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You 28 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: may have seen us doing polls or things like that 29 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: on social media for the name of this officially, right now, 30 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: we are calling this side program down the rabbit Hole. 31 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 1: By Thinking Sideways, special bonus content for all of our 32 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: fans on Stitcher Premium using Stitcher Premium, which we're very 33 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: excited for. Thanks for the rabbit Sorry, dude, we took 34 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: over your whole Thank you for subscribing on Stitcher Premium. Yeah, 35 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: for sure, this is the reward. I was stating around 36 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: awkwardly talking, Yeah, this is kind of lame for down 37 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 1: the rabbit Hole. By thinking Sideways, we are basically giving 38 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 1: ourselves a little bit of a free for all. We 39 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 1: are allowing ourselves to talk about things or stories or 40 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: whatever that interests us that doesn't necessarily fit into the 41 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: thinking sideways format genre genre in general. This is our 42 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: first one. I'm really excited about it because I get 43 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:11,639 Speaker 1: to host it. As you can tell. So that's the concept. 44 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: We hope you guys enjoy it. Today we're talking about 45 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: thing of Phantom Ruby Tuesdays in New Mexico, some sort 46 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: of time slip with not just a fan and restaurants 47 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 1: a Phantom of city. It's yeah, Phantom. It's a weird thing. 48 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: It is a story that one of our mods, Leslie, 49 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: suggested to me and it was found on Reddit glitch 50 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: in the Matrix. Okay, so if you if you're on Reddit, 51 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 1: you probably know what matrix is, right, or you can 52 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: assume if you've ever seen the movie The Matrix. Yeah, anyway, 53 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 1: well let's just launch right in here. Okay. The story 54 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: starts in winter of two thousand nine, when the original 55 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: poster we're just going to call him op I'm just 56 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: gonna say it opt. That's great. Um Now, when you 57 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: do your story, you can call it Opie. Um Up 58 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 1: and his brother drove from Portland, Oregon our Fair City 59 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: to Florida to visit their system, and on the trip 60 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 1: back to Portland, they decided to take Interstate ten all 61 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: the way back to avoid some snow to lays they 62 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: had experienced on the way out. Because runs along the 63 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:29,719 Speaker 1: southern portion of the Louisiana and Texas I've driven through, 64 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 1: I've driven actually both of these routes to the east coast. 65 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: I ten is actually way more enjoyable. Yeah, it was. 66 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:41,160 Speaker 1: It was way more enjoyable. Um. The first day they 67 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: made it to San Antonio, which was a pretty good 68 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 1: that's quite a marathon. I mean that's like probably a 69 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 1: twenty two hour day. Yeah, So they stopped and then 70 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: the next day they had planned to make it from 71 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: San Antonio to Las Vegas. Um, like you do with 72 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 1: road trip, you start to really learn your car and 73 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: what kind of gas mileage you're getting from it. So 74 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 1: they knew that they usually needed to stop at about 75 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: three hundred and fifty miles for gas, but they could 76 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: go all the way to four hundred if absolutely needed. 77 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: They were right now. They were in a Honda hybrid. 78 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: Actually okay, okay, hybrid, okay, yep. Um, So, about a 79 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: hundred miles outside of San Antonio, the op noticed that 80 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 1: the fuel gauge was dropping noticeably faster than usual. So, um, 81 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:35,159 Speaker 1: they looked to you know, on the hybrid cars you 82 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: can maybe you don't. On a hybrid car, you can 83 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 1: click to see fuel consumption. A lot of cars do 84 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 1: that these days. Yeah, I drive an old car, so 85 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 1: my car doesn't, but newer cars. If you have an 86 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: analog fuel gauge, if you would upgrade one of those 87 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: awesome digital ones, yeah, way better. I'm cool with my analog. Thanks. Um. 88 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: But they noticed that the car was only getting the 89 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: like almost barely twenty six miles per gallon versus they 90 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 1: had been getting closer to miles per gallon. Obviously, this 91 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 1: is pretty crazy, but there could be a lot of 92 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 1: explanations for it, like they were going uphill, or there 93 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:12,039 Speaker 1: was a headwind or something, or maybe yeah, there was 94 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:14,840 Speaker 1: some sort of gravitational tug from sort of you know, 95 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 1: gravitation after or something. Yeah, I mean somebody on RETTA said, 96 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: you know, it could just be something as simple as 97 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 1: they bought gas from a really crappy station that adulterate 98 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 1: their gas with water exactly, yeah, purposefully or otherwise. You 99 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 1: know that if the tanks live underground, and if the 100 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 1: tanks are old, they can get a little porous, and 101 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: the water because in the ground can just seep right in. Yeah, exactly. 102 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 1: So there are a number of reasons, but um just 103 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: decided they couldn't really come up with one other than 104 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: to quote, make them pull over where they did, a 105 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:49,479 Speaker 1: reason that this was happening. That's what they can come 106 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 1: up with. Afterwards. I thought it was fate, yeah, or 107 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: some invisible hand something, yeah, um, And I do think 108 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 1: from the story the original poster is Mail so him. 109 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: They pulled over for gas earlier than expected and then 110 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 1: followed the GPS directions back on course. After a few 111 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: minutes of driving, they realized that they are not on 112 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: the predetermined I ten path, but instead on Highway to 113 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 1: eight five heading north Texas. Right. It was yeah around there, yeah, so, 114 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: and that that happens sometimes, especially in this kind of 115 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: more desolate parts of our of our country, interstates and 116 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: highways kind of commingle and share the same share the 117 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 1: same I mean, not the numbers, but they will share 118 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: the same actual road, have the same number, can be 119 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: on the same stretch of road they spur off. So yeah, 120 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 1: that's true. But oftentimes you know you'll get this is 121 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 1: um I five I four oh five and also Highway 122 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: to eighteen and Highway one seven I mean, you know 123 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: that all on that same road. So they just kind 124 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: of thought, well, maybe this is what that's what's going 125 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: on there, um relized only too late. Yeah, and then 126 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: they so they just kept going, and then they make 127 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: it to New Mexico, but realized that they're about an 128 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: hour early crossing into New Mexico. Then they would have 129 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 1: been on I ten. So they realized that they're not 130 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: actually on I ten at all, and at this point 131 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 1: exactly right, and then at this point that they've just 132 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: gone too far. It would have been an hour faster 133 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 1: to stay on I ten, but at this point it's 134 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: not faster to backtrack all the way back to I 135 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: tend to go back up to Vegas. So they're just 136 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 1: staying on the roads. There are other ways to get 137 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,439 Speaker 1: back to River City, but they were, but they were 138 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: using a budget GPS unit, not a not a real 139 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: high dollar fancy one. Maybe that was part of it. Yeah, yeah, 140 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: I think it was part of it. But luckily there's 141 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: more than one road in the US. Sometimes they got 142 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: to find their way home. Yeah, and I've driven this 143 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:53,959 Speaker 1: stretch of road, this actual specific stretch of road. I 144 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: don't know if either of you have, but even even 145 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: in this part of the country, if you've ever driven 146 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: through it, you know, almost everything you encounter are like 147 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: pit spots or um like we exactly. Yeah, yeah, it's 148 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 1: you know, you maybe get a gas station. Maybe if 149 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 1: you're lucky, the gas station has like a subway connected 150 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: to it or something like. That's pretty much all that 151 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 1: exists there. And more often than not, it's a sign 152 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 1: that says huber this way, no services. The jackpot when 153 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 1: you get the pizza Hut taco bell combination. One of 154 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 1: my favorites is just last gas for two. But you 155 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:35,199 Speaker 1: want to pay attention to those signs, yeah, my favorite. 156 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 1: My second favorite is when it says last gas for 157 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 1: two hundred miles and then you drive ten miles down 158 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 1: the road in the risk there's way more. Yeah, and 159 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 1: there's actually a thriving city somehow. Yeah. So these guys 160 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 1: eventually hit a place called Vaughan, New Mexico. This is 161 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 1: like a four person population type spot, so, you know, 162 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:56,319 Speaker 1: not the wide spot on the road, but not thriving 163 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: community necessarily. You know. Actually I had to go do 164 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 1: a little street view on that one, and it looks 165 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: like I used to have more than four people. There's 166 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 1: a lot a lot of they're like boarded up buildings 167 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: on the main drag there. Yeah, I think most of 168 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:12,679 Speaker 1: the places through this area used to have a lot 169 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 1: more people, maybe at least some more people. Um and 170 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 1: and Sino they eventually drove through, after which I am 171 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:24,319 Speaker 1: not lying. When you google and Sin, no, the thing 172 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: that comes up is pictures of abandoned outhouses. Oh I 173 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 1: thought it was going to be that poly short movie. No, 174 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 1: that's the first thing it tries to suggest, but it 175 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:38,199 Speaker 1: is nope, nope. About ten miles by um the posters 176 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 1: estimation they drove to a town or a city. It 177 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 1: wasn't on their GPS. Again, this isn't insanely unusual. The 178 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 1: budget GPS is either you know, loose service and don't 179 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:55,199 Speaker 1: really update or stuff. Yeah, their maps are out of 180 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: date or whatever. But they also said that there was 181 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:01,559 Speaker 1: no no kind of signing around it, none of them 182 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 1: Ville next exit. Yeah, and actually this it sounds like 183 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 1: was not a poduncd vell. I mean there were a 184 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 1: lot of chain hotels and even like they said, like 185 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: in Albertson's and a number of chain restaurants. I mean, 186 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 1: it was a big enough they said they thought it 187 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 1: was like a ten to twenty thousand person population area, 188 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: which is fairly sizeable, particularly for that neck of the woods, 189 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:31,439 Speaker 1: and particularly to have like no signage or anything else 190 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 1: just pops up out of nowhere. Yeah yeah, kind of weird. Yeah, though, 191 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: I will say again, having been on long haul road 192 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:39,959 Speaker 1: trips like this, especially if they pulled a twenty two 193 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:44,079 Speaker 1: hour day the day before, sometimes you just stop paying 194 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: attention to the signs that are blowing past. You think 195 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 1: you might have been on the wrong road or I 196 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: I don't know really why what's happening there? They decide 197 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 1: to take advantage of not being at a little podunct wherever. No, 198 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:00,079 Speaker 1: you know, they don't want the the crappy burger and 199 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 1: yeah exactly, and stop in at Ruby Tuesdays for dinner day. 200 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 1: As soon as they walk in, they are greeted by 201 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 1: a waitress by name. I guess at this point we 202 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:14,839 Speaker 1: have to name them. We can do our standard Justin 203 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: and Aaron. Yeah yeah, I like they're good names. Yeah um. 204 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 1: But the waitress basically walks up to them with a 205 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: huge smile on her face and she says, oh my word, 206 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 1: is that Justin and Aaron. They both assume that like 207 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 1: one of the brothers knows her, you know, like Justin's like, oh, well, 208 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 1: Aaron obviously knows her, and Erin's like, well, Justin obviously 209 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 1: knows her. And they kind of vague their way through 210 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 1: some answers, you know, and she says, how are you 211 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:43,199 Speaker 1: doing blah blah blah, sits her down, and they sit down, 212 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: and she goes off to get the menus, and they 213 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 1: confer and they realize neither of them actually knows this woman, 214 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 1: and they think, well, Justin and Aaron are like pretty 215 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 1: common names. Maybe, you know, maybe maybe she's just that 216 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:02,439 Speaker 1: podcast saying a lot of people started naming their babies, 217 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 1: so yeah, they are pretty common names at that point. Ye. 218 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 1: Then a bartender comes over and says, no way, Justin 219 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 1: and Aaron, are you guys back for jobs. They informed 220 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: him that he must just like be mistaken because at 221 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 1: this point they realized they they are being mistaken for 222 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 1: somebody else apparently, and he just kind of laughs like 223 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 1: they're joking. The bartender continues by asking how they had 224 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 1: fared in their three month anatomy and physiology courses that 225 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 1: they've taken at Oregon State. Once it turned out they 226 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: had taken yeah, I mean, Joe, can you read this 227 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 1: next little bit? It's an actual quote, okay, okay quote. 228 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 1: I remember thinking, all of a sudden, this is not 229 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 1: a coincidence anymore. My brother and I had taken the 230 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 1: three months fifteen credit A and P class at Portland 231 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 1: State University when we were in our early twenties. We 232 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 1: were late twenties when this interaction happened. Finally, I asked 233 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 1: the guy again exactly where they knew us from, and 234 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 1: he just kind of paused and started looking me over. 235 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 1: Then he said, oh, you guys just like really similar 236 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 1: to some people that used to work here unquote. He 237 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 1: apologized and claimed they had to get back to work. 238 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:08,559 Speaker 1: After a bit, our food came and my brother and 239 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:10,439 Speaker 1: I noticed it had switched out our waitress from the 240 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 1: girl who recognized us when we walked in. That wasn't 241 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 1: a big deal, though a bit strange. Next, a guy 242 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 1: I can only guess was the manager starts walking over 243 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: to our table with a big smile on his face. 244 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 1: As he guess with him about ten feet of us. 245 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 1: He kind of starts looking over my head and stops. 246 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 1: I think someone behind me was directing him not to 247 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 1: talk to us. After he received the message. You sharply 248 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 1: turned ninety degrees and walked away without saying a word unquote. 249 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 1: I mean it's weird and awkward, but yeah, a little bit, 250 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 1: you know, nothing like too crazy. That's kind of crazy. 251 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: I mean they basically you can tell they are not comfortable. 252 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be. And they finished their meal as quickly 253 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 1: as possible, and the new waitress comes back and says, oh, 254 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 1: our cash register system is down, so your meals around 255 00:14:56,640 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: the house, which is again like a chain doesn't normally 256 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 1: do that, just to just sit there for the next minutes, 257 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 1: or you know, you need cash, like we have a 258 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 1: t M. There's an a t M down the way. 259 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 1: Just pay us cash something to get paid. Uh. Justin 260 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: says that he wanted to ask where they were, but 261 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 1: also just like really wanted to get out of there, 262 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 1: which I can totally sympathize with. There are some moments 263 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: where you're just like, oh my god, I gotta get 264 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 1: out of here. I need to know more, but I 265 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 1: gotta get out of here. They figured they had to 266 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 1: stop for gas anyway, so they would you get the 267 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: little receipt and it says, you know X on mobile 268 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 1: Portland's northeast or what I mean. You know, it says 269 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 1: where you're basically right. Um. But unfortunately, as they were 270 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 1: getting on the highway it was divided, so they were 271 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 1: forced to turn right out of the restaurant, putting them 272 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 1: back directly onto northbound eight five thank you, which basically 273 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: forced them back on the road without being able to 274 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: fuel up. So they drove for about twenty more minutes 275 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 1: and then found a truck stop where they stopped, which 276 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 1: ended up being right at the intersection of two five 277 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 1: and I forty. Uh and I forty is the road 278 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 1: that you would take for the rest of pretty much 279 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 1: the rest of your journey westward. Um. Yeah, so you can. 280 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 1: You can see this all on on Google. You can 281 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: see the area and everything. Yeah. Yeah. And so the 282 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 1: the other reason that this is weird is that there 283 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 1: is nothing there really isn't between Encino and the junction 284 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 1: of two eighty five and I forty. Actually, there is 285 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 1: a little phantom business there called Ruby Tuesdays. I forget 286 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 1: what it is. I was looking at something like, you know, 287 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 1: Mike's Mike's Repair or something like that, but it's certainly 288 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 1: not a Ruby Tuesdays. No, when you look it's actually 289 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: labeled to Google. But when you actually nothing there. Yeah, 290 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 1: so that's the thing. I attached a map to this, 291 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 1: so you guys got to look at it, which is 292 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 1: pretty cool. But that's like the weirdness of this whole thing. 293 00:16:57,360 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 1: I mean, on top of everything else, right, there is 294 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 1: nothing in there, literally nothing. I mean it's a pretty 295 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:09,120 Speaker 1: short stretch of road, yeah, and there's nothing there. Yeah. 296 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 1: It's interesting though. It's actually if you look at if 297 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:14,120 Speaker 1: you street, you and everything, it's it's a double highway, 298 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 1: so it's too lazy direction with with a nice me 299 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:20,119 Speaker 1: radian in between, considering and I checked the traffic flow 300 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: on that. But through the state of New Mexico, that 301 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 1: little stretch in there is two thousand, two hundred forty 302 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 1: seven cars a day. That's a that's a lot of 303 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 1: really nice asphalt for that number of cars. And uh 304 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:36,199 Speaker 1: it really is. Uh yeah, that's a big, beautiful highway 305 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 1: going straight as an arrow. Yeah. Well, actually, somebody on Reddit, 306 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: since this was a Reddit post, somebody on Reddit took 307 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 1: the time they lived close and they they actually took 308 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 1: a picture. They drove this entire journey, you know, from Vaughan, 309 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: New Mexico, all the way to this truck stop that 310 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 1: the guy said they stopped at and took a picture 311 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 1: pretty much every couple of miles, every time they saw 312 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 1: something of any kind of interest. And there's nothing there. 313 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 1: So here's the question, and I I So I looked 314 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 1: at the map you had and spun around a little 315 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:10,360 Speaker 1: bit on the map, but I didn't do any extensive searching. 316 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:16,360 Speaker 1: Is it at all possible that are our storyteller? That's 317 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 1: how I'm going to refer to him, our storyteller diverted 318 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 1: yet again from the road they thought they were all 319 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 1: I had that que I had that question exactly, and 320 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:32,880 Speaker 1: I will tell you know because they said they went 321 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 1: through Vaughan and Encino, and those are two very distinct 322 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 1: points and then either you can go straight and then 323 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 1: you hit the border, or you go up and you 324 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 1: intersect with I forty. They know that they stopped within 325 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 1: an hour of Encino, give or take, you know, actual 326 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:57,640 Speaker 1: driving distance an hour of Encino. They hit the junction 327 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 1: of UM to A five and I forty. And the 328 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:05,919 Speaker 1: only place that that those two intersect is that truck stop. 329 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:10,399 Speaker 1: Now granted, they could have yes gone diverted, but to 330 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 1: divert they would have hit like a bunch of major cities, 331 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 1: major cities, and they would have been hundreds, if not 332 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 1: thousands of miles off course and so wrong about where 333 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:26,920 Speaker 1: they're at them they would have known. Yeah, And that 334 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 1: was one of the things is like, you know, one 335 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 1: of the theories on this is like they were just wrong, 336 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 1: but they would have had been really, really wrong. The 337 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 1: other thing is is that, um, if you look at 338 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 1: Ruby Tuesday's website or even a historic log of where 339 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 1: Ruby Tuesdays are in New Mexico, there's only one and 340 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 1: it's two hundred and five miles away from where they 341 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 1: claim they were, and it's actually a pretty decent sized city. Yeah, 342 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:54,159 Speaker 1: you have to be really wrong. And of course this 343 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:57,160 Speaker 1: wouldn't be the first time that somebody were wrong about something. 344 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 1: I mean, it could have been they were at Ruby's Tuesday. 345 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 1: I was a chain what I mean it could have been, Yeah, 346 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 1: it's not the chain Ruby Tuesdays. It could have been 347 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:10,400 Speaker 1: something that was very similarly named or Rusday. Yeah, yeah, 348 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: Ruby Rubies. I mean they represented it as the reason 349 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 1: that they were excited about it is you guys may 350 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 1: remember that the first Ruby Tuesdays in Portland's started opening 351 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 1: up around two nine or whenever the story we're being 352 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: excited about. No, I wasn't excited. But you know that's 353 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 1: kind of when they came here. And so the reason 354 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:34,239 Speaker 1: that they had chosen that particular chain is because they 355 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 1: were like, oh, those are opening up around us. Let's 356 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:40,400 Speaker 1: see if it's any good. So here, and but yes, 357 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: I will allow I will allow a whole lot of 358 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 1: error here. But even like the most amount of error 359 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 1: can't get me a random city in the middle of 360 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:53,680 Speaker 1: basically what is just like wasteland. So were we in theories? Now? 361 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 1: Is that where we're at here? Yeah? I mean this 362 00:20:55,520 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 1: isn't this isn't thinking sideways what it is talking about 363 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 1: what it could be? Yeah, okay, but before we talk 364 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 1: about theories, let's take a break. 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To well, it's very conveniently peppered 427 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 1: with true details, but then diverts from those rather corputate. 428 00:24:55,920 --> 00:25:00,920 Speaker 1: So um, shut up, stop tiring. Um. I mean, yes, 429 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 1: of course that is a theory that this is totally 430 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,919 Speaker 1: made up, but it's I'm just having fun kind of 431 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 1: entertaining the other options. How far away is this from 432 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:13,639 Speaker 1: Roswell's actually passed through Rowell to get to where they were. Okay, 433 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 1: so it's entirely possible that this is an after effect 434 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,440 Speaker 1: of Roswell. The whole thing was in their heads because 435 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 1: they were doped up. Actually, that's like an interesting thing 436 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 1: is that there are two really interesting theories about that. One, 437 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 1: as we're playing along, right, is that it's possible that 438 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 1: they could have been abducted by aliens and then had 439 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 1: these memories implanted in their brain to supersede whatever horrible 440 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 1: things they experienced serience. The other theory is that they're 441 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 1: actually spies. No wait, no, wait, this is I mean, 442 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,920 Speaker 1: this isn't the worst theory ever, right, Okay, they're actually 443 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 1: so that all of this aside. Right, we just assumed 444 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,880 Speaker 1: that they were actually out of Ruby Tuesdays where everybody 445 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 1: knew who they were for some reason. It's the new 446 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 1: Mexico version of cheer sure, right, for some reason they 447 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:05,160 Speaker 1: were like somehow, yes, they found this Ruby Tuesdays where 448 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 1: everybody knew who they were. It seems totally unreasonable. They 449 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 1: were in the totally the wrong place. But the other 450 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 1: theory part of this is that like that was all real, 451 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 1: but their spies and they've had their memories wiped and replanted, 452 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 1: and so all of the people at Ruby Tuesdays did 453 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 1: actually know them, They did actually used to work there. 454 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 1: They just have no memory of it because their spies 455 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:36,160 Speaker 1: and have been brainwashed to believe that there's the exactly Yea, 456 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:38,919 Speaker 1: I like that theory a lot, except you think that 457 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 1: they they were going to wipe their memories, they would 458 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 1: have also given them like new names and identities to 459 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 1: you would think, yeah, yeah, I am looking. I am 460 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 1: desperately looking through Google right now. For there was some 461 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 1: really really crappy Roswell movie. They came out probably in 462 00:26:55,560 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: the last five years, and that's something like this Happen 463 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,360 Speaker 1: No No, But the plot of it, it's it's by 464 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 1: the same guy that he's has a bunch of those 465 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 1: really shaky camera movies. It's really cheaply made, and there's 466 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 1: like Blair Wedge Project, right, but there's been one or 467 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:13,120 Speaker 1: two that are hits and the rest of them are 468 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,400 Speaker 1: just garbage. But it makes me think of that kind 469 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:20,159 Speaker 1: of thing where this could have been somebody's script concept 470 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,639 Speaker 1: for that kind of movie that the shaky camp like 471 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:27,639 Speaker 1: four hours in the car they rolled down the window, 472 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 1: they're talking to the camera that I mean that's this 473 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 1: is or it could be that they were just abductive, 474 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,439 Speaker 1: but I think it I agree. I think it probably 475 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 1: is made up, but it's still like a crazy like 476 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,679 Speaker 1: on the off chance it's not, it's a crazy, fun, 477 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 1: interesting story that I wanted to share. I admire that 478 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 1: that that he didn't overdo it with the dramatic elements. 479 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:49,479 Speaker 1: That was that's good. If he did make it up, 480 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 1: it's it's like, you know, the whole thing about it 481 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 1: is it's it's very mundane. You know, he's not dramatized. 482 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 1: It's not a real dramatic story. The reason that falls 483 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 1: down for me is I'm totally into the whole time slip, alternative, 484 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:07,439 Speaker 1: alternative timeline and all that stuff. But here's the problem 485 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:11,199 Speaker 1: is that, uh, nobody would put a Ruby Tuesdays franchise 486 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 1: on a highway that has less than cars a day, well, right, 487 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 1: I mean alternative timeline. Well, but in an alternative timeline 488 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 1: that could have been the main highway. I mean, you know, 489 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 1: they're the only reason that it wouldn't because it wasn't 490 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 1: like this lone Ruby Tuesday is hanging out by itself. 491 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,679 Speaker 1: There was a bustling little area, so you would assume 492 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 1: that in this alternate timeline, if they did happen to 493 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 1: slip into it or whatever. Um, that that for whatever reason, 494 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 1: that would have been a kind of hub in the area. 495 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 1: That occurred to me too. But here's here's where. Here's 496 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 1: where it fell down again for me. Okay, there's a 497 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 1: there's a there's this whole city that is not there 498 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 1: in our our timeline, and and so that means that 499 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 1: there's a lot more people. So he should have noticed, 500 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 1: you know, the notice the city. But they should have 501 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 1: notice all of a sudden, we realized there's ten times 502 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 1: as many cars on the road around us. Where did 503 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 1: they all come from? All of a sudden, we notice 504 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 1: that we're driving through this town and there's like there's 505 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 1: like overpasses and stuff. And that's the first overpass we've 506 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 1: seen it in this entire highway the entire time. Things 507 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 1: like that. They didn't notice any of those things. I agree, 508 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 1: I think. While Steve's over there on his phone, I'm actually, 509 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 1: that's okay, well that's what I'm usually doing, so fine. Um, 510 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:35,720 Speaker 1: But I mean, realistically maybe, but I feel like I've 511 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 1: taken so many road trips in my life where there 512 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 1: have been times where we've hit this kind of weird 513 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 1: little bubble. And it's not like there are suddenly more people. 514 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 1: We are still the only car on the highway. But 515 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 1: that doesn't mean I mean, who knows what time. It 516 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 1: sounds like it was later in the day. Maybe it 517 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 1: was a weird time that they hit it, but it 518 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 1: just the impression that they did it right around lunchtime 519 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 1: or something. But that could be wrong about I guess 520 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 1: it was like later dinner time in my mind. But 521 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, again, like that's not given, and 522 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 1: so that that gives us that kind of reasonable doubt 523 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 1: of being able to say, well, maybe it was a 524 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 1: weird time, And I mean, you know, I don't, I 525 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 1: don't know. I just I would say that things like, um, 526 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 1: you know, when you drive out to the coast, you 527 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 1: drive into Telemook for instance, Right, Telemooks kind of the 528 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 1: same size as I would guess this area was probably 529 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 1: a little probably probably a little bigger. But you know, 530 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 1: you can drive on twenty six, or you can drive 531 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 1: on the Telemook through the Telemook Forest, right, it doesn't 532 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 1: I've I've driven both ways a number of times, and 533 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 1: I've never felt you going either way that suddenly there 534 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 1: were more or less cars on either of them. The 535 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 1: twenty six gets way more traffic than the road through 536 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 1: the Telemook Forest, right, I don't. I think it always 537 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: feels about the same amount of traffic perception, Yeah, I 538 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 1: don't know. I mean suddenly when they get into town though, 539 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 1: there should have been all of a sudden a lot 540 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:05,720 Speaker 1: more cars around, and there may have been, and they 541 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 1: just didn't because because there was tended people. He was like, yeah, 542 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 1: of course there's more traffic. I don't know. As we 543 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 1: thought as we talked about this when I was on 544 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 1: my phone for is that this really really makes me 545 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 1: think about I cannot find the name of it, but 546 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 1: years ago I read it was a book or a 547 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 1: short book or a story by Stephen King where essentially 548 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 1: this person was driving all the time and making fantastic 549 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,479 Speaker 1: different distances, and the concept was if you have a 550 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 1: flat paper map, but you fold the map and you 551 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 1: connect the to the the road from the two folded edges, 552 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 1: you cut out all that distance, but you go through 553 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 1: this weird kind of fantasy space that makes me think. 554 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 1: But it's it has the same quality, in the same 555 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 1: feel as the things that are described in that like 556 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 1: I almost feel like a rip off of King in 557 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 1: a way that I mean, that sounds like not intentionally, 558 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 1: but the King probably ripped off Reddit. Yeah, that sounds 559 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 1: like a wrinkle in time to me. So are you 560 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,880 Speaker 1: sure it's Stephen King? I really feel like it was 561 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 1: Stephen King. But it's a theory of time travel in 562 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 1: general is that you just wrinkle two things and stop. 563 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 1: Actually he did mention that he picked up that road 564 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 1: Atlas to the western US and that which is market America. 565 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 1: They did, he didn't, But that's okay. Anyway, UM, do 566 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 1: you guys feel like you have anything more that you want? 567 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 1: I mean, this is a weird story, I want to 568 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 1: be honest, but I hope you enjoyed it. Yeah, it's good. 569 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 1: Sure they made it up. Like I said, I don't 570 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 1: think that you're going to find it because even in 571 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 1: the alternative timeline, I still don't understand why anybody would 572 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 1: plant the city in a particulous spot because I've looked 573 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 1: at it. Why do they planning cities in any typically? 574 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 1: But anyway, I hope that everybody else got to enjoy this. 575 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 1: UM as a little bonus something. 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Um. 586 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 1: But otherwise um, Yeah, thanks for going to get out 587 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 1: of here to lou. We'll see you next time. Get 588 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 1: burger okay,