WEBVTT - Is That What You're Wearing?? 0:00:00.880 --> 0:00:04.360 This is How Men Think with brooks Like and Gavin 0:00:04.400 --> 0:00:09.120 degrab And I heard radio podcast feeling It. I love 0:00:09.160 --> 0:00:13.399 when we get that intro. Hey, Gav, I feel it feeling. Yeah, 0:00:13.560 --> 0:00:16.520 Welcome to another episode of How Men Think. My name 0:00:16.600 --> 0:00:19.000 is brooks Like, and we have two co hosts here 0:00:19.040 --> 0:00:22.640 with us. We have my usual wing man, Mr Gavin 0:00:22.680 --> 0:00:27.280 de Great to see you, good mornings. You also have Buddy, 0:00:27.320 --> 0:00:29.200 your dog with you. He's sitting here with us. I do. 0:00:29.280 --> 0:00:31.720 He's smelling the coffee cake. He's smelling your coffee cake. 0:00:31.760 --> 0:00:35.839 And we have new co host her second actually her 0:00:35.840 --> 0:00:38.080 second time on the show, first time that I've been 0:00:38.080 --> 0:00:41.640 on the show with her. Welcome back, Miss Taitia Adams. 0:00:41.640 --> 0:00:45.120 Thanks for commentation. I'm so happy to be here. So 0:00:45.159 --> 0:00:47.839 we are here, that's right. We are here at a 0:00:48.000 --> 0:00:51.640 T and T Pebble Beach program in California. We're checking 0:00:51.640 --> 0:00:53.880 out this weekend. We're watching some golf and we're recording 0:00:53.880 --> 0:00:57.880 some podcasts. And Gavin, you're such a fantastic golfer that 0:00:58.440 --> 0:01:03.720 we're gonna watch you live for the swing, your handicap 0:01:05.160 --> 0:01:10.679 um all of my limbs. Do you golf, buddy? No, 0:01:11.080 --> 0:01:14.959 I wouldn't golfing once upon time, I wouldn't say golfing, 0:01:15.560 --> 0:01:18.120 and uh, let's say it was my first time and 0:01:18.160 --> 0:01:19.760 the guy I said, hey, would you mind giving me 0:01:19.760 --> 0:01:22.160 a quick lesson because it was more like a meet 0:01:22.160 --> 0:01:24.760 and greet on a golf course. He said sure, and 0:01:24.840 --> 0:01:26.560 we sit there for about three minutes. He said, just 0:01:26.600 --> 0:01:29.600 swing this way and do this, and I said, no problem. 0:01:29.640 --> 0:01:32.560 And I crushed the ball and he was like, okay, 0:01:32.680 --> 0:01:34.880 and then I crushed the ball again. And I crushed 0:01:34.920 --> 0:01:37.759 the ball again. But the problem was I kept hitting 0:01:37.760 --> 0:01:39.960 the ball at a ninety degree angle to my right 0:01:40.240 --> 0:01:42.479 and he said, maybe you should just face the clubhouse 0:01:45.760 --> 0:01:47.560 and then you gave it up. Yeah. I was like, 0:01:47.640 --> 0:01:49.480 all right, that's it for me. I think I'm out 0:01:49.480 --> 0:01:53.080 of here. Um I have in the past, I've tried. 0:01:53.120 --> 0:01:56.120 I've taken a couple of lessons. I do have some clubs. Yeah, 0:01:56.160 --> 0:01:59.000 they're pink. They're really cute. I own a couple of 0:01:59.040 --> 0:02:00.920 golf skirts. It's a whole reason why I got into 0:02:00.920 --> 0:02:02.880 the sport, to quite honest with you, that it's quite cute. 0:02:02.880 --> 0:02:07.200 I love golf skirt. That's higher the golf retire um. 0:02:07.240 --> 0:02:10.640 That's awesome. I'm actually we didn't know right before this 0:02:10.680 --> 0:02:13.120 podcast began that you were even going to be here, Gav. 0:02:14.280 --> 0:02:17.919 I didn't know either. Literally, we're supposed to record, We're 0:02:17.919 --> 0:02:20.840 supposed to record this, and two minutes before we start recording, 0:02:20.880 --> 0:02:22.760 Amy's like, Brooks, you and Tasi are gonna have to 0:02:22.760 --> 0:02:25.600 do this yourselves, because Gavin, you're supposed to be here yesterday. 0:02:26.080 --> 0:02:31.680 You know, showed by the way that showed up. That 0:02:31.760 --> 0:02:36.720 showed up according to my calculations, whould be in my schedule. 0:02:36.840 --> 0:02:39.519 What had happened was I was supposed to be here 0:02:41.160 --> 0:02:45.240 whatever time yesterday in order to do the podcast today. 0:02:45.360 --> 0:02:50.040 And then the night before I was told, oh, we'll 0:02:50.040 --> 0:02:53.080 do We'll start doing the show tomorrow, and I was like, 0:02:53.120 --> 0:02:55.280 oh wait a second, I have stuff to pack, all 0:02:55.360 --> 0:02:58.679 my stuff and drive up and stuff like that. So 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:06.280 three your guys fault, you know. Can I tell you 0:03:06.360 --> 0:03:09.320 my story with how I got here? Yes, this is good, 0:03:10.960 --> 0:03:14.280 I told Tashi yesterday because she was here yesterday. Yeah, 0:03:15.040 --> 0:03:19.160 I was so listen to this, listen to this. So 0:03:19.240 --> 0:03:22.440 I go to fly out yesterday morning from l A. 0:03:22.960 --> 0:03:25.639 So I dropped my dog off, go to fly out, 0:03:25.639 --> 0:03:27.560 go to the airport, go to check in, and the 0:03:27.639 --> 0:03:32.240 lady says, um, yeah, we don't fly to Monterey from here. 0:03:32.960 --> 0:03:35.920 And I'm like, well, my ticket says you do and 0:03:36.000 --> 0:03:38.240 you're United and I'm flying with you. And she says, no, 0:03:38.320 --> 0:03:40.480 we don't. And so I look at my ticket and 0:03:40.520 --> 0:03:44.640 it's not Burbank Airport, it's l A X Airport. So 0:03:44.680 --> 0:03:48.000 I went to the completely wrong airport to fly out, 0:03:50.040 --> 0:03:51.800 first time I've ever done that. And I phone Amy. 0:03:51.800 --> 0:03:54.400 I'm like, Amy, I'm gonna miss my flight. UM need 0:03:54.440 --> 0:03:56.880 to reschedule me. So she reschedules me, and then you'll 0:03:56.920 --> 0:03:58.840 reschedules me a flight. I go to l A X. 0:03:59.320 --> 0:04:01.400 You guys are calling you guys were amazing about it. 0:04:01.600 --> 0:04:03.880 They just rescheduled me for a couple hours later. I 0:04:03.920 --> 0:04:06.360 go to l A X and I'm like, okay, getting 0:04:06.400 --> 0:04:08.640 on the plane and I find out what seed I 0:04:08.680 --> 0:04:13.840 have b okay that the ticket I'm booked is basic economy. 0:04:14.040 --> 0:04:16.400 You can't get a less like you can't get on 0:04:16.880 --> 0:04:20.120 an airplane for less than basic economy. I get on, 0:04:20.240 --> 0:04:23.159 I go to thirteen B and it turns out that 0:04:23.720 --> 0:04:27.440 six inches away from my nose is the lavatory. I 0:04:27.480 --> 0:04:30.640 am seated, kidding me, No, I'm not. I am seated 0:04:30.920 --> 0:04:34.480 right next with the bathroom. Yeah, he should have just 0:04:34.520 --> 0:04:36.880 sat in the bathroom. I was the same, Yeah, it 0:04:36.920 --> 0:04:39.400 would have been better, just like you guys, mind if 0:04:39.440 --> 0:04:42.440 I put my feet up on the toilet to kind 0:04:42.440 --> 0:04:45.400 of stretch out a little bit over here. So it 0:04:45.520 --> 0:04:46.880 was a day. It was a day for me. I 0:04:46.880 --> 0:04:48.760 missed the flight, went to the wrong airports the flight, 0:04:48.839 --> 0:04:51.160 and then sat by the toilet on the way here. 0:04:51.440 --> 0:04:53.640 That's terrible. Did you feel like you smelled like one 0:04:53.680 --> 0:04:56.599 of those pink urinald cakes when you landed? No, I 0:04:56.600 --> 0:04:59.000 did not know. I got in and took a shower. Though. 0:05:00.160 --> 0:05:04.760 What happens? Then I text Brooks and I said, well, 0:05:04.760 --> 0:05:07.520 because you're late, comes straight to the golf course, go 0:05:07.720 --> 0:05:11.239 right to the lodge at Pebble Beach. In like text, 0:05:11.680 --> 0:05:13.320 and there was the second line. It was like perfect, 0:05:13.360 --> 0:05:17.320 you couldn't have it. You're like, bring Logs to Pebble Beach. 0:05:19.560 --> 0:05:23.960 He calls me and he's like I'm here, and I'm like, great, okay, 0:05:24.040 --> 0:05:26.680 where are you? And He's like, I'm right in the front. 0:05:27.800 --> 0:05:30.440 So I'm thinking, okay, well we're at the little market. 0:05:30.560 --> 0:05:33.120 So I said, ask anyone you see where the market 0:05:33.240 --> 0:05:35.919 is where's the market? And you hear like, some dude, 0:05:35.920 --> 0:05:39.159 go there's no market. So I'm like, can you ask 0:05:39.240 --> 0:05:45.000 someone Brooks where are you? He is at a hotel 0:05:47.440 --> 0:05:51.039 and guess like you're getting to know me. But Gab 0:05:51.080 --> 0:05:53.520 knows me. He knows that, like I'm a prompt I'm on, 0:05:54.040 --> 0:05:58.240 I don't and I was absolutely Danielle's shaking her head 0:05:58.680 --> 0:06:01.320 and I think I text you this Amy. I'm like, 0:06:01.760 --> 0:06:05.160 this is how Gavin feels every single day of the fights. 0:06:05.839 --> 0:06:07.920 But guess what the difference between you and me is. 0:06:08.360 --> 0:06:11.839 While I'm lost, I'm kind of just enjoying the view. 0:06:12.320 --> 0:06:14.919 I did too, and just relaxed. And you know, I 0:06:14.960 --> 0:06:17.160 have been to the wrong airport before, but it was 0:06:17.240 --> 0:06:20.239 to pick up somebody, just to pick up my older brother, 0:06:20.320 --> 0:06:23.680 and you could imagine what that was like. I was like, yeah, yeah, 0:06:23.680 --> 0:06:25.920 I'm here, Well where are you? I'm at such and 0:06:25.960 --> 0:06:28.400 Suminal I was like, I'm right there, man, just look 0:06:28.440 --> 0:06:31.360 for the car, like where are you? I don't see 0:06:31.400 --> 0:06:35.120 I'm waving my hands. You know. He's like, did I 0:06:35.120 --> 0:06:42.160 realize I had gone to the wrong airport to pick him? Gosh? 0:06:42.240 --> 0:06:46.360 And he was like, you such an idiot. Mistakes happen. 0:06:46.440 --> 0:06:49.280 But so today's episode, and this is why we have 0:06:49.320 --> 0:06:52.520 Tasha on here is we want to talk about men's grooming, 0:06:53.040 --> 0:06:55.120 the importance of men's grooming. We want to as men, 0:06:55.160 --> 0:06:56.440 we want to learn. We have a guest that's going 0:06:56.480 --> 0:06:58.000 to come on and teach us a little bit about 0:06:58.000 --> 0:07:01.560 grooming and self care. Are so excited for that. And 0:07:01.600 --> 0:07:05.600 then we want your perspective tation because really men, men 0:07:05.680 --> 0:07:08.640 want to groom to impress women or to impress a partner, 0:07:09.240 --> 0:07:12.520 and so we want a woman's take on men's grooming. 0:07:12.600 --> 0:07:15.240 Men's self care doesn't matter? Does it not matter? How 0:07:15.320 --> 0:07:17.680 much does it matter? And how much can you push 0:07:17.720 --> 0:07:21.360 it on a guy if he's not doing it? And 0:07:21.360 --> 0:07:25.320 then also what parts of the body, what parts of 0:07:25.360 --> 0:07:30.400 the body need to be groomed? Can I just start 0:07:30.440 --> 0:07:32.680 right with this question for you guys? How do you feel? 0:07:33.560 --> 0:07:35.160 And I don't know how to say this properly that 0:07:35.200 --> 0:07:37.840 we want to dress you, So I do it. I 0:07:38.000 --> 0:07:41.800 trick it by just buying gifts all the time of 0:07:41.920 --> 0:07:45.600 clothes and so it seems like, no, you look so great, 0:07:45.600 --> 0:07:47.920 and then I got you this because really it's like, no, 0:07:48.320 --> 0:07:51.000 I'm not super crazy about some of the stuff you wear. 0:07:51.040 --> 0:07:53.440 But if you wear this, I'm gonna be into it. 0:07:53.520 --> 0:07:56.640 Sounds a huge thing. I would love it if I 0:07:56.760 --> 0:07:59.480 never had to buy one article of clothing again the 0:07:59.480 --> 0:08:02.760 rest of my life. I would love it, absolutely love it. 0:08:02.760 --> 0:08:06.160 It's been I'm trying to remember the last thing that 0:08:06.240 --> 0:08:11.960 I actually I bought this Lulu Lemon T shirt. About that? So, um, 0:08:12.000 --> 0:08:14.560 a white Lulu Lemon T shirt. That was my big purchase. 0:08:14.720 --> 0:08:17.920 He likes to push the boundaries. Yeah, I would love 0:08:18.040 --> 0:08:20.440 to never shop again in my life. So if we 0:08:20.480 --> 0:08:22.040 have a listener that wants to shop for me, my 0:08:22.080 --> 0:08:23.840 wife does most of it. Should get me stuff like 0:08:23.920 --> 0:08:27.440 Christmas or whatever. Um, she'll just buy me clothes. Do 0:08:27.480 --> 0:08:28.960 you like all this that that she generally picks out? 0:08:29.120 --> 0:08:31.520 Or yes? She has way better taste than I do, 0:08:32.520 --> 0:08:34.320 So I would love would would you like to dress 0:08:34.320 --> 0:08:35.599 a man? Or what do you think about? You just 0:08:35.640 --> 0:08:37.400 said style is very important? You think style on a 0:08:37.400 --> 0:08:41.040 man is important? Absolutely? I love dressing guys. I love 0:08:41.160 --> 0:08:43.680 the shopping for guys clothes. Let's we're gonna put you 0:08:43.720 --> 0:08:47.600 on the spot ta show better style right now, Gavin 0:08:47.840 --> 0:08:53.320 or Men I knew it. It's a scarf he's got 0:08:53.360 --> 0:08:55.719 that wonderful blue scarf, and he's got a dog. He's 0:08:55.720 --> 0:08:58.319 got his dog sitting beside him. I just want to 0:08:58.400 --> 0:09:04.240 say that was the right answer. Okay, okay, can you 0:09:04.280 --> 0:09:07.200 break that down? So Gavin's over here wearing like a 0:09:07.200 --> 0:09:10.760 beautiful light brown jacket with a nice blue, kind of 0:09:10.800 --> 0:09:13.880 ruggedy scarf, just got a hat on. You put some 0:09:13.960 --> 0:09:17.200 effort in. You can tell you know, I like, but 0:09:17.240 --> 0:09:18.840 also at the same time, I do like yourself. I like, 0:09:19.040 --> 0:09:22.680 I don't know again, confidence just own it. Gavin owns 0:09:22.720 --> 0:09:25.640 that scarf. It's just working for Thank you for that. 0:09:25.720 --> 0:09:28.560 You're welcome. Okay. So you you like a little more 0:09:28.679 --> 0:09:31.240 like detailed, like I just have black pants and a 0:09:31.280 --> 0:09:34.800 white shirt. So you like that Gavin has layers. I 0:09:34.800 --> 0:09:37.959 guess layers is the term. Yeah, Gavin, do you dress yourself? 0:09:38.640 --> 0:09:43.760 I'm so proud of you. I did. But before I 0:09:43.760 --> 0:09:46.360 went out the door, I turned to my dog and 0:09:46.400 --> 0:09:50.400 I was like, am I your am? I your type? This? 0:09:51.679 --> 0:09:53.560 It's just like, would you happy to be seen with 0:09:53.600 --> 0:09:57.120 me today? Walking across the golf course? Is a suit 0:09:57.240 --> 0:09:59.920 you You're like, it's it's pretty. Did you say you 0:10:00.040 --> 0:10:04.679 dressed up today? Or is this like your casual. Well, 0:10:04.679 --> 0:10:08.360 I just dressed for the weather today. But I try. 0:10:08.480 --> 0:10:15.560 I've I've corrected my wardrobe over time, and it took 0:10:15.600 --> 0:10:24.360 some guidance from who who guided you? Um, women and 0:10:24.640 --> 0:10:28.319 uh and uh you know they have better. You know 0:10:28.720 --> 0:10:32.960 they have women and uh you know so my dad 0:10:33.000 --> 0:10:36.920 says women and so anyway, you know they have better, 0:10:37.440 --> 0:10:41.560 they have better fashion sense, only because I think women 0:10:41.600 --> 0:10:44.560 just tend to pay more attention to fashion sense. You know. 0:10:44.600 --> 0:10:47.320 It's has to do with the things that they you know, 0:10:48.360 --> 0:10:51.600 they're interested in. You know, when guys tend to watch movies, 0:10:51.679 --> 0:10:53.800 we like to watch hero movies, like a guy doing 0:10:53.840 --> 0:10:56.679 to shoot them up, or like climbing a mountain, and 0:10:57.080 --> 0:10:59.200 that's something the part that speaks to girls, I don't 0:10:59.200 --> 0:11:01.880 think the same way. Oh he looks really good in 0:11:01.960 --> 0:11:04.080 that suit in that scene, you know what I mean. 0:11:04.600 --> 0:11:08.000 For example, it's Oscar weekend, So will you guys be 0:11:08.040 --> 0:11:16.280 watching for the for the fashion. Do you ever like 0:11:16.280 --> 0:11:17.920 look at a guy and like, wow, he looks really good, 0:11:17.960 --> 0:11:20.520 Like I love his outfit? Yeah, like yeah, I used 0:11:20.559 --> 0:11:22.319 to have nice suits when I played hockey. I'd get 0:11:22.320 --> 0:11:24.640 custom suits and because it was like it was fun 0:11:24.679 --> 0:11:26.520 to walk into because we had to wear suits every game. 0:11:26.559 --> 0:11:28.360 We had to wear suits every wee retraveled. So it's 0:11:28.400 --> 0:11:32.280 nice to have a custom tailored like sharp suit. But 0:11:32.720 --> 0:11:34.200 that was as far as I went with it. Some 0:11:34.240 --> 0:11:36.479 guys go to the point where it's like their expression, 0:11:36.559 --> 0:11:38.839 their art, and it was never I never liked to 0:11:38.920 --> 0:11:41.000 close that much. It was the same with cars for me, 0:11:41.280 --> 0:11:43.640 like I don't like cars that much to tint all 0:11:43.679 --> 0:11:45.560 the windows and put all the rims and then trick 0:11:45.640 --> 0:11:47.160 it out and do all this stuff that I just 0:11:47.200 --> 0:11:49.600 don't like it that much. But yeah, like a suit 0:11:49.720 --> 0:11:51.680 is one thing as a man you cannot cheap out on. 0:11:52.080 --> 0:11:54.960 You need to have a nice suit as amazing. But 0:11:56.840 --> 0:12:00.360 when you walk past the nineteen sixty seven Fast Act 0:12:00.440 --> 0:12:05.240 Mustang with torque thrust rims, you don't say, man, that's 0:12:05.280 --> 0:12:07.840 a badass, Like I freak out, dude. I'm like, I 0:12:07.880 --> 0:12:09.840 get under it, man, I'm like, oh yeah, I like 0:12:09.920 --> 0:12:15.520 what they did with that. Man, you know what I mean? 0:12:15.559 --> 0:12:18.360 I lose it, So I do, but then yeah, not 0:12:18.520 --> 0:12:20.000 maybe not to the extent that you do. But then 0:12:20.000 --> 0:12:22.920 a minute later it's left my brain and I'm not 0:12:22.960 --> 0:12:25.200 going out to buy it. I'm not like obsessed with it. 0:12:25.240 --> 0:12:31.240 I'm not finding a magazine or researching it on the internet. Yeah, 0:12:32.480 --> 0:12:39.800 it's horrible. I end up on eBay because that's right, Tassia. 0:12:40.160 --> 0:12:45.200 Would you want to dress a partner? Would you like 0:12:45.280 --> 0:12:47.560 if like your guy was like I don't like fashion 0:12:48.040 --> 0:12:50.080 and so you get to dress him. Where would you prefer, 0:12:50.160 --> 0:12:53.079 like the guy has a fashion sense and can dress himself. No, 0:12:53.160 --> 0:12:55.640 I don't mind. I don't mind dressing my partner at all. 0:12:56.400 --> 0:12:59.000 But I think it's also attractive when a guy can 0:12:59.040 --> 0:13:01.680 style himself, you know what I mean. But I don't 0:13:01.679 --> 0:13:04.560 mind dressing you. I can dress you. What's your favorite 0:13:05.840 --> 0:13:09.800 What is your favorite like look on a dude? Like 0:13:09.960 --> 0:13:11.800 is it like a guy in a nice suit or 0:13:11.920 --> 0:13:14.400 like business casual or jeans and T shirt? What's like 0:13:14.440 --> 0:13:18.360 the thing you're like? I love when guys we're a 0:13:18.440 --> 0:13:22.640 nice um like a sport coat. Okay, I'm gonna like 0:13:22.720 --> 0:13:25.600 dress I'm gonna dress you a mentally dress a man, Okay, 0:13:25.640 --> 0:13:28.640 A crisp, white button up tea a little bit unbuttoned 0:13:28.679 --> 0:13:30.480 at the top, with a really nice sport coat, maybe 0:13:30.520 --> 0:13:33.559 some jeans, and like a really pretty coniac like brown show. 0:13:34.840 --> 0:13:39.360 I've never worn that outfit I've never yeah, and like 0:13:39.520 --> 0:13:42.760 matching brown belt. Oh my god, that's so attractive. I 0:13:42.800 --> 0:13:45.320 feel like that's so cliche as a honestly, as ad 0:13:46.000 --> 0:13:53.600 it would all be shopping for later Kevin's Kevin shows 0:13:53.679 --> 0:13:58.079 up at supper exactly dressed. How Asia just described, well, 0:13:58.120 --> 0:14:02.000 this whole thing alone time still has tag sitting at 0:14:02.040 --> 0:14:05.319 dinner the tailors under the under the table he pass. 0:14:07.280 --> 0:14:11.520 I feel like that's jeans and a sport coat for 0:14:11.559 --> 0:14:15.120 a guy is like, and it's just it's not my vibe. Golfer. 0:14:16.120 --> 0:14:21.880 Maybe looking for a golf sponsor. That sounds golf sponsor. 0:14:22.760 --> 0:14:24.640 I don't know. I just it depends the guy has 0:14:24.640 --> 0:14:29.560 to like it's been to style. Okay, how would you 0:14:29.640 --> 0:14:35.240 dress my dog? I think he's killing it on his own, 0:14:35.280 --> 0:14:38.640 to be honest, he's rocking that chain. You know why. 0:14:38.640 --> 0:14:40.960 I look at the head of hair. He is a 0:14:40.960 --> 0:14:44.200 beautiful boy. He has a beautiful boy. Gave um And 0:14:44.520 --> 0:14:46.120 up next we have a guest that's gonna join us. 0:14:46.120 --> 0:14:48.640 It's gonna teach you and I my friend, mostly me, 0:14:49.200 --> 0:14:51.520 how to be a more beautiful boy because I need 0:14:51.600 --> 0:14:54.400 some help. Oh yeah, don't we all? Yeah? Okay, we 0:14:54.480 --> 0:14:59.600 got karaml hight, I did that this morning. How about 0:14:59.600 --> 0:15:02.560 a little says in your step? Friend. That's one thing 0:15:02.600 --> 0:15:05.560 I do do. Like, that's where I take care of myself. 0:15:06.200 --> 0:15:09.040 That's one thing I do do. I'll hit the gym, 0:15:09.080 --> 0:15:10.640 but I don't like then I get back and I'm 0:15:10.640 --> 0:15:13.400 just like I need to throw clothes on. But like what, 0:15:13.440 --> 0:15:16.640 I'm very intentional with what I'm doing inside the gym. 0:15:16.640 --> 0:15:19.360 But then clothes don't matter to me. So I have 0:15:19.440 --> 0:15:29.040 room to grow. Okay, we're coming back with Karamo. Okay, 0:15:29.040 --> 0:15:31.840 back from break and we have with us joining us 0:15:31.920 --> 0:15:35.520 now a gentleman that knows a lot about men's grooming, 0:15:35.560 --> 0:15:39.280 more than Gavin, more than myself, and his name joining 0:15:39.360 --> 0:15:45.240 us today is Karamo. What's up? Fantastic my man. Welcome 0:15:45.240 --> 0:15:47.240 to how men think and we want to bring you 0:15:47.280 --> 0:15:49.280 on we Gavin, I kind of look at you like 0:15:49.320 --> 0:15:53.360 you're a specialist in the men's grooming and cleansing department. 0:15:53.920 --> 0:15:55.680 I would kind of say, being on queer I kind 0:15:55.680 --> 0:15:59.040 of does make me somewhat of a specialist. So I'll 0:15:59.080 --> 0:16:01.760 take it. So I need to sign up for for 0:16:01.840 --> 0:16:04.520 your lessons, my friend, because if you look at my face, 0:16:04.600 --> 0:16:08.000 I have scraggly facial hair. I haven't had a haircut 0:16:08.000 --> 0:16:11.320 and probably like a month. I am like the least 0:16:11.440 --> 0:16:15.000 groomed dude that you have met. So I'm looking for 0:16:15.040 --> 0:16:17.680 some guidance, my friend, maybe you should start watching Queer Eye. 0:16:21.040 --> 0:16:22.520 I was like, we have a we have a couple 0:16:22.520 --> 0:16:24.320 of seasons out where we can help you through this. 0:16:25.280 --> 0:16:28.120 He's an expert, and he's probably one of most courteous 0:16:28.120 --> 0:16:29.600 men I've ever seen to be quite honest with you. 0:16:29.760 --> 0:16:31.600 So give me the number one tip. Give me. Give 0:16:31.640 --> 0:16:33.840 me like the low hanging fruit, what a man can 0:16:33.880 --> 0:16:36.640 do to groom himself better? Like, where's the most important 0:16:37.000 --> 0:16:40.480 spot a man has to groom in your opinion? Um, well, 0:16:40.520 --> 0:16:43.320 I definitely say I don't think there's a most important spot, 0:16:43.400 --> 0:16:45.480 you know what I mean, because it's actually wherever you 0:16:45.560 --> 0:16:49.400 feel least confident. And so we avoid taking care of 0:16:49.440 --> 0:16:51.480 the things that we're not that confident about because we 0:16:51.520 --> 0:16:53.800 feel like, if I don't like it already, like I 0:16:53.800 --> 0:16:55.880 should short of just let it go. It's the reason 0:16:55.920 --> 0:16:57.760 why we have jump drawer. That's the reason that we 0:16:57.800 --> 0:16:59.800 have rooms that stay a little messire is because we 0:17:00.240 --> 0:17:03.400 just start to compartmentalize and avoid things. So if you're 0:17:03.400 --> 0:17:05.320 not shaving your face, if you're not cutting your hair, 0:17:05.359 --> 0:17:07.840 there's normally a reason behind it. And maybe like I 0:17:07.840 --> 0:17:09.639 don't feel that comfortable, or like I don't want that 0:17:09.680 --> 0:17:12.520 as tension, and so I normally do un queer ideal 0:17:12.520 --> 0:17:15.240 with the psychological part. But for me, I think if 0:17:15.240 --> 0:17:17.760 you can deal with your face and your scalp and 0:17:17.840 --> 0:17:20.080 how you look, that's the first people thing people are 0:17:20.080 --> 0:17:22.280 gonna see, you'll feel more confident about how you proach 0:17:22.359 --> 0:17:25.760 the world. What about if we're just lazy. I'm just 0:17:25.800 --> 0:17:31.720 like somebody I got. There's no such thing as lazy, 0:17:31.840 --> 0:17:34.440 There's no such thing as late. The desire to do 0:17:34.520 --> 0:17:37.720 something comes from usually you being or the lack of 0:17:37.800 --> 0:17:40.560 desire to do something usually comes from something that happened 0:17:40.600 --> 0:17:42.520 in your life that you don't realize it. So maybe 0:17:42.520 --> 0:17:44.840 you might have had a coach that um you know, 0:17:44.840 --> 0:17:46.520 maybe you work out too much, so now as an adult, 0:17:46.560 --> 0:17:48.800 you don't want to work out that much. Maybe for you, 0:17:48.960 --> 0:17:52.000 saying you're lazy is because you had somebody who you 0:17:52.080 --> 0:17:54.760 tried really hard for in a relationship and then now 0:17:55.200 --> 0:17:57.080 you don't want to try anymore. So I don't I 0:17:57.080 --> 0:17:59.480 don't believe anyone is lazy. There's just triggers that have 0:17:59.560 --> 0:18:02.480 caused this. The react to certain life isn't me so insightful, 0:18:02.520 --> 0:18:09.840 Like I'm telling you, it's like beauty, beauty, beauty wizardry. Yeah, 0:18:09.880 --> 0:18:15.199 I try. Okay, Um, let me ask you this question, Um, 0:18:15.359 --> 0:18:19.000 facial hair or no facial hair? Um. I think it 0:18:19.080 --> 0:18:21.440 depends on the guy. For me, I like facial hair. 0:18:21.520 --> 0:18:24.280 I think there's something about patil hair that is sexy 0:18:24.440 --> 0:18:26.879 and really nice. Um, but most men don't know how 0:18:26.880 --> 0:18:28.840 to like keep it up. So you want to make 0:18:28.880 --> 0:18:31.880 sure you have a moisturizer so your face it feels 0:18:32.160 --> 0:18:35.720 nice and moisturizing all the time. Also a cleanser so 0:18:35.760 --> 0:18:39.119 you can get rid of like any red spots from discoloration. 0:18:39.560 --> 0:18:42.880 And then most importantly is a sunscreen whether you are 0:18:42.920 --> 0:18:45.040 white or black, because a lot of times people of 0:18:45.119 --> 0:18:47.639 color I think they shouldn't use guns sunscreen. You have 0:18:47.760 --> 0:18:49.919 to use a daily sunscreen, and I think those the 0:18:49.920 --> 0:18:53.439 most important things. Okay, so I have let's okay, So 0:18:53.480 --> 0:18:55.840 that's a perfect lead in. I need to write all 0:18:55.880 --> 0:19:00.440 this down because honestly, Karamo, my my personal hygiene products 0:19:00.480 --> 0:19:07.000 consist of toothpaste and a cologne, and honestly, that's literally 0:19:07.280 --> 0:19:12.480 my entire personal because he watches his body with a toothpaste. 0:19:15.280 --> 0:19:18.720 So let's talk about So for me, Karama, I could 0:19:18.720 --> 0:19:21.640 not have less personal hygiene products than anyone you've ever met. 0:19:21.960 --> 0:19:24.760 So right now I'm looking at at your products, Mantle. 0:19:24.880 --> 0:19:26.960 We have Mantle products here. We have the cleanser, the 0:19:27.000 --> 0:19:30.600 face and scalp cleanser. I have the age defense moisturizer 0:19:30.640 --> 0:19:33.800 from my face, and I have the invisible daily SPF thirty, 0:19:33.920 --> 0:19:37.520 the sunscreen that you were talking about. Yeah, I also 0:19:37.600 --> 0:19:40.960 have the the no No shine sheets here, which I'm 0:19:40.960 --> 0:19:42.840 just opening right now. So can you tell me a 0:19:42.880 --> 0:19:45.159 little bit about these because I'm actually gonna make this 0:19:45.200 --> 0:19:49.160 like part of my mission. Gave is just like naturally beautiful. 0:19:49.240 --> 0:19:51.840 He's not like me, like my face has been a 0:19:51.880 --> 0:19:53.920 little bit. So I need to take a little more 0:19:54.000 --> 0:19:56.439 care of myself. So how do I dig into this? 0:19:56.480 --> 0:19:59.199 What am I starting with the cleanser every day? The 0:19:59.240 --> 0:20:02.040 reason I did, the reason I created this way is 0:20:02.040 --> 0:20:04.919 because I get overwhelmed, like most men, by way too 0:20:04.960 --> 0:20:06.840 many beauty products. I mean, most of the time in 0:20:06.840 --> 0:20:10.359 our culture, women have been inundated since they were younger 0:20:10.680 --> 0:20:14.120 and more able to explore and be curious. But for men, 0:20:14.400 --> 0:20:17.160 we didn't have that option, so I get very nervous. 0:20:17.400 --> 0:20:19.959 So I created this kit so that it's all you need. 0:20:20.160 --> 0:20:22.199 So in the shower, you put the cleanser on your 0:20:22.640 --> 0:20:25.880 face neck and it's going to get off all those pumps. 0:20:25.920 --> 0:20:28.560 The dirt help you to make sure you don't have acne. 0:20:28.720 --> 0:20:31.080 And if you are thinning or balding, you can put 0:20:31.119 --> 0:20:33.760 in your scalp as well. And if you do have hair, 0:20:33.960 --> 0:20:35.680 even if you mix it up with shampoo, is not 0:20:35.720 --> 0:20:38.359 gonna mess it up. Then you have the shower, you 0:20:38.400 --> 0:20:40.760 put on the moisturizer, because the moisturizing what's going to 0:20:40.880 --> 0:20:44.600 keep your skin tight and people looking young, people looking great. 0:20:45.160 --> 0:20:47.679 And then the most important thing is the SPF. But 0:20:47.920 --> 0:20:50.080 SPF is really hard for people to put on because 0:20:50.320 --> 0:20:54.240 most sps I think of them, are white and you 0:20:54.240 --> 0:20:57.760 don't have that weird beachy smell. And so I made 0:20:57.760 --> 0:21:00.400 this one clear and so that way you can put 0:21:00.400 --> 0:21:02.520 it on your face and it won't get stuck in 0:21:02.560 --> 0:21:04.959 your beard or on the hair on your head, and 0:21:05.000 --> 0:21:07.359 it's like really silky and smooth. It won't make money, 0:21:08.560 --> 0:21:10.119 like if you try it, try it out. If you 0:21:10.119 --> 0:21:12.600 have it, put that up on your hand and see 0:21:12.640 --> 0:21:15.200 how silky and smooth it is. Okay, So my question 0:21:15.240 --> 0:21:18.760 here is it says daily SPF. I put this on 0:21:18.800 --> 0:21:20.560 every single day, like I'm I go out the house, 0:21:20.560 --> 0:21:23.280 I'm putting this on, or only on like sunny days. Nope, 0:21:23.280 --> 0:21:26.480 you see this is the thing. The thing that's No, 0:21:26.680 --> 0:21:28.840 that's a really good question, because the thing is that 0:21:28.920 --> 0:21:32.200 people think that SPF means that you're at the beach 0:21:32.280 --> 0:21:35.680 or you're like in direct sunlight. Um U V rays 0:21:35.680 --> 0:21:37.560 are always hitting you. So if you're at work and 0:21:37.600 --> 0:21:40.399 there's a window, you're getting sun damage, and so you 0:21:40.440 --> 0:21:43.040 should have it on every single day. If you're walking 0:21:43.080 --> 0:21:46.119 down the street, you're getting sun damage, and so having 0:21:46.200 --> 0:21:49.160