WEBVTT - Remembering Dolly Parton 0:00:07.330 --> 0:00:11.090 Hey guys, Bobby here. And so we were going to 0:00:11.130 --> 0:00:12.790 have a couple episodes up at this point of the 0:00:12.810 --> 0:00:14.840 Bobby cast, and it just felt weird to not put 0:00:14.920 --> 0:00:18.459 something out about Dolly. And we had talked on the 0:00:18.480 --> 0:00:20.020 Bobby Bowen show a lot about her and our memories, 0:00:20.780 --> 0:00:22.560 but I wanted to play something. And so what I 0:00:22.560 --> 0:00:25.259 want to play for you guys is the final time 0:00:25.300 --> 0:00:28.040 that Dolly and I were together. This is about a 0:00:28.260 --> 0:00:31.480 half hour podcast. plus interview that we did that I loved. 0:00:31.540 --> 0:00:34.610 And she dedicated so much time, went out to her place. 0:00:35.070 --> 0:00:37.050 We did this. I don't know. It's just so cool. 0:00:37.110 --> 0:00:40.489 She was so cool. Was able to spend, I was 0:00:40.530 --> 0:00:44.580 counting last night, I think seven different occasions with her, 0:00:45.030 --> 0:00:50.060 some for relatively long. Some were show appearances. Some, I 0:00:50.080 --> 0:00:53.140 know one specifically was when the fires hit East Tennessee, 0:00:53.159 --> 0:00:55.600 the Smoky Mountain area. And she did the telethon. I 0:00:55.620 --> 0:00:57.570 went up and helped with that. And I was just 0:00:57.590 --> 0:00:59.870 able to be around her a lot as far as 0:00:59.890 --> 0:01:03.720 I was around her enough that she never wasn't that 0:01:03.900 --> 0:01:07.840 same person, which is kind of crazy because I think 0:01:07.860 --> 0:01:09.740 we all get in good moods and bad moods and, 0:01:10.600 --> 0:01:13.580 you know, hasty moods. But Dolly was always the same. 0:01:13.620 --> 0:01:16.020 She was so kind to everybody. And to me, she 0:01:16.040 --> 0:01:18.520 was always so generous. So I wanted to play this. 0:01:19.120 --> 0:01:21.330 This is the last time that Dolly and I hung out. 0:01:21.390 --> 0:01:23.509 Rest in peace to Dolly Parton, the great Dolly Parton. 0:01:23.550 --> 0:01:26.500 Country music's going to miss her. 80 years old. I 0:01:26.560 --> 0:01:30.100 hope you enjoy the last interview that I did with Dolly. Dolly, 0:01:30.160 --> 0:01:31.740 I love you. I want to leave with that. 0:01:32.360 --> 0:01:32.660 Okay. 0:01:32.720 --> 0:01:33.980 Thank you. I just want to set that there. 0:01:34.000 --> 0:01:35.820 Well, I love you back. Would that be fair to say? 0:01:36.240 --> 0:01:38.890 Yeah, especially now. I think we've been there. 0:01:39.080 --> 0:01:40.230 We all love you. 0:01:40.770 --> 0:01:42.150 So a question. I want to set it up first. 0:01:42.170 --> 0:01:43.430 I have a story that I do on my act 0:01:43.490 --> 0:01:47.730 where I talk about people that show up whenever you 0:01:47.830 --> 0:01:51.050 really can't. They're there to offer you something. But nothing 0:01:51.070 --> 0:01:53.150 in return. And I talk about Lionel Richie and how 0:01:53.230 --> 0:01:56.930 I was freaking out one day because Ryan Seacrest, he 0:01:56.970 --> 0:01:58.230 got sick and had to miss Idol. So I had 0:01:58.250 --> 0:02:00.170 to go host it with like four minutes before the 0:02:00.190 --> 0:02:02.490 show starts. He's never missed an episode. And here I am. 0:02:02.790 --> 0:02:04.140 And it's not that I can't host a show, but 0:02:04.160 --> 0:02:05.740 the stage direction is such a big part about it. 0:02:06.380 --> 0:02:08.480 And I talk about how Lionel gets up, walks all 0:02:08.500 --> 0:02:11.600 the way across the arena. He's got to get back 0:02:11.639 --> 0:02:14.320 to his seat too and just gives me this real, 0:02:14.840 --> 0:02:17.960 hey man, hands on the shoulders. You can do this. 0:02:18.000 --> 0:02:20.190 The Commodores did this. He didn't have to do that. 0:02:20.620 --> 0:02:22.780 Like Lionel Richie's as famous, as nice, as cool as 0:02:22.800 --> 0:02:24.500 could be. Didn't have to do that. And so I 0:02:24.540 --> 0:02:26.940 talk about how amazing it is when people will give 0:02:27.020 --> 0:02:29.740 to you when they want nothing in return. And so 0:02:29.760 --> 0:02:32.000 when I say a story like that to you, who 0:02:32.080 --> 0:02:34.060 comes to mind that did not have to be there 0:02:34.100 --> 0:02:35.660 for you, but was there? 0:02:36.600 --> 0:02:40.710 Well, so many people actually have more than one. In 0:02:40.770 --> 0:02:44.370 my early days, my Uncle Bill, who's the one that 0:02:44.410 --> 0:02:47.299 took me around because he saw my great potential. And 0:02:47.320 --> 0:02:49.620 he would take me around to shows and things. And 0:02:49.780 --> 0:02:51.600 even when my daddy didn't even want me to go, 0:02:51.620 --> 0:02:55.300 you know, getting out in the world, like my Uncle 0:02:55.320 --> 0:02:57.300 Bill used to bring me down to Nashville in the 0:02:57.380 --> 0:02:59.910 early days. So he was definitely one of the people 0:02:59.930 --> 0:03:02.130 that didn't have to do it. He just saw that 0:03:02.650 --> 0:03:05.290 that was my dream and my desire. But there are 0:03:05.310 --> 0:03:08.270 many people, like in the business, many Pearl, when I 0:03:08.330 --> 0:03:11.830 first came to Nashville, she called me over one day 0:03:11.910 --> 0:03:15.150 and she said, Dolly, you're a right pretty girl. And 0:03:15.610 --> 0:03:17.970 you seem like you've got you know, a lot of 0:03:18.060 --> 0:03:20.600 talent because I've heard some of your songs. She said, 0:03:21.100 --> 0:03:24.660 but don't let anybody ever tell you that you need 0:03:24.700 --> 0:03:27.220 to be this way or you need to be that way. 0:03:27.620 --> 0:03:30.320 You just be you. And she said, don't let none 0:03:30.380 --> 0:03:33.690 of these old hairy-legged boys try to make you believe 0:03:33.730 --> 0:03:36.350 that you're not as good as they are because you 0:03:36.410 --> 0:03:39.590 can be whatever you want to be. And she didn't 0:03:39.630 --> 0:03:42.690 have to do that, but she saw that I was 0:03:43.050 --> 0:03:46.330 about to to do my number and she did not 0:03:46.390 --> 0:03:48.510 want me to get caught up. And like some of 0:03:48.530 --> 0:03:51.390 the girls would just kind of do whatever they needed 0:03:51.430 --> 0:03:53.850 to do to get a break. But she saw something 0:03:53.910 --> 0:03:56.130 else in me, but she just said, don't do it. 0:03:56.170 --> 0:03:58.630 You just be you and believe in your talent and 0:03:58.650 --> 0:03:59.350 believe in yourself. 0:03:59.630 --> 0:04:00.340 Why do you think she did that? 0:04:01.190 --> 0:04:05.640 Because she's a good person. Like you said, people that 0:04:05.860 --> 0:04:09.240 are good tend to do good things. And I think 0:04:09.280 --> 0:04:12.800 that was probably Lionel's good heart that saw that he'd 0:04:12.840 --> 0:04:15.780 been in that spot before. And she probably had in 0:04:15.840 --> 0:04:19.000 her own time and in her own way been in 0:04:19.060 --> 0:04:19.620 that spot. 0:04:20.520 --> 0:04:22.280 We went to Italy, my wife and I, and I'm 0:04:22.300 --> 0:04:23.860 from a rural town in Arkansas. I never went out 0:04:23.880 --> 0:04:25.620 of the country until I started to have some success. 0:04:26.120 --> 0:04:28.760 So now that we're older, get to do some cool 0:04:28.779 --> 0:04:31.820 stuff and we go and they would have Italian music 0:04:31.860 --> 0:04:33.400 on in these places. But I ate so early because 0:04:33.500 --> 0:04:36.180 my schedule is pretty early. And they would turn on 0:04:36.220 --> 0:04:39.080 American music everywhere we went. In three of the four places, 0:04:39.120 --> 0:04:41.479 they turned on your music when we walked in. They 0:04:41.520 --> 0:04:45.150 assume every American, and it's probably right, loves Dolly Parton. 0:04:46.950 --> 0:04:51.430 Well, I'm sure every American don't. Yeah, I'm sure there's 0:04:51.450 --> 0:04:53.229 a lot of people that slap me upside the head, 0:04:53.250 --> 0:04:55.690 but I don't want to hear about them. It's a 0:04:55.750 --> 0:04:58.660 great compliment. But see, I've been at this a long time. 0:04:59.120 --> 0:05:02.640 And I've been famous in Europe for years and years 0:05:02.680 --> 0:05:06.000 and years because... of the songs that I used to 0:05:06.060 --> 0:05:08.839 sing and write, like Code of Many Colors, and people 0:05:08.900 --> 0:05:11.480 related to that. They knew that I was brought up 0:05:11.580 --> 0:05:14.830 in a family of 12 children, kind of a mountain 0:05:14.850 --> 0:05:18.930 Cinderella story, and people related to my music, and so 0:05:18.990 --> 0:05:21.750 therefore they related to me. And then when I got 0:05:21.810 --> 0:05:25.029 to being on TV and stuff, people felt like they 0:05:25.089 --> 0:05:27.850 knew me. So it wasn't uncommon. A lot of my 0:05:27.890 --> 0:05:31.010 music was playing more overseas than it did here for 0:05:31.040 --> 0:05:35.300 a long time, from my early records. But it's nice 0:05:35.339 --> 0:05:37.400 to be loved by anybody, anywhere. 0:05:37.420 --> 0:05:41.060 I was eating pasta to your music, though. Most places 0:05:41.100 --> 0:05:42.380 we went, it was you playing over the top or 0:05:42.400 --> 0:05:43.719 eating our pasta in Italy. 0:05:44.060 --> 0:05:45.600 Oh, did that make you happy or was you trying 0:05:45.620 --> 0:05:46.479 to get out of the country? 0:05:46.580 --> 0:05:48.800 No, it made me feel like I was at home, 0:05:48.839 --> 0:05:51.780 which is great. My set on my show, I have 0:05:51.800 --> 0:05:54.500 a couch and a couple lamps. And really, that's it 0:05:54.520 --> 0:05:57.290 because when I grew up in this, we grew up 0:05:57.430 --> 0:05:59.589 in a 900-square-foot house in Arkansas. I never had a bedroom. 0:05:59.610 --> 0:06:01.930 My whole life, I slept on the couch. And so 0:06:01.970 --> 0:06:05.159 my closet was underneath my couch and It was literally... 0:06:05.580 --> 0:06:08.610 Everything was on the couch. Never had a bedroom. And 0:06:08.670 --> 0:06:10.729 so that was what it was like, though, for me 0:06:10.790 --> 0:06:12.450 growing up in a small house with a lot of 0:06:12.490 --> 0:06:17.520 people around. Your story... similar-ish. You're from a small town 0:06:17.779 --> 0:06:20.170 in Tennessee. What was home like for you growing up? 0:06:20.290 --> 0:06:24.289 Well, home was like full. There was a lot of kids. 0:06:25.570 --> 0:06:28.330 Mama had one kid on her and one kid in her, 0:06:28.610 --> 0:06:31.010 as long as I can remember. One on her hip 0:06:31.100 --> 0:06:34.580 and one growing in. But we lived in the house, 0:06:35.700 --> 0:06:37.660 and we didn't have running water unless we'd run and 0:06:37.680 --> 0:06:40.400 get it. And you know, we just kind of washed 0:06:40.480 --> 0:06:42.910 in a wash pan. And people say, how in the 0:06:42.950 --> 0:06:45.290 world did you take a bath? That many people in 0:06:45.310 --> 0:06:47.310 the house, because there were six boys and six girls 0:06:47.350 --> 0:06:51.010 in my family, ultimately. I mean, after we were all 0:06:51.450 --> 0:06:54.520 there and after mom had had them all. But people say, 0:06:54.580 --> 0:06:57.060 how did you take a bath? How'd you have any privacy? 0:06:57.080 --> 0:06:59.460 I said, well, we had a little screen, you know, 0:06:59.520 --> 0:07:02.229 a little sheet. Mom would tie a little string over there. 0:07:02.270 --> 0:07:05.990 And then We'd wash up as far as possible, and 0:07:06.029 --> 0:07:08.849 then we'd wash down as far as possible. And when 0:07:08.870 --> 0:07:11.050 the boys cleared the room, we washed possible. 0:07:13.370 --> 0:07:15.210 Yes, yes, I did. 0:07:15.590 --> 0:07:18.390 Well, it basically is like that because it was about 0:07:18.610 --> 0:07:22.100 your privacy because you knew when you could, you know, 0:07:22.520 --> 0:07:24.340 the girls had to do their thing, the boys had 0:07:24.360 --> 0:07:27.300 to do their things, make sure, you know, that we 0:07:28.520 --> 0:07:33.960 cared about such things as privacy and decency. and all that. 0:07:34.440 --> 0:07:37.460 But when you're growing up, it's just natural. Growing up 0:07:37.740 --> 0:07:40.550 like we did, you learn the rules and you go 0:07:40.590 --> 0:07:40.930 by them. 0:07:41.410 --> 0:07:44.750 When you have all those brothers and sisters, you have 0:07:44.890 --> 0:07:47.280 to somehow get attention for yourself. I mean, you're born 0:07:47.320 --> 0:07:51.630 into an environment of everybody. even indirectly seeking attention. You 0:07:52.110 --> 0:07:54.950 got a couple of parents, 12 kids. I mean, is 0:07:55.010 --> 0:07:57.790 that where this performance gene came from? Yeah. 0:07:58.610 --> 0:08:01.150 Well, my mother's people were all very musical. So music 0:08:01.190 --> 0:08:03.410 was always a part of our family. My grandpa was 0:08:03.450 --> 0:08:07.490 a preacher. He also played piano and played guitar. So 0:08:07.670 --> 0:08:10.810 my people were the ones that sang at funerals and 0:08:10.890 --> 0:08:15.250 weddings and shindigs and anything around locally. Some of my relatives, 0:08:15.290 --> 0:08:19.640 somebody was always playing. But when I was young, my 0:08:19.680 --> 0:08:23.760 Uncle Bill and my Uncle Louis were both, you know, 0:08:23.900 --> 0:08:26.460 they paid attention to me. My Uncle Louis gave me 0:08:26.500 --> 0:08:29.140 my first little baby Martin guitar because he saw how 0:08:29.190 --> 0:08:32.589 serious I was. When everybody would come bring their instruments, 0:08:32.630 --> 0:08:35.150 we'd sit on the porch and sing. Well, I learned 0:08:35.170 --> 0:08:37.010 to play that little guitar, and that's when my Uncle 0:08:37.030 --> 0:08:41.970 Bill saw the great potential. But I learned to play 0:08:41.990 --> 0:08:44.390 when I was like seven. So I started writing some 0:08:44.429 --> 0:08:47.880 serious songs. And then mama was fascinated with how I 0:08:47.900 --> 0:08:50.579 could rhyme and write songs about stuff I'd never lived. 0:08:50.900 --> 0:08:53.600 But I'd hear them talk about people in the war, 0:08:53.679 --> 0:08:56.600 somebody sick, somebody this, just those old world songs they 0:08:56.760 --> 0:08:59.200 used to sing. So I would write all these songs. 0:08:59.720 --> 0:09:02.640 And when people would come to the house, mama would say, Ronnie, 0:09:02.660 --> 0:09:05.679 get your guitar. I want you to hear what this 0:09:05.720 --> 0:09:09.500 little thing has wrote. And so I would get my 0:09:09.540 --> 0:09:12.520 guitar and I would sing those songs. And so I 0:09:12.580 --> 0:09:15.720 saw right away that I was getting more attention. Because 0:09:15.860 --> 0:09:17.850 I have a sister and two brothers older, so I 0:09:17.870 --> 0:09:20.570 was fourth one down, and then there's eight younger. So 0:09:21.090 --> 0:09:23.370 I didn't get a lot of attention, but I saw 0:09:23.809 --> 0:09:25.210 I could get it. And I was one of those 0:09:25.250 --> 0:09:27.770 kids that needed a lot of attention. And I knew 0:09:27.830 --> 0:09:30.050 Mom and Daddy loved us all the same, but we 0:09:30.090 --> 0:09:32.510 didn't get picked up unless we was getting our butt 0:09:33.030 --> 0:09:37.059 busted or sick or something. So that guitar and my 0:09:37.120 --> 0:09:41.280 music was my first entrance into music. getting the attention 0:09:41.320 --> 0:09:43.230 that I needed, and I'm still at it. 0:09:43.340 --> 0:09:44.590 Yeah, I was going to ask, do you still crave it? 0:09:45.090 --> 0:09:45.510 I do. 0:09:45.530 --> 0:09:52.250 I think that's, but I crave it now because it 0:09:52.309 --> 0:09:55.530 fulfills what I feel is my true gift. You know, 0:09:55.570 --> 0:09:58.280 I love to write songs, and I've written tons and 0:09:58.320 --> 0:10:02.090 tons of songs through the years. But I don't know 0:10:02.150 --> 0:10:05.089 that it's—well, I guess it is about attention. I just 0:10:05.190 --> 0:10:08.610 love doing it, and I want people to see that 0:10:08.670 --> 0:10:10.770 I can do it. I want them to appreciate what 0:10:10.830 --> 0:10:13.830 I am doing, that I have written these songs that 0:10:13.929 --> 0:10:16.930 I hope are good, I think are good, but that's 0:10:16.950 --> 0:10:19.010 for somebody else to judge. But then when they do 0:10:19.090 --> 0:10:22.699 judge me, you know, and I get the accolades from 0:10:22.760 --> 0:10:26.600 all that, then I feel like I've done something great. 0:10:26.880 --> 0:10:30.380 And so, and I do crave that. So I guess 0:10:30.460 --> 0:10:32.900 attention is the best word for it. Don't you guess? 0:10:33.480 --> 0:10:36.680 Yeah, I think I just was seeking love. Like, I 0:10:36.700 --> 0:10:38.280 think that was it for me where I would go, okay, well, 0:10:38.300 --> 0:10:39.679 I didn't get a lot of love growing up because 0:10:39.700 --> 0:10:41.730 I didn't have parents, really. And so I would go 0:10:41.750 --> 0:10:43.370 and perform or be funny and people would go, I 0:10:44.179 --> 0:10:47.190 like that. I would be like, wow, I'm liked. And 0:10:47.290 --> 0:10:50.480 so it didn't start working with me forever. with girls 0:10:50.540 --> 0:10:53.080 until probably my twenties. Oh yeah. And then I just 0:10:53.340 --> 0:10:54.579 got married a couple of years ago. I've been married 0:10:54.620 --> 0:10:58.280 two years, so thank you. Never been married two years in. 0:10:58.840 --> 0:11:00.959 So what's, but it's difficult cause I already kind of 0:11:00.980 --> 0:11:03.760 had my ways wired. I was 40 when I got married. Well, yeah. 0:11:03.780 --> 0:11:05.270 Did she have her ways wired? 0:11:05.650 --> 0:11:07.729 Yeah. I mean, I feel, I feel like I'm way 0:11:07.750 --> 0:11:10.470 more wired though. Oh, are you? Yeah. I'm, I'm almost 0:11:10.470 --> 0:11:13.350 12 years older than her. So it's not a crazy difference, 0:11:13.370 --> 0:11:16.170 but it's enough of a difference to where like, she 0:11:16.190 --> 0:11:19.080 still got some landing room to where I'm, I am 0:11:19.120 --> 0:11:22.030 who I am. I'm trying to not be that way. 0:11:22.150 --> 0:11:24.770 No, don't you not be. Let her change. Don't you change. 0:11:25.410 --> 0:11:29.429 I've never heard anyone advise that. Okay. 0:11:29.450 --> 0:11:31.070 Well, you can't change. 0:11:31.090 --> 0:11:33.150 This is the greatest segment. Give me more advice like that. 0:11:33.170 --> 0:11:33.770 You know what? 0:11:34.110 --> 0:11:36.750 I've been with my husband for 59 years. He knew 0:11:36.770 --> 0:11:39.010 who I was when he met me, and I knew 0:11:39.030 --> 0:11:40.240 who he was. But I was only 18 when we met, 0:11:40.830 --> 0:11:42.410 and he was 21. So we kind of grew up. 0:11:47.590 --> 0:11:50.690 You know, we kind of learned each other as we went. 0:11:51.130 --> 0:11:53.740 But I saw who he was early on. He saw 0:11:53.750 --> 0:11:56.679 who I was. And he saw right away that I 0:11:56.700 --> 0:12:01.000 wasn't going to change much. But I was able to adapt. 0:12:01.080 --> 0:12:04.439 I think that word is better about adapting than it 0:12:04.559 --> 0:12:07.960 is change. You got to adapt to certain things because 0:12:08.040 --> 0:12:10.540 you can't just have it all your way. 0:12:10.559 --> 0:12:12.480 I'm going to take her to that clip, though, of 0:12:12.500 --> 0:12:14.660 you saying she needs to change and cut the rest 0:12:14.700 --> 0:12:16.120 of it out except for that. 0:12:16.179 --> 0:12:17.980 Well, I don't think you need to change. I don't 0:12:18.000 --> 0:12:20.610 know what it's like at home. I ain't her, but 0:12:20.990 --> 0:12:26.290 I'd like to be. But don't change. 0:12:26.610 --> 0:12:29.610 A similarity that I think your husband, not known for 0:12:29.630 --> 0:12:31.990 being a super public guy. My wife does not like 0:12:32.010 --> 0:12:32.829 to be in the spotlight. 0:12:33.170 --> 0:12:34.150 Oh, my husband hates it. 0:12:34.190 --> 0:12:34.670 He don't. 0:12:34.710 --> 0:12:35.550 He never was. 0:12:35.690 --> 0:12:38.590 So how do you, what was that balance? Because we 0:12:38.610 --> 0:12:41.500 struggle with that now because I, again, I need it 0:12:42.130 --> 0:12:44.860 to be successful. She does not want it at all. 0:12:45.540 --> 0:12:46.400 How did you guys do that? 0:12:46.600 --> 0:12:50.579 Well, my husband was a homebody and he's very, he's 0:12:50.679 --> 0:12:53.179 very quiet and he didn't want to do anything but 0:12:53.200 --> 0:12:55.640 be at home. He's a homebody. He's a cancer. You know, 0:12:55.660 --> 0:12:58.400 if you go by the signs, I'm Capricorn, he's cancer. 0:12:58.460 --> 0:13:02.730 Those are compatible signs. If you put any faith in that. 0:13:02.809 --> 0:13:06.230 But if you don't, and I don't to that degree, 0:13:06.309 --> 0:13:10.490 but he loved being who he was and loved being 0:13:10.530 --> 0:13:13.589 left alone to do it. And I loved being who 0:13:13.610 --> 0:13:15.210 I was and being left alone to do it. And 0:13:15.230 --> 0:13:19.000 so we just found ways, things that we did like 0:13:19.140 --> 0:13:23.540 together and things that we enjoyed doing that was us. 0:13:24.040 --> 0:13:26.439 So maybe you be you and let her be her 0:13:26.480 --> 0:13:28.699 and then you, Got to find some new things so 0:13:28.760 --> 0:13:32.160 you can be us. You can be, you know, who 0:13:32.200 --> 0:13:35.600 you are. Because that's the key of just trying to 0:13:35.640 --> 0:13:39.209 find that. You can't just make somebody be what you 0:13:39.230 --> 0:13:40.520 want them to be. They are who they are. 0:13:40.530 --> 0:13:41.850 I'm trying to make her be what I want to be. 0:13:42.190 --> 0:13:44.650 But she's also very strong herself. 0:13:44.910 --> 0:13:47.670 That's what I'm saying. You can't make anybody change. You've 0:13:47.710 --> 0:13:51.200 just got to make them want to do some things different. 0:13:51.320 --> 0:13:53.160 I'd be willing to. And if not, it won't last forever. 0:13:54.270 --> 0:13:56.790 and you can come live with me and my husband. 0:13:59.870 --> 0:14:02.770 Well, you wanna know. I will, I'll use this in 0:14:02.820 --> 0:14:04.150 court when I show up at your house and you 0:14:04.200 --> 0:14:06.680 guys try to kick me out. I said, yeah. 0:14:06.840 --> 0:14:10.500 But it's not easy. We've been together all these years, 0:14:10.520 --> 0:14:14.140 but like I say, somebody says, what do you attribute 0:14:14.840 --> 0:14:16.839 your long marriage to? I say, well, I stay gone. 0:14:17.280 --> 0:14:18.400 So maybe that's your answer. 0:14:18.780 --> 0:14:21.280 Do you guys have– just an example about my wife 0:14:21.300 --> 0:14:23.330 and I. I usually don't work three weekends in a row, 0:14:23.370 --> 0:14:25.350 meaning I'll work all week doing the radio show or 0:14:25.370 --> 0:14:27.989 shooting TV and I'll tour. But I really try hard 0:14:28.030 --> 0:14:30.170 not to do three in a row to for sure 0:14:30.250 --> 0:14:33.250 carve out that weekend. Like we try to set these 0:14:33.310 --> 0:14:36.140 little benchmarks and pillars. Did you guys have any of 0:14:36.180 --> 0:14:38.040 that in your relationship early on so you didn't get lost? 0:14:38.060 --> 0:14:40.600 Because my time management skills are not great to do 0:14:40.660 --> 0:14:42.340 personal and– Private. 0:14:42.460 --> 0:14:44.760 Well, I hadn't become a star when I met my husband. 0:14:44.820 --> 0:14:47.140 I just came here to be one. And he knew that. 0:14:47.260 --> 0:14:48.890 And so he went with it. But did she not 0:14:48.950 --> 0:14:49.750 know that about you? 0:14:49.770 --> 0:14:53.270 She did. I think, though, when we we dated pre-COVID 0:14:53.370 --> 0:14:56.790 for six, eight months or so long distance, then COVID 0:14:56.810 --> 0:14:57.930 and COVID, I'm home all the time. 0:14:58.530 --> 0:14:59.770 Well, that's when you get to know somebody. 0:14:59.790 --> 0:15:01.070 You know that old saying? We got to know each other. 0:15:01.090 --> 0:15:01.160 Yep. 0:15:01.330 --> 0:15:03.570 You don't know somebody until you have to live with them. 0:15:03.590 --> 0:15:05.650 Until you get to poop real close to them. You 0:15:05.670 --> 0:15:07.800 know what I mean? 0:15:07.820 --> 0:15:10.660 Well, that's when you know who you really are. 0:15:10.940 --> 0:15:12.740 And that's how I knew I loved her. But then 0:15:12.820 --> 0:15:16.000 once work opened up, I'm gone again. And so I 0:15:16.020 --> 0:15:17.040 kind of tricked her. I kind of hit her with 0:15:17.060 --> 0:15:18.700 the rope-a-dope. I tricked her. I was like, look how 0:15:18.760 --> 0:15:20.980 home I am. And then I'm gone all the time. 0:15:21.440 --> 0:15:24.470 Don't you blame her false on COVID. So both of 0:15:24.490 --> 0:15:25.470 you have to take the blame. 0:15:25.550 --> 0:15:27.770 Oh, it's all me. I've also learned that. 0:15:27.810 --> 0:15:29.290 So she said, right? 0:15:29.330 --> 0:15:31.030 Yes, I've learned it's all me. 0:15:31.570 --> 0:15:33.150 It's not all you. 0:15:33.550 --> 0:15:36.280 I have to apologize for what I do in her dreams. 0:15:37.040 --> 0:15:38.640 That's a thing now. Like if she has a bad 0:15:38.680 --> 0:15:40.700 dream and I do something bad in her dream, then 0:15:40.740 --> 0:15:41.060 I have to. 0:15:41.080 --> 0:15:44.880 I better tickle her or I will say too much. 0:15:45.800 --> 0:15:49.340 Well, you talk about fame. Like what is it? 0:15:50.860 --> 0:15:51.320 Fame. 0:15:52.300 --> 0:15:52.500 Yeah. 0:15:53.090 --> 0:15:55.870 Well, I guess the word fame is after you. I 0:15:55.930 --> 0:15:58.220 think that word must have been invented after people were 0:15:58.250 --> 0:16:02.500 already stars, had to be. Because I think fame and 0:16:02.560 --> 0:16:07.000 success are not necessarily the same words. And successful and 0:16:07.040 --> 0:16:10.410 success are not the same words. You can be a success, 0:16:11.090 --> 0:16:14.080 but not successful enough. If you're not, if you don't 0:16:14.140 --> 0:16:16.320 know how to enjoy it, if you can't enjoy it, 0:16:16.480 --> 0:16:19.280 if you don't appreciate it, if it doesn't work for 0:16:19.300 --> 0:16:22.520 you and make you happy, because that's, that is, you know, 0:16:22.660 --> 0:16:26.210 money as that, whoever said it, money can make a man, 0:16:26.230 --> 0:16:28.690 but you know, I mean, man can make money, but 0:16:28.750 --> 0:16:31.580 money cannot make a man. It's the same, you know, 0:16:31.620 --> 0:16:34.520 it's like you've got to. But fame, I guess that 0:16:34.560 --> 0:16:36.560 just means you've made it, and there you are, just 0:16:36.580 --> 0:16:39.860 like a star. But it's like that movie, Rhinestone, there 0:16:39.880 --> 0:16:41.400 was a line in it that I always laughed at. 0:16:41.450 --> 0:16:45.670 A star is just a big ball of gas, you know. 0:16:45.830 --> 0:16:47.810 And that's kind of what it is if you look 0:16:47.850 --> 0:16:49.890 at it like that. So it's what, I guess, what 0:16:49.930 --> 0:16:54.320 you tag it to. I feel like I'm famous, meaning everybody. 0:16:54.380 --> 0:16:56.460 I think fame means that everybody knows who you are. 0:16:57.290 --> 0:17:01.340 You know, you're famous because everybody knows your name. And you, 0:17:01.580 --> 0:17:04.800 you know, they'll see you on TV. But that still doesn't, 0:17:05.280 --> 0:17:07.380 should not make you a different person. 0:17:07.920 --> 0:17:22.430 Hang tight. The Bobbycast will be right back. And we're 0:17:22.470 --> 0:17:24.150 back on The Bobbycast. 0:17:25.090 --> 0:17:26.760 Or does it make you more of who you kind 0:17:26.820 --> 0:17:32.160 of are? really are? Since you have access and since 0:17:32.200 --> 0:17:36.240 you have resources, does fame, success make you more of 0:17:36.300 --> 0:17:38.380 who you originally are and what do you think? 0:17:38.400 --> 0:17:40.800 I think so. I'd like to think so. In my case, 0:17:40.859 --> 0:17:45.980 it does because I've never been a diva. I'm thankful 0:17:46.359 --> 0:17:48.720 that I'm successful. I always wanted to have money. I 0:17:48.740 --> 0:17:51.080 wrote a song called Sacrificing and it says, I was 0:17:51.100 --> 0:17:53.240 going to be rich no matter how much it took. 0:17:54.000 --> 0:17:57.550 I was going to be rich no matter... how much 0:17:58.030 --> 0:18:00.910 it costs, and I was going to win no matter 0:18:00.950 --> 0:18:03.790 how much I lost, you know, and that to me, 0:18:04.130 --> 0:18:06.660 those two lines, you know, it's like if you're willing 0:18:06.920 --> 0:18:09.260 to sacrifice all through the years, I kept my eye 0:18:09.300 --> 0:18:12.340 on the prize, you know, and you ask if it's 0:18:12.359 --> 0:18:15.060 worth the sacrifice, but you don't, you know, it's like 0:18:15.320 --> 0:18:18.699 empty or full, you know, I've carried my pail, but 0:18:18.740 --> 0:18:21.310 you don't drink the water if you don't dig the well, 0:18:21.920 --> 0:18:24.650 you know, it's like all those things you, I think 0:18:24.690 --> 0:18:28.010 that I'm the same person I always was. I'm just 0:18:28.070 --> 0:18:30.350 more relaxed now. I'm more comfortable because I can afford 0:18:30.430 --> 0:18:32.630 to be. That's what you were saying. I can afford 0:18:32.670 --> 0:18:35.260 to be myself. Just like when I started cutting, I 0:18:35.300 --> 0:18:38.480 had to wait. I never could make money, big money, 0:18:38.500 --> 0:18:39.220 singing bluegrass. 0:18:39.280 --> 0:18:40.240 And I love bluegrass. 0:18:41.040 --> 0:18:43.320 And so when I did my bluegrass album, I said 0:18:43.359 --> 0:18:44.840 I had to get rich in order to sing like 0:18:44.880 --> 0:18:49.320 I could. You know? It's like you kind of, you know, 0:18:49.440 --> 0:18:51.420 you can look at things like that. But I guess 0:18:51.480 --> 0:18:54.960 everybody has their own. a version of what they think 0:18:55.040 --> 0:19:00.260 fame and stardom is. I'm a celebrity, but all those 0:19:00.320 --> 0:19:04.210 words like celebrity star, you know, and fame, they're just 0:19:04.330 --> 0:19:06.710