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Speaker 1: Cowboys dot Com with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar
Speaker 1: Garcia and Derek Eagleton. It is Tuesday, November sixteenth, twenty
Speaker 1: twenty one, Season seventeen, episode number sixty two. Welcome to
Speaker 1: the latest edition of the break Lock Nest of NBC
Speaker 1: Mortgage Studios at the Star. And I can see by
Speaker 1: the looking guys, I'm about to throw a wrench at day.
Speaker 1: I mean it, Nick, give me a sixty two. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I wasn't ready for it, and this is not a
Speaker 1: good one. The only guy I can think of is
Speaker 1: Brian Baldinger. Brian Baldinger played for the Cowboys. Yeah anywhere
Speaker 1: sixty two, the one that does the tape break. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I had no idea he played for the Cowboys. Yeah, oh,
Speaker 1: no questioning, No, he did in the eighties. He was
Speaker 1: like their lineman sixty two. I'm probably like played, I
Speaker 1: don't know, eighty three, eighty four, eighty five. I just
Speaker 1: I know him from the stuff he does for NFL Network,
Speaker 1: But I didn't know that he would play for the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: Yeah he did. He didn't. I can't think he's any good. No,
Speaker 1: I mean not really. I don't think he played for
Speaker 1: that long. You're right in the middle. Five years six yeah,
Speaker 1: five years with the Cowboys with the Cowboys, Yeah, eighty
Speaker 1: this is it's not a lot of sixty. This is
Speaker 1: a this is a Marco Rivera. Yeah, good job. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Parcels was all over that signing and that didn't work out.
Speaker 1: He hurt his back and hurt his back in his
Speaker 1: first week here. It was. Yeah, it was one of
Speaker 1: the bad ones. John Fitzgerald, Yeah he was a good player. Seventies. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I just picture like older fans just like, come on,
Speaker 1: you don't know the answer. Yeah, but like currently, oh
Speaker 1: to sixty two is the guy. I'm just like, okay,
Speaker 1: he'll be cut like sixty sixty. There he's wearing sixty.
Speaker 1: All I could think it was Braylon Jones this year.
Speaker 1: I think the Houston, Houston Guard Center. I think he's
Speaker 1: still he's still here. I think he just thinks two's
Speaker 1: on the practice squad. The water Boy, a movie you
Speaker 1: probably never seen. Okay, yeah, he wore sixty two. No, no,
Speaker 1: but he gets poked in the eye or something, or
Speaker 1: somebody said one the other team, and he was just
Speaker 1: like sixty two and he just goes and just like
Speaker 1: annihilates him. It's good. It's a good, good movie. No,
Speaker 1: not a good better than Hoosiers and Adam Sandler movie.
Speaker 1: What you told me Hoosiers is one. I should watch
Speaker 1: Hoosiers and water Boy. No, they're not the same. It's
Speaker 1: a different type of thing. It's like, no one in
Speaker 1: no one's gone out and bought the water Boys soundtrack.
Speaker 1: You know who's your sound I'm sure people. Nick and
Speaker 1: all of his closest friends can quote Hoosiers from beginning
Speaker 1: to end. And he spends all of his time with
Speaker 1: the only two guys who have never seen it. It's okay,
Speaker 1: it's okay. It's an older it's an older movie. It's
Speaker 1: a it's a good movie. You know, it's funny, it's
Speaker 1: a great movie. You know, we always are like two
Speaker 1: America's why why is it quite often Dave ends up
Speaker 1: in my America then in your America? Like it's kind
Speaker 1: of interesting. I saw this on Twitter last night. I
Speaker 1: was like, there was one of those moments. I was like,
Speaker 1: Dave's in my America for some reason. Like, I mean, look,
Speaker 1: I am, I can be very painfully white. Okay, I
Speaker 1: just want to make that clear, but really funny. I
Speaker 1: grew up in New Orleans, Louisiana, so I got a
Speaker 1: little bit of both. You know, I don't know, I
Speaker 1: don't know what to say. You okay, are you okay?
Speaker 1: You got him with this thing, like, yeah, I wasn't
Speaker 1: ready for that one. I've said this a lot, and
Speaker 1: I have another friend that's that's this way, But Dave
Speaker 1: is one of the few people that I know him.
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like I know a lot about
Speaker 1: some things like Cowboy jerseys or Super Bowls, final four
Speaker 1: is whatever. Dave is one of those people that knows
Speaker 1: a lot about a lot, and that is very very impressive.
Speaker 1: I'm very well rounded. Yeah, I mean, if you could
Speaker 1: probably hang in there and talk politics with you today
Speaker 1: and stuff that's going on and all that, yeah, I've
Speaker 1: had some those, right, you know. And then but then
Speaker 1: he knows you know a lot of sports stuff too,
Speaker 1: rapp movies stuff, all that kind of stuff. The key
Speaker 1: to it literally, anytime I'm curious about something, I just
Speaker 1: go down to Wikipedia wormhole. I did it last night.
Speaker 1: I found it doing the crossword puzzle and you were cheating. Well,
Speaker 1: I also I do a lot of crosswords too, But no,
Speaker 1: like I'll just I'll hear something be like I don't
Speaker 1: know anything about that, like some I saw a video
Speaker 1: the other day about some random like castle in Scotland
Speaker 1: and I was like, I've never heard of that. Where
Speaker 1: is that? Google it. Forty minutes later, I'm into like
Speaker 1: five different articles. Don't even remember why I googled it.
Speaker 1: I'd probably do that twice a day, you know, And
Speaker 1: that's why. Yeah, well I shouldn't tell my boss that,
Speaker 1: but I don't as long as I'm doing it at work.
Speaker 1: Depends on the day. Maybe in the off season. You know.
Speaker 1: I almost was about to say something like that's a
Speaker 1: good thing. There's not. We're not playing like this. You know,
Speaker 1: great team, great game coming up. But you know what
Speaker 1: we get. We get a lot of people on Twitter
Speaker 1: that say to us, they appreciate this, Yeah, they liked
Speaker 1: this stuff. They like talking about college football. You know
Speaker 1: what it is? Those are the people that have that
Speaker 1: essentially live with us and what I mean by that
Speaker 1: is they are with us every day throughout the season,
Speaker 1: in the off season. They've been doing this for years,
Speaker 1: so to them, it's just like sitting around with friends
Speaker 1: having conversation and just listening to the conversation. So it
Speaker 1: works for them. It's the people that came in for
Speaker 1: the first time and like, let me check out this
Speaker 1: thing called the Cowboys break and then they hear us
Speaker 1: talking a minute six and we haven't said anything about
Speaker 1: for you guys, we apologize, you'll get you. The one
Speaker 1: thing we've said about the Cowboys so far is that
Speaker 1: we can't think of anybody who wore sixty two. By
Speaker 1: the way, Tony Tilbert or to Tilbert or for minute,
Speaker 1: we're coming in with some names. No, he wore it
Speaker 1: in that Darren Woodson were forty five, Jason Witten were
Speaker 1: forty nine. Type thing like Okay, we don't know if
Speaker 1: you're gonna be a good player. We're gonna you're not
Speaker 1: gonna get a nineties yet. And then you start, you
Speaker 1: start bawling out, and and real quick I gotta figure
Speaker 1: out I didn't even know what movie I haven't seen that.
Speaker 1: Everybody was like, oh my god, you gotta we gotta
Speaker 1: figure that out. Well, you haven't seen anything that came
Speaker 1: out before like nineteen seventy five, So I've never actually
Speaker 1: seen anything. I've never seen a movie in my life
Speaker 1: that it's older than me, right ever, really, I mean,
Speaker 1: that's that's incredible to me. Like never, I haven't seen
Speaker 1: any movie the easy one. I mean, you never seen
Speaker 1: a codfather never sends a horse gets cut off in
Speaker 1: the horse's head in the bed or something like that.
Speaker 1: That's all. That's all I know. Cassablanca, like the most
Speaker 1: famous movie ever. I don't give a damn. Yeah, I know, Hey,
Speaker 1: you know what this stuff used to buy it? I'm
Speaker 1: gonna mark that was that? Is that the right movie
Speaker 1: that's gone with the winner? Yeah, this is all the
Speaker 1: same thing for him. But it's all the same thing
Speaker 1: that stuff used to bother me. And now I'm just like,
Speaker 1: move your life, man, life's too short from you. Everybody's
Speaker 1: got their own thing. I don't care if you've seen it,
Speaker 1: if you don't care, and we can just move on
Speaker 1: with our lives. Yeah, all right, let's talk some Cowboys football. No,
Speaker 1: here's what we're gonna do. Actually, in the second segment
Speaker 1: here today we're gonna be joined by a former co
Speaker 1: host of The Break from a long time ago when
Speaker 1: we were still young man Nick, I think, yeah, we
Speaker 1: were really young, younger, much much younger. But Deal Wall
Speaker 1: is gonna be joined us. He now is a news
Speaker 1: anchor out in Kansas City, so we'll have her join
Speaker 1: We'll talk a little bit like Billboard worthy. Yeah like no,
Speaker 1: like like literally like come and join us today. We're
Speaker 1: talking about whatever like she does the news, like the
Speaker 1: hard news. So yeah, we'll have her join us here
Speaker 1: in the second segment, and we're going to uh, I
Speaker 1: can't take a stroll down memory lane. She'll te U
Speaker 1: a little bit about what's happening now in Kansas City
Speaker 1: as well as we prepare for our trip out there
Speaker 1: this weekend. But before we get to that, though I
Speaker 1: did want to, I had a topic I wanted to
Speaker 1: hit it. I think we're gonna have to take a
Speaker 1: little bit more time on so I'm gonna go to
Speaker 1: my secondary topic right now because I only got a
Speaker 1: few minutes before we go to our first break. I
Speaker 1: was interested yesterday that Jordan Lewis was a topic of
Speaker 1: discussion with a lot of the coaches who talked to
Speaker 1: McCarthy talked about him, Dan quinn talked about it, and
Speaker 1: they said things like he's competitive and aggressive. They said
Speaker 1: he's excellent quickness and tackling and that's important for a
Speaker 1: slot guy. Said he was down for any challenge, way
Speaker 1: past scrappy was the part I really loved that. They said.
Speaker 1: My question for you guys is this year we've seen
Speaker 1: you know when you think about it, Antonio, I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Anthony Brown has been really good at the
Speaker 1: opposite corner from Treyvon Diggs. You got Jordan Lewis was
Speaker 1: playing a really nice had a really nice game this week.
Speaker 1: It's played pretty good this season. In a year like this,
Speaker 1: where the Cowboys went all in last year in the
Speaker 1: draft with cornerbacks, how much do you think it's setting
Speaker 1: back those guys and their ability to be able to
Speaker 1: get on the field and start trying to figure this
Speaker 1: thing out. Because these guys are playing so well and
Speaker 1: the likelihood is that at least one of them, maybe
Speaker 1: both of them won't be back next year. That's a
Speaker 1: long question, a question, and I know that's one of
Speaker 1: your pet beeves, So I mean, my first thought, honestly
Speaker 1: was like I don't care like like because the fact
Speaker 1: that these guys are playing playing well. I mean, so
Speaker 1: I don't think it matters if Kelvin Joseph's getting set
Speaker 1: back or Nashan Ryde or whatever, just because you know,
Speaker 1: these other guys are playing well and and and that's
Speaker 1: they're they're they're making plays. I think it's a lot
Speaker 1: of it has to do with the scheme. I think
Speaker 1: the past rush has been good. It's helping these guys
Speaker 1: that they're they're seeing the ball, everything's staying in front
Speaker 1: of them, they're making plays on the ball. I think
Speaker 1: Joseph would probably you know, he's not too far from
Speaker 1: getting out there and playing. I don't think it. He
Speaker 1: is getting some playing, he's getting he's getting some you know,
Speaker 1: second round, third round picks. You want them to contribute,
Speaker 1: you don't. You don't have to be on the field
Speaker 1: right now. If it was your first round pick. You know,
Speaker 1: if they would have drafted Horn, you know, or certain
Speaker 1: and they weren't as good as Anthony Brown or Jordan Lewis,
Speaker 1: then that would be weird kind of and you know,
Speaker 1: but I don't think it's that big of a problem
Speaker 1: right now. I'd love the question because it makes me
Speaker 1: feel smart because you can go finding the tape as
Speaker 1: soon as as soon as Horn and Certan went off
Speaker 1: the board. This is what you were signing up for.
Speaker 1: This is the likelihood. We said it all summer. I
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be hard for these guys to beat
Speaker 1: out three veterans who've done this for a long time,
Speaker 1: who the team has already invested in. And injury played
Speaker 1: a role in that. Kelvin was unavailable for a while.
Speaker 1: But lo and behold, that's exactly what happened. And yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to go as far as to say
Speaker 1: I don't care, but the train keeps rolling, like once
Speaker 1: the season starts develop especially if I mean, if you're
Speaker 1: bad and you know you're building for the future, that matters.
Speaker 1: But trying to accomplish something here, I don't have time
Speaker 1: to worry, especially especially if it's outside of a first
Speaker 1: round pick. I mean, Tristan Hill didn't do anything his
Speaker 1: first year. Cheeto, Cheeto, Well, he got hurt. He got hurt.
Speaker 1: Cheeto and Jordan had limited roles as rookies. Injury was
Speaker 1: part of that too, but they it took them time
Speaker 1: to get on the field on a consistent basis. Um shoot. Obviously,
Speaker 1: Jalen and Randy are unique circumstances, but again, you're never guaranteed.
Speaker 1: The further back you go in the draft, your first
Speaker 1: round pick needs to be doing something. Everything else is
Speaker 1: dependent on the circumstances. And for that matter, I don't
Speaker 1: even know Jordan and maybe don't have to go anywhere
Speaker 1: next year. They're on affordable contracts. Abe he's got one
Speaker 1: more year left on his deal. Jordan will have two.
Speaker 1: So I have no problem with it whatsoever. And sorry, Nick,
Speaker 1: I want to ask why, why? Why do you think? Yeah,
Speaker 1: why does this? Bob? Here's the thing. What I'm what
Speaker 1: I'm concerned about it. I don't know that honestly, there
Speaker 1: is no real answer. You're right, once you get into
Speaker 1: the season, you play the best player, you don't worry
Speaker 1: about all that. But I do wonder if it affects
Speaker 1: their decision making once you get to the offseason, because
Speaker 1: in the A so they got to make a decision
Speaker 1: on those two guys, on on Jordan and on and
Speaker 1: on Brown, and they got to make a decision. And
Speaker 1: it's one of those things where it's like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: are these guys ready to step into that role? If
Speaker 1: we decide not to sign them, or why do you
Speaker 1: have to make a decision to make a decision? You
Speaker 1: don't I thought one, neither one of them is out
Speaker 1: of contract. No, they both have signed three They signed
Speaker 1: the same deal. Yeah, Ab signed it in twenty twenty
Speaker 1: and Jordan signed it in twenty twenty one. So how
Speaker 1: long they have left on their due? Ab will have
Speaker 1: one more year when this season is over and Jordan
Speaker 1: will have to Okay, So which now is there something
Speaker 1: to be said for you could try to cut costs
Speaker 1: and get rid of those contracts to help you sign
Speaker 1: the Randy's and the Schultzs and the Gallops. And maybe
Speaker 1: that's the way I'm thinking about it, is like you
Speaker 1: got a lot of decisions to make and you can't
Speaker 1: keep everybody. So is that they become capsually? But the
Speaker 1: questions you can't make that decision if the other guys
Speaker 1: aren't playing enough for you to know what you have
Speaker 1: with them, right, Yeah, I just I can't bring myself
Speaker 1: to care about this because and again, their their average
Speaker 1: salary comes out to like four and a half five
Speaker 1: million a year, which would be great if you could
Speaker 1: get cheaper, but it's also not a big enough number
Speaker 1: to keep you from accomplishing other things. So it's just
Speaker 1: not something I'm losing a lot of sleep about. I've
Speaker 1: said this before too, and not trying to write off
Speaker 1: Kelvin or Nishan, right, I'm actually I'm pleased with what
Speaker 1: they've both been able to do given the circumstances. Right,
Speaker 1: we knew he was super raw. He has a role
Speaker 1: which he hasn't been inactive this season, which is a
Speaker 1: win in my opinion. Kelvin, he's doing more and more.
Speaker 1: He's gotten to play defense in late game stages two
Speaker 1: weeks in a row. He's been pretty impressive on special teams,
Speaker 1: honestly for a guy that didn't do it in college.
Speaker 1: So I feel good about them. But again, you just
Speaker 1: talk about draft capital, and the reason this came up
Speaker 1: is because LSU has a cornerback coming out named Derek Stingley.
Speaker 1: I was like, if for some reason he falls to
Speaker 1: where the Cowboys pick, I would draft him. I don't care.
Speaker 1: You worry about that stuff later when you have a
Speaker 1: high for Trump. It's a curious circumstance. He hasn't. He
Speaker 1: hasn't played a complete season since twenty nineteen. Injuries and
Speaker 1: his tape wasn't all that good in twenty twenty. Nobody
Speaker 1: on LSU pas say twenty twenty for everybody was pretty well.
Speaker 1: But so these are just the types of things you
Speaker 1: think about where it's like, man, if if a guy
Speaker 1: like Derek Stingley's for some reason still hanging around, you
Speaker 1: pull the trigger on that. You pray that he's around.
Speaker 1: And so I my point is guard between between Kelvin
Speaker 1: and Right and the two veterans. They're not married to
Speaker 1: any of those guys really in my opinion. I mean,
Speaker 1: you don't want to give up on a top fifty
Speaker 1: pick after one year, and they're not going to. But
Speaker 1: I just this just isn't a situation that stresses me.
Speaker 1: I think there's so much that's gonna have to happen
Speaker 1: this offseason with management of this ros roster, because you
Speaker 1: got guys that you weren't even necessarily expecting to be
Speaker 1: as good as they've been, Like jay Ron, curse that
Speaker 1: that now. I saw Brian just tweeting a little earlier.
Speaker 1: He was saying like he made this comment, he just
Speaker 1: kind of said it off the cuff, like I don't
Speaker 1: know if the Cowboys can even afford him. I wasn't
Speaker 1: thinking like that, but I am now thinking, like, I
Speaker 1: wonder what it will cost, Like I wonder if there
Speaker 1: are teams out there. I wonder I wonder if they're
Speaker 1: teams out there that are willing to say, like, man,
Speaker 1: we'll give him a pretty decent deal. And if you're
Speaker 1: they're willing to do that, like by the Cowboys, willing
Speaker 1: to match that with everything all the other deals that
Speaker 1: they're having to pay. Just remember about curse and and
Speaker 1: there's a lot of people out there, a lot of
Speaker 1: a lot of coaches that are stubborn and arrogant that
Speaker 1: look and they think that their system is the way
Speaker 1: it is and this guy fits it and this guy doesn't,
Speaker 1: which I think is crap. And we've seen over the
Speaker 1: years that this stuff is crap. Tyron Tyron Matthew, I
Speaker 1: think is a perfect example of that. Just just go
Speaker 1: just go get a player, you know, go get a
Speaker 1: football player, and you figure it out, don't your Your
Speaker 1: system isn't that great. You know, I can see Belichick
Speaker 1: maybe can get away everything because the system has been
Speaker 1: proven to work. But you know, the Rod Marinelli's of
Speaker 1: the world, and that that stuff still gets me. But
Speaker 1: there's a lot of coaches that probably wouldn't think Jerron
Speaker 1: Curse fits what they're trying to do because he's a
Speaker 1: unique player and you got to play him in a
Speaker 1: in a you know, different spot and it's working. Dan
Speaker 1: Quinn saw him and said, oh yeah, yeah, I got
Speaker 1: a spot for him and it's working. I'm saying every
Speaker 1: other team would figure it out just the same. He's
Speaker 1: not just the safety. You don't just put back there
Speaker 1: as a safety. He's a safety linebacker. You got to
Speaker 1: have a good role for him. So I'm not saying
Speaker 1: everybody would just be jumping at him. Well. I will
Speaker 1: say this though, and dan Quinn, I think was the
Speaker 1: one that was talking about yesterday, was either him or
Speaker 1: McCarthy talking about how now you're seeing a lot of
Speaker 1: defenses at a one to play that big nickel. He
Speaker 1: feels that role really nicely and and there may not
Speaker 1: be a lot of guys out there in free agency
Speaker 1: who fill that role, and if more teams are one
Speaker 1: could do it. That makes him a very, very valuable commodity.
Speaker 1: We used to get a rundown and if I had
Speaker 1: gotten one today, I would have been able to do
Speaker 1: a lot of research on the salary cap. I didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't know we were getting into twenty twenty two.
Speaker 1: Today we're not. But it was just something my thought. No.
Speaker 1: But I just the reason I say that is something
Speaker 1: I think we all need to keep in mind is
Speaker 1: things feel very normal right now, and they are and
Speaker 1: wonderfully so. And I love how it feels so good
Speaker 1: to be able to go out to restaurants and we
Speaker 1: go to these sporting events and COVID's still a thing,
Speaker 1: but we're not as worried about it as we used
Speaker 1: to be. But the league is still dealing with a
Speaker 1: cap crunch, like everybody is tied up under it. They're
Speaker 1: not going to make it all back this year. The
Speaker 1: TV money doesn't start to kick in for a few years.
Speaker 1: The reason I bring all this three the reason another
Speaker 1: year to do with it. So I don't like there's
Speaker 1: not going to be as much money to go around,
Speaker 1: and I think teams loss all team everybody, and I
Speaker 1: think everybody's going to still kind of have their belt tightened.
Speaker 1: And I'm not trying to say that the Cowboys can
Speaker 1: hang on to all their players, but I do think
Speaker 1: that's going to affect the market where you're maybe not
Speaker 1: going to see as ridiculous an amount of just cash
Speaker 1: splashing on the first two eight days of free agency.
Speaker 1: So I'm interested to see how all that plays out.
Speaker 1: And I've got to think it gives the Cowboys a
Speaker 1: favorable chance of being able to do what they want
Speaker 1: to do. And I also think, and this is just
Speaker 1: a theory of mine, I actually think their ability to
Speaker 1: keep Dan Quinn here another year will help them with
Speaker 1: that because I think sure for some of these players,
Speaker 1: they may look at it like, man, I was able
Speaker 1: to do things with this defense coordinator I haven't done
Speaker 1: in my whole career jay Ron Curse, and so being
Speaker 1: able to resign him to stay with that defensive coordinator
Speaker 1: may be valuable. Like they may be willing to say, hey,
Speaker 1: you know, I think I want to stay here, and
Speaker 1: even though I might getting offered, that's a little bit
Speaker 1: more over here as far as money is concerned. I
Speaker 1: think I will play better and I like the role
Speaker 1: I have here in Dallas better. I've been thinking about
Speaker 1: this too, and I actually, again going back to me
Speaker 1: being well rounded, this is the dumb stuff I do
Speaker 1: in my day to day life. I'm on the elliptical
Speaker 1: this morning listening to my NFL podcast sort of getting
Speaker 1: ready for the day, and then I'm just start quizzing
Speaker 1: myself on like what jobs might come open this year.
Speaker 1: I came up with like six to eight. It doesn't
Speaker 1: really matter what they are. But you think about Kellen
Speaker 1: Moore and dan Quinn. One of them is this super nova,
Speaker 1: hot name, rising star. He's gonna have his pick, like
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore doesn't have to settle for a job just
Speaker 1: because it's an opening, you know what I mean. And
Speaker 1: then dan Quinn is on the other side, He's like, well,
Speaker 1: I've already done this. I know what it's like to
Speaker 1: be a head coach. I know how unfun the wrong
Speaker 1: situation can be. And so maybe he's not as exciting
Speaker 1: as Kellen Moore because he's technically a retread that sounds mean.
Speaker 1: But he also, I think, has a chance to be
Speaker 1: very selective. So again people get worried about Kellen Moore
Speaker 1: and Dan Quinn and it's like, these are two guys
Speaker 1: that might be a little more discerning than your average coordinators,
Speaker 1: and so I wonder if that gives the Cowboys a
Speaker 1: better chance to hold onto both of them as well.
Speaker 1: I don't know the answers to these questions, but these
Speaker 1: are just the things I think about that just begs
Speaker 1: the question. And we got a few seconds before we go,
Speaker 1: But I want to ask real quick, if right now,
Speaker 1: if you had to guess, which one do you think
Speaker 1: is in high would be in higher demand? Kellen Moore
Speaker 1: it will be in I think he will be in
Speaker 1: higher demand because it's all about offense. It's all about
Speaker 1: your relationship with the quarterback calling the plays. That is
Speaker 1: the everybody wants. Sean mcvayh and Kyle Shanahan, that's what
Speaker 1: every team wants. The Cowboys have it right now, and
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore has never failed before, so I think that
Speaker 1: makes him the one that will be in higher demand.
Speaker 1: But I also think there's something to be said for
Speaker 1: the guy who's done it before, who's learned a few
Speaker 1: lessons from his last stop, all that stuff. So I
Speaker 1: think there's some coaches. I think there's some teams that
Speaker 1: might look at it the other way and think dan
Speaker 1: Quinn could be a better fit for them because he
Speaker 1: goes like they've said, he's done it before. And also,
Speaker 1: you know, when you look at what the Cowboys have,
Speaker 1: there are some people that think, well, get a coordinator
Speaker 1: or a young coordinator. If you got a dock, you
Speaker 1: got Zeke, you got the line, you got the receivers, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can make that work. And he's making it work.
Speaker 1: But dan Quinn came in here and just totally kind
Speaker 1: of flipped one of the worst defenses we've ever seen, so,
Speaker 1: you know, and he's got the experience as well. He's
Speaker 1: been in his Super Bowl before. Probably should have won
Speaker 1: that game. They didn't, but I don't think it was
Speaker 1: really because of him, whatever it is. I mean, he's
Speaker 1: been there, so I you know, Cowboys are going to
Speaker 1: be lucky to get one of the two of them back.
Speaker 1: I mean the fact that dan Quinn I think that's
Speaker 1: the point right there. He has done more with less
Speaker 1: dan Kellen Moore, And for me, if I were looking
Speaker 1: at it, I'd be like, the way he flipped this
Speaker 1: defense from what it was last year to what it
Speaker 1: is this year. And then you can't count in the
Speaker 1: fact that he got his team to a super Bowl
Speaker 1: when he was a head coach. Yeah, they didn't win it,
Speaker 1: but as Jerry said this morning, he should be a
Speaker 1: super Bowl winning head coach like that was. There's no
Speaker 1: excuse for that. Ironically, Kyle Shanahan is like a darling
Speaker 1: in the NFL, and I put it more on him
Speaker 1: than dan Quinn. Dan Quinn's the head coach exactly right.
Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna take our first break and we
Speaker 1: come back. We're gonna be join by deal Wall talk
Speaker 1: a little bit of old time break and find out
Speaker 1: what's happening out there in Kansas City. Will when come back.
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Speaker 1: and we got a very special guest for you guys. Man.
Speaker 1: This this young lady. I feel like every time I
Speaker 1: see her, I feel like I'm proud, like a dad
Speaker 1: would be proud of his daughter because I saw from
Speaker 1: when she was just a babe in this business to
Speaker 1: where she has grown now. And we'll get into some
Speaker 1: of that, but welcome to the show, Miss deal Wall,
Speaker 1: Welcome back to you. What up guys? I'm so excited
Speaker 1: to be here. Yeah, we miss having you around here.
Speaker 1: Yeah from the dungeon, the old dungeon, the dank dungeon
Speaker 1: we used to be in. Yeah, it's very very different.
Speaker 1: We got Jerry spent some money on us a few
Speaker 1: years ago. So it's all good now. M Hey, real quick,
Speaker 1: what do you guys? What I want you to do
Speaker 1: is I want you to just kind of first tell
Speaker 1: people what's been going on in your life, because man,
Speaker 1: from where you were when you were here to where
Speaker 1: you are now, like everything has changed, everything has changed
Speaker 1: about your life. You've got a beautiful family, but talk
Speaker 1: about where you like what else happened these last several years. Man,
Speaker 1: I was really blessed and fortunate to work for the
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys for three seasons. Some of the best times
Speaker 1: in my life, some of the best friends in my life.
Speaker 1: And then when I did news in Sherman, Texas, and
Speaker 1: I moved to Tyler, Texas, and then Kansas City came
Speaker 1: calling six and a half years ago, and so I'm
Speaker 1: at KSHB. We are the NBC affiliate in Kansas City,
Speaker 1: also the home of the Chiefs, and so it's been awesome. Man,
Speaker 1: married two kids, I'm like a full fledged grown up. Now, yeah,
Speaker 1: you are. You are. And by the way, what the
Speaker 1: one thing you didn't talk about is you're also an author,
Speaker 1: like Nick is, Like you guys are both. Yeah? Really, yes,
Speaker 1: you know. So I decided to write a book after Oh, Nick,
Speaker 1: you forgot I think I did tell us about the book. Sorry.
Speaker 1: So the book is called The Unhappiest One, and it's
Speaker 1: all these different people, places, and experiences in my life
Speaker 1: that have taught me really meaningful lessons about happiness and
Speaker 1: fulfilled and so my journey there at what used to
Speaker 1: be the ranch was a big part of that, and
Speaker 1: you guys helped me quite a bit, I would say,
Speaker 1: except for Nick Derek. Yes, Nick. No. So when you're
Speaker 1: when you're in Kansas City and the Cowboys are playing,
Speaker 1: especially like a Sunday night game on NBC, Like, are
Speaker 1: you like full fledged Cowboys fan wearing I mean because
Speaker 1: I think I saw a picture with you wearing chiefs,
Speaker 1: So I don't know about that. First of all, let's
Speaker 1: roll this back, Okay. I am born and raised in
Speaker 1: the state of Texas. I'm a Cowboys fan, and I
Speaker 1: think everybody in the Kansas City metro knows that I
Speaker 1: wear Cowboys gear every game day. This is a hard
Speaker 1: week for me. Thankfully it only happens once every four seasons.
Speaker 1: But our station is the home of the Chiefs, right,
Speaker 1: so I've gotten to see what it does for a
Speaker 1: city that is really thirsting for a championship get to
Speaker 1: bring one home. And so I will never root against
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. I want them to be successful. I want
Speaker 1: them to do well because it's great for the community
Speaker 1: I love and live in now. But I'm a Cowboys
Speaker 1: fan forever, man, So how's that going to work this week? So?
Speaker 1: Who are you gonna be rooting for? Like, he's gonna
Speaker 1: be hard? Who are you gonna root for? Yeah? This
Speaker 1: is all on camera, all right, that's okay, you don't
Speaker 1: have to see it. For the Cowboys. I'm rooting for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. I have to first of all, listen, the
Speaker 1: Chiefs have won a championship. They've been to the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl twice in the last two years. Okay, my team
Speaker 1: needs to shine against the Chiefs. I'm just I'm rooting
Speaker 1: really hard for the Cowboys this week. Hey, I'll say this,
Speaker 1: nobody was more frustrated with Number nine ton I remember
Speaker 1: those days and then as Katon gates. This man gets
Speaker 1: to the booth, and I love Tony Romo on the call.
Speaker 1: I think he is amazing for CBS. However, You're right,
Speaker 1: I was totally frustrated, and I definitely can tell the
Speaker 1: difference in quarter quarterback play and leadership. I just I
Speaker 1: feel like number four makes you believe you can win.
Speaker 1: I say what you will, I will still die on
Speaker 1: that hill. Nick, All right, Hey, I'm with which, by
Speaker 1: the way, I've heard like so much about you over
Speaker 1: the years. It's surreal to actually be talking to you
Speaker 1: so high, um Dave, meeting you via zoom all these
Speaker 1: years later, which you'll be at dinner with a Saturday.
Speaker 1: Oh fantastic. I can't I can't wait. I'm I'm punk, which,
Speaker 1: so I mean you already kind of touched on this,
Speaker 1: but it's been kind of frustrating up there by recent
Speaker 1: chief standards. Obviously they kind of got back on track
Speaker 1: on Sunday. But I'm just curious what the vibe is like.
Speaker 1: Is it all sunshine and rainbows now that they beat
Speaker 1: the Raiders or what are we stepping into here? Come
Speaker 1: on that hill? You know what it is? Winning cares
Speaker 1: all right? I think the first weeks. I mean, the
Speaker 1: fans were pissed, the team was pissed. The Chiefs just
Speaker 1: didn't look like they were having fun and they were
Speaker 1: loose out there. And so they win a good division
Speaker 1: matchup on Sunday night. They hate the Raiders, that's a
Speaker 1: huge rivalry for them, and so I think for them
Speaker 1: it's like that confidence boost, that shot in the arm.
Speaker 1: So you think about a team that was under fire
Speaker 1: from even the fan base here in the city to
Speaker 1: now it's like, well, you know, the last time the
Speaker 1: Chiefs were six and four, the year they went to
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl and won, Like winning cares all. And
Speaker 1: I think if you're if you've watched enough football, you
Speaker 1: know that's the secret sauce. I talked to Nick Eatman
Speaker 1: that is last week, and it was like, watch, they're
Speaker 1: gonna get hot, right when the Cowboys come to town.
Speaker 1: How this is not a Sunday night game. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: have no idea. The biggest concern for the Chiefs. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: but I think the biggest concern for the Chiefs at
Speaker 1: this point is going to be, well when it comes
Speaker 1: to the Cowboys. The Chiefs know how to get out
Speaker 1: there and win, and they know how to get it done.
Speaker 1: I think they're a team that's had a championship mentality
Speaker 1: for the past two seasons. This season maybe been him
Speaker 1: in the butt a little bit. And so I think
Speaker 1: they're ready to come out and really try to run
Speaker 1: the table because they're still in fourth place and really
Speaker 1: trying to push to get to the postseason and make
Speaker 1: another Super Bowl run. Yeah. And the thing is is
Speaker 1: Fox is doing doing this game, and you know they
Speaker 1: only get a couple of chances a year to get
Speaker 1: the Chiefs and get Patrick Mahomes. And you know, I
Speaker 1: was going to ask you, d I saw a commercial
Speaker 1: the other day that didn't have Patrick Mahomes in it.
Speaker 1: It was weird. I mean, because he's in every other one.
Speaker 1: Have you met him? And he seems like even and
Speaker 1: this might change Sunday after, you know, Cowboys had to
Speaker 1: play him, but he seems like a guy you would
Speaker 1: just want to root for it. I mean, I like him,
Speaker 1: I like watching I like everything I see from him.
Speaker 1: Is he that guy? And if you have experiences, you know,
Speaker 1: meeting him or interviewing him. Yeah, So I think I've
Speaker 1: met Patrick Mahomes once or twice, not a ton. I
Speaker 1: cover a little bit of sports. I mostly do news now,
Speaker 1: But he's a great guy. I mean, he's done some
Speaker 1: really really impactful things in the community through his foundation,
Speaker 1: opened some great all inclusive parks in the city and
Speaker 1: underserved areas. So like you can drive now through the
Speaker 1: inner city and see kids and families out playing. Right,
Speaker 1: he's on the cereal boxes. I mean, he's just all
Speaker 1: over the place. Donated like twenty five thousand books to
Speaker 1: kids just a couple of weeks ago. So I definitely
Speaker 1: think he's also made investments in local teams. So he's
Speaker 1: part owner of the Kansas City Royal, his fiance part
Speaker 1: owner of the Kansas City Current, which is and I
Speaker 1: mean the women's soccer professional team is bringing the first
Speaker 1: dedicated stadium for a women's soccer team in the entire
Speaker 1: country to Kansas City. And so I think he's made
Speaker 1: a lot of smart investments in the community. I think
Speaker 1: he's really made it known that he loves this city,
Speaker 1: in this community, and he wants to stay here. Keeps
Speaker 1: no slings, stay a lot of trouble. Like, he's just
Speaker 1: like a good dude. So it is hard, it is
Speaker 1: hard not to root for him and want to see
Speaker 1: him be successful. Plus. I mean he's from Texas. Yeah,
Speaker 1: which did y'all see what's happening in Kansas City this
Speaker 1: week of all weeks. No, they're opening water Burger put
Speaker 1: from Patrick Mahomes Like, okay, that's been his initiative. He's like,
Speaker 1: we gotta get water Burgers. Change it up. We should
Speaker 1: be going to dinner at water Burgers. I don't know, man,
Speaker 1: you see the lions. You see the lions on the
Speaker 1: drive through. He's like, no, no, no, no. It was insane.
Speaker 1: It was insane. People were lining up at five six
Speaker 1: am and they didn't been opened until eleven. Hey. Hey,
Speaker 1: Battleburger is pretty good. I mean, I get it. Nothing
Speaker 1: is worth waiting in that line. That's true power right there.
Speaker 1: I mean, you bring water Burgers in town. So deal,
Speaker 1: let me ask you this. I don't I think sometimes
Speaker 1: good No, no, no, you go ahead, Okay, I was
Speaker 1: gonna ask you. I know, being in Dallas, it's hard
Speaker 1: sometimes to know what people are saying in other cities
Speaker 1: about the Cowboys. What's the tone of the conversation in
Speaker 1: Kansas City about Dallas this year? Oh boy, everybody loves
Speaker 1: to hate the Cowboys. That's what's so crazy. I don't
Speaker 1: really understand that. You know, I think every team has
Speaker 1: dreamed of taking down America's team. Right. They could be mad,
Speaker 1: they could be frustrated, whatever, but I think for them,
Speaker 1: they want this to be a statement game. So I
Speaker 1: know a lot of Chiefs fans here. Again no secret
Speaker 1: that I'm a Cowboys fan, and so my mentions and
Speaker 1: d ms, the Chiefs hadn't even got to zero on
Speaker 1: Sunday night on the clock before they were like, oh,
Speaker 1: we can't wait, We're gonna tear the Cowgirls up. And
Speaker 1: I'm like, y'all, just let them settle it on the field, like,
Speaker 1: let them go out there and play. So I think,
Speaker 1: especially when, to be honest, the Cowboys look different than
Speaker 1: I've seen them look in my adult life on all
Speaker 1: three phases of the game. And so I think, especially
Speaker 1: knowing that the Cowboys are riding a little bit high,
Speaker 1: playing really well, and executing at a high level, the
Speaker 1: Chiefs feel like they got the ship on their shoulder,
Speaker 1: and so does their fan base now since they've come
Speaker 1: up against a little bit of adversity this season. So
Speaker 1: now I think they're like, oh, yeah, we're gonna prove
Speaker 1: that the Cowboys aren't who you think they are, and
Speaker 1: so I think for them, they want this to be
Speaker 1: a statement game, and so I think in order for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys to win, they got a come out and
Speaker 1: set the tone early. This is going to be a
Speaker 1: game that I think, shockingly, both offenses are potent can
Speaker 1: really beat you. But I think this is going to
Speaker 1: be a game where the defense is going to turn
Speaker 1: the tide. Okay, So with regard to the fans that
Speaker 1: are in the city, are there is that one of
Speaker 1: those cities where there are a lot of Cowboys fans
Speaker 1: and do you expect them to be at the game
Speaker 1: this week? Do you expect to be a nice number
Speaker 1: of Cowboys fans in the stands? Or this one is
Speaker 1: it was this one of those stadiums where it's gonna
Speaker 1: be all Kansas City. They don't sell their tickets. It's
Speaker 1: just gonna be a hometown game. I think they're going
Speaker 1: to be a good number of Cowboys fans. But Chief's
Speaker 1: Kingdom as they call it, is ready. Okay. I think
Speaker 1: this is one game that everybody wants to be at.
Speaker 1: The tickets for the Cowboys game, we're almost double the
Speaker 1: price of tickets for every other opponent on the schedule
Speaker 1: from the minute that the schedule was released. That's the
Speaker 1: Cowboys of FAI. Let's call it what it is, right, So,
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people want to be in
Speaker 1: the stands. However, I'm actually doing a story today. I
Speaker 1: will be going out to interview some prominent cowboys fans
Speaker 1: towne who does a big radio show, one who has
Speaker 1: a huge Cowboys flag in his yard. The neighbors are living,
Speaker 1: so I mean, I definitely think the contingent here is
Speaker 1: loud and proud and excited because cowboys only come to
Speaker 1: town every eight seasons, so they're trying to make the
Speaker 1: most of it. That's awesome, all right, real quick, before
Speaker 1: we end the show, do you have a good Nick
Speaker 1: Eatman's story from the time. If you don't, it's okay.
Speaker 1: But do you have a good story of Nick Eatman
Speaker 1: from back in the day when he was a young man?
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, okay, so funny, Nick fly original breakers, right.
Speaker 1: Me and Nick used to sit next to each other
Speaker 1: in the studio, and one I was always nervous about
Speaker 1: what he would say, what he would do. Nick's goal
Speaker 1: every single show was to throw me off my game
Speaker 1: with terrible inside jokes, not all of them appropriate sounds
Speaker 1: about right, say exactly exactly. But I will tell you
Speaker 1: nothing made Nick happier than to get me flustered so
Speaker 1: that he could again just annihilate me on the show.
Speaker 1: And nothing's changed. Man, I feel can't through you, guys,
Speaker 1: my big brothers. I'm I'm so proud to see the
Speaker 1: growth of the show. I'm glad you let me put
Speaker 1: you on social media ten years ago. Yeah right, yeah,
Speaker 1: you were responsible for us getting a Twitter account. Yeah, absolutely, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I got a Dia story. Give me, give me a
Speaker 1: Dia story. Yeah, no, no, no, this is this isn't on,
Speaker 1: This isn't a bad one. We we were hosting together
Speaker 1: of the Jerry Jones Show one year and we had
Speaker 1: tried to do some fun bits there, you know, for
Speaker 1: a certain segment. So one year we were in training
Speaker 1: camp in in uh San, Antonio, and so we decided
Speaker 1: that we were gonna learn the the you know, the
Speaker 1: ins and out of a field goal. A field goal.
Speaker 1: So I got to work with Matt McBriar as the holder,
Speaker 1: and Dia got to work with Pete Latticer, who was
Speaker 1: a nice nice to Dia and snapping, and I thought
Speaker 1: I got the easiest part of it, you know, because
Speaker 1: I just got the hold and just spend it and
Speaker 1: Layson's out Dan, you know easy. She actually, in about
Speaker 1: thirty minutes, learned how to snap this thing perfectly. She
Speaker 1: was snapping, I was holding. We were gonna kick a
Speaker 1: field goal for David Bieler. That was what we were
Speaker 1: gonna do. We had the cameras out, we were gonna
Speaker 1: do it, and so I go to the camera and
Speaker 1: I'm like, we just hied the game. We're gonna do it,
Speaker 1: and David Beeler comes up and he was like, what
Speaker 1: are we doing. We're not kicking this for real. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're gonna kick it. She snaps, I hold, you kick it.
Speaker 1: He was like, no, no, no, no, I'm not doing
Speaker 1: that kind of walks off, and then McBriar was like,
Speaker 1: kickers are weird, man. They don't want anyone else to
Speaker 1: do it. So we had to change the whole segment
Speaker 1: and we did the lsu flip over the shoulder Beeler
Speaker 1: and so we were like, we went for two. We
Speaker 1: went for two. We never actually got to do it,
Speaker 1: but Dia the snap was perfect. I thought the hold
Speaker 1: was good. We didn't get the kick and kick it
Speaker 1: but it's okay. But she learned how to snap in
Speaker 1: thirty minutes. They get old days. Oh no, actually I
Speaker 1: have to throw in. One of my favorites was when
Speaker 1: we ran the forty. I'll remember that, Yes, I do
Speaker 1: remember that. Oh yeah, yeah, whatever against josh Ellis. Who right,
Speaker 1: we can talk about that. I mean, and we couldn't
Speaker 1: do it today. Oh we definitely could. This used to
Speaker 1: be a way more fun show. Oh yeah, me Dash
Speaker 1: Derek ran the forty together and and uh, I don't
Speaker 1: know what happened. We're an alamodome and and you know
Speaker 1: I was a little thinner back then and long legs,
Speaker 1: and I think I got Derek and then so so
Speaker 1: then Derek like, let's let's do it again. So we
Speaker 1: did it again, and I might have jumped the gun
Speaker 1: a little bit. Got to start on that one, a
Speaker 1: second one. And I don't know what happened behind this,
Speaker 1: but I know Josh Ellis came last lying and gotta
Speaker 1: he fell on the turf and all that DA beat
Speaker 1: him with with those shoes on right, somebody didn't have shop. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was not running. I I got rest. Thank you
Speaker 1: so much for letting me come crash the boy. Oh
Speaker 1: my gosh. We are such family and such good times.
Speaker 1: I need your predictions for the game. I won't make one.
Speaker 1: We can't be making predictions on that predict. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be loud. Yeah, I will tell you this. Cowboys will win.
Speaker 1: I'm just trying. I'm not ready to get my score yet,
Speaker 1: but Cowboys gonna win. Definitely gonna win. I'm not there yet.
Speaker 1: I told Nick cannot. Yeah, they need to if they're
Speaker 1: trying to make a push for the Super Bowl. Hey,
Speaker 1: thank you, Thank you guys. So much fun and I
Speaker 1: can't wait to welcome you to Casey. Yeah, we'll see
Speaker 1: you on Saturday night. Thanks. All right, we're gonna say
Speaker 1: our final break and we come back. We got some
Speaker 1: more that we're gonna get into. Talk a little bit
Speaker 1: about NFC Little Pro Bowl. We'll do that when we
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Speaker 1: I would you know, I was just waiting for like, honestly,
Speaker 1: I thought like maybe whole Coogan was going to come back.
Speaker 1: I thought there was a chance he might come back,
Speaker 1: or the Rock Robby, the guy holding up to Coco
Speaker 1: b weare sign and then Coco Cocobs the chic. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm do you remember Cocob? Where's a parrot that he had?
Speaker 1: Remember the name of it was? No, I don't what
Speaker 1: was it? I think it was Frankie Frankie? Maybe does
Speaker 1: that not ringle bell? I don't know, Cocob not saying
Speaker 1: you're wrong. I'm just saying I don't remember that. Maybe not.
Speaker 1: That just sounds right to me. How about how about
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy, which I asked him about, walked by talking
Speaker 1: about wrestling. I asked him, you know, he said, he
Speaker 1: goes back. He said, George to the animals steel remember
Speaker 1: that used to like eat the turnbuckle. Oh, Mike McCarthy,
Speaker 1: There no doubt in my mind he was a pro
Speaker 1: wrestling guy at one point in his life. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure. Pretty much everybody was at some point in
Speaker 1: their lives. Yeah, you gotta win it? How long? Right? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah? Okay?
Speaker 1: You know, all right, here was we're gonna do. I
Speaker 1: want to talk a little bit. And this is a
Speaker 1: topic I brought up yesterday afternoon. This is kind of
Speaker 1: stuff for you guys out there listening that we do
Speaker 1: in our office on a regular occasion. I just was
Speaker 1: kind of like, you think Dak's gonna be you think
Speaker 1: he's a legitimate MVP League MVP candidate and he is
Speaker 1: like he gave me his answer, and I asked Day
Speaker 1: the same question. He gave me his answer. I was like, bet,
Speaker 1: that's a show topic. So here we got a segment.
Speaker 1: Here we go. I'm gonna toss it up and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna let you guys go at it a little bit.
Speaker 1: Here is Dak Prescott a legit MVP candidate? Go ahead, Yes,
Speaker 1: he's a legit candidate. I don't think he'll win. So
Speaker 1: maybe if I don't think he'll win, then I guess
Speaker 1: I don't think think he's a legit candidate because I
Speaker 1: don't think he's going to win. I just think there's
Speaker 1: other teams, other guys that are probably by the end
Speaker 1: of the year will probably be considered more of a
Speaker 1: one dimensional. They'll lead their team. They're the only guy
Speaker 1: that they've gotten by one dimensional saying, oh, just like
Speaker 1: an Aaron Rodgers or a maybe you mean a team
Speaker 1: that everything they do is about him? Yeah, I got yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what And I just you know, I don't think
Speaker 1: the Minnesota game helped from that standpoint, they were able
Speaker 1: to win without him. Um, you know, and he's having
Speaker 1: a great season and he is the best player on
Speaker 1: the team. I'm not saying he's not. I just feel
Speaker 1: like at the end of the year, they'll probably be
Speaker 1: other guys that have a record right up there, and
Speaker 1: they'll they don't have as much help, they won't have
Speaker 1: as many Pro Bowlers around him. So that's why I
Speaker 1: don't think he'll probably get that. I think I think
Speaker 1: either Dak Prescott or Kyler Murray's gonna win an FL
Speaker 1: MVP this year. I mean, and that's simplistic. We're only
Speaker 1: halfway through the season. Rogers is in there, Brady's in there,
Speaker 1: but you can already see it shaping up. And we
Speaker 1: talked about this yesterday. I'm stealing this straight from m
Speaker 1: Robert Mays, who does a wonderful job with The Athletic
Speaker 1: Football Show. When you think about the narratives, I really
Speaker 1: think that that's important. I think that's really important. Um,
Speaker 1: he's never won it before. You got Brady, who's won it.
Speaker 1: I think three times. Rogers just won it. They don't
Speaker 1: They don't like that. They want new Dak Prescott is new.
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott is also playing amazing football. He's on pace
Speaker 1: for forty yards for touchdowns. He is the engine that
Speaker 1: makes this thing go. I also think this is weird
Speaker 1: to say, along with Brady and Rogers, he is the
Speaker 1: most like developed passer in the NFL. Like how much
Speaker 1: of what the Cowboys do is predicated on Dak seeing
Speaker 1: what the defense is offering, changing it, sliding the protection,
Speaker 1: telling CD lamb, Hey they're bringing cover zero, this is
Speaker 1: what they're gonna do. Make for the back pylon. I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna chuck this thing to space and it's gonna
Speaker 1: come down in your lap. Like he's He's incredible. He
Speaker 1: is operating at a Peyton Manning type of level, which
Speaker 1: people aren't. There's still people that aren't ready for that.
Speaker 1: Like there's still people that think of Dak as like
Speaker 1: read option, look for your first or second read or
Speaker 1: let Zeke take Like, no, we're so far past that.
Speaker 1: I think he is one of the three four best
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the world right now at diagnosing what a
Speaker 1: defense is trying to do. Kyler Murray is just a
Speaker 1: phenomenal athlete. I think he's developing all of that as
Speaker 1: he goes, but he's got the athleticism that lets him
Speaker 1: make all these crazy plays. He's also missed two games
Speaker 1: to injury, by the way, Cardinals won one of those,
Speaker 1: So I'm not I'm not trying to hear that eking
Speaker 1: past Minnesota discredits what Dak has done this year, especially
Speaker 1: if he keeps this up for eight more weeks. Like
Speaker 1: I said, you factor in all of that with what
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are doing, the brand power of the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: They haven't had an NFL mv PE sin simme at
Speaker 1: Smith right nineteen ninety three. He's if it's even debatable,
Speaker 1: he's gonna win for the near the Star. The fact
Speaker 1: that it hasn't happened in twenty can go backward, that
Speaker 1: can go the other way too. There are a lot
Speaker 1: of people out there that hate the Star. Like that
Speaker 1: goes both ways, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: it's almost like a snowball effect though, And and the
Speaker 1: writers that vote on it don't hate the Star. The
Speaker 1: fans might. But and it's it's a new face. It's
Speaker 1: a new person kind of carrying you into this new
Speaker 1: era instead of Rogers who's won it a decade ago.
Speaker 1: And Brady who's won it eons ago as as well
Speaker 1: as recently. So I just think it's if it's even close.
Speaker 1: I think he's got a fantastic chance to win it
Speaker 1: as long as he stays healthy. Honestly, Nick, let me
Speaker 1: ask you this, what do you think or is there
Speaker 1: something that Dad can do more of that you think
Speaker 1: would turn it in his favor? Well, I mean not
Speaker 1: in his favor right now. I mean, I guess it
Speaker 1: all comes down to how you think things are going
Speaker 1: to finish, and I feel like, you know, I think
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are going to have some This is going
Speaker 1: to kind of go up and down a little bit.
Speaker 1: This schedule that's in front of them is still going
Speaker 1: to be daunting him, in my opinion, and I think
Speaker 1: this is the time of year where a lot of
Speaker 1: those decisions are made. So it all comes down to
Speaker 1: what the Cowboys are going to do here in the
Speaker 1: next month. You know, they got five games in front
Speaker 1: of him, four of them on the road, So you know,
Speaker 1: he's if he if they go and they go four
Speaker 1: and one in that stretch, or maybe even three and
Speaker 1: two if it's the right games, then yeah, I think
Speaker 1: he has a chance to, like Dave said kind of
Speaker 1: put himself up there. I just have this feeling and
Speaker 1: maybe because I've never seen it. I think I've seen
Speaker 1: a lot of things before, um, other than an NFC
Speaker 1: Championship game in the tie and in an MVP, you know,
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys. I I just can't visualize that happening,
Speaker 1: and I feel like the voters won't go for that.
Speaker 1: They'll probably look at the ballot and they'll think, come
Speaker 1: back Player of the Year. Oh, that's let's put back there.
Speaker 1: That's where I think it's going to happen. Oh, he
Speaker 1: already won that, unless he gets so many votes for
Speaker 1: MVP that they're like, all right, well let's give let's
Speaker 1: give it. Let's I can't think it's somebody sure, yeah, sure,
Speaker 1: Joe Burst. I forgot to mention Matthew Stafford. And there's
Speaker 1: something to be said for the power of LA and
Speaker 1: the league is just force feeding us LA right now
Speaker 1: between the Super Bowl being there and Stafford and then
Speaker 1: they're adding these players. Yeah, maybe it's I was thinking
Speaker 1: about that when Dio was talking, like, and I laugh.
Speaker 1: I've been in this for eight years, so I get it,
Speaker 1: and I love Cowboy Nation, But like I vividly remember
Speaker 1: what it's like to be a fan of a non
Speaker 1: Cowboy team and how annoying that is. Um, and so
Speaker 1: maybe it's kind of a taste of our own medicine
Speaker 1: where you're like, not enough about the Rams. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: well guess what, that's what thirty other teams think about
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. So um so yeah, but Stafford Kyler and
Speaker 1: I think Dak is right there, and like, if you
Speaker 1: put him in order right now, how do you think it?
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm biased, Like, and I've watched every snap
Speaker 1: of Dak's season, Kyler, Murray's incredible, the stuff that he
Speaker 1: can do. Um, I mean, I'd go with Dak, but
Speaker 1: I'm I'm way too biased to offer an impartial opinion. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's really interesting to me when you look at
Speaker 1: what Dak was as a colle it's quarterback to what
Speaker 1: he is now as an NFL quarterback. It's been such
Speaker 1: a remarkable change, Like he is not the runner that
Speaker 1: he was in college. I would even say at this point,
Speaker 1: Dak is among the very best proficient pocket passers in
Speaker 1: the NFL. Like the way he sits back there, and
Speaker 1: you were talking about how he sits back there, figures
Speaker 1: out what's going on with the coverage, gets the ball
Speaker 1: to the right guy and is accurate, gets the ball
Speaker 1: where it needs to be in and some really sometimes
Speaker 1: some really interesting ways he has to get the ball
Speaker 1: in there. Like I'm just so impressed with how he
Speaker 1: has kind of changed his game from what it was
Speaker 1: to what it is now, and it is so good
Speaker 1: at it. You could do a whole show on this.
Speaker 1: But it's interesting the way the league is structured. You
Speaker 1: got to find a quarterback quick because they're cheap on
Speaker 1: their rookie contracts. So guys are playing younger than ever
Speaker 1: and it's easier not to discredit them. But it's easier
Speaker 1: to play a quarterback than it was even ten years ago.
Speaker 1: Roethlisberger's on his last legs, Brady will eventually be done
Speaker 1: at some point. Rogers is what maybe Mannings are at.
Speaker 1: Both of the Mannings have retired, Romo's retired, like Rivers retired.
Speaker 1: All these guys they got old and aged out, and
Speaker 1: now it's young guys who are good but are still
Speaker 1: learning how to play the position. Like a lot of
Speaker 1: these offenses are still I don't want to say they're
Speaker 1: like simplified, but you're still just kind of learning as
Speaker 1: you go and kind of scheming things up for guys
Speaker 1: who aren't all the way there. I mean, even Mahomes,
Speaker 1: who everybody agrees as the best quarterback in the league.
Speaker 1: He even said, like, I'm still just learning how to
Speaker 1: read coverages. Remember when he said that like two years ago.
Speaker 1: And so it's weird to say, but Dak is in
Speaker 1: this weird. It's not weird. It's impressive, but he is.
Speaker 1: Like I said, he's like one of the two or
Speaker 1: three most accomplished passers, not pure quarterbacks, but just in
Speaker 1: terms of knowing what defenses are doing, know how to
Speaker 1: counteract it, all that stuff. It's weird to think because
Speaker 1: he's only twenty eight, but he's right up there in
Speaker 1: terms of just understanding how to play the position. All right,
Speaker 1: that's a rap for us. We're going to be back tomorrow.
Speaker 1: We're gonna start getting into Cowboys versus Chiefs. Well, have
Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks join us. We'll talk about the Chiefs offense
Speaker 1: versus the Cowboys defense. Still in for Nick even to
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