1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: Hey, thanks for listening to the Two Pros and a 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: Cup of Joe Podcast with LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, and 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: myself Jonas Knox. Make sure you catch us live weekdays 4 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: six to nine am Eastern Time three to six am 5 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 1: Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. 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Doom Doom, Doom, Doom, Doom doom doom. 13 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 2: They said, Hey, why were we at having no leftover? 14 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:08,279 Speaker 4: Cause nothing was mate? 15 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 5: No, alright, man go yeah. 16 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 1: Oh man, only on our show though, Oh man, he's 17 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: gonna feel like a bag of these when he wakes up. 18 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:34,839 Speaker 1: Two Pros and a Cup of Joe Fox Sports Radio, 19 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 1: LaVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with you here. You can hang 20 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 1: out with us on the iHeartRadio app. You can find 21 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: us on hundreds of affiliates all across the country and 22 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:44,320 Speaker 1: wherever you are, making us a part of your Thursday morning. 23 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 1: We appreciate it. We'll be taking you all the way 24 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: up until nine am Eastern time, six o'clock Pacific, till 25 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: the end of this hour. And we start this hour 26 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: looking back on what we started our one with, which 27 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: was Game three of the NBA Finals. We gave you 28 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 1: the stat eighty cent of the time in a one 29 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 1: to one series tie, the team that wins Game three 30 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: and the NBA Finals goes on to win the NBA title. 31 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: The odds would say otherwise, slightly under a three to 32 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: one favorite are the OKC thunder to still win the 33 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 1: NBA Finals despite being down two games to one. But 34 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: if you ask SGA, if you ask Shay Gilders Alexander, 35 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: it's very simple. We've got some things that we've got 36 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 1: to work on. They're beating us in some aspects of 37 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:32,079 Speaker 1: the game, and we just got to play a little 38 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:33,919 Speaker 1: bit different. In Game four, let's take a listen. 39 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,079 Speaker 6: They felt like they won all the fifty to fifty plays. 40 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 6: They executed on both both ends of the ball. When 41 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 6: you give those two things up, and no matter what quarter, 42 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 6: you're probably gonna lose the quarter, especially and then it 43 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 6: goes back to especially on the road in a hostile 44 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:52,079 Speaker 6: environment and crowds behind them. So yeah, we got to 45 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 6: take care of those things. If you want to come 46 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 6: on a game forward it does. 47 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 1: You know what I love about the Thunder They operate 48 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: and sound as if they've won an NBA title before, 49 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 1: and they haven't, because there is no there's no panic, 50 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:11,679 Speaker 1: there's no stress, there's no it's just eah, we listen, 51 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: we have some things we need. 52 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 4: To work on. That's it. 53 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:18,799 Speaker 1: Very measured, very calm, very calculated, not worried at all 54 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: eighty percent of the time. Okay, yeah, we just have 55 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: some things we need to work on. And you look 56 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 1: at back on their season, they didn't really get tested 57 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: a whole lot. The time they did get tested the 58 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: most was probably Denver a couple of rounds ago in 59 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: the NBA Playoffs, and even in that when they're potentially 60 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: on the ropes in a pivotal Game five at home 61 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: and they're losing late, they made enough plays, figured it 62 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: out and ultimately won that series in seven games. But 63 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: they don't strike me as a team that panics too 64 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: much when it comes to having their backs against the wall, 65 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 1: almost like they won a. 66 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 2: Title before they have it. 67 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 5: It's kind of interesting, So, you know, you're good enough 68 00:03:57,560 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 5: to win a gold medal. Talent is amazing, but you 69 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 5: just ain't never won one like they. I mean, they're good, 70 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 5: they're good. They they aren't panicking, and they do have, 71 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 5: you know, at least SGA's soundbites. He always sounds as 72 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 5: though he's he's been there before. And that's that's what 73 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 5: they tell you. The mark of a good a good ballplayer, 74 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:20,479 Speaker 5: somebody who always is striving and aspiring to be better, 75 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 5: is to, you know, always understand that you know you're 76 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 5: never as good as you thought you were, and you're 77 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:28,479 Speaker 5: never as bad as you thought you were, and act 78 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 5: like you've been there before, you know, And that's that's 79 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 5: I think it's a classy way of approaching things. I 80 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 5: think that SGA has uh has done that. And again, 81 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 5: I think it's hard to come up with a definitive 82 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 5: conclusion as to how this series will end. I think 83 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 5: last game, like the game before last night's game, you 84 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 5: would have said that, Okay, there's the OKAC team that 85 00:04:56,680 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 5: that we were expecting to see, and the series should 86 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:05,120 Speaker 5: take a turn for the worst for the Pacers. But 87 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:08,119 Speaker 5: then they get back home stealing one game in Oka, 88 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 5: see and you see a Pacers team last night where 89 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:15,559 Speaker 5: you'd say, this is a Pacers team that can match 90 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 5: the defense of OKAC and have enough talent to score 91 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 5: and keep up with OKC and scoring. It's matchup points. 92 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:29,280 Speaker 5: And in this this series, it's a it's a Stoles matchup, 93 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:34,359 Speaker 5: and they match they have similar styles. It's like two lefties, 94 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:37,359 Speaker 5: two South Pauls fighting. You get two South Pauls in 95 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 5: the ring. If they're technically sound, you might get hit clashing, 96 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 5: you know, and and that happens a lot when you 97 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 5: don't have, you know, a conventional versus a South Paul 98 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:48,599 Speaker 5: or whatever it may be. 99 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 4: It just it happens that way. 100 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 5: So to me, it's it's like looking at two teams 101 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 5: that fight with with the same type of style, and 102 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 5: and yet it has been Indiana who has proven to 103 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:05,359 Speaker 5: be able to take that style and be able to 104 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 5: execute it a high enough level to come away with 105 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 5: victories in the series. So, whether they've been there or not, 106 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:16,479 Speaker 5: whether the confidence is there or is waning, whatever it 107 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:20,280 Speaker 5: may be, you're still looking at two teams that probably 108 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:24,840 Speaker 5: are sitting there one saying that we can we're in 109 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 5: a very advantageous position and we can't let it get 110 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 5: away and the other one sitting there feeling is though, 111 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 5: we're in a good situation, not in the best of situations, 112 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 5: but we can improve our situation. We're only one game 113 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 5: away and you know, we get one, get one more 114 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 5: hit back home, and we should be good. 115 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 4: You know. 116 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 5: I don't know how that all plays out, but it 117 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 5: still seems as though that it's a competitive a competitive series, 118 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 5: and SGA shouldn't have lost any confidence in neither you know, 119 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 5: any of the other Okac thunder They can bounce back 120 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 5: from this. 121 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: Now that we've seen the series through three games. The 122 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: idea going into it that Okay, se was just gonna 123 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: stomp all over them and run away with it. 124 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 2: It's gone. It's just ridiculous. 125 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: Well it's gone, and I never anymore. And I think 126 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: we all were kind of an agreement. Was while everyone's 127 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 1: talking about, well, okay, see in a sweep and the 128 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 1: odds were they were a seven to one to win 129 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: the series, and I was like, man, yeah, I think 130 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: they're probably gonna win, but this is going to be 131 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 1: a much more competitive series than that. 132 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 5: Just basic almost say they're probably going to win. Now 133 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 5: it's it's just hard to say they're probably going to win. 134 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: Now I would I would still pick oka See even 135 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: down two to one, I would still take okay See. 136 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 1: But this is not going to be. This is going 137 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: to be more resembling the Denver Series for Oklahoma City, 138 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: and it already has in a lot of ways to 139 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: where they're being pushed to their limits. They're staying cool 140 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 1: and they're staying calm and collected through the entire thing, 141 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: even being down two to one, as you just search 142 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 1: from SGA. But the idea that this was going to 143 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: be they were going to walk away with this thing, 144 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 1: and you know it was just going to be a 145 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: you know, a blood bath because okay See was the 146 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: best team wired to wire in the NBA. It's a 147 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: man like you're seeing different. Indiana has just got the 148 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: ability to stay in the game and make a run 149 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 1: late that nobody else has, maybe not even Oka See. 150 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 5: It's very true. It's a very great point. It is 151 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:35,440 Speaker 5: a great point. They have been a comeback, comeback team. 152 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 5: It's almost as though they they adapt, they adjust, They 153 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 5: take your best shot while they're adapting and their adjusting, 154 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 5: and then they start to play and then they reel 155 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 5: you in and then they win. Even if it takes 156 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 5: the last shot of the game to do so. 157 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 1: Now speaking, you know, these are both well run organizations, 158 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 1: both in a great spot. Both these teams, you know, 159 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 1: they're trying to win a title. They've got big goals 160 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 1: in mind. Somebody who has spent time and maybe not 161 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:07,839 Speaker 1: so well run organizations that we are going to talk 162 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:09,559 Speaker 1: about here on two Pros and a Cup of Joe 163 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: is none other than DeVante Adams, who finds himself with 164 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 1: the LA Rams, a team who pushed the Philadelphia Eagles 165 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 1: to the brink last year, played the Eagles closer and 166 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 1: tougher than anybody else the Eagles saw in the postseason. 167 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 1: But DeVante Adams wasn't a part of that because he 168 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 1: was finishing up last year with the New York Jets. 169 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 1: And so DeVante spoke yesterday about his experience in LA 170 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 1: and maybe some differences from what he's gone through the 171 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: past couple of years. 172 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 7: This game is supposed to be a kids game and 173 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 7: us just have a good time, you know, a fun 174 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 7: time out there together. Kind of feel like you know, 175 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:49,679 Speaker 7: Pop Warner high school college ball all over the gain, 176 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 7: and that's exactly what this team feels like. In the 177 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 7: best way possible. It feels like a college type camaraderie. Yes, 178 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 7: it's always going to be different, but I just I 179 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 7: feel like this is what I needed, just base off 180 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 7: the vibe and the aura of the of the of 181 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 7: the building, and everybody's in a, you know, a good mood. 182 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 7: It's not like a you know, a dark cloud over 183 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 7: the building. And and I've I've experienced that quite a 184 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 7: bit over the last few years. So it's a glaring 185 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 7: difference when you come into a building like this. 186 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:20,839 Speaker 5: Well, there's new coaches in his last two stops, so 187 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 5: it ain't like he it's it's it's a hard point 188 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 5: to prove. 189 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: You know, he's probably he'd probably looking around going, wait, 190 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 1: so you don't have an owner landing a helicopter on 191 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: the practice field, like you don't. You don't have any 192 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 1: of that stuff going on. We don't have all the 193 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 1: other the all the other chaos that came along with 194 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: whatever the hell the Raiders were thinking and trying to 195 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 1: do there and whatever the hell the Jets were. When 196 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: you go from the Raiders and the Jets to the Rams, 197 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:53,680 Speaker 1: he's got to be looking around going, oh, wow, this 198 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 1: is this is how it should be, like, this is 199 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 1: this kind of brings me back and runs through what 200 00:10:57,840 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: things were like in Green Bay for a time like this, 201 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: This is a whole different look for my for my 202 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 1: NFL life and career. 203 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 5: By the way, it's Joe Beninatti. Sorry, Joe, I used 204 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 5: to have we I used to have them on my 205 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 5: show all the time when I was in Washington. So 206 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 5: shouts out to Joe Beninatti. I don't know why I said, 207 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 5: Brian McNally. I think McNally writes for the Post though. Anyway, Uh, 208 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 5: you know, to your point, Davante Adams has a body 209 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 5: of work that would say you're you're able to give 210 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 5: him the benefit of the doubt. That's what I would say, 211 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:37,319 Speaker 5: you know, if I removed my emotions from how things 212 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:40,719 Speaker 5: went with him in Vegas based upon you know, one 213 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 5: of my closest friends being the head coach at the 214 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:47,839 Speaker 5: time that he departed, you know for for well, no, 215 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 5: it was the year before. 216 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 4: No, they got rid of. 217 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 5: Him, when they get rid of them AP was that 218 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 5: doing APS time? 219 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 4: H Yeah, yeah, they got rid of them. Why AP 220 00:11:57,600 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 4: was still there right? 221 00:11:58,840 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 2: Yeah? 222 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, because this is yeah, AP coaches last year. 223 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, as you guys can see, sometimes my my my 224 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 5: post traumatic syndrome plays out on over the air. Like 225 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:14,079 Speaker 5: you know, me and Ap have been through some things 226 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 5: with football and stuff like that, and he's fortunate enough 227 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:20,679 Speaker 5: to have been able to get a Super Bowl ring 228 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 5: and coach as a head coach. I never thought i'd 229 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 5: have a close friend that'd be a head coach. But 230 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 5: that's pretty cool. But you know, obviously I thought they 231 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 5: gave him a raw deal. And and to me, removing 232 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 5: those emotions away from the personal aspect of how you 233 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 5: saw things go in Las Vegas. Just looking at the 234 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 5: body of work that Davante had going into leaving Green 235 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 5: Bay to play for it for the Raiders, you would 236 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 5: have expected to see more. You would have thought that 237 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 5: the results would have been different and they and they weren't, 238 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:58,599 Speaker 5: and they weren't. So I gotta say, I'm I'm sympathetic 239 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 5: to what Davante was saying and what he was feeling. 240 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 5: And then you go into New York. Now, while I'll 241 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 5: say for him to think that you were going to 242 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 5: leave Vegas and go to New York for a better situation, 243 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 5: I mean, the idea of thinking that you and Aaron 244 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:16,959 Speaker 5: Rodgers being reunited was intriguing. 245 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 4: But if we're being realistic. 246 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 5: What would have gave you any inclination that it was 247 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 5: going to be a great situation to go to New York, Like. 248 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 4: I don't. I don't buy that one. 249 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 5: So it says to me that that there's something about 250 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 5: Las Vegas and the Raiders that was so bad that 251 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 5: he'd take a risk for the amount of time that 252 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:38,439 Speaker 5: he was was going to do and go to New 253 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 5: York and play with Aaron Rodgers in that situation, because 254 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:43,319 Speaker 5: that didn't. 255 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 4: Pan out very good, very nicely. 256 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 1: I think his the appealing part of The Raiders was 257 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 1: Derek Carr because him and Derek Carr were buddies, They're 258 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 1: good friends, and so he thought, listen, if I'm. 259 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 4: Gonna they want play one down together? 260 00:13:57,000 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 2: And well they did, but or they did, didn't they? 261 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 4: Yeah? 262 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 2: But then they benched there. 263 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 1: They benched Derek Carr later in the season, and then 264 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 1: they move on from Derek Carr and DeVante. 265 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:08,559 Speaker 4: Adams season one season together. 266 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 1: Davanta Adams is looking around, going what the hell's happening here? 267 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels, that experiment was a disaster. So everything that 268 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: Devanta Adams thought he was getting in Las Vegas he 269 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: didn't get. And so He was vocal about it was 270 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 1: he was frustrated, he was disappointed. I think him the 271 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 1: appeal to go play for the Jets was like, well, look, 272 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: they're both diaper fires, but at least you know, I 273 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 1: got my other good friend in the NFL who can 274 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: be a part of that. If I can't play with 275 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 1: Derek Carr again, I'll just go play with Aaron Rodgers. 276 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: And they did it, and you know, they got a 277 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 1: couple of more touchdowns together and all that. It's I 278 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 1: just think, I. 279 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 4: Don't know, what do you mean. 280 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 5: He could have went to another team, He could have 281 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 5: fought his way to get traded to another team. Yeah, 282 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 5: but I think like, I'm gonna take my chances with 283 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 5: this other crappy team because my teammate's there, Like, yeah, 284 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 5: that's good, buddy. I love my good buddies. But I'm 285 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 5: not going to be like, yeah, let me out of here, 286 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 5: this bad situation, going to go to another one here 287 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 5: I could be with my homie, Like nah, bruhn, I don't, 288 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 5: I don't. I don't read it that way. I think 289 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 5: they felt like they could make a difference. You're not 290 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 5: going there because I just want to go be with 291 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers. You're going there because you thought he thought 292 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 5: he might be the difference maker and that things might change, 293 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 5: and if he was a part of that and they 294 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 5: were doing that together, that it was going to be. 295 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 4: You know, it's it's up from there. 296 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: Here's here's a little tip to anybody who thinks they're 297 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 1: going to be the difference maker with the Jets. If 298 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 1: you really want to be the difference maker with the Jets, 299 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 1: see if they'll trade owners with somebody and then and 300 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: then maybe maybe we could make an impact on the organization. 301 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 2: Other than that, it's what it is. 302 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 4: You know, I just I just don't think that. 303 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 5: If I'm DeVante Adams, you disqualify yourself from from saying 304 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 5: you you felt horrible about this and horrible about that. 305 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 5: If you if you went to New York with any 306 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 5: other expectation, then you thought you were going to be 307 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 5: the catalyst and help Aaron Rodgers to get that thing 308 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 5: turned around. If you went there for any other reason 309 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 5: than that, then that disqualifies you from from saying what 310 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 5: you said. But when you look at it from a 311 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 5: critical perspective, a logical perspective, the roster would have said 312 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 5: that adding a Davante Adams to the New York Jets 313 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 5: would on paper make them a better team, and it didn't. 314 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 4: It didn't, And so. 315 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 5: Where where are we with how we feel about Davante 316 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 5: Adams now? 317 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 4: Today? 318 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 5: It's it's a matter of can he can he recapture 319 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 5: the magic that he had in Green Bay or is 320 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 5: it is it gone? 321 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 3: Is it? 322 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 5: Is it just a matter of, you know, play out 323 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 5: your days and head into retirement. 324 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 4: I'm curious to see if he. 325 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 5: Can return to being an elite, top top what five 326 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 5: received in the league? What would you have him at? 327 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 5: Would you have him as a top ten receiver right 328 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:04,439 Speaker 5: now today? 329 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:11,640 Speaker 1: Yeah? On the bottom lower five? No, no, not top five. 330 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:15,719 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say top five, but yeah, he's you know, 331 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:19,880 Speaker 1: fringe top ten still like you just like you've got 332 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: to see because he's also he's produced, and he's done 333 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 1: it with not great quarterback options, Like his numbers with 334 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 1: Las Vegas are still good despite everything that he went through. 335 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 1: And then you know he gets you know, he misses 336 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 1: some time, he gets traded, they go to the Jets. 337 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 1: That wasn't a great situation. He was still trying to 338 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 1: find his footing with Rogers at certain points of last season, 339 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:41,439 Speaker 1: as well too, so his numbers are still there, but 340 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 1: it is age. I mean, yeah, I would still say 341 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 1: he's a top ten wide receiver in the league. 342 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 4: Better than Justin Jefferson. 343 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 5: No God, no Jamar Chase, no AJ Brown, no Seed 344 00:17:56,720 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 5: Lamb No, I'm and Ross Saint Brown. 345 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 8: No. 346 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 4: Hookah Nakua. 347 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, Tyreek, I'll take him over Puka. 348 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 4: I'm not, but but go ahead. They're on the same 349 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 4: team now, Tyreek Hill. 350 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 2: Probably not. 351 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:25,880 Speaker 1: But Tyree's gotten a little banged up here, so maybe 352 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 1: that's a closer closer one. 353 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe that's Collins. 354 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 2: Uh. 355 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 1: I'll take Davante. Molite neighbors, the Malie Neighbors done it 356 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 1: for one year. Brian Thomas Jr. I'll take Davante. Brian 357 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 1: Thomas Jr. By the way, underrated. He didn't get a 358 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 1: lot of love last year, but because he was at 359 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:54,679 Speaker 1: a bad spot. But he had a good year as 360 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:56,120 Speaker 1: well too. But I'll still take Davante. 361 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 5: I think it's I think it's a it's a debatable 362 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 5: for the last you know, two or three, But if 363 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 5: I'm looking at what Davante has done over the last 364 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:10,920 Speaker 5: two years, I don't take him over any of those. 365 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 5: I don't take him over not one of those guys. 366 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:16,119 Speaker 5: Looking at the last two. 367 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:19,239 Speaker 1: Years, okay, but him and Pooka Nkua together that's one 368 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 1: of the better wide receiver combos in the league. 369 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 5: Potentially, Yea, I guess potentially. I think that's where we're at. 370 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 5: Well after the last two years. What is the potential? 371 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 1: Maybe the better question is would you take Davante Adams 372 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:34,959 Speaker 1: or would you take Cooper Cup? Because that's basically what 373 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 1: they did. 374 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 5: They it's it's it's a it's a for me that 375 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:47,120 Speaker 5: one is is is tough because if Cooper Cup stays healthy. 376 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:50,199 Speaker 5: I don't have any issues with Cooper Cup. It's his 377 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 5: health that bothers me. He misses too many games due 378 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:59,119 Speaker 5: to health issues. If if he is healthy, I'm one 379 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 5: hundred percent taking Cooper Cup and Pooka Nakula over Puka 380 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:08,679 Speaker 5: Nakoulah and and Davante Adams one hundred perc I'm not 381 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:13,880 Speaker 5: I'll take Davante. I don't know what I'm getting with Davante. 382 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 5: I don't know. I don't know if he's been scarred 383 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 5: from the traveling from team to team. You are now, 384 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 5: you are now on your what you're thirteen you're thirteam. 385 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:29,679 Speaker 1: I mean yeah, but listen, Cooper Cup. You know, seeking 386 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 1: of traveling, he traveled, you know, from a horse and 387 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 1: buggy all the way to you know, to Washington to 388 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: the Rams back to the Seahawks. I mean to get 389 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:39,479 Speaker 1: out of the Amish community he was in to make 390 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 1: it to the NFL and be a Super Bowl MVP. 391 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 1: I think says something about him. 392 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 4: But you know, he's a men of Night. 393 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 5: I guess all I know is that men and Knight 394 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:52,159 Speaker 5: can catch that football and he runs some pretty good routes. 395 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:55,640 Speaker 5: And I bet you, if you were asking Matthew Stafford, 396 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 5: who do you rather have, I bet you he take 397 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 5: Cooper Cup over both those dudes, damn both the kupa 398 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:05,439 Speaker 5: and and DeVante Adams if you asked him so. And 399 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 5: I don't want to speak for him, I don't want 400 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 5: to speak out a term, but I would assume he 401 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 5: would want want Cooper Cup, a healthy Cooper Cup. And 402 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 5: I think the value there is we know what Cooper 403 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 5: Cup is able to do because of the I mean, 404 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 5: he won offensive MVP of the league with the with 405 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 5: the REMD. 406 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 1: The problem with Cooper Cup, though, is it's not like 407 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 1: he's got one year of injuries because this has been 408 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:32,639 Speaker 1: multiple years in a row since he signed the deal, 409 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 1: he like, he hasn't been the same player. And multiple teams, Yeah, 410 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: I mean people like him. 411 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 4: You know, if they like him, you don't need multiple teams. 412 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:46,719 Speaker 2: They like him, you know he's in demand. 413 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 5: I don't need multiple teams and that short amount of 414 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:52,199 Speaker 5: time to know that people like me. 415 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:52,880 Speaker 4: I'm sorry. 416 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 5: So what where we're at right now is the potential 417 00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 5: of what Cooper Cup can do where he's at currently. 418 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:03,120 Speaker 5: It's the same conversation you're going to have about Davonte 419 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:07,159 Speaker 5: Adams where he is currently. It's all up for debate, 420 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:11,399 Speaker 5: and it's all based off of potential. Because if you 421 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 5: show me one person that could tell me or tell 422 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 5: you definitively that that Davante Adams is going to be 423 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 5: a success in in LA show, where is that person? 424 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 5: Because I don't think he's there. We got Albert Breer 425 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 5: coming on in a moment here like maybe maybe he. 426 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:32,919 Speaker 4: Can clear it up. 427 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 5: But I'm just telling you I wouldn't I wouldn't bet 428 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:39,639 Speaker 5: the bank on it that that Davonte Adams is going 429 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 5: to be this lights out figure, this player for for 430 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:45,360 Speaker 5: the l A ramsh. 431 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:46,400 Speaker 1: It is Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here 432 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with you Yes. 433 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:50,880 Speaker 1: Coming up next here, we are going to hear from 434 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 1: our guy, a Thursday tradition here on this show. 435 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 2: He is Albert Breard. 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It's called Coops Leftovers. 445 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:27,920 Speaker 1: That'll be yours here again fifteen minutes from now on FSR. 446 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 1: Right now, though, we welcome in the man himself, a 447 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 1: Thursday tradition here on the show. He is Albert Breer, 448 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 1: Senior NFL Reporter, Lead content strategist at the MMQB Amazon 449 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 1: NFL on Prime Insider, and you can get him on 450 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 1: x at Albert Brier. 451 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 2: Ab good morning, how you doing? 452 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 1: Heys so one to ask you with the no shows 453 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 1: at camp, whether it be TJ. Watt, Trey Hendrickson, Terry McLaurin, 454 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 1: which of these are you most concerned is not going 455 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 1: to result in a deal with his current team? 456 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 9: And its probably all well, But like the Trey. 457 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,679 Speaker 10: Hendricksons thing, I think it's probably the most tenuous spot 458 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 10: because it's lasted three off seasons. Now they did the 459 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 10: band aid deal two years ago last year and make 460 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 10: any progress and now you know, the markets changes that 461 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 10: position where you know, like I think you have some 462 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 10: pretty decent comps and Max Crosby and and Danil Hunter 463 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 10: getting deals later in their careers better in the mid thirties, 464 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:36,199 Speaker 10: you know, And so the Bengals getting there, What does 465 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,439 Speaker 10: the structure look like? Is it more like the Famar 466 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 10: Chase structure? Is it more like the Tea Higgins structure? 467 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,479 Speaker 10: The thing is like complicated in a lot of different ways. 468 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 10: And you know, on on on one side, you've got 469 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 10: a team that you know obviously has this reputation that 470 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:55,160 Speaker 10: on the other side, you've got a player who probably 471 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 10: isn't going to be looking to give a team any discount. 472 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,679 Speaker 10: So I think that one's probably the most tenuous and 473 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 10: the least predictable. 474 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:06,679 Speaker 5: Right now, what about Micah, Like it just seems like 475 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 5: it's kind of a low impact, low key type of deal. 476 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:14,880 Speaker 5: I think everybody knows there's a big deal that's imminent, 477 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 5: but how big is it? Ab Like, should people be 478 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:24,159 Speaker 5: bracing and for the largest contract, like bigger than a 479 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 5: moles Garrett? Does it fall short of that? Like where 480 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 5: where do you see this, you know, shaping up and landing? 481 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 10: So I mean I think it should probably land north 482 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,639 Speaker 10: of miles Garrett. You know, I think at this point 483 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,399 Speaker 10: you're probably talking about like an average per years that 484 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:44,159 Speaker 10: starts with the four and not at Briand part of 485 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 10: that as the results them waiting as long as they did, 486 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:50,400 Speaker 10: you know, like the markets changed and h and that's 487 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 10: the risk of waiting, of course. And I dude, I 488 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,879 Speaker 10: don't know why the cowboys keep doing this b bar like, 489 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 10: but you know, they went down the road with ceedee lamb, 490 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:00,879 Speaker 10: they went down the road with I mean, they just 491 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 10: wait and wait and wait in the last possible minute 492 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,479 Speaker 10: and then they wind up having made an attacks and 493 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 10: so you know, I I as as weird as that 494 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 10: negotiation and the whole thing between Mike and the Cowboys 495 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 10: to spin at time over the last year. I just 496 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 10: I don't see Jerry Watt. 497 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 9: In a way or taking a hard lunch. 498 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 10: I just think that this is I mean, to me 499 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 10: at least like at some point they're going to get 500 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 10: something done. And whether that's now or on September fifth, 501 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,159 Speaker 10: you know, I think it should matter more than it 502 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 10: does to the Cowboys. But we saw their willingness to 503 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:46,640 Speaker 10: go that deep into it with Ceedee Lamb and Dak 504 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 10: Prescott last year. 505 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 9: They've got a history of this sort of thing, of course. 506 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 10: And you know, uh, you sort of wish that they 507 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 10: could have been more aggressive with something like this, like 508 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 10: because I do think they're easier in just the ones 509 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:01,440 Speaker 10: they pursued. 510 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 9: But where we. 511 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 1: Are Alberberer joining us here on Fox Sports Radio on 512 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 1: the subject of the Cowboys. 513 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 2: Why do they operate like this? 514 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 1: Why are they always waiting so long until the last 515 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,719 Speaker 1: minute to get a deal done knowing that it's going 516 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,359 Speaker 1: to cost them more from people you've talked to, Why 517 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 1: did they operate under these conditions? 518 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 9: You know, I think I think, I think would you 519 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 9: say it was that last. 520 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 1: Part I lost just why do they operate underneath the 521 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,160 Speaker 1: under these conditions and and and do business this way? 522 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean I think it's like, if you want 523 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:41,119 Speaker 10: the skeptical view, the skeptical view is that owners like 524 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,359 Speaker 10: to keep their money and their investments for as long 525 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:49,160 Speaker 10: as possible. And so that's why maybe some teams would 526 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,159 Speaker 10: rather do a deal with you in August than in March, 527 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:56,399 Speaker 10: you know, and that the longer they can wait to 528 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 10: have that might come out of their pocket, the better. 529 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 10: But if I'm not being skeptical now it which you know, 530 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 10: you always have to have some skeptics in with this stuff. 531 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:10,919 Speaker 10: I would just say, like, you know, when you're saying 532 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,879 Speaker 10: things early in the process, like well, we got to 533 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 10: find a way to fit everybody, and you know, really 534 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 10: like it's sort of self serving, and then you make 535 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 10: the player away like it puts you in a really 536 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 10: tough position. And you know, I again, like I don't 537 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 10: know if there's the cowboys drawing hard lines with guys 538 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,880 Speaker 10: early on. I think there's some cases that we would 539 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 10: rather wait the extra year so we have some certainty. 540 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 9: I just like I think that there are certain ones. 541 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 10: That are obvious, you know what I mean, Like I 542 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 10: think with see Lamb, it was obvious like that he 543 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 10: was trending towards a blockbuster deal, and like that it 544 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 10: was smart for them to get done a year early, 545 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 10: and they didn't do it, and it cost them a 546 00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 10: lot of money. I think when the quarterback generally answered 547 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 10: no question that you have the answer to, this is 548 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 10: another one now Again, like I don't know, things have 549 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 10: always been perfect with Mike uh and certain people in 550 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 10: that building. But he's a great, great player, and like 551 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 10: I do, think it's incumbent on you to make that 552 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 10: decision early, as early as you can so you can 553 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 10: get the guy under contract for a little bit less 554 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 10: and bolt of them with the with an extra previous year, 555 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 10: which knocks down the average and makes it easier to manage. 556 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 10: That's what the Eagles have done. It's one way the 557 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 10: Eagles have been able to build the roster they've been 558 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 10: able to build, and for one Raiser or out of 559 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 10: the Cowboy, she has been unwilling to build that way. 560 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 5: Speaking about easy answers, Abe, your your rep sets should 561 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 5: be pretty easy to structure. Doesn't sound like that in Cleveland. 562 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 5: And I'm curious to Joe Flacco coming out and saying 563 00:29:56,160 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 5: he doesn't know why or what his rep are going 564 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 5: to be or why they're so low, but he trusts 565 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 5: the FANSKI. My question to that would be, what does 566 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 5: that represent for Flacco? Does that mean he's got one 567 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 5: foot out the door there? They may be thinking about 568 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 5: not going with him. I know it would be easy 569 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 5: to say he's the he's the veteran. They brought him 570 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 5: back because they know they can win with him. That's 571 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 5: the easy answer, AB But I mean what isn't easy 572 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 5: about this is you have four quarterbacks and you really 573 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 5: have to figure out what. 574 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 4: You're going to do. 575 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 5: And I'll add this based upon all of the at 576 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 5: tension and all of the highlights and the fan fair 577 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 5: surrounding Shador Sanders, I think he complicates it even more 578 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 5: because your most popular player at the position is a 579 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 5: fifth round draft pick rookie. 580 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 10: Yeah, it's sort of interesting too, because I think it's 581 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 10: you know, I mean, I have they made some sort 582 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 10: of quiet promise to Joe. I don't know, if you're 583 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 10: Joe and fighting for the job you do on those reps. Now, 584 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 10: I did talk to him a couple of weeks ago, 585 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 10: and you know, he said to me, like, I'm comfortable 586 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 10: with the fact that they know who I am, they 587 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 10: know what I can do, and like that might mean 588 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 10: that I get a little less work right now. And 589 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 10: if he's so comfortable with that, it does make me 590 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 10: wonder like has they given him some sort of assurance 591 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 10: At the very least, I would say it almost feels like, 592 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 10: I guess he's got like a first round by into 593 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 10: the quarter in the quarterback co petishes. 594 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 2: You know what I mean, he's the one seed. 595 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,479 Speaker 10: Yeah, like he's got the first round by and now 596 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 10: those guys are competing for summer reps and he'll be 597 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 10: there when they get to the second round of training camp. 598 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 10: That sort of feel that way, though, doesn't it Like 599 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:48,479 Speaker 10: I I don't know, I mean like I think, you know, 600 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 10: like they do know what they have. He has played 601 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 10: in the offense. It is a little different, but like, you know, 602 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 10: if he's so willing to step aside and let these 603 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 10: guys the word, well, then I do think to some degree, 604 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 10: like he's got to feel comfortable with where he's at 605 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 10: in the competition. And you know, it'll be really fascinating 606 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 10: to see what Kevin is saying on day one up 607 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 10: training camp because of where this thing has gone and 608 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 10: you know, I think the fact that it's probably in 609 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 10: the levarc and speaks is better than me. But I 610 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 10: think it's probably impractical to have four quarterbacks in a 611 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 10: completely open competition, all on level ground at the beginning 612 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 10: at the end of July. 613 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 9: It's just too much to do. There are too few refs. 614 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 10: There's you know, like ten other guys in the huddle 615 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 10: up to get ready for the season. 616 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 9: And I do think. 617 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 10: It's Kevin like has sort of hinted at that. It's 618 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 10: not flat out said it like where you know, he's 619 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 10: say like like everyone's being evaluated right now, and sometimes 620 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 10: coaches won't say that in the spring, like that the 621 00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 10: competition is already underway. But it does feel like the 622 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 10: competition already underway. And like I said, maybe Joe does 623 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 10: have that first round five. 624 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,959 Speaker 1: He is Albert Breer, senior NFL reporter, lead content strategists 625 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 1: at the MMQB. You can get him on x at 626 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 1: Albert Breer, also Amazon, NFL on Prime Insider as well too. 627 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 6: AB. 628 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 1: We always appreciate it. Thanks so much, enjoyed the weekend. 629 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 1: We'll do it again next Thursday. 630 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 9: Thanks guys, I'm great with you. 631 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 1: There is Albert Breer with us here on Fox Sports Radio. 632 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 1: It is Two Pros and a Cup of Joe here 633 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 1: on FSR. LeVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with you coming up 634 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 1: next here though you know normally we do Lee's Leftovers. 635 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 1: F that how about coops leftovers and they're yours here 636 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 1: on FSR. 637 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 8: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and 638 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 8: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Arrington and 639 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 8: Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern three am Pacific. 640 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 1: Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio, 641 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 1: LaVar Arrington, Jonas Knox with you here. 642 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 2: If you've missed. 643 00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 1: Any of this show, we mean any of them, make 644 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 1: sure you check out the podcast. It'll be posted right 645 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,720 Speaker 1: after we go off the air. Just search Two Pros 646 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:16,799 Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcast. Be sure to follow and 647 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 1: review the podcast and rated five stars. Again, just search 648 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 1: two Pros wherever you get your podcast. You'll find today's 649 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 1: showing a best of version posted right after we get 650 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 1: off the air. We're also going to be back on 651 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 1: the air coming up tomorrow six am Eastern time, three 652 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 1: o'clock Pacific. It'll be a football Friday here on this 653 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 1: show we've got our topic roundup. We've got the usual 654 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,879 Speaker 1: grab ass and Shenanigan. So that'll be yours here again, 655 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 1: same time, same place, six am Eastern time, three o'clock Pacific. 656 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:44,759 Speaker 1: But right now it's time to close up shop with 657 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 1: a special edition of this. 658 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:51,319 Speaker 8: Please might smell a little fun. That sounds incredible, but 659 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 8: they're still good. Time to find out what's lack? Who's leftovers? 660 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:00,879 Speaker 8: Justin Cooper, what do we got? 661 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 1: Hey? 662 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 11: All right, you guys, so uh you know, like I 663 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 11: think it was a couple of weeks ago Joe Flacco 664 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,080 Speaker 11: said that he's he's not a mentor, but apparently doesn't 665 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 11: like mentoring. Well, I have learned that Joe Flacco also 666 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,319 Speaker 11: does not like TikTok. 667 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 12: TikTok dances. The fact that people that is different to 668 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 12: this generation. The fact that people want to get on 669 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:26,440 Speaker 12: their phones and show people the most Like that's embarrassing. 670 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 12: You're an adult, like being an adult. Like it's just 671 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,839 Speaker 12: like I I can't wrap my head around that, and 672 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 12: like I get it. Like you have kids, and like 673 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,279 Speaker 12: you want to like you want to like have fun 674 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:37,920 Speaker 12: with your kids, like well, like have fun. 675 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 2: With your kids in private. 676 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,200 Speaker 12: You know that's what. I'm not guarded. I don't think 677 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,080 Speaker 12: I'm guarded at all. I think honestly, if you talk 678 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:44,600 Speaker 12: to me in person, I'll tell you a lot. I'll 679 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,840 Speaker 12: be pretty honest with you. But like, yeah, on social media, 680 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:47,759 Speaker 12: no chance, no. 681 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:48,759 Speaker 2: Chance, just part of me. 682 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 4: There's there's a piece of me. 683 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:51,080 Speaker 12: At times they were like, ah, should I be this 684 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,239 Speaker 12: guy that kind of like does this a little bit? 685 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:54,960 Speaker 12: Like cause that I feel like in order to have 686 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:56,880 Speaker 12: a good social media you do want to be honest 687 00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,440 Speaker 12: and like show what you do in your life. But 688 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:01,440 Speaker 12: it's it's like that's a job. 689 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:03,879 Speaker 2: That Lvar, you're a TikTok guy? How does that land 690 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 2: with you? Jonah? I didn't set it close to home 691 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 2: or not for you. 692 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:28,239 Speaker 5: I mean I do I GA like I do I 693 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:32,360 Speaker 5: G you know, I do Facebook stuff like that, but dang, 694 00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:33,799 Speaker 5: like you're gonna put me on. 695 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 1: Have you ever seen somebody do a TikTok video in person? 696 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,280 Speaker 1: It's the most uncomfortable thing you ever watched. 697 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,160 Speaker 2: It's so awkward. Oh my god, It's like you look 698 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,040 Speaker 2: at him going, do you behave like that? 699 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:48,840 Speaker 4: What is the costco. 700 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:51,000 Speaker 9: Doing? 701 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 2: It's so weird. 702 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:57,319 Speaker 5: It's so weird man, that this whole like culture of 703 00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,319 Speaker 5: joking and pranking and doing it's starting to get bad 704 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:04,160 Speaker 5: too because people getting like, you know, killed off of 705 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 5: them Like I was joking. I was joking, yeah, but 706 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:17,000 Speaker 5: I wasn't the malfunction malfunction Yeah. So I don't know, man, 707 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 5: I don't really get off into all them. 708 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:20,080 Speaker 4: I believe in media. 709 00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:23,239 Speaker 5: I believe in you know, being able to grow your 710 00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,400 Speaker 5: brand and stuff like that. I get it, you know 711 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,239 Speaker 5: what I mean, And I enjoy it and I'm a 712 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:31,279 Speaker 5: part of it, but just to a capacity that you know, 713 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,359 Speaker 5: for me, it just falls within reason of who I 714 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 5: am and what I represent. 715 00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:40,160 Speaker 1: So for what we do, we have to do. Social media, 716 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,680 Speaker 1: I mean, it is what it is. It's a necessary evil, 717 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:44,600 Speaker 1: and if you want to call it that, that's fine. 718 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:48,319 Speaker 1: But there are certain people that have social media. 719 00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,040 Speaker 4: That shouldn't have it, no at all. I have it. 720 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:54,520 Speaker 1: You're not funny, you're not entertaining, and the stuff you 721 00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 1: post sucks, and for some reason they just keep churning 722 00:37:58,239 --> 00:37:58,560 Speaker 1: it out. 723 00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:02,480 Speaker 5: But I kind of feeled out about people making kids too, like, yeah, 724 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,919 Speaker 5: the people shouldn't even be able to make kids. Your 725 00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,680 Speaker 5: decisions just seem to be like it's gonna it's gonna 726 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,560 Speaker 5: land poorly with with a chow. Why would why would 727 00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,520 Speaker 5: they give you the opportunity to actually make one like you? 728 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:15,120 Speaker 4: You know what I mean? 729 00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:21,080 Speaker 1: By the way, happy father say to you, Happy Father's Day. 730 00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:25,080 Speaker 2: Up? What else we got, Coop? 731 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:28,760 Speaker 4: I'm just saying, go ahead, Coop? 732 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:30,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, good, by the way, Coop. 733 00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:33,320 Speaker 1: Don't you have any recommendations from a from an entertainment 734 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:34,719 Speaker 1: standpoint that could be out there? 735 00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,359 Speaker 2: Is there anything to watch? Because it feels like there's 736 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:42,239 Speaker 2: two there's so much stuff online. I do have a recommendation. Actually, yeah, okay. 737 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:46,360 Speaker 11: I have been watching a new show on Netflix called 738 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:54,600 Speaker 11: Department Q and it is a British detective series and 739 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,400 Speaker 11: it's it's really good so far what I've watched of it. 740 00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:00,760 Speaker 11: I don't know if you ever watched us Low Horses 741 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,760 Speaker 11: on Apple TV plus No? 742 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,080 Speaker 2: Is that the that was so slow? 743 00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:07,520 Speaker 4: They missed three hours of a show? 744 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:15,360 Speaker 11: Yap. Yes, that is the Gary old That is the 745 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:16,480 Speaker 11: Gary Oldman show. 746 00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:17,200 Speaker 4: Uh. 747 00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:20,359 Speaker 11: And that show is fantastic, man, and I would kind 748 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,480 Speaker 11: of compare it to this one on Netflix. 749 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:23,160 Speaker 4: Department kew that. 750 00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:27,399 Speaker 2: I'm telling you, man, Gary Oldman, he's one of my favorites. Yeah, 751 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,480 Speaker 2: one of my favorite actors. He's awesome. That guy was 752 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,400 Speaker 2: was he Churchhill? Was that the uh? Winston? 753 00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:36,319 Speaker 1: That guy was Winston Churchill in one movie? And the 754 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:37,840 Speaker 1: pimp from True Remote Romance? 755 00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:41,279 Speaker 2: In an out there? You talk about range? I love 756 00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:45,879 Speaker 2: Gary Oldman had Dracula? Was he in Dracula too? 757 00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:49,040 Speaker 11: Yeah? 758 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:50,800 Speaker 4: Was Jonas and Dracula? 759 00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:51,440 Speaker 2: Yap? 760 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:55,040 Speaker 9: Hard right? 761 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:56,640 Speaker 2: Have my Harrington? Damn? 762 00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:00,000 Speaker 11: Did you guys know that the World Series of Pokers 763 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:00,719 Speaker 11: going on right now? 764 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:02,120 Speaker 2: Come on, Coop? 765 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, come on, come about a Coop? How do you 766 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:05,279 Speaker 5: feel about that? 767 00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:05,919 Speaker 2: Well? 768 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:09,319 Speaker 11: I am flying out there this Friday, just for the 769 00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:11,560 Speaker 11: weekend so I can play in a couple of tournaments, 770 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,560 Speaker 11: and then later this month I'll be flying out there 771 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:16,280 Speaker 11: and staying for nine nights. 772 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:18,920 Speaker 2: Well you have a gambling public. 773 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think in your best finish at the 774 00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:22,919 Speaker 1: World Series of Poker was what again, Coop? 775 00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,959 Speaker 11: Well, I mean there's different events, but in the tag 776 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,319 Speaker 11: team event, my wife and I we finished in like 777 00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:32,120 Speaker 11: one hundred and thirty second place out of like out 778 00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,160 Speaker 11: of like twelve hundred or something like that. 779 00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,479 Speaker 4: Yeah, a really good at tag team. And I'm hau Coop. 780 00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,760 Speaker 2: You know, my May, my May, Coop. 781 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:43,520 Speaker 4: I appreciate you, Bro,