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We 0:02:54.720 --> 0:02:58.200 are allowing ourselves to talk about things or stories or 0:02:58.240 --> 0:03:01.560 whatever that interests us that doesn't necessarily fit into the 0:03:01.760 --> 0:03:06.560 thinking sideways format genre genre in general. This is our 0:03:06.600 --> 0:03:08.440 first one. I'm really excited about it because I get 0:03:08.440 --> 0:03:11.639 to host it. As you can tell. So that's the concept. 0:03:12.160 --> 0:03:15.880 We hope you guys enjoy it. Today we're talking about 0:03:17.919 --> 0:03:22.720 thing of Phantom Ruby Tuesdays in New Mexico, some sort 0:03:22.760 --> 0:03:25.280 of time slip with not just a fan and restaurants 0:03:25.280 --> 0:03:28.400 a Phantom of city. It's yeah, Phantom. It's a weird thing. 0:03:28.760 --> 0:03:34.040 It is a story that one of our mods, Leslie, 0:03:34.440 --> 0:03:37.600 suggested to me and it was found on Reddit glitch 0:03:37.600 --> 0:03:41.320 in the Matrix. Okay, so if you if you're on Reddit, 0:03:41.400 --> 0:03:44.280 you probably know what matrix is, right, or you can 0:03:44.360 --> 0:03:48.560 assume if you've ever seen the movie The Matrix. Yeah, anyway, 0:03:48.680 --> 0:03:51.840 well let's just launch right in here. Okay. The story 0:03:51.880 --> 0:03:55.960 starts in winter of two thousand nine, when the original 0:03:56.000 --> 0:03:59.200 poster we're just going to call him op I'm just 0:03:59.200 --> 0:04:03.560 gonna say it opt. That's great. Um Now, when you 0:04:03.600 --> 0:04:06.640 do your story, you can call it Opie. Um Up 0:04:06.680 --> 0:04:10.400 and his brother drove from Portland, Oregon our Fair City 0:04:10.440 --> 0:04:13.560 to Florida to visit their system, and on the trip 0:04:13.560 --> 0:04:16.920 back to Portland, they decided to take Interstate ten all 0:04:17.000 --> 0:04:19.520 the way back to avoid some snow to lays they 0:04:19.520 --> 0:04:22.520 had experienced on the way out. Because runs along the 0:04:22.560 --> 0:04:29.719 southern portion of the Louisiana and Texas I've driven through, 0:04:29.760 --> 0:04:32.680 I've driven actually both of these routes to the east coast. 0:04:33.000 --> 0:04:37.400 I ten is actually way more enjoyable. Yeah, it was. 0:04:37.440 --> 0:04:41.160 It was way more enjoyable. Um. The first day they 0:04:41.200 --> 0:04:44.640 made it to San Antonio, which was a pretty good 0:04:46.240 --> 0:04:49.720 that's quite a marathon. I mean that's like probably a 0:04:49.760 --> 0:04:53.279 twenty two hour day. Yeah, So they stopped and then 0:04:53.720 --> 0:04:55.440 the next day they had planned to make it from 0:04:55.480 --> 0:04:59.080 San Antonio to Las Vegas. Um, like you do with 0:04:59.440 --> 0:05:02.719 road trip, you start to really learn your car and 0:05:02.800 --> 0:05:05.640 what kind of gas mileage you're getting from it. So 0:05:05.680 --> 0:05:08.600 they knew that they usually needed to stop at about 0:05:08.720 --> 0:05:11.080 three hundred and fifty miles for gas, but they could 0:05:11.120 --> 0:05:13.760 go all the way to four hundred if absolutely needed. 0:05:13.800 --> 0:05:17.080 They were right now. They were in a Honda hybrid. 0:05:17.080 --> 0:05:22.400 Actually okay, okay, hybrid, okay, yep. Um, So, about a 0:05:22.520 --> 0:05:27.440 hundred miles outside of San Antonio, the op noticed that 0:05:27.560 --> 0:05:32.120 the fuel gauge was dropping noticeably faster than usual. So, um, 0:05:32.160 --> 0:05:35.159 they looked to you know, on the hybrid cars you 0:05:35.200 --> 0:05:37.560 can maybe you don't. On a hybrid car, you can 0:05:37.560 --> 0:05:40.120 click to see fuel consumption. A lot of cars do 0:05:40.160 --> 0:05:42.480 that these days. Yeah, I drive an old car, so 0:05:42.839 --> 0:05:45.320 my car doesn't, but newer cars. If you have an 0:05:45.360 --> 0:05:47.640 analog fuel gauge, if you would upgrade one of those 0:05:47.640 --> 0:05:51.960 awesome digital ones, yeah, way better. I'm cool with my analog. Thanks. Um. 0:05:52.000 --> 0:05:55.400 But they noticed that the car was only getting the 0:05:55.839 --> 0:05:59.400 like almost barely twenty six miles per gallon versus they 0:05:59.400 --> 0:06:04.600 had been getting closer to miles per gallon. Obviously, this 0:06:04.680 --> 0:06:06.839 is pretty crazy, but there could be a lot of 0:06:06.880 --> 0:06:09.160 explanations for it, like they were going uphill, or there 0:06:09.200 --> 0:06:12.039 was a headwind or something, or maybe yeah, there was 0:06:12.080 --> 0:06:14.840 some sort of gravitational tug from sort of you know, 0:06:15.080 --> 0:06:18.920 gravitation after or something. Yeah, I mean somebody on RETTA said, 0:06:18.960 --> 0:06:20.560 you know, it could just be something as simple as 0:06:20.600 --> 0:06:23.440 they bought gas from a really crappy station that adulterate 0:06:23.520 --> 0:06:28.360 their gas with water exactly, yeah, purposefully or otherwise. You 0:06:28.400 --> 0:06:31.240 know that if the tanks live underground, and if the 0:06:31.279 --> 0:06:33.480 tanks are old, they can get a little porous, and 0:06:33.680 --> 0:06:37.120 the water because in the ground can just seep right in. Yeah, exactly. 0:06:37.160 --> 0:06:40.480 So there are a number of reasons, but um just 0:06:40.520 --> 0:06:44.400 decided they couldn't really come up with one other than 0:06:44.480 --> 0:06:47.520 to quote, make them pull over where they did, a 0:06:47.640 --> 0:06:49.479 reason that this was happening. That's what they can come 0:06:49.560 --> 0:06:53.680 up with. Afterwards. I thought it was fate, yeah, or 0:06:54.480 --> 0:06:58.000 some invisible hand something, yeah, um, And I do think 0:06:58.160 --> 0:07:03.600 from the story the original poster is Mail so him. 0:07:04.400 --> 0:07:08.320 They pulled over for gas earlier than expected and then 0:07:08.320 --> 0:07:11.160 followed the GPS directions back on course. After a few 0:07:11.160 --> 0:07:12.960 minutes of driving, they realized that they are not on 0:07:13.000 --> 0:07:16.520 the predetermined I ten path, but instead on Highway to 0:07:17.000 --> 0:07:22.800 eight five heading north Texas. Right. It was yeah around there, yeah, so, 0:07:22.840 --> 0:07:26.360 and that that happens sometimes, especially in this kind of 0:07:26.360 --> 0:07:30.360 more desolate parts of our of our country, interstates and 0:07:30.480 --> 0:07:33.280 highways kind of commingle and share the same share the 0:07:33.320 --> 0:07:35.800 same I mean, not the numbers, but they will share 0:07:35.840 --> 0:07:39.360 the same actual road, have the same number, can be 0:07:39.440 --> 0:07:42.440 on the same stretch of road they spur off. So yeah, 0:07:42.600 --> 0:07:45.280 that's true. But oftentimes you know you'll get this is 0:07:45.520 --> 0:07:48.920 um I five I four oh five and also Highway 0:07:48.960 --> 0:07:53.160 to eighteen and Highway one seven I mean, you know 0:07:53.240 --> 0:07:55.400 that all on that same road. So they just kind 0:07:55.400 --> 0:07:58.000 of thought, well, maybe this is what that's what's going 0:07:58.080 --> 0:08:01.960 on there, um relized only too late. Yeah, and then 0:08:02.160 --> 0:08:04.040 they so they just kept going, and then they make 0:08:04.080 --> 0:08:06.280 it to New Mexico, but realized that they're about an 0:08:06.320 --> 0:08:09.600 hour early crossing into New Mexico. Then they would have 0:08:09.640 --> 0:08:14.480 been on I ten. So they realized that they're not 0:08:14.520 --> 0:08:17.080 actually on I ten at all, and at this point 0:08:18.280 --> 0:08:20.680 exactly right, and then at this point that they've just 0:08:20.760 --> 0:08:23.480 gone too far. It would have been an hour faster 0:08:23.600 --> 0:08:26.760 to stay on I ten, but at this point it's 0:08:26.840 --> 0:08:29.440 not faster to backtrack all the way back to I 0:08:29.520 --> 0:08:31.360 tend to go back up to Vegas. So they're just 0:08:31.400 --> 0:08:33.120 staying on the roads. There are other ways to get 0:08:33.120 --> 0:08:35.439 back to River City, but they were, but they were 0:08:35.520 --> 0:08:40.920 using a budget GPS unit, not a not a real 0:08:41.000 --> 0:08:44.000 high dollar fancy one. Maybe that was part of it. Yeah, yeah, 0:08:44.200 --> 0:08:45.880 I think it was part of it. But luckily there's 0:08:45.920 --> 0:08:48.920 more than one road in the US. Sometimes they got 0:08:48.960 --> 0:08:51.280 to find their way home. Yeah, and I've driven this 0:08:51.320 --> 0:08:53.959 stretch of road, this actual specific stretch of road. I 0:08:53.960 --> 0:08:57.720 don't know if either of you have, but even even 0:08:57.760 --> 0:09:00.640 in this part of the country, if you've ever driven 0:09:00.640 --> 0:09:04.360 through it, you know, almost everything you encounter are like 0:09:04.760 --> 0:09:10.280 pit spots or um like we exactly. Yeah, yeah, it's 0:09:10.320 --> 0:09:12.440 you know, you maybe get a gas station. Maybe if 0:09:12.480 --> 0:09:15.040 you're lucky, the gas station has like a subway connected 0:09:15.080 --> 0:09:17.880 to it or something like. That's pretty much all that 0:09:17.960 --> 0:09:20.960 exists there. And more often than not, it's a sign 0:09:21.040 --> 0:09:25.160 that says huber this way, no services. The jackpot when 0:09:25.160 --> 0:09:28.400 you get the pizza Hut taco bell combination. One of 0:09:28.400 --> 0:09:31.720 my favorites is just last gas for two. But you 0:09:31.720 --> 0:09:35.199 want to pay attention to those signs, yeah, my favorite. 0:09:35.200 --> 0:09:36.960 My second favorite is when it says last gas for 0:09:36.960 --> 0:09:38.679 two hundred miles and then you drive ten miles down 0:09:38.720 --> 0:09:41.080 the road in the risk there's way more. Yeah, and 0:09:41.120 --> 0:09:44.840 there's actually a thriving city somehow. Yeah. So these guys 0:09:45.160 --> 0:09:48.920 eventually hit a place called Vaughan, New Mexico. This is 0:09:49.000 --> 0:09:52.080 like a four person population type spot, so, you know, 0:09:52.200 --> 0:09:56.319 not the wide spot on the road, but not thriving 0:09:56.360 --> 0:09:59.120 community necessarily. You know. Actually I had to go do 0:09:59.200 --> 0:10:03.160 a little street view on that one, and it looks 0:10:03.160 --> 0:10:05.160 like I used to have more than four people. There's 0:10:05.160 --> 0:10:07.880 a lot a lot of they're like boarded up buildings 0:10:07.920 --> 0:10:10.120 on the main drag there. Yeah, I think most of 0:10:10.160 --> 0:10:12.679 the places through this area used to have a lot 0:10:12.679 --> 0:10:15.560 more people, maybe at least some more people. Um and 0:10:15.559 --> 0:10:20.080 and Sino they eventually drove through, after which I am 0:10:20.160 --> 0:10:24.319 not lying. When you google and Sin, no, the thing 0:10:24.360 --> 0:10:27.480 that comes up is pictures of abandoned outhouses. Oh I 0:10:27.480 --> 0:10:30.720 thought it was going to be that poly short movie. No, 0:10:30.960 --> 0:10:33.120 that's the first thing it tries to suggest, but it 0:10:33.320 --> 0:10:38.199 is nope, nope. About ten miles by um the posters 0:10:38.320 --> 0:10:42.760 estimation they drove to a town or a city. It 0:10:42.800 --> 0:10:46.600 wasn't on their GPS. Again, this isn't insanely unusual. The 0:10:46.600 --> 0:10:50.120 budget GPS is either you know, loose service and don't 0:10:50.160 --> 0:10:55.199 really update or stuff. Yeah, their maps are out of 0:10:55.280 --> 0:10:57.880 date or whatever. But they also said that there was 0:10:58.000 --> 0:11:01.559 no no kind of signing around it, none of them 0:11:04.040 --> 0:11:08.320 Ville next exit. Yeah, and actually this it sounds like 0:11:08.480 --> 0:11:11.400 was not a poduncd vell. I mean there were a 0:11:11.440 --> 0:11:14.640 lot of chain hotels and even like they said, like 0:11:14.679 --> 0:11:17.920 in Albertson's and a number of chain restaurants. I mean, 0:11:17.920 --> 0:11:20.600 it was a big enough they said they thought it 0:11:20.679 --> 0:11:24.760 was like a ten to twenty thousand person population area, 0:11:25.080 --> 0:11:28.240 which is fairly sizeable, particularly for that neck of the woods, 0:11:28.280 --> 0:11:31.439 and particularly to have like no signage or anything else 0:11:31.720 --> 0:11:35.000 just pops up out of nowhere. Yeah yeah, kind of weird. Yeah, though, 0:11:35.120 --> 0:11:37.920 I will say again, having been on long haul road 0:11:37.920 --> 0:11:39.959 trips like this, especially if they pulled a twenty two 0:11:39.960 --> 0:11:44.079 hour day the day before, sometimes you just stop paying 0:11:44.080 --> 0:11:47.040 attention to the signs that are blowing past. You think 0:11:47.040 --> 0:11:48.960 you might have been on the wrong road or I 0:11:48.960 --> 0:11:52.040 I don't know really why what's happening there? They decide 0:11:52.760 --> 0:11:57.440 to take advantage of not being at a little podunct wherever. No, 0:11:57.520 --> 0:12:00.079 you know, they don't want the the crappy burger and 0:12:01.080 --> 0:12:06.760 yeah exactly, and stop in at Ruby Tuesdays for dinner day. 0:12:06.880 --> 0:12:09.720 As soon as they walk in, they are greeted by 0:12:09.760 --> 0:12:12.920 a waitress by name. I guess at this point we 0:12:12.960 --> 0:12:14.839 have to name them. We can do our standard Justin 0:12:14.840 --> 0:12:20.000 and Aaron. Yeah yeah, I like they're good names. Yeah um. 0:12:20.040 --> 0:12:22.200 But the waitress basically walks up to them with a 0:12:22.240 --> 0:12:24.520 huge smile on her face and she says, oh my word, 0:12:24.600 --> 0:12:27.920 is that Justin and Aaron. They both assume that like 0:12:28.120 --> 0:12:32.240 one of the brothers knows her, you know, like Justin's like, oh, well, 0:12:32.240 --> 0:12:34.920 Aaron obviously knows her, and Erin's like, well, Justin obviously 0:12:34.960 --> 0:12:37.400 knows her. And they kind of vague their way through 0:12:37.440 --> 0:12:39.200 some answers, you know, and she says, how are you 0:12:39.200 --> 0:12:43.199 doing blah blah blah, sits her down, and they sit down, 0:12:43.760 --> 0:12:46.800 and she goes off to get the menus, and they 0:12:46.880 --> 0:12:50.320 confer and they realize neither of them actually knows this woman, 0:12:51.440 --> 0:12:53.600 and they think, well, Justin and Aaron are like pretty 0:12:53.600 --> 0:12:58.760 common names. Maybe, you know, maybe maybe she's just that 0:13:00.000 --> 0:13:02.439 podcast saying a lot of people started naming their babies, 0:13:04.160 --> 0:13:06.440 so yeah, they are pretty common names at that point. Ye. 0:13:07.679 --> 0:13:11.480 Then a bartender comes over and says, no way, Justin 0:13:11.520 --> 0:13:14.520 and Aaron, are you guys back for jobs. They informed 0:13:14.600 --> 0:13:16.760 him that he must just like be mistaken because at 0:13:16.760 --> 0:13:19.680 this point they realized they they are being mistaken for 0:13:19.800 --> 0:13:22.720 somebody else apparently, and he just kind of laughs like 0:13:22.760 --> 0:13:26.720 they're joking. The bartender continues by asking how they had 0:13:26.800 --> 0:13:30.480 fared in their three month anatomy and physiology courses that 0:13:30.480 --> 0:13:33.160 they've taken at Oregon State. Once it turned out they 0:13:33.200 --> 0:13:35.040 had taken yeah, I mean, Joe, can you read this 0:13:35.160 --> 0:13:39.200 next little bit? It's an actual quote, okay, okay quote. 0:13:39.240 --> 0:13:41.480 I remember thinking, all of a sudden, this is not 0:13:41.520 --> 0:13:44.400 a coincidence anymore. My brother and I had taken the 0:13:44.480 --> 0:13:47.520 three months fifteen credit A and P class at Portland 0:13:47.559 --> 0:13:50.640 State University when we were in our early twenties. We 0:13:50.640 --> 0:13:53.800 were late twenties when this interaction happened. Finally, I asked 0:13:53.840 --> 0:13:56.240 the guy again exactly where they knew us from, and 0:13:56.280 --> 0:13:58.240 he just kind of paused and started looking me over. 0:13:58.760 --> 0:14:01.840 Then he said, oh, you guys just like really similar 0:14:01.840 --> 0:14:04.440 to some people that used to work here unquote. He 0:14:04.480 --> 0:14:06.520 apologized and claimed they had to get back to work. 0:14:06.520 --> 0:14:08.559 After a bit, our food came and my brother and 0:14:08.600 --> 0:14:10.439 I noticed it had switched out our waitress from the 0:14:10.480 --> 0:14:13.280 girl who recognized us when we walked in. That wasn't 0:14:13.320 --> 0:14:15.600 a big deal, though a bit strange. Next, a guy 0:14:15.640 --> 0:14:17.880 I can only guess was the manager starts walking over 0:14:17.920 --> 0:14:19.880 to our table with a big smile on his face. 0:14:20.360 --> 0:14:22.240 As he guess with him about ten feet of us. 0:14:22.320 --> 0:14:24.840 He kind of starts looking over my head and stops. 0:14:25.360 --> 0:14:27.640 I think someone behind me was directing him not to 0:14:27.720 --> 0:14:30.520 talk to us. After he received the message. You sharply 0:14:30.520 --> 0:14:35.080 turned ninety degrees and walked away without saying a word unquote. 0:14:35.920 --> 0:14:38.760 I mean it's weird and awkward, but yeah, a little bit, 0:14:39.240 --> 0:14:43.040 you know, nothing like too crazy. That's kind of crazy. 0:14:43.080 --> 0:14:47.640 I mean they basically you can tell they are not comfortable. 0:14:47.840 --> 0:14:50.760 I wouldn't be. And they finished their meal as quickly 0:14:50.800 --> 0:14:54.160 as possible, and the new waitress comes back and says, oh, 0:14:54.280 --> 0:14:56.600 our cash register system is down, so your meals around 0:14:56.640 --> 0:15:01.160 the house, which is again like a chain doesn't normally 0:15:01.200 --> 0:15:05.080 do that, just to just sit there for the next minutes, 0:15:06.160 --> 0:15:08.440 or you know, you need cash, like we have a 0:15:08.720 --> 0:15:10.520 t M. There's an a t M down the way. 0:15:11.000 --> 0:15:15.000 Just pay us cash something to get paid. Uh. Justin 0:15:15.440 --> 0:15:17.680 says that he wanted to ask where they were, but 0:15:17.760 --> 0:15:19.840 also just like really wanted to get out of there, 0:15:19.840 --> 0:15:22.560 which I can totally sympathize with. There are some moments 0:15:22.560 --> 0:15:24.080 where you're just like, oh my god, I gotta get 0:15:24.120 --> 0:15:26.080 out of here. I need to know more, but I 0:15:26.160 --> 0:15:28.720 gotta get out of here. They figured they had to 0:15:28.720 --> 0:15:32.080 stop for gas anyway, so they would you get the 0:15:32.080 --> 0:15:35.160 little receipt and it says, you know X on mobile 0:15:35.760 --> 0:15:38.680 Portland's northeast or what I mean. You know, it says 0:15:38.680 --> 0:15:43.000 where you're basically right. Um. But unfortunately, as they were 0:15:43.120 --> 0:15:45.920 getting on the highway it was divided, so they were 0:15:45.960 --> 0:15:48.160 forced to turn right out of the restaurant, putting them 0:15:48.200 --> 0:15:54.240 back directly onto northbound eight five thank you, which basically 0:15:54.320 --> 0:15:56.080 forced them back on the road without being able to 0:15:56.080 --> 0:15:58.360 fuel up. So they drove for about twenty more minutes 0:15:58.400 --> 0:16:00.480 and then found a truck stop where they stopped, which 0:16:00.560 --> 0:16:02.960 ended up being right at the intersection of two five 0:16:03.000 --> 0:16:06.120 and I forty. Uh and I forty is the road 0:16:06.120 --> 0:16:08.080 that you would take for the rest of pretty much 0:16:08.120 --> 0:16:11.880 the rest of your journey westward. Um. Yeah, so you can. 0:16:11.920 --> 0:16:13.960 You can see this all on on Google. You can 0:16:13.960 --> 0:16:17.080 see the area and everything. Yeah. Yeah. And so the 0:16:17.080 --> 0:16:21.920 the other reason that this is weird is that there 0:16:22.160 --> 0:16:26.440 is nothing there really isn't between Encino and the junction 0:16:26.680 --> 0:16:31.320 of two eighty five and I forty. Actually, there is 0:16:31.360 --> 0:16:38.080 a little phantom business there called Ruby Tuesdays. I forget 0:16:38.080 --> 0:16:39.600 what it is. I was looking at something like, you know, 0:16:39.720 --> 0:16:42.720 Mike's Mike's Repair or something like that, but it's certainly 0:16:42.720 --> 0:16:45.400 not a Ruby Tuesdays. No, when you look it's actually 0:16:45.480 --> 0:16:50.120 labeled to Google. But when you actually nothing there. Yeah, 0:16:50.360 --> 0:16:52.480 so that's the thing. I attached a map to this, 0:16:52.560 --> 0:16:54.400 so you guys got to look at it, which is 0:16:54.400 --> 0:16:57.320 pretty cool. But that's like the weirdness of this whole thing. 0:16:57.360 --> 0:16:59.200 I mean, on top of everything else, right, there is 0:16:59.240 --> 0:17:02.080 nothing in there, literally nothing. I mean it's a pretty 0:17:02.720 --> 0:17:09.120 short stretch of road, yeah, and there's nothing there. Yeah. 0:17:09.160 --> 0:17:12.000 It's interesting though. It's actually if you look at if 0:17:12.000 --> 0:17:14.120 you street, you and everything, it's it's a double highway, 0:17:14.160 --> 0:17:16.480 so it's too lazy direction with with a nice me 0:17:16.640 --> 0:17:20.119 radian in between, considering and I checked the traffic flow 0:17:20.160 --> 0:17:23.840 on that. But through the state of New Mexico, that 0:17:23.880 --> 0:17:26.359 little stretch in there is two thousand, two hundred forty 0:17:26.359 --> 0:17:28.960 seven cars a day. That's a that's a lot of 0:17:29.080 --> 0:17:31.840 really nice asphalt for that number of cars. And uh 0:17:33.000 --> 0:17:36.199 it really is. Uh yeah, that's a big, beautiful highway 0:17:36.240 --> 0:17:39.720 going straight as an arrow. Yeah. Well, actually, somebody on Reddit, 0:17:39.800 --> 0:17:42.800 since this was a Reddit post, somebody on Reddit took 0:17:42.840 --> 0:17:46.240 the time they lived close and they they actually took 0:17:46.240 --> 0:17:49.920 a picture. They drove this entire journey, you know, from Vaughan, 0:17:50.000 --> 0:17:52.560 New Mexico, all the way to this truck stop that 0:17:52.840 --> 0:17:55.240 the guy said they stopped at and took a picture 0:17:55.520 --> 0:17:58.480 pretty much every couple of miles, every time they saw 0:17:58.520 --> 0:18:01.600 something of any kind of interest. And there's nothing there. 0:18:02.000 --> 0:18:05.200 So here's the question, and I I So I looked 0:18:05.200 --> 0:18:08.080 at the map you had and spun around a little 0:18:08.080 --> 0:18:10.360 bit on the map, but I didn't do any extensive searching. 0:18:11.040 --> 0:18:16.360 Is it at all possible that are our storyteller? That's 0:18:16.359 --> 0:18:20.520 how I'm going to refer to him, our storyteller diverted 0:18:20.920 --> 0:18:24.240 yet again from the road they thought they were all 0:18:24.400 --> 0:18:28.240 I had that que I had that question exactly, and 0:18:28.560 --> 0:18:32.880 I will tell you know because they said they went 0:18:33.080 --> 0:18:38.320 through Vaughan and Encino, and those are two very distinct 0:18:38.320 --> 0:18:42.080 points and then either you can go straight and then 0:18:42.160 --> 0:18:46.760 you hit the border, or you go up and you 0:18:46.800 --> 0:18:50.320 intersect with I forty. They know that they stopped within 0:18:50.760 --> 0:18:53.960 an hour of Encino, give or take, you know, actual 0:18:54.040 --> 0:18:57.640 driving distance an hour of Encino. They hit the junction 0:18:57.880 --> 0:19:02.560 of UM to A five and I forty. And the 0:19:02.600 --> 0:19:05.919 only place that that those two intersect is that truck stop. 0:19:06.320 --> 0:19:10.399 Now granted, they could have yes gone diverted, but to 0:19:10.560 --> 0:19:13.639 divert they would have hit like a bunch of major cities, 0:19:14.080 --> 0:19:19.119 major cities, and they would have been hundreds, if not 0:19:19.240 --> 0:19:23.320 thousands of miles off course and so wrong about where 0:19:23.320 --> 0:19:26.920 they're at them they would have known. Yeah, And that 0:19:27.040 --> 0:19:28.520 was one of the things is like, you know, one 0:19:28.560 --> 0:19:30.520 of the theories on this is like they were just wrong, 0:19:31.000 --> 0:19:33.879 but they would have had been really, really wrong. The 0:19:33.920 --> 0:19:37.920 other thing is is that, um, if you look at 0:19:38.040 --> 0:19:42.520 Ruby Tuesday's website or even a historic log of where 0:19:42.560 --> 0:19:46.359 Ruby Tuesdays are in New Mexico, there's only one and 0:19:46.400 --> 0:19:48.760 it's two hundred and five miles away from where they 0:19:48.840 --> 0:19:52.240 claim they were, and it's actually a pretty decent sized city. Yeah, 0:19:52.280 --> 0:19:54.159 you have to be really wrong. And of course this 0:19:54.160 --> 0:19:57.160 wouldn't be the first time that somebody were wrong about something. 0:19:57.280 --> 0:19:59.560 I mean, it could have been they were at Ruby's Tuesday. 0:20:00.560 --> 0:20:03.359 I was a chain what I mean it could have been, Yeah, 0:20:03.480 --> 0:20:06.040 it's not the chain Ruby Tuesdays. It could have been 0:20:06.119 --> 0:20:10.400 something that was very similarly named or Rusday. Yeah, yeah, 0:20:10.800 --> 0:20:15.000 Ruby Rubies. I mean they represented it as the reason 0:20:15.040 --> 0:20:16.879 that they were excited about it is you guys may 0:20:16.960 --> 0:20:20.480 remember that the first Ruby Tuesdays in Portland's started opening 0:20:20.560 --> 0:20:24.800 up around two nine or whenever the story we're being 0:20:24.800 --> 0:20:28.600 excited about. No, I wasn't excited. But you know that's 0:20:28.640 --> 0:20:31.240 kind of when they came here. And so the reason 0:20:31.280 --> 0:20:34.239 that they had chosen that particular chain is because they 0:20:34.240 --> 0:20:36.840 were like, oh, those are opening up around us. Let's 0:20:36.840 --> 0:20:40.400 see if it's any good. So here, and but yes, 0:20:40.440 --> 0:20:43.840 I will allow I will allow a whole lot of 0:20:44.040 --> 0:20:47.240 error here. But even like the most amount of error 0:20:47.440 --> 0:20:50.159 can't get me a random city in the middle of 0:20:50.320 --> 0:20:53.680 basically what is just like wasteland. So were we in theories? Now? 0:20:53.720 --> 0:20:55.480 Is that where we're at here? Yeah? I mean this 0:20:55.520 --> 0:21:00.600 isn't this isn't thinking sideways what it is talking about 0:21:00.600 --> 0:21:02.760 what it could be? Yeah, okay, but before we talk 0:21:02.800 --> 0:21:09.000 about theories, let's take a break. If you think being 0:21:09.000 --> 0:21:12.080 a Ruby Tuesdays and having everybody recognize you when you 0:21:12.119 --> 0:21:14.080 don't know them as a bit of a mind twister, 0:21:14.600 --> 0:21:17.440 then you are gonna love the new show from HBO. 0:21:18.400 --> 0:21:22.200 When Young Girl disappears from rural wind Gap, Missouri, reporter 0:21:22.359 --> 0:21:25.200 Camille Preaker is sent to investigate whether the case is 0:21:25.240 --> 0:21:28.280 linked to an unsolved murder. 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