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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, a twenty six year old

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Speaker 1: Yale graduate student set to be married gunned down. Why

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Speaker 1: what do we know now? I'm Nancy Grace. This is

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us here at

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Speaker 1: Fox Nation and Serious XM twenty eleven. Listen to this.

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Speaker 1: I heard a gunshot, a woman's scream, several shots after that.

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Speaker 1: A neighbor recalls the harrowing details of what occurred at

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Speaker 1: the corner of Lawrence and Nicole Street at eight thirty

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Speaker 1: Saturday night. Waited about a minute, came out and saw

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Speaker 1: the bodyline there. The decease has been identified as twenty

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Speaker 1: six year old Kevin geongg of West Haven, Yo University

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Speaker 1: confirmed he was a graduate student in their School of Environs.

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Speaker 1: He was a member of the class of twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 1: Multiple witnesses confirm hearing between three to six shots. I'm

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Speaker 1: still shaking off about it all night. We're on disbelief

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Speaker 1: the entire Yale community in many groups and organizations. Jong

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Speaker 1: was a part of her carrying that disbelief as well.

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Speaker 1: Think about it. This twenty six year old Yale grad

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Speaker 1: student set to graduate this month, but instead shot down

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Speaker 1: multiple times in the street unarmed, as if he was chased.

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Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, what do we know about Kevin.

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Speaker 1: I know that he earned a degree at University of

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Speaker 1: Washington environmental Studies. He was very close to completing his

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Speaker 1: graduate degree. That's not easy. A devout Christian member Trinity

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Speaker 1: another grad student. In fact, their wedding was set. That

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Speaker 1: was not meant to be when shots rang out. I'm

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Speaker 1: just trying to imagine in that small college town that was.

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Speaker 1: Like you were just hearing from our friends at Fox

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Speaker 1: sixty one. Now take a listen again to our friends

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Speaker 1: at Fox. Police say they received multiple nine one one

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Speaker 1: of Nash Street and Lauren Street. The victim twenty six

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Speaker 1: year old Kevin Jiang. He was shot multiple times and

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Speaker 1: died on scene, according to police. Died on the scene,

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Speaker 1: Yellow CBS two. A sense of shock and sadness has

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Speaker 1: settled on the Yale University community after the Saturday night's

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Speaker 1: shooting death of grad student Kevin Gian. I don't have

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Speaker 1: a memory of him where he wasn't smiling and happy,

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Speaker 1: and even if you didn't agree with all of his views,

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Speaker 1: Eight thirty Saturday night, residents in the East Rock neighborhood

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Speaker 1: heard the distinct sound of gunfire. One man spoke to

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Speaker 1: me off camera. I heard like around seven rapid gunshots,

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Speaker 1: Police say someone shot Young multiple times. He was found

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Speaker 1: near his car, which had rear end damage. One possible

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Speaker 1: mode of police were exploring violent escalation after a road

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Speaker 1: rage incident. We're exploring every possibility, including whether or not

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Speaker 1: there was an accident that precipitated this incident, whether or

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Speaker 1: not it was a road rage. We do have very

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Speaker 1: specific leads that we're exploring or we're not ruling anything

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Speaker 1: out at this time. Joining me an all star panel

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Speaker 1: to make sense of what we are knowing right now

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Speaker 1: me at Jacksonville Dale Carson, former FBI, now lawyer and

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Speaker 1: author of Arrest Proof Yourself. Renowned psychologist doctor Jory Krausen, Faculty,

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Speaker 1: Saint Leo University, consultant and author of Operation SOS, doctor

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Speaker 1: Michelle Dupree, forensic Pathologists, medical examiner, detective and author of

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Speaker 1: Homicide Investigation Field Guide. V Brandt joining me, former US

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Speaker 1: Marshall Service International Investigations Branch, author of Flying Solo, Top

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Speaker 1: of the World on Amazon, and you can find him

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Speaker 1: at v Brandt dot com. But first to Alexis Terreschuk,

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Speaker 1: Crime online dot com investigative reporter. I want you to

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Speaker 1: describe the scene from me the night that Kevin was

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Speaker 1: shot down. I find it very significant. Kevin was unarmed,

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Speaker 1: there was no robbery, there was no sex attack, and

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Speaker 1: his car had been recently, very recently rear ended. Described

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Speaker 1: to me what happened. And this was right at the

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Speaker 1: Yale University campus. Correct, Yes, this is right by Yale

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Speaker 1: in New Haven, Connecticut. This is February sixth, twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 1: the very end, deal Carson joining me, former fed with

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Speaker 1: the FBI, now lawyer and Jacksonville Dale. Did you hear

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Speaker 1: Anytime you shoot somebody in the face and you're making

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Speaker 1: sure that they're dead, there's something going on in that

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Speaker 1: The shooting in the face, directly in the face is

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Speaker 1: really not that common. That's that's very personal, okay, Just

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Speaker 1: homicide scenes. Typically when we hear someone being shot in

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Speaker 1: Shoots opened the door and comes in, guns the blazing.

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Speaker 1: But little did he know her dad was a former

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Speaker 1: cup I think was in New Jersey and gunned him

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Speaker 1: down instead. So what you're saying about the power of

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Speaker 1: social media, she was a TikTok star, That's what she was.

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Speaker 1: Ava MAJORI yes, yes, yes, I mean, you're absolutely right.

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Speaker 1: Deale Carson and doctor Jerry crosson, Well, the man hunt

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Speaker 1: is on. Take a listen to Erica at twenty one.

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Speaker 1: Jim William CBS two All the Run tonight. The man

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Speaker 1: now wanted for murdering a Yale student from Chicago. Police

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Speaker 1: in Connecticut issued in arrest warrant for Kenwanpan. The My

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Speaker 1: Team graduate is considered armed and dangerous. Pen has wanted

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Speaker 1: for the February sixth murder of Yale student Kevin Jang.

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Speaker 1: Investigators say Jang's killing maya stemmed from road rage. Those

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Speaker 1: who knew Jang here in the Chicago area are anxious

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Speaker 1: for and arrest. It will give some of us who

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Speaker 1: are upset with what happened to Kevin a little bit

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Speaker 1: of closure. Pan is believed to be somewhere in the Atlanta,

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Speaker 1: Georgia area. US marshals are offering up to a ten

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Speaker 1: thousand dollar reward to help catch him. That was not

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Speaker 1: the motive at all. It was not road rage. Listen

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Speaker 1: to our cut twenty two our friend Erica Arius at

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Speaker 1: Fox sixty one. US marshals have now secured an international

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Speaker 1: ward for the man wanted for the death of a

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Speaker 1: Yale grad student. Kevin Jang was killed two months ago,

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Speaker 1: back on February six, and now that we know, US

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Speaker 1: marshals have secured an Interpol red notice for this man here,

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Speaker 1: twenty nine year old Change Swan Pond. Now he was

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Speaker 1: just a person of interest in the case, but he

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Speaker 1: is now a suspect and we're told he will be

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Speaker 1: charged with murder once he's tracked down. It's unclear if

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Speaker 1: investigators are sure he is out of the country or

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Speaker 1: where he may be heading. He is from China. Potter

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Speaker 1: was last seen less than a week after John's death

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Speaker 1: in Georgia. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace straight out to

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Speaker 1: IRV Brand, former US Marshall's Service International Investigations, author of

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Speaker 1: Flying Solo Top of the World on Amazon or Brand.

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Speaker 1: What exactly is an international warrant and how is it

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Speaker 1: different from any other arrestairant. Well, the arrestairrant, once it's

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Speaker 1: adopted by the US Marshal Service, would go to their representative,

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Speaker 1: that Interpulse and they would immediately do what's called the

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Speaker 1: dissemination of the warrant. It looks like a red notice,

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Speaker 1: it has the Interpole logo, and they would send it

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Speaker 1: out to whatever countries they suspect the suspect may be

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Speaker 1: fleeing to. Then while this is going on, they would

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Speaker 1: work through the Assistant United States Attorney to obtain a

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Speaker 1: red notice to be published to all member countries at Interpol,

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Speaker 1: especially in this case, he has such tight connections in China. Correct. Correct,

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Speaker 1: It would be a high priority case, and you know

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Speaker 1: they would send out the disseminations immediately, even before the

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Speaker 1: red notice was published, so countries would have a warranting

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Speaker 1: that this was coming that a red notice would would

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Speaker 1: follow once it was signed off by the legal section

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Speaker 1: of the Interpulse. Her view is reportedly spotted in Atlanta,

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Speaker 1: and I can't help but believe he was trying to

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Speaker 1: leave the hot spot the northeastern states in the US

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Speaker 1: and get to the Atlanta Airport now for its international flights.

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Speaker 1: That's I mean, that would be a good assumption. Also,

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Speaker 1: when you got to remember, in a fugitive's mind, they

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Speaker 1: figure they're the center of attention of the entire world.

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Speaker 1: They're paranoid. To go to an international airport like Hartsfield

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Speaker 1: International that has such a law enforcement presence would take

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Speaker 1: someone with a mendous amount of nerve, you know, to

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Speaker 1: walk in there and walk past all those police officers

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Speaker 1: to go through this security checkpoint. It may have been

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Speaker 1: his intention. He may have pulled in to the parking

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Speaker 1: lot and hearts Field and changed his mind, you know,

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Speaker 1: just figuring I'm going to get caught if I walk

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Speaker 1: into this area. Exactly How hard is it or brand

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Speaker 1: to get the states, the US states to cooperate with

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Speaker 1: each other when you know your murder suspect is on

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Speaker 1: the run and crossing state lines. Well, that's where the

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Speaker 1: US Marshal Service comes in, and that's where they thrive.

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Speaker 1: That's what they're best at. They have seven regional Fugitive

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Speaker 1: task Forces that cover the United States. Then they also

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Speaker 1: have multiple offices and every judicial district, every one of

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Speaker 1: the ninety four judicial districts in the United States, and

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Speaker 1: their fugitive investigative network is extensive, I mean the largest

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Speaker 1: in the world, and you know, made up of task

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Speaker 1: force officers, state, local, federal, tribal police, I mean everywhere.

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Speaker 1: So you know, once the Marshal Service gets their hands

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Speaker 1: on it, the resources at their disposal as unparalleled. It's unmatched.

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Speaker 1: And I've always said about fugitives, you don't want to

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Speaker 1: get the undivided attention of the United States Marshals. Now

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Speaker 1: you don't know, you don't. I first learned a lot

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Speaker 1: about the US Marshals when my investigator and the Fulton

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Speaker 1: County DA's office, Robert McMichael, left our office, and I

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Speaker 1: loved him so much. He had an NFL ring. He's

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Speaker 1: this huge guy, and we went everywhere together in my

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Speaker 1: first year or so at the office investigating cases. He

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Speaker 1: went on to become the US Marshal for the Northern

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Speaker 1: District of Georgia, and when I learned what he did

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Speaker 1: for the US Marshal Service. It's amazing the power in

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Speaker 1: the reach of the US Marshals. Well, this guy, this

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Speaker 1: guy on the run. Pan was now idiot, but listen

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Speaker 1: to our cut twenty nine NBC. After a looting capture

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Speaker 1: for three months, Shing Shuan Pawn was described by prosecutors

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Speaker 1: as a danger to society and a serious flight risk.

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Speaker 1: New Haven Superior Court Judge Brian Fisher agreed and sent

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Speaker 1: a very strong message setting bond at twenty million dollars.

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Speaker 1: Pawn is accused of murdering Yale student and US Army

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Speaker 1: veteran Kevin Jang on the evening of February sixth, Please

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Speaker 1: say they found Jang faced down in a New Haven

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Speaker 1: street with multiple gunshot wounds to the head. Paon was

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Speaker 1: identified as a person of interest and pursuit stretched from

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Speaker 1: Connecticut to Alabama. Prosecutors say when Pon was arrested Friday,

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Speaker 1: he was in possession of nineteen thousand dollars in cash,

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Speaker 1: seven cell phones, seven simcards, and his father's passport. While

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Speaker 1: the state asked for bond to be set at fifty

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Speaker 1: million dollars, the judge said it at twenty million. Alexis

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Speaker 1: Terscha joining me crime online dot Com investigative reporter. It

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Speaker 1: sounds like Scott Peterson all over again. Remember how Peterson

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Speaker 1: had all that cash, fake his brother's driver's license, all

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Speaker 1: sorts of camping gear, a ton of viagra. I guess

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Speaker 1: he's going to need that on the run. But here

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Speaker 1: you've got Pam with nineteen grand, seven cell phone, seven simcars,

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Speaker 1: and his father's passport. Totally on the run and with

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Speaker 1: a passport. It means he was going to try and

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Speaker 1: leave the country. No wonder his mail's at twenty million.

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Speaker 1: That's exactly what it. And remember Scott also had bleached

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Speaker 1: his hair blonde, as if he thought that that little

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Speaker 1: surfer haird could stop people from recognizing him after his

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Speaker 1: face was flush all over the world for murdering his wife.

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Speaker 1: But that was the thing was on. He was hiding out.

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Speaker 1: It is in months since he shot Jang and he

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Speaker 1: was it appeared with his father's passport that he was

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Speaker 1: going to flee the country. Now they want a bond reduction.

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Speaker 1: Pan has already been arraigned, but he will come back

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Speaker 1: into court and the days to come he will give

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Speaker 1: a formal entry of a not guilty plea and we

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Speaker 1: are headed to trial the arrest warrant reveals a lot

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Speaker 1: about the evidence they've got so far against paying Pan.

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Speaker 1: What do we know so far, alexis? What is the evidence?

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Speaker 1: So much evidence? Let's start with the scene. They have

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Speaker 1: the bullet, however, they don't have the guns. But what

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Speaker 1: they do have are multiple witnesses, so many people, and

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Speaker 1: there is security footage that shows the initial car accidents,

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Speaker 1: the snow accident, I would call it a crash. He

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Speaker 1: goes and gets sur rental car and we have those

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Speaker 1: documents in surveillance video that was laid another car reported

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Speaker 1: lost or stolen. He's using a different car than his

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Speaker 1: own or anything connected to him. It was no accident.

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Speaker 1: The video shows us and not alexis Toures chuck. He

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Speaker 1: intentionally rammed Kevin from behind? Yes, it does. And then

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Speaker 1: it shows Kevin getting out of the car. I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: that's not true. You cannot see Kevin get out of

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Speaker 1: the car because they move a little bit and it

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Speaker 1: moves out of the scene front the camera lens, so

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Speaker 1: but you can see the initial crash. So then they

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Speaker 1: have all of the DNA evidence there. Do you know

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Speaker 1: what it's found in the car that Pon drove away? Blood.

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Speaker 1: There is blood in the middle console because he's shooting somebody,

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Speaker 1: you know, three times fired eight eight times. He has

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Speaker 1: blood on him and they find his blood, Kevin's blood

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Speaker 1: inside the car. Also in the car they find a mask.

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Speaker 1: Remember again COVID nineteen he had one point had had

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Speaker 1: a mask on. The mask has ponds DNA on it.

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Speaker 1: To doctor Michel d pre former forensic pathologists, medical exam

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Speaker 1: amer doctor Dupree, shot multiple times bleeding out on the

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Speaker 1: street five hundred feet while his fiance from his fiance

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Speaker 1: waiting inside. How long did he live? Remember he took

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Speaker 1: the first shot and then according to police, pan comes

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Speaker 1: up and shoots him in the face. What did he

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Speaker 1: endure before death? Nancy, It's likely that he was terrified.

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Speaker 1: The first shot brought him down. He knows what happened.

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Speaker 1: Then he sees the shooter standing over him. He is

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Speaker 1: He's terrified, he's fearful, he's scared. It likely took him

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Speaker 1: probably a minute or two until he lost consciousness and

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Speaker 1: then eventually bled out. Just think of what Kevin's mother

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Speaker 1: and fiance are going through. This was her only child.

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Speaker 1: To think of him dying in the street, slowly losing

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Speaker 1: consciousness before he shot in the face over one, I

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Speaker 1: for one, cannot wait for the trial to commence. Nancy

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Speaker 1: Gray's Crime Story, signing off goodbye,