WEBVTT - Ep 05: Good For The Brief 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:04.720 The following episode contains mature themes and imagery. Listener discretion 0:00:04.920 --> 0:00:20.080 is advised. From iHeart Podcasts. This is Supreme The Battle 0:00:20.120 --> 0:00:28.920 for Row Against to Wait, starring Maya Hawk and William H. 0:00:29.000 --> 0:00:30.800 Macy. 0:00:30.800 --> 0:00:34.240 Appreciate whenever you are ready, mister Chief Justice and Maya 0:00:34.320 --> 0:00:35.000 pleased the Court. 0:00:36.159 --> 0:00:44.559 Episode five. Good for the brief, Ladies and gentlemen. 0:00:44.680 --> 0:00:47.120 We've now beg on our initial descent and in Dallas. 0:00:47.200 --> 0:00:48.400 We hope you enjoyed your flight. 0:00:48.640 --> 0:00:55.680 Thank you for flying with us today. Need a ride. 0:00:55.400 --> 0:01:01.400 Stranger, Dev? 0:01:02.080 --> 0:01:03.200 What are you doing here? 0:01:03.560 --> 0:01:03.840 Sorry? 0:01:03.920 --> 0:01:05.920 I didn't have time to make one of those signs 0:01:05.920 --> 0:01:06.880 with your name on it. 0:01:07.480 --> 0:01:08.840 He told me what flight you were on. 0:01:08.959 --> 0:01:10.199 Thought you could use a lift? 0:01:10.520 --> 0:01:15.000 Really? Yes, really, Sarah? Why is everyone always so surprised 0:01:15.000 --> 0:01:15.680 that I'm nice? 0:01:17.319 --> 0:01:18.080 How is the flight? 0:01:19.360 --> 0:01:21.679 I don't have a lot to compare it to, but bumpy, 0:01:22.640 --> 0:01:24.399 I do not intend to get back on one of 0:01:24.400 --> 0:01:25.960 those things for a long time. 0:01:26.880 --> 0:01:28.080 And how is New York? 0:01:28.360 --> 0:01:31.120 Pete say as good as they say pizza? 0:01:31.920 --> 0:01:33.039 Is that really what you want to know? 0:01:33.120 --> 0:01:33.320 Dev? 0:01:33.680 --> 0:01:35.720 I'm just making conversations, Sarah. 0:01:36.160 --> 0:01:37.680 Just say whatever you came to say, Dev. 0:01:37.840 --> 0:01:39.160 I know you're going to anyway. 0:01:39.360 --> 0:01:40.800 And what do I want to say. 0:01:41.280 --> 0:01:43.800 You'll probably start with it I told you so you 0:01:43.840 --> 0:01:46.600 were right not to trust Roy Lucas. Then maybe you'll 0:01:46.600 --> 0:01:48.760 want to call me a coward, maybe a quitter, a 0:01:48.800 --> 0:01:51.240 trader to the cause, and whatever other insults you can 0:01:51.320 --> 0:01:51.600 think of. 0:01:52.040 --> 0:01:55.480 Okay, being surprised I'm nice is one thing, assuming I'm 0:01:55.560 --> 0:01:56.880 just waiting to insult you. 0:01:57.360 --> 0:01:58.320 Is actually there. 0:01:58.200 --> 0:01:59.280 Was no decision to make. 0:01:59.360 --> 0:02:00.360 It was made for me. 0:02:00.480 --> 0:02:01.639 I was kicked off the case. 0:02:01.920 --> 0:02:05.280 M keep telling yourself that you never want me on 0:02:05.320 --> 0:02:07.640 this case anyway. Deb you judge me from the start. 0:02:08.360 --> 0:02:10.280 You didn't think I was radical enough. But let me 0:02:10.280 --> 0:02:12.760 guess now that Roy Lucas is taken over, you're just 0:02:12.880 --> 0:02:15.359 positive the case needs to be handled by a lady lawyer, 0:02:15.720 --> 0:02:18.280 no matter how unradical she is not. 0:02:18.520 --> 0:02:20.920 Just to be clear, I haven't said any of that, Sarah. 0:02:21.320 --> 0:02:24.440 You have, but I know you dead. Oh wow, Look 0:02:24.480 --> 0:02:28.160 who's judging now? I can see you're mad, Sarah. And 0:02:28.200 --> 0:02:31.079 you know what mad I can relate to. Who's ever 0:02:31.120 --> 0:02:31.680 fighting for. 0:02:31.680 --> 0:02:34.239 Us has to be mad, big mad, and have skin 0:02:34.320 --> 0:02:37.880 in the game. Roy Lucas is a damn good lawyer. 0:02:38.280 --> 0:02:41.040 I believe you, and I'm sure he'd like to win 0:02:41.120 --> 0:02:44.440 this thing. It's another notch on his bedpost. But here's 0:02:44.480 --> 0:02:48.119 the difference. He'd like to win. We need to win. 0:02:48.600 --> 0:02:51.200 Roy has experienced Deb the case will be safe in 0:02:51.240 --> 0:02:51.720 his hands. 0:02:51.919 --> 0:02:53.840 Well, if it wasn't safe in yours, you should have 0:02:53.880 --> 0:02:56.480 told us that before. Now you already won in the 0:02:56.520 --> 0:02:58.760 lower court, Sarah, I believe in going in with the 0:02:58.800 --> 0:02:59.400 hot hand. 0:03:00.160 --> 0:03:01.040 Just past our exit? 0:03:01.080 --> 0:03:03.960 You know, Deb, did you hear me? 0:03:04.520 --> 0:03:05.680 This isn't the way to my house? 0:03:05.800 --> 0:03:06.760 Where are we going? 0:03:07.560 --> 0:03:08.640 Just come with me today? 0:03:09.160 --> 0:03:10.600 Where what's going on? 0:03:10.880 --> 0:03:13.040 A few weeks ago you assigned be me and other 0:03:13.080 --> 0:03:15.320 girls from the group to collect stories. 0:03:15.280 --> 0:03:16.200 For the supporting briefs. 0:03:16.280 --> 0:03:17.000 Yeah, has that going? 0:03:17.240 --> 0:03:19.359 We need to submit them to the Supreme Court before argument. 0:03:20.120 --> 0:03:22.080 M Look who's interested? 0:03:22.600 --> 0:03:23.960 So you haven't quit the case? 0:03:24.160 --> 0:03:26.880 No, Deb, I haven't quit the case. Roy's become in 0:03:26.960 --> 0:03:29.440 lead counsel. He'll be the one to argue in court. 0:03:29.480 --> 0:03:32.160 But I plan on assisting him. However, I can great. 0:03:32.360 --> 0:03:36.520 Then come with me, you can assist to collect stories. 0:03:37.320 --> 0:03:38.400 I just cut off the plane. 0:03:38.560 --> 0:03:39.840 I haven't even seen rong yet. 0:03:39.920 --> 0:03:43.720 Sarah. You're acting like you have a choice. I'm driving, Deb. 0:03:44.080 --> 0:03:47.040 Come on, you've been give me crep since day one. 0:03:47.360 --> 0:03:49.320 You know, I just did this for the legal experience. 0:03:49.600 --> 0:03:51.119 Time to let the professionals take over. 0:03:51.200 --> 0:03:52.600 You should be doing backflips. 0:03:53.120 --> 0:03:58.960 Uh huh? 0:03:59.000 --> 0:03:59.640 Where are we? 0:04:00.600 --> 0:04:01.960 This is the nicest neighborhood. 0:04:02.400 --> 0:04:04.600 I got those girl's name from someone I spoke to 0:04:04.680 --> 0:04:05.920 at the referral service. 0:04:06.120 --> 0:04:16.520 You'll see. 0:04:16.760 --> 0:04:18.279 Hi are you deb? 0:04:18.720 --> 0:04:21.000 I am, and this is Sarah Weddington. 0:04:21.440 --> 0:04:22.280 Nice to meet you both. 0:04:22.680 --> 0:04:27.200 I'm call me Polly. Come on in my mother's outs. 0:04:27.360 --> 0:04:28.320 Your timing is perfect. 0:04:29.680 --> 0:04:31.800 Get you anything. I made some lemonade. 0:04:32.120 --> 0:04:33.080 I'm fine, Thank you. 0:04:33.560 --> 0:04:37.880 Lemonade would be great. Polly. Thanks your friend Annie told 0:04:37.880 --> 0:04:39.719 me you might be willing to talk to Sarah and 0:04:39.760 --> 0:04:40.960 me about your situation. 0:04:41.480 --> 0:04:43.000 Annie said I could trust you too. 0:04:43.360 --> 0:04:46.440 You can. We're putting together a case for the Supreme Court. 0:04:46.680 --> 0:04:48.520 I know, but I can't testify. 0:04:48.880 --> 0:04:51.400 There are no witnesses in the Supreme Court. Actually, we 0:04:51.480 --> 0:04:54.320 send them a long documents story called briefs. The more 0:04:54.360 --> 0:04:56.120 pertinent stories we can include about the women of the 0:04:56.160 --> 0:04:57.119 law effects the better. 0:04:57.320 --> 0:05:00.360 We just want to hear your story, Polly, or may 0:05:00.400 --> 0:05:01.680 take some notes if that's okay. 0:05:02.160 --> 0:05:05.920 Are you an assistant on the case. Missus Whittington. 0:05:08.440 --> 0:05:14.040 Yeah, I guess so. So Polly isn't your real name. 0:05:14.080 --> 0:05:18.320 I take it. Annie said you wouldn't need my name. 0:05:18.640 --> 0:05:20.760 We don't. Polly'll do just fine. 0:05:21.360 --> 0:05:24.640 I'd lose my job. You can't let anyone know I 0:05:24.720 --> 0:05:26.680 spoke to you. My daddy's a lawyer. 0:05:26.920 --> 0:05:28.400 If you try to pin this on me. 0:05:28.920 --> 0:05:31.080 No one's trying to pin anything on you, Poullie, not 0:05:31.240 --> 0:05:34.360 on anyone. Pseudonyms work for us for the brief. Long 0:05:34.400 --> 0:05:36.920 as all the other details are accurate, your real name 0:05:36.960 --> 0:05:38.400 will be kept under lock and key. 0:05:38.520 --> 0:05:39.160 I promise. 0:05:40.440 --> 0:05:41.760 I'm sorry to be so. 0:05:43.680 --> 0:05:46.240 It's just the way I've been treated all this time. 0:05:47.000 --> 0:05:51.039 Let's just say I don't have any illusions anymore. But 0:05:51.160 --> 0:05:52.960 you didn't expect to see a girl like me in 0:05:53.000 --> 0:05:53.680 this situation. 0:05:54.279 --> 0:05:55.680 What kind of girl is that, Polly? 0:05:56.520 --> 0:05:56.960 I don't know. 0:05:57.680 --> 0:05:59.960 I was a cheerleader. Daddy's a lawyer. 0:06:00.680 --> 0:06:04.279 All types of girls need abortions. Polly, you got nothing 0:06:04.320 --> 0:06:05.200 to be ashamed about. 0:06:05.600 --> 0:06:09.039 See the diaphragm failed. You believe that? 0:06:10.000 --> 0:06:14.239 And I was not gonna keep my professor's baby ruin 0:06:14.360 --> 0:06:18.640 my life just because a stupid rubber disc got dislodged. 0:06:19.160 --> 0:06:20.160 How far along were you. 0:06:20.720 --> 0:06:24.000 I'd only missed one period, but enough to start panicking. 0:06:24.560 --> 0:06:26.719 I tried to find a doctor, but no one would 0:06:26.760 --> 0:06:30.520 even talk to me. So I came up with an idea. 0:06:31.240 --> 0:06:34.360 I figured if I started the job, a doctor would 0:06:34.400 --> 0:06:35.560 have no choice. 0:06:35.240 --> 0:06:36.080 But to finish it. 0:06:36.520 --> 0:06:38.400 If you turn up at the hospital and show them 0:06:38.400 --> 0:06:40.479 you're bleeding, they have to take care of you. 0:06:40.960 --> 0:06:41.800 That's the law. 0:06:42.480 --> 0:06:45.960 My aunt Irene wasn't as smart as me. I was 0:06:46.080 --> 0:06:48.839 not going to be like her. I wasn't gonna rely 0:06:48.960 --> 0:06:51.080 on the knitting needle and then just try to tough 0:06:51.120 --> 0:06:54.640 it out. That's how you end up did You must 0:06:54.880 --> 0:06:58.000 must get a doctor involved to kind of clean it up. 0:06:58.440 --> 0:07:02.320 So I was just gonna get it started. It hurt 0:07:02.560 --> 0:07:04.160 so much, I. 0:07:04.120 --> 0:07:07.080 Swear it felt like I was a soldier getting stitched 0:07:07.160 --> 0:07:10.400 up on a field with no anesthesia. Just gritted my 0:07:10.440 --> 0:07:13.720 teeth and did what it had to be done. I 0:07:13.720 --> 0:07:16.520 called the taxi. I told the cab driver not to 0:07:16.600 --> 0:07:19.000 take me to the Cavolic hospital, to go to the 0:07:19.000 --> 0:07:20.400 one on Wisconsin instead. 0:07:20.960 --> 0:07:24.440 But I'm not great with blood, and there was a 0:07:24.480 --> 0:07:27.400 lot of it, big streak of blood on the taxi seat. 0:07:27.480 --> 0:07:31.160 Actually, I was so embarrassed I was back there trying 0:07:31.200 --> 0:07:33.920 to wipe it up with my skirt. But I was dizzy. 0:07:34.720 --> 0:07:36.640 I was so worried I was going to bleed out. 0:07:36.800 --> 0:07:39.840 Right in the back of this man's cab. I almost fainted. 0:07:40.720 --> 0:07:42.720 Luckily the cab driver was a. 0:07:42.720 --> 0:07:46.200 Kind man, tells me to put my head back, talks 0:07:46.240 --> 0:07:49.200 to me the whole time, wanted to keep me awake. 0:07:50.040 --> 0:07:51.760 He said he had a daughter my age. 0:07:52.360 --> 0:07:55.200 When we got there, I fell right out of the car, 0:07:55.640 --> 0:07:56.680 hit my head on the curb. 0:07:57.520 --> 0:08:03.320 The nurses came running. Remember a lot after that, except. 0:08:05.120 --> 0:08:09.680 Except what one nurse was pretty darn cruel whispered to 0:08:09.720 --> 0:08:11.880 one of the others that I was going to hell. 0:08:12.840 --> 0:08:14.800 She doesn't need to tell me I'm going to hell. 0:08:15.160 --> 0:08:19.200 I'm Catholic, I know that, but that's another day's worry. 0:08:19.960 --> 0:08:23.240 So it's fair to say your faith complicated the decision 0:08:23.240 --> 0:08:25.000 about how to handle the unloaded pregnancy. 0:08:25.840 --> 0:08:30.560 No, Missus Weddington, it simplified it. Being Catholic is what 0:08:30.720 --> 0:08:33.680 drove me to getting it done. My mother actually said 0:08:33.679 --> 0:08:36.400 a few years ago, if you get pregnant, dear, have 0:08:36.520 --> 0:08:38.520 it taken care of and don't ever let me know 0:08:38.559 --> 0:08:41.959 about it. Mother's desperate for me to marry us in 0:08:42.600 --> 0:08:45.920 marry up. She wants me to marry a boy named Perry, 0:08:46.120 --> 0:08:47.840 actually Protestant. 0:08:47.880 --> 0:08:50.600 To Perry. She'd die if she knew I. 0:08:50.600 --> 0:08:54.120 Had an abortion, and my Jewish professor's abortion at that. 0:08:54.880 --> 0:08:58.480 But she'd extra die if I turned up pregnant, my 0:08:58.559 --> 0:09:01.560 big belly window and all her dreams a social climate. 0:09:03.920 --> 0:09:05.920 I'm gonna get some water. Can I get you to 0:09:06.080 --> 0:09:06.680 anything more? 0:09:07.280 --> 0:09:09.160 We actually need to go in a minute. 0:09:08.880 --> 0:09:12.280 Polly, I'll just be a sec My throat is suddenly 0:09:12.320 --> 0:09:18.600 so dry. 0:09:20.840 --> 0:09:23.000 I can't believe I'm the one saying this. But your 0:09:23.000 --> 0:09:26.800 bedside manner could use some work, Sarah, So it's fair 0:09:26.840 --> 0:09:29.640 to say your faith complicated your decision about how to 0:09:29.679 --> 0:09:33.360 handle your unwanted pregnancy. Come on, she's a scared twenty 0:09:33.400 --> 0:09:35.720 year old. Talk to her like a human being. 0:09:36.360 --> 0:09:38.240 We need to think like the non male judges who 0:09:38.240 --> 0:09:40.760 will be reading this dep We need to pretend we're 0:09:40.760 --> 0:09:42.720 cross examining her if we want these briefs to have 0:09:42.800 --> 0:09:45.240 any weight, because you know what the justices will be 0:09:45.280 --> 0:09:49.280 thinking that she seduced her professor, got pregnant, could have 0:09:49.360 --> 0:09:50.680 kept the baby and raised it with a man with 0:09:50.720 --> 0:09:52.679 a stable job, or given it up for adoption. But 0:09:52.720 --> 0:09:54.600 mostly what they'll be thinking is there that she should 0:09:54.640 --> 0:09:56.360 have kept her legs closed if she didn't want to 0:09:56.400 --> 0:09:59.400 get pregnant. Sounds like she had a consensual affair and 0:09:59.440 --> 0:10:01.520 then just turn it the human life growing inside her 0:10:01.559 --> 0:10:03.240 because her mom would have been embarrassed. 0:10:04.240 --> 0:10:06.240 Wow, I'm not saying that's. 0:10:06.080 --> 0:10:08.400 What I think, Dad, But what I think isn't relevant. 0:10:09.040 --> 0:10:11.840 I went to a Methodist college, just like Polly's not 0:10:11.920 --> 0:10:13.320 a lot of clothes legs, Sarah. 0:10:13.520 --> 0:10:16.160 Everybody's doing it isn't a strong legal argument. 0:10:15.920 --> 0:10:18.400 Deb I was just telling you the truth. 0:10:18.520 --> 0:10:21.360 Polly, I know you were. I'm just trying to think 0:10:21.400 --> 0:10:24.520 of what will be helpful for the case winning the 0:10:24.640 --> 0:10:25.480 justice's sympathy. 0:10:25.559 --> 0:10:27.800 Who would be good sympathy? 0:10:27.920 --> 0:10:34.480 Huh? Maybe you should include the fact that that I 0:10:34.480 --> 0:10:38.880 can't have kids anymore at twenty. That's what the doctors 0:10:38.880 --> 0:10:42.280 told me. Anyway, I probably won't be able to carry 0:10:42.360 --> 0:10:45.600 a pregnancy. At least I won't have to worry about 0:10:45.600 --> 0:10:46.520 getting another abortion. 0:10:59.280 --> 0:11:02.760 Proud of yourself, Sarah, I particularly no, when did we 0:11:02.800 --> 0:11:06.319 switch places? I thought I was the cynical, sarcastic bitch 0:11:06.320 --> 0:11:08.000 and you were the peppy, prom queen. 0:11:08.200 --> 0:11:11.559 What I am is a lawyer, deb not a shorthands stonographer. 0:11:12.240 --> 0:11:14.120 We have to think like the opposition here or the 0:11:14.160 --> 0:11:16.320 briefs are meaningless. I thought you wanted to win. 0:11:17.720 --> 0:11:19.040 I'm sorry, I'm cranky. 0:11:19.600 --> 0:11:21.160 Can we stop for lunch before the next one? 0:11:21.320 --> 0:11:35.680 I thought you'd never ask. 0:11:36.880 --> 0:11:38.640 I swear, Tob I could eat everything. 0:11:38.360 --> 0:11:39.360 On this menu right now. 0:11:39.640 --> 0:11:42.599 Yeah, I think I've lost my appetite completely. 0:11:44.200 --> 0:11:45.600 Oh ladies, what can I get you? 0:11:46.000 --> 0:11:46.120 Hi? 0:11:46.200 --> 0:11:47.400 Annette? 0:11:47.960 --> 0:11:48.680 Do I know you? 0:11:48.960 --> 0:11:52.120 It's deb Margulis. We've spoken on the phone. This is 0:11:52.160 --> 0:11:55.000 Sarah Weddington. When's your next. 0:11:54.800 --> 0:12:07.920 Break, lady lawyer? Huh? 0:12:08.040 --> 0:12:09.320 What a time to be alive. 0:12:09.800 --> 0:12:12.480 Sarah won the case for us in Dallas. She's a 0:12:12.880 --> 0:12:15.160 transitioning in a role before the Supreme Court. 0:12:15.240 --> 0:12:15.520 Though. 0:12:16.040 --> 0:12:18.199 Let me guess a man is tagging you out. 0:12:18.240 --> 0:12:19.400 How do you and Debt know each other? 0:12:21.040 --> 0:12:25.000 I'll take that as a yes, we don't know each other. Actually, 0:12:25.120 --> 0:12:28.439 we spoke on the phone that preferred me to someone 0:12:28.520 --> 0:12:29.640 last time I got pregnant. 0:12:30.240 --> 0:12:32.559 Yeah, that was before we had doctors we could rely 0:12:32.679 --> 0:12:35.079 on in that. I still feel guilty. 0:12:35.480 --> 0:12:38.640 Hey, I survived and it worked, right, I got unpregnant. 0:12:38.760 --> 0:12:42.240 You also ended up in a hospital, still worked Annette. 0:12:42.280 --> 0:12:44.360 We're taking stories for our brief If I could start 0:12:44.360 --> 0:12:46.360 with some basic infone name, age. 0:12:46.080 --> 0:12:50.880 Occupation Annette waitress. Obviously I'm not going to give you 0:12:50.920 --> 0:12:54.320 a last name. Thirty two years old. I know I 0:12:54.400 --> 0:12:57.120 look older. I have kids will do that to you. 0:12:57.440 --> 0:12:58.880 When did you last have the procedure? 0:13:00.240 --> 0:13:02.840 Wish I had it thirteen years ago. That's why I'm 0:13:02.840 --> 0:13:09.520 in this whole mess. This whole mess being my life. 0:13:10.600 --> 0:13:13.520 I had Marissa when I was nineteen. My boyfriend pulled 0:13:13.559 --> 0:13:16.360 a disappear and act better than the amazing Randy. My 0:13:16.440 --> 0:13:19.160 father leaned on the Porschnook's family as hard as he could, 0:13:19.200 --> 0:13:22.040 but no dice. I'm making it to the altar. My 0:13:22.120 --> 0:13:25.640 mom was so embarrassed she kept us all inside, including 0:13:25.640 --> 0:13:28.000 my brothers and sisters. Couldn't show our faces in the 0:13:28.040 --> 0:13:33.320 neighborhood for two months, and they found me a replacement husband, Bill, 0:13:33.920 --> 0:13:36.520 he worked with my father at the factory, graciously agreed 0:13:36.559 --> 0:13:39.760 to raise my little bastard baby girl. I've had four 0:13:39.760 --> 0:13:40.720 more kids since then. 0:13:41.160 --> 0:13:44.960 And does Bill know you terminated the most recent pregnancy. 0:13:45.520 --> 0:13:47.240 You got any idea how diired I am? 0:13:48.360 --> 0:13:49.320 Do you have kids? 0:13:49.360 --> 0:13:50.160 Missus Weddington. 0:13:50.760 --> 0:13:51.280 No, I don't. 0:13:53.040 --> 0:13:56.080 Bill doesn't get along with the oldest Marissa. The others do, 0:13:56.160 --> 0:13:58.440 all right, they're little, but him and Marissa. It's bad. 0:13:58.480 --> 0:14:01.720 And forget about money. This last time you knocked me up, 0:14:01.760 --> 0:14:04.240 i'd just gotten a job at my kid's school. They 0:14:04.280 --> 0:14:06.640 fire the pregnant teachers as soon as they find out 0:14:06.640 --> 0:14:09.320 school policy. I tried to get the abortion before I 0:14:09.360 --> 0:14:12.680 started showing, but the principal's witch of a secretary caught 0:14:12.679 --> 0:14:15.840 me vomiting in the bathroom fired me that afternoon. 0:14:15.880 --> 0:14:17.400 Where'd you get this one done? A natte? 0:14:18.200 --> 0:14:20.520 The guy y'all referred me to told me to bring 0:14:20.560 --> 0:14:23.720 five hundred bucks and wait outside the Starlight Diner. Where 0:14:23.760 --> 0:14:26.280 the hell was I going to get five hundred bucks? 0:14:26.600 --> 0:14:29.400 Might as well have been five hundred thousand. You don't 0:14:29.440 --> 0:14:32.320 want to know how I got it, but I got 0:14:32.360 --> 0:14:35.600 it anyway. I was told to get in a blucid 0:14:35.760 --> 0:14:37.760 end that pulled up to the diner at six am. 0:14:38.320 --> 0:14:40.680 They blindfolded me. You believe that. 0:14:41.480 --> 0:14:42.240 I'm so sorry. 0:14:44.080 --> 0:14:48.080 I was shaking. I was so scared. I kept thinking 0:14:48.200 --> 0:14:50.840 none of my people knew where I was going. What 0:14:50.920 --> 0:14:54.040 if I never came back? What would happen to Marissa 0:14:54.160 --> 0:14:56.680 and the rest of them. Maybe they'd think I'd just 0:14:56.760 --> 0:15:00.160 abandoned them. But when they took off my blindfold, it 0:15:00.200 --> 0:15:03.840 looked like a real doctor's office. Clean. They gave me 0:15:03.880 --> 0:15:09.000 a shot, said it was antibiotics, no anesthesia, no anesthesia. 0:15:10.440 --> 0:15:11.120 Are you serious? 0:15:11.360 --> 0:15:15.480 Well that's pretty typical, Sarah. She had complications from the anesthesia. 0:15:15.560 --> 0:15:17.880 They could get found out too much of her risk. 0:15:19.040 --> 0:15:21.160 Plus they gotta get a cent and out of there quick. 0:15:21.200 --> 0:15:23.640 Can't be waiting for us to come too. I have 0:15:23.720 --> 0:15:27.200 given birth five times. How a root canal wants electrocute 0:15:27.200 --> 0:15:30.960 of myself on the toaster and nothing, Nothing has hurt 0:15:31.040 --> 0:15:32.840 me so bad as that can. 0:15:32.720 --> 0:15:35.120 I just asking it. Why didn't you go to another state? 0:15:35.560 --> 0:15:37.360 It's legal in California or New York. 0:15:37.840 --> 0:15:39.920 How the hell you think I'm going to afford to 0:15:39.920 --> 0:15:43.520 go to California and take days off, lose this job, 0:15:43.840 --> 0:15:45.800 and who's going to take care of the kids? Not built? 0:15:45.840 --> 0:15:48.480 I didn't mean to suggest the hell you didn't. Who 0:15:48.600 --> 0:15:49.280 is this chick? 0:15:49.400 --> 0:15:52.640 Deb Sarah is okay? I know she doesn't look it, 0:15:52.840 --> 0:15:54.920 but I promise she's one of us. 0:15:56.120 --> 0:15:59.040 Well, I gotta get back before the manager starts looking 0:15:59.080 --> 0:15:59.320 for me. 0:15:59.560 --> 0:16:00.600 How's your knowing it? 0:16:02.080 --> 0:16:04.560 I'm all right, doctor said, I can keep having kids 0:16:04.600 --> 0:16:08.480 if I want, hippie, I'll be paying off those bills forever. 0:16:08.560 --> 0:16:11.160 But yeah, okay, thank you. 0:16:11.080 --> 0:16:11.880 For talking to us. 0:16:12.560 --> 0:16:14.480 It's useful for the case. 0:16:16.240 --> 0:16:27.240 I'm glad it's useful to somebody. 0:16:27.920 --> 0:16:30.320 What do you think, Sarah, She's good for the brief. 0:16:31.240 --> 0:16:34.800 She's sympathetic, married, she has more kids than she and 0:16:34.800 --> 0:16:38.040 her husband can afford. The liberal justices will appreciate that, 0:16:38.120 --> 0:16:40.520 and we can play down the first unwed pregnancy she wishes. 0:16:40.560 --> 0:16:43.800 She aboarded, glad she was ethical enough for you. 0:16:44.200 --> 0:16:46.240 I want to win, Deb, same as you. 0:16:46.640 --> 0:16:48.840 With this court, with Burger and Blackman and Stewart, we 0:16:48.920 --> 0:16:51.680 need the most squeaky clean cases. We can find girls 0:16:51.720 --> 0:16:54.440 who remind the conservative judges of their daughters and sisters. 0:16:55.760 --> 0:16:56.680 Where are we going now? 0:16:57.240 --> 0:17:01.440 Now we go to the hospital with the doctor there, 0:17:01.480 --> 0:17:03.760 and she has a patient who may be willing. 0:17:03.480 --> 0:17:04.240 To talk to us. 0:17:05.720 --> 0:17:08.200 But Sarah, you gotta be gentlemen. 0:17:09.320 --> 0:17:11.800 I'm not going to attack some poor girl in the hospital. 0:17:11.800 --> 0:17:24.240 Deb give me some credit, Doctor Dennis, please. 0:17:24.040 --> 0:17:32.439 Don doctor Caplin, Deb, come in, come in. I'm just 0:17:32.480 --> 0:17:33.480 finishing up a chart. 0:17:34.960 --> 0:17:37.480 This is the lawyer I told you about, Sarah Weddington. 0:17:38.520 --> 0:17:41.560 Good to meet you, Sarah, you too, Doctor, appreciate your help. 0:17:42.040 --> 0:17:43.560 I read the coverage from me one at the court 0:17:43.560 --> 0:17:46.159 here in Dallas. You're a hell of a lawyer. We 0:17:46.200 --> 0:17:48.119 somehow win this thing in Washington. It will be because of 0:17:48.160 --> 0:17:48.879 you that. 0:17:49.760 --> 0:17:50.200 Thank you. 0:17:50.440 --> 0:17:52.680 It's a group effort, though, truth be told, I'll be 0:17:52.720 --> 0:17:53.560 taking a lesser role in. 0:17:53.520 --> 0:17:54.399 The case from here and ow. 0:17:54.720 --> 0:17:56.879 You're not abandoning us, are you, Sarah. 0:17:57.080 --> 0:18:00.919 No, it's a case like this is like musical chairs. 0:18:01.160 --> 0:18:02.720 It may be my turn to sit a song out, 0:18:02.760 --> 0:18:03.200 that's all. 0:18:03.720 --> 0:18:04.400 Uh huh. 0:18:04.600 --> 0:18:06.760 Tell Sarah what you were telling me over the phone. 0:18:06.800 --> 0:18:07.040 Doc. 0:18:08.560 --> 0:18:11.200 There's been a three hundred percent increase in pregnant women 0:18:11.240 --> 0:18:14.680 taking for littlemi trying to induce abortion. These women are 0:18:15.119 --> 0:18:18.000 giving birth to children with missing arms, missing legs. 0:18:18.400 --> 0:18:20.800 Jesus, that's awful. 0:18:20.920 --> 0:18:23.480 Women are drinking castor oil, just drinking it from a bottle. 0:18:23.520 --> 0:18:26.280 At Coca Cola. We've had women come in who inserted 0:18:26.320 --> 0:18:28.919 paintbrushes and curtain rods into their uterus and an attempt 0:18:28.960 --> 0:18:32.879 to abort ballpoint pens. I had a patient this morning 0:18:32.920 --> 0:18:36.240 who was brought in from the bus depot. They found 0:18:36.240 --> 0:18:37.840 her passed out and bleeding internally. 0:18:38.760 --> 0:18:40.040 You got someone for us to talk to. 0:18:40.200 --> 0:18:40.440 Doc. 0:18:41.280 --> 0:18:49.800 Come with me, Hi, Grace, how are you holding up today? 0:18:51.040 --> 0:18:51.359 Better? 0:18:51.440 --> 0:18:51.919 I think? 0:18:52.359 --> 0:18:56.560 Thank you? Doctor Richard sent me flowers. See they're lovely. 0:18:57.920 --> 0:19:00.560 These are the two women I mentioned Grace since deb 0:19:00.800 --> 0:19:03.880 and this is Sarah, the ones compiling that report for court. 0:19:04.840 --> 0:19:07.800 You're still up for talking to them? 0:19:07.840 --> 0:19:08.959 What do you all want to know? 0:19:09.440 --> 0:19:10.440 I'll leave you all to it. 0:19:12.480 --> 0:19:16.040 How about we start with the basics. First name age. 0:19:16.560 --> 0:19:20.800 My name's Grace. I'll be seventeen in October. Who's Richard? 0:19:21.200 --> 0:19:24.400 Is that your boyfriend fiance? At least he says he's 0:19:24.400 --> 0:19:28.040 gonna marry me. That's how I ended up here. We 0:19:28.080 --> 0:19:30.120 didn't think it was so bad to do it since 0:19:30.160 --> 0:19:34.000 we were getting married. Anyway, Maybe that's more detail than 0:19:34.040 --> 0:19:36.760 you need for your four. My mom's always yelling at 0:19:36.760 --> 0:19:42.640 me from being too frank. Anyway, I didn't get my period, 0:19:44.040 --> 0:19:46.840 So Richard got a phone number from his buddy who 0:19:46.840 --> 0:19:50.240 goes to ut We called and the guy said to 0:19:50.280 --> 0:19:54.640