1 00:00:01,160 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 1: Welcome into the lounge presented by Draft Kings. We are 2 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:08,559 Speaker 1: in the seat Geek Studio reacting to the Ravens first 3 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: round draft pick of Zay Flowers, plus of course the 4 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: Lamar news still fresh, already reacted. 5 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 2: I've gotta react some more. 6 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 3: Nice, slow, relaxing night one of the NFL Draft, Right, yeah, 7 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 3: nothing going on, Nochielbilly. 8 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, there weren't any trades or anything, anything announcements. 9 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 2: Wild day, wild day for. 10 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:32,200 Speaker 1: The Ravens, but a very very good one for sure. 11 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:37,160 Speaker 1: Uh So, Zay Flowers is the Ravens pick number twenty 12 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 1: two overall, get the wide receiver. I mean, I love 13 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: love Day Flowers. I hate that you hit on your 14 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: your pick. 15 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:48,239 Speaker 3: I was just gonna say the biggest news I was. 16 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 3: You know, we both basically had to get the joke 17 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 3: out of the way. The elefant in the room. My 18 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 3: joke was going to be the biggest news of the day. 19 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 3: So that you hit you was that I hit on 20 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 3: my side round mock. 21 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 2: With day Flowers just my first round pick. There's been 22 00:00:59,360 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 2: a few of them. 23 00:00:59,880 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 3: Now I've hit the I hit PQ. I went going 24 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 3: back would mean more than two, right, Yeah, there's been 25 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 3: multiple who's the other one, you know, who was one 26 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 3: the ultimate year in the first round. Yeah, this was 27 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 3: the ultimate year going back aways here and this draft 28 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 3: in turn out rail was was I hit Matt Elam 29 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 3: and Arthur Brown back to back? All that wasn't an 30 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 3: Alzheimer that I nailed, it nailed. I nailed the prediction. 31 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:30,759 Speaker 3: That's how Mara prediction. Yeah. But and I think there 32 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 3: was one other that I'm not thinking of anyway, that's 33 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:33,119 Speaker 3: not really the point. 34 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 2: But definitely was fired up about that. 35 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 3: And I got to gloat right in your face for 36 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:40,039 Speaker 3: about thirty seconds when it came out. Then and then 37 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 3: and then and then we just you know, but to 38 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 3: break down the playing seconds, that's really the shame of it, 39 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 3: is like you get. 40 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 2: Thirty seconds to work, you get three seconds. I know, 41 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 2: but the player. 42 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 3: Honestly, the reason I did mock him to the Ravens 43 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 3: is I thought about what they had and what they needed, 44 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 3: and I felt like Zave Flowers gave them something that 45 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 3: they that they was a really good fit. Like the 46 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 3: way he plays the game, what he would bring explosive 47 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 3: potential home run, potential, great run after catch, great speed 48 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 3: to take the top off a defense, can be used 49 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 3: in versatile ways, can play inside, can play it like 50 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 3: he just he just from a from a fit standpoint, 51 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 3: I thought checked all the boxes for what the Ravens 52 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:24,519 Speaker 3: would really want in a wide receiver. 53 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've really loved say Flowers through this entire process. 54 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: I just uh, and this is gonna sound kind of lofty, 55 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: And I just texted this to my uncle actually and cousin. 56 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 3: Uh. 57 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: He reminds me of a blend of Steve Smith Senior 58 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 1: and Antonio Brown, but with less crazy, you know, like 59 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 1: plays that chip on his shoulder like Steve. Yeah, but like, uh, 60 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:54,079 Speaker 1: you know, is really has this infectious smile and this 61 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: personality that like just like you know, Eric Costa said 62 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: to you is one of the best interviews he's ever 63 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,920 Speaker 1: had with the Prospect period, Like most impressive guys, with 64 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: his backstory and all that stuff. And I just really 65 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 1: like him as a player. I mean, you talk about 66 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 1: today's NFL and what it takes. It takes speed. He 67 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 1: has plenty of that four four two, I believe it is. 68 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:18,359 Speaker 1: It also really takes a lot of suddenness. I think 69 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: suddenness in today's NFL to uncover create space, you know, 70 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:26,119 Speaker 1: in the space game that Todd Monkin talks about. Zay 71 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 1: Flowers has a lot of that, I mean, kind of 72 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 1: whip routes and inside out stuff. I mean, the dude 73 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 1: is just extremely explosive and sudden. And I think that 74 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 1: no matter what size you come in, whatever size, the package, 75 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:40,839 Speaker 1: you know is that you come in if you can 76 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: be that, if you're that sudden, you can get open, right. 77 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 2: And so I've. 78 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: I've really liked Zay the player, the person throughout this 79 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: entire process, and I agree with you. 80 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 2: I think he matches. 81 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:56,839 Speaker 1: I would bet to say I like Zay Flowers more 82 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: than you like Flowers. 83 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 3: Well, I know you picked I picked him this. Look, 84 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 3: this is my opportunity to just relish. 85 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 2: And here's the thing. 86 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: When we came out of the Blackburn interview on the lounge, 87 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: those of us, both of us looked at EA show. 88 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 2: We were like, this sounds like they really like say too. 89 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, It's like, well, sometimes sometimes over the course of 90 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 3: a process you can kind of like in hearing from 91 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 3: Todd Munkin, you mentioned how we talked about space players, 92 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 3: and then when we did the interview with David Blackburn, 93 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 3: he talked about some of the similar things and. 94 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 1: The competitiveness and Palpa the dog, the kind of yeah. 95 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 3: Some of the intangible factors with him, and then like 96 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 3: the on field stuff with him was all just off 97 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 3: the charts, and in terms of what the Ravens want 98 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 3: to do offensively with Todd Munkin, like, there just seems 99 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 3: to be great synergy there. 100 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 2: So I really like Zay. 101 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 3: I think that he fits exactly what the Ravens need. 102 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 3: And then what also stands out to me is the 103 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 3: way that other players talk about him. Yep, you know, 104 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 3: like Marlon Humphrey spoke glowingly about him. And I talked 105 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 3: to Marlan during the week and I said, you know, 106 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 3: you know, who who do you got? 107 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 2: And he was like, I don't know. 108 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 3: You know. 109 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 2: I was like, I think it's going to My pick 110 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 2: was A Flowers and he's like. 111 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 3: You think he's going to be there, and yeah, I 112 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 3: don't know, we'll see, and then sure enough he is. 113 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 2: And I think I think that was you know, we 114 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 2: can get into this. 115 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 3: But like that, everyone always thinks all the Ravens could 116 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 3: trade back, and based on the players who were available 117 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 3: to the Ravens, you might think, okay, they could have 118 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:28,479 Speaker 3: traded back and had some good options to choose from. 119 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 1: But I think they basically the phone rang exactly, which 120 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 1: we had talked a lot about, like is the phone 121 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 1: going to ring? It did apparently now, but they like 122 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 1: a very good offer. 123 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, you never know how far back you can go 124 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 3: all that stuff, but they you only make that move 125 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:45,159 Speaker 3: if you feel like you're getting a good offer and 126 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 3: there's not a big discrepancy in the player that you're 127 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:49,479 Speaker 3: going to take at that spot versus who you would 128 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 3: get later. So clearly Jay Flowers is the best player 129 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:54,279 Speaker 3: on their board, and they felt really good about getting him. 130 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 1: So let's just go through kind of how it went 131 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 1: down for Ravens fans, just to review here since you're 132 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: probably it's past midnight right now. You're probably waking up 133 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: and listening to this one. So no wide receiver was 134 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 1: taken inside the top twenty. Yeah, first wide receiver off 135 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: the board is Jackson Smith and Jigba at number twenty 136 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 1: to the Seattle Seahawks, right, and like the further and 137 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 1: cornerbacks really wait a long time. Christian Gonzales didn't go 138 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: until after fifteen, like seventeen something like that. It was 139 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 1: late to the Patriots. You're seeing these corners and wide 140 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 1: receivers really falling. Tackles kind of went higher than some 141 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 1: people anticipated. There's four tackles off the board the Steelers 142 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 1: straight up to get Broderick Washed or Brodick Jones, who 143 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 1: was kind of the fourth and final top tier tackle. 144 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 1: So there are a lot of tackles went wide receiver's 145 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 1: corners are falling down the board and you're like, all right, 146 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: all right. You know there are a couple like surprising picks, 147 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:54,479 Speaker 1: you know, the Lions with a couple of them, you 148 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: know where didn't have them going ahead of the Ravens, 149 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 1: And so when the Ravens were on the clock, they 150 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 1: had Joey Porter, Junior Deontay Banks, Zay Flowers, Jordan Addison, 151 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: and Nolan Smith all available to them. Yeah, you're like, wow, 152 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: best case scenario here. And that's kind of to what 153 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: we were talking about. You know, Eric Costa did take the 154 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: phone call to see, like, like we said before the draft, 155 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: he's never going to say no topics if he feels 156 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: like he moved back and still get the guy he wanted. 157 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:25,679 Speaker 2: But the guy he wanted was Zay Flowers. 158 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: And I think from what it sounds like Eric Costa said, 159 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 1: was he wasn't so confident that they would still be 160 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: there or like somebody that he wanted just as much 161 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: or close to as much as they would be there 162 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: if he moved back. 163 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 3: Right, And so you just you take the guy. And 164 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 3: I also he made the point that a project. I 165 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 3: haven't heard them talk about this before, but they basically 166 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 3: give a project over the last week to their scouts 167 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 3: and they. 168 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 2: Say, you know, here's eight guys. 169 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 3: You know, here's the eight guys are probably gonna have 170 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 3: a chance to get look at him again, rank him right, 171 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 3: and basically everyone has Zave Flowers is number one on 172 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 3: that list, and so there just seemed to be this 173 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 3: consensus that built around him. And also I don't think 174 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 3: like I think the Steve Smith endorsement was not a 175 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 3: small factor here. Yeah, I agree, like Steve Smith talked 176 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 3: about Zay Flowers during his work as an NFL network 177 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 3: analyst and talked about how he really liked him. And 178 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 3: one thing that I've kind of stuck on with receivers 179 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 3: in recent years is like body control, that seems to 180 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 3: be such an important piece of the equation, and Steve 181 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 3: had it as well as anybody save Flowers has it. 182 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 3: And Steve talked really highly about in watching Zay, like 183 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 3: his body control of that suddenness that you mentioned, and 184 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 3: so Steve loved him. So Eric and Steve spent time 185 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,319 Speaker 3: at the combine. They talk about Zay Flowers. Steve tells 186 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 3: him that he loves him. Eric's like, I really like 187 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 3: him too, And if Steve saying that he loves him, 188 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:49,959 Speaker 3: that I mean something. I mean again, I just am 189 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 3: hearing from all these players that seem to really speak 190 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 3: highly of Marlin did, Odell Beckham did, Steve Smith did, 191 00:08:55,840 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 3: and like Steve when Cooper Cup came him out and 192 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:03,319 Speaker 3: Cooper Cup was a third round pick and Steve was 193 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 3: going on NFL Network and telling everybody he's my number 194 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 3: one receiver and the guy went in the third round. 195 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 3: So like he has an eye, Steve. That's what I'm saying. 196 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:14,559 Speaker 3: Steve has an eye for receiver talent. And I think 197 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 3: that endorsement carries some weight. 198 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree with that, and I think too, 199 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: there's just some other you know, the South Florida connection 200 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 1: with Lamar, you know, both being from South Florida. 201 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 2: I think that certainly helps. 202 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:30,319 Speaker 1: You know, he's one of fourteen kids, you know, first 203 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 1: one to go to college graduated when to graduate from college? Like, 204 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: the story there certainly appealed to the Ravens. 205 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 2: Just the person that you're getting. 206 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 1: It seemed like Lamar was really excited about the pick 207 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:48,080 Speaker 1: and had a little inside intel. Yeah, you know, he's 208 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: kind of like, I smell something good coming, you know, 209 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 1: I mean, what better lead than the Ravens gave Lamar 210 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 1: Jackson his flowers? 211 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 3: Yeah? 212 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 2: All right, of course, I mean was that an easier story? 213 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 2: It was okay, well done. I have to give Deshore credit. 214 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:03,319 Speaker 1: Sure, gave it to me, one of our interns here, 215 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 1: So tip of the hat to him. 216 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 2: Nice. 217 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 1: But anyway, Yeah, there's just a lot of connections there 218 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: that make this a really really good fit for the 219 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 1: Ravens at twenty two. 220 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:16,839 Speaker 2: Now, obviously we spent a. 221 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: Whole lot of time talking about DeAndre Hopkins, right, and 222 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 1: the possibility that the Ravens could trade for him. 223 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 2: I haven't been on Twitter. I was at the Ravens 224 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 2: press conference, but I haven't seen that he's been traded. Yeah, 225 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 2: I don't think he has been. I don't think he 226 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:28,839 Speaker 2: has been. 227 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 3: But given the way that today's gone, he's probably gonna 228 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 3: happen here in a couple hours gonna do another podcast. 229 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 230 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: So you know that, as I had said, that was 231 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:41,559 Speaker 1: part of the reason that I went corner first round, 232 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: and because I thought maybe the Ravens make that trade, 233 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: and obviously corner was a more pressing twenty twenty three 234 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 1: need you know, So the Ravens are going into Day 235 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: two now still needing a cornerback pretty badly. 236 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 2: I mean you would have to say, I mean. 237 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 1: Mark, you know there's you're not playing foo games this system. 238 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: There's a lot of ways to augment the Strosser. You 239 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 1: can bring Marcus Peters back. You could sign a free agent. 240 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 1: You know, there's reports that Rocky sin was in here visiting. 241 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: You could make a move there. You know, you you 242 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: have uh, you know, Jaylen Armor Davis. You know you 243 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 1: have Brandon Stevens, So you have some options there. But 244 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 1: still you would think cornerbacks at the top of the 245 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 1: list right now, and you're not going to get one 246 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 1: in the draft until the third round unless you're to make. 247 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 2: Some other trade that we don't know about. Who knows that. 248 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 2: Anything could happen, but it doesn't look like de hop 249 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 2: is happening. I can say that much. Yeah, it's certainly not. 250 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:42,679 Speaker 3: I mean, that would be really shocking because say you're 251 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 3: already added Odell Beckham, Nelson. 252 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 2: Adelaire. 253 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:50,199 Speaker 3: Stainer of all time, And yeah, I don't think that's 254 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 3: gonna happen. 255 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 2: I mean, I think we probably cross that off. 256 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:54,680 Speaker 3: I don't know that definitively, but based on the moves 257 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:56,679 Speaker 3: that the rates have made, it sure seems like that 258 00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 3: can be a cross off. 259 00:11:57,920 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 2: That would be very, very surprising. 260 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 3: But and the corner is is the bigger need. So 261 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 3: if they were to make a trade for a player, 262 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 3: maybe there's a corner that they could try to get. 263 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 3: I don't know who that is, but you know, you're 264 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 3: pulling a name out of a hat, to be honest, 265 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 3: but maybe that's something that they could try to do. 266 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, And and like there were the good 267 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 3: corners there. Just just just to just to go back 268 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:24,439 Speaker 3: for a second here, I said this right before you. 269 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, you team me up. 270 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 3: The best is if both of our picks are on 271 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:31,319 Speaker 3: the board at the same time, and it's like, all right, 272 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:33,439 Speaker 3: who's the smarter man, and. 273 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 2: Time and time again, all right, time and time again. 274 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 1: But I be honest, be honest with the listeners out there, 275 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 1: what did you say to me on the set after 276 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: we did the live action Lamar about how you were 277 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 1: coming off your pick. 278 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 3: I was coming off, be honest, I said, I said 279 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:52,959 Speaker 3: that I was leaning Joey Porter. 280 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 2: Yes, you were coming off the zay flowers. 281 00:12:54,920 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 3: Because also it seemed like he was go He didn't 282 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 3: get drafted in the first round. 283 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 1: He didn't get drafted in the first round, right, so 284 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 1: that was your guy. You said, if Joey Porter was there, 285 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 1: the Ravens were gonna take him. I thought, just be 286 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 1: honest with the people. I'm being honest. 287 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:21,199 Speaker 3: But you know, but but my mock written a stone today. 288 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 2: The official pick is all that matters. The official pick. 289 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 1: We'll see there's the official pick, and then there's the 290 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 1: last minute. 291 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 2: You see you were pulling one of my moves. 292 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 1: You were like, you know what, I'm coming off the 293 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: z pic I'm going. 294 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 2: I was just I was just some more holes in 295 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 2: the fire, just options. 296 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 3: But everyone knows that the one, the pick that matters 297 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:43,679 Speaker 3: is the one that's in ink on the You get 298 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 3: half credit. That's half so half. So yeah, that's a 299 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 3: half credit. All right, let's take a quick break, we'll 300 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 3: come back. We'll discuss the Lamar Jackson's and we got 301 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 3: some emails, so we're gonna take a quick break and 302 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 3: then we'll dive into all that. 303 00:13:58,760 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 2: All right, listeners. 304 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 3: DraftKings Sportsbook is the official sports betting partner of the 305 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 3: Baltimore Ravens and has a limited time offer that you 306 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 3: don't want to miss. 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For more info and to get your tickets, 321 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 3: visit www dot Preakness dot com. 322 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 1: Yeah so, let me just go back to this real quick. 323 00:14:58,080 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 1: We were talking about kind of how the board came off. 324 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 1: Receiver Jack Smith and Jigbo went. 325 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 2: Twenty twenty one Quinton Johnston. 326 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 1: I mean to the chargers, that was a surprising one. 327 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 1: I wonder how much DC was sweating that one out. 328 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, they were going wide receiver, which. 329 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 1: One are they going with? And Quinton Johnston? 330 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 2: And look, we'll see how it plays out. 331 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 3: But we were as we were watching it, we were 332 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 3: certainly excited that that we I mean, we had say Flowers, I. 333 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 2: Had them significantly ahead of them. 334 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, and so to see Johnson go right before right 335 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 3: and also you have all those corners and say Flowers 336 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 3: available plus Jordan Addison, It's like, oh, this is a 337 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 3: great scenario. Great scenario. So yeah, I'm on board with that. 338 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 2: Also, just so when Jordan Addison went right after z A. 339 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: Flowers, so obviously you have four wide receivers go right 340 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 1: in a row like that, you know what's Ben Smith 341 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 1: and Jigbo has falling down the board. I think there's 342 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 1: a lot of rape. We're a lot of Ravens fans. 343 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 1: You're a high State guy who were like, could we 344 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 1: end up getting Jackson? Smith and Jigba, right right, who 345 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 1: many people consider the top bidy receiver by whatever some margin. 346 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: I kind of put he and Zay in a very 347 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: similar category. I think Zay's a little more sudden Smith 348 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: and Jigbub. 349 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know, if you say, I 350 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 2: don't know, if it's more polished, I don't know. He's 351 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 2: like a really smooth outrunner, very smooth. I mean, but 352 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 2: Zay's a good route. 353 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 3: He just has more explosiveness, like he's sudden to me. Yeah, 354 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 3: and he has better speed. He's faster Jack Smith and Jigbu. 355 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 2: So yeah, I wonder why, Like, I mean. 356 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 1: The production for Smith and Jagba is off the charge 357 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 1: before the injury. Yeah, so I mean he's a great 358 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 1: receiver too. Yeah, but those four guys are going to 359 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 1: be compared for quite some time. 360 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 2: Totally moving forward totally. 361 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 3: And also if you're listening to this and you're like, 362 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 3: you're like, hey, guys, you're bearing the lead that about 363 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 3: the Lamar Jackson contract extension. Yeah, by the way, we 364 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 3: did a podcast, We did a live reaction podcast to 365 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 3: that that. That episode is also in the feest, so 366 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 3: you can go back and listen to that as well, 367 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 3: or you can watch it if you want to see 368 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 3: our pretty smiling faces. You can watch that on YouTube 369 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 3: or our app or website. We stream that everywhere. But 370 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 3: we do want to talk a little bit about that 371 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 3: as well, because, I mean it's a historic day. I 372 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:11,879 Speaker 3: mean you said on that live fee that you thought 373 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:15,120 Speaker 3: this might go down as one of the most significant 374 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 3: days in franchise history. 375 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 2: And I still believe that. 376 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 1: I mean, we'll see how if Zay Flowers turns out 377 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: to be the player that I think he can. Yeah, 378 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 1: it's gonna go down as one of the biggest, most 379 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 1: significant days, greatest days in Ravens team history. I mean, 380 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: the Ravens have drafted three wide receivers in the first 381 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:37,159 Speaker 1: round now with Erictkassa as a general manager since twenty nineteen, 382 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: three of them, three out of the five years. 383 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:41,159 Speaker 2: How crazy is that? 384 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:41,439 Speaker 3: Ye? 385 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:47,159 Speaker 1: And I Zay Flowers reminds me somewhat of Eric to 386 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 1: Coasa's very first pick of Marquise Brown in terms of speed, 387 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: big play threat, but. 388 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 2: More much more dangerous with the ball in his hands. 389 00:17:56,960 --> 00:18:01,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, run after catchability, you know, the toughness to kind 390 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 1: of take that take on tacklers and whatnot. Fight through contact. 391 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 1: Much different than Markison. 392 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 3: Not to mention they're both South Florida guys and they 393 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 3: have some similar similar vibes about him. 394 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:15,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah for sure, But I think different players different 395 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:16,679 Speaker 1: players I did do. 396 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:19,639 Speaker 2: I mean, he's saved Thelowers as much more of a 397 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:20,160 Speaker 2: yat guy. 398 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:24,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, like when he gets ball in his hands, he's. 399 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 2: I think more dangerous. Hollywood is more. 400 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 1: Just take the top off, right, not known as a 401 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 1: pure burner, just hitting bombs over the top. Yeah, yeah, 402 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,679 Speaker 1: I think, I think, uh, I think this will go 403 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 1: down when za Flowers uh, you know, becomes when. 404 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 2: He gets fitted for his gold jacket, When. 405 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:45,199 Speaker 1: Zay Flowers becomes a great Ravens wide receiver, and you 406 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 1: know we've all talked about being becoming a Pro Bowl 407 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 1: wide receiver. Can Zay Flowers be that? Yeah, I'm intrigued. 408 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 1: Yeah in this offense now, Yeah, totally. 409 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 3: And So in terms of Lamar, I mean a couple 410 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 3: of notes we had a chance to hear from Eric's 411 00:18:57,119 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 3: acosta afterwards, and you know, he didn't really shed too 412 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 3: much light on like when this came together, but basically 413 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:05,719 Speaker 3: his point, there's two things that I took away from it. 414 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 2: One, he just. 415 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 3: Emphasized it sometimes these things take time, and that there 416 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 3: was kind of hot and cold stretches over the course 417 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 3: of the last two years. And they've gone through these 418 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 3: negotiations and sometimes they were talking a lot, and sometimes 419 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 3: they weren't talking so much, and so they needed a 420 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 3: little bit of time. 421 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 2: And certainly it was not like smooth sailing the entire time. 422 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 3: There were some rocky seas out there, and you know, 423 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 3: he admitted John Harbor admitted, like there were times that 424 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 3: you don't one hundred percent know that it's going to 425 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 3: work out like you think it is, and you believe 426 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 3: it is, and you want it to work out faith, but. 427 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:41,120 Speaker 2: You're not one hundred percent sure. 428 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, And so that was one the second point that 429 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 3: stood out to me, and hearing him talk was you 430 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:51,880 Speaker 3: could tell that this negotiation really grinded on him because 431 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 3: he cares. And he said this, like I've been here 432 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 3: my entire career, Like I care so much about this 433 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 3: organization more than just the job, and so like he 434 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 3: for someone who cares about this team, that city. 435 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 2: He wanted to get the Lamar Jackson deal done. 436 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 3: You know, he's a general manager at this time, this 437 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:10,159 Speaker 3: kind of historic time in franchise history. He wants to 438 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:12,159 Speaker 3: be the general manager that gets the deal done and 439 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:13,360 Speaker 3: keeps Lamar here yep. 440 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:16,880 Speaker 1: And he felt sad on the Reaction podcast, like what 441 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 1: would have what would have the message have been to 442 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: Baltimore and to the NFL world wider world of like 443 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 1: the Ravens didn't keep Lamar Jackson, who was one of 444 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: the biggest stars in the league and MVP in his 445 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 1: second year. You have MVP and you know, one of 446 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 1: the best records of quarterbacks of all time in their 447 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 1: first five years and all that, Like what would that 448 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: have said if they didn't keep them? And I think 449 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,439 Speaker 1: Erica Costa felt that he didn't want to be you know, 450 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 1: he took over for Ozzie Newsome and he didn't want 451 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: to be the guy that let Lamar go, yeah, you know, 452 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: and couldn't get a deal done with him. 453 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 2: And now sometimes that's out of your hands. 454 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 1: Sometimes you make your best effort to get a deal done, 455 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 1: and you know, you try everything and you just can't, 456 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 1: you know. And it looked for a little bit like 457 00:20:56,840 --> 00:21:01,160 Speaker 1: that could be the scenario, and that is a tough 458 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 1: pill to swallow, very Costa, you know, really you could 459 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:06,879 Speaker 1: tell the difference because he said, you know, he stopped 460 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:08,160 Speaker 1: playing as many practical jokes. 461 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 2: I haven't seen as many of them. 462 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 1: We have not you could feel that, you know, I 463 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:16,479 Speaker 1: mean to be completely honest, Like there was it was 464 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 1: being in this building, like you could feel the weight 465 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 1: of this in the building, you know, just not just 466 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 1: on Eric Cossa's shoulders, certainly on his but we all know, 467 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: you know, when all this stuff is swirling out there 468 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 1: and the uncertainty and the you know what's gonna happen? 469 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 1: Are we gonna Is he gonna get traded? He made 470 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 1: a trade request? Is he you know, not want to 471 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 1: be here? Like it's just like, man, that's not what 472 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 1: you're used to as a Ravens fan, and even as 473 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 1: a Raven's employee. You know, it's it's was uncharted territory 474 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 1: kind of. 475 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, it was. It's been exhausting. 476 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:57,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm very glad that it's done. For many reasons. 477 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:00,159 Speaker 1: I think it's primarily because Lamar Jackson is awesome. We 478 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:01,120 Speaker 1: still get to watch him play. 479 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 3: You're still here, and and you know, for Eric and everybody, 480 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 3: it's there's like this sigh relief and it's just like 481 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 3: all right, like that that is lifted and now it's like, 482 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,360 Speaker 3: all right, let's just focus on building the best team, 483 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 3: having the best draft, building the best offense. 484 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 2: Definitely feel that around the building. 485 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 3: Today and I think Bravens fans certainly feel that. And so, 486 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 3: you know, the other thing that he did share, he 487 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 3: said they shared about. 488 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 2: Five or six contract proposals over the past couple of years. 489 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 2: Of course, he didn't get into the diesels what all 490 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:37,120 Speaker 2: those looked like, but. 491 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 3: There's been there's been back and forth as they've gone 492 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:41,640 Speaker 3: through these different deals. You know, I think that one 493 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,440 Speaker 3: of the questions to Eric was did the Jalen Hurts 494 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 3: contract play a big role in getting it done at 495 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 3: this time? 496 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 2: And he didn't say definitively yes, but he also said. 497 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 3: You know, you're always looking at the marketplace of contracts 498 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 3: that are being given out, and so you know that 499 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 3: has some bearing when you're comparing it across the league. 500 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:06,439 Speaker 3: So those are just some interesting notes in hearing from 501 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 3: him and how this all went down. 502 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, he was also directly asked whether 503 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 1: you thought that Deshaun Watson contract made things more difficult 504 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 1: kind of you know, didn't really want to directly say that, 505 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 1: you know, I think there's been factors along this process 506 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 1: that have made it more complicated. And then you know, 507 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 1: with Hurts, I think probably made it a little easier, 508 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 1: you know. I mean, Lamar, you know, got tagged and 509 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,120 Speaker 1: could have gone to any other team, and there were 510 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 1: there weren't reports of anything materializing there, you know, and 511 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,880 Speaker 1: so you see a jail and hurt Steel get done. 512 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:42,159 Speaker 1: The Ravens, you know, Eric Casta talked about we felt 513 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 1: like we wanted were willing to pay Lamar market plus. Yeah, 514 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 1: you know, because we know Lamar. He's our guy, we 515 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 1: know what he's He's more valuable to us because we know, yeah, 516 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:56,400 Speaker 1: right than not any other team. He doesn't know about 517 00:23:56,440 --> 00:24:00,040 Speaker 1: Lamar and what a special person he is. And so 518 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,439 Speaker 1: like they were willing to the Ravens were willing to 519 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 1: play pay market plus for Lamar. 520 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:07,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, he got the. 521 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,719 Speaker 3: Biggest contract in NFL history, according to reports, And so 522 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 3: it's a win win, like Lamar gets Lamar operating as 523 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 3: his own agent. Yep, just worked out the biggest contract 524 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 3: in NFL history, and he deserves a ton of credit 525 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 3: for getting that done, for sure. I mean, that is 526 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 3: a massive win for him, yep. And I also think 527 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 3: it's a fair deal for the Ravens based on the 528 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 3: reports of the numbers, which is two sixty in total 529 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 3: value with one eighty five fully guaranteed and. 530 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 2: So total guaranteed, total guaranteed. So that's I mean, that's 531 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 2: a great deal for both sides. 532 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 3: I mean, Lamar gets a big payday and the Ravens 533 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 3: end up getting a quarterback who they feel like has 534 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 3: a chance to get into a super Bowl. 535 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 2: It's it's just a win win, yeah. 536 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:55,239 Speaker 1: Absolutely, it's a great a very great day here at 537 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 1: one winning drive and the snacks the food was one point. 538 00:24:58,080 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. 539 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 2: Of course it's draft day, all right. 540 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 1: So we got some emails here, one of which was 541 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 1: this one's from Daniel Burns. 542 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 2: Seen. 543 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 1: The subject Linespool's eye for g gives you. 544 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:13,479 Speaker 2: Some credit for a big draft. Yep, thank you, Daniel, 545 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 2: thank you. Blah blah blah blah blah. 546 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:17,679 Speaker 1: Alright, he says, don't worry, mank I believe in you, 547 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:19,919 Speaker 1: uh to provide us a couple. 548 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 2: More hits before the draft is complete. All right. 549 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 1: Now, see now the tough part is this dominant receiver 550 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:28,879 Speaker 1: in round three, maybe I might set up well, now 551 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 1: I might go five or five. You're not going five 552 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 1: hit one of those late rounds you fell apart. Well, 553 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 1: so it's a quarterback in the rounds. I mean maybe 554 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,880 Speaker 1: that could still have potentially but doubtful. Yes, not looking 555 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 1: good for me, but you really came off the tracks 556 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 1: of the late rounds, so maybe I'll get on all right. 557 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 2: Uh. This email comes from Jordan Fitchett. 558 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 1: He says, with the first round pick being Flowers, do 559 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 1: you guys think that makes it a higher chance that 560 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:58,160 Speaker 1: the Ravens bringing rock Yoursen or Marcus Peters We kind 561 00:25:58,160 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 1: of reference. 562 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:00,440 Speaker 2: That before, Yeah, I think short answers. 563 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,160 Speaker 3: Yes, I don't know that it will necessarily be either 564 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,399 Speaker 3: of those guys, but they have a bigger They have 565 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,399 Speaker 3: the need at cornerback that was not met in the 566 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 3: first round. 567 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 2: So we'll see if they try to pull off a trade. 568 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 3: We'll see if they take one in the third round 569 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 3: who they feel like could be someone who competes for 570 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:18,159 Speaker 3: a starting job. Yep, but I think that, Yeah, I 571 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,639 Speaker 3: think there's a definitely a higher likelihood now that they 572 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 3: end up getting a veteran corner on this team. 573 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 2: Yep, for sure. 574 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 1: Other emails from Patrick Kuhn kind of along the same 575 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:31,199 Speaker 1: lines here on Night I have to say it was 576 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 1: a good z nice It says great pick. Would have 577 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 1: loved to see JSM but nothing wrong with mister Z Flowers. 578 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 1: Where do y'all see the Ravens quarterback coming from? And 579 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 1: the rest of the picks? 580 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 2: Right? So basically this is classic. 581 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:46,399 Speaker 3: By the way, this is the classic, which I you know, 582 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:48,880 Speaker 3: I understand how it works. But it's like you spend 583 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:50,399 Speaker 3: all this time talking about the first round pick and 584 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:51,440 Speaker 3: they all sudden the picks made. 585 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 2: It's like, all right, so he was taking the third 586 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,120 Speaker 2: taking exactly what what next? Exactly? 587 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:59,399 Speaker 3: So I think that the Ravens could consider different options. 588 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 3: I think that they will likely end up drafting a 589 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 3: cornerback with one of their four remaining picks. I think 590 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 3: they will likely add a veteran, whether that is through 591 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:08,160 Speaker 3: free agency or a trade. 592 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 1: I think Garrett Williams from Syracuse, by the way, I'm 593 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 1: just gonna toss that out there. You know what, I 594 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 1: might have to redo my seven round body. Yeah, of 595 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 1: course I'm gonna start tellusing us in because you're desperate. 596 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 1: Now I'm gonna hit you missed. 597 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 2: I'm gonna hit one because he missed. 598 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 3: So I think that I think that they are, It 599 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,000 Speaker 3: would not surprise me if it's a couple options, if 600 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 3: they if they draft a corner and add one as 601 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 3: a veteran. 602 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think at this point that they will add 603 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 2: a veteran. 604 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:32,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. 605 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 2: I don't think that you really want to go into 606 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 2: next year. 607 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,159 Speaker 1: I mean, you have such a strong defense, do you 608 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 1: really want a weakness at corner. I mean, this team 609 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 1: has certainly shown that how the premium that they place 610 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:45,199 Speaker 1: on cornerbacks. 611 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, And if they're gonna go after. 612 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,119 Speaker 1: Whatever your weak link is in the secondary, and if 613 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 1: your weak link is starting corner, your number two corner, 614 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 1: that's not good. And so I expect that they probably 615 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 1: will add a veteran and draft somebody, and then you'll 616 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 1: have a great competition with all these guys including Gillen, Armor, Davis, 617 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 1: Peppi Williams, all these guys, bradys. 618 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:08,880 Speaker 3: And then the last point that I have is from 619 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 3: in terms of that starting defense, Patrick Queen. The decision 620 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:14,919 Speaker 3: is coming up on his fifth year option. Eric Dicsta 621 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 3: was asked about that, said, there's not gonna be any 622 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,160 Speaker 3: announcement about that, but they will talk about that at the. 623 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 2: End of the draft. 624 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 3: YEP. So we'll see what that means, don't don't know 625 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 3: what that means, but we'll see. So no announcement on 626 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:28,240 Speaker 3: whether they're going to pick up a fifth year option 627 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:29,439 Speaker 3: or what the status of that is. 628 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 2: Yep. 629 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 3: So we're going to continue to do podcasts over the 630 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,200 Speaker 3: course of this weekend. Also, if you want to listen 631 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 3: to the full press conferences in their entirety, check out 632 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 3: the Ravens Press Pass feed wherever you get your podcasts. 633 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 3: So we've got to say Flowers presser in there. The 634 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 3: full recap pressor from the end of the day from DaCosta, 635 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 3: Hortiz and Hardball. We're going to do that for each 636 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 3: of these three rounds. So as always, you can email 637 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 3: us at the lounge at Ravens dot NFL dot net, subscribe, 638 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 3: rate and review the pod. 639 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 2: It's a big day. We hope you're as excited as 640 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 2: we are. Now, gonna get a couple hours of sleep, 641 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 2: a couple of hours of sleep, and we'll be back 642 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 2: at it again tomorrow. Mh.