Speaker 1: now everything in the offseason is going to be geared

944
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:49,840
Speaker 1: towards him. He don't need to half to be putting

945
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 1: in kind of two half offenses. It's gonna be the

946
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson offense with Kevin Stefanski and a VP and

947
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 1: Bill musk Grave and everybody else who's gonna be involved,

948
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:01,880
Speaker 1: and you're gonna get this thing. I think cooking. I mean,

949
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 1: there are some things that you want to add, no doubt,

950
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:06,879
Speaker 1: but you're gonna be cooking. Then I think that we

951
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 1: have an opportunity to be so good if this all

952
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 1: comes to fruition, and that's what it is. It's about

953
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:17,359
Speaker 1: number one. Number one is worth more than numbers two

954
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 1: through ten combined times a billion. You said it, brother,

955
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 1: it's the it's the whole. And the crazy thing about

956
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 1: it is is number one. We won't know until September,

957
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 1: right October, you know. I mean, it's gonna be a

958
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:30,440
Speaker 1: long wait for that. So the number one's like counting

959
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 1: to infinity twice, Like that's how important it is. What

960
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:40,439
Speaker 1: was Sabon's line, infinity plus one Yeah, same, yeah, same, same,

961
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 1: not no different. Had a great seafood tower this weekend,

962
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:47,359
Speaker 1: by the way, Yeah, oh, I didn't have to pay.

963
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:50,279
Speaker 1: Yeah you did, Yeah you did. No, it's what a

964
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:52,720
Speaker 1: treat for you? What a real treat? Yeah, good seafood.

965
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 1: The only thing that like, one's just quick seafood tower.

966
00:50:56,200 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 1: Comment for me is yeah, chilled king crab is good. Yeah,

967
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:04,360
Speaker 1: it's not as good as hot king crab. No. I

968
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:06,799
Speaker 1: think that's so about lobster. If you're gonna have it,

969
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:11,400
Speaker 1: let's have it hot or at least have the butter piping, right, Like,

970
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 1: what do you want? What do you want? A chilled

971
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:18,280
Speaker 1: seafood tower like shrimp cocktail or maybe some lump crab,

972
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:21,279
Speaker 1: some oysters perhaps, Yeah, but that's really all I want.

973
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 1: The other the kings, the king, Yeah, I want him hot,

974
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 1: I agree with. All Right. We mentioned this to Shaun

975
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 1: Watson with a podcast with his quarterback coach, Quincy Avery.

976
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:36,399
Speaker 1: We'll have some of the highlights of that coming up next.

977
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:38,319
Speaker 1: List to Cleveland Browns Daily brought you by baallely Bet

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981
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:03,080
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983
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson sat down with his long time private quarterback

984
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:14,840
Speaker 1: coach Quincy Avery last week on the podcast The Queue

985
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:17,879
Speaker 1: with Quincy Avery. Lots to get to here, We're gonna

986
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 1: get through a lot of it. Let's start with this.

987
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:23,799
Speaker 1: Here's Deshaun Watson recapping his first year with the Browns. Yeah,

988
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 1: it's tough, especially you know, with the situation. I came

989
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:29,719
Speaker 1: in later in the year. Everyone was three much in,

990
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 1: you know, so they were pretty much twelve weeks to

991
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 1: death into the teammate. So, you know, with me been

992
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:36,799
Speaker 1: in off season, I got the you know, trained with

993
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 1: him and practice with him here and there. But you know,

994
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:41,799
Speaker 1: but the situation going on, you know, seven Jacobe had

995
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:43,879
Speaker 1: to make sure he was prept up with the ones.

996
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 1: So I was taking a lot of scout team reps

997
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 1: and and try to you know, stand shaking bands and

998
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:49,840
Speaker 1: then once in await, you know, being able to do

999
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:51,959
Speaker 1: you grin. So you know, I was kind of thrown

1000
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:54,879
Speaker 1: into the fire. But uh, you know I felt that,

1001
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:57,399
Speaker 1: you know, I came in and did what I had today.

1002
00:52:57,520 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 1: Book two and three, you know we wanted more. Yeah,

1003
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:02,719
Speaker 1: I was tying used to finish better. But you know

1004
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:05,759
Speaker 1: it was up and down situation because I was just

1005
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 1: trying to get used to my teammates, used to the coaches,

1006
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 1: used to how you know, planning the AFC more, used

1007
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 1: to playing in the cold. All these different guys that

1008
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 1: out of Tai end just to make sure I'd stay

1009
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:19,279
Speaker 1: focused and try to help. Yeah, And when I think

1010
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 1: about that, to me, like like wearing something else's shoes

1011
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 1: or something like Jacoby was essentially the starting quarterback for

1012
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 1: like eleven or some weeks. How you feel like you're

1013
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:29,799
Speaker 1: getting thrown into an offense that was kind of tailor

1014
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:32,320
Speaker 1: made for him. Him and cav kind of a rhythm.

1015
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 1: They were doing their thing and then you kind of

1016
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:36,920
Speaker 1: get thrown into something that wasn't necessarily tailor fit for you.

1017
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 1: Or how does that feel? Do you feel like it

1018
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 1: was your offense? Or things change as you kind of

1019
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:43,759
Speaker 1: move forward? Oh, not out yet, they ain't changed. Uh,

1020
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. They had a tailor around Jacoba,

1021
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:48,879
Speaker 1: you know whatever. You know, Jacoba was comfortable with whatever

1022
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:50,319
Speaker 1: he was had to do with whatever it made him

1023
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 1: play his best that's what they had a tailor around,

1024
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 1: and I'm a different, you know, type of quarterback. You know, man,

1025
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 1: Jacoby does do a lot of similar things. We think

1026
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 1: a lot, but you know, with with a certain you know,

1027
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 1: third down runs and some RPOs. And then I loved

1028
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:06,800
Speaker 1: and death you can move better, Thanto, Kobe, that's you

1029
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 1: don't have to be So you Kobe wouldn't be mad

1030
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 1: if you said that you can move better. Night you go, yeah,

1031
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 1: maybe the first one to tell you time. Let's see

1032
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 1: a quarterback take off sixty yards. He's like, you know

1033
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 1: you can do that, right, I'm like, man, you should,

1034
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 1: but like, uh yeah, So we had it was a

1035
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 1: big change, and it was you know, mar and Kevin.

1036
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:29,759
Speaker 1: You know, honestly, it's it's both our times first time

1037
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 1: working together, you know what I'm saying. So that first

1038
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 1: week in Houston, like that's our first time trying to

1039
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:38,279
Speaker 1: pick something that I'm comfortable with, and like it was tough,

1040
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:40,239
Speaker 1: you know, especially in the middle of the season. Like

1041
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 1: they gotta coach differently than how they coached before I

1042
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 1: got They gotta call plays differently and how they called before.

1043
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 1: So it's a lot of different times. So I'm gonna

1044
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 1: give us. I like to give us credit words due sure.

1045
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 1: Two things I remember saying vividly on the show last

1046
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 1: August when this all was going down. I remember you

1047
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,400
Speaker 1: and I discussing it a great length. Number One, the

1048
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:01,040
Speaker 1: notion that he was going to be able to sit

1049
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 1: out eleven weeks and just jump right back on like

1050
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:07,839
Speaker 1: a maddened character was just never in play into thinking

1051
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 1: that it was was just not going to happen. You

1052
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 1: just can't be away from a team that long and

1053
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 1: jump right back on it. And the other thing that

1054
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:18,960
Speaker 1: you and I said pretty pretty strongly was I would

1055
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:21,279
Speaker 1: have him take every snap in the preseason. Now, I

1056
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 1: don't know if it would have made a dang bit

1057
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 1: of difference long term, but he got that little bit

1058
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:29,080
Speaker 1: of action against Jacksonville and then what's that I think

1059
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:30,920
Speaker 1: it would have made a difference. Well, that's why we

1060
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 1: said it. Yeah, we said it then, like give him

1061
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:36,839
Speaker 1: every snap and let him throw it every time. Yeah,

1062
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:41,800
Speaker 1: and it didn't. And so I think you saw just

1063
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 1: his comfort throwing the ball in a game and the

1064
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 1: speed and all of those things, how much that improved

1065
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:49,920
Speaker 1: just after the first one. Now, would he have had

1066
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 1: some rest in Houston. I think so, no matter what,

1067
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:55,360
Speaker 1: could it have been lessened. Certainly, I think that's possible.

1068
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:57,400
Speaker 1: And he just would have had so many more reps

1069
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:00,719
Speaker 1: playing actual football, you know he had. It was one

1070
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 1: series Anthony Shortz dropped eight passes and Nick Harris gets

1071
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 1: hurt and I think we fumbled during chance and I

1072
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:09,239
Speaker 1: think fumbled and it's like that was it. That was

1073
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 1: all the action that he got. So no, I think

1074
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 1: that look, what's done is done. What that season would

1075
00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 1: have been, I think once it got made eleven games, anyway,

1076
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:22,400
Speaker 1: the chances of that season being the dream season we wanted.

1077
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:27,879
Speaker 1: I think it was very challenging. So it probably doesn't

1078
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:30,640
Speaker 1: make a huge difference. But it's all now about this

1079
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 1: year and now you have a full off season. It's

1080
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 1: all behind you. Now it's time for him to go.

1081
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 1: And I think that you have an opportunity because Jacoby

1082
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:45,320
Speaker 1: and DeShawn are so different in what they do. Jacoby

1083
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 1: needed the completely structured offense and he was great at

1084
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:51,279
Speaker 1: seeing it, making the reads and taking the layups that

1085
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:54,360
Speaker 1: were given to him provided by this offense. DeShawn is

1086
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:57,439
Speaker 1: so supremely talented that you know, you need a little

1087
00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:00,200
Speaker 1: bit more of a freewheeling offense, and that's some thing

1088
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:03,839
Speaker 1: that there. Kevin's gonna have to think make some adjustments too,

1089
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:06,480
Speaker 1: And you know, you've got a VP to lean on

1090
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:08,799
Speaker 1: who's been with a guy like Aaron Rodgers who had

1091
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:12,440
Speaker 1: that supreme talent sometimes within but also outside of structure.

1092
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 1: And I think that you know, this SoundBite right here

1093
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 1: is very telling to me for Deshaun Watson and why

1094
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 1: some of the things were maybe more difficult than you

1095
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 1: might have expected. Sometimes taking things off of somebody's plate

1096
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 1: makes it actually tougher for them in the moment, because

1097
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:34,440
Speaker 1: when you're doing everything as the quarterback, you have that

1098
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 1: control and you're thinking through everything. Sometimes when you don't

1099
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:39,480
Speaker 1: have to think about some of the things, maybe your

1100
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 1: focus waynes and other areas. And so I think this

1101
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 1: is a very interesting one. Listen to Watson on how

1102
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 1: the Browns offense differs from the others he played with.

1103
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:49,360
Speaker 1: I think the big difference is, I think in this

1104
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:53,160
Speaker 1: offense by the quarterback tast control of it, but coaches

1105
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 1: have a lot of responsibility on it too. So you know,

1106
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:59,000
Speaker 1: in the previous offenses, quarterback did everything and I called

1107
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 1: the mic points, I called the run points. Are called

1108
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:06,120
Speaker 1: the potentians calling flipping the potential sliding here, calling our

1109
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 1: hearts everything. And this system is basically building. So when

1110
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:11,360
Speaker 1: you come up to the arms parents you're not really

1111
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 1: doing that. You can see it. You can hold a

1112
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:15,760
Speaker 1: rod the center, but pretty much the center directing everything.

1113
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 1: You just kind of make sure you do see the

1114
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 1: right coverage and you kind of it's kind of more

1115
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 1: simple in a sense, but simple as it's not always

1116
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 1: the best way to go sometimes, you know, because you

1117
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 1: might get side checking whatever you're supposed to be looking

1118
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 1: at in that certain pot So that one jumped out

1119
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:36,440
Speaker 1: to me when I heard all of these comments, that

1120
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:38,640
Speaker 1: one jumped out to me. And so that is and

1121
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 1: that's something you know, when we're in the comment we

1122
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:43,200
Speaker 1: talk with Kevin, I think that's something I would I'm

1123
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:48,920
Speaker 1: curious to ask him about because we know Brady, we

1124
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 1: know Peyton Manning, we know and you know, a VP

1125
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:53,800
Speaker 1: could probably tell us what it was like with Aaron

1126
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:58,400
Speaker 1: Rodgers in Green Bay. But that's typically what your guys do.

1127
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 1: They are you give them the play, they look at

1128
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 1: it and they set everything the way that they want

1129
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 1: it to be set. Now, in this offense, it has

1130
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:08,640
Speaker 1: all the different answers for everything that can happen because

1131
00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:11,160
Speaker 1: of the fact that you've got Bill Callahan and he

1132
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:15,600
Speaker 1: got Stefanski, and you know, this offense is run in

1133
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:18,520
Speaker 1: very much like a coordinated ballet, much like much like

1134
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 1: by the way Kyle Shanahan's. So I'm curious, in Kyle

1135
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:26,160
Speaker 1: Shanahan's offense, what responsibilities do the quarterback have visa vie

1136
00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:29,400
Speaker 1: you know ours visa vie the other ones that are

1137
00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:31,240
Speaker 1: just where the quarterback is the one making all the

1138
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:34,440
Speaker 1: calls and if your guy is I think you have

1139
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 1: to be open minded to the fact that, yes, we

1140
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 1: have run this precision offense and all of that, but

1141
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:41,920
Speaker 1: if our guy is more comfortable and is better when

1142
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 1: he is the one that's doing a lot of that stuff,

1143
00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:47,560
Speaker 1: we have to see if we can find that happy medium. Yes,

1144
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 1: because to your point number one, that's all that matters.

1145
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:53,280
Speaker 1: That's up right, it's him at the best infinitely where

1146
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:55,400
Speaker 1: you get to that end. Yeah, that one I took

1147
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 1: note of as well. Here's Watson how this season is

1148
00:59:58,120 --> 01:00:01,360
Speaker 1: different from last season starting week one that here's Watson

1149
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:05,080
Speaker 1: on that. I think just the aggressiveness of this how

1150
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:07,920
Speaker 1: we want to approach the season last year was a

1151
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:10,000
Speaker 1: lot of unknown, Like you said, the quarterbaver and we

1152
01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:11,960
Speaker 1: all knew, we all support each other, we all love

1153
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:14,160
Speaker 1: each other, we all friends of the day, and we

1154
01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 1: kind of knew was gonna come in, but we didn't

1155
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:19,760
Speaker 1: know how long. We didn't know whether gonna be eleven weeks,

1156
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:22,000
Speaker 1: because we're going to six weeks, we're gonna be zero weeks,

1157
01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like there was so much

1158
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:26,520
Speaker 1: of it was kind of unknown, and so it kind

1159
01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:28,840
Speaker 1: of put everybody on hold until we figured out a

1160
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:31,560
Speaker 1: week before and so not going into this week, we

1161
01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:33,440
Speaker 1: kind of have clarity. We can start from day one

1162
01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:35,960
Speaker 1: about all right, this is how we want to approaching who.

1163
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:38,320
Speaker 1: We need to find our playmakers who you know, this

1164
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:39,960
Speaker 1: is the way we learn our offense. This is the

1165
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:42,360
Speaker 1: way we want to call our offense. You want to

1166
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:44,440
Speaker 1: play fast, you want to play slow, no huddle, all

1167
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:46,440
Speaker 1: these things that we're doing. You know, we can kind

1168
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:48,880
Speaker 1: of already. It doesn't have you know, be ahead of

1169
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:53,439
Speaker 1: the game. That one. It's funny. You know it's not funny,

1170
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:55,320
Speaker 1: but it's it was the reality for those of us

1171
01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:57,320
Speaker 1: that were you know, like you and I doing the

1172
01:00:57,400 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 1: show through last offseason, through the summer, and then even

1173
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:04,640
Speaker 1: through camp, and I know from the outside it was like, well,

1174
01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:06,200
Speaker 1: of course he was going to be suspended for a

1175
01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:09,560
Speaker 1: long time. But we can tell you pretty emphatically that

1176
01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:11,480
Speaker 1: at the time of the trade that was not the

1177
01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:13,800
Speaker 1: thought and it was not the thought of the other

1178
01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:17,120
Speaker 1: teams that were involved in acquiring to Shaun Watson. Correct,

1179
01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:20,400
Speaker 1: eleven was not in the brochure. No, it was something

1180
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 1: that that in fact was when the initial ruling came out,

1181
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:28,360
Speaker 1: that was thought. And this isn't necessarily just this isn't

1182
01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:30,520
Speaker 1: even a Browns thing. This is how people who were

1183
01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:33,080
Speaker 1: involved with Watson thought six would have been towards the

1184
01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:37,800
Speaker 1: middle of the high end of it. Six was considered

1185
01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:41,800
Speaker 1: the worst case scenario. And then you got that from

1186
01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:47,560
Speaker 1: a federal judge and they're like, okay, like this is

1187
01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:50,439
Speaker 1: where it came out. But all right, seasons now longer.

1188
01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:52,640
Speaker 1: We still have eleven games. He's still gonna play almost

1189
01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:58,360
Speaker 1: twice as many games as he's going to miss too. Yeah, no,

1190
01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:04,120
Speaker 1: he's eleven. And that was out that day when he

1191
01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:10,400
Speaker 1: found out on the field. Yeah, it's it was crazy,

1192
01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:14,080
Speaker 1: and you knew right there how difficult it was going

1193
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:19,440
Speaker 1: to be for this season to be what we wanted

1194
01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:22,080
Speaker 1: to be. You believed, and you go to Carolina, you

1195
01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:24,480
Speaker 1: make a fifty eight yarder and you're like, you know what,

1196
01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:27,280
Speaker 1: maybe this is our year. And I'll be honest with you,

1197
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:30,840
Speaker 1: I know that we beat the Steelers after that Jets game,

1198
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:33,640
Speaker 1: But had we come through in that game against the

1199
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Speaker 1: Jets and we're three and ozer or is this season

1200
01:02:39,400 --> 01:02:41,080
Speaker 1: feels like it could be different because we could have

1201
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:43,720
Speaker 1: very easily been five and oh down in Atlanta and

1202
01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:47,360
Speaker 1: then the Chargers. But it just you knew what was

1203
01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:49,840
Speaker 1: gonna be a difficult season, no excuses. This seems still

1204
01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:53,640
Speaker 1: should have made the playoffs. I believe that. Yeah, yeah,

1205
01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:56,600
Speaker 1: but no, it was. It was just it was at

1206
01:02:56,640 --> 01:02:58,880
Speaker 1: that point and it was going to be gone, and

1207
01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:01,040
Speaker 1: you really gave it away. You gave it away. I mean,

1208
01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:04,320
Speaker 1: you gave week two. You know, they talk about when

1209
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:07,160
Speaker 1: you throw a pebble into the lake, even if it's

1210
01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:10,120
Speaker 1: a small one, the ripples ultimately get bigger and bigger

1211
01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:12,120
Speaker 1: as they go away. And the ripples, I think from

1212
01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:14,880
Speaker 1: that Week two I think we're feeling today. I think

1213
01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:18,520
Speaker 1: that you could look at Week two and say that

1214
01:03:20,080 --> 01:03:22,640
Speaker 1: is a big read that game probably played a very

1215
01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:24,200
Speaker 1: large role in the fact that we have a new

1216
01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:29,160
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator, a new special teams coordinator. Yeah, yep, don't

1217
01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:31,560
Speaker 1: I promise that Deshaun Watson is gonna have a new

1218
01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:34,720
Speaker 1: quarterback coach Drew Petsing off to Arizona. Here's Watson on

1219
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:38,680
Speaker 1: the Quincy Avery podcast, The que with Quincy Avery Podcast

1220
01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:41,800
Speaker 1: talking about the new quarterback coach situation. Yeah, I just can.

1221
01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:44,520
Speaker 1: I just can. ABP is still going to be in

1222
01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:49,160
Speaker 1: our own I just caving ad and and being able

1223
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:51,640
Speaker 1: to have two guys that you know, understand what I

1224
01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:54,680
Speaker 1: want to ask me questions that's very transparent. And I

1225
01:03:54,760 --> 01:03:57,400
Speaker 1: just want somebody that's a great teacher, you know, the

1226
01:03:57,480 --> 01:03:59,200
Speaker 1: I can line from you know, I wanted a guy

1227
01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:02,280
Speaker 1: I love it hard. And I'm pretty sure you said

1228
01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:05,440
Speaker 1: it before because you know you've been a kid. It's like,

1229
01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:08,760
Speaker 1: I like the coach that gets on my ass about

1230
01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:11,440
Speaker 1: a certain drill or a certain player or certain things

1231
01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:13,200
Speaker 1: like that. I don't, you know, the pat on the

1232
01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:15,120
Speaker 1: back of just all we get in that time, Like

1233
01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:16,920
Speaker 1: that's not really me. I like somebody I like to

1234
01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:19,800
Speaker 1: be coach hard because I'm I know how great I am.

1235
01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:22,320
Speaker 1: I know my standard, so being able to have that

1236
01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:24,000
Speaker 1: in the room is definitely going to be key. I

1237
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:26,360
Speaker 1: haven't talked to Kevin personal. I was supposed to be

1238
01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:29,360
Speaker 1: calling them soon, be trying to figure out the coaching situation.

1239
01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:32,120
Speaker 1: But I know whoever they did, it's going to be

1240
01:04:32,360 --> 01:04:34,480
Speaker 1: you know, That's what I want is a great teacher

1241
01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:37,920
Speaker 1: that I can learn from and that will coincide with

1242
01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:41,000
Speaker 1: this next one. This is Deshan on the Quincy Every

1243
01:04:41,040 --> 01:04:44,040
Speaker 1: podcast tokament what he expects the year to look like

1244
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:46,120
Speaker 1: on the field for him next season. But I think

1245
01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:48,360
Speaker 1: it's just gonna be worked. You know, people had so

1246
01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:51,720
Speaker 1: much expectations and high expectations, and you know, all that

1247
01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:54,280
Speaker 1: stuff generates from the media, So you know, I think

1248
01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:56,000
Speaker 1: I don't I don't take it. You know, sometimes I

1249
01:04:56,080 --> 01:04:58,560
Speaker 1: think a personal just dependence on you know, how they speaking.

1250
01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:00,840
Speaker 1: But like most of the time, I don't really take

1251
01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:02,640
Speaker 1: a personal because that's their job in the media is

1252
01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:05,320
Speaker 1: to be able to kind of talk good, bad, whatever

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Speaker 1: they want to talk about. But when I look at

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Speaker 1: it that way, people thinking that, oh I feel a lot,

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Speaker 1: But you know this that the third you know what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, all it is is they know how good

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01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:15,960
Speaker 1: I am, and they know the limited am. So if

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Speaker 1: I don't, you know, reach that standard and the expectation

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Speaker 1: of myself and what I can play at, then of

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Speaker 1: course it's gonna be a failing, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: So for me, it's really what's going ahead and putting

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Speaker 1: the work each and every day. You know, I'm not

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Speaker 1: worrying about all that stuff. You know, I hear it,

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Speaker 1: I see it. But that's the thing about all of me.

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Speaker 1: That's what they that's their job, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: I like when people underestimate me, you know, because when

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Speaker 1: let's happen, you know, that's when I you know, I

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01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:40,200
Speaker 1: take it to a whole another level. So with me

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01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:42,520
Speaker 1: coming into this year, from from day one, I gotta

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01:05:42,560 --> 01:05:44,640
Speaker 1: go hard. I gotta train hard, you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: and have everybody around me at the same level. And

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Speaker 1: once we do that, we can make something special for food.

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Speaker 1: And I feel like we got the team, we got

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Speaker 1: the people, and we just gotta filling the pieces. And

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Speaker 1: once we get wrong and all of that is stuff

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Speaker 1: that will wait for for x fall. Yes, but he

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Speaker 1: love the mentality, love the tone, Yeah, love the tone, love,

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Speaker 1: the mentality. And this is a guy that when he has,

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Speaker 1: you know, at every level, been determined to be successful.

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Speaker 1: He has, yeah, and he's even done it at this level.

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Speaker 1: This is not just so well. He won a national

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Speaker 1: championship in college the Clemson. He's taken the Texans of

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. He saw what they were without him. He

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Speaker 1: is He is that guy and that's exactly what we

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01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:33,120
Speaker 1: need him to be again. And if he is, we

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Speaker 1: are going to be in it's going to be a

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Speaker 1: very very fun season. Indeed, it will. In terms of

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Speaker 1: other issues this team needs to get addressed this offseason.

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Speaker 1: The PF guys Steve Palazzolo Sam Monson will join on

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Speaker 1: that coming up next. She was to cleve them Browns

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Speaker 1: PFF's NFL podcast was Tee Balazzelo and Sam Monson. Here's

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Speaker 1: those two talking about the Browns plans this offseason. What

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Speaker 1: are we gonna do with the Browns? Here? Deshaun Watson

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01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:37,800
Speaker 1: forty six million dollars per year, it's locked in. Yeah,

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01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:40,720
Speaker 1: we know what's happening. It's guaranteed. You're stuck with it.

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01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:43,040
Speaker 1: Now you need to make sure he plays well. It's

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Speaker 1: a tough one with the Browns because, like, what what

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Speaker 1: do you assume out of Watson as a player going forward?

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01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:49,840
Speaker 1: He had a fifty five grade no idea this year,

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01:07:50,360 --> 01:07:53,560
Speaker 1: and is you were you were rightfully asking is he

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01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:57,000
Speaker 1: going to be rusty? But you know that that implies like, hey,

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01:07:57,040 --> 01:07:58,680
Speaker 1: maybe the first few games will be rough and then

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Speaker 1: he'll figure it out. And there was no pattern to

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01:08:01,120 --> 01:08:03,400
Speaker 1: his play either. It was it was just up and

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Speaker 1: down and terrible. YEP. Overall. So let's assume. Let's assume

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Speaker 1: Watson with an offseason of you know, getting ready to

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Speaker 1: play football, he's going to be better. We've got a quarterback,

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Speaker 1: you have a Marie Cooper out there at receiver. You've

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Speaker 1: got a good solid offensive line, as they always have

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01:08:18,320 --> 01:08:21,560
Speaker 1: and they're they're pretty well locked up. Defensive side of

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Speaker 1: the ball is going to be a huge focus, new system,

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Speaker 1: new whole deal. And it felt like the Browns neglected

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Speaker 1: the defensive line a little bit. They just they solved

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Speaker 1: it late last year. I think this offseason the Browns

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01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:36,000
Speaker 1: are going to solve defensive line much earlier, both in

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Speaker 1: free agency and in the draft. Yeah. I mean they

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01:08:38,040 --> 01:08:40,799
Speaker 1: need to give Miles garrettson health. It's been Miles Garrett

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Speaker 1: on his own playing as well as any defender in

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Speaker 1: the NFL over the last few years, and nobody knows.

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Speaker 1: Really that's not that nobody knows, but what compared with TJ.

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01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:55,280
Speaker 1: Watt and Michael Parsons and Nick Bosa, like, Miles Garrett

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01:08:55,280 --> 01:08:58,800
Speaker 1: has always seen as this like secondary player because he

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01:08:58,920 --> 01:09:01,320
Speaker 1: doesn't have enough help around him for his impact to

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Speaker 1: actually get the recognition it should. Like the number of

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Speaker 1: plays he leads the NFL in those plays that we track,

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Speaker 1: those pass rush wins that don't get a chance to

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Speaker 1: become pressure because something else happens in the play, the

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Speaker 1: balls out, it's gone, somebody else gets to cover or whatever.

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Speaker 1: He leads the league in those for like the last

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Speaker 1: couple of years straight, and that happens because the rest

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Speaker 1: of that defensive line is garbage. You need to give

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01:09:25,760 --> 01:09:28,600
Speaker 1: him some players that can actually help him out, and

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01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:31,960
Speaker 1: you will see not only will it make the defensive

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01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:35,519
Speaker 1: line better because those players will make an impact themselves,

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Speaker 1: but they'll also enhance the impact that Miles Garrett has,

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01:09:39,560 --> 01:09:42,800
Speaker 1: Like you will notice what he does more because it

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01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:45,760
Speaker 1: has a chance to make a bigger impact. So, I mean,

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01:09:45,800 --> 01:09:48,240
Speaker 1: we're talking the last couple of years. They've done this

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01:09:48,360 --> 01:09:50,759
Speaker 1: by just kind of like waiting out Jadavian Clowney grabbing

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01:09:50,800 --> 01:09:52,400
Speaker 1: him for seven or eight million a year on one

1348
01:09:52,479 --> 01:09:55,880
Speaker 1: year contracts. Looks like that's even soured. They need edge defenders,

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Speaker 1: they need interior defensive linemen. I think in the draft

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Speaker 1: they don't pick till pick forty two. They're missing their

1351
01:10:00,120 --> 01:10:04,519
Speaker 1: first rounder thanks to Deshaun Watson Ciake Eco from Baylor,

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01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:08,000
Speaker 1: big monster nose tackle who can move pretty well. He's

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Speaker 1: at fifty five right now on the PFF draft board.

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Speaker 1: I think he could be a potential early round draft pick.

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01:10:13,360 --> 01:10:17,000
Speaker 1: Here's the deal. I like the Brown's strategy of how

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01:10:17,080 --> 01:10:20,839
Speaker 1: they've handled the defensive interior third rounders here, fourth rounders

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01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:24,760
Speaker 1: there Taven Bryan for you know, a few million, but

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Speaker 1: I think that ended up catching up to I think

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01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:29,400
Speaker 1: tactically it was the right move, but it was just this,

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01:10:29,840 --> 01:10:31,559
Speaker 1: it was bad weakness. It was just a bad weakness

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01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:33,679
Speaker 1: that got exploited week to week. I do think they're

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Speaker 1: going to need to invest on the interior a little

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Speaker 1: bit more. We've talked about guys like David an Yamada,

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Speaker 1: Sheldon Rankins, but do you even go to higher price

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Speaker 1: type of interior defensive linemen here to solve this issue.

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Speaker 1: They're a team that doesn't look like they have a

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Speaker 1: lot of camp space, but they're one of those sides

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Speaker 1: that can free up a ton of room. So they actually,

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01:10:54,280 --> 01:10:57,080
Speaker 1: what are they right now? They are fifteen million in

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Speaker 1: the whole, fifteen million in the red, but they can

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01:10:59,720 --> 01:11:01,840
Speaker 1: free up an absolute ton of money, so they with

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Speaker 1: restructures and all those kinds of things, so they have

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Speaker 1: the ability to spend if they want to do it

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Speaker 1: in free agency. Looks like Dron Payne is going to

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Speaker 1: get franchise tag. That was a report today. We missed

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Speaker 1: that yesterday on the show. We didn't have that report

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Speaker 1: at the time, so he's probably not going to be

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01:11:18,240 --> 01:11:20,840
Speaker 1: in the market. Javon Hargrave is presuming you going to

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01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:23,920
Speaker 1: get a ton of money simply by virtue of Baseki

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01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:27,719
Speaker 1: being the only plus end player at that kind of position.

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01:11:28,960 --> 01:11:32,880
Speaker 1: But I think they can or should add some guys

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01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:36,520
Speaker 1: before you get to the draft and give you the flexibility.

1383
01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:39,200
Speaker 1: But there aren't a ton of options that are going

1384
01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:42,280
Speaker 1: to make a big impact. So that Jim Schwartz is

1385
01:11:42,280 --> 01:11:43,960
Speaker 1: coming in to run the defense too. I mean that

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01:11:44,120 --> 01:11:47,120
Speaker 1: he loves Russian four, he loves winning with four, and

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01:11:47,160 --> 01:11:48,519
Speaker 1: he's going to look at this D line. I mean

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01:11:48,600 --> 01:11:50,479
Speaker 1: he's going to be pushing for, like, give me four

1389
01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:53,960
Speaker 1: guys interior edge whatever. Are the Browns a team that

1390
01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:56,320
Speaker 1: could make a splash with a Marcus Davenport, top edge

1391
01:11:56,320 --> 01:11:57,960
Speaker 1: defender on the market. Are they a team that might

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01:11:58,520 --> 01:12:01,920
Speaker 1: fork that money over and say, look, we've neglected D line.

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01:12:03,160 --> 01:12:06,519
Speaker 1: We theoretic, we always discussed this very theoretical coverage vers

1394
01:12:06,560 --> 01:12:08,760
Speaker 1: pass rushing, blah blah blah. But if you have a

1395
01:12:08,920 --> 01:12:11,800
Speaker 1: coach that truly wants to rush for all the time,

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01:12:11,880 --> 01:12:13,880
Speaker 1: you have to be better up front. Would you go

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01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:17,200
Speaker 1: to the Marcus Davenport who could be you know, could

1398
01:12:17,240 --> 01:12:18,639
Speaker 1: be on the verge of a breakout if he stays

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Speaker 1: on the field. As we've highlighted a couple of times

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Speaker 1: on the show. Yeah, potentially, Um, they also need to

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Speaker 1: focus with that in mind on you know, pass rushing

1402
01:12:27,160 --> 01:12:29,880
Speaker 1: defensive lineman. Guys that can actually penetrate, get up field,

1403
01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:33,200
Speaker 1: cause problems. And there are another team that maybe maybe

1404
01:12:33,240 --> 01:12:35,320
Speaker 1: it doesn't start for them, but as a rotational guy

1405
01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:38,720
Speaker 1: guy Matt and Ionias can get pressure like that's been

1406
01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:41,559
Speaker 1: his specialty in the NFL so far, So maybe that's

1407
01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:43,760
Speaker 1: a guy they can bring in at least guarantee some

1408
01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:48,280
Speaker 1: rotational situational heat upfront. So look, they're gonna attack defensive line.

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Speaker 1: I would I don't know if I would consider Davenport

1410
01:12:52,040 --> 01:12:54,559
Speaker 1: if I was the Browns, I'd be tempted, though, knowing

1411
01:12:54,640 --> 01:12:57,160
Speaker 1: where they've been and what they what they need to

1412
01:12:57,200 --> 01:12:59,559
Speaker 1: do upfront there. Their back seven is all locked up

1413
01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:01,040
Speaker 1: for at least this year. You want to add some

1414
01:13:01,120 --> 01:13:04,240
Speaker 1: depth and everything. But Martin Emerson had a really nice

1415
01:13:04,240 --> 01:13:06,519
Speaker 1: season last year. Denzil Awards still there for five years.

1416
01:13:06,560 --> 01:13:08,559
Speaker 1: Greg Newsom has been a good first round pick for them.

1417
01:13:09,400 --> 01:13:11,000
Speaker 1: They're solid on the back end. I think it's a

1418
01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:15,720
Speaker 1: year of all defensive line for the Browns offensively, they

1419
01:13:15,760 --> 01:13:17,960
Speaker 1: got to figure out center. Four fifths of their offensive

1420
01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:21,960
Speaker 1: line is back center? Is you know a place they

1421
01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:24,519
Speaker 1: have to look? And then as always, I have to

1422
01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:27,439
Speaker 1: look at receiver. Is a Marie Cooper plus Donovan, People's Jones,

1423
01:13:27,560 --> 01:13:32,120
Speaker 1: David Bell, Anthony Schwartz. Is that enough at receiver? Or

1424
01:13:32,120 --> 01:13:34,120
Speaker 1: are they another team that needs to bring someone else

1425
01:13:34,200 --> 01:13:37,400
Speaker 1: in there to compliment a Mari in company? Yeah? I

1426
01:13:37,439 --> 01:13:40,280
Speaker 1: mean again, keep swinging. The other thing is like a

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Speaker 1: Marie Cooper seems to have a shelf life in the

1428
01:13:42,680 --> 01:13:46,040
Speaker 1: NFL for whatever reason, within teams, Like within the teams,

1429
01:13:46,200 --> 01:13:48,679
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, he makes every team that he steps

1430
01:13:48,680 --> 01:13:51,479
Speaker 1: onto better and they tire of it quite quickly. I

1431
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:53,439
Speaker 1: don't know why. I don't know if this is a thing,

1432
01:13:54,360 --> 01:13:56,719
Speaker 1: you know, Amari Cooper pisses them off behind the scenes,

1433
01:13:56,760 --> 01:13:59,720
Speaker 1: if it's a personality thing, if it's a He's good

1434
01:14:00,240 --> 01:14:02,680
Speaker 1: great type of thing, and ultimately they just sour on

1435
01:14:02,680 --> 01:14:04,400
Speaker 1: the amount of money that they have tied up with him.

1436
01:14:04,439 --> 01:14:08,160
Speaker 1: But whatever it is, Amari Cooper has now been kicked

1437
01:14:08,200 --> 01:14:11,600
Speaker 1: out of two teams and is on his third, and

1438
01:14:11,800 --> 01:14:13,479
Speaker 1: you can kind of see how that could end up,

1439
01:14:14,040 --> 01:14:16,720
Speaker 1: you know, within a couple of years being the end

1440
01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:19,000
Speaker 1: of the road for him in Cleveland. It just it

1441
01:14:19,080 --> 01:14:20,720
Speaker 1: would be smart, I think to have some kind of

1442
01:14:20,760 --> 01:14:24,640
Speaker 1: Amari Cooper insurance working away in the background, even if

1443
01:14:24,640 --> 01:14:26,400
Speaker 1: you don't need it for a couple of years. So again,

1444
01:14:27,640 --> 01:14:30,880
Speaker 1: it's draft wide receivers. There we go eight draft picks

1445
01:14:30,920 --> 01:14:33,840
Speaker 1: for the Browns, first ones at forty two overall. Yes,

1446
01:14:33,960 --> 01:14:35,920
Speaker 1: take swings at receiver and take a bunch of swings

1447
01:14:35,960 --> 01:14:39,360
Speaker 1: on the defensive line this offseason. They could be in

1448
01:14:39,400 --> 01:14:42,000
Speaker 1: the market for center in the draft as well. I

1449
01:14:42,040 --> 01:14:45,200
Speaker 1: don't know if they'll let it go that far. John

1450
01:14:45,280 --> 01:14:47,559
Speaker 1: Michael Schmitz is a great prospect out of Minnesota. He's

1451
01:14:47,560 --> 01:14:49,800
Speaker 1: at fifty two on the PFF draft board. Could be

1452
01:14:49,880 --> 01:14:52,679
Speaker 1: a fit there at forty two where the Browns draft

1453
01:14:52,720 --> 01:14:54,600
Speaker 1: if they want to fill that specific need. If they

1454
01:14:54,640 --> 01:15:01,479
Speaker 1: get there in the draft, anything else, Brown's wise build

1455
01:15:01,520 --> 01:15:03,880
Speaker 1: around to Shaun Watson. Hope that he's better. I hope

1456
01:15:03,920 --> 01:15:06,479
Speaker 1: that he's better. Yes, If he isn't, you've got real problems.

1457
01:15:06,600 --> 01:15:08,960
Speaker 1: We've talked a lot about how they keep adding running backs.

1458
01:15:09,280 --> 01:15:12,120
Speaker 1: They do have Nick Chubb, plus Kareem Hunts now free

1459
01:15:12,160 --> 01:15:14,439
Speaker 1: agent Dernis Johnson free agent, so they do probably need

1460
01:15:14,479 --> 01:15:17,240
Speaker 1: to add some depth there as well. But mid rounds

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01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:19,280
Speaker 1: good spot to find a Nick Chubb back up there

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01:15:19,320 --> 01:15:23,320
Speaker 1: as well. Yep, all right, Browns, there's your strategy for

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01:15:23,400 --> 01:15:27,160
Speaker 1: this offseason. Go get some defensive lineman and maybe play

1464
01:15:27,439 --> 01:15:31,000
Speaker 1: in the Marcus Davenport market. All right, there you go.

1465
01:15:31,840 --> 01:15:34,559
Speaker 1: There's the Fellaw's plan for the off season. We'll see

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01:15:34,600 --> 01:15:37,360
Speaker 1: how it all comes to fruition and and you know,

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01:15:37,439 --> 01:15:39,800
Speaker 1: it's one of those things gonna be an interesting couple

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01:15:39,800 --> 01:15:42,040
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks, to say the least. We will

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01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:45,639
Speaker 1: do our all AFC South roster coming up next. We've

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01:16:19,520 --> 01:16:21,479
Speaker 1: been doing this for every division around the NFL. We

1481
01:16:21,600 --> 01:16:25,160
Speaker 1: are doing the All AFC South roster right now. And

1482
01:16:25,680 --> 01:16:29,280
Speaker 1: what I would like is for you to read the

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01:16:29,439 --> 01:16:33,400
Speaker 1: names listed at quarterback for us to consider for the

1484
01:16:33,520 --> 01:16:40,519
Speaker 1: All AFC South quarterback position per the prep sheet. I

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01:16:40,600 --> 01:16:42,680
Speaker 1: will do that for you right now. By the way,

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01:16:42,760 --> 01:16:44,920
Speaker 1: huge emission on the prep sheet on the quarterback spot,

1487
01:16:44,960 --> 01:16:46,400
Speaker 1: but in something well, how could there be on the

1488
01:16:46,479 --> 01:16:49,880
Speaker 1: quarterback spot? Literally there? Go ahead, just read it for

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01:16:49,920 --> 01:16:53,160
Speaker 1: the people. For the people, all right. We have got

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01:16:54,120 --> 01:17:04,000
Speaker 1: Sam Ellinger, Nick Foles, Kyle Allen, Matt Ryan Sure, Davis Mills,

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01:17:05,080 --> 01:17:11,879
Speaker 1: Malik Willis, Ryan Tannehill, and then our AFC South quarterback

1492
01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:15,720
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence. What I want to know from either not

1493
01:17:15,880 --> 01:17:21,840
Speaker 1: Stevie or Gibbe is why stop there? Why if if

1494
01:17:21,840 --> 01:17:23,760
Speaker 1: you're if Sam ell if you're going that far, if

1495
01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:25,400
Speaker 1: you want to make a case for Nick Foles and

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01:17:25,439 --> 01:17:29,519
Speaker 1: Sam Ellinger, where was Josh Dobbs, Where's Dobbs? Where's the

1497
01:17:29,560 --> 01:17:34,560
Speaker 1: guy Dobbs? Do the scout? Do the scout? Do the

1498
01:17:34,760 --> 01:17:39,000
Speaker 1: uh the practice squad? There? Those started games everybody on

1499
01:17:39,040 --> 01:17:42,200
Speaker 1: this list started a game. You could have done one name, Yeah,

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01:17:42,280 --> 01:17:47,040
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence. Sixty six percent completions, four eighteen yards, thirty touchdowns,

1501
01:17:47,080 --> 01:17:49,400
Speaker 1: thirteen picks, went to the Pro Bowl, no doubt. All right,

1502
01:17:49,640 --> 01:17:52,080
Speaker 1: Uh running back, Now this is where it's actually a

1503
01:17:52,280 --> 01:17:55,360
Speaker 1: darn good division. Every really has an excellent starting running back.

1504
01:17:55,400 --> 01:17:58,559
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry and Tennessee, Jonathan Taylor and Indie, Damian Pearson

1505
01:17:58,600 --> 01:18:00,400
Speaker 1: Houston and Travis et n and Jack. So this is

1506
01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:02,360
Speaker 1: a good it's good for that Henry. Are we doing

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01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:04,559
Speaker 1: two of these guys or three or one? Just one?

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01:18:05,040 --> 01:18:07,280
Speaker 1: Just one? Yeah, we could do two and just do

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01:18:07,400 --> 01:18:09,920
Speaker 1: two receivers, because where do you pink? Where do you put?

1510
01:18:10,040 --> 01:18:14,160
Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor's season coming off of the season he had,

1511
01:18:14,760 --> 01:18:16,400
Speaker 1: he just couldn't get going like he was. He was

1512
01:18:16,439 --> 01:18:19,160
Speaker 1: the number one pick in almost every fantasy draft, was terrible,

1513
01:18:19,479 --> 01:18:22,320
Speaker 1: and it was terrible. Yeah, Jonathan Taylor, it was. It

1514
01:18:22,479 --> 01:18:24,639
Speaker 1: was not a good year. I mean, he wouldn't even

1515
01:18:24,680 --> 01:18:28,320
Speaker 1: be I think he would be fourth in No, I

1516
01:18:28,360 --> 01:18:30,120
Speaker 1: think it's Henry and Etien is who I would have.

1517
01:18:30,360 --> 01:18:36,439
Speaker 1: But because etten, we could shift out to the slot. Right.

1518
01:18:36,600 --> 01:18:38,800
Speaker 1: Taylor ended this year eight hundred and sixty one yards,

1519
01:18:38,840 --> 01:18:44,160
Speaker 1: four touchdowns. Yeah, I mean, Damian Pierce had a had

1520
01:18:44,200 --> 01:18:46,040
Speaker 1: a solid season. I think because of the injury he

1521
01:18:46,160 --> 01:18:48,280
Speaker 1: ended up short. He was at nine thirty nine and

1522
01:18:48,360 --> 01:18:53,080
Speaker 1: four touchdowns. And then you had right Etn who if

1523
01:18:53,200 --> 01:18:54,800
Speaker 1: if we were doing I think I'm fine with that.

1524
01:18:54,920 --> 01:18:57,840
Speaker 1: Let's do two running backs and Eaton play some in

1525
01:18:57,880 --> 01:19:00,160
Speaker 1: the slot for us. We don't need three receivers, not

1526
01:19:00,200 --> 01:19:03,439
Speaker 1: with this group, Not with this group. No. So Travis

1527
01:19:03,479 --> 01:19:06,760
Speaker 1: et N this year eleven twenty five yards rushing, five touchdowns,

1528
01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:09,639
Speaker 1: three hundred and sixteen yards receiving. You ever's over five yards? Scary?

1529
01:19:09,680 --> 01:19:11,920
Speaker 1: So yeah, I like that. So how does it age

1530
01:19:12,120 --> 01:19:14,960
Speaker 1: that urban Meyer was mad that he had to pick

1531
01:19:15,040 --> 01:19:19,559
Speaker 1: Travis Eten because Cadarius Tony was already picked. Not well,

1532
01:19:20,720 --> 01:19:25,400
Speaker 1: not well even that well, the guy we wanted to pick, well,

1533
01:19:25,439 --> 01:19:26,760
Speaker 1: the guy you wanted to pick is not the as

1534
01:19:26,800 --> 01:19:28,519
Speaker 1: good as the guy you did pick. He's not even

1535
01:19:28,560 --> 01:19:32,120
Speaker 1: on the team that drafted him anymore, not even all

1536
01:19:32,240 --> 01:19:37,519
Speaker 1: right receivers in the AFC South Kirk's obviously in um,

1537
01:19:37,880 --> 01:19:41,000
Speaker 1: we already did guess the stats, Gibbey on that, who's

1538
01:19:41,040 --> 01:19:44,000
Speaker 1: the second one here? I think it's Zay Jones nine

1539
01:19:44,120 --> 01:19:46,960
Speaker 1: hundred eighty yards and six touchdowns. Michael Pittman would be third,

1540
01:19:47,080 --> 01:19:49,559
Speaker 1: nine twenty five and only four touchdowns. But I'm gonna

1541
01:19:49,560 --> 01:19:53,519
Speaker 1: go Pittman. I'm gonna go Pittman over Jones because of

1542
01:19:53,560 --> 01:19:57,040
Speaker 1: who was thrown to him. It's hard for me to

1543
01:19:57,080 --> 01:20:01,000
Speaker 1: put call somebody an All AFC South Ide receiver when

1544
01:20:01,200 --> 01:20:03,760
Speaker 1: I don't care who was throwing to them. When they

1545
01:20:03,840 --> 01:20:05,800
Speaker 1: averaged less than ten yards of catch in the end,

1546
01:20:06,040 --> 01:20:11,840
Speaker 1: that's brutal. Nine point something. I mean, yeah, that's a

1547
01:20:11,960 --> 01:20:15,040
Speaker 1: brutal quarterback list. Throwing to him though, Yeah, but I

1548
01:20:15,080 --> 01:20:18,679
Speaker 1: mean Matt Ryan and Nick Foles are reasonable. He average

1549
01:20:18,760 --> 01:20:21,200
Speaker 1: nine yards of catch. I mean he was like, yeah,

1550
01:20:21,560 --> 01:20:23,799
Speaker 1: I think we gotta go z eight Jones there. Brandon

1551
01:20:23,840 --> 01:20:26,160
Speaker 1: Cooks probably would have made it if he played all year,

1552
01:20:26,280 --> 01:20:30,040
Speaker 1: but he missed too much. Calvin Ridley count calvityear next year,

1553
01:20:31,479 --> 01:20:35,800
Speaker 1: all right, tight end. Evan Ingram, I mean this list

1554
01:20:35,880 --> 01:20:39,160
Speaker 1: is it's a lot of Jacksonville. Yeah, Evan Ingram eighty

1555
01:20:39,200 --> 01:20:41,599
Speaker 1: five catches, eight hundred and nine yards, five touchdowns. Nobody

1556
01:20:41,600 --> 01:20:46,000
Speaker 1: else was even close to that at all. Yeah, I'll

1557
01:20:46,040 --> 01:20:49,360
Speaker 1: rely on your expertise. Entirely on the offensive line. Ben

1558
01:20:49,520 --> 01:20:52,760
Speaker 1: Jones from Tennessee is a pro bowler. He gets there.

1559
01:20:52,920 --> 01:20:55,640
Speaker 1: The guards. Quentin Nelson and then Nate Davis had a

1560
01:20:55,680 --> 01:20:57,880
Speaker 1: phenomenal year for the Tennessee Titans. Nelson was a pro

1561
01:20:57,960 --> 01:21:01,559
Speaker 1: bowler tackles, Laramie Tons and then Braden Smith of Indie.

1562
01:21:01,640 --> 01:21:04,559
Speaker 1: He had the second best year as a as a tackle.

1563
01:21:04,760 --> 01:21:08,200
Speaker 1: It's borderline jarring going from I think the last one

1564
01:21:08,280 --> 01:21:10,759
Speaker 1: we did was the NFC East, Yeah, which was loaded

1565
01:21:10,920 --> 01:21:14,439
Speaker 1: to go from that to this division. I mean, this

1566
01:21:14,560 --> 01:21:16,840
Speaker 1: is the worst division in football. Well, when we go

1567
01:21:17,160 --> 01:21:20,120
Speaker 1: to the All AFC team, which we're gonna do after

1568
01:21:20,160 --> 01:21:24,840
Speaker 1: we do all the divisions, Derrick Henry has a chance

1569
01:21:24,920 --> 01:21:29,120
Speaker 1: to be on that team. Uh, Laramie Tunsel I think

1570
01:21:29,200 --> 01:21:30,639
Speaker 1: has a chance to be on that team, and Quintin

1571
01:21:30,680 --> 01:21:32,360
Speaker 1: Nelson has a chance to be on that team. That's it.

1572
01:21:32,520 --> 01:21:35,680
Speaker 1: That's the list. Well, there's nobody here one. I mean,

1573
01:21:35,720 --> 01:21:39,599
Speaker 1: this defense, the defense is the worst, it is the worst. Well,

1574
01:21:39,680 --> 01:21:43,439
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Simmons maybe, I'm pretty sure Jeffrey Simmons was was

1575
01:21:45,080 --> 01:21:48,040
Speaker 1: certainly either first or second team All Pro. That was

1576
01:21:48,080 --> 01:21:50,840
Speaker 1: one of those remember we're talking about him, Yeah, He's

1577
01:21:50,880 --> 01:21:52,599
Speaker 1: been second team All Pro e to the last two

1578
01:21:52,680 --> 01:21:55,479
Speaker 1: years and Pro Bowler each the last two years. But

1579
01:21:55,720 --> 01:21:57,760
Speaker 1: that was one where they had luxury drafted him. This

1580
01:21:57,960 --> 01:21:59,840
Speaker 1: is another one where there's not even an edge rusher.

1581
01:22:00,120 --> 01:22:03,479
Speaker 1: Ten sacks in this division will go on the interior

1582
01:22:03,520 --> 01:22:06,439
Speaker 1: of the defensive line Buckner and Simmons, which isn't bad actually,

1583
01:22:07,080 --> 01:22:10,000
Speaker 1: But like the edges, Simmons isn't even listed on this list.

1584
01:22:10,160 --> 01:22:13,000
Speaker 1: Of course I wrote him in. It's a huge, egregious oversight.

1585
01:22:15,320 --> 01:22:18,000
Speaker 1: He's the best player on defense in the division period.

1586
01:22:18,120 --> 01:22:23,040
Speaker 1: Full st not didn't make the list. Part did Roy

1587
01:22:23,160 --> 01:22:30,200
Speaker 1: Lopez is on the list? A guy named Grover Simmons.

1588
01:22:30,320 --> 01:22:33,120
Speaker 1: No Bucker and Simmons in the middle five, which is great.

1589
01:22:33,520 --> 01:22:37,400
Speaker 1: That's great U defensive end. How did Trayvon Walker do

1590
01:22:37,439 --> 01:22:40,800
Speaker 1: the number one pick in last year's draft? He wasn't great,

1591
01:22:41,040 --> 01:22:42,840
Speaker 1: and in fact, a lot of people are saying it's

1592
01:22:42,880 --> 01:22:44,720
Speaker 1: a little bit of a disappointment in terms of what

1593
01:22:44,840 --> 01:22:49,920
Speaker 1: you got out of Treyvon Walker. He finished the season

1594
01:22:50,000 --> 01:22:53,040
Speaker 1: with three and a half sacks, five tackles for lost,

1595
01:22:53,080 --> 01:22:57,719
Speaker 1: ten quarterback hits, one interception, one force fumble. Not great. Cheez,

1596
01:22:59,240 --> 01:23:02,479
Speaker 1: Where do we go? Here at d ends in Gockway

1597
01:23:02,560 --> 01:23:05,120
Speaker 1: had nine and a half sacks for Indie. Jerry Hughes,

1598
01:23:05,160 --> 01:23:08,679
Speaker 1: the veteran at nine for Houston. Josh Allen was probably

1599
01:23:08,800 --> 01:23:10,920
Speaker 1: was the highest graded at ProFootball Focus. He had Allan

1600
01:23:11,000 --> 01:23:14,880
Speaker 1: probably so probably Allan and Gockway. Yeah, and then the

1601
01:23:15,000 --> 01:23:17,839
Speaker 1: other one that maybe has a chance is Denico Autry

1602
01:23:18,479 --> 01:23:22,800
Speaker 1: had I think a career. He had eight sacks, but

1603
01:23:23,960 --> 01:23:27,479
Speaker 1: not much. No, it's the worst edge Russian group there is.

1604
01:23:27,520 --> 01:23:29,880
Speaker 1: So we're gonna go. We'll go in Gockway and we'll go.

1605
01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:32,760
Speaker 1: You want to go Josh Allen or Hughes. Let's go Allan, Yeah,

1606
01:23:32,880 --> 01:23:39,280
Speaker 1: go Josh Allen. Okay, Yeah, Okay, linebacker, we're doing. We

1607
01:23:39,400 --> 01:23:42,679
Speaker 1: need two of these guys for crying out loud. Devin

1608
01:23:42,800 --> 01:23:46,640
Speaker 1: Lloyd in Jacksonville. I like Christian Kirksey. I don't know

1609
01:23:46,680 --> 01:23:47,840
Speaker 1: if he played with the damn but he's a hell

1610
01:23:47,840 --> 01:23:49,360
Speaker 1: of a human. I would put him on the list

1611
01:23:49,960 --> 01:23:52,160
Speaker 1: because we like him. I almost put on to put money.

1612
01:23:52,200 --> 01:23:54,960
Speaker 1: Mitchen in corner. He got my honorable mentioned put him in.

1613
01:23:55,120 --> 01:23:57,519
Speaker 1: What do I care? Look at this group. Stingley's one

1614
01:23:57,640 --> 01:23:59,680
Speaker 1: of the most future. He's how did he do in

1615
01:23:59,760 --> 01:24:05,360
Speaker 1: your one up and down, not the greatest, not the

1616
01:24:05,439 --> 01:24:08,800
Speaker 1: worst on his team. It feels like in terms of

1617
01:24:08,960 --> 01:24:12,360
Speaker 1: basically all different stats, he was outplayed by Desmond King,

1618
01:24:12,400 --> 01:24:14,880
Speaker 1: who would be the slot here. The best corner in

1619
01:24:14,960 --> 01:24:17,840
Speaker 1: the division this year was Tyson Campbell, who was the

1620
01:24:17,920 --> 01:24:21,080
Speaker 1: first pick of the second round out of Georgia under Urban.

1621
01:24:21,680 --> 01:24:25,560
Speaker 1: He had a phenomenal season to Tyson Campbell. So the Jaguars,

1622
01:24:25,640 --> 01:24:29,880
Speaker 1: despite Urban had a pretty good draft. Feels that way. Yeah,

1623
01:24:31,200 --> 01:24:32,800
Speaker 1: feels that way, which I don't think he was all

1624
01:24:32,840 --> 01:24:35,960
Speaker 1: that involved in. Tyson Campbell had three picks, a double

1625
01:24:36,000 --> 01:24:41,560
Speaker 1: digit PBUs. Stefan Gilmour would be the other one, and

1626
01:24:41,680 --> 01:24:44,320
Speaker 1: then in the slot, Desmond King, I think would make it.

1627
01:24:44,880 --> 01:24:50,200
Speaker 1: You're talking about your boy Stingley. He didn't give up

1628
01:24:50,240 --> 01:24:54,960
Speaker 1: a touchdown this year, which is good, but he didn't

1629
01:24:55,040 --> 01:24:56,800
Speaker 1: great out well. He had a lot of catches and

1630
01:24:56,920 --> 01:25:00,400
Speaker 1: yards and only had one pick this year. Think he's

1631
01:25:00,400 --> 01:25:02,360
Speaker 1: going to be something very special, but I think probably

1632
01:25:02,439 --> 01:25:04,599
Speaker 1: right now, you would have done Campbell, Gilmour and Desmond

1633
01:25:04,680 --> 01:25:06,240
Speaker 1: King in the slot if you're doing it based on

1634
01:25:06,320 --> 01:25:10,479
Speaker 1: this year. Jeez, this is a brutal spot man. Their terre.

1635
01:25:10,640 --> 01:25:13,760
Speaker 1: It's awful. And even as I'm peaking ahead at safety's

1636
01:25:14,080 --> 01:25:16,400
Speaker 1: I mean all the way through safety is not bad

1637
01:25:16,439 --> 01:25:18,600
Speaker 1: because Bayard's one of the best free he lifts in

1638
01:25:18,640 --> 01:25:21,800
Speaker 1: the game. Yeah. And then you actually had a very

1639
01:25:21,960 --> 01:25:27,240
Speaker 1: nice season this year from Jalen Petrie in Houston had

1640
01:25:27,280 --> 01:25:32,200
Speaker 1: five picks, including one against US. Yeah. Yeah, and this

1641
01:25:32,320 --> 01:25:35,639
Speaker 1: division is there for the taking. Oh god, Yeah, anybody

1642
01:25:35,840 --> 01:25:38,280
Speaker 1: well that Jags are gonna I mean, Jacks na running

1643
01:25:38,320 --> 01:25:40,000
Speaker 1: this forever. Houston has a chance, I think, to get

1644
01:25:40,160 --> 01:25:44,320
Speaker 1: very good quickly Indy two if they get their quarterback. Yeah. Absolutely,

1645
01:25:44,720 --> 01:25:49,280
Speaker 1: Houston's got the advantage. Agnew's a decent returner, punter's kickers,

1646
01:25:49,320 --> 01:25:54,840
Speaker 1: who cares. Yeah, this is the worst division football man, Well,

1647
01:25:54,920 --> 01:25:58,000
Speaker 1: this are the NFC South. NFC South is going to

1648
01:25:58,040 --> 01:25:59,840
Speaker 1: be pretty bad. But at least, like you could try,

1649
01:26:00,600 --> 01:26:03,439
Speaker 1: there are still players of they're still individual players. And

1650
01:26:03,560 --> 01:26:06,639
Speaker 1: the defense just on from Carolina and Tampa alone will

1651
01:26:06,680 --> 01:26:09,240
Speaker 1: be better than this. Yeah, and there's some there's some

1652
01:26:09,439 --> 01:26:12,439
Speaker 1: you know, there's some guys in Carolina. Even sure it's

1653
01:26:12,479 --> 01:26:14,280
Speaker 1: a better team like that team you would try to

1654
01:26:14,439 --> 01:26:17,160
Speaker 1: that team would beat this team. Yeah. The overall lack

1655
01:26:17,240 --> 01:26:21,720
Speaker 1: of talent in this in this division is pretty stunning, dreadful.

1656
01:26:22,040 --> 01:26:24,840
Speaker 1: They actually had a pretty good draft. Who who was

1657
01:26:24,880 --> 01:26:27,599
Speaker 1: the who's the coroner and Jackson or the general manager?

1658
01:26:27,640 --> 01:26:31,040
Speaker 1: And Jackson when Urban was the coach? Wasn't it super

1659
01:26:31,120 --> 01:26:35,479
Speaker 1: Dave Osborne? Wasn't it Bulky? I think it was. I

1660
01:26:35,560 --> 01:26:38,360
Speaker 1: think it was Trent Bulky. I mean that's pretty good

1661
01:26:38,720 --> 01:26:45,880
Speaker 1: to go Lawrence, ettn Campbell. Yeah, let's see. Yeah, Bulky

1662
01:26:46,000 --> 01:26:51,120
Speaker 1: was the GM. He still is the gym, so he's stuck. Yeah,

1663
01:26:51,640 --> 01:26:55,200
Speaker 1: he's stuck. Yeah, those three are I mean, that's pretty

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01:26:55,200 --> 01:26:57,080
Speaker 1: good three pa. I mean, you can't screw up Lawrence.

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01:26:57,520 --> 01:27:00,679
Speaker 1: They almost tried, but they're they're drafting was actually decent.

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01:27:00,720 --> 01:27:03,040
Speaker 1: They they're pretty loaded up. Trayvan Walker is going to

1667
01:27:03,080 --> 01:27:06,120
Speaker 1: be the big one though, I mean, because it would

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01:27:06,120 --> 01:27:10,360
Speaker 1: have been like Hutchinson was sitting right there and was

1669
01:27:10,400 --> 01:27:12,200
Speaker 1: pretty dang good, but it was almost like he was

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01:27:12,240 --> 01:27:14,800
Speaker 1: predisposed to go to Detroit. Say, you could have taken

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01:27:14,840 --> 01:27:17,840
Speaker 1: Sauce Gardner. Yeah, I mean, all right, So here's the

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Speaker 1: Jags drafts the last two years. Let's see, I want

1673
01:27:24,880 --> 01:27:29,400
Speaker 1: all their drafts, all right. Twenty twenty one, you took

1674
01:27:31,840 --> 01:27:37,479
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence in the first round. ETN in the first round. Yeah,

1675
01:27:37,680 --> 01:27:41,280
Speaker 1: picked twenty five, Tyson Campbell picked thirty three. He's played,

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01:27:41,479 --> 01:27:44,760
Speaker 1: he's been very good. Walker Little a tackle in the

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01:27:44,800 --> 01:27:47,759
Speaker 1: second round, who's played twenty six games for you. Andre

1678
01:27:47,920 --> 01:27:49,799
Speaker 1: Cisco in the second round, who's been a good safety

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01:27:49,840 --> 01:27:51,439
Speaker 1: for them. Actually, Yeah, that was a good pick out

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01:27:51,479 --> 01:27:54,880
Speaker 1: of Syracuse. J Two fall a defensive tackle, Jordan Smith,

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01:27:55,000 --> 01:27:58,439
Speaker 1: Luke Farrell, Jalen camp So nothing much more beyond that

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01:27:58,640 --> 01:28:01,320
Speaker 1: the top of that's nice though, Yeah, Tod, that's nice. Yet,

1683
01:28:01,360 --> 01:28:02,920
Speaker 1: and then this year, give me the first and second

1684
01:28:03,000 --> 01:28:08,120
Speaker 1: rounders last year. This year you got in the first round,

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01:28:08,560 --> 01:28:12,960
Speaker 1: Tryvan Walker, and then you got Devin Lloyd. Devin Lloyd's good. Yeah,

1686
01:28:14,479 --> 01:28:17,120
Speaker 1: Luke Fortner, a guard who played all seventeen games, Chad

1687
01:28:17,200 --> 01:28:20,200
Speaker 1: Muma linebacker, give you sixteen games, Snoop Connor, running back,

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01:28:20,640 --> 01:28:23,679
Speaker 1: Greg Junior, Montereic Brown. But they really had two ones,

1689
01:28:23,720 --> 01:28:25,640
Speaker 1: two threes, and then a five to six seven. All right,

1690
01:28:26,280 --> 01:28:28,599
Speaker 1: so much more to come. Yeah, listen to Clevean Brown's

1691
01:28:28,640 --> 01:28:30,240
Speaker 1: Daily brought you by belly Bet coming soon to Ohio

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Speaker 1: and eight fifty ESPN Cleveland. Cleveland Brown's Daily brought to

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Speaker 1: fifty ESPN Cleveland. Well tomorrow, my friend, we will be

1695
01:28:50,520 --> 01:28:53,320
Speaker 1: an indie. I know. I can't wait. By the way,

1696
01:28:53,400 --> 01:28:55,720
Speaker 1: just in case people are wondering, give a little give

1697
01:28:55,760 --> 01:29:00,840
Speaker 1: a little update here, give a right now. Harassing me

1698
01:29:00,960 --> 01:29:04,240
Speaker 1: via text, we're up to thirty nine point three thousand,

1699
01:29:04,320 --> 01:29:06,280
Speaker 1: so we've gone up thirteen hundred today. We need if

1700
01:29:06,280 --> 01:29:08,559
Speaker 1: we do that every day this week, we'll make it. Yeah,

1701
01:29:08,960 --> 01:29:11,439
Speaker 1: but we need to, like, we need to keep this

1702
01:29:11,600 --> 01:29:15,120
Speaker 1: momentum going. I'm holding out for my swag. You can

1703
01:29:15,200 --> 01:29:17,600
Speaker 1: gap swag if we make it. There a pushback. No,

1704
01:29:17,680 --> 01:29:19,680
Speaker 1: I don't want it from you. I'll get it for you.

1705
01:29:19,680 --> 01:29:23,639
Speaker 1: You're you're good, you've done. You and the the equipment

1706
01:29:23,960 --> 01:29:27,400
Speaker 1: manager of the Stars, the boss man BM, We're good.

1707
01:29:27,920 --> 01:29:30,760
Speaker 1: It's nothing. So you were here right when we saw

1708
01:29:30,880 --> 01:29:33,559
Speaker 1: him walking around in our hoodie but with no logo.

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01:29:33,600 --> 01:29:36,560
Speaker 1: I just a play yeah, and we've I said, you

1710
01:29:36,840 --> 01:29:39,080
Speaker 1: put that logo on there right now. That's right, You've

1711
01:29:39,120 --> 01:29:41,360
Speaker 1: earned that you do that. And so it is. It

1712
01:29:41,520 --> 01:29:43,920
Speaker 1: is happening. I'm told it's possible that we will be

1713
01:29:45,040 --> 01:29:47,320
Speaker 1: We're breaking them out for all of the NFL to see.

1714
01:29:47,400 --> 01:29:50,720
Speaker 1: Tomorrow I would say that's more than possible, more more

1715
01:29:50,840 --> 01:29:53,559
Speaker 1: likely than not. Yeah, but that's how that'll go. It's

1716
01:29:53,560 --> 01:29:57,240
Speaker 1: a happening mind soon. That's right. It is all right brother.

1717
01:29:57,720 --> 01:30:00,639
Speaker 1: We are live in Indie tomorrow at the NFL Combine.

1718
01:30:00,680 --> 01:30:03,160
Speaker 1: The next level is coming up next. Thanks for listening, everybody.

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