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Speaker 1: They around the NFL podcast will not say super Bowl today.

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Speaker 1: I'm the Chris Wesley podcast studio. It's around the NFL.

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Speaker 1: I am Dan has It's.

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Speaker 2: Got heroes here, Greg Rosehal Mark Sessler. Now, we will

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Speaker 2: not say that word. All the other basic bro podcasts

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Speaker 2: out there shrug their shoulders and say, let's just dig out.

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Speaker 2: What is it Today's linebackers Day snore?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, lifeless.

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Speaker 2: There's more to the NFL than the big game, which

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Speaker 2: is permitted. There's more to life, a lot more. You

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Speaker 2: may notice that Mark and I are on the show today,

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Speaker 2: and that is because the Sports Podcast Awards made their

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Speaker 2: announcement the winner of the Best American Football Podcast.

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Speaker 1: You know what me around the NFL? Thank you. Wow,

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Speaker 1: what a moment. I mean, I think it would be

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Speaker 1: good to sell.

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Speaker 2: In case there's media outlets that want to need a quote.

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Speaker 1: Let's do a little press or an announcement of some

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Speaker 2: We want to thank the fans, of course, we want

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Speaker 2: to thank the academy at the Sports Podcast Awards. We

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Speaker 2: want to thank everyone who got out and voted to

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Speaker 2: take out the Fantasy Footballers first place, the second or

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Speaker 2: for a second places first loser as they say. Something

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Speaker 2: called Nightcap came in thirdclat smellulator.

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Speaker 1: We win. We are victorious. Oh so thank you to everybody.

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Speaker 1: That's nice. It's been a while since we took home

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Speaker 1: some hardware. I would say this. You know, we we are.

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Speaker 3: We work with a number of people involved with a

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Speaker 3: lot of the shows, and so you know we take

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Speaker 3: special pride selling friends. Yeah, I mean we take special

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Speaker 3: pride like they It's it resets the everyone's are corp

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Speaker 3: expectations and I think it goes on our resume. I

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Speaker 3: don't know what we do. We win something beyond I mean.

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Speaker 1: Eric, did we win it? But like physically.

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Speaker 4: Cour Corvette, we get that tweet, yeah, trophy or something.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, we had the fantasy footballers on our podcast earlier.

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Speaker 5: It's nice to take them out pff more like pf humph.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I do feel like too far.

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Speaker 5: I do feel like we are. You know, we're kind

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Speaker 5: of like the twenty fourteen the music Patriots. Go ahead,

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Speaker 5: and you know the Patriots had a lot of early success.

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Speaker 4: We did too.

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Speaker 5: We famously took home a Stitcher Award in twenty thirteen.

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Speaker 4: Podcasts Our Producer did.

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Speaker 5: Nominated for an iTunes Award for the Best Podcast.

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Speaker 4: I don't even know if they had a winner, butore.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know if iTunes exist.

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Speaker 4: Right or Apple Store.

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Speaker 5: But it's been ten years since then, and I now

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Speaker 5: that we've won another award and been recognized, feel like

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Speaker 5: our producer that stole that first award.

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Speaker 4: And had it physically the Awards distribute, had.

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Speaker 5: It sent to their house and then we never saw it.

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Speaker 5: They are like the Bill Buckner of our podcast. I

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Speaker 5: forgive them now. I forgive It's okay.

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Speaker 2: I believe that this subments our legacy as the greatest

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Speaker 2: NFL podcast that has ever existed.

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Speaker 1: And I already knew that, but having this award, there

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Speaker 1: is no other way.

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Speaker 2: Now, just like hoisting the Lombardi Trophy on the day

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Speaker 2: of the Big Game, you can no longer argue who's

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Speaker 2: the best, the best there is, who the best there was,

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Speaker 2: the best there ever will be.

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Speaker 3: On a personal note, one of the people that we

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Speaker 3: previously gamed along with you guys as a top ten

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Speaker 3: football insider that show is.

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Speaker 1: Out take a seat, stool guts.

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Speaker 3: He go, We're gonna see all these people in a

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Speaker 3: week and they're gonna and they're going to twit us.

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Speaker 1: I can't say that. I can't say that, Sessler. I mean,

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Speaker 1: how about that guy?

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Speaker 4: It is that guy.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you who he is. He is a member

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Speaker 5: Covered it now we've got Although I'm actually in the world,

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Speaker 5: I'm in a tough spot here because us winning a

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Speaker 5: they didn't have myself, was a window there that, like

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Speaker 2: So you Mark, you've said it so many times inappropriately,

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Speaker 2: this would be the time where you could mention they

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Speaker 3: Right, and they and yet they stood down that they

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Speaker 2: They put down their shields. Well, listen, that's a good

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Speaker 2: way to start the show. And yeah, if you could

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Speaker 2: find out, Eric, if you could let us know, we

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Speaker 1: Do we Yeah, do we get something for it?

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Speaker 2: Because I would like I see that glass right there,

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Speaker 2: right next to my the football I got for helping.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Clemson, I believe it.

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Speaker 5: Was you didn't help anywhere, the most ridiculous thing I know.

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Speaker 2: Says otherwise and signed by him, So helping out the

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Speaker 2: underprivileged youth of Clemson, Gregy. We have that in the

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Speaker 1: We should have something.

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Speaker 6: Yet, I'll reach out to see what comes along with it.

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Speaker 6: Maybe some pizza comes with it.

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Speaker 3: Well, well, I think at this point they realize who

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Speaker 2: So with that said, we have a nice show ahead

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Speaker 2: of us because we will not say it. In fact,

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Speaker 2: if anyone says the name of the game as it's

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Speaker 2: the two teams, right, it is a And this is

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Speaker 1: Five dollars, Fine, five dollars. It's not insignificant when you start,

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Speaker 5: I remember when this, when this show first started, the tradition,

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Speaker 5: I think the NFL should calm down on, you know,

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Speaker 5: not letting anyone use that word. We can't use that

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Speaker 3: Wait, one technical question, like so if you say the

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Speaker 1: Where is it going?

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Speaker 2: you can't say it.

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Speaker 1: And Eric, it is so important that you.

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Speaker 1: It can't happen.

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Speaker 2: and again it's a don't say you know what mail bag,

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Speaker 1: it was going to be a winner. You gotta have

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Speaker 1: We all felt we could win. We won, and I

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Speaker 1: We got the team. Brother, that's sort of a starting game.

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Speaker 2: January nineteen sixty nine, and that was sal Marciano, who

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Speaker 2: It's coming to a stop. Every head coaching spot is

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Speaker 2: Of course, he served as the Falcons head coach in

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Speaker 1: There was a twenty eight to three comeback in twenty

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Speaker 3: It was a large event, sporting event that featured the Patriots.

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Speaker 2: I'd try to get you, didn't get you. I was

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Speaker 2: And it should be said, Greg that we're gonna talk

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Speaker 2: because Quinn doesn't appear to be the commander's first choice here,

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Speaker 5: And Ben Johnson especially was the guy that the insiders

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Speaker 1: And maybe it is the money now.

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Speaker 1: Now we'll see.

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Speaker 1: And we made this.

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Speaker 5: So they talked about but they considered him that they

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Speaker 2: Yes, and it was deemed that the combined wisdom of

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Speaker 1: Let's see how this all.

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Speaker 1: And also in general, it's just is that wild, Like

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Speaker 1: And he is thirty six years old.

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Speaker 5: So the six years struck me too, Dan, that was

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Speaker 5: Certainly the Rams had some good numbers against him, but

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Speaker 2: Wasn't part of this decision to move on from Pete Carroll,

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Speaker 3: This is one of these age things that's crazy. It's

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Speaker 1: Another let's spin the carousel again. M h.

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Speaker 4: We got a lot.

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Speaker 2: By the way, they commanders were trying to call up

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Speaker 4: All right, six years.

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Speaker 2: He was yes, Jeff Haffley. He was BC's coach for

446
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Speaker 2: four years. As defensive coordinator, the Ravens or you hitting me?

447
00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:04,320
Speaker 2: They named linebacker inside linebackers coach Zach or their DC.

448
00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:08,680
Speaker 2: That's a good position. That's similar to uh, you know

449
00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:10,760
Speaker 2: what's been going on in San Francisco in recent years.

450
00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:14,000
Speaker 2: Although I don't think Steve Wilkes is going have the

451
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Speaker 2: same success, but that that could get you a job.

452
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Speaker 1: Just got McDonald's job.

453
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Speaker 2: So Or takes over that defense and the Panthers do

454
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Speaker 2: decide or Canalas decides a Gio of Vero ever will

455
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Speaker 2: remain their defensive coordinator.

456
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Speaker 3: One thing, like because the Jeff Hafley thing the Green

457
00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,560
Speaker 3: Bay that was such a huge hire after what's been

458
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Speaker 3: going on like the past couple of years, Like I

459
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Speaker 3: was like, why did why did they don't? He doesn't

460
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Speaker 3: really know Lafleora very well, but he had He worked

461
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Speaker 3: under Mike Petton in Cleveland. He worked under Shanahan as well,

462
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Speaker 3: so there is some link with the floor.

463
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Speaker 1: Where's Mike Petnat by the way.

464
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Speaker 3: He may be back in that cabin. He built that

465
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Speaker 3: cabin on the lake in Ohio.

466
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Speaker 5: He went like right next to Brown's training camp though no, no,

467
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Speaker 5: that's where he lived.

468
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Speaker 2: Thinking of the collision Low Crossers where pet Nat these

469
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Speaker 2: days go ahead.

470
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Speaker 3: More well, no, but like like Halflee, there was reporting

471
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Speaker 3: that Halflee decided to leave a head coaching job at

472
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Speaker 3: BC because of the nonsensical like nature of like the

473
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Speaker 3: transfer portal and the nil So he was just like,

474
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Speaker 3: I don't want to do this scene.

475
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Speaker 1: We're I go like coach real football.

476
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Speaker 3: So I mean, I think it's an interesting, strange higher

477
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Speaker 3: because unless you're deep in BC territories. He went twenty

478
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Speaker 3: two and twenty six at PC, I don't know, right, It's.

479
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Speaker 5: Like, I think being a college coach now is so tricky,

480
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:34,720
Speaker 5: and it's just it's the situation college football has given

481
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Speaker 5: to themselves that essentially now coaches and players like, you

482
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Speaker 5: don't blame Halflee, you don't blame the players.

483
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Speaker 4: You kind of blame that system.

484
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Speaker 5: But he came into Ohio State and like the year

485
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Speaker 5: he had there was like incredible. But I think the Packers,

486
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Speaker 5: by all accounts and the Rams might have had a

487
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Speaker 5: Gio Evro as their number one choice for defensive coordinator

488
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Speaker 5: and the Panthers had rights to his contract and just

489
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Speaker 5: did not let him leave and wanted to see who

490
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Speaker 5: they ended up hiring as a head coach, did not

491
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Speaker 5: let him leave who knows. Maybe you work out a

492
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Speaker 5: thing and you use a little David Tepper money there.

493
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Speaker 4: But I do like I do like Tepper by the

494
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Speaker 4: way at Senior Bowl.

495
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Speaker 5: Is that wherever he's I think they were at a

496
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Speaker 5: press conference today for their new head coach Canals.

497
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Speaker 2: Pepper Be asked a question about something pertaining to the Panthers,

498
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Speaker 2: and temper Be saying He's like, I'm receding to the background.

499
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Speaker 1: You're not going to hear from me. So Tepper be

500
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Speaker 1: changing his profile or be attempting. Not great for temper

501
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Speaker 1: Be talking like, you know what we thought would be, you.

502
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Speaker 2: Would think that. But I have a feeling he's going

503
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Speaker 2: to struggle. He'll be back, keep the stance. But right

504
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Speaker 2: now Tepper Be laying low.

505
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Speaker 5: Shout out to Zach Orr by the way, because first

506
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Speaker 5: of all, we can use the ore you kidding me?

507
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Speaker 5: Drop more and we'll talk with the con He's thirty

508
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Speaker 5: one years old. I was like, wasn't he just in

509
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Speaker 5: the NFL? He is thirty one years old, and I

510
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,160
Speaker 5: got to think they chose him over Denard Wilson, who

511
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,440
Speaker 5: got a lot of looks elsewhere and got that job

512
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Speaker 5: in inten See, where he's going to run that defense.

513
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Speaker 2: He's everybody else see where this is going, by the way,

514
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 2: what because now the what's in vogue is you must

515
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,679
Speaker 2: hire a young hotshot, end up with some high school

516
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:14,160
Speaker 2: analytics genius, like some seventeen year old kid running a team.

517
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Speaker 3: Like twenty five percent of the people that we've talked

518
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 3: about during this hiring cycle like came from analytics, and

519
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 3: half of them work for PFF, like Bobby Slowick, and

520
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,479
Speaker 3: there's others that just like that's not unusual, and it's

521
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,119
Speaker 3: like the Sean mcvaye of the world that are hiring

522
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Speaker 3: these guys.

523
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Speaker 2: But I mean, let's it's it's going to get to

524
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Speaker 2: the point where somebody before they even have their learners permit.

525
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Speaker 1: Is going to be running a team they just learned. Like, look, god,

526
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:35,920
Speaker 1: we've done.

527
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Speaker 4: We're ahead of the curve. Your curve.

528
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Speaker 1: I laugh at your curve, Look at my curve.

529
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,919
Speaker 3: I love boy crafting like rise over run you know,

530
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Speaker 3: diagrams in their math notebook and suddenly.

531
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Speaker 5: Run fifty three. So that should make you feel better.

532
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Speaker 5: That's a coach that's older than all of us.

533
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Speaker 1: It's a great hire.

534
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Speaker 2: So I guess maybe, I uh, I know, I'm supposed

535
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Speaker 2: to say every higher is amazing.

536
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Speaker 1: I don't love it. Not, No, everybody's like this is

537
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Speaker 1: such a great high. This is one of the great

538
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Speaker 1: hot shots.

539
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 2: We talk about this how the sausage gets maids with

540
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:09,399
Speaker 2: the insider insiders, we have to understand, like everybody is

541
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 2: pumping up these guys is like, yes, the most gifted

542
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:16,600
Speaker 2: future roster builder or a coach who truly deserves a

543
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:17,399
Speaker 2: second edg shot.

544
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Speaker 1: Let's see where all these guys well.

545
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 3: Someone like David Canal's like, we don't we have no idea.

546
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Speaker 5: On a person right, on a personal I think you

547
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 5: have hit on something that's true. Like for me personally,

548
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 5: I found as wrong as we are every year, like

549
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,400
Speaker 5: incredibly wrong about our preseason predictions of like who's gonna

550
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 5: win and stuff, as wrong as I am of like

551
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 5: which free agents are going to work out. Like sometimes

552
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 5: I'm right, sometimes I'm wrong, but I'm very often wrong.

553
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,439
Speaker 5: I feel like there's nothing I'm more wrong about than

554
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,199
Speaker 5: knowing which coach is going to be good or not.

555
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:49,639
Speaker 5: So it's just like at this point, it's just like, Okay,

556
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,679
Speaker 5: this makes sense, and I have a hard time like

557
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Speaker 5: being like that's not gonna work because it's just you

558
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Speaker 5: just have no clue.

559
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Speaker 2: Mike McDaniel friends, Mike McDonald that's gonna be annoying.

560
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Speaker 1: By the way, is.

561
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Speaker 2: This year's version of Once upon a Time Brandon Staley

562
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:08,199
Speaker 2: Like remember like the the flowers being thrown at his

563
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 2: feet when he was hired, the like this.

564
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Speaker 1: You don't know, but right now everything looks good.

565
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Speaker 3: It's like it's like the one day where they haven't

566
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 3: made a mistake yet, and so okay, it's a one day.

567
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 3: There'suld be like a one day window and then you

568
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:22,239
Speaker 3: can start to get there.

569
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Speaker 5: The problem with Quinn is he's the most ron rivera ish, That's.

570
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Speaker 1: What's really.

571
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Speaker 2: And I feel, yeah, I feel for Commanders fans because

572
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Speaker 2: obviously all the things they've gone through with the ownership,

573
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Speaker 2: but it seems like there's still it's taken time to

574
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Speaker 2: get out of the mud here and maybe Quinn listen,

575
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Speaker 2: Quinn not to double back. But Quinn nearly one a

576
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 2: big one, right. He had Kyle with him. He like,

577
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 2: we said, we have to. He needs somebody up and coming.

578
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Speaker 1: Well.

579
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Speaker 3: One thing though, like if you go back one of

580
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Speaker 3: the most inquack like the what one hiring that had

581
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 3: people boll flustered and annoyed and thought it was completely failed.

582
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 3: When they hired him as a second head coach. Was

583
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Speaker 3: Bill Belichick to the Patriots.

584
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 1: His Q rating was low.

585
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 3: The whole thing had happened with the Jets, like there

586
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:12,920
Speaker 3: were a lot of people thinking they gave up too

587
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 3: much for him. It was like that Bill Belichick was

588
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 3: not highly regarded and he wasn't thought of as like

589
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Speaker 3: a guy that was easy to get along with.

590
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Speaker 5: And it was like there was a lot of grublin

591
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Speaker 5: going into the twenty two thousand and one season two

592
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Speaker 5: after one year.

593
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Speaker 3: Right, so he just you never know, Like I mean, Quinn,

594
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 3: it's not a sexy pick, but he could be more

595
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 3: reliably successful two years from now than anyone and these

596
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:33,400
Speaker 3: other guys who were unknowns.

597
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember when they came out that Belichick was

598
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 2: going to replace Parcels. I think a lot of Jets

599
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 2: fans at the time were like, Okay, that sounds pretty good.

600
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Speaker 1: But it wasn't like, oh my god, we're getting Belichick.

601
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Speaker 2: And then maybe it was when all the warring began

602
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 2: with the Patriots about where how things would end up,

603
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 2: there was a feeling.

604
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Speaker 1: Like, oh, just let him go.

605
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Speaker 2: It's not like you know, turned out he was somebody

606
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 2: would want and now he can't get a job. Well,

607
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Speaker 2: you know, maybe.

608
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Speaker 1: Next year a quarter cent later.

609
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Speaker 5: But yes, I did put it out there into the

610
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Speaker 5: world that we'd welcome him. You know, I know he's

611
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 5: going to do some media and little fourth cheer action

612
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 5: maybe on Wednesdays something like that Belichick's corner.

613
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Speaker 2: Wait, replace Colleen, not Wednesday? Whoa you really heat seated

614
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Speaker 2: seek door?

615
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Speaker 4: That was going to be though Thursday. How about on

616
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Speaker 4: the previous show.

617
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Speaker 1: Maybe she won't listen to this one though, He'll be.

618
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Speaker 4: Okay, just throwing out a rand.

619
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Speaker 3: Greg was very hot on this when he thought you

620
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Speaker 3: and I were no longer part of.

621
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Speaker 5: The show, right, it was actually me Colleen an Belichick

622
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Speaker 5: speaking of Belichick.

623
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Speaker 2: Yea, I do not I do not envy Zaddie because

624
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 2: Jerry Jones keeps talking, talking and talking and talking. If

625
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 2: you ask Jerry Jones about anything involving head coach and

626
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 2: job security, he will not outright back his guy. Really,

627
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 2: he's always going to leave the door open. We have

628
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 2: a quote here. You see this quote. Someone asked about

629
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 2: what he could work with Bill Belichick, and here's what

630
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Speaker 2: Jarah Jones said the Yahoo Sports. I know him personally

631
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Speaker 2: and I like him. There's no doubt in my mind

632
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 2: we could work together.

633
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Speaker 4: None like.

634
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Speaker 1: I don't know why Jarah thinks he needs to say that. No,

635
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Speaker 1: I don't. I have no idea.

636
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 2: Now his his star defensive player, Michah Parsons, came out

637
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 2: and got after the team, saying they were the old

638
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 2: we were outplayed out scheme. Did he say out coach?

639
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 2: That's usually what said too. So he was filled with

640
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 2: frustration about that situation. And then also this week, Jarah

641
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 2: was pontificating about listen, we haven't put it. I think

642
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 2: this is what I think. This is the metaphor. We

643
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 2: haven't put it through the hoop yet. But we're right

644
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 2: at the rim, right there, Jarah, right there.

645
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Speaker 7: I thought we made a pretty good moved four years

646
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 7: ago my Karthy, and he's had some great in season success.

647
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 7: Now he's come up short three times three times and

648
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 7: advanced us in the playoff. Okay, but I like the

649
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 7: fact that he's hanging around the rim, and I like

650
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 7: what the team has done to hang around the rim.

651
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 7: So I think of what the answer that I would

652
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 7: have is that I'm aware that we're hanging around the rim.

653
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 7: We're not getting the ball in, but we let's don't

654
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Speaker 7: discount hanging around the rim and where we are right

655
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 7: now with the players we've got. And I'm thinking about

656
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Speaker 7: it from the.

657
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:46,239
Speaker 2: Whole book, which is it's apt the metaphor because Mike

658
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 2: McCarthy he can dunk.

659
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Speaker 1: By the way McCarthy.

660
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Speaker 2: I know people are going to say, oh no, he's

661
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Speaker 2: a bigger guy, know that guy. He can cross you over,

662
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Speaker 2: he can barrel down a lane, and he could throw

663
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Speaker 2: down a thunderbomb.

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Speaker 3: On His football is completely different than basketball. Dan, When

665
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Speaker 3: have you ever seen him do that athletically?

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Speaker 1: What you just mentioned my dreams. But I imagine he can.

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Speaker 3: That's all I love Jerry Jones. I'm starting to like

668
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 3: him more and more because that was an utterly absurd soliloquy.

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Speaker 3: And you've got a coach who's lucky wasn't fired. You've

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Speaker 3: lost your defensive coordinator. Your quarterback has a fifty nine

671
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Speaker 3: million dollar cap hit, which means like, do you have

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Speaker 3: to extend him to fix that or do you let

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Speaker 3: twenty five percent of your cap be eating up by

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Speaker 3: and lose his playoff game?

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Speaker 4: Push the money? Yeah, I think they will extend him.

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Speaker 5: I Uh, he loves ball though, you gotta admit, like

677
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Speaker 5: at this point in his life. He's there in Mobile.

678
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Speaker 5: You could see he's wearing one of the lanyards. He

679
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Speaker 5: shows up.

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Speaker 4: You know, I'm sure it's a press agent gets it

681
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Speaker 4: for him, but he puts the lanyard on. It's like

682
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Speaker 4: the draft starts in Mobile.

683
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Speaker 5: He's wearing the lake like he's hanging out in Mobile

684
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Speaker 5: for five days right after the season, Like he never

685
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Speaker 5: gets he'll be in Indianapolis. He's on the cycle, but

686
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Speaker 5: he knows what he's doing there with Belichick. He's sending

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Speaker 5: a little message to his guy, Hey, keep us in

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Speaker 5: your thoughts. Maybe he's even aware that there's been some

689
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Speaker 5: rumors there down there at the Senior Boy, I bet

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Speaker 5: he is.

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Speaker 4: Greg Bodard from Boston Sports Journal put this out there

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Speaker 4: that that there.

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Speaker 5: Were some Eagles Belichick connections, that that Howie and Belichick

694
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Speaker 5: have a good relationship, and that that maybe it was

695
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 5: just a rumor mill, but that if things didn't work

696
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Speaker 5: out with Sirianni, if like that meeting they had with

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Speaker 5: Sirianni didn't.

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Speaker 4: Work out, that Belichick was maybe.

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Speaker 5: On online one and that we got Bill kind of

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Speaker 5: hovering over this NFC East as we enter twenty twenty.

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Speaker 1: Four, he could end up back at the Giants. By

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Speaker 1: the way, that is that I would wish.

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Speaker 5: The New York Post has been writing about that too,

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Speaker 5: So it's like every everyone wants.

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Speaker 2: Them all right, that's what's happening in the news. And

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Speaker 2: in case you just joined us, the news went down.

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Speaker 2: We are the champions of the American Sports Podcast Awards.

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Speaker 1: Is that what it is?

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Speaker 5: It's the Sports Podcast Awards. The category was the best

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Speaker 5: American Football Podcast.

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Speaker 1: That's the lead news item today. But we have done

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Speaker 1: what we have achieved.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to say nobody said we can do it.

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of people doubted us.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to say nobody believed in us, but

716
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna say it. I remember when we started this podcast, well,

717
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 2: we had a boss that said, you guys can't even

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Speaker 2: all be in the studio at the same time. We

719
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 2: need one person in the newsroom for optics. And I remember,

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Speaker 2: after a long road to get full time employment with

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Speaker 2: this company, another boss no longer with the company said

722
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Speaker 2: to me, I know, you think you're getting this job

723
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 2: for that podcast, but it's not about the podcast.

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Speaker 1: You know what I said to myself, you it's about

725
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Speaker 1: the podcast.

726
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 2: So this is an award that celebrates everything we've done.

727
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 1: And we went out and had a great dinner last night.

728
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Speaker 2: The three of us did a State of the Union conversation,

729
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Speaker 2: had a few drinks.

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Speaker 3: We didn't even know this was going to occur when

731
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Speaker 3: we had.

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Speaker 4: The night this was this was not the time.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't. It wasn't. But it shows our humility.

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Speaker 2: Though after eleven years, the humility on display, I think

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Speaker 2: is impossible to miss.

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Speaker 3: I also want to just say to the that there's

737
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Speaker 3: a technical UH department gentlemen who about seven or eight

738
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Speaker 3: years ago UH watched many of our shows from Afar

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00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 3: and confidently labeled us as podcast posos. We're now podcastposos

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Speaker 3: who have won a massive award an international war defect.

741
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Speaker 4: I think he liked the podcast, said the I don't.

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Speaker 3: I've never spoken to him about any other aspect of

743
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 3: the show, but that's how we were labeled.

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Speaker 1: Watch us fly, those can fly to.

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Speaker 4: You're not exactly dreading is just such a good time

746
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 4: to check the sink on these podcast posals.

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00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, he sounds like he likes the show.

748
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 5: No, I've talked to him many times as we work together,

749
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 5: and you know, he always makes a joke about it,

750
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 5: but you know who doesn't make jokes that you're not

751
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 5: you're not exaggerating about that.

752
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:16,600
Speaker 4: That first boss.

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Speaker 5: There is no exaggeration that he thought this was a

754
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 5: completely useless waste of time, that he acted a visionary.

755
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 5: That man actively discouraged throughout the process and tried to

756
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Speaker 5: break up on some level and get me out of

757
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 5: it too, like what are you doing?

758
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 2: You should be The amount of times management, that's right

759
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 2: when he was.

760
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 4: A million times he met really tried to end it.

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Speaker 2: The amount of times management and current management is excellent,

762
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Speaker 2: and and we're very happy with all the shadowy figures

763
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 2: actively working with the show. But the the number of

764
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 2: times management tried to kill the show before it even

765
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 2: began or just when it was gaining momentum. Give me

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00:36:56,400 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 2: my music again, please, if you're just joining us, If

767
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 2: you're just joining us, we are the winners of the

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Speaker 2: American Football Best American Football Podcast.

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00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 1: They try to kill us.

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00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 2: They tried to say you're not good enough, and we said, no, bro,

771
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 2: you're not good enough.

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Speaker 5: Okay, and now here we are the winners of the

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Speaker 5: Most Humble podcast twenty twenty four.

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00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 3: I think we're selfless, we're charitable.

775
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 2: The humility is so bright and shining it's blinding everyone

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00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 2: around us.

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00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 1: All right, let's take a break. Definitely, we'll be right back.

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Speaker 1: Hit the mailbag.

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00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,800
Speaker 2: In case you're just joining us.

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Speaker 1: We are the winners. The others have ast and they

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00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:04,760
Speaker 1: must live with that reality.

782
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 2: Thank you to Henry Hodgson, by the way over in

783
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Speaker 2: the UK, our friend.

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Speaker 3: Do you know that he galvanized some some voters in

785
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 3: the auction.

786
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:16,839
Speaker 4: We definitely reminded us to mention it on the show,

787
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:17,959
Speaker 4: which which which helped.

788
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Speaker 1: Although I think he played a hand in us being nominated.

789
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 1: Oh that's I.

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00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 4: Understand, that's true. We were not nominated the first three

791
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 4: or two or three years.

792
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 1: What a success story.

793
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 4: We went right into the win. The problem is the talk,

794
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:31,400
Speaker 4: as Patrick.

795
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 5: Riley would say, the disease of more. I've already gotten

796
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 5: a text from one of our contributors, David Ely, who

797
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 5: says congrats and then follows that up with as a

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00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 5: recurring guest, do I get hardware?

799
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 4: So already people are.

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Speaker 1: A shout out on the show. I think is more

801
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 1: than ant.

802
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:49,279
Speaker 3: We spoke about him, you know at length the other day,

803
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:50,840
Speaker 3: probably not in the way that he would like to

804
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 3: find him a wife. That's our next that's our next mission,

805
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 3: that offseason. That might take more than one off season.

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00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 1: Listen, he's a.

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00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:08,400
Speaker 2: Great guy though he's a catcher. Yes, all right, it

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00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 2: is that. Don't say you know what? And so far, Eric,

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00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 2: how much money has been raised?

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Speaker 4: Zero? We haven't even closed. This is too easy. There's

811
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,800
Speaker 4: like one reference to like San Francisco City.

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00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, it.

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00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 6: Was it about the no team. It was like, what

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Speaker 6: was I think it was Mark? He said, what's happening

815
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:28,240
Speaker 6: in San Francis?

816
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 1: You know what? Like like, let's let's wait a minute.

817
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 6: But that's I'm gonna check the table hit actually test

818
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 6: to make sure this buzzer works in case I'm having to.

819
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Speaker 3: Contribute to a slush typically illegal, but I know what.

820
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 4: That's this?

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Speaker 2: Do you want to throw the red flag because you

822
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 2: can to challenge whether or not you owe the ten I.

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Speaker 4: Mean I need.

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Speaker 1: I want to.

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Speaker 3: I believe if everyone behind the glass says that I

826
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 3: did that, then I'll be happily contribute to the slush front.

827
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Speaker 1: Are challenging it, though I would like to.

828
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 3: I would like confirmation after the show, Yeah, in a

829
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 3: gray area. They'll challenge that, and we'll leave it in

830
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 3: gray area and I will Well, I.

831
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 1: Know you said San Francisco, like you don't need to

832
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Speaker 1: challenge it. Oh, I had a new idea.

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00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 6: I'm just saying, like the reference I was a little

834
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Speaker 6: vague on like whether or not because you didn't say

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Speaker 6: forty nine ers, I.

836
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Speaker 1: Got ropido. Buzz yourself and take out your dollars.

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Speaker 2: I actually I'm just thinking of it now. Can you

838
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:27,879
Speaker 2: bring this big funk back there?

839
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Speaker 1: He's not no big fun shoot.

840
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 2: All right, I'm gonna save it for next time because

841
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 2: I the slush fund actually had a better idea for

842
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Speaker 2: what it's going to go toward, and it's it involves funk. Okay,

843
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:42,399
Speaker 2: but we'll have to sit on that one. Just let

844
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Speaker 2: him know you, Okay, maybe it's good. It's gonna be

845
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 2: something I think he will really appreciate, and maybe we

846
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Speaker 2: can get the listeners involved.

847
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 3: I can't wait to Greg and I think I know,

848
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 3: I think I know, but I would be very surprised

849
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Speaker 3: if pay it.

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Speaker 2: But don't, Yeah, don't say anything. I have an idea,

851
00:40:58,160 --> 00:40:59,879
Speaker 2: not a fanny pack. I want to write. I want

852
00:40:59,920 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 2: to right or wrong around funk, and I want to

853
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 2: use this show's platform, can't get my music. I think

854
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 2: our show, what we strive to do now that we've

855
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 2: achieved what we have.

856
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 1: Is to help others, as I did to cleansing. How so,

857
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 1: I'm not.

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00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 4: Sure we keep saying underprivileged youth.

859
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Speaker 5: And it was a business leadership conference, so you don't

860
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Speaker 5: even know who you were healthy.

861
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 1: Uh, it's so many different things. I'm helping so many people.

862
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 2: My elderly neighbor, Sharon, she has a leak in her roof,

863
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 2: and I helped clean her car the other day.

864
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Speaker 1: Do you hear me talking about that? Yes, because you

865
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:43,439
Speaker 1: just prompted me. You're challenging my bonafides. Wait a minute,

866
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Speaker 1: as a good human.

867
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Speaker 3: Yes, a leak in her roof, and then you watched

868
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Speaker 3: her car cut like her roof, car roof in her car.

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Speaker 1: Okay, it's one thing was happening, and you helped. Sharon.

870
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Speaker 1: We got to you got a garage here. Let me

871
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Speaker 1: help you empty the garage and get the car.

872
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, into the garage, so this doesn't happen again.

873
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 1: She says, Oh, no, it's fine.

874
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 2: She After the car is cleaned, she covers it with

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00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 2: a plastic sheet in the driveway and then we get

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Speaker 2: destroyed Los Angeles morning by mon sooner and I'm.

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Speaker 1: Like, ah, share it.

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00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 2: I'm upset about that. It's part of my Saturday are anyway? Greg,

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Speaker 2: That's an example, a strong one. I want us to

880
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:29,399
Speaker 2: uplift now that we've become with I.

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00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 5: Like it, and I think I know what it is.

882
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 5: You can confirm to me later. But let's let's do

883
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 5: this mailbag. All right, let's do the mail What did

884
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:42,319
Speaker 5: you slacked you? It's just we are we are on

885
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Speaker 5: air right now.

886
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 1: Yes, you're actually see It's a great idea, is it?

887
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 4: It's pretty good?

888
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 1: All right, let's open up the mailbag. First question, don't

889
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 1: say you know what? All right?

890
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 4: Uh?

891
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 2: Grass Operating fours? Is Dan ready for Year two of

892
00:42:59,040 --> 00:42:59,720
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers?

893
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 4: I am?

894
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 2: I am like when you watch a horror movie and

895
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 2: if it's well done in the first actor, getting to

896
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 2: know the protagonists that are many times doomed in some

897
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:14,720
Speaker 2: way or another, and it's a well written type horror

898
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:19,799
Speaker 2: film where you start to really feel and connect with

899
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:25,399
Speaker 2: those characters like insert jets fans. I feel terrible about

900
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 2: Year or two of Aaron Rodgers and everything around it,

901
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 2: and that athletic deep dive by Zach Rosenblatt, and I

902
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 2: think Diana Rassini. Yeah, Bob as well, Like it was

903
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:41,280
Speaker 2: interesting hearing the paranoia that'scripped poor Bob Sala and hearing

904
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 2: how Zach Wilson his feelings on Aaron Rodgers have changed

905
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 2: now because Rogers really didn't even connect with him after

906
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 2: the injury. None of this is surprising necessarily, Oh wow,

907
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 2: it was all phony, Yeah, exactly, and surprise surprise Hackett

908
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 2: wasn't according to someone and even putting in the work

909
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:06,359
Speaker 2: in terms of scheming, and all those people are coming

910
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 2: back except for Wilson. So I am I really to

911
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:13,879
Speaker 2: expect this now to be all right because the forty

912
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 2: year old quarterback is back from his Achilles tear. No,

913
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:21,919
Speaker 2: I feel this everybody, and I get it. I'm I'm

914
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 2: jealous because I know it's good sport to laugh at

915
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 2: the misfortunes of the Jets. They're funny. Get out your popcorn.

916
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:31,839
Speaker 2: It's going to be a great year in twenty twenty four.

917
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:32,879
Speaker 2: That's where I'm at right now.

918
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 3: It's it's tough when you know, I feel for Jets

919
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 3: fans for you, but like there's it's were months and

920
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 3: months away from like the business of the season and

921
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 3: the Jets, you know, becoming better in certain ways, like

922
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 3: they're already exhausting. That's not a good that's it's not

923
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 3: like it's I don't want to blame the players working

924
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:53,880
Speaker 3: hard on on that team and the coaches apparently some

925
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,240
Speaker 3: of them are, but like they're already an exhausting topic,

926
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 3: not only the Cowboys.

927
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 5: To me, right, it's less about exhausting and if anything,

928
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 5: the fact I think everyone's gonna be sowed down on

929
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:03,360
Speaker 5: the Jets.

930
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:05,439
Speaker 4: Maybe that's maybe that's the one time.

931
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 5: We don't have to worry about the hype machine, right

932
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 5: they could actually maybe that's good. But Rogers, it's just

933
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 5: funny how much he pulled the wool over everyone's eyes.

934
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 5: I think during that hard knocks and stuff and like

935
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 5: that Wilson's story and we've just seen so many of them,

936
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 5: I think just makes it very easy for me to

937
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 5: root against that guy.

938
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 4: That's all.

939
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 5: And like I heard Larry David on the Bill Simmons podcast,

940
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 5: he refused to even talk about the Jets and Rogers

941
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:34,760
Speaker 5: because he just didn't want to say anything negative about Rodgers.

942
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 4: And that's all. He would have to say about Rogers.

943
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 5: He just like didn't doesn't like the experience, you could tell,

944
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 5: but he just like doesn't want it to be aggregated

945
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 5: or even mention it because he's a Jets fan, but

946
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 5: he just doesn't. He can't even be honest about it

947
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 5: because it's just like I can't. I can't deal with it.

948
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:49,919
Speaker 2: Because he then goes on Lacavie and then gets asked

949
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 2: about it and all that stuff.

950
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 1: It's it's not good.

951
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 2: It's not good, and it's quite frankly super depressing because

952
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 2: after this happens, if it goes the way feels like

953
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:04,840
Speaker 2: it's going, then they're starting over again, all right? Next

954
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 2: JM nineteen eighty two. If you could go back in

955
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,359
Speaker 2: time and cover Slash be a beat writer for any

956
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 2: NFL team you do not support for one season?

957
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 1: Which team season? Would it be? All right? I like

958
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 1: this question.

959
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:26,880
Speaker 3: I came up with my own like list, and it

960
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,839
Speaker 3: was kind of like it's obvious ones because it's when

961
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:31,799
Speaker 3: I became a football fan. But we grew up on

962
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:34,760
Speaker 3: the East Coast and my earliest some of my earliest

963
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 3: memories are watching Loe's old like Bill Parcells Giants teams

964
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 3: with my dad, and you know, in eighty five they

965
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 3: you could see the team forming, and the Bears went

966
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 3: and won the Super Bowl that year, and the Giants

967
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,359
Speaker 3: got taken out in the playoffs. But the eighty six

968
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 3: Giants is the team that I pick because not unlike

969
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 3: when the Steelers became a powerhouse after decades of darkness,

970
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:59,240
Speaker 3: and not unlike when any team suddenly like the Lions,

971
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 3: finds light, that Giants team was one of the most celebrated.

972
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 3: And know it's the same year the Mets won the

973
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:07,240
Speaker 3: World Series, so like New York, the New York tabloids

974
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 3: were going crazy. I would love to have been there

975
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 3: to cover that from wire to wire because there was

976
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 3: you got lt in there, you got Bill Parcells. Bill

977
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:19,959
Speaker 3: Parcells and Phil Simms didn't get along half the time.

978
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 3: You had Phil McConkie. There were a lot of strange

979
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 3: players that created this Super Bowl winning team that were

980
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:29,760
Speaker 3: trailing at halftime to the Broncos, then exploded and Phil

981
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 3: Simms had the game of his life in sun splashed California.

982
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 3: It was absolutely like the crowning achievement of a team

983
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 3: that you know, they went and won in ninety but

984
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 3: that was a bit of a different team, like it

985
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 3: turned Bill Parcells who was carried off the field. That

986
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:44,880
Speaker 3: was like your first gatorade dunk and everything too. So

987
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 3: I think that was a very special time for the NFL,

988
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 3: but for New York and the team, it was like

989
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 3: back then there was no you only could watch one

990
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:54,320
Speaker 3: team Jets and Giants, basically those two teams.

991
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 1: That was it on my television.

992
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 4: The first one that.

993
00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 5: Came to mind for me was the Buddy Air Buddy

994
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 5: Ryan era Eagles.

995
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 4: I don't know why. I was always in fascinated.

996
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:05,359
Speaker 1: I was thinking of the Buddy Bear.

997
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 4: That would be fun too. Uh.

998
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 5: There's a great book, maybe maybe the best like season

999
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 5: in the life book I've ever read. It was by

1000
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 5: Mark Bowden, who who also ended up writing you know,

1001
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:19,319
Speaker 5: books that turned into major movies. But it was called

1002
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:20,839
Speaker 5: Bringing the Heat, and it was about it was about

1003
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 5: the Eagles, and uh, that team with Randall Cunningham and

1004
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:27,840
Speaker 5: Buddy Ryan. Wade Phillips was in the mix at some point,

1005
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:30,360
Speaker 5: like in Reggie White and Jerome Brown who was this

1006
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:33,720
Speaker 5: crazy character, and Clyde Simmons and the drama with Ryan

1007
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,839
Speaker 5: and his coaching staffs and the way the way they

1008
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:40,240
Speaker 5: interacted with the media back then, and it just was like, oh,

1009
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 5: just feels like the most wild East Coast time possible

1010
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 5: and extremely exciting team that also was full of drama

1011
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 5: and personality from like start to finish, and they were

1012
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:53,280
Speaker 5: like an open book. It seemed like a very fun

1013
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:57,360
Speaker 5: team to cover in an insanely competitive like media corps.

1014
00:48:57,360 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 4: Just that that to me, it would be a fun er.

1015
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:01,879
Speaker 2: To Buddy or ryans a great one because you could

1016
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 2: like point to multiple teams you could talk that would

1017
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 2: be a fun team. The one where he punched Kevin Gilbride,

1018
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:13,320
Speaker 2: that Oilers team West, Yes, the the eighty five Bears.

1019
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:16,880
Speaker 2: Of course, he gets carried off the field after that game.

1020
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 2: And guess you know, we we showed Joe. He said

1021
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:21,360
Speaker 2: at the top of the world.

1022
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 1: What was what was the question? King of the Hill,

1023
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 1: King of the Hill, King of the Hill. Guess who

1024
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:32,320
Speaker 1: the d C of that Jets team was? Buddy Ryan? Wow,

1025
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 1: So he had quite a football life. And then Rex

1026
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:36,320
Speaker 1: and Rob followed.

1027
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:42,360
Speaker 2: Of course, I would say, give me the mid nineties Cowboys.

1028
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 1: That would be a lot of a.

1029
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:49,800
Speaker 2: Young Jerah, you know, King of the Hill, Jarrah, Jimmy Johnson,

1030
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:53,360
Speaker 2: not the Switzer team, the Jimmy Johnson, team Aikman, Irvin

1031
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:58,879
Speaker 2: Emmett set against the backdrop of the best well done

1032
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 2: set against the back but the best rivalry of the nineties,

1033
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:04,799
Speaker 2: which was Cowboys Niners, which was the only one that

1034
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:10,880
Speaker 2: really to me approaches that would be Cults Patriots in

1035
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 2: the oughts. But I would say that when I think

1036
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 2: about those NFC title games in the early nineties, they were.

1037
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:19,799
Speaker 1: The the big game.

1038
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 2: Like it was just it was whoever won that game

1039
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 2: was going to hoist the Lombardi, So.

1040
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:27,919
Speaker 1: That would be my pick.

1041
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 3: They also had like Cowboys brettvav Packers too. There was

1042
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 3: a lot going on in the NFC. But I think

1043
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 3: the greatest and weirdest and most bizarre ending to a

1044
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:39,880
Speaker 3: lot of that was that Barry Switzer comes in and

1045
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:43,840
Speaker 3: replaces Jimmy Johnson, and it's like, you know, Barry Switzer

1046
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:46,319
Speaker 3: during the Pro Bowl, they showed him because they lost

1047
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 3: the NFC title game, like when you're in like he's

1048
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 3: sitting there eating a hot dog during and that today, no, you,

1049
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 3: no one cares about the probole. But it was kind

1050
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:54,320
Speaker 3: of like this guy is a whack job. And like

1051
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:56,400
Speaker 3: the reporting coming out of Dallas was like you know,

1052
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 3: Troy Aikman was beside himself, like post Jimmy Johnson was

1053
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 3: about his chaotic as it.

1054
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, Barry shout out to the I thought you were

1055
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:06,800
Speaker 2: gonna slip up there by the way, what.

1056
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 1: You mentioned Pro Bowl then you're talking the aby. I

1057
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 1: was out of my I wasn't.

1058
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 3: I was out of my head too, I wasn't even

1059
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:14,359
Speaker 3: thinking about that what the episode's about at this point.

1060
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:18,840
Speaker 5: The seventies, like the seventies Raiders or the seventies Steelers,

1061
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:21,239
Speaker 5: to me would be very fun because that, to me

1062
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 5: is sort of the birth of what we think of

1063
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 5: as the NFL in general. But it also you know,

1064
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:28,880
Speaker 5: reading the books from back then, it's like it was

1065
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:32,840
Speaker 5: so much looser the relationship between the media and the

1066
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 5: team and the fans. It was all like the business

1067
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 5: of it all was all turned down to such a

1068
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 5: degree that you really got to know these guys.

1069
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:41,480
Speaker 4: It was characters, like it was.

1070
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 5: They were all kind of in it together, and they

1071
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 5: were just insane characters in a way that that those

1072
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 5: teams seemed like they would be a lot of fun

1073
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:48,799
Speaker 5: to do.

1074
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:51,879
Speaker 2: All right, next one, I think West would have thrown

1075
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 2: out all right here, Sam asks Sam The Hobbit Underscore

1076
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:59,399
Speaker 2: ninety eight. Everyone, what were some of your favorite non

1077
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:04,839
Speaker 2: football related pieces of entertainment, books, movies, tv concerts this

1078
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 2: past year? Okay, with a couple of things. Anybody want

1079
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:10,359
Speaker 2: to start.

1080
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 5: I'll start with a couple of books that are right

1081
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 5: off the top of my dome. A is my favorite,

1082
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:18,400
Speaker 5: Beasting by Paul Murray, who is an Irish writer. Like

1083
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:20,240
Speaker 5: a family saga there. That's one of the best books

1084
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:22,799
Speaker 5: I've read in like the last twenty years. It is

1085
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 5: incredibly written. It's it's a it's a bit of a

1086
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 5: door stop, but it's it's still it's like six hundred pages,

1087
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 5: and yet it is incredible how talented he is. And

1088
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 5: then Changang All Stars I think would be a crowd

1089
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 5: pleaser too, which is a lot of fun by Nana

1090
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 5: Quame adij Brenna, which is h Whoa's little a little

1091
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 5: science fiction d futuristic where people in prison essentially choose

1092
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:49,839
Speaker 5: to fight in these like death to the death matchups.

1093
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 5: And yet it's like very literary and very very well done.

1094
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 5: The movie I like liked all the Oscar movies this year.

1095
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 5: I feel like none of them were bad, almost like

1096
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 5: like I like told overs that, like May December, I

1097
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 5: liked so many of them, but my two favorites are

1098
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:06,880
Speaker 5: probably American Fiction is just like the most purely entertaining

1099
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 5: and funny and just like the easiest watch. Like American

1100
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:13,400
Speaker 5: Fiction is really good with Jeffrey Wright. And Killers of

1101
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:16,360
Speaker 5: the Flower Moon is probably just the best best movie.

1102
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 4: See.

1103
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I enjoyed that one a lot. I liked May December.

1104
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 4: That was great.

1105
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 1: I liked Barbie.

1106
00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:23,320
Speaker 4: I like Barbiere.

1107
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 1: The new True.

1108
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:29,759
Speaker 3: Detective so far has been that excellent. I this I'm

1109
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 3: not saying this was a great movie, but I thought

1110
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 3: Air with Matt Damon and Jason Bateman was fun, very nostalgic,

1111
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 3: and it kind of they did a good job with it.

1112
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 1: It was I did love affleckas Phil Knight. I didn't

1113
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 1: like that well, it just for me. I sat and

1114
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:43,000
Speaker 1: watched it.

1115
00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 3: It was like totally and it was kind of cool

1116
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 3: to see Damon and Affleck back together. I watched Maestro

1117
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:50,840
Speaker 3: and hated it and yet couldn't stop thinking about it

1118
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:52,880
Speaker 3: and then kind of liked it, and I was like whatever,

1119
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:55,240
Speaker 3: I just couldn't stop thinking about it for some reason,

1120
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 3: like it's good performances, but I was just like I

1121
00:53:57,160 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 3: don't know something about it is getting under my skin.

1122
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 3: Jason Zumwald and I have been talking about a film

1123
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 3: that has been essentially like re released on Criterion with

1124
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 3: Vanessa Redgrave and Oliver Reed, directed by Ken Russell, called

1125
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:14,799
Speaker 3: The Devils, and it is. And I took my child

1126
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:16,440
Speaker 3: to The Exorcist a couple of weeks ago, and I

1127
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 3: would say that is one of the weirder cinema experiences

1128
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:19,719
Speaker 3: to take a child too.

1129
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:24,360
Speaker 4: But The Devil, his social services like what is loved it.

1130
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:25,319
Speaker 1: He loved it. He loved it.

1131
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 3: I don't know in transit, but he loved it. He

1132
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 3: wants he wanted to see something scary. But The Devils,

1133
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 3: which is not a horror film. It is it is

1134
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 3: and it isn't. And it's also comedic and strange and dark.

1135
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:37,840
Speaker 3: And it was made a long time ago. If you

1136
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:40,719
Speaker 3: have access to this, I don't would not say it's

1137
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 3: a gather the family around the hearth film on any level.

1138
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 3: There's like it's was banned in many many countries when

1139
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:48,919
Speaker 3: it was released, but it is incredible.

1140
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 4: It is he was like the mother of its day.

1141
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 3: It has mother vibes to it a little bit. It

1142
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 3: truly does. It truly does. But it's it's it's it

1143
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:00,720
Speaker 3: also feels like something shotgun from four five years.

1144
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 4: Ago, and it's pretty great. When was it released I

1145
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:05,840
Speaker 4: think the late sixth I.

1146
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 1: Will check that interesting. I am currently finishing the Uh.

1147
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 2: It's really sad and harrowing in different places, and especially

1148
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 2: after he passed away. But the Matthew Perry memoir about

1149
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 2: his life is really fascinating and against set because he

1150
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:29,400
Speaker 2: died obviously shortly after the book came out, and so

1151
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 2: much of it is about his battle with alcoholism and

1152
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:38,640
Speaker 2: various drug addiction. It's really crazy to get inside that world,

1153
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 2: especially when you're one of the most famous people in

1154
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 2: the world. I just watched that what is the name

1155
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 2: of it? It's the documentary on Netflix that just came

1156
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:48,680
Speaker 2: out on We Are the World.

1157
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 3: Oh, we were talking about that last night. I want

1158
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:51,960
Speaker 3: to see that.

1159
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:56,279
Speaker 2: It's called the Greatest Night in Pop, which is a

1160
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:59,720
Speaker 2: great great look at the recording of We Are the World,

1161
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:04,880
Speaker 2: the USA for Africa song to raise aid for you know,

1162
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 2: there was a major catastrophe of starvation, millions dying and

1163
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:15,240
Speaker 2: Ethiopia and they came together. Michael Jackson then Lionel Richie

1164
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:19,879
Speaker 2: wrote a song with you Know I'm just a couple

1165
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:23,279
Speaker 2: of days notice, and then they got every big star

1166
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 2: in American pop culture and music at the time to

1167
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:32,360
Speaker 2: record the song in one night and shoot the video.

1168
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:34,960
Speaker 2: It was the night of the American Music Awards, in

1169
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:38,520
Speaker 2: which Lionel Richie hosted and won, like swept all the awards,

1170
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:41,880
Speaker 2: and then he was leading the recording session with Quincy

1171
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:46,319
Speaker 2: Jones and Quincy Jones has a big sign above the door,

1172
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 2: the biggest stars in the world, check your ego at

1173
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:53,920
Speaker 2: the door, and everyone did except for Prince. Check out

1174
00:56:53,960 --> 00:57:00,719
Speaker 2: that documentary. Also, I It's true, Detective. I'm really enjoy Yeah,

1175
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:03,280
Speaker 2: returned to form Jody Foster.

1176
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:06,480
Speaker 1: Henry. Speaking of Henry, turned me on to this.

1177
00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 2: I've been a little bit of a slump looking for

1178
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:12,239
Speaker 2: a new music that I enjoy. But a band called

1179
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:16,080
Speaker 2: The Smile, which is comprised of Tom York from Radiohead,

1180
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 2: also Johnny Greenwood the guitarist, and a different drummer. So

1181
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 2: it's not Radiohead, but it kind of if you like

1182
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 2: in Rainbows Radiohead, which is my favorite Radiohead. The Smile

1183
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:29,920
Speaker 2: scratches that itch that just came out, and then a concert,

1184
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna be able to get to see it

1185
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 2: in Vegas again as a.

1186
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:34,880
Speaker 1: Long time You Two fan. You Two at the Sphere.

1187
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 2: I went there with my wife in November and that

1188
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 2: was an unbelievable experience, not just because I love their music,

1189
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 2: but the spectacle of it was very cool.

1190
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 1: I highly recommend it if you can make it all

1191
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:47,440
Speaker 1: right good.

1192
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 2: Next, let's see Fenshield asks, I've long wondered what team

1193
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 2: Mark supported during the three years of Brown ceased to exist.

1194
00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 2: I wonder that did he consider the Ravens please come

1195
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:02,440
Speaker 2: on fine shield as.

1196
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:05,000
Speaker 1: Hold out hope for their return or move to the wilderness.

1197
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 1: This is Mark.

1198
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 2: I've known you for many years now, fourteen years. I

1199
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:12,600
Speaker 2: don't know if I've ever talked about this with you.

1200
00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 4: I have a.

1201
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 3: Definitive answer for this. Well, uh, it makes me think

1202
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:19,840
Speaker 3: of Wes because I was obviously I was ho There

1203
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:21,800
Speaker 3: was news right away that Cleveland was going to fight

1204
00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 3: to get a team back, but you knew it was

1205
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 3: gonna take well, so that's a storyline. So I didn't

1206
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:29,440
Speaker 3: pick a new favorite team, but I was agnostic. I

1207
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 3: lived in Boulder at the time. There was this incredible

1208
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:34,680
Speaker 3: sports bar that I'd go to with friends and watch

1209
00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 3: like everything. But it was the Brett Favre Packers from

1210
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 3: essentially ninety six, ninety seven, ninety eight that we.

1211
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 4: Got a title out of it.

1212
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 2: Hey, yeah, like but yeah, you got complaint, your you

1213
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:46,960
Speaker 2: got your I guess I kind of did.

1214
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 3: I should have stopped complaining at that point. They're right,

1215
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:51,800
Speaker 3: but that was that. It was just like every Sunday

1216
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:53,920
Speaker 3: Brett Farr was like Brett far being about as hard

1217
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:55,640
Speaker 3: as you could as you could possibly want.

1218
00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:58,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was the good old days of Brett.

1219
00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:01,880
Speaker 4: Well right, right, three straight MVPs.

1220
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:03,880
Speaker 5: I have this article that goes up every year which

1221
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:05,680
Speaker 5: is the best Quarterbacks of all time. They call it

1222
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 5: the best Super Bowl Quarterbacks of all time, but anyone

1223
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:09,600
Speaker 5: you have to have started a Super Bowl to qualify.

1224
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:14,960
Speaker 2: Oh that's double, that's twenty dollars.

1225
00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 1: Hit you go.

1226
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:19,520
Speaker 4: It started as five, I thought before the show.

1227
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:20,360
Speaker 1: No, no, he doubled it.

1228
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:24,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's such a good cause that I kind of

1229
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:26,960
Speaker 5: want to just keep saying it and.

1230
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 4: I keep it organic. And you don't know where. You

1231
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 4: don't know where to put mahomes on this list.

1232
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:33,959
Speaker 2: I guess so many jobs he actually has at least

1233
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:36,919
Speaker 2: fourteen million in the bank currently, so yeah, you'll be good.

1234
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:41,960
Speaker 1: I have one other job, Mahomes.

1235
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:44,560
Speaker 5: Mahomes, Like I had to decide like where to put

1236
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:47,320
Speaker 5: Mahomes or Brett Favre on this list because like, of

1237
00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 5: course Mahomes is going to end up near the top.

1238
00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:51,960
Speaker 5: But the idea is just it's just accomplishments what you've

1239
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:56,520
Speaker 5: done so far. And it's like, man, Brett Farv won

1240
00:59:56,560 --> 00:59:59,960
Speaker 5: three straight MVPs for that. He had a shorter window

1241
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:02,960
Speaker 5: than most, but for that window, it's right there with

1242
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 5: any quarterback that's ever played, maybe better than any quarterback

1243
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:06,520
Speaker 5: that's ever played.

1244
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:07,120
Speaker 1: That dude.

1245
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:10,280
Speaker 2: And I and I'll say, and everything that happened in

1246
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:14,320
Speaker 2: recent years is terrible around far but one of the

1247
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:18,080
Speaker 2: great performances I've ever seen. And this this comes after

1248
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:21,760
Speaker 2: he had a one year stopover with with my team,

1249
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:24,160
Speaker 2: but when he went to the Vikings and had that

1250
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:26,160
Speaker 2: huge season, he was there two years, but the first

1251
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 2: year was awesome. Uh And and Greg Williams and Sean

1252
01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:36,440
Speaker 2: Payton essentially put out a hit on Brett Favre in

1253
01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:39,600
Speaker 2: the two thousand and nine NFC title game and he

1254
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:42,680
Speaker 2: took as vicious a beating as you will ever see

1255
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:46,240
Speaker 2: a quarterback take in that game, and that some of

1256
01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:50,600
Speaker 2: them got up every time they tried. They were literally

1257
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:55,280
Speaker 2: trying to injure him. There was money, you know, bounty.

1258
01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:58,880
Speaker 2: There was a bounty on basically killing Brett Favre, and

1259
01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:01,920
Speaker 2: Brett Farv knew it. Everybody knew it, and he kept

1260
01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:04,720
Speaker 2: fighting through it. Now Vikings fan than anybody else remembers

1261
01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:06,000
Speaker 2: the game, whils to say, well, he also through the

1262
01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:09,160
Speaker 2: interception to blow the game. I get that, but there

1263
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:11,280
Speaker 2: were a lot of elements in that game. One of

1264
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:13,960
Speaker 2: the more sneaky, painful losses in the history.

1265
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:14,920
Speaker 1: Of Minnesota that game.

1266
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:15,880
Speaker 4: They outplayed the game.

1267
01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:19,080
Speaker 2: But but I always had so much respect for far

1268
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:20,120
Speaker 2: the way he played that game.

1269
01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:22,920
Speaker 3: And like you know, the photos and images were released

1270
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:27,160
Speaker 3: after what Farv's lower body looked like after taking those hits.

1271
01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:30,320
Speaker 3: I mean it was like beyond medical science. And you're right,

1272
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:32,680
Speaker 3: he like he during the game never even.

1273
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:35,160
Speaker 5: Showed wait did you any And it also gave Jordan

1274
01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:38,040
Speaker 5: Love like an inspiration of how to end this Packer season.

1275
01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:41,000
Speaker 5: He's like, I'm gonna be exactly like Brett Favin, throw

1276
01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:42,240
Speaker 5: that exact same path.

1277
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:45,200
Speaker 1: Same throw. So when the Browns come back.

1278
01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:50,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they stink because they're an expansion franchise. Was

1279
01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:51,800
Speaker 2: it hard to let go of the Packers? Now it helped?

1280
01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:53,400
Speaker 2: I guess the Packers are then starting to come down

1281
01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:56,160
Speaker 2: a little bit. Right When the Browns came, I I will.

1282
01:01:56,000 --> 01:02:00,320
Speaker 3: Never forget like the night that they were relaunch on

1283
01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:03,360
Speaker 3: Sunday Night football in Week one against the Cordell Stewart

1284
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:07,280
Speaker 3: Bill Cower led Steelers. I went to that same Boulder

1285
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:11,440
Speaker 3: bar with an empty notebook that was gonna be my

1286
01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:14,400
Speaker 3: Brown's notebook, like for the year, and I was gonna

1287
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:16,760
Speaker 3: write dense notes. And I'd had a feeling that they

1288
01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:19,080
Speaker 3: were going to be at least interesting and special. And

1289
01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:20,520
Speaker 3: by the end of the first quarter they were down

1290
01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:23,880
Speaker 3: like twenty one and nothing, and I was like, this

1291
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:26,160
Speaker 3: notebook can go into the circular file. It was nothing

1292
01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:27,960
Speaker 3: to write or see about. It was a disaster, but

1293
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:30,240
Speaker 3: there was no conflict. I was all the way in

1294
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:32,680
Speaker 3: and like, you know, they never really got a whole

1295
01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:34,440
Speaker 3: lot better from that, but they made the playoffs in

1296
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 3: two thousand and two five David, like.

1297
01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:37,600
Speaker 4: When you're born in seven.

1298
01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:40,720
Speaker 1: Those first two years back was rough. Tim Couch.

1299
01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:46,720
Speaker 3: Chris Palmer was coach, back then like an offensive guru

1300
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:48,440
Speaker 3: who like you know, had been with a bunch of

1301
01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:51,520
Speaker 3: teams and was they that I will not go on

1302
01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:53,920
Speaker 3: about it, but the difference between like the Jaguars and

1303
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:57,400
Speaker 3: Panthers and you know, expansion teams that were given like

1304
01:02:57,440 --> 01:03:00,000
Speaker 3: a two year lead up and given a proper time

1305
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:03,320
Speaker 3: I'm to hire, and they were given you know, draft privilege.

1306
01:03:03,560 --> 01:03:06,400
Speaker 3: The Browns got really hosed, and it was a truncated

1307
01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:09,400
Speaker 3: process that I think helped those other teams in general

1308
01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:12,040
Speaker 3: to do a better job in any expansion team since

1309
01:03:12,320 --> 01:03:14,400
Speaker 3: Cleveland got really hosed in every possible way.

1310
01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:18,800
Speaker 5: His defensive coordinator was Bob Slowick. You know this league,

1311
01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:20,720
Speaker 5: hey man, you go different, different way.

1312
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:23,440
Speaker 4: It's a family. Romeo Carnal then took over for him

1313
01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:24,040
Speaker 4: next year.

1314
01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:28,480
Speaker 2: Pop quiz Mark, who was the leading rusher of the

1315
01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:31,120
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety nine expansion Browns.

1316
01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:33,520
Speaker 3: Oh, it's gonna kill me when I hear the name,

1317
01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:34,920
Speaker 3: because I used to talk about him all the time.

1318
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 3: But he was pulled from their little strange expansion draft.

1319
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:38,520
Speaker 7: Uh.

1320
01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:42,640
Speaker 1: Te Terry Kirby.

1321
01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:46,760
Speaker 3: Terry Kirby, all right, next you have filed, sir, But that's.

1322
01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:46,960
Speaker 1: A tough one.

1323
01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:48,840
Speaker 3: It's not like, no, no, no, but that's you know,

1324
01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:50,360
Speaker 3: it wasn't Jim Brown all right?

1325
01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:51,640
Speaker 1: Wait was not waffle house?

1326
01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:56,280
Speaker 2: Hamlin asks when will the pain from the Ravens losing stop? Now, Well,

1327
01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:58,520
Speaker 2: that's interesting coming off the heels of the Browns conversation.

1328
01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:03,400
Speaker 1: I will'll say this, it's an underrated fan pain.

1329
01:04:04,840 --> 01:04:09,080
Speaker 2: I've experienced it three times personally to lose in on

1330
01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:13,120
Speaker 2: Championship Sunday. Because if you if you lose AFC or

1331
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:16,440
Speaker 2: NFC Championship, you obviously it's one that you lose in

1332
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:21,040
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. Oh give it to me. It's for

1333
01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:25,120
Speaker 2: a good cause. And you'll soon find out it's one

1334
01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:27,680
Speaker 2: thing to lose. But then at least you get there

1335
01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:31,200
Speaker 2: if you if you fall short, you get title game. Yeah,

1336
01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:32,600
Speaker 2: you get the two weeks of the hype and the

1337
01:04:32,600 --> 01:04:37,960
Speaker 2: excitement around that. Nobody remembers how deep most teams went

1338
01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:41,640
Speaker 2: in their conference playoffs, and it's just like so empty

1339
01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:44,480
Speaker 2: when you're that close to making the big game and

1340
01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:45,000
Speaker 2: then you don't.

1341
01:04:45,040 --> 01:04:48,360
Speaker 3: I think also that game, particularly like coming out of it,

1342
01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:50,880
Speaker 3: it's like, wait, why didn't Lamar Jackson? Why did they

1343
01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:53,360
Speaker 3: just unleash him in full fury and unlead? It's a

1344
01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:55,200
Speaker 3: bit of a what if game where it's like, this

1345
01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:57,640
Speaker 3: isn't the Ravens team that we saw, especially.

1346
01:04:57,360 --> 01:04:58,160
Speaker 1: When you say Odell.

1347
01:04:58,240 --> 01:05:01,800
Speaker 2: They had some good NFL films of him sitting next

1348
01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:05,200
Speaker 2: to Lamar as the game started to spin out, and

1349
01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:08,520
Speaker 2: he's basically telling Lamar you can you could change the game,

1350
01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:12,400
Speaker 2: like when you run like that flips the script and

1351
01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:13,560
Speaker 2: and everyone watching.

1352
01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:14,360
Speaker 1: The game was saying the same thing.

1353
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:16,720
Speaker 2: How many times was he just living in that pocket

1354
01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:19,400
Speaker 2: instead of making plays with his legs and changing the

1355
01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:20,840
Speaker 2: feel and dynamic of that game.

1356
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:24,000
Speaker 4: Yes, the answer is like week one ish.

1357
01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:27,200
Speaker 5: I mean, it's never gonna leave you until unless they

1358
01:05:27,640 --> 01:05:30,439
Speaker 5: make him win the Super Bowl, but especially the next

1359
01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:31,320
Speaker 5: couple of weeks are.

1360
01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:36,000
Speaker 3: Oh, you are spinning out.

1361
01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:37,439
Speaker 4: I remember once.

1362
01:05:37,640 --> 01:05:39,960
Speaker 5: I remember when we first did these, I focused on

1363
01:05:40,040 --> 01:05:41,880
Speaker 5: it and it hasn't even crossed my mind to not

1364
01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:42,200
Speaker 5: say it.

1365
01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:43,640
Speaker 3: I was like, how did I get out of the

1366
01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:45,160
Speaker 3: eighty six Giants conversation?

1367
01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:46,560
Speaker 1: Scott, That's a.

1368
01:05:46,520 --> 01:05:49,240
Speaker 5: Good job, I think, though it gets more painful the

1369
01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:54,280
Speaker 5: further you go. Like if you lose where the Ravens lost, Uh,

1370
01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:56,080
Speaker 5: that stinks for the next couple of weeks, and you

1371
01:05:56,080 --> 01:05:57,760
Speaker 5: always believe that you should have been there, and it's

1372
01:05:57,760 --> 01:05:59,720
Speaker 5: gonna stink all off season, all the coverage of it

1373
01:06:00,520 --> 01:06:02,720
Speaker 5: if the Chiefs win. But it's even worse if you

1374
01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:04,880
Speaker 5: lose the next one, like it keeps getting worse.

1375
01:06:06,120 --> 01:06:11,160
Speaker 1: I've said this reason what happened there, Chiefs?

1376
01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:15,040
Speaker 4: Well you can't. Oh, you can't say chief.

1377
01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:21,840
Speaker 1: It's like fifty bucks right now. Fifty that's not a

1378
01:06:22,600 --> 01:06:24,080
Speaker 1: that's that's a little bit of scratch.

1379
01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:28,919
Speaker 2: Anyway, if our teams ever get to the big game,

1380
01:06:29,160 --> 01:06:33,400
Speaker 2: we gotta win. It cannot get there, they cannot cannot

1381
01:06:33,560 --> 01:06:39,680
Speaker 2: no one. All right, let's check a couple more Gussie

1382
01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:44,240
Speaker 2: Maine asks, seeing as how the Vikings will probably never

1383
01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:46,960
Speaker 2: be the team of ATM again, well you never know.

1384
01:06:47,040 --> 01:06:48,040
Speaker 1: Third time could be the Tiant.

1385
01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:51,959
Speaker 2: Are there any other teams that can't ever be team

1386
01:06:52,040 --> 01:06:52,600
Speaker 2: of ATM?

1387
01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:53,439
Speaker 1: That's a good one.

1388
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:58,800
Speaker 5: Let's see ever, I would say, see Washington would have

1389
01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:00,800
Speaker 5: been my answer until the owner change, but now I'm

1390
01:07:00,800 --> 01:07:01,280
Speaker 5: open minded.

1391
01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:03,640
Speaker 1: New England would have been mine. But there they can't

1392
01:07:03,640 --> 01:07:04,440
Speaker 1: world know, Yeah, the.

1393
01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:07,320
Speaker 5: Jets can't, Like we can't have more Jets talking this,

1394
01:07:07,720 --> 01:07:11,560
Speaker 5: I understand. And that's just my Patriots fandom too.

1395
01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:16,080
Speaker 2: Obviously, the Ravens can't because of Mark. I would say

1396
01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:20,600
Speaker 2: probably the AFC North. Well, the Bengals I think are

1397
01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:21,680
Speaker 2: up for.

1398
01:07:21,600 --> 01:07:25,040
Speaker 3: The Bengals kind of secretly spiritually were for one season

1399
01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:25,840
Speaker 3: there um.

1400
01:07:26,520 --> 01:07:29,160
Speaker 5: Other than that, Yeah, when you say ever, like it's

1401
01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:31,320
Speaker 5: really hard to imagine the forty nine ers in this

1402
01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:34,280
Speaker 5: current iteration, give me ten more dollars there.

1403
01:07:34,360 --> 01:07:37,640
Speaker 3: Oh well, or the team they're about to play.

1404
01:07:38,880 --> 01:07:40,560
Speaker 5: But you never know, and like if if this show

1405
01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:44,600
Speaker 5: is lucky enough to still be doing it, and.

1406
01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:45,280
Speaker 3: I guess if you like, maybe if you look it

1407
01:07:45,360 --> 01:07:46,760
Speaker 3: like change where we are today.

1408
01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:48,640
Speaker 1: There's a handful of teams that I would never see

1409
01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:51,120
Speaker 1: that's it. Certainly the team that plays at Arrowhead.

1410
01:07:52,080 --> 01:07:53,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, they are never going to be the team of

1411
01:07:53,840 --> 01:07:56,440
Speaker 2: atn and there's got to be a certain plucking spirit

1412
01:07:56,520 --> 01:07:57,960
Speaker 2: to them though the true.

1413
01:07:57,680 --> 01:08:01,200
Speaker 1: Giants don't possess. All right, what's ex.

1414
01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:06,160
Speaker 2: Dennis Kelly asks what team would you most like to

1415
01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:07,840
Speaker 2: be a fan of in the next three to five

1416
01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:10,960
Speaker 2: years with an exciting future? And what team could you

1417
01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:13,680
Speaker 2: not be paid to be a fan of in the

1418
01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:14,680
Speaker 2: upcoming years?

1419
01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:17,880
Speaker 3: All right, easy for me on the first part.

1420
01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:18,760
Speaker 1: Texans.

1421
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:21,240
Speaker 3: I actually love that they found a way to keep

1422
01:08:21,400 --> 01:08:24,160
Speaker 3: Bobby slowick around. I'm sure money was involved there and

1423
01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:25,280
Speaker 3: who knows what else.

1424
01:08:25,080 --> 01:08:27,599
Speaker 4: But we didn't get a job offer. I think that's

1425
01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:28,320
Speaker 4: the number one.

1426
01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:32,760
Speaker 5: Thing, well in general, one the insiders on where they

1427
01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:34,920
Speaker 5: always make a big deal of, like he's coming back.

1428
01:08:35,080 --> 01:08:35,960
Speaker 4: You didn't get a job.

1429
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:38,040
Speaker 3: Well, just the faith that he didn't, Yes, Like just

1430
01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:40,280
Speaker 3: the fact that, like if you're the defensive coach, like

1431
01:08:40,320 --> 01:08:42,960
Speaker 3: you keep the guy that's running your offense them for

1432
01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:47,320
Speaker 3: obvious reasons. Couldn't root for I don't know, a bunch

1433
01:08:47,360 --> 01:08:49,120
Speaker 3: of teams annoying me. That's I'd have to think about

1434
01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:50,280
Speaker 3: that one.

1435
01:08:51,400 --> 01:08:53,960
Speaker 5: Well, you you mentioned one in the previous show, which

1436
01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:56,800
Speaker 5: I that you couldn't root for the Chargers, which I

1437
01:08:56,800 --> 01:08:59,760
Speaker 5: think would be close to my list of the fun one.

1438
01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:02,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, because it.

1439
01:09:02,360 --> 01:09:02,920
Speaker 4: Just be in St.

1440
01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:07,760
Speaker 5: Texans popped into my mind first too for a fun team,

1441
01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:10,080
Speaker 5: but I think the Chargers. Chargers might be fun because.

1442
01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:13,800
Speaker 3: I was I was just saying the Chargers organization can't

1443
01:09:13,840 --> 01:09:14,280
Speaker 3: go create.

1444
01:09:14,280 --> 01:09:16,160
Speaker 1: I think it'd be fun to be a fan of.

1445
01:09:16,320 --> 01:09:19,400
Speaker 5: Okay, the you know what strikes me right now is

1446
01:09:19,479 --> 01:09:23,559
Speaker 5: the Saints. Now, they could all this could get fleshed out,

1447
01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:26,000
Speaker 5: but there's such on the negative. On the negative side,

1448
01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:29,599
Speaker 5: there's something about this group running this team in this

1449
01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:30,400
Speaker 5: current ineration.

1450
01:09:30,479 --> 01:09:32,240
Speaker 4: That's the I would not want to become a fan

1451
01:09:32,240 --> 01:09:32,639
Speaker 4: of this team.

1452
01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:34,800
Speaker 1: I couldn't do Cowboys two more.

1453
01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:44,720
Speaker 2: Stephen Lee, we need to bring back hashtag Greg likes rap.

1454
01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:49,960
Speaker 5: He does, I mean, but I like other music just as.

1455
01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:54,400
Speaker 2: Well hashtag Greg likes rat. You're our rap officionado of

1456
01:09:54,439 --> 01:09:57,040
Speaker 2: the podcast. With that being said, as a former New

1457
01:09:57,160 --> 01:10:00,759
Speaker 2: Orleans inhabitant, that's interesting when I'm putting it cash Money

1458
01:10:00,760 --> 01:10:03,479
Speaker 2: Millionaires or No Limit Soldiers, that's a big one.

1459
01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:06,000
Speaker 5: I could be speaking out of turn here, but I

1460
01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:09,200
Speaker 5: feel like this sort of question would only come from

1461
01:10:09,240 --> 01:10:13,680
Speaker 5: a non New orleneas like, Okay, it's not much of

1462
01:10:13,680 --> 01:10:17,800
Speaker 5: a competation. What No Limit accomplished was was great. You know,

1463
01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:19,920
Speaker 5: they made the most with with what they have, but

1464
01:10:20,080 --> 01:10:23,479
Speaker 5: cash Money Millionaires. When I was there, which was when

1465
01:10:23,479 --> 01:10:26,960
Speaker 5: both these crews were coming in nineties early too, they

1466
01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:29,320
Speaker 5: were like the Beatles in Liverpool, I mean, and they're

1467
01:10:29,400 --> 01:10:34,000
Speaker 5: just far more talented, juvenile and the Beatles No then

1468
01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:36,240
Speaker 5: the then the No Limit Soldiers.

1469
01:10:36,280 --> 01:10:37,920
Speaker 2: I mean, No Limit was fun, but come on, I

1470
01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:41,439
Speaker 2: gotta support master P. I always do I'm very anti

1471
01:10:41,479 --> 01:10:43,760
Speaker 2: Big Sean very I.

1472
01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:45,479
Speaker 5: Mean he was he was fun too, but I mean,

1473
01:10:45,479 --> 01:10:50,480
Speaker 5: how many how many bangers did did No Limit really.

1474
01:10:50,280 --> 01:10:51,479
Speaker 1: Have No Limit?

1475
01:10:52,320 --> 01:10:55,880
Speaker 2: Remember the all the album covers, they all had the

1476
01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:57,560
Speaker 2: same general.

1477
01:10:57,280 --> 01:11:00,000
Speaker 4: They got it done, they got well.

1478
01:11:00,160 --> 01:11:03,759
Speaker 2: The aesthetic it was a very garish like bright colors.

1479
01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:06,559
Speaker 2: It was kind of was it kind of animated and

1480
01:11:06,560 --> 01:11:07,640
Speaker 2: then like kind of blowing out.

1481
01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:09,920
Speaker 5: Great, they're kind of coming back. People now are like

1482
01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:15,200
Speaker 5: copying them. I love master p his commercial where he

1483
01:11:15,320 --> 01:11:19,000
Speaker 5: was selling like his own phone, the No Limit phone

1484
01:11:19,000 --> 01:11:21,400
Speaker 5: that you could buy that just ran NonStop in New

1485
01:11:21,479 --> 01:11:22,880
Speaker 5: Orleans is seared into my brain.

1486
01:11:23,800 --> 01:11:26,439
Speaker 2: Yes, all right, one more last question, good one, Greg

1487
01:11:26,840 --> 01:11:31,080
Speaker 2: see people wanted to hear it'd been too long. Chris

1488
01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:34,280
Speaker 2: at TN oilers ask where does Kirk land a little

1489
01:11:35,439 --> 01:11:37,920
Speaker 2: lookhead of? And we could talk kind of a landscape

1490
01:11:37,920 --> 01:11:41,360
Speaker 2: of some quarterbacks in general as we look ahead to

1491
01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:45,360
Speaker 2: the off season. I thought we were a little bit

1492
01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:48,240
Speaker 2: and we talked about some buyer b aware with Cousins

1493
01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:53,200
Speaker 2: on Wednesday, but a little circaissance, not just in how

1494
01:11:53,200 --> 01:11:55,479
Speaker 2: the public views him, but the Vikings.

1495
01:11:55,479 --> 01:11:57,400
Speaker 1: I felt like they were falling in love with Kirk again.

1496
01:11:57,479 --> 01:12:01,040
Speaker 2: Last year and then to see what happened when betrayed

1497
01:12:01,120 --> 01:12:05,160
Speaker 2: both us and the Vikings with his play, and then

1498
01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:06,000
Speaker 2: everything had happened.

1499
01:12:06,280 --> 01:12:08,840
Speaker 4: It's not like any of his successors fared any better.

1500
01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:12,640
Speaker 2: But yes, but I kind of would say that the

1501
01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:15,080
Speaker 2: odds on favorite would be him staying in Minnesota.

1502
01:12:15,200 --> 01:12:18,719
Speaker 3: But I mean to your argument from the other show

1503
01:12:18,800 --> 01:12:23,000
Speaker 3: is they also would have concerns I think fairly about

1504
01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:26,560
Speaker 3: what physical shape he is in post Achilles.

1505
01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:28,439
Speaker 1: Like that was Greg's argument.

1506
01:12:28,600 --> 01:12:31,320
Speaker 5: Well, it's also like, is this the time for them

1507
01:12:31,360 --> 01:12:35,000
Speaker 5: as an organization to reset? I think you're right Dan

1508
01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:39,160
Speaker 5: that they are the most likely destination. But for the

1509
01:12:39,200 --> 01:12:42,080
Speaker 5: sake of this conversation, I think it's fun to consider

1510
01:12:42,120 --> 01:12:44,760
Speaker 5: the Denver Broncos as an underrated team. I think he

1511
01:12:44,760 --> 01:12:46,760
Speaker 5: would fit well with pay and I think they're very

1512
01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:51,200
Speaker 5: much in win now mode and they have no quarterback.

1513
01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:53,040
Speaker 5: I don't think Russell Wilson is going to be an

1514
01:12:53,080 --> 01:12:57,759
Speaker 5: option there and a real wildcard here. Offensive staff is changing,

1515
01:12:57,880 --> 01:12:59,960
Speaker 5: but just throwing it out there, a ton of cap space,

1516
01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:03,240
Speaker 5: veteran team, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, just I don't.

1517
01:13:03,080 --> 01:13:04,599
Speaker 4: I was trying to think of like where he would

1518
01:13:04,640 --> 01:13:05,880
Speaker 4: be I liked I like that.

1519
01:13:06,240 --> 01:13:09,680
Speaker 5: I think Denver actually strikes me as the team that

1520
01:13:09,720 --> 01:13:10,920
Speaker 5: would pay the money for him.

1521
01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:16,080
Speaker 3: Maybe I wish he would go to the Pittsburgh Steelers.

1522
01:13:16,600 --> 01:13:17,680
Speaker 4: That'd be fun, he.

1523
01:13:17,960 --> 01:13:20,080
Speaker 2: Uh, I like him just walking in there and saying,

1524
01:13:20,160 --> 01:13:22,839
Speaker 2: Kenny Pickett, give me number eight and get the hell.

1525
01:13:22,640 --> 01:13:24,920
Speaker 1: Out of here, Rue, You're gone.

1526
01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:29,720
Speaker 2: He'd weirdly fit the Steelers, but I wouldn't get in

1527
01:13:29,720 --> 01:13:34,120
Speaker 2: a Pittsburgh uniform. That just and that team. Yeah, listen,

1528
01:13:34,439 --> 01:13:36,920
Speaker 2: careful what you wish for. You give them a proficient

1529
01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:40,680
Speaker 2: quarterback with the skill players there, with that defense, the

1530
01:13:40,720 --> 01:13:42,120
Speaker 2: Steelers could be, you know, back in.

1531
01:13:42,120 --> 01:13:45,360
Speaker 1: The AFC Championship game themselves very quickly. All right? Uh?

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01:13:45,439 --> 01:13:46,040
Speaker 1: Is that it? Yeah?

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01:13:46,040 --> 01:13:48,479
Speaker 2: That's any other quarterbacks to throw out there? Just by

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01:13:48,479 --> 01:13:51,080
Speaker 2: the way, while we're here, who else is?

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01:13:51,080 --> 01:13:54,120
Speaker 1: So? The banker is obviously a figure of interest.

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01:13:54,360 --> 01:13:58,920
Speaker 4: Russell Wilson, rob justin Field. See Russell Wilson to me,

1537
01:13:59,000 --> 01:14:00,439
Speaker 4: seems like a dealer.

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01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:03,200
Speaker 5: The Falcons, I think, will be looking for one, and

1539
01:14:03,280 --> 01:14:06,599
Speaker 5: Cousins could fit that offense quite well too.

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01:14:07,240 --> 01:14:11,320
Speaker 3: I am very suspicious. I'm very suspicious of a team

1541
01:14:11,360 --> 01:14:14,479
Speaker 3: signing up for Russell Wilson as their starter.

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01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:18,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be. I feel like that would be God.

1543
01:14:18,680 --> 01:14:22,040
Speaker 2: Would any be excited in Pittsburgh?

1544
01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:23,840
Speaker 1: No, I don't know. I don't think he think he

1545
01:14:23,920 --> 01:14:24,280
Speaker 1: needs to.

1546
01:14:25,240 --> 01:14:27,719
Speaker 2: I feel like Russ almost has to do a Baker

1547
01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:30,240
Speaker 2: where he needs to go somewhere and win a job

1548
01:14:30,280 --> 01:14:32,640
Speaker 2: and then kind of try to rest out.

1549
01:14:32,720 --> 01:14:34,519
Speaker 5: I think it's safe to say Jamis Winston will be

1550
01:14:34,520 --> 01:14:36,639
Speaker 5: looking for a new job after how last season.

1551
01:14:37,080 --> 01:14:38,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm curious.

1552
01:14:38,960 --> 01:14:39,799
Speaker 4: I am curious.

1553
01:14:39,960 --> 01:14:40,559
Speaker 1: I know I was.

1554
01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:44,960
Speaker 2: This wasn't an overly popular take, but if he will

1555
01:14:45,000 --> 01:14:48,320
Speaker 2: have a slightly chillier market based on how the season ended.

1556
01:14:48,479 --> 01:14:50,960
Speaker 4: His market was very chilly last year, Like cow.

1557
01:14:50,840 --> 01:14:52,439
Speaker 2: Many head coach is gonna be like, Oh that's the

1558
01:14:52,439 --> 01:14:53,800
Speaker 2: guy I want my locker room.

1559
01:14:53,920 --> 01:14:55,960
Speaker 3: I mean it was an upset he stayed with the Saints.

1560
01:14:55,640 --> 01:14:58,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, this season he didn't have a ton of interest, So.

1561
01:14:58,880 --> 01:15:04,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, Raiders got to find someone. Maybe Justin Field's in

1562
01:15:04,080 --> 01:15:04,920
Speaker 3: a Raiders uniform.

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01:15:05,120 --> 01:15:05,680
Speaker 4: I could see that.

1564
01:15:06,360 --> 01:15:08,759
Speaker 1: Sure, Sure anything else.

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01:15:10,520 --> 01:15:13,960
Speaker 3: Good job, good job, everybody, Thank you raised a lot

1566
01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:14,280
Speaker 3: of money.

1567
01:15:14,320 --> 01:15:15,080
Speaker 4: What a day.

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01:15:15,280 --> 01:15:18,040
Speaker 5: This is one of those days where this feels like

1569
01:15:18,479 --> 01:15:21,360
Speaker 5: the music podcast we've done, and like it's a very

1570
01:15:21,400 --> 01:15:23,840
Speaker 5: podcasting podcast, and then we're just hearing this studio with

1571
01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:25,920
Speaker 5: these bright lights and this is gonna air on fast

1572
01:15:25,920 --> 01:15:27,560
Speaker 5: and there's all those people behind the class and I

1573
01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:27,760
Speaker 5: was like.

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01:15:27,760 --> 01:15:31,919
Speaker 1: Well, wait does that really work? Madison behind the glass?

1575
01:15:32,120 --> 01:15:34,160
Speaker 1: Who else is there? Who's there?

1576
01:15:34,479 --> 01:15:38,719
Speaker 2: Eric Roberts, Josh behind the glass, Cynthia and of course

1577
01:15:39,200 --> 01:15:45,840
Speaker 2: Eric the producer. Thank you you guys all sharing this

1578
01:15:45,880 --> 01:15:49,599
Speaker 2: award equally so when you if you want to call

1579
01:15:49,720 --> 01:15:54,479
Speaker 2: up your moms and dads back today, we won.

1580
01:15:57,200 --> 01:16:01,479
Speaker 1: We shared this great success around the NFL.

1581
01:16:03,280 --> 01:16:06,679
Speaker 2: To everyone else who attempted to defeat us, whether it's

1582
01:16:06,760 --> 01:16:14,719
Speaker 2: the fellow nominees or old bosses, past lovers, or the

1583
01:16:14,800 --> 01:16:19,520
Speaker 2: past lovers, or the enemies who have yet to reveal themselves.

1584
01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:23,120
Speaker 2: We are Brett fav in the two thousand and nine

1585
01:16:23,200 --> 01:16:29,000
Speaker 2: NFC title game. But there is no interception, Oh just touchdowns.

1586
01:16:28,720 --> 01:16:35,680
Speaker 1: Just seeds everywhere. Come after us and heed the call.