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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

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Speaker 2: Armstrong and Getty and he Armstrong and Yedty. Good evening.

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Speaker 3: It has been a tradition here at the Late Show

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Speaker 3: since yesterday that the major party candidates sit down with

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Speaker 3: me for an interview. In October, we invited Kamala Harris

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Speaker 3: to be our guest this evening, and she accepted that

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Speaker 3: interview in a moment. In the interest of fairness, we

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Speaker 3: also invited former President Donald Trump.

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Speaker 2: To go himself. He declined. Our author show the Wow.

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Speaker 2: Michael mentioned before the show we should hear the opening

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Speaker 2: of Stephen Colbert last night, who had Kamala Harrison as

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Speaker 2: the guest. You know, for better or worse, and I

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Speaker 2: think it's for worse. This is the direction we've gone

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Speaker 2: with our culture, where it would have been beyond unheard

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Speaker 2: of to take that point of view as a talk

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Speaker 2: show host back in the day. You just you would

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Speaker 2: not make your preferences that open, no, because it was

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Speaker 2: seen bad for business. It was bad for business, and

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Speaker 2: I think also just seen as not the correct way

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Speaker 1: You're right, it's on gentlemanly and overly aggressive and just

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Speaker 1: mean to other Americans who disagree with you.

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Speaker 2: But if you want to be successful, now, I suggest

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Speaker 2: you do what Stephen Colbert does because he gets great

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Speaker 2: ratings with that. And so that leads us to this

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Speaker 2: and the point that Kamala Harris, while doing a media

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Speaker 2: certainly more than she normally gets, she's doing she's going

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Speaker 2: to all friendly venues. I mean only to the point

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Speaker 2: that she did Oprah Winfrey. Oprah Winfrey spoke at her convention.

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Speaker 2: She did Kristin Welker. Kristen Welker had come out and

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Speaker 2: said she endorses her. Howard Stern endorses her. She's gone

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Speaker 2: on Howard Stern. She went on the View. Of course,

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Speaker 2: the views all in love with her, and she went

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Speaker 2: on Colbert, and you just heard how Colbert handled it.

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Speaker 2: On The View yesterday, she was asked a question, is

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Speaker 2: there anything you would do different than what Joe Biden didn't?

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Speaker 2: She passed on that. She said no, which seems crazy.

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Speaker 2: Has the change candidate? Yes, it's crazy, And then Colbert

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Speaker 2: asked the same question last night.

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Speaker 3: Polling shows that a lot of people, especially independent voters,

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Speaker 3: really want this to be a change election, and that

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Speaker 3: they tend to break for you in terms of thinking

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Speaker 3: about change, you are a member of the president administration

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Speaker 3: under a Harris administration, what would the major changes be

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Speaker 3: and what would say the same?

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Speaker 4: Sure, well, I mean I'm obviously not Joe Biden, and

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Speaker 4: so that would be one change. But also I think

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Speaker 4: it's important to say with you know, twenty eight days ago,

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Speaker 2: Okay, so she decided not to answer the question again.

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Speaker 2: We got a little more coming up here, but that

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Speaker 2: is interesting. Mark Cowpern made the point in his newsletter

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Speaker 2: that you generally you get these big opportunities to be

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Speaker 2: on big shows and get a big audience. This is

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Speaker 2: your gonna get their message out. Here's we're going to

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Speaker 2: score some points, move the ball down the fields. It's

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Speaker 2: an opportunity to get your message out without having to

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Speaker 2: spend a ton of money. You got all that money

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Speaker 2: that you're having to spend on advertisements to try to

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Speaker 2: say something. Here you get to say it for free.

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Speaker 2: And she had the opportunity to say something, and she

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Speaker 2: making no news with all these interviews, So why do them?

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Speaker 2: I mean, they're not making any news unless your only

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Speaker 2: they're making no new suspect that may be, but go on,

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Speaker 2: they're making no news, So it would seem that their

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Speaker 2: goal is to not f up. Their only goal is

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Speaker 2: to get out of there without doing damage, which is

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Speaker 2: a hell of a way to be a candidate. I

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Speaker 2: can't think of any winning candidates that have done that.

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Speaker 2: Maybe Joe Biden, but that was that weird COVID year,

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Speaker 2: so it was slightly different. I'm not sure it would

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Speaker 2: have worked if it hadn't been for COVID. Well, he

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, So he was never peppered with the why

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Speaker 1: don't you talk to anybody who's gonna ask you any

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Speaker 2: Trump asked answers questions, hard questions all the time. Obama,

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Speaker 2: They go on these shows and they would make news,

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Speaker 2: they'd say things, they'd promote their thing. She is in

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Speaker 2: the View and on Colbert. If these were prepared answers

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Speaker 2: that's where her campaign is based out of. If these

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Speaker 2: were ad libbed answers, heaven help Wilmington. Either way. If

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Speaker 2: this was your strategy, oh my god. If this was

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Speaker 2: not your strategy, oh my god.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: If you gave us ten minutes to sit in a

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Speaker 2: I could certainly come up with three or four.

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Speaker 2: I would start with, well, if you haven't spent four

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Speaker 2: doing it right. And here's what we've learned. And then yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know, I had a couple of things makes.

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Speaker 1: Exactly or even I mean, this is unfair, but it

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Speaker 1: it's bull crap, it's dishonest, but at least it's an answer.

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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, God helped Wilmington. She's utterly incapable of

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Speaker 1: even the most hackneyed stock political you know, buckets of

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Speaker 2: Well, her first swing added on the View yesterday was

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Speaker 5: Well, if anything, would you have done something differently than

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Speaker 5: President Biden during the past four years.

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Speaker 4: There is not a thing that comes to mind in

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Speaker 2: So that is incredible. Yeah, that is incredible. There's not

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Speaker 1: And it's not that she was unable to come up

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there are only two options. They didn't prepare,

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Speaker 1: Or even something like, well, remember when we took office,

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Speaker 1: And instead, I can't think of anything.

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Speaker 2: So last time in Colbert she's asked the question again,

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Speaker 4: Think about the significance of what this next generation of

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Speaker 4: leadership looks like were I to be elected president, it

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Speaker 4: is about Frankly, I love the American people, and I

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Speaker 4: believe in our country. I love that it is our

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Speaker 4: character and nature to be an ambitious people. You know,

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Speaker 4: we have aspirations, we have dreams, are we have incredible

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Speaker 4: and build upon the success we've achieved in a way

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Speaker 4: named it as creating an opportunity economy.

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Speaker 2: Man, I believe Americans have maps. Uh yeah, got her

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Speaker 2: believe in the aspirations and people have dreams.

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Speaker 1: And wow, boy, that was that was some vapid garbage.

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Speaker 2: If she wins, which right now it is a coin flip.

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Speaker 2: If she wins, uh, we'll never hear this stuff. But

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Speaker 2: if she loses, people will start pointing fingers and we'll

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Speaker 2: hear pretty quickly. Yeah. We coached her up like crazy,

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Speaker 4: You know, we we have aspirations, we have dreams.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what you don't have is like well structured sentences.

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Speaker 1: if she were to lose. Well, roll the dice with Trump.

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm I'm telling you now on a totally

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Speaker 1: So we were talking about the CBS story in both

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Speaker 1: Hours two and three where Tony Decouple dared to ask

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Speaker 1: just absolutely stemmed to stern packed full of bias.

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Speaker 1: with and the rest of it, I'd missed one aspect

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Speaker 1: of it. One CBS reporter Jan Crawford, who's been their

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Speaker 1: she said, I am now a huge Jan Crawford fan.

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Speaker 2: Oh really can't wait to bring that to cool among

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Speaker 2: other things. And Tesla has just unveiled their version of

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Speaker 2: a ROBOTAXI remember they're the they're the ones that made

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Speaker 2: electric cars even somewhat viable. Maybe they'll make robo because

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Speaker 2: the whole training dogs thing didn't work out.

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Speaker 1: Weird.

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Speaker 2: They getting weird fast. Stay here. I will read the

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Speaker 2: new Bob Woodword book, which comes out in five days.

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Speaker 2: I think jd Vance told me he was a hack.

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Speaker 2: I won't read it. He's definitely not a hack. The

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Speaker 2: hack thing that happens with Bob Woodward books is the

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Speaker 2: leaks that come out to promote it, which are always

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Speaker 2: very misrepresentative respirat. They don't represent well the book in

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Speaker 2: its totality when it comes out. But probably talk more

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Speaker 1: Now. Given Adrian Rourke, the News had there given her

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Speaker 5: I mean I know I didn't was not aware that

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Speaker 5: people had reached out to you or Wendy. I wish

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Speaker 5: that I had to say a great job, Tony or

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Speaker 5: you know, way to not allow a one sited account

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Speaker 5: on a deeply complex issue be presented on our network,

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Speaker 5: which is a disservice to our viewers. I didn't know

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Speaker 5: that that was something I needed to do, but Jef,

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Speaker 5: I would very much welcome the opportunity.

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Speaker 2: To have that conversation. Thank you. We will have that

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Speaker 2: right after this.

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Speaker 5: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Persolutely on industry source said Crawford has quote balls of

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Speaker 1: steel and as one of the most respected journalists that CBS.

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Speaker 1: He added, it's disgraceful that management chose not to answer

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Speaker 1: her question in front of the whole group on the call.

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Speaker 2: Unless you are turning the page toward the new journalism,

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Speaker 2: which is about advocacy, You choose a side and you

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Speaker 2: advocate advocate for it. That's your job. And I don't

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Speaker 2: know if that manager bel leaves that, but I think

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Speaker 2: she believes all of her young people believe it. And

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Speaker 2: yet she, as I said, she framed the entire thing

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Speaker 2: with the traditional ethics.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then when Jan Crawford said, well the traditional

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Speaker 1: ethics Tony fulfilled in spades four stars.

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Speaker 2: I think, well we should talk privately. I see the

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Speaker 2: conundrum there. I guess you can't say it out loud.

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Speaker 2: So it is the new journalism that may take over.

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Speaker 2: Maybe already has most places. But maybe you can't take

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Speaker 2: a good decisions, son, but maybe you can't say it

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Speaker 2: out loud. Hanson just said in my ear that manager

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Speaker 2: is seething right now. Yeah. When a manager says to you,

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Speaker 2: let's have this conversation afterwards in private, they're probably very

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Speaker 2: unhappy that you will.

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Speaker 1: Because you've exposed me as a lying hypocrite, right and

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Speaker 1: you've exposed me as somebody not only a hypocrite, but

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Speaker 1: is in violation of the very principles I'm spouting at

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Speaker 1: the moment.

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Speaker 2: I think this is fascinating. It's happened at the Washington Post,

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Speaker 2: It's happened in the New York Times. You're hearing it,

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Speaker 2: getting to hear it at CBS News. Who's gonna win out?

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Speaker 2: Is it gonna be the no journalism is supposed to

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Speaker 2: get to the truth, or is journalism supposed to advocate

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Speaker 2: for a position who's gonna win out in the end.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't like our chances. I just

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Speaker 2: want to I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Is there a GoFundMe for jan Crawford or can I

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Speaker 1: kiss her or give her a high five or a

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Speaker 1: buy stock or something. I just I so appreciate her

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Speaker 1: courage and eloquence in defense of the very freaking principles.

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Speaker 1: Do you think MAYBELD Adrian Rourke was droning on about, well,

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Speaker 1: we get an interesting text from somebody said, you guys

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Speaker 1: obviously have never been managers of large groups of people.

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Speaker 1: What that person is trying to do is deal with

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Speaker 1: a very hostile set of employees underneath her, and you know,

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Speaker 1: figure out a way to get them to work together. Okay,

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Speaker 1: maybe I don't know.

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Speaker 2: It seemed like on this particular topic, you got to

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Speaker 2: choose a side, you got to choose a direction. You

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Speaker 2: can't there's no bringing it together. You're either going to

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Speaker 2: do journalism the way it's always been or at least

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Speaker 2: for the last seventy five years, or not. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I would say to that person, I see your point,

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Speaker 1: and I appreciate it. I get what you're trying to

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Speaker 1: say you have to calm things down before you solve problems.

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Speaker 1: But I don't believe that Ms Rourke was actually trying

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Speaker 1: to do that. I think she was giving into the

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Speaker 1: worst impulses of her mob of you know, woke employees

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Speaker 1: are going to burn the place to the ground. You can't.

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Speaker 1: At some point you have to make a stand. Although

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Speaker 1: again your point is well taken.

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Speaker 2: So do you think Jan Crawford doesn't know that, For instance,

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Speaker 2: Columbia Journalism School, maybe the most respected journalism school in America,

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Speaker 2: has decided that advocacy journalism is the new way.

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Speaker 1: Well, I think I think she's one hundred percent acquainted

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Speaker 1: with it, like I said, and that was that was

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Speaker 1: the reason I went to Pains to point out that

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Speaker 1: she used the very principles the Miss Rourke was expressing.

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Speaker 1: She met her with her own verbiage and challenged her.

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Speaker 2: Why do you think, why do you think the boss

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Speaker 2: didn't say it, doesn't say it out loud? Why do

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Speaker 2: you think places don't say it out loud? Well, if

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Speaker 2: that is the direction journalism is going, advocacy journalism, and

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Speaker 2: the young people want it that way. Just because you

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Speaker 2: think you'd turn off everybody over the age of forty five.

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Speaker 1: Well, keeping in mind the contribution of the texture there

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Speaker 1: we were taking Adrian and Rourke at a word that

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Speaker 1: she thinks she's being unbiased. I think that person's point

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Speaker 1: was she was just trying to defuse the young man

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Speaker 1: acts well and Gail although Gail King she's friends with

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Speaker 1: Coats and a far lefty and a racialist activist and

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Speaker 1: the rest of it. I think it wasn't just young

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Speaker 1: woke staffers. I think it was the very liberal heavyweights

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Speaker 1: of CBS News who are on the war path, and

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Speaker 1: she's It could be Rourke knew she was threading an

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Speaker 1: impossible needle, but was just trying to diffuse the anger

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Speaker 1: of the lefty.

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Speaker 2: Heavyweights because she had no other choice.

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Speaker 1: She couldn't win that fight. I don't know yet.

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Speaker 2: I'm disturbed by the state of mainstream journalism. Everything woke

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Speaker 2: turns to Now. A lot of you would say, oh,

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Speaker 2: who cares. I don't read the New York Times, I

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Speaker 2: don't watch CBS Evening News. I get all my news

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Speaker 2: from And then you would name a bunch of things

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Speaker 2: I've probably never even heard of. Sure, but I don't

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Speaker 2: know if that's gonna work force where everybody's got their

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Speaker 2: own sources. You don't know if that's going to work.

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Speaker 2: I don't. As I've often said, we'll all find out together. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we will. We'll finish strong next The hurricane still has

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Speaker 2: a possibility to be a major factor in the presidential election,

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Speaker 2: depending how the relief efforts continue in North Carolina and

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Speaker 2: Georgia and Tennessee, and also with Milton Barren down on Florida.

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Speaker 2: The mayor there in Tampa, who yesterday said if you stay,

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Speaker 2: you're gonna die, today said, if you plan to ride

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Speaker 2: out the hurricane, that's a coffin you're in in your home.

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Speaker 1: Well, finding a new way to express it. Okay, I

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Speaker 1: guess so. So he's probably damn close to right, given

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Speaker 1: the predicted storm surge.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I haven't been paying that close attention. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: There are many examples, I think when they have asked

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Speaker 2: for these evacuations, I've always thought I'd stay, depending on

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Speaker 2: my lifestyle. If I got kids would be a different

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Speaker 2: calculation than if I'm by myself and all that sort.

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Speaker 1: Of stuff, and you're eleven cats, of course, to protect them.

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Speaker 2: Milton expected to hit Florida with so much force. It

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Speaker 2: could change forever the coastline of Florida. Uh, the world's

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Speaker 2: worst influencer. This is a woman refusing to evacuate before

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Speaker 2: the hurricane who says she's okay with dying. Okay, nice,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna hit tonight the hurricane is in.

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Speaker 1: Go an hour inland and stay at the Holiday Inn.

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Speaker 2: Instead of dying. I don't think you could. At this point,

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Speaker 2: every hotel room is booked or closed. They have their

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Speaker 2: Tropicana field where the baseball team plays. It's full of cots.

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Speaker 2: Is it up high enough to not have the water

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Speaker 2: come in here? I suppose hard getting in the stadium.

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Speaker 1: I think I'd walk into the Holiday and knock on

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Speaker 1: every door, say hey, do you have two beds in there?

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Speaker 1: I'll give you two hundred bucks to let me sleep

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Speaker 1: here tonight. I'm a nice fella. A good conversation, you mean, like,

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Speaker 1: what do you want to talk about the room that

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Speaker 1: people are already in?

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Speaker 2: Yes, you're just gonna hope they like the looks together.

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Speaker 2: Hi'd eyeball them as well. Sure the wife thinks you're

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Speaker 2: hot or something.

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Speaker 1: Be sleeping on a cottona stadium.

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Speaker 2: Almost finish, Let's get ready final thoughts with Armstrong and Getty.

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Speaker 2: Here's your host for final thoughts, Joe.

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Speaker 1: Gimmy, let's get a final thought from everybody on the

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Speaker 1: crew to wrap up the day. Michaelangelo or technical director

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Speaker 1: lead us off my yeah very quickly.

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Speaker 2: How many TikTok videos are we going to see?

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Speaker 1: If people trying to write out Milton or you know,

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Speaker 1: try to get followers that way.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if this one's gonna be one of those.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it is. Now.

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Speaker 1: Let's Darwin at work. Katie Greener is seemed to use

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Speaker 1: woman as a final thought.

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Speaker 2: Katie, I don't know why.

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Speaker 1: The image of you going door to door to holiday

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Speaker 1: and asking if you could sleep in people's rooms.

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Speaker 2: Just made me laugh so hard. Mind if I sleep

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Speaker 2: with your family? Yeah, I got an extra buff kid.

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Speaker 2: It's a family of four. I'm gonna say, hey, sorry

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Speaker 2: to Boby. I'll move on. Ye just looking for place

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Speaker 2: to sleep? Jack final thought, I haven't heard it yet.

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Speaker 2: Howard Stern gushes over Kamala Harrison interview and laments SNL

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Speaker 2: making fun of her. Okay, fine, Stern.

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Speaker 1: The great rebel, the great non follower of rules, is

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Speaker 1: now just a boot licking lackey of Jopy dishonest politicians.

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Speaker 2: Didn't think I'd see that day, Armstrong and Getty wrare

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Speaker 2: I pick up another grueling four hour workday.

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Speaker 1: So many people would think, so little time. Go to

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Speaker 1: armstrong in giddy dot com. A lot of great hot

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Speaker 1: links there for you to read. Watch et Cetera drop

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Speaker 1: his note mail bag at armstrong giddy dot com, Florida.

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Speaker 2: Good luck, see you tomorrow. God bless America. I'm Strong

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Speaker 2: and Getty.

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Speaker 1: It's one hundred on the crazy meter, even the particular

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Speaker 1: field and particularly of harsh attacks.

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Speaker 2: We have aspirations, we have dreams, and I say this

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Speaker 2: a lot. So let's go with the bine. You just

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Speaker 2: put on the full clown outfit. Put on the.

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Speaker 1: Red shoes, put on the nose of the wig, and

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Speaker 1: the weird jumpsuit.

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Speaker 2: Clowns wear wear pants, clowns fit. Thanks all very much,

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Speaker 2: Armstrong and Getty