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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and

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Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: And welcome to the Drive by him, Dale LOLLI he

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Speaker 2: is the Matt Williamson And uh well, it's a breezy,

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Speaker 2: chilly Thursday, and.

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Speaker 3: You get pretty tired of it. To be honest with you,

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Speaker 3: I have a thick skin for such things. I've lived

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Speaker 3: in this area of the country my whole life, but

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Speaker 3: it's been about enough. I could use a warm day.

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Speaker 2: I grew up north of here, so I used to

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Speaker 2: all the snow in the cold. Yeah, the last couple

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Speaker 2: of years, it's just like all right, yeah, we don't

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Speaker 2: get any of this, and then like week after week

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Speaker 2: and week, you know, just it's just.

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Speaker 3: Been cold and cold and shivering for a month and

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Speaker 3: a half.

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Speaker 2: And uh well, I mean, you know, Justin Miller is

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Speaker 2: going to do the polar Plunge this weekend on Saturday.

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Speaker 3: Have fun, have fun with that.

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Speaker 2: You won't send me anywhere near that.

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Speaker 3: I could imagine doing that right now out yeah, after

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Speaker 3: walking in from the breeze through there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, when Justin doesn't do the show next week, because

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Speaker 2: we'll be in Indianapolis and Justin will be in the hospital

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Speaker 2: with the money.

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Speaker 3: For charity the cause, So I get it. I wouldn't

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Speaker 3: want to do it. It's a little chili for late February.

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Speaker 2: I can think of other things that I would much

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Speaker 2: rather do for charity. Yes, jump into a frozen it

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Speaker 2: may it's cold enough that the pool may freeze.

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Speaker 3: I assume it's not heated or it kind of defeats

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Speaker 3: the purpose. Right, Oh, yeah, you wouldn't catch me doing that.

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Speaker 3: Kudos to Justin and everybody else who are going to

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Speaker 3: jump into the cause shrinkage.

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Speaker 2: It's a real so, Matt, I texted you this earlier today. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and usually we do this separately, Yeah, yeah, yeah, but

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Speaker 2: I wanted to pull back the curtain on this this

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Speaker 2: year and let's do this collectively where we do so

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Speaker 2: to let people know who were newer listeners to the show.

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Speaker 2: Every year we come up with our wherever the Steelers

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Speaker 2: are picking you, if they're fifteen, our top fifteen players

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Speaker 2: in the draft for the Steelers, they.

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Speaker 3: Were one to pick one guy. If yeah, thirty two,

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Speaker 3: we pick thirty two guys, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, right, they'll have twenty one guys on their board.

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Speaker 2: Who they would take it pick twenty one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, So we come up.

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Speaker 2: With our twenty one players this year, who we would

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Speaker 2: pick at twenty one if we were the Steelers. So

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Speaker 2: I thought we'd do that and do it on the air,

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Speaker 2: kind of talk three combines.

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Speaker 3: Chan change, Yeah, our final answer. Obviously, there'll be things

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Speaker 2: Out about guys. This guy is a knee, that guy,

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Speaker 2: you know, something along those lines. But just guys that

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Speaker 2: as of today, on February twentieth, if we were putting

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Speaker 2: together our top board for our first round board for

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Speaker 2: the Steelers, who those guys would be.

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Speaker 3: It's probably a two segment endeavor.

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Speaker 2: It could be.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, we.

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Speaker 2: Don't have to talk through a lot of different guys.

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Speaker 3: I would think we should just like come up with

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Speaker 3: any name, get them on paper, and then are building

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Speaker 3: the board. You know what I mean, Like position by position?

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Speaker 3: Would you consider this guy at twenty one? You know, yes,

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Speaker 3: I would. Okay, we might end up with twenty five names,

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Speaker 2: I mean, so well we'll get the twenty one have

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Speaker 2: you know, when we talk about trading down where the

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Speaker 2: Steelers possibly trading down in the draft. If one of

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Speaker 2: those or several of those guys who they would pick

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Or there could be tears too. There

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Speaker 3: twenty guys fall off the board, who you'd take it? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I mean no, you have to know that answer.

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Speaker 2: Now before we start this endeavor. Are there any positions

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Speaker 2: that you would take off the board?

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Speaker 3: I don't think like I think I would take Abdull

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Speaker 2: Well that's why it might be inverse like you again,

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Speaker 3: He should probably be on the list. Yeah, but he's

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Speaker 3: not gonna be in my top five. Right for the Steelers.

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Speaker 3: For the Steelers. This is all through the Steelers' eyes.

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Speaker 3: This is not our big board generic right, All right,

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Speaker 3: well let's get started. So how about you just want

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Speaker 3: to start a quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Let's just let's just roll through.

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Speaker 3: I would definitely take Ward, Okay, I don't know if

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I would either.

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Speaker 3: And I know this sounds crazy, and I'm not trying to.

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Speaker 3: I think people know I'm not a clickbait guy. But

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Speaker 3: we put together our top five quarterbacks, and today I

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Speaker 3: moved him to number three. I have shocked ahead of him.

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Speaker 3: I don't think he's special. I don't either. I mean

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Speaker 3: I think there's only one quarterback that's a definite yes.

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Speaker 2: Well well, I mean, if we get to let's say

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Speaker 2: we only have eighteen names, we might right, he may be,

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Speaker 3: If he's not, if you're not thrilled about it. Twenty one.

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Speaker 3: Is there only one running back?

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Speaker 3: guess I guess we should go through receivers then, okay,

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Speaker 2: I don't love this group. I just don't.

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Speaker 3: I know you were saying that off the air. You

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Speaker 3: just did your five top five receivers and don't love

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Speaker 2: I don't. I like some of the guys deeper into

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Speaker 3: Value yeah yeah yeah, or where you're spending you don't love,

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Speaker 3: We'll put them on here because yeah yeah, they're going.

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Speaker 3: I would definitely have McMillan on there. I think i'd

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Speaker 2: That might be it. That's it at twenty one. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't even consider anybody else.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm just talking about considered, you know, because

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 3: I kind of wish I had a listen from him.

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Speaker 3: So don't forget like O lines and edges and stuff.

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Speaker 2: But well, let me go to get the combine tracker here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that'll or do that right. So I don't think

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Speaker 2: No, I don't think I know we did. I know

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Speaker 2: receiver see what I think? Warren yes, Warren yes, Colston Loveland.

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Speaker 3: I'd say no.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't even love if everybody else was gone, you

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Speaker 2: had to take Tyler Warren like I would find useful. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and I think he's a very good football player.

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Speaker 3: But like, okay, and maybe for of those receivers I

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Speaker 3: just mentioned too, I would not swap twenty one for

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Speaker 3: right this minute. Yeah, you know, how about O Lineman.

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Speaker 3: I have a hard time taking any interior.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not taking any. So Banks and Campbell.

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Speaker 3: Should be on the list. I think I would put

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Speaker 3: the Ohio State kid on the list. Simmons, And I'm

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Speaker 2: The REVEC again. That's why this could change. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: but I'm not arma Membo.

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Speaker 3: Put them on the list, but he's probably be my

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Speaker 3: first cut. Did you put Leveling on the list?

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Speaker 2: I did not.

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Speaker 2: Let's let's see where we get here before we start

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Speaker 2: cutting guys.

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Speaker 3: Think about Membo is there's a lot of spots on

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Speaker 3: the line. He could help you. Yeah, Get've been saying

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Speaker 3: with Will Johnson, but I mean it would really things

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Speaker 2: I'll put them on the list.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And if you know, if we have to start cutting,

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's better than I thought. We'll get there then,

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Speaker 3: although I don't know, well, we probably won't have a linebacker. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: how many you let's move our edge for. I mean,

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Speaker 3: obviously Abdul Carter's let's let's rule through the names. There's

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Speaker 3: so many of them that could get first round consideration.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to skip any Carter would be in

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Speaker 3: my twenty one of course. Yeah, trade high Smith or whatever.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what you do, but you just take

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Speaker 3: mikel Williams. I don't think I don't have any more,

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Speaker 3: and there's really good ones. Mike Greene, I mean, what

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Speaker 2: Hope someone else drafts them, develop them, you know, James Pearce, Azruku.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if we have to get twenty one, those

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Speaker 2: are the names you start getting to.

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Speaker 3: But you know some are going to go. Both Georgia

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Speaker 3: guys are probably off the board. Yeah, but it's not

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Speaker 3: a need. I'm might swapping twenty one for any of

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Speaker 2: I think at that point you would trade out because

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Speaker 2: somebody else would want to come up in.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the question that this exercise isn't as easy as

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Speaker 2: Let's move to defensive.

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Speaker 3: Tackle, but like last year it was super easy. Like

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Speaker 3: start prioritizing our quarnerbacks. Let's go through the names. Definitely Johnson,

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Well, right now we got twenty two players.

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Speaker 3: Okay, are they of the corners were missing? Though?

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Speaker 3: And I'm sure's people losing their minds that we didn't

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Speaker 2: Well, let's put it this way. If you look at

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Speaker 3: Really, But who are his highest graded? The guys we

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Speaker 3: Then we got the right names.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we got twenty four of them.

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Speaker 2: So we got right now, cam Ward, Ashton, Genty, Ted Road, McMillan, Burton,

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Speaker 2: The offensive lineman, we got Banks, Campbell, Simmons, Membo, Ed Rusher,

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Speaker 3: Would you take Alexander over any of those names? He

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Speaker 2: All right, So that puts us then at twenty five

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Speaker 3: Okay, So we used to be should we just go

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Speaker 3: He is Matt Williams easier late in the process, by

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Speaker 2: Dale Lolly. This is the Drive on the Steelers Audio Network.

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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back. I'm Dale Lolly. He is the Matt Williamson

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Speaker 2: and we're putting together our top twenty one players for

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Speaker 2: the Steelers as of February twentieth. Oh yeah, pre combine.

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Speaker 2: Very early in the process.

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Speaker 3: Someone might go back and look at this in a

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Speaker 2: We probably should we probably will with some of these guys,

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Speaker 3: They're not all going to make the cut.

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Speaker 2: Will not all make the cut. Here again, that's cam Ward, Ashton, Genty,

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Speaker 2: are we cutting? Well, let's let's so let's start at one. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: who's one?

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Speaker 3: So? I think this shows it's not a great draft

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Speaker 2: If number one has to be cam Warden.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I do too. I didn't know what we even

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Speaker 3: talked about this at all. To me, there's only three

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Speaker 3: I'm going cam Ward and I'm spending my money elsewhere.

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Speaker 2: On something happens and he follows to twenty one. It's

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Speaker 2: take him. Yes, he's my number one hunter is my

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Speaker 3: I would take Mason Graham ahead of him.

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Speaker 2: I hear that. I don't or the Steelers, neither one

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Speaker 3: I'm cool with Carter next, And it doesn't matter. We

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Speaker 2: Five is where it gets interesting. Five to me might

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Speaker 3: I think we're gonna disagree on this. Next one.

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Speaker 2: put that in. Yeah, he's definitely that would be a

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00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:52,800
Speaker 2: no brainer.

438
00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:54,879
Speaker 3: I mean, I know he's gonna be good at football

439
00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:55,320
Speaker 3: at the next one.

440
00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:57,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, he's gonna do that, right, He's gonna play

441
00:21:57,800 --> 00:21:59,679
Speaker 2: and as we said before, he's gonna be the offensive

442
00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:00,320
Speaker 2: rookie the year.

443
00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,879
Speaker 3: I can't go to the any other lineman or a

444
00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:16,680
Speaker 3: tight end or who's your number two corner Baron Baron?

445
00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:21,639
Speaker 3: That's too early for Baron. I mean we're not I'm not.

446
00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:26,600
Speaker 2: I'm not taking Baron over one of the big guys. Okay,

447
00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,439
Speaker 2: so the corners off the at least some of these

448
00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,480
Speaker 2: big guys. I would take Grant over Baron. Yeah, I

449
00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:31,920
Speaker 2: would too.

450
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,520
Speaker 3: I don't know if i'd take a high state No's

451
00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:38,040
Speaker 3: over Baron, that would be discuss you're going to start

452
00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,320
Speaker 3: talking about to be a wild till we bring up

453
00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:40,840
Speaker 3: a no lineman.

454
00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,399
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, they're going to be much lower in

455
00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:45,879
Speaker 2: the list. I've definitely had the receivers ranked ahead of that.

456
00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,320
Speaker 2: But I think I think if it comes down, if

457
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,720
Speaker 2: it's a situation where it's Grant or one of the

458
00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:52,960
Speaker 2: receivers taking Grant.

459
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:56,680
Speaker 3: I would Except for McMillan, I think he's a clear one.

460
00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,879
Speaker 3: I don't know he's gonna run real well, I don't

461
00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:04,239
Speaker 3: really care. I mean runs of four to six, I mean,

462
00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,120
Speaker 3: if it's under four to six, I was gonna say,

463
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:10,920
Speaker 3: or under four six five, I'm okay with it. See

464
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:15,640
Speaker 3: I'm not like I want we can go Grant McMillan.

465
00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,480
Speaker 2: Here's the thing with that with for me and McMillan,

466
00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,840
Speaker 2: I don't see a ton of difference between McMillan when

467
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 2: you watch a tape and the Iowa State kid.

468
00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:30,320
Speaker 3: That's fair. They do a lot of the same stuff.

469
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:32,359
Speaker 3: I think he's a lot better of his breaks. I

470
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:36,840
Speaker 3: think he's better agility. They do have a similar type

471
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:40,480
Speaker 3: of game. Yeah, I just don't might be as Yeah,

472
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:42,040
Speaker 3: that's oh, that's.

473
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 2: Really what it is, is a compliment to Higgins because

474
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,480
Speaker 2: one is being talked about as being a potential top

475
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 2: ten pick and the other one's being talked about in

476
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:50,919
Speaker 2: the second round, right, and I don't see a ton

477
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:52,200
Speaker 2: of difference between the two of them.

478
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,679
Speaker 3: That's actually a really fun exercise to do late in

479
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:57,880
Speaker 3: the draft, is like, who are two guys that are

480
00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:01,159
Speaker 3: pretty similar but just our viewed that way. Yeah, you know,

481
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 3: like it's a lot of it's just first impressions.

482
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 2: And one was the only target on his team, so

483
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:07,680
Speaker 2: he get peppered with footballs in the last two seasons.

484
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:09,439
Speaker 2: The other one had another guy who's going to be

485
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 2: a Day two draft pick in this draft, and.

486
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:14,719
Speaker 3: Like I said, some of it's just first impressions. One

487
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:16,399
Speaker 3: of them the five star recruit, one of them is

488
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,600
Speaker 3: the two I'm just talking about, not even Yeah, and

489
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,240
Speaker 3: everyone's looking at this guy first round, first round, first round,

490
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,680
Speaker 3: and then he doesn't do anything to hurt himself. But

491
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 3: is he really that much different than this dude over here?

492
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 3: You know? Not?

493
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:27,320
Speaker 2: In my eyes?

494
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:30,280
Speaker 3: That's what's fun about being in the inn. You start

495
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:33,280
Speaker 3: moving the maget. I can't go there this early. It's like,

496
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,680
Speaker 3: I'm fine with Grant. I mean, I think he's gonna

497
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 3: go insane next week.

498
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:43,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do too. In terms of any of the

499
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 2: other defensive tackles there. Who else weve on the list, Harmon,

500
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 2: Tyler Williams, Darius Alexander.

501
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 3: I'm definitely a Grant over all those guys. Yeah, that's fine,

502
00:24:55,320 --> 00:25:01,800
Speaker 3: putting him next. Okay, so how many? Way up to eight? Okay,

503
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 3: McMillan's still my pick.

504
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:12,160
Speaker 2: But I think if one of the offensive tackles was there,

505
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 2: when do you start thinking about I think they would

506
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,440
Speaker 2: take them because he's just kick one.

507
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,959
Speaker 3: Of the other tackles into guard or whatever. I mean,

508
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 3: there's value there.

509
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 2: Oh, there's no doubt I mean, if one of those

510
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,439
Speaker 2: guys were there, you would take Will Campbell or Calvin

511
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 2: Banks Simmons. You have to see the medicals.

512
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would probably who It wouldn't be Banks for me.

513
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 3: I don't think Banks is as good. Yeah, so Will Campbell. There,

514
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:45,439
Speaker 3: I an't say Campbell might be a five potential five yeah, uh,

515
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 3: spot starter, So maybe I.

516
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 2: Think he's I think he's the best offensive lineman in

517
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:50,480
Speaker 2: the draft.

518
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 3: Therefore, I just don't think he's the best tackle. Yeah,

519
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 3: tackle right right?

520
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:55,639
Speaker 2: You would put him, you'd find a spot from.

521
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:59,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, he would play somewhere or move around or whatever.

522
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 3: I'm fine with that. Okay, So now we're ten. I

523
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 3: don't have Banks right behind him, though. I think there's

524
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,680
Speaker 3: a gap between those two. Yeah, I could agree with that.

525
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 3: Give me McMillan.

526
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 2: Eventually, we'll put McMillan there. I I just again, I

527
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,680
Speaker 2: don't I don't love them, but that's.

528
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 3: Just my Okay. So who else is who's our favorite corner?

529
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:23,920
Speaker 2: Mine is Johnny Barron?

530
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 3: Me too?

531
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:31,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, who's our favorite d tackle? Well, they're different, they're different.

532
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,679
Speaker 2: Derek Carmon is different than Tyler Williams.

533
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:35,880
Speaker 3: But I think if we're sitting there at twenty one,

534
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 3: and they're the two top I.

535
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 2: Think, well again, so I can I think I can

536
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 2: get more nose tackles, and well, we have to be

537
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 2: a nose tackle for all you know. Oh, I think

538
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 2: it is, but that comes into play. That comes into play, right,

539
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 2: That's why there's no other back. Can I get another

540
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:53,639
Speaker 2: Derek Carmon later in the draft.

541
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe it's probably Alexander you know, or you know,

542
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:04,399
Speaker 3: I mean there's other ones, yes, there are, Okay, so

543
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:09,639
Speaker 3: the Harmon's over Williams. Yeah, okay, I just like to

544
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 3: narro him down in the categories. Who's our number one

545
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 3: d tackle vers our number one corner? Would either safety?

546
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,439
Speaker 3: I mean you think about Starks here or something crazy

547
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 3: like that. He's lower on my list me too. I

548
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 3: mean he's I don't know that.

549
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:27,920
Speaker 2: He's special, special, right, he's good. He's like, oh, I

550
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,440
Speaker 2: got to have that guy, whereas Mure he.

551
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:34,440
Speaker 3: Could be could be. I mean, I'm taking Banks over

552
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,640
Speaker 3: those guys. I'm taking Yeah, I agree, you know, Bear?

553
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 3: And what about Tyler Warren? That was actually my next question,

554
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 3: because he is he's I think he's special.

555
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 2: I like him, but I like to actually like him

556
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 2: better as a weapon than any of the receivers are

557
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:50,400
Speaker 2: going to go in the first round.

558
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,160
Speaker 3: I think he's a lot like the gent conversation. Yeah,

559
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 3: you know, just the offense. He's just score points and

560
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 3: he's good at offense.

561
00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 2: Ye, five ways to use him. Maybe he's not all right.

562
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,360
Speaker 2: I'll put Tyler Warren there, and.

563
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 3: When we read over this we might be like, Warren's

564
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 3: too low. Maybe I could make that arguement right now,

565
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 3: like Warren verse Grant is a conversation to me, Yeah,

566
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,400
Speaker 3: because I can find a nose in the drown too.

567
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 2: I mean, stat McMillan is a you would take I would.

568
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 2: I mean they do a lot of the same stuff. Actually,

569
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 2: they're both big and they you know.

570
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 3: More might be right next to genty the more I think,

571
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 3: I mean, just because he's good. He's a good football player.

572
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 3: Would we be the point where we can cross off

573
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 3: a name or two who has no chance for you.

574
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 2: I don't know that we're going to get Tho zierie

575
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 2: A Thomas or Maxwell Harriston at twenty one.

576
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 3: They're gone. Yeah, that's easy. I don't know that we'll

577
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 3: get to the other receivers. But I don't know that

578
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 3: I'm ready I'm not ready to cut them.

579
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 2: Not ready to cut him.

580
00:28:55,800 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, to me, I might cut both safeties. Would be.

581
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 2: I like Golden better than the other guys. Me too, Ah,

582
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 2: I need to do more work on Burton. Every here's

583
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 2: the problem with Burton. I know, when you're watching the

584
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 2: tape of Burton, it's frustrated. It's a lot of bubble

585
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 2: screens over and over. And I saw something where somebody's

586
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 2: like seventy five percent of his throws were bubble screens,

587
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 2: Like they didn't do him any favors of Missouri by

588
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 2: like whose quarterback is?

589
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 3: I don't think he's any good.

590
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 2: You see him, you see some stuff down the field

591
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 2: and you're like, okay, yeah, but then you see one

592
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 2: one of them per game. Everything else is just throw

593
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 2: them the ball at a line of scrimmage and let him

594
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 2: go be Deebo Samuel.

595
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 3: I would say, his after the catch stuff is great,

596
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 3: it's great, it's great.

597
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 2: But is he gonna be able to do that in

598
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 2: the NFL?

599
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 3: Right? And I don't think he's as physical as Debo. No,

600
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 3: and I hesitate to even mention this name, but in

601
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 3: terms of I think he's the Michelo ultravert of Jamaar Chase.

602
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:58,719
Speaker 3: I think Chase has a lot of those qualities too.

603
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 3: Chase is the best, yeah, right, but I think they

604
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 3: could be used. But all they don't use.

605
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 2: Him that all of his throws are within ten yards

606
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 2: of the line of scrimming.

607
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 3: Right, all of them because they can't protect on their

608
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:08,959
Speaker 3: quarterback stayings.

609
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 2: And to me, Ekuba is a slot.

610
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 3: I think he's much more, but I don't know that

611
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 3: he's a difference maker. Yeah, I mean he would be

612
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 3: fourth on my list. That's why I have gold in

613
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 3: the head, like I would have Golden ahead of him. Yeah,

614
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 3: I think I'd have Burden ahead of both mm But

615
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 3: I'm not trading twenty one for any of them right now. No,

616
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 3: neither am I I'm not sure anybody on the board

617
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 3: I'm trading twenty one for right now.

618
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 2: Well, we're twelve players right now, right right, and you're

619
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 2: hoping Edges go and see Rivers and right, I mean

620
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 2: that's the way it goes. So, uh, would would you

621
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 2: take Tyler Williams ahead of those guys? I think Banks

622
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 2: over all of them, okay, or both linemen Calvin Banks.

623
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 2: I mean, if we're gonna have Simmons on there, I

624
00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 2: think we have to kind of.

625
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,080
Speaker 3: Assume he's Josh Simmons.

626
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 2: All right, now he's my left tackle and that's fourteen. Yeah,

627
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 2: who's our favorite? Probably Baron? I think.

628
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 3: So we've probably had this conversation before.

629
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 2: I would I would take John A. Baron before the

630
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 2: before the receivers, how.

631
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 3: About before the d lineman.

632
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 2: It would depend on which diff I think Tyler Williams

633
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 2: would be after Baron to me, as with Alexander, Harmon's

634
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 2: already off the board.

635
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 3: Harmon's off the board. Yeah, then Baron's next. Okay, because

636
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 3: we've definitely had these conversations at a mock when we're

637
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 3: up at twenty one.

638
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 2: Right now we're sixteen.

639
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 3: What's the left? Two safeties, the.

640
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 2: Three wide receivers, two safeties, two defensive tackles. We still

641
00:31:57,920 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 2: have armand Membo available.

642
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 3: Let's cut him, all right?

643
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 2: That makes it easy.

644
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 3: Then I don't know that I can take a safety.

645
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 2: I don't know that I can't either.

646
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 3: You know, it comes down to it like if somebody,

647
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 3: somebody's got to get cut.

648
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 2: So we cut them both, because that drops us under

649
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 2: twenty then or under down to twenty.

650
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 3: Well, then we can't j Membo over the safeties I

651
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 3: might eat. I think I would. Yeah. Does that keep

652
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 3: us at twenty one? I think it does? Yeah, Okay,

653
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 3: that puts us at at twenty one. Okay, so it's

654
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 3: Membo number twenty one.

655
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 2: If I cut, if I cut both safeties, m memory

656
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 2: it starts, then we're at twenty one players.

657
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 3: Okay? And how many have we ranked so far?

658
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 2: We have sixteen or fifteen ranked?

659
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 3: Okay, so let's start working the other way. Okay. I

660
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 3: think Membo's probably twenty one since we just cut them

661
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 3: two seconds ago. Yeah, I think that's Can we agree

662
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 3: on the order of the three receivers? Probably not.

663
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 2: I'm not for any I like Golden. The best of

664
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 2: that group is Ekibo last.

665
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 3: Yes, we can agree on that, And I'm fine with

666
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 3: Golden ahead of Burdon because frankly, I'm not staying on

667
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 3: the table for any of those. So if those three

668
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 3: are all going to be in there in that order,

669
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 3: where do we wedge the remaining player or two?

670
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 2: So Matthew Golden and then I'm gonna put right now

671
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 2: Luther Burton ahead of them. But I'm not sure that

672
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 2: I would take any of those guys. That's that's nineteen

673
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 2: we got two players left to rank, and that would

674
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 2: be Tyler Williams and Darius Alexander.

675
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 3: I would rather have all the receivers An Alexander, Okay,

676
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 3: so he was probably twenty and I guess how about

677
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 3: Williams versus Alexander. I'd rather have Williams, I think, yes,

678
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 3: would rather have Williams or his teammate Acuba.

679
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,839
Speaker 2: I think I'd rather have Golden. Then I would take

680
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 2: Tyler Williams. Then I would take Burton in Ecuba. Fine,

681
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 2: I can handle that, all right.

682
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,400
Speaker 3: So what we ended up with our twenty three segment

683
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,839
Speaker 3: project because when we read over these, we might be

684
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 3: like that guy's at fourteen, he should be at six. Yeah,

685
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.

686
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:51,919
Speaker 2: Well, we might be too low on Tyler Warren.

687
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 3: Warren's the one that keep coming, keep him back there.

688
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:55,760
Speaker 2: So we ended up with an order of cam Ward

689
00:34:55,800 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 2: Travis Hunter, Mason, Graham, Abdull Carter, Walter, Nolan, will Johnson,

690
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 2: Ashton Genty, Kenneth Grant, will Campbell, Ted McMillan, Derek Carmon,

691
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 2: Tyler Warren, Kelvin Banks, Josh Simmons, John A. Barn, Matthew Golden,

692
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 2: Tyler Williams, Luther Burton, Mecca, Ecuba, Darius, Alexander and armand Membo.

693
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 2: Those are a twenty one. There's a lot of mine love, right,

694
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 2: I'm right there with you.

695
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, And what's weird is there's a chance we get

696
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 3: our number four guy at twenty one is an Nolin

697
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 3: four or five, he's five, Okay, he's the top four.

698
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 3: You got that.

699
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 2: We could get our number eight at twenty one, right.

700
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 3: And it often happens that way, folks, right, I mean

701
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 3: by the way, I mean when you do it, and

702
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 3: we'll have this conversation close to the draft, but I

703
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 3: urge everyone to put their twenty one together, especially later. Yeah,

704
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 3: and you'll realize you're not gonna get twenty one. I

705
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:50,839
Speaker 3: mean there's almost zero chances you end up with twenty one.

706
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 3: You often to end up with twelve or thirteen. Yeah,

707
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 3: there's Gonnaanders are gonna go.

708
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 2: It's gonna be a bunch of edge rushers, absolutely.

709
00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 3: I mean, Starks could go.

710
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 2: You right of the of the twenty any one guys

711
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 2: currently on our list, there'll probably be five or six

712
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 2: of them available when the Steelers pick at twenty one.

713
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, there might be two or three when Day one ends. Yeah,

714
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 3: you know that. Oh he's still on our list, you know, yeah, that.

715
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:13,320
Speaker 2: Was I mean two years ago, that was Joe, that

716
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 2: was Order. Right.

717
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 3: That's the way it works, right, I mean that's why. Yeah.

718
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 3: I mean there's gonna be a lot of names. When

719
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 3: you're not in the quarterback market, there's they go like

720
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 3: crazy er, you know yeah, or if you're not going

721
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 3: to take a running back, they're going to go you

722
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 3: know yeah.

723
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 2: So anyways, let's get to another break. We'll talk more

724
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 2: about this. Order will get back. He is Matt Williamson.

725
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 2: I am Dale Lolly. You're listening to the Drive here

726
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,359
Speaker 2: on the Steelers Audio Network, Matt and I'll be back

727
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 2: with more right after this.

728
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Speaker 3: At least.

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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

730
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Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and

731
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Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back. I'm Dale LOLLI he is the Matt Williamson.

733
00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 2: We're putting together our list of twenty one players we

734
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 2: think or at least we would take if Yeah, we're

735
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 2: think twenty first in order for the Pittsburgh Steelers, and

736
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 2: we got our twenty one here now. It's Cam Woard,

737
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 2: Travis Hunter, Mason Graham Abdull Carter. I'm good with that.

738
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 2: I'm good five Walter Nolan.

739
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 3: I think the top four kind of there's they're their

740
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 3: own beat, you know.

741
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:22,680
Speaker 2: Will Johnson at six. I don't have a problem with seven.

742
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,919
Speaker 2: Ashton genty. We could argue whether he should be higher

743
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 2: or lower.

744
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, all right, he's a running back.

745
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 2: Kenneth Grant at eight, Okay, Will Campbell at nine, you're hesitating.

746
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 2: I'm just thinking, will we take Tyler Warren or will

747
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:40,320
Speaker 2: we take Will Campbell?

748
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,760
Speaker 3: Oh you're trying, Yeah a lot Warren. Would you definitely

749
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 3: take Grant over Campbell? Yes, Grant can do one thing

750
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:52,240
Speaker 3: for you, but it's a need, it's a lot of things.

751
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 2: And he might he might do. He might be a

752
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 2: situational pass rusher for you.

753
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 3: He has that kind of I think he's not just

754
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 3: a run those you had, you know, ten snaps, a

755
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 3: game guy. All right, that's fine. Warren versus Johnson. I

756
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 3: want Johnson, okay, just because I think he could play

757
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 3: five spots for you. Now, weren't we're camb you mean

758
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 3: camp I'm sorry, yeah, yeah, okay, Warren versus Tet McMillan,

759
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 3: I'm fine with Warren there.

760
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 2: I'd rather have Warren and Tet McMillan. Would you rather

761
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 2: have war Tet McMillan or Derek Harmon? That was the

762
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 2: I don't love either. I mean I like mcmow. I

763
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 2: like McMillan better than Harmon. Okay, yeah, I'm worried Harmon's

764
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 2: a little high. We have Harmon at twelve, Calvin Banks

765
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 2: at thirteen.

766
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 3: I haven't done a ton of work on the old lineman,

767
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 3: to be very because there's no need for what we do.

768
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 3: You know, he had a down year. I think i'd

769
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 3: rather McMillan.

770
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 2: We have Banks at thirteen. We have Josh Simmons at fourteen.

771
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 3: I love pure tackles, like I might rather Simmons and Banks,

772
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 3: but that's really splitting hairs. I mean, I don't really care.

773
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 2: We have Johda Barron right after those guys at fifteen.

774
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 3: S he too low? Should he be ahead of those

775
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 3: two O linemen? Well?

776
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 2: Again, I think you can get guys who do what

777
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 2: he does later in the draft. You're not going to

778
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 2: get tackles. Tackles, you don't meet them, but you take

779
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 2: that talent.

780
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, yep, Okay, who's after Baron? Matthew Golden Fine out

781
00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 3: of Baron over his teammate.

782
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 2: Tyler Williams at seventeen.

783
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 3: Okay.

784
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 2: Then we have Luther Burton Ecuba at eighteen and nineteen,

785
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 2: Darius Alexander at twenty armand Membo at twenty one.

786
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 3: Okay, different question for you. The genie comes out of

787
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 3: the bottle okay and says, I will trade you any

788
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,560
Speaker 3: what players would you take twenty one four or today?

789
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:03,800
Speaker 3: Where's your cutoff on that? I bet it's a pretty

790
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 3: low number. I'm not sure i'd even do Grant.

791
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 2: I think I would.

792
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:12,359
Speaker 3: I would take he would just be done.

793
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:14,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, take Nat unseen.

794
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 3: Yeah right, but if you any might run a five

795
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:19,240
Speaker 3: to five and in a week from now or whatever,

796
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:23,319
Speaker 3: he's not going to Yeah, he's a close one for me.

797
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 3: I wouldn't do it for like the second two oh Linemen. No,

798
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 3: I would do it for Warren. Yeah, I mean if

799
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 3: I depending on what else was there. I know he's

800
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 3: not gonna make it, so you know you're getting value

801
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 3: out of the trade, you know, twenty one for Warren.

802
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 2: I mean, I think he's just a good football. I

803
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:48,280
Speaker 2: think he's a top ten player in this draft.

804
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 3: I do too, and I think he may even be higher. Yeah,

805
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 3: when you start doing exercises like this, and maybe we're

806
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 3: leaving some edge guys that are to have a higher

807
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 3: grade on. Okay, so who's your cutoff? Would you do

808
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:00,720
Speaker 3: it for gen Tea for sure?

809
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 2: Yeah?

810
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,800
Speaker 3: You wouldn't do it for McMillan. I would.

811
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:07,840
Speaker 2: No, I would not for McMillan.

812
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:12,399
Speaker 3: Who was earlier than McMillan on us on our list.

813
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 2: That was word Hunter, Graham, Carter Nolan, Will Johnson, Ashton Genty,

814
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:23,839
Speaker 2: Kenneth Grant, Will Campbell, Tyler Warren. I think I say

815
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:30,319
Speaker 2: yes to all those. I assume Grant, it's just I'll

816
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 2: give you Teed McMillan. I mean, there's definite talent there,

817
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 2: and he is.

818
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 3: And I'll be honest, studied him as intently as some

819
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 3: of these other guys too. Maybe I'll sour on him,

820
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 3: but from what I've seen, I'm pretty impressed.

821
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 2: Basically. After that, then then it's going to be.

822
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:52,320
Speaker 3: A what you do for Baron? I think I'm going fish.

823
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:54,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to see what else was there?

824
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 3: Right, That doesn't mean I wouldn't ever take, but I

825
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:00,879
Speaker 3: want to see what ither all the dice and see

826
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 3: how it goes as opposed to today, I'm gonna swap

827
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 3: that pick for him, right, I might sign a corner

828
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:10,319
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, you know, Okay, I think we've got

829
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:10,840
Speaker 3: a feel for it.

830
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 2: I think I think that's where I'm at with this.

831
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 2: I just I don't love the receiver class at the

832
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 2: top the cornerbacks. That's might change.

833
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:24,399
Speaker 3: Say if Benjamin or Ravel run a four to ford

834
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 3: their pro day. Yeah, I don't think either's gonna work

835
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:28,799
Speaker 3: out next week they're gonna be on that, but we.

836
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 2: May get some news that they're ahead of schedule with

837
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 2: their Yeah yeah, yeah, but that might change, and now

838
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 2: they might get work their way unto the list.

839
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 3: That's going to say is who else could add to

840
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 3: the list?

841
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 2: Six six with two cornerbacks with talent don't grow on trees.

842
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 3: And maybe the corners in general are the ones that

843
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 3: could invade that list? We cut to what if I

844
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 3: don't think Porter is a first round pick. I don't

845
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:50,839
Speaker 3: think it's either, you know, I mean I could see

846
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:54,439
Speaker 3: him being heavily in the second round consideration. I bet

847
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:56,839
Speaker 3: there's a d lineman that could blow up that we're

848
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:57,479
Speaker 3: not thinking about.

849
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 2: Could be Darius Alexander. Yeah, yeah, I mean he may

850
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 2: have a monster combine.

851
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 3: You're like, oh, I know they're expecting him to.

852
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, and in that situation, then we're looking at a

853
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 2: little different situation here. But yeah, maybe it's Tyler Williams.

854
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 2: Maybe Tyler Williams looks great moving around and.

855
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:18,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, his agility stuff's great. And I'll be honest, I'll

856
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 3: leave the door open for Sanders. Yeah, you know, I

857
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 3: mean it's quarterback. It's a quarterback right right. If he's

858
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 3: super impressive from what I see from this point on,

859
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,960
Speaker 3: he could get my top twenty one. Yeah, you know, yeah,

860
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 3: I don't think another running back.

861
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 2: Could could another quarterback. Yeah, I don't know that. I'm

862
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 2: not taking another I can't. I mean it could twenty one.

863
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 3: I'm not swapping twenty one for Shock right this minute,

864
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:49,359
Speaker 3: but I think I trade my second round pick for Shock.

865
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 3: I know, I trade my third round pick for Shock

866
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 3: right now. I mean I would definitely trade my third

867
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:56,880
Speaker 3: round pick for Shock, and I think i'd do my

868
00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 3: second I don't know if I'm there yet. Yeah, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I love I like him. It comes out next week

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Speaker 3: that he has bad knees, which could be I mean,

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Speaker 3: he had a lot of injury stuff. Yeah, I wish

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Speaker 3: I knew that, I don't, you know.

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Speaker 2: And you know some of the previous tape from his

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Speaker 2: other stops wasn't.

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Speaker 3: Great, no question, no question.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's talent, there's arm talent. You watch some of

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Speaker 2: the things, you're like.

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Speaker 3: Wow, Yeah, I mean I think he's like built like

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Speaker 3: Ben Yeah, I mean I like that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, you know. Anyways, let's get to a

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Speaker 2: break that's a full hour of just breaking down our

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Speaker 2: top twenty one players in his draft.

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Speaker 3: And we might have to do that like every two

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Speaker 3: weeks or every you know, do it again after the combat.

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Speaker 2: We'll definitely have to do it again final. Yeah, so

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Speaker 2: maybe after we get through the pro days and get

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Speaker 2: to see that information as well.

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Speaker 3: H we'll do a final one for sure.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, absolutely draft right, we always do. But he

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Speaker 2: is Matt Williamson. I am Dale, Lolly. You're listening to

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Speaker 2: the Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network on Steelers

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Speaker 2: will be back with our number two right after this