Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.
Speaker 2: Armstrong and Getty and he Armstrong and Yedty. Good evening.
Speaker 3: It has been a tradition here at the Late Show
Speaker 3: since yesterday that the major party candidates sit down with
Speaker 3: me for an interview. In October, we invited Kamala Harris
Speaker 3: to be our guest this evening, and she accepted that
Speaker 3: interview in a moment. In the interest of fairness, we
Speaker 3: also invited former President Donald Trump.
Speaker 2: To go himself. He declined. Our author show the Wow.
Speaker 2: Michael mentioned before the show we should hear the opening
Speaker 2: of Stephen Colbert last night, who had Kamala Harrison as
Speaker 2: the guest. You know, for better or worse, and I
Speaker 2: think it's for worse. This is the direction we've gone
Speaker 2: with our culture, where it would have been beyond unheard
Speaker 2: of to take that point of view as a talk
Speaker 2: show host back in the day. You just you would
Speaker 2: not make your preferences that open, no, because it was
Speaker 2: seen bad for business. It was bad for business, and
Speaker 2: I think also just seen as not the correct way
Speaker 2: to do things.
Speaker 1: You're right, it's on gentlemanly and overly aggressive and just
Speaker 1: mean to other Americans who disagree with you.
Speaker 2: But if you want to be successful, now, I suggest
Speaker 2: you do what Stephen Colbert does because he gets great
Speaker 2: ratings with that. And so that leads us to this
Speaker 2: and the point that Kamala Harris, while doing a media
Speaker 2: blitz outside of sixty minutes where she was pressed somewhat
Speaker 2: certainly more than she normally gets, she's doing she's going
Speaker 2: to all friendly venues. I mean only to the point
Speaker 2: that she did Oprah Winfrey. Oprah Winfrey spoke at her convention.
Speaker 2: She did Kristin Welker. Kristen Welker had come out and
Speaker 2: said she endorses her. Howard Stern endorses her. She's gone
Speaker 2: on Howard Stern. She went on the View. Of course,
Speaker 2: the views all in love with her, and she went
Speaker 2: on Colbert, and you just heard how Colbert handled it.
Speaker 2: On The View yesterday, she was asked a question, is
Speaker 2: there anything you would do different than what Joe Biden didn't?
Speaker 2: She passed on that. She said no, which seems crazy.
Speaker 2: Has the change candidate? Yes, it's crazy, And then Colbert
Speaker 2: asked the same question last night.
Speaker 3: Polling shows that a lot of people, especially independent voters,
Speaker 3: really want this to be a change election, and that
Speaker 3: they tend to break for you in terms of thinking
Speaker 3: about change, you are a member of the president administration
Speaker 3: under a Harris administration, what would the major changes be
Speaker 3: and what would say the same?
Speaker 4: Sure, well, I mean I'm obviously not Joe Biden, and
Speaker 4: so that would be one change. But also I think
Speaker 4: it's important to say with you know, twenty eight days ago,
Speaker 4: I'm not Donald Trump.
Speaker 2: Okay, so she decided not to answer the question again.
Speaker 2: We got a little more coming up here, but that
Speaker 2: is interesting. Mark Cowpern made the point in his newsletter
Speaker 2: that you generally you get these big opportunities to be
Speaker 2: on big shows and get a big audience. This is
Speaker 2: your gonna get their message out. Here's we're going to
Speaker 2: score some points, move the ball down the fields. It's
Speaker 2: an opportunity to get your message out without having to
Speaker 2: spend a ton of money. You got all that money
Speaker 2: that you're having to spend on advertisements to try to
Speaker 2: say something. Here you get to say it for free.
Speaker 2: And she had the opportunity to say something, and she
Speaker 2: chose not to. And as he wrote yesterday, one they're
Speaker 2: making no news with all these interviews, So why do them?
Speaker 2: I mean, they're not making any news unless your only
Speaker 2: point is to be able to say, oh, we've done
Speaker 2: lots of interviews, which might be their only point, but
Speaker 2: they're making no new suspect that may be, but go on,
Speaker 2: they're making no news, So it would seem that their
Speaker 2: goal is to not f up. Their only goal is
Speaker 2: to get out of there without doing damage, which is
Speaker 2: a hell of a way to be a candidate. I
Speaker 2: can't think of any winning candidates that have done that.
Speaker 2: Maybe Joe Biden, but that was that weird COVID year,
Speaker 2: so it was slightly different. I'm not sure it would
Speaker 2: have worked if it hadn't been for COVID. Well, he
Speaker 2: had that convenient excuse.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, So he was never peppered with the why
Speaker 1: don't you talk to anybody who's gonna ask you any
Speaker 1: hard questions? Because eventually I think journalists will get there.
Speaker 2: Trump asked answers questions, hard questions all the time. Obama,
Speaker 2: did Bush? Did Clinton?
Speaker 1: Did?
Speaker 2: They go on these shows and they would make news,
Speaker 2: they'd say things, they'd promote their thing. She is in
Speaker 2: full prevent for corners defense all the time, which is
Speaker 2: really interesting. And then again, what Mark Alpern wrote today
Speaker 2: was and he was mystified as to why she didn't
Speaker 2: take these opportunities to separate herself when asked both on
Speaker 2: the View and on Colbert. If these were prepared answers
Speaker 2: on which she executed, heaven helped Wilmington. That's the home base,
Speaker 2: that's where her campaign is based out of. If these
Speaker 2: were ad libbed answers, heaven help Wilmington. Either way. If
Speaker 2: this was your strategy, oh my god. If this was
Speaker 2: not your strategy, oh my god.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: If you gave us ten minutes to sit in a
Speaker 1: room and come up with half a dozen plausible, sexy
Speaker 1: answers to that question, I'm confident I could do it.
Speaker 2: I could certainly come up with three or four.
Speaker 1: I was out trying.
Speaker 2: I would start with, well, if you haven't spent four
Speaker 2: years at a job and not learned something, you're not
Speaker 2: doing it right. And here's what we've learned. And then yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, I had a couple of things makes.
Speaker 1: Exactly or even I mean, this is unfair, but it
Speaker 1: just popped into my head. One thing I would change
Speaker 1: is we had believed Republicans would work with us on
Speaker 1: securing the border, and they didn't. In fact, just as
Speaker 1: we were at a deal, they backed out of it.
Speaker 1: That's why we had all those millions of people pour
Speaker 1: across the border. So one thing I've learned is don't
Speaker 1: trust the Republicans to be bipartisan. I mean, that's unfair,
Speaker 1: it's bull crap, it's dishonest, but at least it's an answer.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, God helped Wilmington. She's utterly incapable of
Speaker 1: even the most hackneyed stock political you know, buckets of
Speaker 1: bull crap.
Speaker 2: Well, her first swing added on the View yesterday was
Speaker 2: this one.
Speaker 5: Well, if anything, would you have done something differently than
Speaker 5: President Biden during the past four years.
Speaker 4: There is not a thing that comes to mind in
Speaker 4: terms of and I've been a part of most of
Speaker 4: the decisions that have had impact.
Speaker 2: So that is incredible. Yeah, that is incredible. There's not
Speaker 2: a thing that comes to mind. So again, they either
Speaker 2: went over this because this is an obvious one. I mean,
Speaker 2: this is absolutely an obvious question. So they either had
Speaker 2: not thought of it, which means they're it's malpractice, or
Speaker 2: they did and she's incompletely incapable of remembering what our
Speaker 2: answer was right. Those are your only two choices, I think.
Speaker 1: And it's not that she was unable to come up
Speaker 1: with something on the fly, because again, it's such an
Speaker 1: obvious question, you'd have to be prepared for it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there are only two options. They didn't prepare,
Speaker 2: which would be crazy. They did prepare and she couldn't
Speaker 2: remember it.
Speaker 1: Or even something like, well, remember when we took office,
Speaker 1: it was still the time of the pandemic, and so
Speaker 1: obviously our policies were tailored towarding pandemic time when the
Speaker 1: economy is struggling. Now that we have gotten inflation under control,
Speaker 1: we're going to be much more growth oriented anything like that.
Speaker 1: And instead, I can't think of anything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a terrible, terrible answer. So back to Colbert.
Speaker 2: So last time in Colbert she's asked the question again,
Speaker 2: she basically says, no, I can't think of anything, and
Speaker 2: then she goes into this is this is classic Kamala
Speaker 2: Harris right here. And so when we.
Speaker 4: Think about the significance of what this next generation of
Speaker 4: leadership looks like were I to be elected president, it
Speaker 4: is about Frankly, I love the American people, and I
Speaker 4: believe in our country. I love that it is our
Speaker 4: character and nature to be an ambitious people. You know,
Speaker 4: we have aspirations, we have dreams, are we have incredible
Speaker 4: work ethic and I just believe that we can create
Speaker 4: and build upon the success we've achieved in a way
Speaker 4: that we continue to grow opportunity and in that way
Speaker 4: grow the strength of our nation. So, for example, my
Speaker 4: economic policy is I think of it and I have
Speaker 4: named it as creating an opportunity economy.
Speaker 2: Man, I believe Americans have maps. Uh yeah, got her
Speaker 2: fallback of the Look, this is a country where I
Speaker 2: believe in the aspirations and people have dreams.
Speaker 1: And wow, boy, that was that was some vapid garbage.
Speaker 2: If she wins, which right now it is a coin flip.
Speaker 2: If she wins, uh, we'll never hear this stuff. But
Speaker 2: if she loses, people will start pointing fingers and we'll
Speaker 2: hear pretty quickly. Yeah. We coached her up like crazy,
Speaker 2: and she would She couldn't answer, She couldn't remember anything
Speaker 2: or something, right.
Speaker 4: You know, we we have aspirations, we have dreams.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what you don't have is like well structured sentences.
Speaker 1: A if she wins and and cracks up, and I
Speaker 1: am not rooting for that because it would be terrible
Speaker 1: for the country. Then the knives are really, really really
Speaker 1: going to come out. But yeah, I would be delighted
Speaker 1: if she were to lose. Well, roll the dice with Trump.
Speaker 1: But I want to hear the campaign insider say it
Speaker 1: was like trying to train to talk, to drive a car.
Speaker 1: I mean, we just knew we were doomed from the start.
Speaker 1: We did our best.
Speaker 2: Oh, I'd be thing to say.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm I'm telling you now on a totally
Speaker 1: different topic, speaking of the media, Thank god.
Speaker 2: That is that is I just it's amazing. It's amazing. Anyways,
Speaker 2: go ahead.
Speaker 1: So we were talking about the CBS story in both
Speaker 1: Hours two and three where Tony Decouple dared to ask
Speaker 1: some difficult questions of ton of easy Coats about his
Speaker 1: new book, and the woke CBS newspeople freaked out about
Speaker 1: it because she showed bias. The fact that he asked
Speaker 1: difficult questions of a liberal showed bias, when CBS is
Speaker 1: just absolutely stemmed to stern packed full of bias.
Speaker 2: In digging into.
Speaker 1: This through multiple sources in the audio we came up
Speaker 1: with and the rest of it, I'd missed one aspect
Speaker 1: of it. One CBS reporter Jan Crawford, who's been their
Speaker 1: CBS chief Legal correspondent since two thousand and nine, which
Speaker 1: she said, I am now a huge Jan Crawford fan.
Speaker 2: Oh really can't wait to bring that to cool among
Speaker 2: other things. And Tesla has just unveiled their version of
Speaker 2: a ROBOTAXI remember they're the they're the ones that made
Speaker 2: electric cars even somewhat viable. Maybe they'll make robo because
Speaker 2: the whole training dogs thing didn't work out.
Speaker 1: Weird.
Speaker 2: They getting weird fast. Stay here. I will read the
Speaker 2: new Bob Woodword book, which comes out in five days.
Speaker 2: I think jd Vance told me he was a hack.
Speaker 2: I won't read it. He's definitely not a hack. The
Speaker 2: hack thing that happens with Bob Woodward books is the
Speaker 2: leaks that come out to promote it, which are always
Speaker 2: very misrepresentative respirat. They don't represent well the book in
Speaker 2: its totality when it comes out. But probably talk more
Speaker 2: about that when the book does come out next week. Also,
Speaker 2: Benjamin Netton, Yahoo, who Joe Biden. That's that's interesting they're
Speaker 2: talking today. So one of the blurbs from the new
Speaker 2: Woodward book is that behind the scenes. Biden calls Net
Speaker 2: and Yahoo regularly that effing a hole refers to him,
Speaker 2: so does not like a liar, although I think Benjamin
Speaker 2: Natanya was probably fairly thick skinned for a variety of reasons.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, as all politicians are. But they're going to
Speaker 2: speak together for the first time in weeks, Biden and
Speaker 2: Net and Yahoo as Israel tries to figure out to
Speaker 2: what extent they're going to attack Iran's I'm sure that
Speaker 2: will be one of the topics came across this. There's
Speaker 2: a big Tesla event tomorrow. Elon Musk gonna announce a
Speaker 2: few new things to his regular cars, and then also
Speaker 2: the cyber Cab, which is going to be a vehicle
Speaker 2: that they deploy sometime between the next month and the
Speaker 2: next year. They're not exactly sure how long it'll take
Speaker 2: the roll out, but it's like we've heard of some
Speaker 2: of these other self driving cars and a new version
Speaker 2: of that, the cyber cab. He has also brought up
Speaker 2: the possibility of Tesla owners letting their cars run as
Speaker 2: robotaxis when they're not in use. I don't feel like
Speaker 2: I'm going to like when I'm in sleep at night,
Speaker 2: gonna let my car be running around town with drunk
Speaker 2: college kids in it. Get ready to hose that thing out, man,
Speaker 2: get in it in the morning, and there's pizza boxes
Speaker 2: and vomit and you know, Lord Musk, if you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. No, uh so, I don't know. I
Speaker 2: just I do not see this ever happening. I really don't,
Speaker 2: at least not for a very long time, any sort
Speaker 2: of robotaxi thing where there are no human beings involved
Speaker 2: just because of vandalism. I don't see how you get
Speaker 2: around that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and robberies and that sort of thing, as we
Speaker 1: discussed yesterday.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't either.
Speaker 1: I just don't know that there is a way to
Speaker 1: circumvent evil people, and everything human beings do must be
Speaker 1: designed to circumvent evil people. We've got a couple of
Speaker 1: stories we haven't gotten to on that, just the how
Speaker 1: the online community is coaching everybody on how to rip
Speaker 1: off stores on fake returns, and how that's billions and
Speaker 1: billions of dollars. I have another one about the rampant
Speaker 1: fraud going on to New York City now with the
Speaker 1: mobs and the various ethnic gangs and faking up accidents
Speaker 1: because it's a no fault insurance state, and they're ripping
Speaker 1: off the insurance companies so much the insurance company is
Speaker 1: going to pull out of New York City completely. All
Speaker 1: human systems and politics must be designed to recognize.
Speaker 2: There are evil doers and predators.
Speaker 1: Among us, and anybody who thinks otherwise, and they can
Speaker 1: just they only do it because they're poor, or this
Speaker 1: set because they're the wrong race, or that's the only
Speaker 1: reason there's crime, and.
Speaker 2: You're a fool and an idiot. Yeah, And it would
Speaker 2: seem that many of us will indulge our worst impulses
Speaker 2: if we can get away with it to an extent,
Speaker 2: we might not even realize ourselves. Luckily, I haven't been
Speaker 2: put in that situation to fully realize what I might
Speaker 2: be willing to do. If nobody was watching her, I
Speaker 2: couldn't get caught, but plenty of people will. Yeah, And
Speaker 2: like you said, everything's got to be built around that
Speaker 2: element of human nature. Video here on the New York Post.
Speaker 2: New York Post is where you go to for sometimes
Speaker 2: really great journalism, some amazing opinion pieces, and the dumbest
Speaker 2: of clickbait stories like they fired me because I'm too hot.
Speaker 2: You know, lots of.
Speaker 1: Those They said, my preasts are too big to be
Speaker 1: a flight attendant.
Speaker 2: Right, well, jeez, she must have enormous press. Then I
Speaker 2: better click on this story. Don't do it, you moron.
Speaker 2: Here's one video shows drunk dad dragged under car while
Speaker 2: allegedly teaching nine year old son how to drive, and
Speaker 2: they've got a video. I haven't watched it yet because
Speaker 2: I gotta watch a commercial. It's too long. You're drunk
Speaker 2: showing your nine year old how to drive. And it's
Speaker 2: not out in the country like my kids were driving
Speaker 2: when they were nine on our farm. Absolutely, thank you're
Speaker 2: call in the county. But his nine year old and
Speaker 2: it's into like a suburban street and he's hammered and
Speaker 2: he ends up underneath the car.
Speaker 1: This is that's really a terrible idea, numb nut. So
Speaker 1: one CBS staffer stood up like a hero and protested
Speaker 1: against the woke onslaught against poor Tony Dicoppel. Her heroic
Speaker 1: speech coming up next, love It.
Speaker 2: Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 5: We will still, I want to be clear, We will
Speaker 5: still ask tough questions. We will still hold people accountable.
Speaker 5: That's part of our job too, but we will do
Speaker 5: so objectively and that means very plain, we have to
Speaker 5: check up bias and opinions at the door, and that
Speaker 5: applies to every single point. We are not here to
Speaker 5: represent any viewpoint. We are here to tell stories and
Speaker 5: I say this a lot. We are here to report
Speaker 5: news without fear or faith.
Speaker 1: That is Adrian Rourke, who's one of the higher ups
Speaker 1: at CBS News, lecturing the whole news crew on not
Speaker 1: having bias because a conservative dared to ask some difficult
Speaker 1: questions of a progressive author and everybody freaked out.
Speaker 2: It is utterly hilarious.
Speaker 1: It is expository, meaning they've exposed themselves. It's frustrating because
Speaker 1: she sounds sincere.
Speaker 2: Right, which leads me to believe that all this bias
Speaker 2: that we're seeing, especially around these debates, is they believe
Speaker 2: they're being fair. They think they're being fair moderators and
Speaker 2: treating both sides equally. It's just a one side's evil
Speaker 2: and one side's good, so we don't need to fact
Speaker 2: check them. They actually believe it. No, no my sides
Speaker 2: telling the truth. What would I fact check?
Speaker 1: That guy's lying all the time, And especially in the
Speaker 1: wake of CBS editing Kamala Harrison, the the unforgivable one
Speaker 1: sided moderation of the VEEP debate the other day, and
Speaker 1: just CBS has leaned to the left for years and
Speaker 1: years and years and years, the idea that she would
Speaker 1: be bellowing and demanding no bias here in the wake
Speaker 1: of again some difficult but fair questions being asked of a.
Speaker 2: Progressive It's just it's just pathetic, it's just sad and on.
Speaker 1: During this one sided onslaught, though, Jan Crawford, who's been
Speaker 1: the CBS chief Legal correspondent since nine actually was like
Speaker 1: the one person or one of very few to rush
Speaker 1: to Tony da Couple's that's the journalist and question who
Speaker 1: ask the tough questions of tin of easy coats. Uh,
Speaker 1: she rushed to the couple's defense, and uh, we'll start
Speaker 1: with one O seven Michael.
Speaker 2: So I guess we're.
Speaker 5: It sounds like we're calling out one of our anchors
Speaker 5: in a somewhat public setting on this call for failing
Speaker 5: to meet editorial standards. I'm not even sure what. I
Speaker 5: don't understand how Tony's interview or any of his comments
Speaker 5: that he's made with anchors failed to, you know, meet
Speaker 5: our editorial standards that obviously go back to the days
Speaker 5: of Murrow and you know Cronkite, which, of course I
Speaker 5: thought our commitment was too truth. And when someone comes
Speaker 5: on our air with a one sided account of a
Speaker 5: very complex situation, as Cost himself acknowledges that he has,
Speaker 5: it's my understanding that as a journalist we are obligated
Speaker 5: to challenge that worldview so that our viewers can have
Speaker 5: that access to the truth or a fuller account, a
Speaker 5: more balanced account. And to me, that is what Tony did.
Speaker 5: He challenged Coast his worldview, his one sided worldview. Coast
Speaker 5: got to respond, it was civil.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'd have.
Speaker 5: To look this up. I don't know if I'm quoting
Speaker 5: it exactly, but I read the Washington Post and they
Speaker 5: said it was calm, and you know, artfelt. I think
Speaker 5: those are the words they used.
Speaker 2: To a great extent. It's such an age thing. I'm
Speaker 2: guessing Jane Crawford because she's been at CBS like mine,
Speaker 2: tire following CBS News life, she's probably roughly my age,
Speaker 2: in her fifties. I'm guessing it's just that people that
Speaker 2: have been around long enough to remember when no our
Speaker 2: goal is to try to be somewhat fair and just
Speaker 2: to get to the truth. And then there's the new
Speaker 2: crowd that thinks, no, no, no, our goal is to out
Speaker 2: the evil side and protect our side. And there's just
Speaker 2: that division there age wise, and I would guess that
Speaker 2: Jan Crawford didn't do her career any favors there by
Speaker 2: standing up for the old version.
Speaker 1: God bless her, though she can walk away with her
Speaker 1: chin up and her integrity. Intact, let's say hear more
Speaker 1: from Jan.
Speaker 5: I don't see how we can say that failed to
Speaker 5: meet our Edit Royal standards.
Speaker 2: I mean, I thought our.
Speaker 5: Edit Royal standards focused on and when we announced this
Speaker 5: in a public setting, which I understand, you say you've
Speaker 5: addressed it with Tony, I don't know what that even means.
Speaker 5: But you know, it's when we fail to or when
Speaker 5: we broadcast false information or we adequate, you know, don't
Speaker 5: adequately verify something, which we have done in the past,
Speaker 5: and we've acknowledged that. But here I think Tony did
Speaker 5: the opposite. He prevented a one sided account from being
Speaker 5: broadcast on our network about a deeply complex, as you said,
Speaker 5: situation that you know completely was devoid of history or fact.
Speaker 5: And as journalists, it seems to me, that's what we
Speaker 5: have an obligation to do. And as someone that does
Speaker 5: a lot of interviews, including on controversial topics with public figures,
Speaker 5: you know, I'm not.
Speaker 2: Really sure now how.
Speaker 5: To proceed in challenging the viewpoints that are obviously one
Speaker 5: sided and devoid of your history.
Speaker 2: Don't is what they're saying. I'm sorry, old lady. I
Speaker 2: looked it up. She's exactly our age. Sorry, old lady,
Speaker 2: times have changed. You're talking about a prior era, which
Speaker 2: isn't even that long ago. But times have changed. You're
Speaker 2: not supposed to challenge a one sided point of view
Speaker 2: if it's the same point of view that the network has.
Speaker 2: That's not your joby.
Speaker 1: We will be biased all day long until a conservative
Speaker 1: actually asks a progressive hard questions. Then we will yell
Speaker 1: about how we have no bias. It is the official policy.
Speaker 2: It's something to watch that that liberals my whole life.
Speaker 2: Like Bill Maher, Matt Tayebi, who we quote all the time,
Speaker 2: who's also in his fifties. Jan Crawford there, who I've
Speaker 2: always was. She was a left leaning journalist. For me,
Speaker 2: my whole life is now standing up. For wait a second,
Speaker 2: we're not supposed to let somebody be completely one sided.
Speaker 2: But man, it's interesting how much things have changed so quickly.
Speaker 1: Now. Given Adrian Rourke, the News had there given her
Speaker 1: very framing of the discussion, everything she said, the way
Speaker 1: she described the issues, and their standards and what biases
Speaker 1: and their duty to their viewers.
Speaker 2: And everything she said.
Speaker 1: Jan Crawford took on the argument on those terms and
Speaker 1: to me is winning its hands down. You'll notice the
Speaker 1: interesting twist at the end of this final clip.
Speaker 5: I don't understand how we can say that violated CBS
Speaker 5: News is editorial standards, and I don't understand if that's
Speaker 5: the case, what is the objective standard for the rest
Speaker 5: of us when we're doing our own interviews. Again, like
Speaker 5: I said, I'm trying to just process this, so I
Speaker 5: appreciate you speaking of I appreciate you bringing all this up,
Speaker 5: and as I said, I know that this is a
Speaker 5: lot for.
Speaker 2: Everybody to process. No, it's not thing.
Speaker 5: What I want to do is talk to you personally
Speaker 5: after this, just in the interest of letting everybody get
Speaker 5: get get you on the editorial and knowing what today is.
Speaker 5: I'll call you right after this, or I just can
Speaker 5: jump off and call you now, no, I mean, we
Speaker 5: have news to get through. It is a very important day.
Speaker 5: I mean I know I didn't was not aware that
Speaker 5: people had reached out to you or Wendy. I wish
Speaker 5: that I had to say a great job, Tony or
Speaker 5: you know, way to not allow a one sited account
Speaker 5: on a deeply complex issue be presented on our network,
Speaker 5: which is a disservice to our viewers. I didn't know
Speaker 5: that that was something I needed to do, but Jef,
Speaker 5: I would very much welcome the opportunity.
Speaker 2: To have that conversation. Thank you. We will have that
Speaker 2: right after this.
Speaker 5: Thank you.
Speaker 1: Persolutely on industry source said Crawford has quote balls of
Speaker 1: steel and as one of the most respected journalists that CBS.
Speaker 1: He added, it's disgraceful that management chose not to answer
Speaker 1: her question in front of the whole group on the call.
Speaker 2: Unless you are turning the page toward the new journalism,
Speaker 2: which is about advocacy, You choose a side and you
Speaker 2: advocate advocate for it. That's your job. And I don't
Speaker 2: know if that manager bel leaves that, but I think
Speaker 2: she believes all of her young people believe it. And
Speaker 2: yet she, as I said, she framed the entire thing
Speaker 2: with the traditional ethics.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then when Jan Crawford said, well the traditional
Speaker 1: ethics Tony fulfilled in spades four stars.
Speaker 2: I think, well we should talk privately. I see the
Speaker 2: conundrum there. I guess you can't say it out loud.
Speaker 2: So it is the new journalism that may take over.
Speaker 2: Maybe already has most places. But maybe you can't take
Speaker 2: a good decisions, son, but maybe you can't say it
Speaker 2: out loud. Hanson just said in my ear that manager
Speaker 2: is seething right now. Yeah. When a manager says to you,
Speaker 2: let's have this conversation afterwards in private, they're probably very
Speaker 2: unhappy that you will.
Speaker 1: Because you've exposed me as a lying hypocrite, right and
Speaker 1: you've exposed me as somebody not only a hypocrite, but
Speaker 1: is in violation of the very principles I'm spouting at
Speaker 1: the moment.
Speaker 2: I think this is fascinating. It's happened at the Washington Post,
Speaker 2: It's happened in the New York Times. You're hearing it,
Speaker 2: getting to hear it at CBS News. Who's gonna win out?
Speaker 2: Is it gonna be the no journalism is supposed to
Speaker 2: get to the truth, or is journalism supposed to advocate
Speaker 2: for a position who's gonna win out in the end.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't like our chances. I just
Speaker 2: want to I don't know.
Speaker 1: Is there a GoFundMe for jan Crawford or can I
Speaker 1: kiss her or give her a high five or a
Speaker 1: buy stock or something. I just I so appreciate her
Speaker 1: courage and eloquence in defense of the very freaking principles.
Speaker 1: Do you think MAYBELD Adrian Rourke was droning on about, well,
Speaker 1: we get an interesting text from somebody said, you guys
Speaker 1: obviously have never been managers of large groups of people.
Speaker 1: What that person is trying to do is deal with
Speaker 1: a very hostile set of employees underneath her, and you know,
Speaker 1: figure out a way to get them to work together. Okay,
Speaker 1: maybe I don't know.
Speaker 2: It seemed like on this particular topic, you got to
Speaker 2: choose a side, you got to choose a direction. You
Speaker 2: can't there's no bringing it together. You're either going to
Speaker 2: do journalism the way it's always been or at least
Speaker 2: for the last seventy five years, or not. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I would say to that person, I see your point,
Speaker 1: and I appreciate it. I get what you're trying to
Speaker 1: say you have to calm things down before you solve problems.
Speaker 1: But I don't believe that Ms Rourke was actually trying
Speaker 1: to do that. I think she was giving into the
Speaker 1: worst impulses of her mob of you know, woke employees
Speaker 1: are going to burn the place to the ground. You can't.
Speaker 1: At some point you have to make a stand. Although
Speaker 1: again your point is well taken.
Speaker 2: So do you think Jan Crawford doesn't know that, For instance,
Speaker 2: Columbia Journalism School, maybe the most respected journalism school in America,
Speaker 2: has decided that advocacy journalism is the new way.
Speaker 1: Well, I think I think she's one hundred percent acquainted
Speaker 1: with it, like I said, and that was that was
Speaker 1: the reason I went to Pains to point out that
Speaker 1: she used the very principles the Miss Rourke was expressing.
Speaker 1: She met her with her own verbiage and challenged her.
Speaker 2: Why do you think, why do you think the boss
Speaker 2: didn't say it, doesn't say it out loud? Why do
Speaker 2: you think places don't say it out loud? Well, if
Speaker 2: that is the direction journalism is going, advocacy journalism, and
Speaker 2: the young people want it that way. Just because you
Speaker 2: think you'd turn off everybody over the age of forty five.
Speaker 1: Well, keeping in mind the contribution of the texture there
Speaker 1: we were taking Adrian and Rourke at a word that
Speaker 1: she thinks she's being unbiased. I think that person's point
Speaker 1: was she was just trying to defuse the young man
Speaker 1: acts well and Gail although Gail King she's friends with
Speaker 1: Coats and a far lefty and a racialist activist and
Speaker 1: the rest of it. I think it wasn't just young
Speaker 1: woke staffers. I think it was the very liberal heavyweights
Speaker 1: of CBS News who are on the war path, and
Speaker 1: she's It could be Rourke knew she was threading an
Speaker 1: impossible needle, but was just trying to diffuse the anger
Speaker 1: of the lefty.
Speaker 2: Heavyweights because she had no other choice.
Speaker 1: She couldn't win that fight. I don't know yet.
Speaker 2: I'm disturbed by the state of mainstream journalism. Everything woke
Speaker 2: turns to Now. A lot of you would say, oh,
Speaker 2: who cares. I don't read the New York Times, I
Speaker 2: don't watch CBS Evening News. I get all my news
Speaker 2: from And then you would name a bunch of things
Speaker 2: I've probably never even heard of. Sure, but I don't
Speaker 2: know if that's gonna work force where everybody's got their
Speaker 2: own sources. You don't know if that's going to work.
Speaker 2: I don't. As I've often said, we'll all find out together. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we will. We'll finish strong next The hurricane still has
Speaker 2: a possibility to be a major factor in the presidential election,
Speaker 2: depending how the relief efforts continue in North Carolina and
Speaker 2: Georgia and Tennessee, and also with Milton Barren down on Florida.
Speaker 2: The mayor there in Tampa, who yesterday said if you stay,
Speaker 2: you're gonna die, today said, if you plan to ride
Speaker 2: out the hurricane, that's a coffin you're in in your home.
Speaker 1: Well, finding a new way to express it. Okay, I
Speaker 1: guess so. So he's probably damn close to right, given
Speaker 1: the predicted storm surge.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I haven't been paying that close attention. I don't know.
Speaker 2: There are many examples, I think when they have asked
Speaker 2: for these evacuations, I've always thought I'd stay, depending on
Speaker 2: my lifestyle. If I got kids would be a different
Speaker 2: calculation than if I'm by myself and all that sort.
Speaker 1: Of stuff, and you're eleven cats, of course, to protect them.
Speaker 2: Milton expected to hit Florida with so much force. It
Speaker 2: could change forever the coastline of Florida. Uh, the world's
Speaker 2: worst influencer. This is a woman refusing to evacuate before
Speaker 2: the hurricane who says she's okay with dying. Okay, nice,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna hit tonight the hurricane is in.
Speaker 1: Go an hour inland and stay at the Holiday Inn.
Speaker 2: Instead of dying. I don't think you could. At this point,
Speaker 2: every hotel room is booked or closed. They have their
Speaker 2: Tropicana field where the baseball team plays. It's full of cots.
Speaker 2: Is it up high enough to not have the water
Speaker 2: come in here? I suppose hard getting in the stadium.
Speaker 1: I think I'd walk into the Holiday and knock on
Speaker 1: every door, say hey, do you have two beds in there?
Speaker 1: I'll give you two hundred bucks to let me sleep
Speaker 1: here tonight. I'm a nice fella. A good conversation, you mean, like,
Speaker 1: what do you want to talk about the room that
Speaker 1: people are already in?
Speaker 2: Yes, you're just gonna hope they like the looks together.
Speaker 2: Hi'd eyeball them as well. Sure the wife thinks you're
Speaker 2: hot or something.
Speaker 1: Be sleeping on a cottona stadium.
Speaker 2: Almost finish, Let's get ready final thoughts with Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 2: Here's your host for final thoughts, Joe.
Speaker 1: Gimmy, let's get a final thought from everybody on the
Speaker 1: crew to wrap up the day. Michaelangelo or technical director
Speaker 1: lead us off my yeah very quickly.
Speaker 2: How many TikTok videos are we going to see?
Speaker 1: If people trying to write out Milton or you know,
Speaker 1: try to get followers that way.
Speaker 2: I don't know if this one's gonna be one of those.
Speaker 2: I don't think it is. Now.
Speaker 1: Let's Darwin at work. Katie Greener is seemed to use
Speaker 1: woman as a final thought.
Speaker 2: Katie, I don't know why.
Speaker 1: The image of you going door to door to holiday
Speaker 1: and asking if you could sleep in people's rooms.
Speaker 2: Just made me laugh so hard. Mind if I sleep
Speaker 2: with your family? Yeah, I got an extra buff kid.
Speaker 2: It's a family of four. I'm gonna say, hey, sorry
Speaker 2: to Boby. I'll move on. Ye just looking for place
Speaker 2: to sleep? Jack final thought, I haven't heard it yet.
Speaker 2: Howard Stern gushes over Kamala Harrison interview and laments SNL
Speaker 2: making fun of her. Okay, fine, Stern.
Speaker 1: The great rebel, the great non follower of rules, is
Speaker 1: now just a boot licking lackey of Jopy dishonest politicians.
Speaker 2: Didn't think I'd see that day, Armstrong and Getty wrare
Speaker 2: I pick up another grueling four hour workday.
Speaker 1: So many people would think, so little time. Go to
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Speaker 2: Good luck, see you tomorrow. God bless America. I'm Strong
Speaker 2: and Getty.
Speaker 1: It's one hundred on the crazy meter, even the particular
Speaker 1: field and particularly of harsh attacks.
Speaker 2: We have aspirations, we have dreams, and I say this
Speaker 2: a lot. So let's go with the bine. You just
Speaker 2: put on the full clown outfit. Put on the.
Speaker 1: Red shoes, put on the nose of the wig, and
Speaker 1: the weird jumpsuit.
Speaker 2: Clowns wear wear pants, clowns fit. Thanks all very much,
Speaker 2: Armstrong and Getty