1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or 3 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:24,240 Speaker 1: learn the stuff they don't want you to know. Hello, 4 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: and welcome back to the show. My name is Matt, 5 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: my name isn't all they call him? And Ben, you 6 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: are you? And that makes this stuff they don't want 7 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: you to know. The stuff we're exploring in this episode 8 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: is near and dear to us, both figuratively and physically. 9 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 1: We're talking about a recent event in our own fair 10 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 1: metropolis of Atlanta wherein it looked as if the city 11 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,559 Speaker 1: was falling apart, and to a degree, to a very 12 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 1: small degree, that was true, absolutely, And we covered this 13 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: just slightly. We touched it in our New York Live 14 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 1: episode just to give some context with that material, but 15 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: we're really going to get into depth into it today. 16 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: Oh that's right. So first, let's talk about infrastructure. Infrastructure 17 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 1: is one of those, um one of those chronic problems 18 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 1: that the US has because it's not, you know, particularly 19 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 1: juicy news item. It's kind of dry. People aren't really 20 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: having passionate arguments pre flint people aren't really having passionate 21 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: arguments that make it into the national zeitgeist regarding you know, water, 22 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: cleanliness and stuff. So if we define infrastructure in the 23 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 1: most general terms, this describes all of the physical and 24 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:44,479 Speaker 1: social structures or facilities needed to make not just a city, 25 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: but any society or a business run. So we're not 26 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: just talking about roads or power supply grids, or sewage 27 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: or water treatment and so on. We're also talking about 28 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: the groups of professionals that create, maintain, and ideally expand 29 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 1: these structures to fit the needs of growing systems or communities. 30 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 1: And that last part is pretty important, and these two 31 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 1: categories cannot exist without the other. If you've got a 32 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: bunch of top notch professionals that are like really good 33 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 1: at what they do, but they don't have anything to 34 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 1: work on, that's pointless. If you have really great roads 35 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:21,519 Speaker 1: and facilities but no professionals to house them and to 36 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 1: run them, then what are you doing? Right? Yeah, they're 37 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: They're reliant on each other. And it's no secret that 38 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: the US infrastructure is in dire straits, not not The 39 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 1: band is that a band? Yeah? I do the what 40 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:38,839 Speaker 1: is it? Money for Nothing? Kiss It Kicks? I thought 41 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: it was checks like che mix. I always thought it 42 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: was chicks. For free, your money for nothing, and you're 43 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:46,799 Speaker 1: I like the idea of it being a checks mix. 44 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 1: So I just want to live in a society where 45 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 1: our only currency is chex mix. I think that could happen. 46 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: I feel like we've earned that. Like people, I like 47 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: the little mini rye breads and checks mix. I think 48 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: those are the best. They sell those by themselves. They 49 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:07,639 Speaker 1: might you're welcome checks. So the infrastructures in dire straits, right, Yes, 50 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:12,079 Speaker 1: So this little outfit called the American Society of Civil 51 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: Engineers or ask SEU. Their most recent infrastructure report card 52 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 1: that they put out UM told a pretty depressing story 53 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: about the state of affairs. According to their analyzes, there 54 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 1: has not been a significant amount of improvement in the 55 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: United States of America's transportation, water, energy, education, or waste 56 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: management programs since the last report card was released in UM. 57 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: And overall, they gave the good old USA a D plus. 58 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 1: I guess that's better than a D minus or just 59 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: a hard d uh. And this all breaks down get 60 00:03:54,400 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: it actually wrote in the yikes into several uh different categories, 61 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: which include you got your railways, your bridges, your ports, um, 62 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 1: and then you've got solid waste which was received a 63 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 1: C and the bridges and ports both received c pluses respectively. 64 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 1: Then we have energy, hazardous, waste, parks and wreck favorite 65 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: show of mine, uh, schools wastewater, and each of those 66 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 1: received another D plus. So there was also rating for aviation, dams, 67 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: drinking water inland, waterways, levees, and roads, all of which 68 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 1: received a D. And of course, no surprise here, public transit, uh, 69 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 1: the the eternal runt of the litter got a D minus. Overall, 70 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 1: that's a D plus score and overall that's a bad, bad, 71 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 1: bad bad thing. Yeah, this is really bad, especially since 72 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 1: it just came out this year and the last time 73 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 1: that report was issued was in and you may have 74 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:01,600 Speaker 1: seen if you watch it the John Oliver episode on 75 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: infrastructure last week tonight. Yeah yeah, last week tonight, and 76 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 1: he focused on that report card, and uh, you'd think 77 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 1: you'd think there'd be a little improvement. Again, it's not. 78 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: You know, it's not as exciting because people would like 79 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 1: like their news stories to be so. Unfortunately, Atlanta is 80 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 1: no exception to this trend towards stagnation and decrepitude. This 81 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: came to a very public and very dangerous head earlier 82 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 1: this year. And it concerns the roads. So there are 83 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 1: five interstates that are important to this story that we're 84 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:40,679 Speaker 1: going to talk about. There's I seventy five and eighty five, 85 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: which are closely linked when you're inside the like inside 86 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 1: the city itself, I twenty and I two eighty five. 87 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 1: Twenty runs east to west, so it just goes horizontally 88 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 1: across the city if you're looking at it from above. 89 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: Then you've got seventy and eighty five, which run north 90 00:05:56,800 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: to south, cut it vertically again from a of and 91 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 1: I eighty five in particular connects the Atlanta metropolitan area 92 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 1: with Montgomery, Alabama. You've got Charlotte, North Carolina, and if 93 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: you go all the way up on that interstate, you 94 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 1: can almost get to Richmond, Virginia. Um let's see then. Oh, 95 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:18,679 Speaker 1: also I eighty five carries and estimated four hundred thousand 96 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 1: vehicles per day. That's across the entire highway. And then 97 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 1: the last one is two eighty five, which is it's 98 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: not a circle, but for this let's say it's a 99 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:31,359 Speaker 1: circle uh loop that goes around the city as a bypass. 100 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 1: So if you're driving south heading to almost Richmond, Virginia, 101 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: I hope there's a town named Wilmos Richard when when 102 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: you go through the city, if you want to avoid 103 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 1: city traffic, you can hop on two eighty five and 104 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: drive around the town. But eight five twenty. They all 105 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 1: have their problems. None of them are particularly amazing. But 106 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: every road is gonna have issues, especially this much traffic. 107 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: Every road has its thorn. There we go, and I 108 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: think that was worth it, or a giant hole in 109 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: the middle of it. Yeah, yeah, okay. Thorn is an 110 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: acronym that somehow implies pothole. Alright, Nolan, I had a 111 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: meeting about it. So so what happened in particular with 112 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: these with these inner states, Well, there were a series 113 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: of incidents of unfortunate events, a series of unfortunate events, 114 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 1: the first of which when as follows, on Thursday March 115 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 1: of this year, UM an area underneath an overpass bridge 116 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 1: of Interstate five UM near the Georgia Department of Transportations 117 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 1: armor Yard, which is very close where eighty five cross 118 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 1: over Piedmont Road to any in Lanterns. A t aliens 119 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 1: in the in the area UM caused a section of 120 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: the northbound lanes to completely collapse, and there was a 121 00:07:56,640 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: catastrophic amount of damage to the adjacent southbound lanes. This 122 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: was an honest to god conflagration. In total, there ten 123 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 1: lanes of raised highway that were affected, and this is 124 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: three feet of highway in either direction. Even the president, 125 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 1: the current president, said something about it. It was a 126 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: huge deal at the time. You may remember this from 127 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: your news if you're in the US, and without doing 128 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: a Trump voice, we can just read the quote. You 129 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:35,199 Speaker 1: just imagine any president saying this from the Roosevelt Room. 130 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 1: That was something the whole world was watching that one 131 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 1: our brave firefighters battled forty ft flames, which was incredible. 132 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 1: What was the reason for those flames? It was something 133 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 1: underneath that was very combustible. Those flames were amazing. They 134 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: were amazing. The President is right. I personally drove past 135 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 1: them on my commute home, as we mentioned before, and uh, 136 00:08:58,080 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: I got a video of it, and I think we'll 137 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 1: you have it on Facebook. I might post it on 138 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:05,319 Speaker 1: our YouTube just for funzies. Yeah, who knows, do so? 139 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: Uh that that would be good. If you haven't seen 140 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 1: that yet on our social media, you can check it out. 141 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 1: That's not the only thing that happened on Monday of 142 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: April seventeenth, we had another incident. I'm surprised he called 143 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 1: the flames amazing and not tremendous. Amazing seems like the 144 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: wrong choice of words. Amazing has implies there were good. Yeah, 145 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 1: it's up such a positive connotation. Tremendous would at least 146 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:30,199 Speaker 1: just mean they were large and in charge. Yeah, there 147 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 1: was another little little doozy of an incident that took 148 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:36,600 Speaker 1: place on the seventeenth, which was Monday. UM, a section 149 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 1: of my twenty's the road that I've frequent pretty often 150 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 1: going between here and my hometown of Augusta, Georgia, UM 151 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: basically buckled from underneath because I believe a gas leak 152 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:52,959 Speaker 1: took place. We'll get to that a second, but yeah, 153 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: and the AP described it as such. Quote the pavement 154 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:58,959 Speaker 1: rose to nearly the height of a full grown man 155 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 1: and split into several pieces. The official report was that 156 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 1: an underground gas leak caused the buckling UM, but a 157 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:10,959 Speaker 1: spokeswoman for the local one of the local gas companies, 158 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 1: Atlantic Gaslight, said while a contractor for the utility was 159 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: working in the area and no natural gas was released, 160 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: so would you say they're gas lighting us? And I mean, 161 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 1: you know what, how does that even happen, Like I 162 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: can understand maybe if there was a pressurized a high 163 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:31,199 Speaker 1: high pressure release of material that could cause it. It 164 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: must it must be because it could also be something 165 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 1: small in in the gas um mix or in the 166 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 1: density of the gas that's exploiting an already shoddy UH 167 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 1: pipe system, or something you need to repair because it's 168 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: a big it's a big hill and apparently popped up 169 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 1: fast enough that a motorcyclist was injured on like got 170 00:10:55,520 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 1: evil kneviled unintentionally, a non consensual kinnevil. And this we 171 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 1: have a statement from the Georgia Department of Transportation, and 172 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 1: they went out of their way to say, like, this 173 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 1: is not normal. They said, this is not an occurrence 174 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 1: that happens every day. This is an extenuating circumstance of 175 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 1: some things that happened when some work was being done. 176 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: So this does not indicate that we have a widespread 177 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 1: crumbling infrastructure. Man, that sentence structure is so strange to me. 178 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:26,559 Speaker 1: Some things that happened while some work was being done. 179 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: That's that's like a shady answer I would give when 180 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 1: I don't want to talk about something. Are you saying 181 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:37,199 Speaker 1: you don't trust the official report I'm saying, I'm saying 182 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 1: that a lot of people don't uh, and this this 183 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: is these are the two biggest incidents. But also earlier 184 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 1: in the same day, there was a huge chemical spill downtown. 185 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 1: So yeah, this is this just really fast to jump 186 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 1: on this. Okay, So we talked about eight five, and 187 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 1: so if you're going through the city, if you're trucker, 188 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:02,839 Speaker 1: let's say you've got a lot of things, let's say 189 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 1: hazardous chemicals loaded up on your your rig. Uh, generally 190 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:10,199 Speaker 1: it is illegal for you to go directly through this 191 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: city using that depending on the cargo. Yeah, unless well 192 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:18,439 Speaker 1: it's usually it's for all trucks unless you have business 193 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 1: business within the loop. Like, if you have business inside 194 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 1: the loop, you can go through. If not, you have 195 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 1: to use to eight five. Um. And apparently this truck 196 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 1: did not have business and was doing he was not 197 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 1: on the correct highway. Yeah, and he met one of 198 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 1: our signature insane drivers. Yeah. Yeah, an SUV driver that 199 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 1: stopped in the middle of the highway. And then just 200 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 1: it looks if you you can find video of this crash, 201 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 1: it looks as though this driver is trying to do 202 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:47,719 Speaker 1: a U turn on a one Way Highway, but then 203 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: just kind of gives up halfway through. There's no there's 204 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:54,080 Speaker 1: no follow through. I mean, it's a it's a bizarre 205 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 1: clip because the person, like you say, sort of swings 206 00:12:57,400 --> 00:12:59,839 Speaker 1: wide as though they're going to flip it around, but 207 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 1: then just kind of chills sideways and it's like broadsided 208 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 1: by this truck that then jack knives and flips over, spilling. 209 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 1: It's uh, it's a hazardous payload. Yeah, it's a very 210 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 1: strange thing. And this is a town with our numerous 211 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 1: accidents that happen every day, but these three events stuck out, 212 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 1: both for their proximity, the extreme nature of the incidents, 213 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:34,319 Speaker 1: and of course because jet fuel and steel beam jokes aside, 214 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:39,439 Speaker 1: how does a concrete bridge burn? We'll get into the 215 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 1: official story after a word from our sponsors. We're back 216 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 1: yes to further discuss the carnage facing off fair Town. 217 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 1: We didn't even mention there was that same weak ish 218 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 1: Around the same time, they was a big fire on 219 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:05,679 Speaker 1: Beauford Highway, which is our um wonderful stretch of delicious 220 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 1: food choices the world. It's fantastic, and that the fire 221 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 1: was actually really close to my house. That's right. And 222 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 1: it was also which is also pretty close to where 223 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: the main original issue was the fire to the bridge. 224 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 1: The fire to the bridge. The point being is maybe 225 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 1: you're acting yourself, listeners, what is the point being a gentlemen? 226 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 1: What is the point of being? Well, that's that's different. 227 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: But it's like, Okay, you live in a city, things 228 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: like this happen. Yeah, and you might be asking yourself though, 229 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 1: what what's the point of all this talk? And you know, 230 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 1: you're in a city. Cities burn, things happen, infrastructure breaks down. 231 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 1: This is true, but it's when we start getting into 232 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 1: the official explanation of this business things start to feel 233 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 1: a little murkier. Yeah, and we also have memories of Sherman, 234 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 1: So you know, we're all a little nervous about fire. 235 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 1: The way I was going to say it is, this 236 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 1: is not the first time a land has had a fire. Um. 237 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 1: So this fire, this modern fire, broke out on a 238 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 1: Thursday afternoon and like the hinter lands of rush hour 239 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 1: towards the end. And it was in an area, this 240 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: under a bridge where all sorts of shady stuff happens, 241 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 1: in an area that was used to store construction materials 242 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 1: and equipment, and the flames and the smoke rose higher 243 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: and higher in the air, and authorities at the time 244 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 1: said they're not sure how it started. The Georgia Department 245 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: of Transportation or you know, like this guy's g DOT, 246 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 1: which I think is cool. It sounds like an MC name. 247 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 1: They had been storing these coils of this plastic conduit 248 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: that's used in fiber optic networks beneath the bridge, but 249 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 1: they insisted they were not flammable. This stuff is specifically 250 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: known as HDPE, an acronym meaning high density polyethylene um. 251 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 1: Their pipes they feel more like cables, you know, They're 252 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 1: not the kind of lead pipe you're thinking of. Uh. 253 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 1: The conduits are used in traffic management cabling fiber optic 254 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 1: wire networks. So the fire rises right, all all Bain style, 255 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 1: and the police and the firefighters cut off traffic officially. 256 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: And despite the fact that is during rush hour, the 257 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 1: heavily trafficked interstate, not only are there no fatalities, but 258 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 1: there are no injuries. The entire city walks off without 259 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 1: a scratch. Yeah, except for the bridge itself. And you 260 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 1: can see video of commuters driving through heavy black smoke 261 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 1: where the visibility is zero. But they were just going 262 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: for it and somehow, like Ben said, yeah, still nobody 263 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: got hurt. It's it seems so improbable, but it's also great, right, Yeah. 264 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: So that's that's the first thing, the complete lack of fatality, 265 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 1: injury or accident that set people's weird weird ometer off, 266 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 1: you know, that tip the needle a little. The next day, 267 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:12,360 Speaker 1: three people were arrested, Basil lb Sophia Brower, and Barry Thomas. 268 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:17,119 Speaker 1: The Deputy insurance commissioner, a guy named Jay Florence said 269 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 1: Basil Lby faced the charge of criminal damage to property, 270 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:25,680 Speaker 1: while Uh, Sophia and Barry were charged with criminal trespassing. 271 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: They think that these three people were together under the 272 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 1: bridge when the fire started, and the lab set the fire. 273 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 1: And he didn't say why this guy would start the fire? Really, 274 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: um say how in the beginning that they have a theory. 275 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: But there's one part of this is a little bit 276 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:48,680 Speaker 1: of Gallas humor. One part of the original police investigation 277 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:52,199 Speaker 1: said that the three people who are as far as 278 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 1: we know, homeless, met to discuss the consumption and smoking 279 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 1: of crack, which I love because it sounds like they're 280 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 1: holding a meeting like to make plans to smoke crack later. Yeah, allegedly, 281 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 1: but you know, some of some of the story like 282 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 1: is evolving because the Sophia and Barry are a couple 283 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:15,879 Speaker 1: and they were questioned for some like seven hours by 284 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 1: by the authorities. I don't know exactly which authorities, but 285 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 1: they were a question for like seven hours, and then 286 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 1: those authorities realized that these two were actually witnesses, probably 287 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: to this guy. But the whole thing, like, it's like, 288 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen, thank you for coming to meet me today. 289 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:36,679 Speaker 1: We'd like to thank Sophia for the lovely box of donuts, 290 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:40,400 Speaker 1: and uh, we have a motion on the floor from 291 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:43,400 Speaker 1: the previous meeting to discuss the consumption of crack cocaine. 292 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:46,439 Speaker 1: It just sounds very not to be heartless, but it 293 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:48,919 Speaker 1: does sound. It's it's very weird way to describe it. 294 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 1: So the current guess is that lab burned down a 295 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 1: piece of an inner state by putting a chair in 296 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 1: a shopping cart and setting the chair on fire and 297 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 1: then pushing a sofa onto it or something, which was 298 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 1: so weird. Yeah, that's that's the official explanation. Again, there's 299 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:14,640 Speaker 1: a lot of damage. Why don't people believe this story? 300 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 1: Here's where it gets crazy. There are plenty of problems 301 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 1: with the official narrative. So of course there's the angle 302 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 1: of you know, he set this fire in a shopping 303 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 1: car with a chair, But then there are many folks 304 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 1: around that believe that it was just the consumption of 305 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 1: the drugs that caused the fire. And of course crack 306 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:37,919 Speaker 1: is a dangerous drug to you physically, but smoking it 307 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 1: certainly doesn't produce enough heat to burn a bridge, or 308 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 1: really even cause a sustained amount of heat such that 309 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 1: it might catch flammable materials on fire. It seems like 310 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 1: it has to be deliberate, yeah, because you don't think 311 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 1: about your people using a lighter of some sort. And 312 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 1: once the drug is consumed, I guess even if somebody 313 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 1: through the paraphernalia or the pipe somewhere, the odds of 314 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 1: it combusting something else so pretty low. So just in 315 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 1: fact about the bridge, because we talked already about eight 316 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 1: five itself, the bridge is built in eighty four. They 317 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 1: rebuilt it nine so what they're you know, they also 318 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 1: are regularly inspecting it and in theory there repairing it 319 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:30,360 Speaker 1: when needs to be. But here's what's important. The road surface, 320 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:33,919 Speaker 1: what we would call the deck of the bridge is 321 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 1: eight point five inches thick reinforced concrete, and they've had, 322 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 1: like I think now, they're about two fifty thousand vehicles 323 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: driving on it per day. In two if the bridge 324 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 1: is still around, it will be almost three thousand and 325 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 1: the other Some of the other problems with the official 326 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 1: story are that people seem incredulous about it, because it's 327 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 1: strange to think that three of the most vulnerable people 328 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 1: in our society would be quickly and publicly, you know, 329 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,880 Speaker 1: condemned as the people behind it. And I'm not saying 330 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 1: these folks are saints, but I am saying there's a 331 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 1: thing that happens sometimes in criminal investigations, and this this 332 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 1: happened with serial killers too, like Henry Lee, Lucas Uh 333 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 1: and Oddest Tool. I believe we're thought to have killed, 334 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 1: you know, fifty something people because it turns out that 335 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: the authorities were taking unsolved homicides and penning them on 336 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 1: these guys for favors. And it's completely possible that if 337 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:50,160 Speaker 1: there's someone who has a drug addiction, someone who's very vulnerable, 338 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 1: doesn't have assets for like a lawyer or family to 339 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:57,360 Speaker 1: help them out, it's very possible that the authorities would say, hey, 340 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 1: do you want to uh make this easy? You're on yourself. 341 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 1: We'll give you a better a better deal. We'll put 342 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 1: you up in a nicer place. It's it's possible. The 343 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 1: whole idea of closing the case early has I've heard 344 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:18,919 Speaker 1: that spoken allowed many times, just from people I speak 345 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,679 Speaker 1: with around the office and near my house. And this 346 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:26,360 Speaker 1: leads us to theories that have spread in the wake 347 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 1: of it. I don't know what did you guys read 348 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 1: any ubers lifts? Shortly after this seccurred, Yeah, I did 349 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 1: actually UM. On the way to the airport going to 350 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:37,920 Speaker 1: New York for the live show that we did, my 351 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 1: uber driver had some pretty interesting things to say about 352 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 1: the motivation behind this. He felt as though this gentleman 353 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 1: was being scapegoaded and that it would require a whole 354 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 1: lot more firepower shall we say, to bring down this 355 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 1: uh infrastructure, than than what one man, even with a 356 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,160 Speaker 1: dumpster fire and shall we call it, could have could 357 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:07,159 Speaker 1: have provided. UM. And his theory was that, you know, 358 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:11,919 Speaker 1: in in Atlanta, we have a public transit system in quotes, 359 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 1: it's not very good. It doesn't take you very far. Uh, 360 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 1: it's a little bit outdated and We've been hearing for 361 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 1: years that they were going to invest a little more 362 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 1: money into it. Maybe um make the routes go a 363 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 1: little farther. They can make a little more sense to 364 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 1: use on a regular basis. So I think Writer's Ship 365 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 1: for call it Marta is down. And the idea is 366 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 1: if you, if you, if you're the government and you 367 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 1: want to increase riders ship and cut down on traffic, 368 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:42,679 Speaker 1: maybe you just blow up a main artery in and 369 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 1: out of your own city. That was his theory. Anyway, 370 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 1: it's such a casual superavility. I love it. I love it. 371 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 1: It's like I want to be a Bond villain, but 372 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:56,640 Speaker 1: I don't want to do like a whole world thing. 373 00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,439 Speaker 1: So just part of the interstate. Let's see how it 374 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 1: goes on. I had it just really quick. I had 375 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,119 Speaker 1: an uber driver who thought it was somehow connected to 376 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,880 Speaker 1: the new Brave Stadium that's up seventy five, the other 377 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:12,880 Speaker 1: artery that splits off right there, and you know, let's 378 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 1: not let's not forget that. Right after you get past 379 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 1: where this fire was started. If you're going north, you 380 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:23,920 Speaker 1: get to Buckhead, which is like the hoity toity banker 381 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: area of the you know, the very expensive area of Atlanta. 382 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,399 Speaker 1: Uh And it's also where if you keep going up 383 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 1: that way, you'll you'll get to some of the nicer neighborhoods, 384 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 1: the suburban areas, you know. I don't know. They felt 385 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:44,639 Speaker 1: like somehow this was punishing those people. Okay, that's strange. 386 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,679 Speaker 1: So quick facts about MARTA. MARTA is one of the 387 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 1: only public transit systems that does not receive federal funding, 388 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 1: and the expansion of MARTA has been stymied by tensions 389 00:24:56,200 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 1: between county surrounding Atlanta too, So they're frankly, for a 390 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:09,360 Speaker 1: time there there was racism that prevented the expansion of 391 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 1: this system to other places. But then also there's the 392 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 1: question of who's going to pay for it, right, and 393 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 1: this means that well, there's no way around it, guys. 394 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 1: Wridership from MARTA did increase dramatically, so most immediately, a 395 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 1: most immediate and sustained until this day. Right now, you 396 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 1: can't park in a lot of these I was about 397 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 1: to say, my roommate Frank takes MARTA every day because 398 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 1: he works downtown, UH and that is one of the 399 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 1: few places you can get to down where the courthouse 400 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 1: and a lot of the government buildings are, and you 401 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,400 Speaker 1: can also get to a little town called Decatur where 402 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,919 Speaker 1: he also works. He does real estate title work, so 403 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 1: he's either indicator or downtown. And he used to drive 404 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 1: every day to the Marta station and park and then 405 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,439 Speaker 1: take the train, but now it's impost stable to get 406 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:02,399 Speaker 1: a parking spot, so he just like walks, you know, 407 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:04,479 Speaker 1: to two and a half miles every single day now 408 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 1: because it's just like there's no way to park unless 409 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 1: you get there like at seven in the morning. Yeah, 410 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,679 Speaker 1: I remember him telling me about that there's there's this 411 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 1: other thing, this idea that focusing on the homeless is 412 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 1: a diversion of scapegoer, as you said, and that the 413 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 1: Georgia Department of Transportation g DOT should shoulder the blame 414 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 1: for storying these materials. But of course they insist that 415 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: these were not combustible. And then we see that different 416 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 1: different authorities or officials are saying different things about the fire, 417 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 1: like that you have a fire chief saying that this 418 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 1: material certainly contributed to the high temperatures that were needed 419 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 1: to collapse the bridge. But then of course the people 420 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 1: at Georgia Department of Transportation are saying no, no, no, no no, no, 421 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 1: not flammable, and the fire chief is apparently not accustomed 422 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 1: to talking about fire and how fireworks. I'm just saying, uh, 423 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:03,919 Speaker 1: these these are the main alternative explanations proliferating through the city. 424 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,919 Speaker 1: But each has this problem and its own set of 425 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,879 Speaker 1: problems rather and there isn't at this point any proof 426 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 1: of a complicated conspiratorial cover up, although I do have 427 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,160 Speaker 1: I do have one. O can I tell you guys 428 00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 1: about it after an ad break? So there is even 429 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,639 Speaker 1: this is a micro cosmic example right on a on 430 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 1: a micro level. Uh, this event in Atlanta is terrible, 431 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:47,640 Speaker 1: but it's it's great that no one got injured somehow, 432 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 1: you know, even though that's pretty curious, it's great. But 433 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 1: there is a larger conspiracy afoot. And just like infrastructure, 434 00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 1: it's not necessarily a sexy thing or a captivating thing, 435 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,159 Speaker 1: but it is real and it is important, and it 436 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 1: is this state, federal and local governments and politicians continue 437 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:17,360 Speaker 1: to ignore burgeoning infrastructure problems. These people, in a very 438 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:21,199 Speaker 1: real way, are conspiring to make these things problems for 439 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 1: future generations. So I like bridges. I like driving on bridges, 440 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:31,160 Speaker 1: says somebody, But I hate paying taxes. Why shouldn't pay 441 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 1: taxes for somebody else's bridge and to save a couple 442 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 1: of bucks. Too often what happens is that this money 443 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 1: just disappears or gets used for something else, or is 444 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 1: seen as wasteful spending by you know, various various communities. 445 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 1: But the problem is that's calling an investment a waste 446 00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 1: of money. And I don't know if that's fair to say. 447 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 1: But we do know without specific action that there will 448 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 1: be a that without specific steps, this problem will worsen 449 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 1: and continue to worsen. There are people out there in 450 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 1: the US doing great work out there every day repairing roads. 451 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 1: There's some other weird, uh secret society of people in 452 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 1: Atlanta who go around and just put metal plates willy 453 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 1: nilly on the asphalt. I hope there's city employees, but 454 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 1: it might be like a toyin be tile thing. I 455 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 1: don't know. If you could talk to them and ask 456 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 1: him to at least add at least one more inch 457 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 1: to the height of those that would be really great. 458 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 1: So we we know people are working on this, but 459 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 1: it's something that has to be continually addressed, and we're 460 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 1: we'd like to conclude this stuff with some of the 461 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 1: statements regarding the future of of the interstate here well. 462 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,640 Speaker 1: As of May first, the g COOT has said that 463 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 1: it's expecting to open on MA that's just before a 464 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 1: Memorial Day on the n they're hoping for this. That 465 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 1: would put the project three weeks ahead of its official schedule, 466 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 1: which is honestly surprising to me after seeing what happened 467 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 1: to the highway, I thought it would take a lot 468 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 1: longer than that. So kudos to everybody has been working 469 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 1: on it, and even two people who believe there is 470 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 1: a conspiracy at play. Even that is suspicious, you know, 471 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 1: like there were also earlier reports that there have been 472 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:38,239 Speaker 1: a terrorist attack that was covered up. That one, by 473 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 1: the way, we don't think that would work, ladies and gentlemen, 474 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 1: because I can't remember who brought this up. But the 475 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 1: thing with terrorist attacks when those things occur, is that 476 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 1: the people who have done it want everyone to know 477 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 1: they did it. They want the credit. So that's that's 478 00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 1: probably not in play here. There's a large the thing 479 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 1: that will hopefully be good news. The current administration is 480 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 1: has been talking for some time about passing a large 481 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 1: infrastructure bill. They have not at the time of recording, 482 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 1: to our knowledge, past it because one of the big 483 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 1: things that there trying to figure out is how to 484 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 1: pay for it. Would it be a gas tax? When 485 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,720 Speaker 1: they just raise the price of gas? So this the 486 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 1: situation might change, and and surveys find Survey says that 487 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 1: over two thirds of Americans support spending more on roads, bridges, 488 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 1: and transit, but it's very half and half when it 489 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 1: comes to how to pay for it. You know, when 490 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 1: the bill comes due and we'd like to hear from you, 491 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 1: what are the roads and bridges and water treatment plants 492 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 1: like in your neck of the woods. Do we do 493 00:31:56,600 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 1: an episode on Flint, Michigan. We did? We did, so 494 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 1: this I think is the same in roughly the same category, 495 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 1: except without I don't know, do you do you guys 496 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 1: think this is an accident or there's something more play? 497 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 1: Is Martha really a secret super villain? Okay, so just 498 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 1: a couple of things I I wish and I don't 499 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,960 Speaker 1: wish that were true, but I can imagine that being true. 500 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 1: I just see like a table with a big M 501 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 1: and it's awkward, but they all have to sit around 502 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 1: the ms orange and blue. There's Hydra and then there's Marta. Yeah, 503 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 1: just just from experience, it, experiencing the fire very close 504 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 1: to it and and seeing it from far away early 505 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 1: on when it was starting. I cannot I mean, I can't. 506 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 1: I can't say for certain, but it definitely seemed like 507 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 1: a small fire that got out of hand from what 508 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 1: I observed coming from our offices, driving in the direction 509 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 1: of it, where you can see a little bit of 510 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 1: black smoke, and then to driving right past it where 511 00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 1: I could feel the obvious you know, past wi be 512 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 1: thousands of degrees because I was very far away and 513 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 1: it singed the hair on my arm. Um, I don't know. 514 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 1: I mean, so you think it's accident. I think in 515 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 1: my head it's not an accident. And I'm not saying 516 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 1: it's an accident. I'm saying it was a small fire 517 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 1: that got out of hand. I see. So maybe they 518 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 1: were just making a fire that like to hang out around. 519 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 1: Maybe that maybe the dude was committing an act of arson, 520 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,959 Speaker 1: or someone was, or you know, I can't discount any 521 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 1: of that. All I can say is that people are 522 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 1: questioning whether or not that fire could you know, melt 523 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 1: the beams. Um, I'm pretty sure that it can, because 524 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 1: it wasn't actually melting the concrete and the steel and everything. 525 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 1: It was melting. The connector between the two. I guess 526 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,600 Speaker 1: you can think of his giant plates, you know, the sections, 527 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 1: the the parts that connect them up. That's what was melting. 528 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 1: So what about you know, what do you think? You know, 529 00:33:56,280 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 1: I mean, our government in particular, it's not the most 530 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 1: above board, say, I mean, you know, I believe it 531 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:10,879 Speaker 1: was in decayed ur No, actually it was an East 532 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 1: Point in the city of East Point. Um. There was 533 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 1: a whole scandal where the government was like secretly keeping 534 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:21,920 Speaker 1: everyone's water bill money and like not like that. They're 535 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,719 Speaker 1: not you know, giving them the services that they would 536 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:26,880 Speaker 1: do and things like that. Just the local government, the 537 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:28,840 Speaker 1: local government. Yeah, but I just you know, there's a 538 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 1: kind of a culture of corruption in this town. A bit. 539 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 1: I would see any big an obviously, any big time 540 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,720 Speaker 1: but you know what, I put it past our local 541 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:44,879 Speaker 1: government to it just it just seems like a bit 542 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 1: of a stretch, like a bit of like a reach 543 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 1: too far. They're gonna, like, you know, blow up the 544 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:54,360 Speaker 1: bridge to increase martyr writership, and not only that, do 545 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,279 Speaker 1: such a damn fine job fixing it because they really 546 00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 1: are ahead of schedule. You know, Well, it's because they're 547 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 1: spending so much money on it. You know who's paying 548 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:09,879 Speaker 1: for most of it is the US government. Yeah, well 549 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,480 Speaker 1: they're interesting, but at the same time, it's like no 550 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 1: one's pocketing that money. Obviously it costs it. Probably the 551 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 1: contractors are well, that's true, but part of it. I mean, 552 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 1: they'll probably get a bonus too for being ahead of schedule. 553 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 1: But I love what you mentioned about corruption because a 554 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:28,719 Speaker 1: little known fact about a county that is partially as 555 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 1: part of Atlanta is that in this is the cab County. Uh, 556 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,879 Speaker 1: the sheriff. One of the sheriff's murdered another one over 557 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:41,879 Speaker 1: the election. So we we do have we do have 558 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 1: endemic corruption on on several levels, but we have a 559 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:50,840 Speaker 1: lot of honest people doing honest work. I'm I love 560 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 1: the I love the mad cap aspect of Yes, we 561 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 1: need to increase ridership. What's what's the easiest way to 562 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,719 Speaker 1: do it? Should we take out an ad in the paper? No, 563 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:05,000 Speaker 1: how do you feel about bridges? You know, it seems 564 00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 1: kind of rude goldberg esque, But we hope that you 565 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,080 Speaker 1: have enjoyed this episode. We'd like to hear your take 566 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 1: on this kind of thing. Do you think it was 567 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 1: a an attack that was covered up. Do you think 568 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 1: there's something more to the story. There's this just an 569 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 1: unfortunate accident where everyone in the city got lucky and 570 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:27,479 Speaker 1: was not injured. And most importantly, as something like this 571 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:31,759 Speaker 1: happened in a place near you. And what's a what's 572 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:33,640 Speaker 1: a good way for us to start up another new 573 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:37,040 Speaker 1: deal where we just have a public works association that 574 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 1: goes through and just cleans up all the infrastructure that's 575 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:43,840 Speaker 1: controversial that we need it. Trump's got that unlock. Awesome, 576 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,120 Speaker 1: Well let's do it. Yeah, there's there's a plan. We'll 577 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:50,799 Speaker 1: see if it gets past that he proposed months ago. 578 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:57,239 Speaker 1: But that's also controversially. Yeah, that'd be that'd be cool. 579 00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:01,840 Speaker 1: Like I propose that we do an non controversial episode 580 00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:06,920 Speaker 1: like what titles or the sandwiches? 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