Speaker 1: Well, well, well lucky here. There's no rest for the
Speaker 1: weary as we are already we have our first big
Speaker 1: trade of the offseason as teams are getting ready for
Speaker 1: the draft, free agency, and what might end up being
Speaker 1: a flurry of trades this summer.
Speaker 2: A blizzard.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: Actually yeah, I likes also a snow reference. I just
Speaker 2: think you wanted to let people know I'm here too. Okay,
Speaker 2: good to know we're gonna get into the beial to
Speaker 2: the Sun's deal.
Speaker 1: Hey that rhymes? What could be next for CP three
Speaker 1: and plenty more with the lead writer for Phoenix Sports
Speaker 1: Gerald Borge on today's episode. I'm Miles Gray.
Speaker 2: And I'm Jack O'Brien and this is bos. I go
Speaker 2: hiw you go love we love it?
Speaker 1: There you going to be.
Speaker 2: Driving Spinny Curry a three quarter.
Speaker 1: Scott Curry from down Tell again.
Speaker 3: Be honest with the tel.
Speaker 1: That was actually good. That was a good harmonic intro.
Speaker 1: I think did that time?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I agree, Gerald, What do you think, Trail Borge from
Speaker 1: the Phoenix Sports Please?
Speaker 3: I think you guys have great chemistry. It's clear you
Speaker 3: spent more than one training camp together. So I love it.
Speaker 2: Oh, thank you, thanks man.
Speaker 1: Yeah. They threw us together at the last minute, man,
Speaker 1: and we're just figuring it out, just figuring. I didn't
Speaker 1: I just met this ten minutes ago.
Speaker 2: They were actually tanking. It was like Utah this season
Speaker 2: they were tanking, and then we just had chemistry.
Speaker 1: We figured it out. Yeah, they called Jack the marketing
Speaker 1: of podcasting.
Speaker 3: See, I was gonna say, you guys are like the
Speaker 3: KD and the sons of podcasting just kind of threw
Speaker 3: them together and they had to come together at the
Speaker 3: right time.
Speaker 1: Team. Wait, who's booking? Who's which one? Do you want
Speaker 1: to be? Jack?
Speaker 2: I think I'm the old head, right, I've got on hair.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, yeah, well actually with my my mill pattern baldness,
Speaker 1: maybe I would be better off being Kevin.
Speaker 2: Durant all right, but it want to be KD.
Speaker 1: I Hey, look, I love anyone who's has a name
Speaker 1: referencing a big spider in the form of Durantula. That
Speaker 1: was a thing that always got me pulled in.
Speaker 2: It's not like that anyways. Gerald exciting times. Phoenix I
Speaker 2: feel like is dedicated to be the most exciting team
Speaker 2: off the court, just in terms of they're keeping people
Speaker 2: who host podcasts about the NBA awake to keeping our
Speaker 2: head on a swivel. This must be exciting times for you.
Speaker 3: It is. It's exciting. It's been exciting, you know. Over
Speaker 3: the last year. It's been everything from historic playoff flameout,
Speaker 3: Kevin Durant rumors to new owner to j Crowder sitting
Speaker 3: out like there's there's no shortage of stories out here.
Speaker 3: But it can be fun. And then there's sometimes where
Speaker 3: you're just trying to enjoy your weekend and then boom,
Speaker 3: Bradley Beal's falling into your lap. So here we are
Speaker 3: about that all week. But it's it's been a lot
Speaker 3: of fun. You can tell ish Bill is going to
Speaker 3: be aggressive and this team is going all in despite
Speaker 3: what the new CBA and the NBA rules are trying
Speaker 3: to prohibit moving forward. So kind of a fun time
Speaker 3: to be a sun Span and also a high pressure,
Speaker 3: stressful one as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're they're kind of running back the experiment in Brooklyn,
Speaker 2: you know, when it was just three ball dominant scores
Speaker 2: around the perimeter. But in this case, you know, I
Speaker 2: think Booker might be the best score that Katie's ever
Speaker 2: played with, and Beal, I think it's going to be
Speaker 2: more reliable than uh, you know hard, this is a
Speaker 2: tough this is a tough contest to win, but more
Speaker 2: reliable than Harden and Kyrie were with the Nets. So
Speaker 2: it's going to be interesting.
Speaker 1: Is this the perfect situation in terms of like this
Speaker 1: deal right, because in the beginning, it's kind of like,
Speaker 1: well CP three is gonna get waived and now that's
Speaker 1: not happening. You're getting Beal and Ayton it was nowhere
Speaker 1: near that. So is this how are you, like, how
Speaker 1: does this all shake out for you in the end,
Speaker 1: because we're asking like, well, what happens with Ayton? Where
Speaker 1: are we headed with all this?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good question, And honestly, it feels like
Speaker 3: there there was a lot of people that were kind
Speaker 3: of overthinking this trade in terms of like, how does
Speaker 3: Beal fit with Bookers since they play the same position,
Speaker 3: how are you going to build out the rest of
Speaker 3: your roster when you have so much because you know,
Speaker 3: Bill makes a lot of money on that contract he's got,
Speaker 3: and the new CBA rules are going to penalize teams
Speaker 3: that go too far into the luxury tax take away
Speaker 3: some of their team building stuff. So there's a lot
Speaker 3: of questions. But I feel like at the end of
Speaker 3: the day, you look at the trade and they traded
Speaker 3: Chris Paul, who they were either going to wave or
Speaker 3: trade elsewhere, and Landry Shammitt for Bradley freaking deal, Like
Speaker 3: you weren't going to do better than that in free agency.
Speaker 3: You probably weren't going to realistically pull off a trade
Speaker 3: for somebody better than him, and you kept Da who
Speaker 3: you can now either keep under Frank Vogel and hope
Speaker 3: that he kind of restores his value or trade elsewhere
Speaker 3: for more depth pieces. Like it's about as good as
Speaker 3: you can ask. So a lot of people are saying like, oh,
Speaker 3: they you know, they're going in all in on the
Speaker 3: super team. They're too top heavy all this stuff, But
Speaker 3: I would ask, like, what could they have done this
Speaker 3: offseason that would have been better? If you look at
Speaker 3: the free agency pool, like it's not that great and
Speaker 3: it gives you three guys who can score from anywhere
Speaker 3: on the floor, Like obviously they're all perimeter oriented guys,
Speaker 3: but they all shoot efficiently when they do get to
Speaker 3: the basket. They're all good catch and shoot guys. They're
Speaker 3: all guys that can create off dribble. So if you
Speaker 3: surround them with defensive players with three point shooters, I
Speaker 3: think you're gonna be okay. And Book is enough of
Speaker 3: a playmaker now to be able to maybe not need
Speaker 3: a traditional point guard like you're used to having Chris Paul.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I bring up the Brooklyn thing not as
Speaker 2: like to throw water on this, because when Brooklyn was
Speaker 2: at their peak and everybody was playing, they were incredible,
Speaker 2: like they were dominating, like even with like two and
Speaker 2: a half of the players, you know, playing playing at
Speaker 2: full steam. So I don't know, it's very exciting from
Speaker 2: an NBA fan standpoint to like see another kind of
Speaker 2: offense of firepower, just extravaganzo. So I'm excited.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh what about I mean gotta ask you look
Speaker 1: at Katie Beal, the number of games they've been playing
Speaker 1: the last couple of seasons. Is that is that? I mean?
Speaker 1: Where does that? Does that strike fear into the hearts
Speaker 1: of Suns fans or just enough to confidence that you know,
Speaker 1: maybe maybe this this will all kind of coalesce and
Speaker 1: come together.
Speaker 3: I think it has to. I think you look at
Speaker 3: Katie's recent injury history, even before the last couple of
Speaker 3: years with the Nets, it wasn't great. Obviously, he's been
Speaker 3: fantastic when he's been on the court, but you need
Speaker 3: him to stay healthy, and you need him to shoot
Speaker 3: better than he did in the playoffs. Let's be honest,
Speaker 3: the Nugget series was not his finest series. And with bal, I,
Speaker 3: you know, you look at the number of games miss
Speaker 3: it's concerning. I do think they're a little bit misleading,
Speaker 3: just because, like this past season, he was basically shut
Speaker 3: down because the Wizards were bad. In the last couple
Speaker 3: of years, some of the games that he missed were
Speaker 3: due to COVID more than like actual injury, So I
Speaker 3: think that's a little bit encouraging. But yeah, you're right,
Speaker 3: like with Book, with KD, with Beal, even with DA
Speaker 3: to a certain extent, if he's still here, the injury
Speaker 3: thing looms large because if you lose any one of
Speaker 3: those guys, it's not like you have the depth of
Speaker 3: a Nuggets team or a Miami Heat squad to kind
Speaker 3: of overcome that. So you need all three of your
Speaker 3: stars to be healthy and all four. If DA is
Speaker 3: still on the team.
Speaker 2: Do you have a wish list of like, Okay, this
Speaker 2: would be the two players I'd want to turn DA into.
Speaker 2: If if there was a trade to happen there.
Speaker 3: So it's funny you asked that because I literally today
Speaker 3: wrote an article with forty trade options beyondre because I'm
Speaker 3: sorry forty one because I'm a bit of a psycho.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say you were you were lagging there, man, Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: Back in forty one. We could accept that. But there
Speaker 3: are a couple we've heard from a source that the
Speaker 3: mask that is standing offer for DA since the end
Speaker 3: of the season, which was Josh Green, Tim Hardaway Junior
Speaker 3: and the number ten pick that doesn't add up financially.
Speaker 3: You need to throw in Maxi Kleiba. I'm not crazy
Speaker 3: about that deal. I'm not surprised that Suns haven't taken it,
Speaker 3: but I also do think the Magic are a team
Speaker 3: that's that we've heard is in play, you know, a
Speaker 3: deal surrounding Wendell Carter Junior, maybe Bull Bull, maybe Jonathan Isaac,
Speaker 3: something like that. The Sun's pushed back and wanted a guard.
Speaker 3: But that was before the Bradley Beal trades. So you know,
Speaker 3: Carter is honestly, he might be a better player than
Speaker 3: DA at this point, and he makes a fraction of
Speaker 3: what DA does, So something like that would probably work.
Speaker 3: I think if you're the Suns, I also look at
Speaker 3: the Hawks or the Pacers as teams that you might
Speaker 3: trade with. If you get Miles Turner back, who arguably
Speaker 3: had a better season. If you get Clint Capella back,
Speaker 3: who's a really good rim protector and would fit in
Speaker 3: perfectly with Vogel likes to do. I think you're trying
Speaker 3: to target a center who can do like eighty percent
Speaker 3: of what DA does for maybe half or two thirds
Speaker 3: of the price.
Speaker 1: I got one listener question because people were like, we
Speaker 1: we got experts on the Suns coming in, but Aaron
Speaker 1: McCarthy was asking just a couple questions because I want
Speaker 1: to get the fan questions in. First off is like
Speaker 1: are we looking at full time point Book? And if
Speaker 1: you got to the question about is Eightton going to
Speaker 1: stick around? And what kind of people would you flip
Speaker 1: them for? And also who else is going to Summer
Speaker 1: League and will they get to meet any more Suns
Speaker 1: players this year?
Speaker 3: Yeah, So to answer your questions, I do think we
Speaker 3: can expect to see a lot of point Book. I
Speaker 3: think if you look at his numbers in the playoffs
Speaker 3: without Chris Paul, who's averaging like seven or eight assists
Speaker 3: per game. He was still shooting lights out in that stretch. Like,
Speaker 3: They're pretty confident that even though it puts a little
Speaker 3: more tread on his tires and will wear him down,
Speaker 3: they have enough playmaking between Booker and Beale and Katie
Speaker 3: they can take turns bringing the ball up court, and
Speaker 3: they have enough scoring and passing there to make it
Speaker 3: work without a point guard. I do think in terms
Speaker 3: of DA I'd be surprised if he's still on the roster,
Speaker 3: just because thirty two and a half million is a
Speaker 3: lot to pay for what he provides at this point,
Speaker 3: Like I said, the Sons have been kind of queasy
Speaker 3: about giving him this max level money for years now,
Speaker 3: and I do think that they think if they can
Speaker 3: get like eighty percent of what he does for half
Speaker 3: the cost, they're going to pursue that option because they
Speaker 3: have been really good with their offense in getting centers
Speaker 3: open with their pick and roll stuff. And then in
Speaker 3: terms of what was the last question, oh, Summer League,
Speaker 3: I honestly have no idea. The only guy that was
Speaker 3: like on the roster last year that went to Summer
Speaker 3: League was ish Waynwright and now he's probably not going
Speaker 3: to go, so I think they have the fifty second
Speaker 3: pick in this year's draft. Still, that'll probably the only
Speaker 3: guy that might actually be on the roster who you'll
Speaker 3: probably see at Summer League. Maybe Jordan Goodwood now that
Speaker 3: he's coming back in the Beal trade, or like Isaiah Todd,
Speaker 3: those guys that the Wizard's kind of threw in there.
Speaker 3: You might see them. But outside of that, not a
Speaker 3: ton of excitement if your son's fan for summer League.
Speaker 2: Right now that CP three has been traded to the Wizards.
Speaker 2: I feel like what I'm hearing from fans, like people
Speaker 2: who have a team that they root for, they all
Speaker 2: seem to be like, man, I don't know for you guys,
Speaker 2: don't I don't see it fitting like I could see
Speaker 2: definitely see him for our team though. Like that, I
Speaker 2: definitely like it feels like everybody wants wants a piece
Speaker 2: of CP three next season for whatever reason. Who do
Speaker 2: you think makes the most sense? Where do you see
Speaker 2: him landing.
Speaker 3: I'd be surprised if it's not the Clippers. At this point,
Speaker 3: I thought if someone wave him that they could probably
Speaker 3: bring him back because he's still a good player. He's
Speaker 3: not washed. He's nowhere near the All NBA player he
Speaker 3: was like the last two years before this season, but
Speaker 3: he still shot a really good percentage from three. He
Speaker 3: kind of evolved as more of a catch and shoot
Speaker 3: guy because he played off the ball more this season.
Speaker 3: And despite playing off the ball more this season, he
Speaker 3: was still top five and assists, So like he can
Speaker 3: still run an offense, he's a little bit more of
Speaker 3: a liability on defense now. He can still be a
Speaker 3: little bit two ball dominant for some teams. Like I'm
Speaker 3: curious how that would work if he does go to
Speaker 3: the Clippers when they've already got Paul George and Kawhi Leonard.
Speaker 3: But I think Paul can still contribute on a winning team.
Speaker 3: It's just that contract, like that thirty one mill that
Speaker 3: he's owed, it's a good thing, only like sixteen million
Speaker 3: of it is guaranteed, and I think that's probably why
Speaker 3: a lot of teams maybe wouldn't make a trade offer
Speaker 3: that they would if he was playing on like a
Speaker 3: twelve or a fourteen million dollar deal. The contract's probably
Speaker 3: the biggest and the fact that he can't stay healthy
Speaker 3: in the playoffs like that just that's out of his control.
Speaker 3: But it is something you have to factor in there too.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, it's tough to have a person you rely
Speaker 2: on who can't stay healthy in the playoffs.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, even like to your point when we're
Speaker 1: having the conversation, like, I don't know Cook, maybe I
Speaker 1: don't know if I can see him on the Sixes. I could
Speaker 1: see him on the Lakers, though, Yeah, I want the Lakers,
Speaker 1: and I'm saying that, and then also like I can
Speaker 1: also see him getting just terribly injured by November. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And that's just part of the back and forth. If
Speaker 1: he ended up at the Clipper, would they also be
Speaker 1: keeping Russell Westbrook in that in that scenario thing.
Speaker 3: I've seen reports that say that they would be interested
Speaker 3: in keeping the two of them together. And you know,
Speaker 3: Chris Paul has a lot of respect for us, so
Speaker 3: as much as they've had their on court battles and
Speaker 3: you know, scuff ups or whatever, they do have a
Speaker 3: lot of respect for each other, especially after that last
Speaker 3: playoff series. I don't know how that would work because
Speaker 3: I feel like Russ played really well in that role
Speaker 3: that they had him in and Chris is not going
Speaker 3: to be coming off the bench. So are you starting
Speaker 3: those two together. I don't know how that looks, right,
Speaker 3: but yeah, I think they're they're at least considering that idea.
Speaker 2: Are we thinking anybody's going to take a look at
Speaker 2: what Miami did and just really like shut people down
Speaker 2: for not shut him down? But like people just don't
Speaker 2: play as much of the regular season and just like
Speaker 2: everything is focused on peaking in the playoffs.
Speaker 3: Like I mean, I think we've been trending that way
Speaker 3: for a while, but I do think like teams they
Speaker 3: might have to look themselves in the mirror and be honest, like,
Speaker 3: do we have an Eric'spolstro, we have a Jimmy Butler?
Speaker 3: I don't know, have those things that will just kind
Speaker 3: of peak at the right time. And like, even if
Speaker 3: they do kind of take their foot off the gas
Speaker 3: during the regular season, the shooting that they had during
Speaker 3: the playoffs was like totally not who they were all
Speaker 3: season long, right, And I don't know how you can
Speaker 3: just kind of like turn that on after months. I
Speaker 3: think it was one of the most insane, like hottest
Speaker 3: shooting performances overachieving performances I've seen from a team in
Speaker 3: a while. So I think that factors in. But I
Speaker 3: do think teams are a lot more like March. Basketball
Speaker 3: doesn't mean as much anymore because there's just so many
Speaker 3: fluky situations going on. It matters as soon as mid
Speaker 3: April comes around and we can flip that switch.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you just got to start trying to make them
Speaker 2: in the postseason. Yeah, I think is the is the
Speaker 2: lesson from the heat. They really seem to just be
Speaker 2: really focused on making their shots.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jimmy Butler just looked in the mirror and said,
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm sorry, making more shots.
Speaker 3: He needed to do that in the finals too. If
Speaker 3: he'd done that might have carried.
Speaker 1: But he took the mirrors out of his hotel room.
Speaker 3: That was a problem.
Speaker 1: Oh, no, way to pump them.
Speaker 2: Also heard Celtics fans talking about how CP three makes
Speaker 2: sense there. I've heard yeah, every everybody, everyone just like yeah,
Speaker 2: come on, yeah, come on, we'll get a shot. We'll
Speaker 2: give him a run.
Speaker 1: Absolutely.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I do feel like he's not this sort of person
Speaker 2: who's just going to take time off and come in
Speaker 2: and be a solid sixth man in the playoffs.
Speaker 3: Right. Yeah, That's that's one thing The Sun's had to
Speaker 3: fight him on for quite a bit. Like trying to
Speaker 3: get him to take rest, and he just is not
Speaker 3: the guy that'll do that. So I have a hard
Speaker 3: time seeing it elsewhere unless he's threatened with like a
Speaker 3: career ending injury or something like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because we're saying like it would have to take
Speaker 1: a serious change of his like drive and sense of
Speaker 1: character for him to suddenly be like, you know what,
Speaker 1: I hear what you're saying about my body and like
Speaker 1: what my limits are and I'm going to listen to you.
Speaker 1: And you know that is a good idea that I
Speaker 1: come up with. It's like, that's that's not who he is.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And he wrote about it in that new book
Speaker 3: that he's been promoting recently. Like his grandfather's influence, he
Speaker 3: grew up the hardest worker since he was a kid
Speaker 3: at his grandfather's gas station. Like that's just embedded in
Speaker 3: his DNA, And especially now that he's older, he's always
Speaker 3: taken the approach of like I'm blessed to be here,
Speaker 3: and I'm going to continue to be the hardest working
Speaker 3: guy in the gym because I don't know how much
Speaker 3: longer I've got. Ironically, that's the kind of mentality that
Speaker 3: during the regular season might come back to hurt him
Speaker 3: come playoff time when his body just gives out on him.
Speaker 2: Right right, All right, let's take a quick break. We'll
Speaker 2: come back. We'll talk about some other off court rumors.
Speaker 2: Maneuvering that's happening. We'll be right back, and we're back.
Speaker 2: And a lot of smoke around Dame, as there tends
Speaker 2: to be in the off seasons. People are like, just
Speaker 2: get this man to a contender. We want to see it.
Speaker 2: But the Blazers are reportedly still looking to add talent
Speaker 2: to put around Dame with the you know, trading the
Speaker 2: third pick in the draft away. Chris Mannix mentioned the
Speaker 2: Raptors as a potential trade suitter with either Pascal Siakam
Speaker 2: or og Anobi in the discussion if the third pick
Speaker 2: is actually in play.
Speaker 1: But that seems to be contentious, right like.
Speaker 2: That, Oh sure, yeah, these are these are all rumors.
Speaker 1: Oh no, but not in the sense of like because
Speaker 1: at one it's like I feel like it's back and forth.
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, man, the third pick is in play,
Speaker 1: and then it's like just talk to Dame's camp apps
Speaker 1: away or I don't know what they're talking about, and
Speaker 1: you don't know, like are they going to keep it,
Speaker 1: it's going away. But yeah, I think it's wild, dude
Speaker 1: to see like how there's interest in Bam out of
Speaker 1: Bio from the Blazers, but then the heater like, yeah,
Speaker 1: but we would we would take Dame and they're like, no,
Speaker 1: but we would like to pair them together here in
Speaker 1: Bland And you're like, well, I'm huh, who's talking to
Speaker 1: who right now?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it feels like here's what I think has happening.
Speaker 3: I think Dame is putting additional pressure on the Blazers
Speaker 3: to do something with that third pick because he knows
Speaker 3: that his time as a top level star in this
Speaker 3: league is not guaranteed forever. He's been tired of playing
Speaker 3: on losing teams for quite a while now, and the
Speaker 3: Blazers are saying, yeah, we're definitely looking at moving this
Speaker 3: third pick for this guy, this guy, this guy, and
Speaker 3: if they can't make any of those things happen, they're
Speaker 3: going to be like, well, man, we tried, but at
Speaker 3: least we got like Scootins Brandon Miller like yeah, we
Speaker 3: did everything that we could, and I just don't feel
Speaker 3: like maybe this is the final turning point where Dame
Speaker 3: is finally like Okay, I don't want to be here anymore.
Speaker 3: But until he does that, the Blazers are just going
Speaker 3: to continue to use his loyalty to their advantage. And
Speaker 3: I just don't know how anybody believes in that front
Speaker 3: office that they can put a winner around him before
Speaker 3: his time there is done. Like, I respect Dame the
Speaker 3: crap out of him for his loyalty there, but man,
Speaker 3: every comment it feels like he's saying like, yeah, I
Speaker 3: want to win, I want talent around. Please put talent
Speaker 3: around me, and they just don't do it.
Speaker 1: Do whatever you have to. Yeah, yeah, more on that later, Dame,
Speaker 1: but more on that later.
Speaker 2: Well that guy anyways, he's great.
Speaker 1: Give it up for Dame.
Speaker 2: We love him, don't we feel?
Speaker 1: Young scrap.
Speaker 2: Kuzma declined the final year option on his deal and
Speaker 2: will become an unrestricted free agent. And he's coming off
Speaker 2: a year where I think I probably wasn't as aware
Speaker 2: as I should have been of like what he was doing.
Speaker 2: But he averaged twenty one points over seven boards, almost
Speaker 2: four assists on right around forty five percent from the floor,
Speaker 2: really like in the conversation for All Star this season,
Speaker 2: and it'll be interesting to see where he ends up.
Speaker 2: I know, I know the Lakers are mentioned in this
Speaker 2: analysis by Jabbari, so't I don't know if that's he's like, So,
Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe he comes comes back home.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Is he gonna come for a minimum or is
Speaker 1: it that he sees deal leave and he's like that's
Speaker 1: a max slot open? Yeah, you know, probably the latter.
Speaker 3: It's a good question because like he's he that thirteen
Speaker 3: million dollar player option is more than what the mid
Speaker 3: level is worth this year. So it have to be
Speaker 3: a team that could offer more than the mid level
Speaker 3: or like additional years and he really just wants to
Speaker 3: get out of DC. I don't know, but that he's
Speaker 3: set himself up nicely for a payday with the season
Speaker 3: he had for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, do we see him in like a I
Speaker 1: feel like when we were just talking off micro like
Speaker 1: it has to be like a bigger market team, Like
Speaker 1: that's where it feels. I feel like the most cups
Speaker 1: like TI style because you can't you can't walk into
Speaker 1: the arena with like Brooklyn. Yeah, you can't wear like
Speaker 1: eight foot knit with sweater sleeves and be like walking
Speaker 1: into like Utah or something like that.
Speaker 3: Not Nope, Yeah, Nope, absolutely not.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I guess that leaves it to a handful
Speaker 1: of places in that sense, and that that is absolute,
Speaker 1: rock solid analysis from us just.
Speaker 2: Judging by his fits. Sleep Yeah, yeah, yeah, Sleep he's
Speaker 2: in Law or maybe Miami for sure, he's got real
Speaker 2: Miami vibes. James Hard Miami sweeps. James Harden is now
Speaker 2: being rumored to be headed back to Philly. Earlier this month,
Speaker 2: it was Houston. I don't know, he'll be thirty four
Speaker 2: next season. I think I think the thing that makes
Speaker 2: the most sense to me is a Philly fan is like,
Speaker 2: just really big payday for the next two seasons if
Speaker 2: that's something that they can pull off. Because he had
Speaker 2: a great season last season and you know, obviously inconsistent
Speaker 2: in the playoffs, but some of his best playoff performances,
Speaker 2: if not his best playoff performances of all time. So
Speaker 2: you're hoping you can kind of get something similar next season,
Speaker 2: get a better healthier m beat postseason, and with additional coaching.
Speaker 2: You I don't know, this is me tailing off.
Speaker 1: Even though you know James Hard, I guess he's rumored
Speaker 1: to come back to Philly.
Speaker 2: You're like, that's your.
Speaker 1: Team I guess, yeah, tough man.
Speaker 3: When you're disassociating talking about your own team, you know,
Speaker 3: it's not a great, great situation.
Speaker 2: If they throw like a four year deal at him,
Speaker 2: that would be I think that would be hard.
Speaker 3: That would be and I feel like you probably have
Speaker 3: to try and explore what you can get in a
Speaker 3: sign and trade. I just don't know what. Like in Houston,
Speaker 3: I don't know what you're getting from them that's really
Speaker 3: helping you with Embiid right now. So yeah, I think
Speaker 3: if you can to a two year deal because like
Speaker 3: you said, like we know the playoff inconsistency, that's just
Speaker 3: going to be a thing with Harden. You hope that
Speaker 3: you can put him next to Embiid and more talent
Speaker 3: and that makes up for it. Like the two games
Speaker 3: where he played great in the Celtics series, those were
Speaker 3: wins and then the rest of them were all losses.
Speaker 3: So it's one of those things where if you get
Speaker 3: two fantastic games out of Harden against a team like that,
Speaker 3: you hope that the rest of the talent can carry it.
Speaker 3: But I'm an ASU guy. I went to Asu, so
Speaker 3: I love Harden, so I will defend him or at
Speaker 3: least overlook his flaws to the death.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Well should we take one more break? Come
Speaker 2: back with the fastest segment in podcasting? What do you think?
Speaker 1: Oh? Man, I don't know, Man, I don't know that.
Speaker 1: I don't like the look at this guy. But I
Speaker 1: think it's time.
Speaker 2: All right, we'll be right back.
Speaker 1: And we're back.
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't like that. You do not want to
Speaker 2: hear that.
Speaker 1: You don't want to hear this, Gerald Borge, You have
Speaker 1: wandered into the fastest question and answer segment in all
Speaker 1: sports podcasting history. I would say for concepts to be
Speaker 1: conceived at a future date, we can say with confidence
Speaker 1: this is the fastest Q and A segment in all
Speaker 1: of NBA podcasting. That is on the iHeart.
Speaker 2: We're allowing for like a little plaque in the Hall
Speaker 2: of Fame, Uh, doesn't be big, doesn't need to impressed.
Speaker 1: And Matt Boosti's award, you know, like right next to
Speaker 1: the Larry O'Brian trophy. We'll talk. We'll talk with Adam
Speaker 1: when we're at NBA Con later on, but anyway, here
Speaker 1: we go. This is gonna be the rapid fire round
Speaker 1: a questioning. We're just gonna ask you a question. Gerald,
Speaker 1: you just don't even think, just respond. Let your subconscious
Speaker 1: react immediately. Don't give long winded answers because this is
Speaker 1: so fast. If it goes on too long, they will
Speaker 1: take away our title. So it's on you to keep
Speaker 1: this going. It's not on us, as most people would
Speaker 1: say as host, it's probably on you.
Speaker 2: No, we're lazy, Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna actually take
Speaker 2: a quick nap here, real quick.
Speaker 1: Yeah, good idea. Good me too, Actually, me too. Gerald,
Speaker 1: keep explaining the segment to the other people. All right,
Speaker 1: I'll go first, and you know what that means, Bryan,
Speaker 1: start the claw. Gerald. Is there a single NBA player
Speaker 1: you would take right now over the chance of taking
Speaker 1: Wemby with the first pick this summer? Anybody?
Speaker 3: Jokic?
Speaker 1: Wow?
Speaker 2: I was waiting for Jokic. Yeah, I think you're the
Speaker 2: first Jokic.
Speaker 1: But it makes sense to me.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Everybody would say Yannis, and then there was Yannis for
Speaker 1: a stretch, and then it was like, no, nobody, only Wenby,
Speaker 1: only Wemby. And now we've we've landed after the parade
Speaker 1: celebrations and we're like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: How much did his parade performance play into you pick
Speaker 2: it was back to for sure, it happened. Yeah, he
Speaker 2: just seemed like he was having a blast. And also
Speaker 2: it seemed like he had just consumed his first alcoholic
Speaker 2: beverage of all time. So that speaks well for you know,
Speaker 2: the sort of shape his focus that he's he's keeping on.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, clean liver, clean clean.
Speaker 2: All right, we're talking teams we want to cover in
Speaker 2: the off season. Obviously the Spurs. What's the team you're
Speaker 2: thinking is going to be interesting in the off season.
Speaker 2: We've got okay, see the Magic, the Suns, we just
Speaker 2: had a feeling about, you guys, the Rocket Portland. Who
Speaker 2: else are we missing who we should be keeping an
Speaker 2: eye on.
Speaker 3: Other than Stuns and Blazers. I'm definitely keeping my eye
Speaker 3: on the Pelicans because the whole Zion thing is pretty
Speaker 3: wild right now?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, dude, how real is that?
Speaker 2: Do we think they're actually looking at deals to move him?
Speaker 3: I don't know. I wasn't, I wasn't putting too much
Speaker 3: dock in it. But then like it feels like the
Speaker 3: commissioner put the call in to have that one Twitter
Speaker 3: account suspended that was just raging against him all yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: day long. So I don't know. I think there might
Speaker 3: be something to it, especially because he can't stay healthy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, him and LaMelo like that, that would be
Speaker 2: pretty interesting. That would be really fun. That would immediately
Speaker 2: make them a team.
Speaker 1: I will want to watch, Erald Gerald, Gerald, you have
Speaker 1: to cut Jack off. Man, it's just's he couldn't you
Speaker 1: just tell he started? He he hijacked the whole segment. Man,
Speaker 1: he's about to put this thing at risk. Okay, moving on, Jerald,
Speaker 1: you can place any former Sons Great on next year's roster.
Speaker 1: You can hop in the stargate because you can go
Speaker 1: anywhere and bring them right back with you. Which form
Speaker 1: or great are you adding to this mix?
Speaker 3: Charles Barkley? Oh, you need some rebounding, You need some size.
Speaker 3: You need a guy that's just gonna be physical and bruise.
Speaker 3: Sean Marion was my next answer, though, mm.
Speaker 2: Hm, why not both? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Well well Jack, The question was one yeah see now
Speaker 1: wait now are you sabotaging the segment? Man? No?
Speaker 2: No, no, okay, sorry, I just got I did fall asleep
Speaker 2: a little bit of it.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: Sorry, what are your top three basketball movies? Caeryl?
Speaker 3: Oh man, that's a tough one, Coach, Carter Space jam
Speaker 3: and white Man Can't Jump? White Man Can't Jump is
Speaker 3: number one?
Speaker 1: The new one?
Speaker 2: Jump the new one? Obviously we don't even Yeah, the
Speaker 2: new one, the remake?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I haven't seen. I guess the old one that
Speaker 1: everyone talked. I saw the new one. I really like
Speaker 1: that one.
Speaker 3: Oh, the original is a classic?
Speaker 1: Oh is it? I heard Rosie Perez is in that
Speaker 1: she is? Yeah? I like her work.
Speaker 3: What do you like?
Speaker 1: Her work as a flag girl?
Speaker 2: One of the great basketball performances by someone who has
Speaker 2: never picked up a basketball before. Filming started from Wesley Snipes.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, that's acting.
Speaker 2: That is real acting like just an amazing on camera.
Speaker 2: Just yea technician with his body and yeah, but sometimes
Speaker 2: the dribble is over his head.
Speaker 1: But he's little too hard. Yeah, but look he's evading
Speaker 1: those defenders like he evased the I R s. You
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Okay, next question, Gerald Lolo's fried
Speaker 1: Chicken popular in the Phoenix area. Wore Gusses, which is
Speaker 1: new Man?
Speaker 3: You're gonna make me choose between two of my favorites. Okay,
Speaker 3: if you're going to the OG's Lo Loos downtown that location,
Speaker 3: that one's still the best. But the new ones that
Speaker 3: they put in Scottsdale not as good. So I've got
Speaker 3: to go guss.
Speaker 1: Oh so better. There's a better variety of Gusses than
Speaker 1: there are lolos. So you're saying, okay, okay, okay, good
Speaker 1: to know, good to know.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 2: We were looking at betting favorites to land notable players
Speaker 2: in the off season. It's like this, these are the
Speaker 2: top teams expected to land these players if they don't
Speaker 2: stay with their current team. I'm just gonna read through.
Speaker 2: You're gonna tell me the one that you think is
Speaker 2: most likely to happen. Lebron James, Mavericks, Damian Lillard Heat,
Speaker 2: James Harden Rockets, Kyrie Lakers, Westbrook the Knicks, Draymond the
Speaker 2: Jazz for some reason, Trey Young the Lakers, Fred Van
Speaker 2: Vliet the Suns. This might be outdated. Chris Middleton the Thunder,
Speaker 2: Lopez the Rockets, Dylan Brooks the Heat, I like that one,
Speaker 2: or DeAndre Ayton the Mavericks. Which of those you like?
Speaker 3: And I think, just by default, I'm going to go
Speaker 3: hard into the Rockets. I feel like that one might
Speaker 3: have some legitimate heat to it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, those you think he's gonna hear this
Speaker 2: podcast and be disappointed my lack of enthusiasm for him
Speaker 2: coming back to the Sixers.
Speaker 3: I think that's exactly what it is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, wait, but you didn't mention Dylan Brooks of the Heat.
Speaker 3: I mean, I honestly have no idea where Dylan Brooks
Speaker 3: is gonna sign and how much he's gonna sign for it,
Speaker 3: because it feels like his value is rock bottom. But
Speaker 3: he's also one of those guys that they're gonna be like,
Speaker 3: but he could work for us, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Right, right right, we can rebuild him, right, It's fine.
Speaker 1: Oh and then the final question, this is the most
Speaker 1: important one, Okay, Gerald, Jack or Miles.
Speaker 3: Jack or Miles. I'm gonna go Miles.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: It's been touching. Over the last couple of weeks. We've
Speaker 1: had some real diplomatic answers. Some people were saying, Jack,
Speaker 1: I need.
Speaker 2: That diplomatic answers. Some people are saying.
Speaker 1: Jack, no, I member that diplomatic goal was when people
Speaker 1: thread the needle and go both.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh both, man, I can't choose between my choice.
Speaker 3: I like you.
Speaker 1: Giving new definition to that. Oh man. Okay, Jerald, good
Speaker 1: to know, Thank you so much. I mean I really
Speaker 1: appreciate that from the bottom of mind.
Speaker 2: Wow, are you still picking him after he said good
Speaker 2: to know instead of like, thank you to know? That's
Speaker 2: like real dismissive.
Speaker 1: Blake myself with Molly Morrison when I pretended to be
Speaker 1: a Grizzlies fan. That was that was bad, remember that
Speaker 1: one that was desperate. I did it, I've done it.
Speaker 1: I've done some things. Gerald, I've not been proud of
Speaker 1: to get somebody to say my name. That's why I
Speaker 1: kept it neutral. And I'm glad you did the right thing.
Speaker 2: So bleas goodn't Know is like a little bit like, wow,
Speaker 2: you're really into me. Huh yeah, good to know, man,
Speaker 2: Thanks you cool. Wow, that's really nice. Oh my god,
Speaker 2: good to know.
Speaker 1: Gerald, board game man. Thank you so much for joining
Speaker 1: us on Miles and Jack Got Mad Boosties. Where can
Speaker 1: people find you? Follow you and read, you know, just
Speaker 1: just get just get behind the movie.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So, if you're interested in writing the DeAndre at
Speaker 3: and trades, like I mentioned, all my stuff is on
Speaker 3: gophn x dot com. You can follow me on Twitter
Speaker 3: at Geryl Borgae, or you can listen to our podcast
Speaker 3: five times a week talking all things sons wow e
Speaker 3: h and X Suns podcast. You can get it wherever
Speaker 3: you hit your podcasts or watch us on YouTube because
Speaker 3: we do live shows from our studio here, a beautiful studio.
Speaker 2: We do daily podcasts and that's too many podcasts, just
Speaker 2: a lot letting you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we were doing ten a week, I know, outside
Speaker 1: of this one at one point. Yeah, it was. It's
Speaker 1: wild to hear somebody else who does daily podcasting as
Speaker 1: people who also daily podcast and whoa sure man you do?
Speaker 2: Yeah, amazing. We do want to give a shout out
Speaker 2: to our boosti's listener of the week for the most
Speaker 2: recent show review. Uh just first of all, please rate
Speaker 2: and review I get called out, especially if you give
Speaker 2: us a glorious one like this one. Finally, a sports
Speaker 2: podcast for everyone. Been a fan of Jack since the
Speaker 2: Crack days and Miles since day one of TDZ. Great
Speaker 2: to have them both reignite my love for basketball. And
Speaker 2: that is Jannis onto Takupo. It is written in Greek,
Speaker 2: so I have to assume I don't speak Greek or
Speaker 2: know the characters, but I have to assume that this
Speaker 2: is Yannis and if we see a re emergence as
Speaker 2: Jannis being the top player in the league. You can
Speaker 2: thank Miles and Jack got Matt BOOSTI.
Speaker 1: I did a quick Greek translation and it's Cristo Dulu.
Speaker 2: Uh huh. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know if y'all are told you again, but
Speaker 1: I just put the Google glass on that and that's
Speaker 1: what it told me. It was, so shout out to you,
Speaker 1: and shout out to all our listeners. Please make sure
Speaker 1: you follow us on Twitter at Miles of Gray.
Speaker 2: I'm at Jack Underscore O'Brien.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and hashtag Matt Boosties for show links and updates.
Speaker 1: Gerald Boorga, thank you so much again for joining us
Speaker 1: on Miles and Jack on Matt Boosties. We will see
Speaker 1: you next time, or I guess you won't see you
Speaker 1: because this is a podcast, but we'll pretend to see
Speaker 1: each other next time. Okay, Purpole, look at you. You
Speaker 1: guys look great. Man. She's like the hottest one.