1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 1: This is How Men Think with brooks Like and Gavin 2 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:09,120 Speaker 1: degrab And I heard radio podcast feeling It. I love 3 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:13,399 Speaker 1: when we get that intro. Hey, Gav, I feel it feeling. Yeah, 4 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of How Men Think. My name 5 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: is brooks Like, and we have two co hosts here 6 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 1: with us. We have my usual wing man, Mr Gavin 7 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 1: de Great to see you, good mornings. You also have Buddy, 8 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 1: your dog with you. He's sitting here with us. I do. 9 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: He's smelling the coffee cake. He's smelling your coffee cake. 10 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 1: And we have new co host her second actually her 11 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 1: second time on the show, first time that I've been 12 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: on the show with her. Welcome back, Miss Taitia Adams. 13 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: Thanks for commentation. I'm so happy to be here. So 14 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 1: we are here, that's right. We are here at a 15 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 1: T and T Pebble Beach program in California. We're checking 16 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: out this weekend. We're watching some golf and we're recording 17 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:57,880 Speaker 1: some podcasts. And Gavin, you're such a fantastic golfer that 18 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: we're gonna watch you live for the swing, your handicap 19 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 1: um all of my limbs. Do you golf, buddy? No, 20 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 1: I wouldn't golfing once upon time, I wouldn't say golfing, 21 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 1: and uh, let's say it was my first time and 22 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 1: the guy I said, hey, would you mind giving me 23 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: a quick lesson because it was more like a meet 24 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 1: and greet on a golf course. He said sure, and 25 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 1: we sit there for about three minutes. He said, just 26 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: swing this way and do this, and I said, no problem. 27 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 1: And I crushed the ball and he was like, okay, 28 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 1: and then I crushed the ball again. And I crushed 29 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:37,759 Speaker 1: the ball again. But the problem was I kept hitting 30 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:39,960 Speaker 1: the ball at a ninety degree angle to my right 31 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:42,479 Speaker 1: and he said, maybe you should just face the clubhouse 32 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 1: and then you gave it up. Yeah. I was like, 33 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: all right, that's it for me. I think I'm out 34 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: of here. Um I have in the past, I've tried. 35 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 1: I've taken a couple of lessons. I do have some clubs. Yeah, 36 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: they're pink. They're really cute. I own a couple of 37 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 1: golf skirts. It's a whole reason why I got into 38 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 1: the sport, to quite honest with you, that it's quite cute. 39 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: I love golf skirt. That's higher the golf retire um. 40 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 1: That's awesome. I'm actually we didn't know right before this 41 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 1: podcast began that you were even going to be here, Gav. 42 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:17,919 Speaker 1: I didn't know either. Literally, we're supposed to record, We're 43 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: supposed to record this, and two minutes before we start recording, 44 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: Amy's like, Brooks, you and Tasi are gonna have to 45 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: do this yourselves, because Gavin, you're supposed to be here yesterday. 46 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 1: You know, showed by the way that showed up. That 47 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 1: showed up according to my calculations, whould be in my schedule. 48 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:39,519 Speaker 1: What had happened was I was supposed to be here 49 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 1: whatever time yesterday in order to do the podcast today. 50 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 1: And then the night before I was told, oh, we'll 51 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 1: do We'll start doing the show tomorrow, and I was like, 52 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: oh wait a second, I have stuff to pack, all 53 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:58,679 Speaker 1: my stuff and drive up and stuff like that. So 54 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: three your guys fault, you know. Can I tell you 55 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: my story with how I got here? Yes, this is good, 56 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: I told Tashi yesterday because she was here yesterday. Yeah, 57 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: I was so listen to this, listen to this. So 58 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: I go to fly out yesterday morning from l A. 59 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,639 Speaker 1: So I dropped my dog off, go to fly out, 60 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: go to the airport, go to check in, and the 61 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 1: lady says, um, yeah, we don't fly to Monterey from here. 62 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: And I'm like, well, my ticket says you do and 63 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: you're United and I'm flying with you. And she says, no, 64 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: we don't. And so I look at my ticket and 65 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: it's not Burbank Airport, it's l A X Airport. So 66 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: I went to the completely wrong airport to fly out, 67 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: first time I've ever done that. And I phone Amy. 68 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: I'm like, Amy, I'm gonna miss my flight. UM need 69 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: to reschedule me. So she reschedules me, and then you'll 70 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: reschedules me a flight. I go to l A X. 71 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: You guys are calling you guys were amazing about it. 72 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 1: They just rescheduled me for a couple hours later. I 73 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: go to l A X and I'm like, okay, getting 74 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: on the plane and I find out what seed I 75 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 1: have b okay that the ticket I'm booked is basic economy. 76 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: You can't get a less like you can't get on 77 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: an airplane for less than basic economy. I get on, 78 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:23,159 Speaker 1: I go to thirteen B and it turns out that 79 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: six inches away from my nose is the lavatory. I 80 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: am seated, kidding me, No, I'm not. I am seated 81 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 1: right next with the bathroom. Yeah, he should have just 82 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: sat in the bathroom. I was the same, Yeah, it 83 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: would have been better, just like you guys, mind if 84 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: I put my feet up on the toilet to kind 85 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: of stretch out a little bit over here. So it 86 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: was a day. It was a day for me. I 87 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: missed the flight, went to the wrong airports the flight, 88 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 1: and then sat by the toilet on the way here. 89 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: That's terrible. Did you feel like you smelled like one 90 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 1: of those pink urinald cakes when you landed? No, I 91 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: did not know. I got in and took a shower. Though. 92 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 1: What happens? Then I text Brooks and I said, well, 93 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: because you're late, comes straight to the golf course, go 94 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:11,239 Speaker 1: right to the lodge at Pebble Beach. In like text, 95 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: and there was the second line. It was like perfect, 96 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: you couldn't have it. You're like, bring Logs to Pebble Beach. 97 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: He calls me and he's like I'm here, and I'm like, great, okay, 98 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 1: where are you? And He's like, I'm right in the front. 99 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: So I'm thinking, okay, well we're at the little market. 100 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 1: So I said, ask anyone you see where the market 101 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:35,919 Speaker 1: is where's the market? And you hear like, some dude, 102 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:39,159 Speaker 1: go there's no market. So I'm like, can you ask 103 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: someone Brooks where are you? He is at a hotel 104 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:51,039 Speaker 1: and guess like you're getting to know me. But Gab 105 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: knows me. He knows that, like I'm a prompt I'm on, 106 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 1: I don't and I was absolutely Danielle's shaking her head 107 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: and I think I text you this Amy. I'm like, 108 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 1: this is how Gavin feels every single day of the fights. 109 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 1: But guess what the difference between you and me is. 110 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 1: While I'm lost, I'm kind of just enjoying the view. 111 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:14,919 Speaker 1: I did too, and just relaxed. And you know, I 112 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:17,160 Speaker 1: have been to the wrong airport before, but it was 113 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:20,239 Speaker 1: to pick up somebody, just to pick up my older brother, 114 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: and you could imagine what that was like. I was like, yeah, yeah, 115 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 1: I'm here, Well where are you? I'm at such and 116 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: Suminal I was like, I'm right there, man, just look 117 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 1: for the car, like where are you? I don't see 118 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 1: I'm waving my hands. You know. He's like, did I 119 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:42,160 Speaker 1: realize I had gone to the wrong airport to pick him? Gosh? 120 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 1: And he was like, you such an idiot. Mistakes happen. 121 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:49,280 Speaker 1: But so today's episode, and this is why we have 122 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: Tasha on here is we want to talk about men's grooming, 123 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: the importance of men's grooming. We want to as men, 124 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: we want to learn. We have a guest that's going 125 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: to come on and teach us a little bit about 126 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 1: grooming and self care. Are so excited for that. And 127 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 1: then we want your perspective tation because really men, men 128 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: want to groom to impress women or to impress a partner, 129 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 1: and so we want a woman's take on men's grooming. 130 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: Men's self care doesn't matter? Does it not matter? How 131 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: much does it matter? And how much can you push 132 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: it on a guy if he's not doing it? And 133 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: then also what parts of the body, what parts of 134 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 1: the body need to be groomed? Can I just start 135 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 1: right with this question for you guys? How do you feel? 136 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 1: And I don't know how to say this properly that 137 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: we want to dress you, So I do it. I 138 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 1: trick it by just buying gifts all the time of 139 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: clothes and so it seems like, no, you look so great, 140 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 1: and then I got you this because really it's like, no, 141 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: I'm not super crazy about some of the stuff you wear. 142 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: But if you wear this, I'm gonna be into it. 143 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: Sounds a huge thing. I would love it if I 144 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: never had to buy one article of clothing again the 145 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: rest of my life. I would love it, absolutely love it. 146 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 1: It's been I'm trying to remember the last thing that 147 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 1: I actually I bought this Lulu Lemon T shirt. About that? So, um, 148 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 1: a white Lulu Lemon T shirt. That was my big purchase. 149 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: He likes to push the boundaries. Yeah, I would love 150 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 1: to never shop again in my life. So if we 151 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: have a listener that wants to shop for me, my 152 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: wife does most of it. Should get me stuff like 153 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: Christmas or whatever. Um, she'll just buy me clothes. Do 154 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 1: you like all this that that she generally picks out? 155 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: Or yes? She has way better taste than I do, 156 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 1: So I would love would would you like to dress 157 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:35,599 Speaker 1: a man? Or what do you think about? You just 158 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: said style is very important? You think style on a 159 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: man is important? Absolutely? I love dressing guys. I love 160 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 1: the shopping for guys clothes. Let's we're gonna put you 161 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 1: on the spot ta show better style right now, Gavin 162 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 1: or Men I knew it. It's a scarf he's got 163 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:55,719 Speaker 1: that wonderful blue scarf, and he's got a dog. He's 164 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:58,319 Speaker 1: got his dog sitting beside him. I just want to 165 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: say that was the right answer. Okay, okay, can you 166 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 1: break that down? So Gavin's over here wearing like a 167 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 1: beautiful light brown jacket with a nice blue, kind of 168 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 1: ruggedy scarf, just got a hat on. You put some 169 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 1: effort in. You can tell you know, I like, but 170 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 1: also at the same time, I do like yourself. I like, 171 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 1: I don't know again, confidence just own it. Gavin owns 172 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: that scarf. It's just working for Thank you for that. 173 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 1: You're welcome. Okay. So you you like a little more 174 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 1: like detailed, like I just have black pants and a 175 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: white shirt. So you like that Gavin has layers. I 176 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:37,959 Speaker 1: guess layers is the term. Yeah, Gavin, do you dress yourself? 177 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: I'm so proud of you. I did. But before I 178 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: went out the door, I turned to my dog and 179 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 1: I was like, am I your am? I your type? This? 180 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 1: It's just like, would you happy to be seen with 181 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: me today? Walking across the golf course? Is a suit 182 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: you You're like, it's it's pretty. Did you say you 183 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:04,679 Speaker 1: dressed up today? Or is this like your casual. Well, 184 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 1: I just dressed for the weather today. But I try. 185 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 1: I've I've corrected my wardrobe over time, and it took 186 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 1: some guidance from who who guided you? Um, women and 187 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:28,319 Speaker 1: uh and uh you know they have better. You know 188 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 1: they have women and uh you know so my dad 189 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 1: says women and so anyway, you know they have better, 190 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 1: they have better fashion sense, only because I think women 191 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 1: just tend to pay more attention to fashion sense. You know. 192 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 1: It's has to do with the things that they you know, 193 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 1: they're interested in. You know, when guys tend to watch movies, 194 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:53,800 Speaker 1: we like to watch hero movies, like a guy doing 195 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:56,679 Speaker 1: to shoot them up, or like climbing a mountain, and 196 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 1: that's something the part that speaks to girls, I don't 197 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 1: think the same way. Oh he looks really good in 198 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 1: that suit in that scene, you know what I mean. 199 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 1: For example, it's Oscar weekend, So will you guys be 200 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: watching for the for the fashion. Do you ever like 201 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: look at a guy and like, wow, he looks really good, 202 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: Like I love his outfit? Yeah, like yeah, I used 203 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:22,319 Speaker 1: to have nice suits when I played hockey. I'd get 204 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 1: custom suits and because it was like it was fun 205 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: to walk into because we had to wear suits every game. 206 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 1: We had to wear suits every wee retraveled. So it's 207 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: nice to have a custom tailored like sharp suit. But 208 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 1: that was as far as I went with it. Some 209 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:36,479 Speaker 1: guys go to the point where it's like their expression, 210 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:38,839 Speaker 1: their art, and it was never I never liked to 211 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: close that much. It was the same with cars for me, 212 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 1: like I don't like cars that much to tint all 213 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 1: the windows and put all the rims and then trick 214 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 1: it out and do all this stuff that I just 215 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 1: don't like it that much. But yeah, like a suit 216 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:51,680 Speaker 1: is one thing as a man you cannot cheap out on. 217 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 1: You need to have a nice suit as amazing. But 218 00:11:56,840 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: when you walk past the nineteen sixty seven Fast Act 219 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 1: Mustang with torque thrust rims, you don't say, man, that's 220 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 1: a badass, Like I freak out, dude. I'm like, I 221 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 1: get under it, man, I'm like, oh yeah, I like 222 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: what they did with that. Man, you know what I mean? 223 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 1: I lose it, So I do, but then yeah, not 224 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: maybe not to the extent that you do. But then 225 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 1: a minute later it's left my brain and I'm not 226 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 1: going out to buy it. I'm not like obsessed with it. 227 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 1: I'm not finding a magazine or researching it on the internet. Yeah, 228 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 1: it's horrible. I end up on eBay because that's right, Tassia. 229 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 1: Would you want to dress a partner? Would you like 230 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 1: if like your guy was like I don't like fashion 231 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 1: and so you get to dress him. Where would you prefer, 232 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:53,079 Speaker 1: like the guy has a fashion sense and can dress himself. No, 233 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: I don't mind. I don't mind dressing my partner at all. 234 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: But I think it's also attractive when a guy can 235 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 1: style himself, you know what I mean. But I don't 236 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 1: mind dressing you. I can dress you. What's your favorite 237 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 1: What is your favorite like look on a dude? Like 238 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 1: is it like a guy in a nice suit or 239 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 1: like business casual or jeans and T shirt? What's like 240 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 1: the thing you're like? I love when guys we're a 241 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: nice um like a sport coat. Okay, I'm gonna like 242 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 1: dress I'm gonna dress you a mentally dress a man, Okay, 243 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 1: A crisp, white button up tea a little bit unbuttoned 244 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 1: at the top, with a really nice sport coat, maybe 245 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:33,559 Speaker 1: some jeans, and like a really pretty coniac like brown show. 246 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 1: I've never worn that outfit I've never yeah, and like 247 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: matching brown belt. Oh my god, that's so attractive. I 248 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:45,320 Speaker 1: feel like that's so cliche as a honestly, as ad 249 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 1: it would all be shopping for later Kevin's Kevin shows 250 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:58,079 Speaker 1: up at supper exactly dressed. How Asia just described, well, 251 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 1: this whole thing alone time still has tag sitting at 252 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:05,319 Speaker 1: dinner the tailors under the under the table he pass. 253 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 1: I feel like that's jeans and a sport coat for 254 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: a guy is like, and it's just it's not my vibe. Golfer. 255 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 1: Maybe looking for a golf sponsor. That sounds golf sponsor. 256 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 1: I don't know. I just it depends the guy has 257 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 1: to like it's been to style. Okay, how would you 258 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 1: dress my dog? I think he's killing it on his own, 259 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 1: to be honest, he's rocking that chain. You know why. 260 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 1: I look at the head of hair. He is a 261 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 1: beautiful boy. He has a beautiful boy. Gave um And 262 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 1: up next we have a guest that's gonna join us. 263 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 1: It's gonna teach you and I my friend, mostly me, 264 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: how to be a more beautiful boy because I need 265 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 1: some help. Oh yeah, don't we all? Yeah? Okay, we 266 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 1: got karaml hight, I did that this morning. How about 267 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 1: a little says in your step? Friend. That's one thing 268 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 1: I do do. Like, that's where I take care of myself. 269 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: That's one thing I do do. I'll hit the gym, 270 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 1: but I don't like then I get back and I'm 271 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 1: just like I need to throw clothes on. But like what, 272 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: I'm very intentional with what I'm doing inside the gym. 273 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: But then clothes don't matter to me. So I have 274 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 1: room to grow. Okay, we're coming back with Karamo. Okay, 275 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: back from break and we have with us joining us 276 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 1: now a gentleman that knows a lot about men's grooming, 277 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 1: more than Gavin, more than myself, and his name joining 278 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 1: us today is Karamo. What's up? Fantastic my man. Welcome 279 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 1: to how men think and we want to bring you 280 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: on we Gavin, I kind of look at you like 281 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 1: you're a specialist in the men's grooming and cleansing department. 282 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 1: I would kind of say, being on queer I kind 283 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 1: of does make me somewhat of a specialist. So I'll 284 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 1: take it. So I need to sign up for for 285 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 1: your lessons, my friend, because if you look at my face, 286 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 1: I have scraggly facial hair. I haven't had a haircut 287 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 1: and probably like a month. I am like the least 288 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 1: groomed dude that you have met. So I'm looking for 289 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 1: some guidance, my friend, maybe you should start watching Queer Eye. 290 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: I was like, we have a we have a couple 291 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 1: of seasons out where we can help you through this. 292 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: He's an expert, and he's probably one of most courteous 293 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 1: men I've ever seen to be quite honest with you. 294 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 1: So give me the number one tip. Give me. Give 295 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 1: me like the low hanging fruit, what a man can 296 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: do to groom himself better? Like, where's the most important 297 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 1: spot a man has to groom in your opinion? Um, well, 298 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 1: I definitely say I don't think there's a most important spot, 299 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, because it's actually wherever you 300 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: feel least confident. And so we avoid taking care of 301 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 1: the things that we're not that confident about because we 302 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 1: feel like, if I don't like it already, like I 303 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 1: should short of just let it go. It's the reason 304 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 1: why we have jump drawer. That's the reason that we 305 00:16:57,800 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 1: have rooms that stay a little messire is because we 306 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 1: just start to compartmentalize and avoid things. So if you're 307 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 1: not shaving your face, if you're not cutting your hair, 308 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 1: there's normally a reason behind it. And maybe like I 309 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 1: don't feel that comfortable, or like I don't want that 310 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 1: as tension, and so I normally do un queer ideal 311 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 1: with the psychological part. But for me, I think if 312 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 1: you can deal with your face and your scalp and 313 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 1: how you look, that's the first people thing people are 314 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 1: gonna see, you'll feel more confident about how you proach 315 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: the world. What about if we're just lazy. I'm just 316 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 1: like somebody I got. There's no such thing as lazy, 317 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:34,440 Speaker 1: There's no such thing as late. The desire to do 318 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 1: something comes from usually you being or the lack of 319 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: desire to do something usually comes from something that happened 320 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 1: in your life that you don't realize it. So maybe 321 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 1: you might have had a coach that um you know, 322 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 1: maybe you work out too much, so now as an adult, 323 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 1: you don't want to work out that much. Maybe for you, 324 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 1: saying you're lazy is because you had somebody who you 325 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 1: tried really hard for in a relationship and then now 326 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 1: you don't want to try anymore. So I don't I 327 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 1: don't believe anyone is lazy. There's just triggers that have 328 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 1: caused this. The react to certain life isn't me so insightful, 329 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 1: Like I'm telling you, it's like beauty, beauty, beauty wizardry. Yeah, 330 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:15,199 Speaker 1: I try. Okay, Um, let me ask you this question, Um, 331 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 1: facial hair or no facial hair? Um. I think it 332 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 1: depends on the guy. For me, I like facial hair. 333 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 1: I think there's something about patil hair that is sexy 334 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:26,879 Speaker 1: and really nice. Um, but most men don't know how 335 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 1: to like keep it up. So you want to make 336 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:31,880 Speaker 1: sure you have a moisturizer so your face it feels 337 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 1: nice and moisturizing all the time. Also a cleanser so 338 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:39,119 Speaker 1: you can get rid of like any red spots from discoloration. 339 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:42,880 Speaker 1: And then most importantly is a sunscreen whether you are 340 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 1: white or black, because a lot of times people of 341 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 1: color I think they shouldn't use guns sunscreen. You have 342 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:49,919 Speaker 1: to use a daily sunscreen, and I think those the 343 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:53,439 Speaker 1: most important things. Okay, so I have let's okay, So 344 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 1: that's a perfect lead in. I need to write all 345 00:18:55,880 --> 00:19:00,440 Speaker 1: this down because honestly, Karamo, my my personal hygiene products 346 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 1: consist of toothpaste and a cologne, and honestly, that's literally 347 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 1: my entire personal because he watches his body with a toothpaste. 348 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 1: So let's talk about So for me, Karama, I could 349 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:21,640 Speaker 1: not have less personal hygiene products than anyone you've ever met. 350 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 1: So right now I'm looking at at your products, Mantle. 351 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 1: We have Mantle products here. We have the cleanser, the 352 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 1: face and scalp cleanser. I have the age defense moisturizer 353 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 1: from my face, and I have the invisible daily SPF thirty, 354 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 1: the sunscreen that you were talking about. Yeah, I also 355 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 1: have the the no No shine sheets here, which I'm 356 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 1: just opening right now. So can you tell me a 357 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:45,159 Speaker 1: little bit about these because I'm actually gonna make this 358 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:49,160 Speaker 1: like part of my mission. Gave is just like naturally beautiful. 359 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 1: He's not like me, like my face has been a 360 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 1: little bit. So I need to take a little more 361 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,439 Speaker 1: care of myself. So how do I dig into this? 362 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:59,199 Speaker 1: What am I starting with the cleanser every day? The 363 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 1: reason I did, the reason I created this way is 364 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:04,919 Speaker 1: because I get overwhelmed, like most men, by way too 365 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 1: many beauty products. I mean, most of the time in 366 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 1: our culture, women have been inundated since they were younger 367 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:14,120 Speaker 1: and more able to explore and be curious. But for men, 368 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:17,160 Speaker 1: we didn't have that option, so I get very nervous. 369 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:19,959 Speaker 1: So I created this kit so that it's all you need. 370 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:22,199 Speaker 1: So in the shower, you put the cleanser on your 371 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:25,880 Speaker 1: face neck and it's going to get off all those pumps. 372 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 1: The dirt help you to make sure you don't have acne. 373 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 1: And if you are thinning or balding, you can put 374 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: in your scalp as well. And if you do have hair, 375 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 1: even if you mix it up with shampoo, is not 376 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 1: gonna mess it up. Then you have the shower, you 377 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 1: put on the moisturizer, because the moisturizing what's going to 378 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: keep your skin tight and people looking young, people looking great. 379 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:47,679 Speaker 1: And then the most important thing is the SPF. But 380 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 1: SPF is really hard for people to put on because 381 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 1: most sps I think of them, are white and you 382 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 1: don't have that weird beachy smell. And so I made 383 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:00,400 Speaker 1: this one clear and so that way you can put 384 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 1: it on your face and it won't get stuck in 385 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:04,959 Speaker 1: your beard or on the hair on your head, and 386 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 1: it's like really silky and smooth. It won't make money, 387 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:10,119 Speaker 1: like if you try it, try it out. If you 388 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 1: have it, put that up on your hand and see 389 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 1: how silky and smooth it is. Okay, So my question 390 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 1: here is it says daily SPF. I put this on 391 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 1: every single day, like I'm I go out the house, 392 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: I'm putting this on, or only on like sunny days. Nope, 393 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 1: you see this is the thing. The thing that's No, 394 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: that's a really good question, because the thing is that 395 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:32,200 Speaker 1: people think that SPF means that you're at the beach 396 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:35,680 Speaker 1: or you're like in direct sunlight. Um U V rays 397 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 1: are always hitting you. So if you're at work and 398 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 1: there's a window, you're getting sun damage, and so you 399 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 1: should have it on every single day. If you're walking 400 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 1: down the street, you're getting sun damage, and so having 401 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 1: on a sun protector is going to help you at 402 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 1: all times. But the way that we designed it is 403 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 1: that after you put on the moisturizer, you can put 404 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:55,959 Speaker 1: this on and it's gonna be just as easy. All 405 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 1: you need is one or two pumps and it will 406 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 1: cover your entire face and scop with meybe karma. We 407 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 1: just put this on our hand and I've actually never 408 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 1: seen SPF look like this before. It's there and it's 409 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 1: a good GELPF is a great idea, honestly, because thank you, 410 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 1: Like you just said, I have tried to put on 411 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: sunscreen because I do have a darker complexion and sometimes 412 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 1: you do get like that purply white overcast. I don't 413 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 1: know what it is. Yeah, no, yeah, I know exactly 414 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 1: talking about Yeah, it's it's weird looking and and that's 415 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:25,400 Speaker 1: what deters a lot of people from putting on sunscreen. 416 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 1: And then they as they get older, they found out 417 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 1: that they have sun damage, they could have skin cancer, 418 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:32,199 Speaker 1: There's a lot of things that come with it. So 419 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 1: I want to make sure that while we're working on 420 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:37,400 Speaker 1: this that we're getting something that was going to be easy, 421 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 1: nice to put on. Um it's not going to leave 422 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 1: any weird streaks, but it's going to be accessible. You 423 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 1: can put it on for men, thank you. And for 424 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 1: men you know you can. Just it's an easy three 425 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 1: point kit because these are things you need. That was 426 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 1: that was my next point exactly. I think part of 427 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 1: the reason I don't have a lot of like beauty 428 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 1: products or whatever is just I think it's overwhelming for me. 429 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,360 Speaker 1: And this is very easy. Use the cleanser, the face 430 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,879 Speaker 1: and scalp cleanser in the shower, very easy. Then when 431 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 1: you get out, put a little age defense moisturized around 432 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:11,159 Speaker 1: my face and then put the daily invisible SPF and 433 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 1: you're good to go. And I'm good to go. That's 434 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 1: actually very easy. I don't think, Yeah, I applaud you 435 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:20,159 Speaker 1: for that because I've I've really resisted this entire space 436 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 1: just because I'm like overwhelmed. I don't want to have 437 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 1: a bunch of stuff I need to carry all the 438 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:27,199 Speaker 1: time or get reliant on something. But for sure my 439 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:30,879 Speaker 1: mud could use a little what what are you going 440 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 1: to come out with a bubble bath product that makes 441 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:38,199 Speaker 1: men look rugged in the bubble bath? Yeah? Man, I 442 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,639 Speaker 1: want to look tough in the bubble album cover. You 443 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 1: know what I mean that we're adding that to the line. 444 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,920 Speaker 1: As long as you agree to be our first model. Done, done, 445 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 1: done and done. Can I want to get your take 446 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 1: on this tasta. Is a is an ungroomed kind of 447 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 1: wild looking man attractive? Or is it? Are you like 448 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 1: really drawn to like a well groomed, put together man. 449 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 1: You know, it's it's really about the confidence and that's 450 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 1: the key thing. We I did a focus group with 451 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 1: a bunch of women and I asked them about some 452 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 1: of these things, about like if a man was balding 453 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 1: or beat full head of hair, how important to do you? 454 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 1: Was that? And majority of the time when I talked 455 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 1: to women, it was about is he kind? Is he funny? 456 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:24,159 Speaker 1: Is he going to support me? Is he going to 457 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,639 Speaker 1: be financially stable? Is he gonna help me in life? 458 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 1: Are we gonna grow together, We're gonna travel? Hair or 459 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,400 Speaker 1: a lack of hair was the bottom of the list. 460 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 1: And so it's all about can you if you are 461 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 1: ungroomed as people would say, um, and you walk in 462 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 1: the room confident, it doesn't matter. But what does matter 463 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 1: is if you're taking care of yourself, and when you're 464 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:45,120 Speaker 1: taking care of yourself, you become more confident. And too 465 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 1: long society and beauty products didn't say the men, it's 466 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 1: okay to take care of yourself, it's okay to love yourself. 467 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 1: I think I think I agree with you, But I 468 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 1: think we left out two other ones that women like 469 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 1: to say, does he already have kids? And what kind 470 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 1: of car does you drive? Yeah? No, those are on 471 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 1: the list as well. Those are actually on the list 472 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:10,400 Speaker 1: as well. I didn't hear the car one. I didn't 473 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,639 Speaker 1: hear that one. What do you think groomed or on 474 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 1: groom what do you find like appealing attractive in a man? 475 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: I think he's right with the whole confidence thing. If 476 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,680 Speaker 1: you're just scruffy and just because if you don't care 477 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 1: and you really just don't have anything in your life 478 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,399 Speaker 1: put together, like it's kind of it's really unattractive actually, 479 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:26,640 Speaker 1: But if you kind of I don't know, if it's 480 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 1: like your vibe and you do have scruffy hair and 481 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 1: maybe some tattoos, just have like I don't know, I 482 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 1: think it's at yeah, you feel the confidence. I'm there, 483 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 1: but I also love a clean cut guy. So I 484 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: will say this when when I see like somebody that's 485 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: like well groomed and put together, like there's a talking 486 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,159 Speaker 1: about a man there or or a woman there's like 487 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 1: a whoa this person? There's a presence there, like there's 488 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 1: an initial presence. They're like, well they're they're showing up 489 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 1: in a way that's with intent and and almost respect. 490 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 1: You almost look at them like they're they're put together 491 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:05,640 Speaker 1: person there there you respect them? Well what what what 492 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,400 Speaker 1: what you're attracted to is their self esteem? Because when 493 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:12,159 Speaker 1: we all want somebody who loves themselves because in in 494 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:15,919 Speaker 1: in our subconscious mind, when someone loves themselves, it means 495 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:19,200 Speaker 1: that they could potentially love us. And that's the thing 496 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,399 Speaker 1: at the core of all being human beings is that 497 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,160 Speaker 1: we want And so we want to make sure that 498 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 1: people understand that it's not about like certain products of 499 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 1: certain things. But I want to encourage people to use 500 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 1: mantle Men dot com, mant men dot com and use 501 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,639 Speaker 1: a products. It's about how can we get you to 502 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 1: a place to love yourself because that's what's going to 503 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 1: bring in all the things you want in life. I 504 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 1: agree with that. That's amazing. Um, what about the guy 505 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,640 Speaker 1: asking for a friend slash myself that's trying to grow 506 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 1: his beard longer but is in this really awkward phase 507 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 1: where it's really curly, it sticks out, but he doesn't 508 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:57,160 Speaker 1: know magic and he wants to know what to tell 509 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:00,920 Speaker 1: his friends. Do you have any to mantle have any 510 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 1: like beard oils or beard products. Yeah, we're gonna be 511 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 1: coming out with some of those next. That's next on 512 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,679 Speaker 1: the line. Right now, I tell you, if your beard 513 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 1: is ungroomed, I always suggest going to like magazines and 514 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 1: finding a level or a lamp that's good for you. 515 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 1: And it's secondly, if you have a partner doing the 516 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 1: kiss test, the kiss test is really important because right 517 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 1: the kiss tests would tell you if it's too hard, 518 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 1: if it's too prickly, and if it's not gonna work. 519 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:34,199 Speaker 1: Kiss test party, you gotta do that. Tasha, do you 520 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 1: like a guy with facial hair or no facial hair? 521 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,679 Speaker 1: I think I tend to guy with Excuse me, I 522 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:45,400 Speaker 1: tend to like guys with facial hair. Mhm. But also 523 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 1: there's like that awkward phase where it's like a lot 524 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:48,919 Speaker 1: of stubble and like if you are kissing them and 525 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 1: you like, okay, like Kevin Kevin's and then you get 526 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:57,239 Speaker 1: like you get like a rough patch because like they 527 00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 1: like stubbily. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, that that's 528 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 1: why I said the kiss test. I'm telling you the 529 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 1: kiss test works every time if you need you knowing 530 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 1: if you're in the right level with your beard or not. 531 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 1: What my stubble says, I'm off the market. Oyeah, That's 532 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 1: what it says, is that right look for sexual For 533 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 1: quite a long time, I look forward to that beard 534 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 1: stuff and I'm going to try this out for the 535 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 1: first time in my life. Carmel, I'm going to have 536 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 1: like a beauty is that what it's called a beauty routine? Yeah, 537 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 1: I don't self care. I don't call I call it 538 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,639 Speaker 1: a self care routine because like the word for me personally, 539 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 1: and you know, I'm not gonna lie. I try to 540 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 1: be better, but I still have these you know, what 541 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,159 Speaker 1: people call the toxic male behaviors or whatever that I 542 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 1: subscribed to, and like it makes me uncomfortable to say 543 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 1: beauty stuff. Sometimes I'm just gonna be honest with you, 544 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 1: and you know, and so I like to be like, 545 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 1: you know, my self care products, you know, like I 546 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 1: feel good products is what I call them, you know 547 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 1: what I mean, because I don't really call myself beautiful ever, 548 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 1: and so using beauty products is not something I'm accustomed to. 549 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 1: But I do like to take care of my my 550 00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 1: self esteem and so good. So this is your self 551 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 1: care every team. Yeah, and I think like even for 552 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 1: men that that term for whatever reason, beauty products. It 553 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 1: seems weird for me. But like self care or feel 554 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 1: good products, Yeah, that seems normal. Yeah, that's this. This 555 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 1: seems more normal. And you know, I'm not trying to 556 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 1: say that the health you know, we're we should be 557 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 1: able to say beauty, but I just don't subscribe to it. Yeah, yeah, 558 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong with it. How dare you the way 559 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 1: you speak, sir? I mean, how would you you know what? 560 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,959 Speaker 1: Gavin though, I must say, gave you with your scarf 561 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 1: today and your jacket like that is beautiful. No, I'm 562 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 1: mad admiring, like when you're locked in. Amy was just like, 563 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 1: oh god, he looks great, layered. Lay I know, Karma. 564 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 1: I have one more question for you. Yeah. Um, so 565 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 1: as Brooks talked about the fact that he doesn't really 566 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 1: have much of a skincare routine or self care routine, 567 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 1: being that we are traveling, Um, what is the one 568 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 1: item that you always travel with or that you can 569 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 1: suggest for a guy, like if he's just running out 570 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 1: the door and he needs to grab at least one 571 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 1: thing for your into line, Like, what is the one 572 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 1: thing you have to have? Um, SPF definitely, because the 573 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 1: SPF is also a moisturizer, so it doesn't have as 574 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 1: much as the age defense in it as the moisturizer. 575 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 1: But the thing is that most people don't realize that 576 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 1: SPF is such a necessary tool and making sure your 577 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 1: skin looks good because the out once you go outside, 578 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 1: it damages your skin so much. And that's why you 579 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 1: see people who are thirty that look way older forty, 580 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 1: and people who take care of themselves with like an SPF, 581 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 1: their skin always looks younger, always looks softer. And so 582 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 1: I would say grab that, um, as you're traveling, because 583 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 1: that's the thing. And as you can see, I made 584 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 1: all of our products the three ounces that it lasts 585 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 1: for a while, but also you can travel with it, 586 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 1: you can carry it on right. Yeah, really you got 587 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 1: to make sure that anything. Um. Yeah, dude, this is 588 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 1: awesome for the I'm gonna go at this question, Um, 589 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 1: will I do you think that I will like see 590 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 1: results from this or will I just feel results like 591 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 1: in in seven if I go like seven to ten 592 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 1: days of straight using it, will I will like my 593 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 1: skin look better? Will like? What do you? What am I? 594 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 1: Because I just don't want to feel like nothing's happening 595 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 1: and then be like, well, I'm wasting my time if 596 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 1: I don't see something like I just want to be prepared. 597 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 1: So I will tell you that your skin is gonna 598 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 1: start feeling softer. You know, I don't know how much 599 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 1: sun damage you have or how often moisturized. So I 600 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,239 Speaker 1: don't want to say seven or ten days, because if 601 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 1: you've never more scribbed before, it's gonna take a little 602 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 1: bit more for your skin. The absorbiting start taking it. 603 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 1: But as you saw when you put the sp up 604 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 1: on your hands, what happens that your skin is automatically 605 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 1: gonna feel softer if you put if you feel the 606 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 1: space that you put that SPF on before, it already 607 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 1: is gonna start feeling silkier and nicer. What's the point 608 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 1: of it. So as you feel like your skin is 609 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 1: feeling softer, that means your skin is healing. That means 610 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 1: like the parts that were dry, they were cracked, they're 611 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 1: starting to rebuild sell they're starting to get better, and 612 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 1: that's how you're gonna your skin is getting healthier. I'm 613 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 1: excited to try this. You know why. Another reason why 614 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 1: I never tried like feel good products or something is 615 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 1: I didn't want to become dependent on them. Yeah. Yeah, 616 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 1: but these are you want to become dependent on because 617 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 1: the things these are necessary thing that you should It's 618 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 1: like the same way you become dependent on your toothbrush 619 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 1: because you want nice teeth, you want nice skin, So 620 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 1: you know, easy breezy. Yeah, you've You've actually reframed this 621 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 1: whole like self care for me. Do you have any 622 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 1: moisture I'm yeah, I feel you. Do you have any 623 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 1: moisturizer that will make my teeth look straight? Yea, he 624 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 1: needs a lot of health care. Now, yeah, model for 625 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 1: the bubble baths, so you can't do the self deprepending. 626 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 1: I want to be before before photo. I need you 627 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 1: coming in here with that self confidence that I know 628 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 1: you have. Whats alright? Don I think Mantel comes out 629 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 1: with a men's rugged bubble brugged bubble back and do 630 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 1: a photo shoot and that's your album cover. That's it. 631 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 1: You know what you need to do gonna be a 632 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,960 Speaker 1: bubble bath that looks like a plaid Lumberjack shirt. Yes, 633 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 1: the bubbles come up looking like a plaid pattern. I'm 634 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 1: gonna make this just happen, Karama. We appreciate you coming on. Brother. 635 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 1: Where can people find the Mantle products? And where can 636 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 1: I get some more once I run out of these ones? 637 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 1: So you can go to Mantel men dot com dot com, 638 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 1: m A N T L Men M E N dot 639 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 1: com And for you when you need some more, you 640 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 1: just hit me brother, what about me? Yeah, both of 641 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 1: you come on, Matt. And also the funny part is 642 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 1: like my sisters have stolen all these products even that 643 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:41,800 Speaker 1: we've been marking into. Man, I was just Titia has 644 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 1: already stolen my SPF on all the products. Yeah, so 645 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 1: this is so you know, if you need something, I 646 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 1: got you as well. Okay, perfect, Karama. We appreciate your brother. 647 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 1: Thank you, and I gonna have to check out the show. 648 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 1: I definitely need some more tips. So thank you. You 649 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 1: are my guru for for self care. My friend appreciated 650 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:19,720 Speaker 1: my day. Well, Karama literally just changed my entire outlook 651 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,919 Speaker 1: on like self care. I'm actually gonna start self care. 652 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 1: I'm like honestly shocked that you do not use any 653 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 1: products like not even after like a game or anything 654 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 1: like you never like cleanse your face like nothing. I 655 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 1: never know. I honestly this was my belief. If I sweat, 656 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:34,959 Speaker 1: it's going to clean my pores and clean my skin 657 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 1: and then as a shower, and I'm fine. I agree 658 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 1: with that philosophy very basically, I've never I've never used 659 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:47,759 Speaker 1: like um like moisturizer, aged aged defense moisturizer, or like 660 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:52,239 Speaker 1: um baby oil, or like I've never put stuff on 661 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 1: my skin to make my skin look or feel or 662 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,279 Speaker 1: anything a different way. And your wife's never like had 663 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:02,240 Speaker 1: like a little spot day at home with you. No, Okay, 664 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,840 Speaker 1: is it just me that makes a significant I'm sure. 665 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,840 Speaker 1: I'm sure she would. Like she's got like in our vanity, 666 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,239 Speaker 1: she's got her vanity, and I have my vanity and 667 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,359 Speaker 1: her products are filling up my vanity. But I have 668 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 1: one drawer that has my toothpaste and like tweezers in 669 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,480 Speaker 1: it and like Q tips and stuff. Other than that, 670 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,800 Speaker 1: it's like all her drawers in my side as well. Wow, 671 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 1: like your skin has never felt like dry or anything. 672 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 1: I'm confused. I think this is what this is what 673 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,319 Speaker 1: I this is like. This is honestly been my mindset on, 674 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 1: like skincare, Like a thousand years ago, when people were alive, 675 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:41,359 Speaker 1: they didn't have skincare, so their skin just figured it out. 676 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:43,279 Speaker 1: They just skin was like, Okay, I just need to 677 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 1: figure out how to be healthy. So that's all I wanted. 678 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:47,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I get it, but like you need to 679 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 1: try this because I can't stop rubbing my hand. It's 680 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 1: actually really really soft. This might change my life. I'm 681 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,200 Speaker 1: actually like excited to try. I wonder if I should 682 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,239 Speaker 1: put some moisturize around my dog's nose because it's the 683 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:01,279 Speaker 1: only part that isn't covered with hair, and maybe it 684 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:05,560 Speaker 1: would keep his nose from wrinkling as he gages age defension. Nose. 685 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:10,440 Speaker 1: That's it. What do you think? He's really cute? Isn't adorable? 686 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:18,399 Speaker 1: He's handsome. He is extremely single. Todd's single, My dog 687 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:23,400 Speaker 1: is single. What about grooming dog? What about grooming your dog? 688 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:28,120 Speaker 1: Do you groom your dog? Um, let's talk about that. 689 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,839 Speaker 1: I should groom him more. But I haven't brushed him 690 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:36,239 Speaker 1: in like almost two weeks, and he's really hairy. Like 691 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:42,040 Speaker 1: to apologize this hotel and all of you and you're 692 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:46,960 Speaker 1: washing machines because you're gonna have a lot of stuff 693 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:50,960 Speaker 1: all over you. He doesn't smell bad. Um. I try, 694 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,440 Speaker 1: And I actually probably would spend more time grooming my 695 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,680 Speaker 1: dog than grooming myself. I could brush coda. I would 696 00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 1: say like five out of seven days of the week. 697 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 1: Is that true? You know? They say that's a really 698 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,799 Speaker 1: great bonding uh um thing to do with your with 699 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,600 Speaker 1: your dog. Really it seems like the adverse. He actually 700 00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:09,160 Speaker 1: hates it. Yeah, they say it's like a really good 701 00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:11,399 Speaker 1: good thing to do in your but you know you're 702 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:13,880 Speaker 1: stronger than I am, so you're probably like really hurting 703 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:18,880 Speaker 1: your dog. And then I brush his teeth too, but 704 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:23,719 Speaker 1: he hates the breast get yeah, just because you know 705 00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:25,360 Speaker 1: they have these little dog ones they have like a 706 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:27,600 Speaker 1: they have a dog toothbrush, and then they also have 707 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:29,800 Speaker 1: a thing that just slides over your finger. Then you 708 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:31,920 Speaker 1: put the dog toothpaste on your finger and you get 709 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,600 Speaker 1: inside and just rub it around. And I just hate 710 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,880 Speaker 1: seeing like older dogs with bad teeth, and I just 711 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:39,640 Speaker 1: never want to. I just never want my boy to 712 00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:42,680 Speaker 1: have bad teeth like that. So I need to. I 713 00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:44,440 Speaker 1: need to take care of myself as well as I 714 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:46,960 Speaker 1: take care of my dog. Okay, I have a very 715 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:50,880 Speaker 1: important question for the entire table, something we have not 716 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:54,480 Speaker 1: yet fully discussed, and I want. I want yes or no? 717 00:37:55,080 --> 00:38:02,160 Speaker 1: Tasia Adams, is bald sexy? Is bald sexy? Do you 718 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:08,000 Speaker 1: find a bald man sexy? Um? That's got to be 719 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:12,640 Speaker 1: a not. That's a no if you aren't already saying yes, yes, 720 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:17,759 Speaker 1: that's right. No, So okay, can a man? So maybe 721 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:19,799 Speaker 1: you don't find it sexy, but cann a bald man 722 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,359 Speaker 1: be sexy. T Yes, Like Karamo is a bald man 723 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:26,800 Speaker 1: and he's very sexy. Yeah, he's a handsome man. Yeah, okay, okay, 724 00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:30,320 Speaker 1: Now he was bald and he was out of shape 725 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:34,319 Speaker 1: and he didn't have a beauty line. Would he be 726 00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:37,000 Speaker 1: sexy if he was not successful? Oh my god, you're 727 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:38,960 Speaker 1: putting me on the spot because you're looking for a 728 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:42,680 Speaker 1: lot of criteria. That's actually a good point because he's 729 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:46,719 Speaker 1: a very put together, like attract of human beings. He's 730 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:51,200 Speaker 1: he's an entire package. Yes, who happens to be bald. 731 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,919 Speaker 1: That's right. He's also famous, which I think ups your 732 00:38:54,520 --> 00:39:00,799 Speaker 1: hot quotient. It does what everybody knows that I just 733 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:06,120 Speaker 1: love you, that's true. It's like you see Ed Harris 734 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,759 Speaker 1: in a movie. You're like, yeah, but if he was 735 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,840 Speaker 1: just a regular civilian, I don't know, walking on the street. 736 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 1: So okay, Amy, do you find bald man? So I'm 737 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,320 Speaker 1: gonna give you totally answer on this. I used to think, 738 00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:22,040 Speaker 1: like I preferred like a real good head of hair, 739 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,600 Speaker 1: like Rick. He's not here, but Rick has an excellent 740 00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:28,440 Speaker 1: head of hair. But then he turned out to be 741 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:32,160 Speaker 1: a total jerk. But he was super hot. This pretty 742 00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:37,040 Speaker 1: much bald guy that I knew and there is he sucked, 743 00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:40,080 Speaker 1: but he was super sexy. I mean, I'm not going 744 00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:44,239 Speaker 1: to name names. I'm no Rick has hair, but I 745 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,880 Speaker 1: used to think I thought it was so sexy, like 746 00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:51,160 Speaker 1: so beyond sexy. Was it maybe because you've never been 747 00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,879 Speaker 1: with a bald guy? Maybe, Like I, I was like, 748 00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:57,279 Speaker 1: he's so hot. He is so was was he? Did 749 00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,520 Speaker 1: he own it? Yes? I think that's because he had 750 00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:08,640 Speaker 1: beady Yeah. I was talking about this last night. She's like, 751 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:10,520 Speaker 1: let's go, let's go. We have that b d E 752 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,560 Speaker 1: and because we're gonna do Dean's podcast, help I suck 753 00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:15,719 Speaker 1: at dating. And I was like I just heard that 754 00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:17,640 Speaker 1: term like a week ago, and she goes, yeah, best 755 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,319 Speaker 1: day ever. I'm like, oh, I heard it differently, and 756 00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:23,040 Speaker 1: I was like, no, I know what that means, because 757 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,799 Speaker 1: if somebody has b d E, then they can pull 758 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:29,080 Speaker 1: off anything. So like, I don't even think he had 759 00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,520 Speaker 1: great fashion, and yet I loved it because he just 760 00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,920 Speaker 1: had b d Like everything about this guy was just 761 00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,840 Speaker 1: like you're so hot? Can you can you explain for 762 00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,040 Speaker 1: our listeners who do not know this term what b 763 00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:43,080 Speaker 1: d E is? You have to say all the words 764 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:46,759 Speaker 1: of it. You have to say all the words. It 765 00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:51,520 Speaker 1: means big d energy, you have to say you have 766 00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,160 Speaker 1: to say it. Oh, I cannot say that word on 767 00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,960 Speaker 1: the radio. It means big dick energy. Yeah. And it's 768 00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,520 Speaker 1: like like it doesn't mean you have a b D 769 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,400 Speaker 1: but it just means you carry yourself on it. You 770 00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:07,400 Speaker 1: have swag. As Bieber would say, and Gavin said it 771 00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,200 Speaker 1: about Karamo, he has smooth. Did you say he has 772 00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,360 Speaker 1: smooth or he is smooth? I don't know. I probably 773 00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:15,919 Speaker 1: said something like smooth. It's like smooth swag just confidence. 774 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:22,279 Speaker 1: Like how about e D E rectile dysfunction feeling that 775 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:27,319 Speaker 1: e D E ladies? Huh, let's spread that around all right? 776 00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:31,759 Speaker 1: Do you think this? Do you think that um men 777 00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:34,279 Speaker 1: can be sexy as a bald man or do you 778 00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,279 Speaker 1: think that if, like if you lose your hair, do 779 00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,439 Speaker 1: you think that you could still be sexy. I think 780 00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:41,920 Speaker 1: that anybody can pull off anything, but just going by 781 00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:45,080 Speaker 1: the numbers out like I pointed out before, I pointed 782 00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:48,480 Speaker 1: out before, like who were the two biggest movie stars 783 00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:50,839 Speaker 1: in the last probably thirty years as leading men. They 784 00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,279 Speaker 1: were Tom Cruise and Brad Pitt. You know, both of 785 00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:57,880 Speaker 1: them have perfect heads of Hair, Leonardo Gafrie, Tom Well, 786 00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:00,319 Speaker 1: I'm just saying far as like heart throw bobs and 787 00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:03,000 Speaker 1: stuff like that. I'm just going with with what what 788 00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:06,800 Speaker 1: the numbers tend to say. You know, I have a 789 00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:08,480 Speaker 1: few celebrities I'm gonna pull up you guys tell me 790 00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:12,520 Speaker 1: if they have swag and sex appeal or not. Ll 791 00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:20,360 Speaker 1: col J Yes, swag, Yes, swag then Diesel Oh, he 792 00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:23,320 Speaker 1: is actually kind of hot, but it's not someone I 793 00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:25,520 Speaker 1: would ever go after. It's a rugged thing. I think 794 00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:27,319 Speaker 1: what you're pointing out more is there's more of a 795 00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:30,480 Speaker 1: rugged thing and more of it's made up. Um, it's 796 00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:35,000 Speaker 1: it's a it's it's a different thing because it more 797 00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:41,839 Speaker 1: relies on uh being masculine less than necessarily the Rock. 798 00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:45,359 Speaker 1: That's what I mean, like bad boy, bad boy vibes. 799 00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,080 Speaker 1: That's just my my analysis of it. The Rock is 800 00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:51,120 Speaker 1: very attractive too, but again I would never typically ever 801 00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,239 Speaker 1: go in date. But the Rock is someone who I 802 00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,360 Speaker 1: think actually looks better with the shaved head than he 803 00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,879 Speaker 1: did with hair. I agree. I agree. You know who 804 00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,480 Speaker 1: else you got, Tori Oh? That's it on my list. 805 00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:04,600 Speaker 1: Bruce Willis Danielle just said, Bruce will Danielle do you 806 00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:08,440 Speaker 1: find Bruce Willis to be sexy? This is producer Danielle, 807 00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:15,520 Speaker 1: who has probably the best head of hair of anybody. Buddy, 808 00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:21,040 Speaker 1: Bruce Willis not so much, but the Rock definitely right. Sure, 809 00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:23,840 Speaker 1: so you have to have muscles. But if you're I 810 00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:25,799 Speaker 1: do agree with Gavin. I think if like the man 811 00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:31,120 Speaker 1: is super not athletic, but like masculine, then he could 812 00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,680 Speaker 1: totally pull off bald head. Okay, so there's you guys. 813 00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:36,720 Speaker 1: Have listed The Rock, You've listed Vin Diesel, You've listed 814 00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,680 Speaker 1: L L Cool j as bald men who you find attractive, 815 00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,920 Speaker 1: and those are all two hundred plus solid dudes, like 816 00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:46,560 Speaker 1: strong asked dudes. And then you listed Bruce Willis, who's 817 00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:48,600 Speaker 1: maybe like a buck fifty. I don't know what he'd weigh. 818 00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:55,359 Speaker 1: And you're like, no, not sexy, sexy, amy sexy? Yeah, 819 00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:59,040 Speaker 1: because they're so young. I'm old, So Bruce is hot. 820 00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:03,200 Speaker 1: They don't know Bruce is like their grandpa. Have you 821 00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:06,440 Speaker 1: ever met Bruce in real life? And was he in 822 00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:10,759 Speaker 1: real life sexy? Did you get loose to Bruce? I think, yeah, 823 00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:19,520 Speaker 1: he does. That's my little input. It's so interesting. I mean, 824 00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:22,560 Speaker 1: what about you do you find bald guys? Attractive. I 825 00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,560 Speaker 1: think a bald guy absolutely can be attractive. Name one 826 00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:33,520 Speaker 1: like like any any like any basketball player, most basketball players, 827 00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:37,560 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, how okay? There there that? Yeah, extremely 828 00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:41,719 Speaker 1: attractive dudes. Michael Jordan is very attractive, very attractive. What's up? 829 00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,719 Speaker 1: Can I flip the script a little bit? So? How 830 00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:48,239 Speaker 1: about you know? How do guys view women with short hair? 831 00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:51,120 Speaker 1: Or like a boy? How do we how do we 832 00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:54,400 Speaker 1: view bald women? How do you view Gavin? Have you 833 00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:58,560 Speaker 1: ever dated a woman with short hair? Yeah? Did you 834 00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:02,200 Speaker 1: like it? Sho on? Did you like her hair as 835 00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:06,560 Speaker 1: fine as hell? You know? So? Did you like her hair? Listen? 836 00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,520 Speaker 1: When they're hot, they're hot, you know what I mean. 837 00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:13,720 Speaker 1: When they're not, they're not. You know that song sold school. 838 00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:17,440 Speaker 1: But but you know, that's all there is to it. 839 00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:20,120 Speaker 1: You know, they're they're they're when they're hot, they're hot, 840 00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,479 Speaker 1: you know. And I don't don't I see. I don't 841 00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:27,200 Speaker 1: see the make over. I see what's the genetic makeup? 842 00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:30,560 Speaker 1: So you know, a lot of people talk about how 843 00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:32,480 Speaker 1: they put their makeup on and stuff like that, and 844 00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:34,360 Speaker 1: their hair do and all that kind of stuff. I 845 00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:38,080 Speaker 1: see gene pool more than I see the makeover. You 846 00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:40,160 Speaker 1: know what I mean. I see the cheek bones and 847 00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:43,560 Speaker 1: the lips, and the neck and the neckline, and and 848 00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:49,759 Speaker 1: that their natural with their body. It's fundamentally is um. 849 00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:53,160 Speaker 1: That's what I see. Um. Whereas a lot more people 850 00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:56,319 Speaker 1: see see if they're put together and stuff like that, 851 00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:58,839 Speaker 1: I look at that in a different way because say, okay, 852 00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:00,719 Speaker 1: they're on their way to the laundry, matter not. You 853 00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:04,760 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Yes, I just see something totally 854 00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,759 Speaker 1: totally different. And to be totally totally honest with you, 855 00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:11,080 Speaker 1: if I see someone who's put together, over the top 856 00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:13,360 Speaker 1: put together, you know what I see, I see a 857 00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:17,239 Speaker 1: lot of work. I see. I see something that's just 858 00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:19,759 Speaker 1: too much a little too much work for me to 859 00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:23,359 Speaker 1: be around. And it's something that's I just slicking at 860 00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:27,959 Speaker 1: a car or a yacht that cannot be maintained. And um, 861 00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:31,120 Speaker 1: so so I look at I look at very different 862 00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:33,960 Speaker 1: things I think than some people look at. You know, 863 00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:37,680 Speaker 1: I want I'd rather them be wearing a you know, 864 00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:40,480 Speaker 1: a pair of sweatpants and like not doing their hair, 865 00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:45,080 Speaker 1: and if they look good like that, that's hot to me, 866 00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,239 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, make up, no, nothing, not 867 00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:54,200 Speaker 1: trying at all, and the presence man and like that 868 00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:56,960 Speaker 1: thing whatever that is, and when when you make eye 869 00:46:57,040 --> 00:47:02,600 Speaker 1: contact that's hot and and uh it's it's the inexplicable stuff. 870 00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:07,560 Speaker 1: It's not all just how they're put together. The hair 871 00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:11,600 Speaker 1: do doesn't really mean mean much. Have you ever had 872 00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:14,600 Speaker 1: short hairtation? I did cut it short at one point, 873 00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:19,880 Speaker 1: shorter than higher than your shoulders. It was like shoulder link. Okay, okay, 874 00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:23,399 Speaker 1: it was my Actually, yeah, the person I was dating 875 00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:26,160 Speaker 1: at the time wanted me to have short hair and 876 00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:28,319 Speaker 1: my I had always wanted to try it out, and 877 00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:30,759 Speaker 1: so I just did it one day and it didn't 878 00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:33,000 Speaker 1: feel as good. I actually loved it. But it's a 879 00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:36,239 Speaker 1: lot of work short hairst I actually have curly hair. 880 00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:39,600 Speaker 1: So it's like if you have curly hair and then 881 00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:41,440 Speaker 1: you have a short haircut, like I'm so sorry, but 882 00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:48,279 Speaker 1: you're about to look like like it's it's a lot 883 00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:49,840 Speaker 1: of ways you need to blow your hair, you know 884 00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:54,200 Speaker 1: what I mean. So there's just very you're dying laughing 885 00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:59,600 Speaker 1: at me. There's complementary hairstyles. I see what you're saying. 886 00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:03,560 Speaker 1: You here's a question for all you ladies. What is 887 00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:09,719 Speaker 1: the female equivalent of B d E? What is the 888 00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:15,359 Speaker 1: gav Is there is there a term? Is there? Like, 889 00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:18,480 Speaker 1: is there a term of b D E for a woman? 890 00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:21,520 Speaker 1: I don't think so because I just heard b d 891 00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:31,439 Speaker 1: E last week. Literally, I guess if you had, like shimmy, yeah, 892 00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:37,840 Speaker 1: I can self b c E big chest energy or 893 00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:42,200 Speaker 1: b B big breast energy. You guys are so awkward 894 00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:45,360 Speaker 1: right now. I don't think a part though. Isn't it 895 00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:49,759 Speaker 1: like D bitch energy? I like that, you know what 896 00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:52,320 Speaker 1: I mean? But then people think, like, but that comes 897 00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:54,920 Speaker 1: from a body part like the B D E. For 898 00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:56,799 Speaker 1: the most part, you guys are saying, well, a guy 899 00:48:56,880 --> 00:49:00,240 Speaker 1: cannot have a big D and still have that energy. 900 00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:02,560 Speaker 1: Most of the time, that energy comes from having that 901 00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:05,920 Speaker 1: body part, like that's why he's walking around with that 902 00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:12,200 Speaker 1: because he knows. Yeah, ok So then I don't think 903 00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:15,920 Speaker 1: we have an equivalent. Okay, when we'll think on this 904 00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:17,920 Speaker 1: on the break and we'll get back to it, try 905 00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:28,000 Speaker 1: and come up with the term. Okay, we're taking a break. Okay, 906 00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:31,120 Speaker 1: now we're going to talk about men's fashion, and we 907 00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:34,279 Speaker 1: need a specialist. I need a specialist for this. So 908 00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:39,280 Speaker 1: we have on the line with us Mr Brad Garretsky. Brad, 909 00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:42,400 Speaker 1: what's up buddy. Hey, how's it going. Thanks for saying 910 00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:44,839 Speaker 1: my last name right. Yeah, my man, Man, it's been 911 00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:46,759 Speaker 1: too long since I've seen you. The first time you 912 00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:49,160 Speaker 1: and I met was on Beca Antanya's show, the I 913 00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:53,319 Speaker 1: Heart Radio podcast. Uh, Scrubbing Scrubbing in. That was the 914 00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:55,919 Speaker 1: first time you and I met. We had a fantastic time. 915 00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:58,200 Speaker 1: Nick was there. Nick Vile was there. He was on 916 00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:01,839 Speaker 1: the mant remember the mantel, the Man of course, and 917 00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:04,960 Speaker 1: you were so fun man, and you were talking about style. 918 00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:07,440 Speaker 1: He was put together like Brad when he shows up. 919 00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:10,320 Speaker 1: Brad shows up and I walked in and like shorts 920 00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:12,160 Speaker 1: and sandals and a T shirt. And I looked at 921 00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:17,160 Speaker 1: Brad and I'm like, I'm in the wrong room. So 922 00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:20,640 Speaker 1: you yeah, Brad. So you we're gonna get your take. 923 00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:23,520 Speaker 1: You are. You got your starting the industry by interning 924 00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:26,680 Speaker 1: in the New York offices of Vogue and w magazines. 925 00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:31,160 Speaker 1: You were the co host of Fashion Police on e UM. 926 00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:35,160 Speaker 1: You have all kinds of celebrity clients. Uh. And now 927 00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:38,160 Speaker 1: you don't know this, but now you're my new fashion guy. 928 00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:41,319 Speaker 1: So that was all right. That was like the in 929 00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:43,480 Speaker 1: the contract and the small print of agreeing to come 930 00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:45,160 Speaker 1: on the show that you had to be my personal 931 00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:49,040 Speaker 1: guy anytime. You just let me know every every school 932 00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:53,040 Speaker 1: year you need to lay out his clothes. So, Brad, 933 00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:55,200 Speaker 1: here's a true story. A couple of minutes ago, I 934 00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:57,880 Speaker 1: just asked Tasha, Tasha Adams, who's here with us? I 935 00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:01,080 Speaker 1: asked Tasha, I said, who has better style? Gavin or me? 936 00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:04,040 Speaker 1: And right away she looked at Gavin like sweet little 937 00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:06,799 Speaker 1: smile and she says Gavin, and it broke my heart. 938 00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:16,360 Speaker 1: She blew me kisses. I don't remember that part, but yeah, 939 00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:20,279 Speaker 1: whatever I saw it, Brad, can you can you give us? 940 00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:22,719 Speaker 1: Can you give me? Man? I'm sitting here in a 941 00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:24,719 Speaker 1: pair of black jeans and a white T shirt. Can 942 00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:28,920 Speaker 1: you give me like some tips on or any man listening? 943 00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:32,160 Speaker 1: What is like most important? What's the low hanging fruit 944 00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:34,680 Speaker 1: for a man to look to put together to be 945 00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:40,440 Speaker 1: presented well fashion wise? Um? In today's modern world, Well, 946 00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:43,359 Speaker 1: I think number one is most men don't wear their 947 00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:47,439 Speaker 1: actual style, their actual size. Um. I think a lot 948 00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:50,640 Speaker 1: of guys wear things that hang too far away from 949 00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:54,080 Speaker 1: their body. And especially speaking when guys get dressed up 950 00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:57,080 Speaker 1: and wear suits, Um, you know the shoulders of your 951 00:51:57,120 --> 00:52:00,719 Speaker 1: suit jackets should line up with your actual shoulders, and 952 00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:03,560 Speaker 1: then I think it's important to to you know, we 953 00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:05,319 Speaker 1: have a lot of variety now, so you can get 954 00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:07,880 Speaker 1: a slim cut, you can get you know, kind of 955 00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:10,839 Speaker 1: like a regular fit suit. And I think, um, you know, 956 00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:14,799 Speaker 1: taking the time, especially for those um events or or 957 00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:17,600 Speaker 1: life occurrences where we are getting a little bit more 958 00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:21,040 Speaker 1: dressed up, to take the time to get things tailored 959 00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:22,880 Speaker 1: as well. I mean, you don't have to spend hundreds 960 00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:25,760 Speaker 1: of dollars on it, but I always know on my jackets, 961 00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:28,160 Speaker 1: I need the small of my lower back taken in 962 00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:30,719 Speaker 1: so I get that like pulled in, so I get 963 00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:33,359 Speaker 1: like that nice shape. Because there's really nothing I mean, 964 00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:37,160 Speaker 1: aside from a guy in a T shirt and jeans 965 00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:40,000 Speaker 1: looking good. There's on the opposite end of that spectrum. 966 00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:43,040 Speaker 1: There's nothing better than a guy in a well tailored suit. 967 00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:47,160 Speaker 1: So tailoring is number one for me. Um, I think 968 00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:50,600 Speaker 1: also number two, like ath leisure is our friend. You know, 969 00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:53,080 Speaker 1: it's a it's a trend I think for men and 970 00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:57,640 Speaker 1: for women that has kind of allowed the people who 971 00:52:57,640 --> 00:53:00,920 Speaker 1: are usually uh, you know, maybe like to be in 972 00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:03,600 Speaker 1: their sweats a little bit more to actually look fashionable, 973 00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:07,239 Speaker 1: So how do you do that? Like? Um, So, the 974 00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:10,480 Speaker 1: ways that you can do it is by incorporating, you know, 975 00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:13,319 Speaker 1: pops of color, whether you're adding in like a little 976 00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:16,359 Speaker 1: bit of neon, maybe it's in your sneaker, or are 977 00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:19,239 Speaker 1: you incorporating a little bit of print, or are you 978 00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:23,680 Speaker 1: doing a full like gray sneaker, gray sweatshirt, great track 979 00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:26,080 Speaker 1: pay kind of deal. So I think that there are 980 00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:30,120 Speaker 1: are different ways that we can look still because comfort, 981 00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:33,719 Speaker 1: comfort is key, right, Everybody wants to feel comfortable, So 982 00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:37,040 Speaker 1: I think the key is to look comfortable but still 983 00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:39,399 Speaker 1: kind of polished and like you put an effort at 984 00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:42,040 Speaker 1: the same time. All valid points. And I agree with 985 00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:44,719 Speaker 1: you on the suit thing. Um and also for anybody 986 00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:47,759 Speaker 1: if you can't afford to because a custom suit is 987 00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:50,160 Speaker 1: very expensive. You can't afford a custom suit. What he 988 00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:52,680 Speaker 1: was saying with the tailored stuff is amazing. And once 989 00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:56,799 Speaker 1: you've worn anything that's custom or is tailored, you never 990 00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:59,720 Speaker 1: go back to wearing something that's boxy or not fitted 991 00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:02,840 Speaker 1: for you. Right, Yeah, So I did I do that 992 00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:04,600 Speaker 1: a lot with pants, Like I have to buy bigger 993 00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:06,680 Speaker 1: pants because my legs and acid are big, but my 994 00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:09,680 Speaker 1: waist is small and it comes from playing. We're aware 995 00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:15,640 Speaker 1: Brooks are, so I have to get every time I 996 00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:18,200 Speaker 1: see Brooks, I say, every time brook starcture the drum, Like, man, 997 00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:23,799 Speaker 1: your astles huge in those pants and underrunk. It's those 998 00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:26,480 Speaker 1: thick hockey legs, baby, it is. But I have to 999 00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:28,760 Speaker 1: get the But then like my waist is too big, 1000 00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:30,680 Speaker 1: and so I always get the waist taken in on 1001 00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:34,000 Speaker 1: the pants. Um. But for men, maybe men there don't 1002 00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:36,680 Speaker 1: even know that that you can buy something that fits 1003 00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:38,400 Speaker 1: you right in this one area and you can have 1004 00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:40,640 Speaker 1: somebody for fifteen or twenty bucks just clean up this 1005 00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:42,759 Speaker 1: other area that makes the pants or the shirt of 1006 00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:46,520 Speaker 1: the jacket, as you said, looks so much better. Um. Yeah, 1007 00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:48,719 Speaker 1: what's another what's a tip for? Like what if I 1008 00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:51,560 Speaker 1: don't even know my style? Like what's my style? Where 1009 00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:53,319 Speaker 1: do I look? Where do I find? How do I 1010 00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:55,759 Speaker 1: even find a style for myself if I don't even 1011 00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:58,160 Speaker 1: know what I want to dress like? Well, I think 1012 00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:00,440 Speaker 1: this is like one of the great things is about 1013 00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:05,040 Speaker 1: social media, you know, before Instagram and Pinterest and all, 1014 00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:07,920 Speaker 1: you know, just being able to surf the web. We 1015 00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:11,440 Speaker 1: relied or I relied on fashion magazines like g Q 1016 00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:14,440 Speaker 1: and whatever. To tell me what was happening in fashion, 1017 00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:17,239 Speaker 1: and now we have it really at our fingertips. So 1018 00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:21,480 Speaker 1: every time we're scrolling through Instagram, and I do this myself, 1019 00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:25,120 Speaker 1: like if I see an outfit or even a sponsored 1020 00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:28,279 Speaker 1: post or a designer posting something or you know, a 1021 00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:31,239 Speaker 1: friend of mine, whatever, I'll just save it, you know, 1022 00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:35,080 Speaker 1: to my Instagram save photos and then go back through 1023 00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:37,359 Speaker 1: and be like, oh yeah, I like that. You know 1024 00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:40,160 Speaker 1: Shurepa hoodie. I'm going to order one of those on 1025 00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:44,120 Speaker 1: Amazon or you know, I like right. I think it's 1026 00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:47,160 Speaker 1: like we can create these mood boards now without like 1027 00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:50,120 Speaker 1: it's not it's part of our daily routine. We don't 1028 00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:53,359 Speaker 1: have to set out to know to you know, uh, 1029 00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:55,400 Speaker 1: sit down and do like a mood board for what 1030 00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:57,200 Speaker 1: Spring is going to be. Like I don't even do that. 1031 00:55:57,239 --> 00:55:59,960 Speaker 1: I just kind of like go off what I resonate 1032 00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:01,880 Speaker 1: with and then you know, I kind of like we 1033 00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:05,640 Speaker 1: can search for any product now, so right off of Instagram. 1034 00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:07,640 Speaker 1: So I think that, you know, social media is a 1035 00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:11,600 Speaker 1: great resource. So if you say, like, you know, say 1036 00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:14,120 Speaker 1: one of the guys who's fashioned you like, is like, 1037 00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:17,279 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna throw Drake out there and you see 1038 00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:19,759 Speaker 1: he was wearing a camo hoodie like two days ago 1039 00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:22,680 Speaker 1: at the Nike show, Like you know, search for a 1040 00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:24,719 Speaker 1: camo hoodie and like order it and see if you 1041 00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:26,319 Speaker 1: like it, see if you wear it and if not. 1042 00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:29,000 Speaker 1: You know, most places will let you return things within 1043 00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:31,319 Speaker 1: thirty days and send it back in a box. So 1044 00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:33,600 Speaker 1: I think it's made it really. You know, fashion is 1045 00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:36,279 Speaker 1: very accessible, and I think we get to see so 1046 00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:39,040 Speaker 1: many images now that we should be using those as 1047 00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:43,960 Speaker 1: as little like starting points for ourselves. M I like question, 1048 00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:48,160 Speaker 1: if you can't afford a tailor, are there any products 1049 00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:50,840 Speaker 1: you can get that kind of allow you to like 1050 00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:54,560 Speaker 1: temporarily hold your pants in a certain place and things 1051 00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:57,080 Speaker 1: like that, like so that people can kind of do 1052 00:56:57,160 --> 00:57:00,239 Speaker 1: their own sort of customize work just to get through 1053 00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:02,520 Speaker 1: like the day or the event or if they don't 1054 00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:05,040 Speaker 1: have time to go to the tailor and things like that. 1055 00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:07,400 Speaker 1: Are the little products that they can pick up to 1056 00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:10,200 Speaker 1: sort of keep their pants looking like their hammed in 1057 00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:13,880 Speaker 1: a certain way and stuff like that, safety pins. That's it, 1058 00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:21,200 Speaker 1: and that totally when you know, I'm guilty of it too, 1059 00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:24,720 Speaker 1: Like when I'm styling clients, I don't necessarily think about 1060 00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:26,680 Speaker 1: you know, I haven't decided what I'm wearing to the 1061 00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:30,320 Speaker 1: Oscars on Sunday. At completely absolutely talk about the Oscars 1062 00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:33,080 Speaker 1: on Sunday, and I'm going to it. But it's um, 1063 00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:36,640 Speaker 1: you know, I've like safety pinned my pants and backseats 1064 00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:40,960 Speaker 1: of cabs. I've used double sided tape, um, you know. 1065 00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:45,200 Speaker 1: But I think I think for like big you know events, 1066 00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:47,480 Speaker 1: like if you're going to a wedding or for the 1067 00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:50,800 Speaker 1: holidays or a big family gathering. I also think not 1068 00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:53,880 Speaker 1: necessarily waiting until the last minute, Like I like to 1069 00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:56,920 Speaker 1: buy on sale as well. So I think like there 1070 00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:59,240 Speaker 1: are certain times of the year and you know, there 1071 00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:01,600 Speaker 1: are a lot of great websites that have you know, 1072 00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:05,800 Speaker 1: incredible products that discounted prices, and I think getting some 1073 00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:09,560 Speaker 1: things and I have like um suits and outfits in 1074 00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:12,240 Speaker 1: my closet that I just rewear because I know I've 1075 00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:15,040 Speaker 1: taken the time to have them tailored. And you know, 1076 00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:17,800 Speaker 1: it's easier as men to to kind of you know, 1077 00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:20,800 Speaker 1: just rewear your navy suit that you know that fits, 1078 00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:23,800 Speaker 1: or your pinstriped gray suit that you know that fits. 1079 00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:26,720 Speaker 1: So I think it's about building kind of a little 1080 00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:30,200 Speaker 1: bit of a very small wardrobe of basic things that 1081 00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:32,840 Speaker 1: will get you a long way and taking one trip 1082 00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:34,840 Speaker 1: to the tailor and saying like, hey, I've got these 1083 00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:38,440 Speaker 1: four jackets. I need these, you know, trimm like brought 1084 00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:40,280 Speaker 1: in a little bit or let out a little bit 1085 00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:42,760 Speaker 1: and then just storing them in your closet and when 1086 00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:44,680 Speaker 1: that thing comes up there, right there and ready for 1087 00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:47,720 Speaker 1: you to to wear. I was just gonna say this 1088 00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:49,960 Speaker 1: episode has been very informative, like I'm learning a lot 1089 00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:51,760 Speaker 1: of things, but I'm going to be taking a trip 1090 00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:55,120 Speaker 1: to the tailor this week. Oh good. Yeah. But also 1091 00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:57,960 Speaker 1: I have a question. So you obviously dress a lot 1092 00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:00,560 Speaker 1: of people and fashion is your thing, but are three 1093 00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:05,520 Speaker 1: male celebrities that these guys can kind of look forward? 1094 00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:15,640 Speaker 1: I don't know, like look at their fashion? Who art 1095 00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:18,080 Speaker 1: and like who had like nails it every time? Like 1096 00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:21,720 Speaker 1: you know, I think like currently this season, and someone 1097 00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:26,920 Speaker 1: who I think also wears things that you know, are aspirational. 1098 00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:29,640 Speaker 1: I think Brad Pitt when he's out and about, like 1099 00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:32,360 Speaker 1: his street style and then also his red carpet style. 1100 00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:35,360 Speaker 1: He just looks like the tailoring is really good, the 1101 00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:39,080 Speaker 1: fabrics look expensive. You know, He's very confident as well, 1102 00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:43,760 Speaker 1: so he just adds like that extra level of um, 1103 00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:45,840 Speaker 1: you know, confidence to all of his looks, but he's 1104 00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:48,560 Speaker 1: like you know, off his street style it is just 1105 00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:52,120 Speaker 1: like really cool. Um. So he's always somebody that I've 1106 00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:55,720 Speaker 1: admired for, like, you know, kind of decades now, and 1107 00:59:57,120 --> 01:00:01,560 Speaker 1: he he's probably number one, I think. Um. Also, like 1108 01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:04,680 Speaker 1: on the opposite end of that spectrum of somebody who 1109 01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:08,439 Speaker 1: can be a good marker, um for somebody who's doing 1110 01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:11,760 Speaker 1: different and something different in fashion is Timothy shallow May. 1111 01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:14,400 Speaker 1: I mean he's really really young, and he's you know, 1112 01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:17,800 Speaker 1: I think that what he does on the red carpet, 1113 01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:22,200 Speaker 1: and again also his style is it's very individually him. 1114 01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:24,880 Speaker 1: So that really like and he's young too, and I 1115 01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:28,440 Speaker 1: think sometimes I think what's really great about the younger 1116 01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:32,040 Speaker 1: generation of male movie stars or actors, especially as they're 1117 01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:35,240 Speaker 1: not afraid to do new things like that also makes 1118 01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:37,480 Speaker 1: me think of like a Chadwick Boseman or like a 1119 01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:41,000 Speaker 1: Michael b. Jordan's, Like these are guys who you know 1120 01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:45,840 Speaker 1: are their superheroes. They're like, um, you know these big 1121 01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:50,560 Speaker 1: guys who where like Gibonshi could tour like beat a jacket, 1122 01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:52,880 Speaker 1: but then in their street style, you know, they're doing 1123 01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:55,000 Speaker 1: like the cool thing with the sneakers and the sweats 1124 01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:58,760 Speaker 1: and the leather jackets. So I I look for like variety, 1125 01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:02,280 Speaker 1: and then I also look for those public moments where 1126 01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:04,800 Speaker 1: they're also pushing the boundary and not just putting on 1127 01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:07,200 Speaker 1: like a black tuch seed up. You know what it 1128 01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:09,320 Speaker 1: is listening to you talk Brad and just thinking about 1129 01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:13,160 Speaker 1: like why do I not invest in fashion? Not much? Um, 1130 01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:16,360 Speaker 1: we invest our time and energy and things that we 1131 01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:21,280 Speaker 1: where we get self expression, right like like a like 1132 01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:24,600 Speaker 1: Gavin does music, so he has his time and energy 1133 01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:26,960 Speaker 1: and music and that's where he feels self expressed. I've 1134 01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:31,400 Speaker 1: never looked at clothes for myself or fashion as a 1135 01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:35,600 Speaker 1: form of self expression and art. So that so clothes 1136 01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:37,760 Speaker 1: were just like I need to put on something that's comfortable, warm, 1137 01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:41,080 Speaker 1: and I can I can um just suffice in the 1138 01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:42,880 Speaker 1: room that Yeah, I'm going to suffice in the room 1139 01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:44,040 Speaker 1: that I'm going to be in. Do I need to 1140 01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:45,760 Speaker 1: dress up? Do I need to dress down? Whatever? It's 1141 01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:48,120 Speaker 1: fine for that room. But I've never looked at taking 1142 01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:50,240 Speaker 1: the time just what you were saying, taking time to 1143 01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:53,560 Speaker 1: like look at, Okay, I have this event or something 1144 01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:56,480 Speaker 1: coming up, and I want something that's actually gonna resemble 1145 01:01:57,120 --> 01:02:00,919 Speaker 1: and express myself in a visual full with fashion. I've 1146 01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:05,160 Speaker 1: never perceived it like that. Brooks's a whole It's a 1147 01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:11,120 Speaker 1: whole new world now. But that's the that's the beauty. 1148 01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:13,480 Speaker 1: That's the great thing about you know, it's like being 1149 01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:16,680 Speaker 1: working in fashion and having you know, there's a whole. 1150 01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:19,640 Speaker 1: I got into it because I appreciated the art of 1151 01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:23,720 Speaker 1: it so much, and then the fantasy that the red 1152 01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:28,680 Speaker 1: carpet brings to our everyday lives was also the other 1153 01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:30,560 Speaker 1: reason why I got into it, because I wanted to 1154 01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:32,880 Speaker 1: be a part of making that fantasy for other people. 1155 01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:36,000 Speaker 1: And so, you know, I you don't have to go 1156 01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:40,200 Speaker 1: necessarily the root of wearing an you know, an all 1157 01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:44,160 Speaker 1: monochrome like pink suit like Timothy Shallow may might do. 1158 01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:47,120 Speaker 1: But maybe it's taking the idea of wearing a black 1159 01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:52,520 Speaker 1: tuxedo and doing like a deep forest green tuxedo jacket 1160 01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:55,400 Speaker 1: with a black pant, or a navy blue tuxedo jacket 1161 01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:58,360 Speaker 1: with a black pant, and like, you know, just doing those. 1162 01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:01,080 Speaker 1: Maybe it's wearing a patent leather shoe instead of like 1163 01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:03,120 Speaker 1: a leather shoe with it, Like I think there are 1164 01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:07,840 Speaker 1: ways for everybody to kind of be able to adapt 1165 01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:11,320 Speaker 1: and and step into, you know, the world of using 1166 01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:14,840 Speaker 1: fashion as self expression without you know, having to show 1167 01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:17,720 Speaker 1: up in you know, a neon suit like I would do. 1168 01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:22,160 Speaker 1: Can I ask you one other fashion question? Yeah, why 1169 01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:25,880 Speaker 1: does Gucci care so much if you have the box 1170 01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:28,760 Speaker 1: for the shoes if they don't fit good and you 1171 01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:34,760 Speaker 1: want to send them back? Because I know you know 1172 01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:38,520 Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. This is such an in This 1173 01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:41,120 Speaker 1: is such an in question. Okay, So wait, so I 1174 01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:43,280 Speaker 1: don't have the box that costs you three dollars, but 1175 01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:48,640 Speaker 1: I do have the shoes that don't feel good. Oh yeah, 1176 01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:51,680 Speaker 1: but where's the box? I'm like, don't you have an 1177 01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:56,240 Speaker 1: extra box? Do you just do a right here? This 1178 01:03:56,320 --> 01:04:01,480 Speaker 1: is so awesome? Um, well, I for example, I mean 1179 01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:05,640 Speaker 1: for example, yeah, I mean most most places, like I 1180 01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:08,800 Speaker 1: order most of my stuff online and they have like, 1181 01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:11,200 Speaker 1: you know, special tags on them. So if I removed 1182 01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:13,640 Speaker 1: the special tag, or even if I step on it 1183 01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:15,160 Speaker 1: while I'm trying it on, I have to keep it 1184 01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:17,320 Speaker 1: unless I want to fight with somebody on the phone. 1185 01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:21,000 Speaker 1: So it's basically like as my grandmother would say when 1186 01:04:21,040 --> 01:04:22,920 Speaker 1: we would go to auction houses when I was a 1187 01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:26,920 Speaker 1: little kid, she would say, um, you know, uh, don't 1188 01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:30,200 Speaker 1: be a bull in a china shop. If you break it, 1189 01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:32,920 Speaker 1: you If you break it, you buy it. So basically 1190 01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:35,919 Speaker 1: like Gucci is looking at it like you're not You're 1191 01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:40,400 Speaker 1: not returning the full experience. So they may have a 1192 01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:44,160 Speaker 1: box back there, but you need to hold onto the 1193 01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:48,680 Speaker 1: box in order to return something. What if? What if? 1194 01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:54,600 Speaker 1: Like I know, you know exactly, you know exactly what 1195 01:04:54,640 --> 01:04:56,840 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Kevin, let me regreave this one for you. 1196 01:04:57,080 --> 01:04:59,200 Speaker 1: Let's say we're let's say we're back ten years ago 1197 01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:01,880 Speaker 1: and somebody buy is your c D and then they 1198 01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:03,440 Speaker 1: listen to it for a second and I don't like 1199 01:05:03,520 --> 01:05:05,440 Speaker 1: this music and I'm just gonna bring it back to you, 1200 01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:07,240 Speaker 1: but I left the case at home. But hey, here's 1201 01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:10,480 Speaker 1: your c D. I actually think you're I think you're 1202 01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:15,160 Speaker 1: actually still allowed to return it. But also who would 1203 01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:19,560 Speaker 1: return one of Gavin c D? Yeah, that was the 1204 01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:24,840 Speaker 1: wildest hypothetically there by, Dude. I appreciate you coming on 1205 01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:26,720 Speaker 1: with us. I want to learn more about you. You 1206 01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:28,840 Speaker 1: have a new podcast where we can hear more about this, 1207 01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:33,560 Speaker 1: right you, I sure do. It's called brad behavior and 1208 01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:38,080 Speaker 1: it's uh super fun we talk a lot of fashion. 1209 01:05:39,080 --> 01:05:42,000 Speaker 1: My husband comes on for a segment and answers questions. 1210 01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:44,880 Speaker 1: And I've had some really fun, great guests on, so 1211 01:05:44,920 --> 01:05:48,000 Speaker 1: you'll have to come on sometime. Yeah, hey, wait, wait, 1212 01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:50,120 Speaker 1: one more thing? Can we do? Like? Can we do 1213 01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:52,760 Speaker 1: like a style day where we go and we shoot 1214 01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:55,040 Speaker 1: a bit the group of us and you and you 1215 01:05:55,080 --> 01:05:57,560 Speaker 1: show us like this doesn't work for you? That works 1216 01:05:57,600 --> 01:06:03,200 Speaker 1: for you? Love? I would love the thing more. I'm 1217 01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:05,560 Speaker 1: so into it. It's a deal that would be amazing. 1218 01:06:05,640 --> 01:06:10,480 Speaker 1: And can you We're gonna find you Someci Okay, we're 1219 01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:13,280 Speaker 1: gonna find you Gucci shoes that you won't want to return. 1220 01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:18,040 Speaker 1: I wants it. I need. I need more fashion tips 1221 01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:20,480 Speaker 1: than anybody, Brad. So I'm gonna listen to brad behavior. 1222 01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:22,400 Speaker 1: And I'd love to do something with you and Gav 1223 01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:25,320 Speaker 1: and where you dress us both and um, because I 1224 01:06:25,360 --> 01:06:27,960 Speaker 1: know I desperately need it. So even it's not for 1225 01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:30,840 Speaker 1: the show, I need your help just in my personal 1226 01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:34,880 Speaker 1: life with with dressing because I basically shop at Lululemon 1227 01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:37,960 Speaker 1: is basically where I buy my anytime Brooks. Do you 1228 01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:40,360 Speaker 1: know where to find men? Yes, let's let's definitely do 1229 01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:44,200 Speaker 1: that video. Yeah, Okay, check out Brad's podcast, Brad Behavior 1230 01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:45,560 Speaker 1: and Brad, I love your brother. I can't wait to 1231 01:06:45,560 --> 01:06:49,840 Speaker 1: see your face soon right by. It's fun. Thanks guys. 1232 01:06:51,080 --> 01:06:53,720 Speaker 1: Well that was fun, dude. That was That was like 1233 01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:56,320 Speaker 1: the most educational episode that we've ever done. For myself, 1234 01:06:56,320 --> 01:06:57,919 Speaker 1: I learned how to groom and I'm going to get 1235 01:06:58,080 --> 01:07:02,200 Speaker 1: lessons from Brad on how to style and like to 1236 01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:05,040 Speaker 1: be new men. Yeah, Tasha, you'd be rocking. I'm excited 1237 01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:07,560 Speaker 1: to see her as this transformation. Yeah, we're gonna have 1238 01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:11,280 Speaker 1: to it before and after. Let's do it before and 1239 01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:13,600 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna be doing a clothing check speaks. You 1240 01:07:13,640 --> 01:07:16,000 Speaker 1: guys look good. Okay, So Tasha is the judge then, 1241 01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:19,040 Speaker 1: so you'll come back Tashia for another show. Absolutely. Like 1242 01:07:19,080 --> 01:07:21,000 Speaker 1: I said, I learned a lot too, So this was 1243 01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:25,000 Speaker 1: very beneficial for myself. You were a wonderful, gracious co host. Oh, 1244 01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:27,280 Speaker 1: I thank you. We'd love to have you back again. 1245 01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:31,200 Speaker 1: That's awesome. Where can our listeners find You're awesome? What 1246 01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:33,400 Speaker 1: where can our listeners find you? Where do you hang 1247 01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:37,760 Speaker 1: out the most? Instagram? You don't want all our listeners 1248 01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:43,400 Speaker 1: coming to your house? Exact address? Yeah, go find me 1249 01:07:43,400 --> 01:07:46,040 Speaker 1: on Instagram. My handle is t A Y s H 1250 01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:50,720 Speaker 1: I A A Oh love it right on. That's it 1251 01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:53,600 Speaker 1: for this episode. We love your feedback on this and 1252 01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:55,600 Speaker 1: also we need your help guys. So if anybody out 1253 01:07:55,640 --> 01:08:00,400 Speaker 1: there listening is a no stuff about grooming or fashion sprit, 1254 01:08:00,800 --> 01:08:03,160 Speaker 1: I'm desperate for your help. Gab, You're doing good, but 1255 01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:06,520 Speaker 1: I'm working on it today. I got lucky. Yeah you did. Yeah, 1256 01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:08,840 Speaker 1: I appreciate you. Guys. Listen. That's it for this episode. 1257 01:08:08,920 --> 01:08:11,160 Speaker 1: Till next week, take care of one another, love one another, 1258 01:08:11,240 --> 01:08:14,160 Speaker 1: and we'll see you back in Yeah,