WEBVTT - Men in Black with Sam Ike 0:00:00.360 --> 0:00:03.199 On the Big Dog Cast, the questions asked if movies 0:00:03.240 --> 0:00:06.920 have women inum, are all their discussions just boyfriends and 0:00:07.000 --> 0:00:11.280 husbands or do they have individualism the patriarchy? Zef and 0:00:11.440 --> 0:00:16.680 best start changing it with the Beck Doll Cast. Welcome 0:00:16.720 --> 0:00:26.520 to the studies. You're hostening back fast and Jamie loved 0:00:21.200 --> 0:00:31.000 it to our live show as a Boston from the 0:00:31.040 --> 0:00:35.520 ours possible. Thanks for having us here and to improv Boston. Yeah. Yeah, 0:00:35.600 --> 0:00:38.120 we're happy to be here. I'm doing a good job 0:00:38.120 --> 0:00:43.640 so far. You're killing it. I'm killing it. We're very sleepy. 0:00:43.680 --> 0:00:46.720 I'm hilarious. Less than twenty four hours ago we recorded 0:00:46.760 --> 0:00:50.199 another live episode, well, actually like twelve hours. Yeah, we're 0:00:51.120 --> 0:00:55.120 episode in New York City. I ever heard of it? 0:00:55.400 --> 0:00:59.560 Bit there and then we slept next to each other 0:00:59.640 --> 0:01:02.640 on a coach bus. This morning was very intimate. Yeah, 0:01:02.880 --> 0:01:04.880 it's nice. At least we don't have to share a 0:01:04.920 --> 0:01:08.319 mike this time. Last night we were scissoring each other 0:01:08.560 --> 0:01:13.080 in order to share a mike. It was very cute. 0:01:13.120 --> 0:01:16.800 People loved it. I suggested, what was the name change? 0:01:17.240 --> 0:01:22.000 The Scissor Friends. That's the news. We're scrapping the bike podcast. 0:01:23.760 --> 0:01:29.680 Who has listened to our podcast before last time, last 0:01:29.720 --> 0:01:31.679 time we did our first live episode or in April, 0:01:31.680 --> 0:01:37.080 and everyone was like, like everyone had wandered into the 0:01:37.120 --> 0:01:40.000 wrong round. Has anyone not heard an episode of the 0:01:40.040 --> 0:01:44.119 Bectel Cast before? Oh, I brought my hertphon, got good, 0:01:44.200 --> 0:01:49.400 let's just okay, Uh, that's okay. We'll explain to you 0:01:49.440 --> 0:01:52.320 what it did. We sure will. The Bectel Cast is 0:01:52.360 --> 0:01:55.320 inspired by the Bechtel Test. It's a test that requires 0:01:55.320 --> 0:01:57.320 that a movie or a TV show or anything with 0:01:57.400 --> 0:02:00.480 characters in a story has two women. They have to 0:02:00.480 --> 0:02:02.720 speak to each other. Those two women characters have to 0:02:02.760 --> 0:02:05.240 have names, and their conversation has to be about something 0:02:05.240 --> 0:02:12.600 other than a man. Don't pass. It sounds like a joke, 0:02:12.680 --> 0:02:17.200 but it is just tragically nine of movies in existence. Yes, 0:02:17.680 --> 0:02:20.680 So we're here to talk about the portrayal of women 0:02:20.720 --> 0:02:23.360 and movies and how it's shitty and how it should 0:02:23.400 --> 0:02:30.800 be better. Where the scissor friends, And then we're talking 0:02:30.800 --> 0:02:33.200 about a specific movie today. Also, the last time we 0:02:33.240 --> 0:02:35.760 recorded a live episode here, we're like, Hey, has anyone 0:02:35.800 --> 0:02:38.400 seen Dirty Dancing? The movie we're talking about today, And 0:02:38.440 --> 0:02:45.639 everyone's like, no, what is this? What's the movie? What's 0:02:45.639 --> 0:02:50.720 the movie Real Feral Degenerates here last you're returning audience member. 0:02:53.440 --> 0:02:56.919 It made a real weird last So today we're talking 0:02:56.919 --> 0:02:59.200 about Men and Black by dam Plaus who has not 0:02:59.240 --> 0:03:06.600 seen Men and a calling out a name. We're about 0:03:06.639 --> 0:03:10.200 to spoil every second of it, so I'm sorry. One 0:03:10.280 --> 0:03:14.120 of those movies that is again on television all one 0:03:14.639 --> 0:03:17.880 percent of the time. It's well, really quick. I just 0:03:17.880 --> 0:03:20.480 wanted to check in with our usual stuff at the top, 0:03:21.400 --> 0:03:25.680 Alfred Billina, check for people who isn't well. We know 0:03:25.760 --> 0:03:27.920 we do have an upda Alfred Billina. We didn't talk 0:03:27.960 --> 0:03:30.400 about it at the Scissor Friends last night. Wait what 0:03:30.560 --> 0:03:33.720 is it? So we normally work with our producer Aristotle, 0:03:34.120 --> 0:03:37.960 and he was near Alfred Molina a couple of days ago. Yes, 0:03:38.920 --> 0:03:41.640 and oh wait, no, it's tomorrow. It's tomorrow. I think 0:03:41.680 --> 0:03:45.960 he's gonna be near Alfred Billina on nine eleven. Never 0:03:46.480 --> 0:03:52.800 forget Alfre Billina probably doesn't forget nine eleven, one of 0:03:52.840 --> 0:03:57.640 the many amazing qualities he has. I've sent a lot 0:03:57.640 --> 0:04:01.840 of confusion from the audience. Why are they talking about 0:04:01.880 --> 0:04:04.680 Alfred Blayna so much on the podcast about the portrayal 0:04:04.720 --> 0:04:09.320 of women in movies because Alfred Molina, well he's an ally, 0:04:09.840 --> 0:04:16.560 he's our greatest ally probably. He's also a master of 0:04:16.600 --> 0:04:18.800 his craft, and we just respect what he does so much, 0:04:19.320 --> 0:04:23.120 beginning with the Royal Shakespeare Company in the late nineties seventies. Hey, 0:04:23.160 --> 0:04:28.840 what's the rules our guest, I'll check it a little later. Okay, 0:04:30.040 --> 0:04:33.880 oh yeah, without much further ado. So we have every 0:04:34.040 --> 0:04:36.279 episode we we talked about a specific movie, and we 0:04:36.320 --> 0:04:39.480 have a guest to help us. Not that we need it, 0:04:39.920 --> 0:04:45.120 but we're happy to have our guests here. Our guest today, 0:04:45.320 --> 0:04:50.680 we don't need him. Thanks for voluntaring your time, you 0:04:50.920 --> 0:04:59.320 dumb bit. He's a friend of our she's a friend 0:04:59.360 --> 0:05:01.440 of the cast. He's so funny. He's a local comic 0:05:01.480 --> 0:05:13.320 here in Boston. Give it up for Sam. Thank you, 0:05:14.040 --> 0:05:19.160 thank you, thank you. I love how it just started 0:05:19.200 --> 0:05:22.760 with we basically we just came on until this guy. 0:05:22.880 --> 0:05:26.440 We didn't want him, we did not need him. We're 0:05:26.520 --> 0:05:31.120 just saying we could, we could do it alone. We've 0:05:31.160 --> 0:05:35.680 never had a live podcast with alive man before. Most 0:05:35.720 --> 0:05:41.440 of our male guests are kidd evers, but we we 0:05:41.839 --> 0:05:47.000 we recording studio in our studio. We are studio. We're millionaires. 0:05:47.560 --> 0:05:50.520 We only recording in the studio that we usually restrain 0:05:50.800 --> 0:05:53.479 the male guest depending on how threatening they seem with 0:05:53.600 --> 0:05:58.479 any assortment of Bungee's chains. SAMs says a bungee guy. 0:05:58.520 --> 0:06:00.720 He's like, yeah, he's not gonna hurt us. I'm easily 0:06:00.920 --> 0:06:07.200 the weakest man in this block. I don't think Sam 0:06:07.200 --> 0:06:13.320 could escape the bungees. Well, Sam, thank you so much 0:06:13.400 --> 0:06:15.760 for being here and for bringing us the movie Men 0:06:15.800 --> 0:06:21.240 in Black? Tell us why is there a special isn't 0:06:21.279 --> 0:06:23.440 you chose this movie? What's your history with it? How 0:06:23.440 --> 0:06:26.960 many times you've seen it? I believe in aliens because 0:06:27.000 --> 0:06:30.520 of this movie. Okay, I bought into it. I saw 0:06:30.560 --> 0:06:38.320 it and I was like, that seems accurate. And this 0:06:38.440 --> 0:06:43.320 is more of like an indoctrination. Someone told me I 0:06:43.360 --> 0:06:45.320 could talk about in a movie for an hour, and 0:06:45.360 --> 0:06:47.599 I was like, oh, and I could convince people that 0:06:47.680 --> 0:07:04.480 aliens exist. Great, I'm really excited to come so Okay, Well, honestly, 0:07:04.600 --> 0:07:08.240 I think there probably is. I mean, the universe is infinite. 0:07:08.520 --> 0:07:11.520 Here's what happened, all right, let me start over. Well 0:07:11.560 --> 0:07:17.440 you know what happened? I don't. I'm looking started at 0:07:17.440 --> 0:07:21.040 the beginning. Well, when did you see the movie? I 0:07:21.080 --> 0:07:23.680 saw ninety six when he came out. I think he 0:07:23.680 --> 0:07:27.800 came out of ninety six ninety seven? Is that you 0:07:28.000 --> 0:07:36.120 Jamie's mother? She cannot have placed herself in a more 0:07:36.160 --> 0:07:44.480 prominent places. She basically has a spotlight? Did you know 0:07:44.680 --> 0:07:52.800 that beforehand? Absolutely? I saw it saves around in It's 0:07:52.880 --> 0:07:59.040 Just Your Life was ninety five skip ninety six, So 0:07:59.120 --> 0:08:02.720 you saw it early when it came out, Yeah, multiple times. 0:08:02.760 --> 0:08:05.160 I loved it. I used to when my friends, I 0:08:05.200 --> 0:08:10.400 used to try to sapplemtory. Yeahs called what's it called? 0:08:10.480 --> 0:08:13.600 What's that? They called the neuralize? Yeah, I shot and 0:08:13.680 --> 0:08:25.640 neuralize my friends. Didn't they have nose neuralized movie? I 0:08:25.720 --> 0:08:31.280 love how interactive of the show. This it's a live event, dynamic. 0:08:31.560 --> 0:08:35.160 There's neuralizers. Didn't they have them at like Burger King 0:08:35.240 --> 0:08:37.200 or something? There was like Burger King and kind of 0:08:37.200 --> 0:08:40.319 black Boys, and I very specifically remember wanting Yeah it 0:08:40.440 --> 0:08:42.000 came with that, and it came and then it was 0:08:42.040 --> 0:08:46.640 a little alien from the video. Yeah. First of all, 0:08:47.200 --> 0:08:50.320 I love that, Like there's just an era with movies 0:08:50.400 --> 0:08:55.679 with family friendly rapped theme songs. This is one of 0:08:55.720 --> 0:08:58.040 the best. It's not better than Wild Wild West. The 0:08:58.040 --> 0:09:00.800 theme song Wall West his fants house singing I loved 0:09:01.000 --> 0:09:05.320 l O cou j deep blue c Yeah, I'm a 0:09:05.400 --> 0:09:12.680 shark Fin song was called shark Fit. Yeah. Have you 0:09:12.720 --> 0:09:20.680 heard it? Ladies love Cold Chance, I'll check it out. 0:09:21.000 --> 0:09:25.640 One of my favorite movies, Master of Disguise. They failed, 0:09:25.679 --> 0:09:29.720 Dana Carr ended Dana Carvey's career. Davia Carby is amazing. 0:09:29.760 --> 0:09:32.280 He's still alive today given the fact that this movie exists. 0:09:32.640 --> 0:09:36.840 But he u there was a rap theme song for that, 0:09:37.200 --> 0:09:40.760 but no one saw the movie and the song was garbage. 0:09:41.320 --> 0:09:45.280 So I'm always disappointed when a movie has a bad 0:09:45.400 --> 0:09:48.760 rap song like that was the reason why. Then like Carol, Yeah, 0:09:49.880 --> 0:09:52.800 rap song and Carol was terrible. It just like didn't Yeah, 0:09:52.920 --> 0:10:04.240 it didn't fit the movie. Check came rap imagine great 0:10:04.280 --> 0:10:13.480 with that, I think, yeah, you gotta go. I mean, 0:10:13.520 --> 0:10:15.760 I think that Carol is going to have a second 0:10:15.800 --> 0:10:27.160 coming featuring Rooney Merrit and with this a little alien, 0:10:29.280 --> 0:10:41.920 black alien story, I'm speaking at home man in black. Um, 0:10:42.800 --> 0:10:44.600 when did you first see it, Jamie? Did you see 0:10:44.640 --> 0:10:49.440 it with your mom in Well, I certainly didn't see 0:10:49.440 --> 0:10:53.800 it in I know, I didn't I think I was 0:10:53.840 --> 0:10:55.120 too young to see it when it came out, but 0:10:55.320 --> 0:10:59.080 I remember watching it with my cousin on VHS probably 0:10:59.200 --> 0:11:02.120 some time. I never like two thousands, and I remember 0:11:02.160 --> 0:11:04.840 I remember seeing the burgs king toys and not knowing 0:11:04.840 --> 0:11:07.480 what they were, but being like, well, aliens and ghost 0:11:07.559 --> 0:11:09.959 or for sure real. So I'm gonna want to like, 0:11:10.040 --> 0:11:11.680 I wish I could get in the ground floor of this. 0:11:11.840 --> 0:11:18.559 Unfortunately I don't have all my teeth. So so you 0:11:18.679 --> 0:11:22.520 also are on the pro aliens exist side of things. 0:11:22.520 --> 0:11:27.320 I feel stronger about ghosts, but I do believe in aliens. Yes, 0:11:27.880 --> 0:11:31.560 I mean we've already talked about the movie Ghost, so yeah, 0:11:31.720 --> 0:11:39.160 we that's their ghosts exists. Yeah. What I was gonna 0:11:39.200 --> 0:11:42.000 say is that I saw this movie in n when 0:11:42.040 --> 0:11:46.000 it came out, Just to keep clarifying, that's the year 0:11:46.040 --> 0:11:54.520 that it checking in changes. I was eleven and I 0:11:54.559 --> 0:11:58.760 had a nextissential next you're having on them right now 0:12:01.120 --> 0:12:07.280 out a body experience. Were about to say, I was 0:12:07.360 --> 0:12:19.079 having an existential thank you, that's a girl crisis. Because 0:12:19.080 --> 0:12:21.480 at the end of the movie, the galaxy and it 0:12:21.600 --> 0:12:24.520 was on a Ryan's belt and then it's like zoom 0:12:24.559 --> 0:12:28.040 out and its whole funt and it's big aliens playing 0:12:28.080 --> 0:12:32.040 with a marble case full of little galaxies, and I 0:12:32.120 --> 0:12:37.840 was like, my life is so insignificant. And I didn't 0:12:37.840 --> 0:12:41.760 believe in God after that. So it didn't convince you 0:12:41.800 --> 0:12:45.160 aliens existed, but it did rob you of faith. Correct. 0:12:48.800 --> 0:12:50.720 I used to think that. Every time I saw marbles, 0:12:50.720 --> 0:12:56.400 I was like, oh, I have earth. I'm thought big. 0:12:59.440 --> 0:13:02.920 I think that is a very interesting male female profestive. Right, 0:13:04.720 --> 0:13:15.559 Like I don't exist, and it says like I should 0:13:15.559 --> 0:13:21.200 I do? In the recap, let's do the Men in Black. 0:13:21.640 --> 0:13:25.080 We opened on Tommy Lee Jones and his older white 0:13:25.120 --> 0:13:32.440 man partner, and then they're not and they're finding aliens 0:13:32.440 --> 0:13:36.120 because guess what aliens live among us? But they work 0:13:36.200 --> 0:13:41.439 for this entity called what is it? Sex? In section six? 0:13:41.600 --> 0:13:45.160 Section six. In the beginning, the border Patrol keeps going, 0:13:45.280 --> 0:13:48.560 there is no section six. You're struggling with talking to 0:13:53.480 --> 0:13:56.400 I think I think that's what it was. Yeah, right, 0:13:56.440 --> 0:14:00.720 they're the men in Black. The older one guy is like, 0:14:00.800 --> 0:14:03.560 I'm getting too old for this ship. And then uh 0:14:03.760 --> 0:14:08.040 so they need to recruit and train replacement. And meanwhile, 0:14:08.760 --> 0:14:12.040 Will Smith is an n y p D police officer. 0:14:12.920 --> 0:14:19.520 In plain clothes, like really stylish, like orange baggy windbreaker pants, 0:14:19.520 --> 0:14:23.680 like stolen from the Fresh Prince said, people are like 0:14:23.800 --> 0:14:29.200 the fifth bad Boy. It was like Diddy May's baby 0:14:29.560 --> 0:14:35.440 Will so four. So like if one of them got sick, 0:14:35.560 --> 0:14:44.560 you could just sub Yeah, he can understand, I'm to die. 0:14:46.360 --> 0:15:01.160 I'm sorry, sorry, that's anyway. So, so Will Smith is 0:15:01.360 --> 0:15:06.040 chasing a dude and he's also it's kind of hot. Yeah, 0:15:07.080 --> 0:15:10.120 but he's also an alien and his eyes blinked that way. Um, 0:15:10.400 --> 0:15:13.240 no guy running away not hot? Oh well, will smim 0:15:13.440 --> 0:15:16.600 hot hot. I was gonna get into an argument. I 0:15:16.680 --> 0:15:18.680 was like, are you serious? I thought you were talking 0:15:18.720 --> 0:15:23.320 about the alien. So they like pinpoint Will Smith is 0:15:23.360 --> 0:15:25.360 a potential, like oh maybe he could be a man 0:15:25.440 --> 0:15:32.320 in black. And then so then Tommy Leader was like, yeah, 0:15:32.320 --> 0:15:34.160 how about him, and they like recruit him in and 0:15:34.200 --> 0:15:35.920 then they train him in and he's like, oh wow, 0:15:36.000 --> 0:15:39.520 there's there's aliens. Okay, I'll just give up the life 0:15:39.600 --> 0:15:41.920 that I had before, which really wasn't much of one. 0:15:44.640 --> 0:15:47.080 He had nothing to lose, Yeah, you just had that 0:15:47.120 --> 0:15:52.840 orange jumpsuit. So then there's this bug who lands on 0:15:53.160 --> 0:15:56.360 planet Earth and he's caused all kinds of mayhem around 0:15:56.360 --> 0:16:01.400 New York City? Ever heard of it? And then we 0:16:01.440 --> 0:16:04.080 gotta get this bug. And meanwhile there's a galaxy on 0:16:04.160 --> 0:16:06.560 a little cat's collar and they're like, well, what what 0:16:06.680 --> 0:16:08.920 does Oriyan's belt? That doesn't make any sense. I'm doing 0:16:08.920 --> 0:16:12.720 an excellent job in this cat. You're welcome, And so 0:16:13.040 --> 0:16:16.200 they have to catch the bugs bugs after this galaxy 0:16:16.480 --> 0:16:20.960 isn't it is? Vincent dinafil the book? Yeah, the book 0:16:21.000 --> 0:16:24.920 takes Vincent not feel skin and where's it? Okay, okay, okay, 0:16:25.080 --> 0:16:29.640 so really quick, Vincent did not feel hot? Yeah, trying 0:16:29.640 --> 0:16:31.720 to make sure I was keeping up right. I used 0:16:31.760 --> 0:16:44.080 to love making that face, the face that I just 0:16:44.200 --> 0:16:52.000 realized it's a podcasting. I was a face the face 0:16:52.240 --> 0:16:54.880 I would not have guessed you could have done it. Amazing, 0:16:55.040 --> 0:16:59.280 Vincent Dina, you put in the time, wait till we 0:16:59.360 --> 0:17:08.240 do moment jacket? Who would you be in full metal jacket? 0:17:08.640 --> 0:17:16.359 That character or that? Yeah? I never anyway, So they 0:17:16.480 --> 0:17:24.000 get the bug in the end, Wait, there's a there's 0:17:24.040 --> 0:17:32.520 a lady at one point, You're right, right, So all 0:17:32.560 --> 0:17:35.920 these dead bodies are turning up that are actually alien 0:17:36.080 --> 0:17:39.399 dead bodies, and this coroner she's like working at the 0:17:39.440 --> 0:17:42.480 Morgen where are these alien dead bodies? And then a 0:17:42.600 --> 0:17:45.920 flashy thinger all the time, which is low key gas lighting. 0:17:46.400 --> 0:17:53.840 And she's cute, she's hot hot, uh and yeah, so 0:17:53.960 --> 0:17:59.840 she's a character at the end, and she's she's also 0:18:00.240 --> 0:18:06.600 horny at least pretends to be. It's confused. She points 0:18:06.640 --> 0:18:08.399 at her vagina at one point in the movie, and 0:18:08.480 --> 0:18:12.920 it's like just kidding. Yeah, we'll talk about that scene. 0:18:13.000 --> 0:18:16.879 It's a poorly written joke. It's it's unclear like did 0:18:17.000 --> 0:18:19.640 she mean it or did she just point her vagina 0:18:19.680 --> 0:18:23.280 by mistake. I find myself doing that all the time 0:18:24.119 --> 0:18:29.520 in professional situations, like, I'm so sorry that was in 0:18:29.680 --> 0:18:38.120 volunteer being a woman in the work. Yeah, I confirmed, 0:18:38.400 --> 0:18:41.239 I was very There's a scene in the beginning when 0:18:41.240 --> 0:18:43.880 you first meet her where Tommy Lee Jones and Will 0:18:43.920 --> 0:18:47.880 Smith they walk in and she's talking to just Will 0:18:47.920 --> 0:18:49.520 Smith and Tommy ly Jones looking at what are the 0:18:49.600 --> 0:18:52.680 bodies and she says to Will Smith, she says, you 0:18:52.760 --> 0:18:54.360 know what I like to do when it gets really 0:18:54.440 --> 0:18:57.440 late here, and then Tommy le Jones cuts in. But 0:18:57.680 --> 0:19:01.360 when I was a kid, I hid because I didn't understand, 0:19:01.560 --> 0:19:05.160 like Sacks. I thought she just like lit the body 0:19:05.280 --> 0:19:09.359 is on fire. I had no idea it was like 0:19:09.440 --> 0:19:13.119 a sexual man. I was so confused. I was like, 0:19:13.160 --> 0:19:16.840 why aren't they dressing that the rest? Now as an adult, 0:19:16.880 --> 0:19:20.880 I'm like, she's saying she fucks the that is she's 0:19:20.920 --> 0:19:26.399 saying that. I thought she was saying she does something 0:19:26.600 --> 0:19:29.760 unrelated to the bodies. But now since we've opened up that, 0:19:33.160 --> 0:19:36.600 what is she doing with those bodies is robbing them? 0:19:37.000 --> 0:19:41.480 Oh maybe she's maybe she's harvesting their organs. That's savvy. 0:19:41.600 --> 0:19:43.399 That would be a more interesting character than she is 0:19:49.440 --> 0:19:54.440 would have been in the market. I don't know. I 0:19:54.520 --> 0:19:57.720 thought like, maybe she They can't be saying she sucks 0:19:57.760 --> 0:20:01.479 the bodies so weird, there's no way. There's a lot 0:20:01.520 --> 0:20:04.320 of sexual innuendos in this movie that don't quite land 0:20:04.560 --> 0:20:06.680 like we're just like there's a little uncanny valley, like 0:20:07.440 --> 0:20:10.760 what you aren't like, what are they saying? Do they 0:20:10.840 --> 0:20:14.680 like each other? Like it's unclear? Is this a romantic plotline? 0:20:14.840 --> 0:20:18.480 Is well? What was like? And then she's still under 0:20:18.880 --> 0:20:22.560 value and she's not in the sequel either, right, Well, 0:20:22.560 --> 0:20:24.960 because they set up at the end because like Tommy 0:20:25.040 --> 0:20:27.480 Lee Jones is like, I wasn't training a partner, I 0:20:27.600 --> 0:20:31.000 was training a replacement. And then he retires, which is 0:20:31.040 --> 0:20:41.520 crazy because it's Will Smith's second day. Crazy. I think 0:20:41.560 --> 0:20:46.680 you got it. Yeah, So he retires and then Will 0:20:46.760 --> 0:20:50.240 Smith and Dr Weaver the coroner is like, I've been 0:20:50.280 --> 0:20:54.760 around aliens enough. One day's worth, that's all. And she 0:20:54.960 --> 0:20:56.920 ends up being his partner. But it's set up so 0:20:57.040 --> 0:20:59.040 that like, oh, she's going to be in the sequel, 0:20:59.040 --> 0:21:02.360 and it can't be called and Black anymore. Psych it's 0:21:02.440 --> 0:21:07.520 still two men and she's never heard from again. Yeah, 0:21:08.080 --> 0:21:11.480 he flashy. Think my theory is she turned forty and 0:21:11.560 --> 0:21:16.400 they're just like wow, because we all know how much 0:21:16.520 --> 0:21:20.960 people love casting women over forty. They don't. It does not, 0:21:21.520 --> 0:21:24.720 we don't do it. Let's get Tommy Lee Jones body double. 0:21:24.800 --> 0:21:27.040 Let's have him Tommy Lee Jones hot in this movie. 0:21:27.119 --> 0:21:31.400 I'm sorry, it's true. Is he hotter than Tony Shaloub's 0:21:31.400 --> 0:21:45.239 little head? Cannot get any hotter Tony little Yeah, shout out. Oh. 0:21:46.000 --> 0:21:49.320 So if we're saying what part in this movie would 0:21:49.320 --> 0:21:52.159 Alfred Molina have had, because I'm sure he was offered 0:21:52.280 --> 0:21:56.960 a part. He's a town um could he have done 0:21:57.040 --> 0:21:59.760 Schaloub's part, or could Chalou's part only have been done 0:21:59.800 --> 0:22:04.200 by schlu I wouldn't have recast Tony Shalou. Who could we? 0:22:04.480 --> 0:22:06.440 Who could be? You know? He could have been Tommy 0:22:06.520 --> 0:22:09.600 Lee Jones. He could have been Tommy Jones. Could have 0:22:09.640 --> 0:22:12.720 been Ripped Torn, could have been could have been It 0:22:12.720 --> 0:22:16.639 would have been a good set get out. I always 0:22:16.680 --> 0:22:18.879 confuse Ripped Horn who someone? I could go either way 0:22:18.920 --> 0:22:23.520 on with meat love with someone. I feel very strongly. 0:22:25.640 --> 0:22:28.639 Here's what Alfre William might have been doing instead. He 0:22:28.720 --> 0:22:32.719 could have been filming Bookie Nights. He could have been 0:22:32.760 --> 0:22:37.280 filming Anna Karenina. He's so he's so versatile. He could 0:22:37.280 --> 0:22:40.200 have been preparing for his role in Dudley do Right. 0:22:43.240 --> 0:22:46.359 The Brendan Fraser one that I think the Brendan Frasier. 0:22:47.160 --> 0:22:54.240 Is there another It is bred Fer Brendon Frasier. I 0:22:54.359 --> 0:23:04.000 think's gonna murder. I feel great. I do want to 0:23:04.040 --> 0:23:06.840 talk more about So there are two female characters and 0:23:06.920 --> 0:23:09.960 men in black, and just those two and no other 0:23:10.040 --> 0:23:14.399 in New York City. Yeah. In one of them is 0:23:14.680 --> 0:23:22.840 Vincent Dinafrio's wife. Her name is Beatrice. Beatrice. I'm just 0:23:22.960 --> 0:23:34.640 repeating yeah, Beatrice, and she has very minimal screen time, 0:23:34.720 --> 0:23:38.520 as does the other female character, doctor Laurel Weaver. I'd 0:23:38.560 --> 0:23:40.520 say between the two of them, they might have an 0:23:40.560 --> 0:23:44.000 added total of like twenty minutes of screen time. That 0:23:44.119 --> 0:23:49.359 feels generous. Yeah, there's really when they say men in black, 0:23:55.359 --> 0:23:57.960 something I wanted to point out about that movies with 0:23:58.119 --> 0:24:02.760 like men or boys are like yeah in the title 0:24:02.840 --> 0:24:07.480 are always action movies, superhero movies, exciting movies about people 0:24:07.600 --> 0:24:12.240 kicking ass. Examples, Men and Black, X Men, Spider Man, 0:24:13.720 --> 0:24:20.240 That Boys, No Country for Old Men, all the President's Men, 0:24:21.000 --> 0:24:26.480 a few good men, the nice guys. Nice. Yeah, they're 0:24:26.520 --> 0:24:29.600 like whoa what fun movies? And then movies with like 0:24:29.800 --> 0:24:33.840 women or girl and the title are like dramas and 0:24:34.000 --> 0:24:42.560 like Women, Little Women, twenty and Century Women, The Girl, 0:24:46.840 --> 0:24:50.960 Mean Girls. Oh yeah, just a really good point that 0:24:51.040 --> 0:25:01.560 I'm making, Girl Spice Girls, someone participates. Check out our 0:25:01.680 --> 0:25:09.040 Spice World episode of The Girls Girls. Yeah, reason movie. Yeah, 0:25:09.400 --> 0:25:12.320 generally they're more about like interpersonal relationships. I'm not saying 0:25:12.320 --> 0:25:14.320 that's a bad thing, but I'm just saying like there's 0:25:14.320 --> 0:25:18.240 a disparity between the two types of action versus like 0:25:18.400 --> 0:25:28.000 a fluffy or it's about women connecting hate it enalien already, right, women. 0:25:28.800 --> 0:25:32.280 So that's just something I wanted to share with you all, 0:25:33.000 --> 0:25:40.960 and you're welcome. I mean it's tricky because this is okay. 0:25:41.040 --> 0:25:45.040 So this is maybe the millionth time on this podcast 0:25:45.119 --> 0:25:48.280 that we have come up against a summer blockbuster movie 0:25:48.840 --> 0:25:52.600 that is pretty well loved. I still enjoy this movie. 0:25:52.640 --> 0:25:58.440 I think it's a fun block hole written wrong. Yeah, Galaxy, 0:25:58.880 --> 0:26:02.960 it's fun. A theme song is dope. But they all 0:26:03.000 --> 0:26:07.440 these movies have the one female character whose main thing 0:26:07.640 --> 0:26:09.680 is you know, even if she is like to the 0:26:09.920 --> 0:26:13.000 I guess this movie's credit, which I hesitates, but like, 0:26:13.720 --> 0:26:17.880 you know, she's at least has a job and she's 0:26:18.240 --> 0:26:22.200 a woman instead, she's a woman insteps. She appears to 0:26:22.320 --> 0:26:25.160 know how to do her job until Tommy Lee Jones 0:26:25.240 --> 0:26:29.840 keeps gaslighting her. That's upsetting, you mean by erasing her memory, Yeah, 0:26:30.440 --> 0:26:37.720 realizing with her thinking out for burger king. But but 0:26:38.600 --> 0:26:41.160 she's a character. She's not given a lot of screen time. 0:26:41.400 --> 0:26:44.000 But it's the problem we always come up against, which 0:26:44.040 --> 0:26:45.920 is like, there's no one for her to talk to you, 0:26:46.320 --> 0:26:48.560 There's no other female character, no one for her to 0:26:48.600 --> 0:26:51.400 talk to even being a scene with like it's just yeah, 0:26:51.840 --> 0:26:55.520 she's surrounded by dead people. She's yeah, they alive people 0:26:55.640 --> 0:27:07.760 that's not even alive alive. Well, she apparently works with 0:27:08.600 --> 0:27:15.000 David Cross, who was like the receptionist of the YEA, 0:27:15.520 --> 0:27:23.359 what are they talking about? I don't know. Yeah, someone's 0:27:24.920 --> 0:27:29.120 rule number one of the board. It's gotta be sucking 0:27:29.160 --> 0:27:35.200 these bodies, right, it's your first aid. Kid. When we 0:27:35.280 --> 0:27:38.359 see like all the recruits, whenever the recruits, because they're like, oh, 0:27:38.440 --> 0:27:41.520 these navy guys, these are like these military men. All 0:27:41.600 --> 0:27:44.000 the people that they're considering for the new men in 0:27:44.080 --> 0:27:48.000 Black job, all men. Not a woman even considered. You 0:27:48.160 --> 0:27:51.320 see the scene when we are first introduced to like 0:27:51.560 --> 0:27:55.840 the m IB headquarters, which basically still kind of looks 0:27:55.880 --> 0:28:01.720 like the goog and I'm we see the Google Him 0:28:01.800 --> 0:28:03.600 museum at the beginning, you're like, oh, that's cool, and 0:28:03.600 --> 0:28:04.920 then you see m I V or like is it 0:28:05.080 --> 0:28:10.000 the same? Is it back room? Anyways? It could be. 0:28:10.520 --> 0:28:13.560 There are a few women in that scene, but it's 0:28:13.640 --> 0:28:18.160 largely men. They're all the aliens. We see all men, 0:28:19.080 --> 0:28:22.160 no lady, except for like you see like a screen 0:28:22.280 --> 0:28:26.159 and Will Smith's teacher apart from that are apart from 0:28:26.200 --> 0:28:28.680 like people who don't have any lines or just like 0:28:28.760 --> 0:28:31.440 only sort of seen in the background. All the aliens 0:28:31.520 --> 0:28:35.440 with speaking roles go to men. Big problem in Hollywood. 0:28:35.600 --> 0:28:42.240 You know we're our female alien protagonists, right pretty five 0:28:43.920 --> 0:28:51.080 queer sexuality, aliens of color? Where are That's like avatar? 0:28:52.360 --> 0:29:02.720 Oh yeah, this is why we let the guest pass. 0:29:05.200 --> 0:29:09.600 There's I have I have something I'd like to address. Please, okay. 0:29:09.800 --> 0:29:14.320 There's another trope in mostly nineties Arrow movies. Something that 0:29:14.640 --> 0:29:17.560 terrified me as a child and I still find horrible 0:29:18.080 --> 0:29:20.960 is there's a little pug in this movie, a little 0:29:21.000 --> 0:29:25.480 pug informant. They make his mouth move like a person, 0:29:26.680 --> 0:29:33.360 so that it's like he's a little person. I don't okay, 0:29:33.520 --> 0:29:36.480 I find it scary. There's movies words because you know, 0:29:36.640 --> 0:29:39.800 like fast forward five years it's c G I this 0:29:40.040 --> 0:29:46.480 is some sort of scary practical effect. It looks real. 0:29:51.320 --> 0:29:53.640 You think they're like hooked up like wires to the 0:29:53.720 --> 0:30:06.320 dog dog Peanut Butter likes why it's all about she 0:30:06.920 --> 0:30:14.960 hated freak. I don't like an animals time like they're people. 0:30:15.000 --> 0:30:20.600 They're not people. There there's that movie Cats and Dogs. 0:30:20.800 --> 0:30:23.080 That one is the worst because it's all just like 0:30:23.640 --> 0:30:26.200 Nathan Lamb's voice coming out of a cat and you're 0:30:26.240 --> 0:30:28.440 just like, no, like it's just scary. It's not. It 0:30:28.480 --> 0:30:37.960 should be a cartoon. Okay. Also, male dog, there we go. 0:30:38.040 --> 0:30:41.920 It's yeah again, where are all the female dogs with 0:30:41.960 --> 0:30:48.400 speaking roles in Hollywood? That dog is so like it. 0:30:48.600 --> 0:30:55.480 It's what about like babe sweary? No scary, that's nice? Scary? Yeah. 0:30:55.560 --> 0:30:59.000 The mouth, well, because they're not like really blinking and 0:30:59.080 --> 0:31:02.080 you're just like there and their eyes are glazed over 0:31:02.080 --> 0:31:04.680 because they're kind of like edited in post production. I 0:31:04.720 --> 0:31:07.000 would imagine. I think about it a lot, but there 0:31:08.200 --> 0:31:10.360 they're not blinking in their eyes or they kind of 0:31:10.440 --> 0:31:12.240 have like do you ever? Okay, here's something I find 0:31:12.280 --> 0:31:14.920 scary in real life is when you meet someone they're like, 0:31:14.960 --> 0:31:17.520 meet my dog, and you're like that dog has people eyes? Yeah? 0:31:18.640 --> 0:31:20.320 Why the dog got the person's eyes and ready to 0:31:20.360 --> 0:31:23.200 get them? Yeah, exactly. I think it's like one of 0:31:23.440 --> 0:31:25.240 That's why I believe in aliens. I think it's like 0:31:25.320 --> 0:31:28.840 an Edgar situation when they take a dog's body and 0:31:28.960 --> 0:31:31.360 it's like it's like a vinc and doff Field. There's dog, 0:31:31.800 --> 0:31:40.360