WEBVTT - Creative Ways to Advance Your Career (How-To Monday)

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, hey, bee fam, I'm so excited to bring you

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<v Speaker 1>another how To throwback. I hope you guys enjoy this,

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<v Speaker 1>We will read them on the show. And yeah, we

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<v Speaker 1>just love y'all so much. Okay, here is our how

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<v Speaker 1>To episode for this week. Welcome to this studio and

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<v Speaker 1>a banana.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi. What are you doing cause I'm doing great? How

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<v Speaker 2>are you?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm fine?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Our relationship is kind of like I feel like for

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<v Speaker 1>each of us, you know, actually it's like the opposite

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<v Speaker 1>of what they say, like when you're drowning and someone

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<v Speaker 1>comes to save you, but like they kind of push

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<v Speaker 1>you down with the you know and stop it. I

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna say, we're the opposite will be when we're together,

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<v Speaker 1>we're both trying to lift each other up. Now, if

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<v Speaker 1>you want to get into it, by lifting you up

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<v Speaker 1>some times does feel like taking you down just because

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<v Speaker 1>insult her language.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah, language. I'm going to believe

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<v Speaker 2>my whole life, so this is just your way of

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<v Speaker 2>loving me, and I'm creat she don't believe her.

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<v Speaker 1>She's not a bit. She gives it as good as

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<v Speaker 1>she gets Okay, she gives it as good as she gets.

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<v Speaker 1>So for the Brown ambition audience, why do I have

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<v Speaker 1>Anna on the show? I'm going to do a live

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<v Speaker 1>kind of I want to do a live career coaching

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<v Speaker 1>session with Anna, but first I want to give some backstory.

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<v Speaker 1>So Anna is ten years younger than me. Wee and

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<v Speaker 1>I have agent, but she's in her mid twenties, which

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<v Speaker 1>means you know what I am. Anyway, I used to baby,

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<v Speaker 1>said Anna when she was just over the toll, twelve

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<v Speaker 1>year old peanut in my pocket. And now, well a

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<v Speaker 1>decade later, it was the pandemic, right, I was obviously struggling.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a baby, a newborn, and I was trying

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<v Speaker 1>to like balance that with working. Couldn't have childcare because

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<v Speaker 1>everything seemed too dangerous, so I was doing I was

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<v Speaker 1>like breastfeeding, having the baby at home.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was living back home and I was in Georgia,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was just having like the worst mental everything.

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing was working. I was just not happy. I was

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<v Speaker 2>very like, I was just like a mess. But then

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<v Speaker 2>Nandy just called me out of the blue, No, yahay,

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<v Speaker 2>every Thursday I was worried about you. I was so yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm in the world and I and I just

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<v Speaker 2>hated whenever, like someone has to worry about them because

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, damn and that, like, am I that fragile?

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, your love really did show through. And

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<v Speaker 2>I told you to get down the ups and the downs,

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<v Speaker 2>more downs and ups. And then I think we both

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<v Speaker 2>asked ourselves the same questions, like you were trying to

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<v Speaker 2>warm me up to the idea of moving, and I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, I was like, I need to get out

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<v Speaker 2>of the state. I need to leave. And then it

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<v Speaker 2>just happened where we're like, Okay, we're gonna do this.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I said when it was so funny because

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<v Speaker 1>it was around.

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<v Speaker 2>I felt like I was plotting on you, but you

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<v Speaker 2>were planning on.

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<v Speaker 1>I was plotting on you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we were.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know because you have a husband. I wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>trying to You were like, please a DoPT.

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<v Speaker 1>Well you were living with one of our what with

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<v Speaker 1>your auntie on your mom's side, so not my auntie anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>and you were I remember, forget this phone call when

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<v Speaker 1>you called.

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<v Speaker 2>Me and you're like, I can't.

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<v Speaker 1>You're twenty two, so you're doing a lot of twenty

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<v Speaker 1>You were at the time anyway, right, twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>Two, twenty three, twenty two, yeah, twenty time.

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<v Speaker 1>But at the time you were like doing what door

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<v Speaker 1>dash you had time.

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<v Speaker 2>I was doing Instacar. I was working on Amazon.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh the he warehouse home good.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, I was working. I was working.

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<v Speaker 1>But you ain't never not worked, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>You ain't never not a working girl.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, I was all there.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, but at this time I remember because I remember

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<v Speaker 1>when I really I was already worried about you because

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<v Speaker 1>I could tell when I was talking to you that

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<v Speaker 1>you were struggling. That's why I was like, I think

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<v Speaker 1>that in the spring before, I was like, we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to talk every Thursday at nine pm. Put it on

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<v Speaker 1>the calendar. We're doing it, And we did anyway, and

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<v Speaker 1>I just I just wanted to like keep you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't see you, so I just wanted to like

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<v Speaker 1>at least talk to you so I could be sure

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<v Speaker 1>that you're okay. So anyway, we we only all I'll

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<v Speaker 1>say you yeah. Ever since I was like I fell

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<v Speaker 1>in love with you and with Ariel and RJ and

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<v Speaker 1>all that, but I mean like really fell in love,

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<v Speaker 1>Like oh this is my like my bonus family. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but you're not always so close with cousins anyhow. So

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<v Speaker 1>we had this connection. I could tell when you were

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<v Speaker 1>off and so I we met all summer long and

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<v Speaker 1>then this in the in the fall, we were like,

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta I'm going to join this. What were you

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<v Speaker 1>going to sell kitchen knives?

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<v Speaker 2>She's like, it's okay, I got a top.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna try. I'm I'm gonna start my own business.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna sell knives.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was a scam. It was a scam.

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<v Speaker 1>It was an mL it was a multi level marketing.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like one of those pyramid scheme type things.

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<v Speaker 1>People will probably there were.

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<v Speaker 2>So many that were hitting me up there, you won't date.

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<v Speaker 2>I was globle.

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<v Speaker 1>You want to make money overnight, you want to own

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<v Speaker 1>your work hours, you can work from home.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>You're like yeah, yeah, because you want some value. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So they got you, and thank god you told me

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<v Speaker 1>because I was like, right now, we need to, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I felt like.

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<v Speaker 2>I was in trouble. She's like absolutely, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So because you were going to buy like a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of knives.

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<v Speaker 2>And have it just didn't make sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Sitting house and you're the interview.

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<v Speaker 2>I was doing the interview like on my on my

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<v Speaker 2>little tiny desk with like fifteen other people, and I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, what is this? Yeah, and then yeah it

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<v Speaker 2>was Yeah, it was a hot mess dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>So we had this conversation and I was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really struggling with this, and I already was scheming.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, wouldn't it be perfect if Anna just could

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<v Speaker 1>be here like here, I could keep an eye on

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<v Speaker 1>her because somehow I'm working on this too. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to like protect and fix everybody. I don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>do that. But at the time, I was like, I

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<v Speaker 1>can keep an eye on her because I'm really worried

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<v Speaker 1>about her. And also I think she would really enjoy

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<v Speaker 1>watching my child for me so that I could start

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<v Speaker 1>my new job. And we had the conversation and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, so, I mean and I.

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<v Speaker 2>Was like, so, you know, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Feel like what you really need is like you'd be

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<v Speaker 1>great helping a family who just you know, was working

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<v Speaker 1>really hard and just had trouble finding childcare during the pandemic,

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<v Speaker 1>like and you were like, yeah, that sounds like a

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<v Speaker 1>good idea. And I said, do you know anybody like

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<v Speaker 1>that that you can think of?

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<v Speaker 2>And your little voice.

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<v Speaker 1>Well like you, I'm like, yeah, thank you for offering,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a great idea.

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<v Speaker 2>That was the funniest conversation. And I was like I

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<v Speaker 2>was plotting on you. I was like, oh, how's your

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<v Speaker 2>upstairs bedroom looking like it's vacant?

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<v Speaker 1>It saved both of our lives, no, for real, right,

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<v Speaker 1>it did?

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<v Speaker 2>It did for sure?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So cut to and when you moved in. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>again because I have a bit of a like fixer personality,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, you were you were not finished with

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<v Speaker 1>like college, your degree, no job and all that. So

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, also, while you were here, let's let's

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<v Speaker 1>have some personal finance conversations. Let's you know, really untangle

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<v Speaker 1>you from that uncle.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so Anna's yeah, you talk a little bit about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Where you were in terms of like you were twenty yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you were like twenty three. But also you were like

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<v Speaker 1>with your relationship with your father, not feeling financially free.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, yeah, Like I just grew up of he hands

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<v Speaker 2>me money and then I deal with it. So whenever

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<v Speaker 2>I had like my financial struggles, he would always have

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<v Speaker 2>like a string attached to whatever dollar is behind it.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was just very exhausted and tire trying to

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<v Speaker 2>chase what he's giving me. And then I have to

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<v Speaker 2>this mental load that I had to pay him for

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<v Speaker 2>the price of whatever amount of dollars. And I remember

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<v Speaker 2>when I moved to you, he cut me off financially

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<v Speaker 2>and this owed me and all this extra stuff. So

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<v Speaker 2>my mental health was like down was down the street.

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<v Speaker 2>It was terrible.

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<v Speaker 1>And can you be specific when you say you had

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<v Speaker 1>to pay him for the money, like what were the

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<v Speaker 1>strings attached?

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<v Speaker 2>It would just be his controlling ways when it comes

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<v Speaker 2>to finances, like if I maybe had an attitude, he

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<v Speaker 2>was like, well I do X y Z for you,

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<v Speaker 2>and you're going to do this to me after I

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<v Speaker 2>gave you this amount of money for school, or just

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<v Speaker 2>like just being his daughter, just asking for money here

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<v Speaker 2>and there. It's always like an issue or problem. So

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<v Speaker 2>that's whenever I just I wanted to stop asking him

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<v Speaker 2>for money completely. So that's why I was working those

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<v Speaker 2>those numerous jobs just to get myself together. And then

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<v Speaker 2>you know, my mental health is just taking a toll

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<v Speaker 2>for you know, all the finances that had to deal

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<v Speaker 2>with that with him and myself because you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a little price sy. I noticed he was spoiled for

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<v Speaker 2>a price.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, and also it was to the point where

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<v Speaker 1>he it was like, I'll pay for school, but you

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<v Speaker 1>got to study what I think is a good degree.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, right, yeah, yeah, totally, So that level of control. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and then the thing about me, I just I don't

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<v Speaker 2>do well with control like that, Like I I'll just

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<v Speaker 2>stop everything if I don't. I just don't feel like

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<v Speaker 2>you should live your life for your parents, and I

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<v Speaker 2>learned that the hard way.

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<v Speaker 1>Well you were, and I mean, like it was so

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<v Speaker 1>heartbreaking to see. I mean how tough it was for you.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think are the biggest changes that have

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<v Speaker 1>happened since you moved in with me? For those who

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<v Speaker 1>are watching on YouTube, you might be able to note

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<v Speaker 1>the most significant change. We're not in the same place.

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<v Speaker 2>Why I was able to moz out. I have a

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<v Speaker 2>lovely roommate. She's great, But it was just so nice

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<v Speaker 2>to buy things with money that I worked hard for

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<v Speaker 2>and earned. And I just feel like the hard work

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<v Speaker 2>really did pay off. And I appreciate you your skin.

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<v Speaker 1>Over the hard work. What have you accomplished.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's let's stity with it, girl. Okay, okay, I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>get me over Yeah, definitely my mental health for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>I received so much healing from the past, like year,

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<v Speaker 2>two years, almost.

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<v Speaker 1>Three three, Yeah, I mean three years.

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<v Speaker 2>I almost a big three. But yeah, I've seen a

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<v Speaker 2>huge turnout from my mental health about you know, how

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<v Speaker 2>I felt about myself boundaries. That was a huge thing

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<v Speaker 2>that I had to develop. I didn't have any like,

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<v Speaker 2>especially with my parents. Whatever they said when I didn't care,

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<v Speaker 2>like they didn't care if I didn't so comfortable. I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't care if I didn't so comfortable. I just did

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<v Speaker 2>what I was told. So whenever I was this song,

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, all right, if I'm really disowned, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna do what I what I please, and well in

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<v Speaker 2>a respectful way. It took me a long devastated. I

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<v Speaker 2>was heartbroken. Yeah, and then you know therapy.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what, but listen for those who are But

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<v Speaker 1>did he actually it was a no.

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<v Speaker 2>It lasted three I think it lasted three months. And

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<v Speaker 2>then he said, how are you doing? I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I was, so.

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<v Speaker 1>You're like, yeah, so try to survive without this cute face,

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<v Speaker 1>this incredible.

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<v Speaker 2>Daughter. You got keen, you can't never get rid of me.

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<v Speaker 2>I got. I got off of everything.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't need a car anymore. He owned the car you.

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<v Speaker 2>As soon as I moved here, he sold my car

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, that's fine, I don't need it.

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<v Speaker 2>And then he was more upset that I didn't care.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, okay, that's fine.

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<v Speaker 1>And he had it was that was what he did.

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<v Speaker 1>A tantrum he.

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<v Speaker 2>Did, and then I think he hit you up and

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<v Speaker 2>was very very angry towards you about it.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's move into the career and finance side. What

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<v Speaker 1>kind of what kind of like strides have you made?

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<v Speaker 1>Because you came here in no full time job, no

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<v Speaker 1>job period, not the knives thing, and no money of

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<v Speaker 1>your own, So like, when did you start taking no strides?

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<v Speaker 1>What are the big accomplishments you've made?

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<v Speaker 2>I think at that time, whenever I was hoping, I was,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, your lovely son, my godson. I was really

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<v Speaker 2>ready to just start working again to make money for myself,

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<v Speaker 2>to move out, to say to you know, spend things

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<v Speaker 2>on myself, to give back to you guys with whatever

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<v Speaker 2>is needed, you know. And then I found a job

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<v Speaker 2>doing executive assisting work for this unknown fashion and jewelry company.

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<v Speaker 2>That was the worst.

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<v Speaker 1>Touch on that later, but you needed a like a

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<v Speaker 1>non part time, like a retail part you wanted, you wanted.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I wanted full time. I wanted to hit the

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<v Speaker 2>ground running.

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<v Speaker 1>But and you who were like, what's your degree in?

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<v Speaker 2>What? Healthcare administration? Yeah, health care administration.

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<v Speaker 1>We got you a LinkedIn page, right, remember that. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to tell y'all. Anna is a boomer in

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<v Speaker 1>a Generation Z suit body like you. And it's just like,

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<v Speaker 1>here's your a ARP card, here's your handicap.

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<v Speaker 2>I grew up sheltered. I grew up sheltered. So I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, what is this, Like she's more Gen Z

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<v Speaker 2>than me. Yeah, I just know the terms, but she

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<v Speaker 2>knows like the logistics, she knows the you know, technology.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So you got a LinkedIn page. It was

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<v Speaker 1>like you need a presence, so we put some job

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<v Speaker 1>experience there. Yeah, we said that you were my assistant.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't ever ask me for a reference because.

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<v Speaker 2>That's too late. You weren't the best, you weren't. I

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<v Speaker 2>was dealing with so much mental it's like, yeah, you're

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<v Speaker 2>my assistant.

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<v Speaker 1>She's like what.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was just so overwhelmed, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I did not what you said slack. I said, what

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<v Speaker 2>is slack. She did, she wouldn't be my idea, and

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I couldn't I know, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, try to do my email.

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<v Speaker 2>She was just one and slack.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, so, just you focus on the babies.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll give you the title my admin. Anyway, but you

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<v Speaker 1>got a job assisting and then from but that point

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<v Speaker 1>is you had something on your resume, and then from

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<v Speaker 1>there then you got the job you did like a

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<v Speaker 1>lot more. Well, actually you that job was so toxic

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<v Speaker 1>that you quit?

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<v Speaker 2>It was? It was, yeah, it was so Me and

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<v Speaker 2>my roommate we worked at the same job before and

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<v Speaker 2>then she quit a little bit before me. It was

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<v Speaker 2>just such a toxic work environment and nothing was getting done,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, I want to put my efforts

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<v Speaker 2>into something else that would appreciate me. So you know,

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<v Speaker 2>when I quit, I shouldn't have done that. That was

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<v Speaker 2>not smart. Why do you say, but I did, because,

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<v Speaker 2>like I was, I didn't have a job for like

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<v Speaker 2>maybe a month. When I tell you, I was a

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<v Speaker 2>ply into a to z jobs more like to the

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<v Speaker 2>day I woke up to like at night, I was applying.

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<v Speaker 2>Interviews were happening, but they weren't good enough or just

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't the right fit.

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<v Speaker 1>And then my current scam kind of like LinkedIn messages, what.

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<v Speaker 2>Do people do that as like people are like strog.

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<v Speaker 1>Going all the way to Manhattan to find out it

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<v Speaker 1>was like what was the thing where they sent you

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<v Speaker 1>home with a big textbook, like a real estate textbook.

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<v Speaker 1>They wanted you to.

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<v Speaker 2>I honestly wanted to forget that happened, and for you

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<v Speaker 2>to bring that up is very triggering.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so sorry, but you went through it, and honestly

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<v Speaker 1>a month doesn't see that. But I'm interested. You said

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<v Speaker 1>it was a bad idea to quit. Yes, it was

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<v Speaker 1>at the time. I'm not going to lie I was.

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<v Speaker 1>I was a little worried. I'm like, yes you were,

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<v Speaker 1>but I was trying to let you do your own thing,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. And honestly, I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>it was a mistake because a couple months later you

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<v Speaker 1>got the job in the SPA, right, and you just

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<v Speaker 1>found that on LinkedIn? Is that right or indeed or something?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm in one bed and it was just it looks

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<v Speaker 2>sketchy applying for it, but I was like, you know what, everything.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, yes, it hadn't opened yet. It was a news.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a break. It was in the it was

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<v Speaker 2>being built as I was applying. So whenever I got

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<v Speaker 2>the job, interview OV and I was like, oh, can

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<v Speaker 2>I see the spot. It was like construction walls. There

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<v Speaker 2>was wood exposed, and they said, yeah, this is it.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, I see the potential. And I think after

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<v Speaker 2>the interview went well, and then you told me to

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<v Speaker 2>write a letter to you know, show my appreciation, and

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<v Speaker 2>at first forget I remember now.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember I dropped you off to give them the

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<v Speaker 1>thank you note.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah you did, and I think it was like it

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<v Speaker 2>was like a nice little card. It was yellow. It

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<v Speaker 2>was like a yellow flower, yellows your your brand, I

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<v Speaker 2>see you know. Yeah. And then I got the call

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<v Speaker 2>that I got the job, and I was so ecstatic.

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<v Speaker 2>When I tell you, I was struggling financially. I was.

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<v Speaker 2>I was living off my savings. Like I think one

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<v Speaker 2>time I didn't have enough for two pays if I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't want to go into my I mean I.

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<v Speaker 1>Think I started to ask you to pay rent because

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<v Speaker 1>I was frin to get you a little ready for

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<v Speaker 1>the real world. I was going to do that thing

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<v Speaker 1>where you just put the money aside and give it

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<v Speaker 1>back to you at the end of yeah, but that's

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<v Speaker 1>when you quit, and I was like, oh, so the

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<v Speaker 1>renting she really.

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<v Speaker 2>Got to stop. But no, I felt like such a

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<v Speaker 2>loser because I was like, why would I do that

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<v Speaker 2>with that like a plan B. And I was just

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<v Speaker 2>like I was so scared and so like eager to know,

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<v Speaker 2>like what's next, what's the next move? Like what can

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<v Speaker 2>you do? And then you know, I got the I

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<v Speaker 2>got the call, I got the job, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, I can relax a little bit more. And

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<v Speaker 2>then well.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna we're gonna take a quick break. But before

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<v Speaker 1>we do, I want to just kind of like round

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<v Speaker 1>out that phase because I feel like for you, it

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<v Speaker 1>was about listen, your dad chose your major right health

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<v Speaker 1>care and admin, which which isn't a bad major. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's obviously a hot field. It's a it's on

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<v Speaker 1>the come up, and you got to you still kept up,

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<v Speaker 1>like with your studies virtually while you were working full time.

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<v Speaker 1>But at the same time, you knew you didn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to like work in a hospital, like just like at

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<v Speaker 1>a desk, you know what I mean. But you did

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<v Speaker 1>have this interest in beauty and care, which I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like is something that you know, you go to a

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<v Speaker 1>controlling dad and you're like, hey, I want to work

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<v Speaker 1>in the spa beauty industry and he's like, what is that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's woman's stuff. It can't be good, it can't be lucrative.

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<v Speaker 1>Police but it made it was like the whenever I'm

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<v Speaker 1>helping someone and coaching them through like a pivot or

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<v Speaker 1>trying to figure out how do I make a career

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<v Speaker 1>that I love out of a couple out of like

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<v Speaker 1>the job history that I have, which I don't love.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's like not exactly like there's not like a

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<v Speaker 1>lateral like a connection, you know, but for you, there's

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<v Speaker 1>enough there, like you know, the admin side and healthcare

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<v Speaker 1>and spas med spas especially. It's not that different people

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<v Speaker 1>aren't using insurance cushit cough for the most part. No, right,

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<v Speaker 1>but and it like it worked for you and it

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<v Speaker 1>has been working for you. But Okay, I'm gonna leave

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<v Speaker 1>it there. We're gonna take a quick break and then

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna come back because I want to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>what's next for you because you at the.

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<v Speaker 2>Level Okay, all right, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Va family are back and my cousin Anna Banana

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<v Speaker 1>I mean sorry, Anna, Victoria Woodruff and Victoria Puch a

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<v Speaker 1>whole name out there. So you've been in this job

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<v Speaker 1>for over a year now, and obviously it's a stepping stone,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you're kind of like front of house in the

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<v Speaker 1>in the MEDSPA space. We're interfacing with customers and all

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<v Speaker 1>of that. But like, so, what do you want for

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<v Speaker 1>yourself now that we have like the little we have

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<v Speaker 1>like this ember? You know this, like you can imagine

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<v Speaker 1>like building a fire. You've struck this ember now and

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<v Speaker 1>your job, like your career is starting to kindle, it's

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<v Speaker 1>starting to smoke. You know, we got a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a flame. Now it's about how can we keep

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<v Speaker 1>building that flame? And even though you have a job now,

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<v Speaker 1>you're happy there. It's great, it's great. I'm always talking

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<v Speaker 1>to women about never getting too comfortable and always sort

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<v Speaker 1>of keeping your eye on the next opportunity and what

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<v Speaker 1>that's going to look like for you. So talk to

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<v Speaker 1>me a little bit forget him with your cousin and

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<v Speaker 1>more of like a coach. What do you want next?

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<v Speaker 2>I think, no, I want to move up in the

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<v Speaker 2>SPA space. I realize I like to do the operations

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<v Speaker 2>side of it. You know, I'm great speaking to people,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know, I have more fun, but I find

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<v Speaker 2>more enjoyment and doing like the operation side. So it's

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<v Speaker 2>like the ordering getting things done. There's conflict with schedule,

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<v Speaker 2>there's conflict with the guests. Baby, I'm very good at that,

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<v Speaker 2>very strategic managing people. To me, I really do find

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<v Speaker 2>enjoying it with that. And I feel like the people

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<v Speaker 2>that I do work with, they feel confident or comfortable

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<v Speaker 2>enough with me to tell their issues and we can

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<v Speaker 2>address it, you know, as me to be.

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<v Speaker 1>So together. One of the things we did do that

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<v Speaker 1>My first thing was when you came you actually, that's

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<v Speaker 1>the reason you're here is because you came over what

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<v Speaker 1>was it last week, week before it was last week,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, let's just run your day off.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get together, let's sit down and talk about what's next.

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<v Speaker 1>And the first thing you wanted to do was your resume, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, to how to hold up before

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<v Speaker 1>we do the resume. It's really important to know what

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<v Speaker 1>you want so you can tailor your resume, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>do a job. And I feel like we spent that

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<v Speaker 1>excuse me that afternoon on LinkedIn stalking people in the

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<v Speaker 1>SPA industry and trying to figure out what are some

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<v Speaker 1>job titles that sound juicy, even if they are like

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<v Speaker 1>a few levels beyond what you could be doing now,

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<v Speaker 1>just like how I have like a finish line or

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<v Speaker 1>have a you know, something that you can work toward.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I learned a lot about the types of

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<v Speaker 1>jobs like director of operations, SPA manager, SPA director director.

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<v Speaker 2>I think those are like the main three that I found.

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<v Speaker 2>But there's like a lot of spot owners obviously.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you ever hear back? I think you sent some

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<v Speaker 1>DMS like cold to some people.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I did. I think if you are not message me,

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<v Speaker 2>but they followed me back or what do they call it?

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<v Speaker 1>Connected with?

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<v Speaker 2>You were connected? Connected? LinkedIn? Connected? That makes sense. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>getting to you. I had to.

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<v Speaker 1>I had to twist your arm to get a photo

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<v Speaker 1>on there.

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<v Speaker 2>I because I hate that photo.

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<v Speaker 1>It's such a gorgeous photo. Y'all, go connect with Anna

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<v Speaker 1>and Victoria Woodruff on LinkedIn if you're in the SPA industry,

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<v Speaker 1>met Spot and listening, Gone and there. She only has

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<v Speaker 1>twenty two connections, y'all. She's lonely.

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<v Speaker 2>Why you called me out like that?

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<v Speaker 1>Because you're so pretty in this picture. I can't stand it.

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<v Speaker 1>I took it. I told you I had two years

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<v Speaker 1>to take a better one. I took this headshot back

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty one. I said, you had two three

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<v Speaker 1>years to pick a better headshot, and you don't have one.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know what you're gonna do uploads with the

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<v Speaker 1>image upload and when you get a better one, you

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<v Speaker 1>can fix it. But done is better than perfect.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So why perfect?

0:23:20.440 --> 0:23:22.240
<v Speaker 1>And if people are listening on like pictures, but I

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<v Speaker 1>thought pictures were bad, especially if you're a woman of color,

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<v Speaker 1>people can, like, you know, have bias against you. But

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<v Speaker 1>I do believe in having a photo on LinkedIn as

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<v Speaker 1>a hiring manager. I just feel like it's a well rounded

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<v Speaker 1>image and let's just be let's keep it one hundred. Anna,

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to be in the Beauty and MEDSPA space show.

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<v Speaker 1>You're cute, like, I don't care how like in politically

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<v Speaker 1>unpolitically corrected is too or politically incorrected is to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about the impact of like your look and your presentation.

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<v Speaker 1>It really matters. And I think that people who were

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<v Speaker 1>reviewing LinkedIn profiles, I'm not saying put it in your resume.

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<v Speaker 1>Not all about that but at least for LinkedIn, like

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<v Speaker 1>show that you know you are well presented, that you

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<v Speaker 1>present yourself well because I do believe in your industry,

0:24:08.440 --> 0:24:11.880
<v Speaker 1>it's a bit of that image is probably going to matter.

0:24:12.200 --> 0:24:14.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean it was even one hundred Is that how

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<v Speaker 1>you feel it?

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<v Speaker 2>It's correct, you're correct.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't have to just say I'm correct.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I mean it's one hundred percent true. Like if

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<v Speaker 2>you're working or you are coming into a spa and

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<v Speaker 2>you want to look a certain way, when don't you

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<v Speaker 2>want this staff to look, you know, put together. They

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<v Speaker 2>look like they take care of themselves. That's just what

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<v Speaker 2>it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you be doing your crystals and your boobs and

0:24:38.000 --> 0:24:41.280
<v Speaker 1>where you be putting those crystals, the crevices and the

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<v Speaker 1>belly button. It used to live here just be packages

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<v Speaker 1>of rocks coming you.

0:24:45.440 --> 0:24:47.959
<v Speaker 2>Guys would just call it rocks. It's like they're crystals.

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<v Speaker 1>It's another envelope of rocks for you in listen, show

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<v Speaker 1>it in your braw.

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<v Speaker 2>It was part of my healing journey. Yeah, and I

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<v Speaker 2>still have them.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you charge charging in the moonlight.

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<v Speaker 2>They're charging.

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<v Speaker 1>Did water one time she drank moonwater. It's a full moon.

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<v Speaker 1>Put some water on the deck.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god. Yeah, and it was delicious. It was

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<v Speaker 2>very refreshing the next day.

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<v Speaker 1>So on your LinkedIn, okay, we got you a photo,

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<v Speaker 1>you have your experience on there. You started to connect

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<v Speaker 1>with people, which is great. You need to be connected.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is my advice for anyone listening to Even

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<v Speaker 1>if you and right now Anna, you only know the

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<v Speaker 1>people who work where you work, right but the industry

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<v Speaker 1>is so big, I'm like, how can you get connected

0:25:39.160 --> 0:25:41.639
<v Speaker 1>to more people in your space? So the work that

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<v Speaker 1>we did that day, it may feel like not that

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<v Speaker 1>big of a deal. But even if someone sees your

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<v Speaker 1>name on LinkedIn, even if they don't connect with you,

0:25:48.520 --> 0:25:50.359
<v Speaker 1>even if they well maybe they don't, but even if

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<v Speaker 1>they don't respond to your DM, but they do connect

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<v Speaker 1>to you or follow you whatever, you're going to show

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<v Speaker 1>up in their feed. And I've learned you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>show up in their feed a lot for two weeks

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<v Speaker 1>after they connect with you. So once you start adding

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<v Speaker 1>people like start, I would say sharing something on LinkedIn.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't have to be like here are my thoughts

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<v Speaker 1>on the med's boss base, but share an article about

0:26:12.680 --> 0:26:16.919
<v Speaker 1>the industry. Share an article that you find interesting or

0:26:17.480 --> 0:26:21.080
<v Speaker 1>follow like thought leaders in your space. There's got to

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<v Speaker 1>be like some I know there's so many like influencers,

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<v Speaker 1>but also there's probably some great names in the business

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<v Speaker 1>of the MEDSPA industry that you could be following so

0:26:31.160 --> 0:26:33.800
<v Speaker 1>that you can really like, I want you to be nerdy.

0:26:34.359 --> 0:26:37.040
<v Speaker 1>I want you to be like in on the med'spo space.

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<v Speaker 1>I want you to be passionate about it. That is

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<v Speaker 1>what's gonna give you that extra something special when you

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<v Speaker 1>go into an interview. If you show up and you're

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<v Speaker 1>just like, here's my experience, I'm very happy to me. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>everyone's got a great resume. This job market, Mmmm, it's tough,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's tough in the sense that it's for me,

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<v Speaker 1>it's normal, Like this is how a job market I

0:27:02.119 --> 0:27:03.879
<v Speaker 1>feel like should be. It was Craig Krai back in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty one. Everyone was hiring right, and you could

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<v Speaker 1>get a job like that. But now it's more like

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<v Speaker 1>corrected in the sense that there are good jobs out there,

0:27:14.040 --> 0:27:16.400
<v Speaker 1>but there's also a lot of good candidates and.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a competition is insane exactly. On LinkedIn, I think

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<v Speaker 2>for certain jobs I saw there was like three hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and thirty two app like applications for that one job,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was just like, it's just brutal. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 2>like the dating pool.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is where you start to differentiate yourself with strategy.

0:27:34.800 --> 0:27:37.760
<v Speaker 1>So one thing is when you see hundreds of people

0:27:37.800 --> 0:27:40.200
<v Speaker 1>have applied, you can add your resume to the mix.

0:27:40.240 --> 0:27:41.919
<v Speaker 1>But if you're not like a shoe in, like a

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<v Speaker 1>perfect resume, perfect candidate, like for the role when you

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<v Speaker 1>really want it, I feel like less is more when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to applying right now, like really center in

0:27:51.560 --> 0:27:55.359
<v Speaker 1>or home in on jobs that you want, jobs that

0:27:55.400 --> 0:27:59.320
<v Speaker 1>are cool, not just any old job, and that may

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<v Speaker 1>mean waiting longer to find the job. You're not so senior,

0:28:03.240 --> 0:28:05.400
<v Speaker 1>like you're you know your entry level right now and

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<v Speaker 1>the next step up for you were hoping to get

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<v Speaker 1>you on a path to like maybe assistant SPA manager

0:28:10.760 --> 0:28:13.240
<v Speaker 1>or at a startup SPA, maybe a maybe straight to

0:28:13.400 --> 0:28:16.119
<v Speaker 1>SPA manager or whatever, but somewhere on the back the

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<v Speaker 1>back of office, back office whatever, back back office, the

0:28:20.320 --> 0:28:25.600
<v Speaker 1>op side. But those types of roles are fewer and

0:28:25.640 --> 0:28:28.760
<v Speaker 1>further between, and because they're juicier, right, they probably pay more.

0:28:29.800 --> 0:28:32.359
<v Speaker 1>You want a salary and all that, Like they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to have more competition. So that's why I'm like last

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<v Speaker 1>week when you were here, I was asking, I was

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<v Speaker 1>impressed because you knew some names of other spas in

0:28:42.240 --> 0:28:46.160
<v Speaker 1>the industry and that. But I want more. I think

0:28:46.200 --> 0:28:49.160
<v Speaker 1>you should really like get more into the industry. What

0:28:49.200 --> 0:28:52.040
<v Speaker 1>could that look like? What are some ways you could

0:28:52.480 --> 0:28:55.840
<v Speaker 1>start investing more and learning about the men's bas space

0:28:55.920 --> 0:28:59.200
<v Speaker 1>and getting in networking opportunities so you can meet other

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<v Speaker 1>people in that space.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of SPA conventions. There's a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>in New York. Yeah, there's so big. There's plenty plenty

0:29:08.640 --> 0:29:12.080
<v Speaker 2>in the city. Are you going to go to I

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<v Speaker 2>forgot the name of it. It's like I think it's French.

0:29:15.120 --> 0:29:19.560
<v Speaker 2>But the biologic they have how do you say that?

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<v Speaker 2>It's French? So it's like Biologic. You're here, but I

0:29:27.480 --> 0:29:30.840
<v Speaker 2>call it br BR Hey, I took.

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<v Speaker 1>I did, that's the fancy brand. I'd gotten the free

0:29:40.640 --> 0:29:42.040
<v Speaker 1>samples when I come to your spa.

0:29:42.800 --> 0:29:45.440
<v Speaker 2>Yes, so that's a brand. They have a lot of

0:29:46.520 --> 0:29:51.719
<v Speaker 2>conventions or just trainings and then we so they have

0:29:51.800 --> 0:29:54.880
<v Speaker 2>trainings like that and then they come to the spa.

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<v Speaker 2>But like, there's a there's a lot in the city

0:29:57.040 --> 0:30:01.280
<v Speaker 2>there's so many The beauty field or space in New

0:30:01.360 --> 0:30:05.280
<v Speaker 2>York City alone is like it's huge. So just going

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<v Speaker 2>there and meeting people, I think that's the next step

0:30:08.160 --> 0:30:09.760
<v Speaker 2>that I want to take because I want to take

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<v Speaker 2>this seriously, like I found my niche and something that

0:30:12.800 --> 0:30:15.800
<v Speaker 2>I really enjoy love. I talk about it all the time,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, because I'm passionate about beauty.

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<v Speaker 1>All right. So but here's one thing that I do

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<v Speaker 1>on my coaching calls. I will sit here and watch

0:30:27.080 --> 0:30:30.520
<v Speaker 1>you until you do a thing that maybe is a

0:30:30.520 --> 0:30:32.360
<v Speaker 1>little thing that you know you haven't done yet, but

0:30:32.360 --> 0:30:35.320
<v Speaker 1>you just need someone to be an accountability partner. I

0:30:35.360 --> 0:30:37.680
<v Speaker 1>want you to. I want to search for like an

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<v Speaker 1>event that you could sign up for right now, and

0:30:40.720 --> 0:30:42.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna I know you're on your phone, you have

0:30:42.320 --> 0:30:46.520
<v Speaker 1>your laptop next to you. No, okay, So I just

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<v Speaker 1>literally googled MEDSPA events New York and there's a whole list.

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<v Speaker 1>March third, there's the International Esthetics, Cosmetics and SPA Conference

0:30:54.320 --> 0:30:56.880
<v Speaker 1>in New York and there's not the only one. There's

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<v Speaker 1>like an open house, there's a blueprint for success US

0:31:00.240 --> 0:31:03.120
<v Speaker 1>and Aesthetics. I think some of these will probably target

0:31:03.160 --> 0:31:06.000
<v Speaker 1>people who want to work as an esthetician, but you

0:31:06.040 --> 0:31:08.120
<v Speaker 1>want to focus on where are some opportunities to be

0:31:08.240 --> 0:31:11.000
<v Speaker 1>in a room with the ops people, people who are

0:31:11.040 --> 0:31:13.520
<v Speaker 1>like on the business side of SPA. I really feel

0:31:13.520 --> 0:31:16.840
<v Speaker 1>like that's going to help set you apart because I

0:31:16.880 --> 0:31:19.200
<v Speaker 1>think in like the you know, the cosmetics and men's

0:31:19.200 --> 0:31:21.320
<v Speaker 1>spas kind of space, I think people think first of

0:31:21.360 --> 0:31:25.600
<v Speaker 1>the worker bees who are doing the services and all that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's fine, but there's not much room for growth there

0:31:28.560 --> 0:31:31.560
<v Speaker 1>unless you're really spectacular at your job. You bring in

0:31:31.600 --> 0:31:34.720
<v Speaker 1>your own clientele, you know, you become valuable that way

0:31:35.280 --> 0:31:37.640
<v Speaker 1>in your you know, in your in your space. You

0:31:37.680 --> 0:31:39.800
<v Speaker 1>need to sort of get you have more of a

0:31:40.000 --> 0:31:42.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, career trajectory, you know, but you need people

0:31:42.680 --> 0:31:46.560
<v Speaker 1>who can I think mentor you show you the ropes,

0:31:46.760 --> 0:31:49.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, challenge you get you into a job where

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<v Speaker 1>it feels like a big shoes for you to fill,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's how you start to learn and grow.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to save that event.

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<v Speaker 1>No, we're not going to save it. You're in a

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<v Speaker 1>register and you're going to ask your job to pay

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<v Speaker 1>for it. Did you know that?

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<v Speaker 2>No? I did not.

0:32:06.800 --> 0:32:09.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm a little bossy, but yeah, so this is a

0:32:09.080 --> 0:32:12.000
<v Speaker 1>type of event that I feel like your job should

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<v Speaker 1>pay for. Your job is a big brand, they got money.

0:32:15.080 --> 0:32:16.480
<v Speaker 1>I think you should make your case like, hey, I

0:32:17.120 --> 0:32:19.600
<v Speaker 1>really want to, like, you know, get some new ideas

0:32:19.600 --> 0:32:21.560
<v Speaker 1>for the SPA. I want to get some ideas for

0:32:22.240 --> 0:32:25.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, and just show you can show them the website.

0:32:25.040 --> 0:32:27.200
<v Speaker 1>You can make a little you know, write an email

0:32:27.240 --> 0:32:29.080
<v Speaker 1>and just make a case for why they should cover

0:32:30.680 --> 0:32:32.640
<v Speaker 1>your attendance and.

0:32:34.200 --> 0:32:34.640
<v Speaker 2>Pitch it.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to see how much it is first recruiting

0:32:37.520 --> 0:32:40.400
<v Speaker 1>one oh one, how to attract, engage, and retain a

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<v Speaker 1>great team. Ooh, I love this workshop. Not because you're

0:32:44.760 --> 0:32:46.400
<v Speaker 1>gonna don't think of I don't think you should think

0:32:46.440 --> 0:32:49.040
<v Speaker 1>of doing workshops, just based on what you want out

0:32:49.040 --> 0:32:51.520
<v Speaker 1>of your career. Do at least on who's going to be.

0:32:51.480 --> 0:32:54.360
<v Speaker 2>In the room. If you go to a recruiting workshop,

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<v Speaker 2>who's going to be there.

0:32:56.680 --> 0:33:02.760
<v Speaker 1>Recruiters, managers need to people people who are pops possibly

0:33:02.840 --> 0:33:06.200
<v Speaker 1>hiring right now. Yes, you need to be in that room.

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<v Speaker 1>Baby girl, I feel like I'm like the Toddler and

0:33:10.560 --> 0:33:17.240
<v Speaker 1>Tierra stage mom right now. Smile, sweetie, like doing the

0:33:17.320 --> 0:33:23.400
<v Speaker 1>choreo in the in the in the wings. Okay, are

0:33:23.400 --> 0:33:32.479
<v Speaker 1>you on the exhibition page. Yet the exhibition page like

0:33:32.520 --> 0:33:34.600
<v Speaker 1>the workshops page where you can pick.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I'm still registering. There's so many mercy listen woman,

0:33:41.320 --> 0:33:45.200
<v Speaker 2>listen lot here. What do you mean?

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<v Speaker 1>My sessions are usually forty five minutes and this is

0:33:48.880 --> 0:33:52.040
<v Speaker 1>way over an hour already. So you need to fire

0:33:52.040 --> 0:33:53.760
<v Speaker 1>in the belly. You're gonna be an admin. You need

0:33:53.800 --> 0:33:55.959
<v Speaker 1>to be like type in ninety nine words per minute?

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<v Speaker 1>What are you like reading the questions? I don't do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't just think about you think about like who could

0:34:04.240 --> 0:34:07.000
<v Speaker 1>be in the room like that? Even the eleven forty

0:34:07.080 --> 0:34:12.840
<v Speaker 1>five panel discover the path to empowered Leadership business management.

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<v Speaker 1>That could be great for meeting people who are in

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<v Speaker 1>leadership positions and also, like you know, start putting yourself

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<v Speaker 1>in the space where you want to become a leader.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. Maximizing performance with your current SPA software. Ooh, the

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<v Speaker 2>software needs help.

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<v Speaker 1>Ooh, the software one's going to be good, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>because there's going to be full of SPA edmins. Anna,

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta go, oh, this is exciting.

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<v Speaker 2>Which one were you saying?

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<v Speaker 1>That's the one that you mentioned three fifteen to four thirty.

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<v Speaker 1>Maximizing performance with your SPA software. M Yeah, that's perfect

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<v Speaker 1>because you need to be nerdy about shit that people

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to be nerdy about. That's what's going to

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<v Speaker 1>separate you. I'm really excited. This is the kind of

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<v Speaker 1>way that I love to end a coaching session, even

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<v Speaker 1>if it is a little painful for me to sit

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<v Speaker 1>here breathing while you breathe and type things into the

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<v Speaker 1>internet and sign up for a thing. Because I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it sounds simple. But were you planning to sign up

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<v Speaker 1>for this conference today?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 1>Very, Like it's like you've taken a big step and

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<v Speaker 1>these are like I'm so I think we got so

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<v Speaker 1>lucky with the timing because this is in a few months.

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<v Speaker 1>This is exactly what you need. Like it's almost even

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<v Speaker 1>more important than I mean, you're going to finish that

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<v Speaker 1>healthcare degree, healthcare admin degree, this is the year.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just it's just costly, that's all I'll say.

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<v Speaker 1>But you're paying your own way one, yes, and you're doing.

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<v Speaker 1>Proud of you mm hm. But this is the kind

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<v Speaker 1>of education that it's going to specialize you. Like you're

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<v Speaker 1>in like a generic healthcare admin program, right, Yeah, this

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<v Speaker 1>is like the continuing education where you're going to find

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<v Speaker 1>your niche.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think if I'm a niche and like, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we use it well, take advantage of it. And I

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<v Speaker 2>was like thinking, I'm gonna definitely put this one on LinkedIn.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I'm so excited for you? Are you excited? Why

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<v Speaker 1>am I the only one? Like? Bless?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just I'm just a tabit hungry. This will say,

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<v Speaker 2>go so am I I sent?

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<v Speaker 1>I sent you home with chili in a box of

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<v Speaker 1>corn bread, so I didn't even have time to eat it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yet I'm glad because you probably would have been belching

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<v Speaker 1>on the show. I would have the whole time that

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<v Speaker 1>chili got a kick. Okay, but when you come over,

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<v Speaker 1>do I not feed you? You feed me?

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<v Speaker 2>And somehow like I always have something packed on my

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<v Speaker 2>way out.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much for coming on. Brown Ambition was.

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<v Speaker 2>A pleasure, babes.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm excited. I wasn't sure what we were going to accomplish,

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<v Speaker 1>but I do feel like we took the first step

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<v Speaker 1>last week in terms of like getting you more comfortable

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<v Speaker 1>with LinkedIn and connecting with folks. And now I'm like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you're doing the thing that is so you're doing the

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<v Speaker 1>thing that so many especially women know that they probably

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<v Speaker 1>should be doing but aren't doing it, and that is

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<v Speaker 1>why they're staying stuck. And it's actually shoving yourself in

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<v Speaker 1>the rooms like buying your way and getting an invite whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>In the rooms where opportunity can happen. You need to create.

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<v Speaker 1>There's so much of the job search in your career.

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<v Speaker 1>It's as much a strategy as it is putting yourself

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<v Speaker 1>in a position where exciting opportunities can happen to you.

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<v Speaker 1>Does that make sense? Like it's hard to describe, but

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<v Speaker 1>there's an element of I don't know what the exact

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<v Speaker 1>thing is going to be, but if I put myself

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<v Speaker 1>in this room, things can happen.

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<v Speaker 2>Things you have to make it happen.

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<v Speaker 1>To make it happier, exactly, you got to put yourself

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<v Speaker 1>in that space, and its sure ain't going to happen

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<v Speaker 1>if you just stay at the front desk at the

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<v Speaker 1>spa you're at now and never branch out and dip

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<v Speaker 1>a toe into the wider industry.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So I'm very proud. I'm so proud of you,

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<v Speaker 1>so proud of you.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

0:37:49.080 --> 0:37:51.120
<v Speaker 1>A year since moving out, you're about to be a

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<v Speaker 1>year in your new apartment. You got your own bills paid,

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<v Speaker 1>you got savings. How that credit score looking?

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<v Speaker 2>It's good.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, anyway, I'm super happy for you on your journey.

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<v Speaker 1>You're doing just so amazing. Do you feel proud of yourself? Like,

0:38:09.800 --> 0:38:11.960
<v Speaker 1>do you feel it like I have done a lot?

0:38:12.320 --> 0:38:15.320
<v Speaker 2>Or do you judge helf harshly? I judge myself harshly,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I see the difference of how I was like

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<v Speaker 2>two years ago. But like at this point, I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>we gotta keep going. I wanna. I really want to

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<v Speaker 2>tee myself on the back and be like you did it.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm just in a transition, but I am very

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<v Speaker 2>happy of how far I come along.

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<v Speaker 1>Just walking through your story with you, it just reminded

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<v Speaker 1>me you've come so far, hun Like, you've come so far,

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, And I just need to get you to that. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to get you to the next the next

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<v Speaker 1>once you get this, I feel like the next role

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be so pivotable, pivotable, pivotal once you

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<v Speaker 1>get into the right title and like more of a

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<v Speaker 1>high higher level, more the admin side. It's just it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's an easy path, not an easy path, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>a it's a path that you want to be on,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's no where, there's no way you're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to continue to have that great career if you just

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<v Speaker 1>like get on this next sort of you're.

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<v Speaker 2>Not going to get on the train.

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<v Speaker 1>You're Oh, you're so great though, and I'm so proud

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<v Speaker 1>of you and I love you so much.

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<v Speaker 2>I love you too,