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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where the holidays are over, days

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Speaker 1: are over almost. I'm Greg Rosenthal here and the Chris

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Speaker 1: Westling podcast studio, our last NFL Daily of two thousand

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Speaker 1: and twenty five.

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Speaker 2: It's been a great year previewing.

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Speaker 1: Games with my friends Patrick Claybah and Jordan Rodrieg Here.

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Speaker 2: We are the last full slate to talk about of

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Speaker 2: the year.

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Speaker 3: We did it so and so did all the players

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Speaker 3: and coaches and people and the staffs, loading up the airplanes,

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Speaker 3: the buses, everybody involved in making this a great NFL season,

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Speaker 3: and I hope they have a successful and happy twenty

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Speaker 1: You guys aren't off the hook that we're going to

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Speaker 1: be previewing the playoffs, and yeah, the train keeps moving.

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Speaker 4: It doesn't stop after that.

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Speaker 1: No, this is this is just the beginning, but it's

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Speaker 1: been it's been a great year here on the Preview

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Speaker 1: show and on NFL Daily. I did want to because

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Speaker 1: some people were asking we got those Christmas cards to

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Speaker 1: Colleen Wolf and look, we had QB Island on the

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Speaker 1: docket for Tuesday. We got to do a season finale

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Speaker 1: QB Island, And you know, knowing us like procrastinating makes

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Speaker 1: sense we're gonna be reading all those Christmas cards once

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Speaker 1: we get to the New Year next Tuesday, so I'm

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Speaker 1: looking forward to that. But in the meantime, we have

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Speaker 1: a little bit different of a setup here, Patrick, you know,

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Speaker 1: as the as the co host, I'm putting a lot

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Speaker 1: on you. We're gonna go NFC first, okay, then AFC,

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Speaker 1: and we're doing it in order of seeding entering the week. So,

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Speaker 1: for instance, the first game is Seattle San Francisco, because

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Speaker 1: San Francisco, I mean Seattle rather is the number one seed,

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Speaker 1: and so we're going in order of seating, and we

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Speaker 1: are gonna put a clock on each one of these games.

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Speaker 2: But each game deserves.

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Speaker 1: A different amount of time, and Seattle San Francisco is

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Speaker 1: one of three, you know, very meaningful games that deserve

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Speaker 3: And that's why we got seven in red parenthetically, which

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Speaker 3: I enjoy because you know, it highlights the importance of

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Speaker 3: the fact that the Seattle Seahawks are one and a

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Speaker 3: half point favorites on the road against those San Francisco

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Speaker 3: forty nine ers who just won the Bears, playing against

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Speaker 3: the Bears, playing again in another game of the year,

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Speaker 3: as it seems like the Bears are doing that every

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Speaker 3: single week on ESPN and ABC. Shout out to broadcast Television.

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Speaker 3: Forty nine and a half is the over under Joe Buck, Troygman,

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Speaker 3: and Laura Rutledge are on the call. Greg, the forty

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Speaker 3: nine ers can do this. You've highlighted the possibility of

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Speaker 3: them doing this for the past several weeks. Do they

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Speaker 3: actually do it and get the number one overall seed.

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Speaker 1: I'm leaning Seahawks, but it wouldn't surprise me if the

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Speaker 1: forty nine ers won this game. I think the one

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Speaker 1: thing that should make forty nine Ers fans feel better

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Speaker 1: about their biggest weakness, which is obviously the pass rush

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Speaker 1: question I have for Seattle right now. Is Sam Darnold,

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Speaker 1: you know, recovering from getting booted off of Quarterback Island

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Speaker 1: the offense in a position to beat up on a

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Speaker 2: I have my doubts. I literally don't know the answer.

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Speaker 1: But the way Donald and the running game inconsistency has

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Speaker 5: I think they have a size advantage in a lot

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Speaker 4: Too. The way that aj.

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Speaker 5: Barner has emerged as a real threat. You know, their

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Speaker 5: But the two back system that they want to run,

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Speaker 4: You have mismatches everywhere.

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Speaker 3: And it made my friend and Fantasy Live co host

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Speaker 3: Adam Rank think of the There was a John Favreau

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Speaker 6: If that's what A J. Barner was celebrating, I know

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Speaker 5: Never been able to laugh at episode in the show.

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Speaker 5: He watched it all the way through.

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Speaker 3: No, yeah, he celebrates the entire catalog. It's it's a

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Speaker 3: you know, the premise was a ripoff of Living Single

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Speaker 3: and all that to collude into a discussion about Sam

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Speaker 3: by teams to bother Sam Donald look going all the

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Speaker 3: way back to the legendary Jacoby Brissett game that I

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Speaker 6: This forty nine Ers team has not been able to

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Speaker 3: So if you want to extract that bad version of

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Speaker 3: and I have yet to see them do it fair

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Speaker 3: and just the way that Nicki Menmory and the rest

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Speaker 2: Talk about that side much talent.

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Speaker 1: It is very possibly the best offense in the league

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Speaker 1: this we might have gotten this one two weeks ago too,

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Speaker 1: It's hard to imagine them being their best selves without

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree, And because otherwise the forty nine Ers

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Speaker 4: I don't know that you get a game like that out.

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Speaker 5: Of Christian McCaffrey ten times out of ten at this

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Speaker 5: point in his career. But this is also a forty

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Speaker 2: It's a playoff game because it is.

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Speaker 5: A playoff game, and that's the thing, and it feels

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Speaker 1: Someone gets a playoff win if you win. It's like

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Speaker 6: But they but they don't get the win though.

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Speaker 2: You get to advance to the final ty advance.

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Speaker 3: But in terms of looking back and when we do

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Speaker 6: Nobody's going to sit.

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Speaker 3: Donald got that playoff win because he won that game.

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Speaker 1: You don't get the enjoyment, but you do get to

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Speaker 1: advance ants to the final eight the winner, and that's

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Speaker 1: an amazing carrot for both of these teams.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the type the forty nine ers no

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Speaker 5: cannot run pressure. But when I'm talking about matchup football,

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Speaker 5: I do think that Robert Sala, with this cast of

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Speaker 5: Seattle Seahawks have to basically oversize and overwhelm this forty

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Speaker 4: Okay, let's just load up and overwhelm. Forty nine Ers.

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Speaker 5: On the other hand, have to say, you know what,

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Speaker 5: we can't rush the quarterback regularly. Let's try to mess

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Speaker 5: him up in other ways, in ways that other teams

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Speaker 3: If there can be this coaching masterclass and SOLI can

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Speaker 3: forty nine Ers can win this game. I just think

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Speaker 3: that the barriers to success there's a whole lot more

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Speaker 1: I think talking about the physicality is it. I just

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Speaker 1: of brock Purty that you saw in week one, remember

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Speaker 1: the forty nine ers won this game in Week one,

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Speaker 1: in a game that brock Purty was pressured sixty percent

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Speaker 1: remember it was much better than the box score indicated.

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Speaker 1: So he's kind of he's been better than Sam Arnold

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Speaker 1: Jordan, Well, they are the two seed and this is

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Speaker 5: Time limit for the first one anyway, So I do not.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 4: Kelvin Shepard is that guy. He's that dude.

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Speaker 5: Otherwise, though, I like every time you say I hate

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Speaker 1: I'm also not ready to say Kelvin Shepherd is that dude.

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Speaker 2: So I think it'll be a good game.

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Speaker 1: That first one that you mentioned too, and people were

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Speaker 4: Are we on handshake?

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Speaker 6: Watch?

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Speaker 1: He even whispered like a quick thing in Ben Johnson's here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And you know, I think it highlights what when

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Speaker 2: Not to us.

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Speaker 1: Not to us though, And it's like that's like saying

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Speaker 5: You know, I think too that this is one of

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Speaker 5: That spot, obviously the stakes are huge, so you have

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Speaker 5: just well enough. It's been above average, beyond above average

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Speaker 1: And I don't think the stakes are huge. They know

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Speaker 1: But Ben Johnson, unlike other coaches has said very clearly

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Speaker 1: So I think they're going to play all out in

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Speaker 5: No, get Kyle Manungai closer to one thousand. He's not

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Speaker 5: going to make it. I mean, listen, never say never.

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Speaker 3: If Golf and Gibbs and Jmo and the rest of

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Speaker 6: Yeah, they're actually getting more the lines.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: a team that's peaking. Just last week really hammered home

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Speaker 1: Colston Lovelin for what he unlocks in their offense with

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Speaker 1: are absolutely peaking right now. What man, It's so hard

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Speaker 1: and yet I do. I have back By the way,

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Speaker 1: in that first game, the winner of the NFC West

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Speaker 2: My vote, I could understand the other people's opinion.

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Speaker 6: All right, all comes down to one game, Yes, the

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Speaker 3: Always love that the Washington Commanders are on the road

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Speaker 2: Me, you got to make a decision sometimes when they're great,

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Speaker 3: And they matter more towards the end, especially week eighteen

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Speaker 3: in you know, either way, I digress. The Philadelphia Eagles

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Speaker 3: greg are seven point favorites. The over under is forty

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Speaker 3: one and a half. It will be a great game.

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Speaker 3: Kevin Harlan is on the call along with Ross Tucker

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Speaker 3: whow All, so they're showing the respect to the Birds.

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Speaker 3: We will enjoy watching it. Are the Birds gonna enjoy

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Speaker 1: Sick I think they'll enjoy it because they like to

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Speaker 1: know Ross Tucker is like in a fantasy camp this

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Speaker 2: With all of that in mind.

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Speaker 1: And the fact that they don't even can quote unquote

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Speaker 5: they have to go in and start prepping. This is

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Speaker 4: They start building analytics.

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Speaker 5: Packets and strategy packets and tape packets two weeks in advance,

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Speaker 1: Now they have to do some guesswork with who the

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Speaker 3: And especially and I don't know, you know, the variants

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Speaker 6: I think it was really a whole offense issue.

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Speaker 1: And guys like Lane Johnson, who they're expecting back for

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Speaker 5: Thanks for going on too, a new roster build model. Please,

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Speaker 3: Of God, we'll get some great calls in twenty twenty six. Brown,

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Speaker 3: thank you for your contributions. It is the game we'll

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Speaker 6: Wow over under is forty three and a half.

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Speaker 3: It's on ESPN and ABC because people will be able

442
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Speaker 3: to watch this game on broadcast television, which I appreciate.

443
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Speaker 3: Chris Fowler and Dan Orlovsky, along with Lewis Riddick on

444
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Speaker 3: the call, Big Spot do Baker and the Bucks stop

445
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Speaker 3: this tragic slide and prevent him from having that look

446
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Speaker 3: on his face that was on the sideline at the

447
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Speaker 3: end of the game against the Dolphins.

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Speaker 5: I don't know, I man, I've been watching these Bucks

449
00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:42,680
Speaker 5: games and it's been depressing, to be honest, because it's

450
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Speaker 5: painful clearly for him to be playing quarterback right now.

451
00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:50,080
Speaker 5: He's pressing too hard in some areas and making mistakes.

452
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Speaker 5: I don't know if there's things that are clouding his

453
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Speaker 5: judgment or if he can't move his body fully the

454
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Speaker 5: way that he wants to.

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Speaker 2: We don't go to we have great last week.

456
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Speaker 4: Really see.

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Speaker 5: I just some of the some of the torque that

458
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Speaker 5: he has to get in, like I just I didn't

459
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Speaker 5: think so. And I think some of the run, some

460
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Speaker 5: of the scrambling sure was fine, and he looked like

461
00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:12,960
Speaker 5: Baker on some of those pickups, but getting his full

462
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Speaker 5: leverage and his full body into some of those throws

463
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Speaker 5: and he was short on one and that was a

464
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Speaker 5: really bad throw.

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Speaker 4: And it just I don't know.

466
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Speaker 5: He seems like he's just in a lot of pain

467
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Speaker 5: to me, and I think this Panthers team, listen, I'm

468
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Speaker 5: I've given up trying to predict what they're gonna do

469
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Speaker 5: because they are so mercurial. If they get at least

470
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Speaker 5: one good half out of these receivers went which is

471
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Speaker 5: usually the case when they do win these games, uh,

472
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Speaker 5: because because I haven't seen it consistently from these receivers,

473
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Speaker 5: these Carolina receivers through the course of an.

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Speaker 4: Entire game week to week.

475
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Speaker 5: But if they get one good half out of these guys,

476
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Speaker 5: then I think that they win this game.

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Speaker 1: They just played, you know, two weeks ago, and that

478
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Speaker 1: game was pretty evenly played. I wonder if Todd Bowles

479
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Speaker 1: watches that Seattle tape and be like, I know, like

480
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Speaker 1: he's not like the big press man type of type

481
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Speaker 1: of guy, but man, they've got some good cornerbacks. We

482
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Speaker 1: can be physical against these wide receivers. Potentially they have

483
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Speaker 1: the people to potentially bully you. They benched Tike Smith

484
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Speaker 1: in the middle of that game. He was on the

485
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Speaker 1: wrong end of a couple bad plays as a rookie

486
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Speaker 1: against Miami, so that maybe they make an adjustment there.

487
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Speaker 1: And I did not know what to think about this game,

488
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Speaker 1: and then the Falcons did it. They won on Monday

489
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Speaker 1: Night Football, and then I realized I want mess, and

490
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Speaker 1: the mess is the Buccaneers winning this game so that

491
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Speaker 1: Saints Falcons can decide the division and so that the

492
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Speaker 1: Buccaneers will just have this strange, awkward moment at the

493
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Speaker 1: end where they didn't win the division, but they did

494
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Speaker 1: win the game, but they just have to wait until

495
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Speaker 1: tomorrow and start rooting on a Saints team that Jason

496
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Speaker 1: light was burying on Twitter not that long ago.

497
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Speaker 4: Feels like a microcross of their entire season.

498
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Speaker 2: It just feels like the most out.

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Speaker 1: I just want it for that, Sorry Panthers fans, and

500
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Speaker 1: I'll respect you if if it happens the other.

501
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Speaker 3: Way, well, they have the personnel to do it, I

502
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Speaker 3: don't know that they will. The Seahawks just crowding the

503
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Speaker 3: line of scrimmage and giving Bryce really no opportunity that

504
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Speaker 3: they weren't threatened deep to the extent where you could

505
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Speaker 3: see even on the broadcast tape, like ten guys they're

506
00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:24,240
Speaker 3: on the screen and it's like okay, So there's zero

507
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Speaker 3: respect for the Panthers to get anything deep. And maybe

508
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Speaker 3: that's how you approach things, but I don't think the

509
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Speaker 3: Bucks will come out of that.

510
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Speaker 1: They've also given up so many big plays canalis after

511
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Speaker 1: the game on Monday, rather had some interesting quotes where

512
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:38,880
Speaker 1: he was like Bryce had plenty of time in that game.

513
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Speaker 1: Kind of put it on Bryce a little bit, like

514
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Speaker 1: he was like offensive line was not an issue in

515
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:46,240
Speaker 1: that game, which fair enough, he did take ownership of

516
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,480
Speaker 1: I need to do a better job getting receivers open.

517
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:53,359
Speaker 1: McMillan specifically, they started in thirteen personnel that game, so

518
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Speaker 1: with three tight with the tight ends on the field,

519
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,960
Speaker 1: and Jatavian Sanders immediately got hurt, so maybe that mess

520
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Speaker 1: with him. He's going on. So that's one less weapon.

521
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 1: They are just short on weapons right now. And so man,

522
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 1: with the Buccaneers, considering the personnel that they have and

523
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:16,120
Speaker 1: the experience that they have the players throughout the roster, you.

524
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Speaker 2: Should you should win this game. Yeah, as bad as

525
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:22,560
Speaker 2: losing seven of eight is to get swept by the

526
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:26,080
Speaker 2: Panthers in a three week considering the rosters. That's that's bad.

527
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 2: That's bad coaching.

528
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Speaker 5: Here's why I think I like what you said about

529
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Speaker 5: walking up to the line of scrimmage and playing a

530
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Speaker 5: little bit more press. Man, Greg, with these DB's they

531
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,880
Speaker 5: can and they're the three of them are are playing well,

532
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:41,160
Speaker 5: and they're healthy. And the thing is about these Panthers

533
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 5: receivers is that Ted McMillan has having a great season,

534
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 5: but the first half of that game two weeks ago,

535
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,200
Speaker 5: he was being bullied, like he was just being bodied

536
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 5: around until he'd made an incredible catch and really muscled

537
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:57,600
Speaker 5: the ball for this catch. Like that's when the tone

538
00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 5: shifted for this entire group. And so I I think

539
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 5: with these Bucks, the thing that I think could convince

540
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 5: Ted Todd Bowles to break tendency a little bit is

541
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 5: how visibly and audibly disappointed the offense and the rest

542
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 5: of the defenses and how these games are going Mike

543
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,159
Speaker 5: Evans walking off the field and Mike Evans that the

544
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 5: captain walking off the field and disappointment these guys watching

545
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 5: in disbelief as the defense just gets pushed backwards.

546
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Speaker 4: Down the field at the some of the end of

547
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Speaker 4: these games.

548
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Speaker 5: I think that Todd Bowles also watches that and is like, man,

549
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Speaker 5: I got to get a spark back into this team.

550
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Speaker 1: They seem a little out of ideas for like on

551
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,439
Speaker 1: either side of like, because if they had them, they

552
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 1: would have they would have done it. And it's them right,

553
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:41,879
Speaker 1: like the same things keep happening They used to be

554
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,159
Speaker 1: a great run defense. They're not really that anymore. Levante

555
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,880
Speaker 1: David's getting picked on. They're playing JPP. Jason Pierre Paul

556
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Speaker 1: we hadn't mentioned this on this show is in the

557
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 1: NFL right now, playing for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. He

558
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,639
Speaker 1: played sixteen snaps last week. Did you know that Dion

559
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,200
Speaker 1: Jones is in the NFL and playing for the Tampa

560
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Speaker 1: Bay Buccaneers. Granted it was only two sta. I think

561
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:02,640
Speaker 1: he's mostly special things, but I was, I was googling.

562
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,960
Speaker 1: I was like, is that Deon Jones? On Jones Jones.

563
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 1: It's the same, It's the same guy. And yet we'll

564
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:13,879
Speaker 1: see Trent. Tristan Wurfs is expected to come back. I

565
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 1: do think it comes down to Baker if I disagree

566
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Speaker 1: with you guys a little bit, because I think he

567
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 1: has played pretty well the last couple of weeks except

568
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 1: for just a handful of like awful reps.

569
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Speaker 2: And I thought, you know, he.

570
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Speaker 1: Had some great throws last week and he's scrambling around, like,

571
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Speaker 1: I think it's possible for them to turn it around.

572
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 1: If not, we have one of the worst division winners

573
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Speaker 1: in a while. The Panthers have been outscored this season

574
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Speaker 1: by sixty seven points. Unless they had a huge result here,

575
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Speaker 1: it would be one of the worst division winners in

576
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Speaker 1: terms of point differential.

577
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Speaker 2: I think.

578
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Speaker 1: I think Baker and them can can get it going

579
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Speaker 1: for one game and then they can watch on Sunday

580
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Speaker 1: who goes to the playoffs.

581
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Speaker 3: And it would be easier for me to believe that

582
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:56,399
Speaker 3: if if not for weeks of the consecutive same issues

583
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Speaker 3: for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, where I'm thinking there is

584
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 3: some sort of Miyagi situation or like a Censu being

585
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:09,159
Speaker 3: or just general alien healing for Baker Mayfield, whatever's causing

586
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 3: the problem for the past several weeks.

587
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Speaker 6: I don't know that it goes away.

588
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 1: But they've been in all these games. They've actually lost

589
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:16,880
Speaker 1: four straight by I think four points or less. They're

590
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,639
Speaker 1: one of the first teams ever to So it's just

591
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 1: been these late game vibes, and to be fair, the

592
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 1: Panthers are the teams that has.

593
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 5: The late game, but yeah, the late game vibes and

594
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,919
Speaker 5: also the swing the luck. The swings have gone often

595
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 5: in the Panthers direction for the positive yes through the season,

596
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 5: and the Bucks have seemed to lose their.

597
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Speaker 2: Luck bear, which is I don't know what to think,

598
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:38,919
Speaker 2: but I know what I'm rooting for.

599
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 6: We had theo Weieste junior running down the front himself

600
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 6: last week.

601
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Speaker 2: I'm rooting for mess.

602
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 1: I'm rooting for the ultimate NFC South moment, which we

603
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:50,120
Speaker 1: will talk about a little after the break and get

604
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:53,160
Speaker 1: to the rest of the NFC sleep.

605
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 2: Back on NFL Daily every Week eighteen.

606
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Speaker 1: It's a little similar, and it's piecing through how different

607
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 1: coaches are talking about whether they were playing their starters

608
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,400
Speaker 1: or not now. Sean McVay, after losing that Monday night game,

609
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 1: said about his rams, we need to play, we need

610
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 1: to play better football. So after resting starters in Week eighteen,

611
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 1: two years in a row, I believe he says they

612
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:34,399
Speaker 1: will play now. Just saying they're playing, especially in an

613
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,639
Speaker 1: emotional moment right after a game, is not necessarily the

614
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 1: same thing as they're playing the entire game. So that

615
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 1: could be maybe where they split the baby, as it

616
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 1: were against Arizona.

617
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Speaker 3: And giving us an opportunity to facilitate one of our

618
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 3: favorite pastimes in the newsroom, asking why Matthew Stafford is

619
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 3: still in and if he were, he would be in

620
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Speaker 3: the game against the Arizona Cardinals, who were at Sofi

621
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Speaker 3: Stadium against the Rams, were a favorite about seven and

622
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 3: a half points the over under his forty six and

623
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 3: a half Kenny Albert, Jonathan Vilma Megan A. Levi on

624
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 3: the call, it seems our friends in Vegas, Greg are

625
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 3: begging that these starters will not play us again for

626
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 3: a good amount of time, considering the way.

627
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Speaker 1: No, they're hedging, I mean they're they're in between. This

628
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 1: is not It's never a week to really put down

629
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 1: your hard earned money because this stuff is unpredictable.

630
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 2: Maybe any of them we're not allowed to.

631
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Speaker 1: And that's made my life much more stress free because man,

632
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Speaker 1: I don't know, I could see I could see him

633
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 1: having a change of thought during the week and playing

634
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 1: a couple drives, feeling good about those couple drives, and

635
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 1: then making a change. But who knows, Maybe maybe he

636
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 1: will just play all the way to win, because obviously

637
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 1: they are not happy. They haven't played a complete game

638
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 1: and too long. They did beat the Cardinals though, forty

639
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 1: five to seventeen a month ago, so that was not

640
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 1: too long.

641
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, a little late stat padding happening in that one too,

642
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 5: by the Cardinals offense.

643
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Speaker 4: Okay, So here's the thing.

644
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 5: This is how Sean McVay walks up to the line

645
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 5: of saying he's pissed at his players without actually ever

646
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 5: saying he's pissed at his players, like he will never

647
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 5: the closest the only time he ever walked over that

648
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 5: line was the Jared Goff fiasco at the end of

649
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 5: that twenty twenty season. So this is basically him telling

650
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 5: us what he thinks without actually saying it. The other

651
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 5: thing here is he can hedge quite a bit behind

652
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 5: the fact that a lot of these guys are injured

653
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 5: in the first place. So the Rob Havenstein's, the Aleric Jackson's,

654
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:39,479
Speaker 5: the Kevin Dotson's, the Davante Adams who quote unquote, according

655
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 5: to the broadcast this week, was running the full route

656
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 5: tree but wasn't playing.

657
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Speaker 2: I mean you could see it when they showed that

658
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Speaker 2: he looked great.

659
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 4: He looks great.

660
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 5: He looks also like there is no pain at all,

661
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 5: like he looks awesome. That's the thing is he knows

662
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 5: he can say that because he can also hide behind

663
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 5: the fact that the guys who need to be playing

664
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 5: for them in the playoffs and win football games for

665
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 5: them and are the reason part of the reason they

666
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 5: win football games.

667
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 4: Are actually going to be able.

668
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 5: They're going to be able to hide behind the injury report, say, well,

669
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 5: those guys were probably weren't going to play in.

670
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 2: The Stafford like Stafford and the guys.

671
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, Elliot, and I would and I would say I

672
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 5: doubt they are in the game for very long. Jimmy Garoppolo,

673
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 5: I know, is like antsy to get get a couple handoffs,

674
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 5: you know, And this to me is more him commenting

675
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 5: on how what he thinks about his defense. It's still

676
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 5: a relatively young group, and there's been a couple of

677
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 5: times this season where perhaps this defense is reading its

678
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 5: own press a little bit too much metaphorically speaking, like

679
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 5: this can be a dominant group. They can, they can

680
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 5: be coached really well, but it always seems like when

681
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 5: the hype on them is at its highest and Chris

682
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 5: Shula is being talked about for head coaching jobs and

683
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 5: all of these things, that's when they take a step

684
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 5: back and allow some big time breaks and explosive plays. Again,

685
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 5: So that's where I think he wants them to play

686
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 5: because he wants them to stay juiced up. And I also,

687
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 5: I know this team well and I also think that

688
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 5: they don't think that a bye week, even though it

689
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 5: helps a lot of people get healthy who probably won't

690
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 5: play this week anyway, I think they would prefer to

691
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 5: not have time downtime. Even a mini by they came

692
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 5: out so flat. I just think they're wired as a

693
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 5: group that they just need to not overthink things and

694
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 5: just keep playing. That's really how I think they're all wired.

695
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 4: Starting at the top.

696
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 1: Patriots did that a lot, and then they didn't do it.

697
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 1: It kind of depended on what he thought that the

698
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 1: team needed in that season, So I do think it's different.

699
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 1: They also and this isn't playing into I think that

700
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 1: was all excellent. It's spot on. Actually the Sean McVay

701
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 1: I did not say actually will know in this game,

702
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 1: quote unquote if they care about getting the five seed,

703
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 1: they'll know before the game starts whether they have a

704
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 1: chance at it or not. They should be rooting for

705
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 1: the Seahawks to beat the forty nine ers. If the

706
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 1: Seahawks beat the forty nine ers, the Rams have a

707
00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 1: chance to move up a spot, and I would think

708
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 1: they'd rather be a five seed.

709
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 2: It's just a higher seed you have a.

710
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 1: Chance of hosting ANFC championship game potentially against the forty

711
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 1: nine ers, if the two of them would make it

712
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 1: and you'd play the NFC South winner, which would be

713
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 1: either the Bucks or the Panthers. Either way, that's going

714
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 1: to be I think, on paper, an easier matchup than

715
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 1: the sixth seed has.

716
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 3: And to me, the most functional thing that you have

717
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 3: if you're playing guys in this game is an opportunity

718
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 3: to once you know what you need to game plan

719
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 3: and evaluate how the guys were playing in a particular

720
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 3: way that you want to deploy them when you get

721
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 3: into the postseason. But I also think if doing all

722
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 3: this to try to get a first round by has

723
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 3: value because you don't have to play that game, then

724
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 3: here's a game where you don't have to play.

725
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 1: Right and play Quorham got banged up like and Quorum

726
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 1: and Kyraen Williams went crazy in the first game. That

727
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 1: was the game where they had more yards in thirteen

728
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,719
Speaker 1: personnel than any team in NFL history by like one

729
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 1: hundred plus yards or something. So they just got heavy.

730
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 1: And they do have plenty of tight ends, so they

731
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 1: can play all of them, I guess as much as

732
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 1: they want. But yes, currently they are in the sixth seed,

733
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 1: but they could move up to the five with little

734
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 1: help on Saturday from Seattle.

735
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 3: Another team that doesn't necessarily need the results to go

736
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,360
Speaker 3: a particular way, but the Green Bay Packers on the

737
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:17,319
Speaker 3: road at Brian Flores's defense to the Minnesota Vikings. Not

738
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,240
Speaker 3: to limit KOC, just want to highlight what the Vikings

739
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 3: defense has done yes down the stretch. Here they are

740
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:26,360
Speaker 3: six and a half point favorites over under is thirty

741
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 3: six and a half.

742
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 6: It's a CBS game.

743
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:32,520
Speaker 3: Spiroditas, Adam Argletta and added Kikomwala are there on the call.

744
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 3: Gret how how much is Matt Lafleur interested in being

745
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 3: a part of this participation?

746
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 1: Not at all, And he's made that clear. He's going

747
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 1: to rest them and that's why it's early in the

748
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,320
Speaker 1: week and these things will change. That's six and a half.

749
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 1: I was pointing out, like some of these games that

750
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 1: stay away because they're unpredictable, I think there's a big

751
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 1: enough chance that Clayton Tune is starting this game in

752
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,720
Speaker 1: terms of I kind of expect Clayton Tune to possibly

753
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 1: start this game that that's not enough against a Brian

754
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 1: Flores defense. The crazy thing here, because I don't think

755
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 1: this game really matters unless you're holding Minnesota over eight

756
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 1: and a half wins on the year. At the last second,

757
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,960
Speaker 1: they're going to sneak in for me, Let's go Vikings.

758
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 1: Unless that's the case. The most interesting thing about this

759
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 1: game is that it could be Brian Flores's last with

760
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 1: Minnesota against.

761
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:28,399
Speaker 5: Icy But is I think probably not the way Kevin

762
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 5: O'Connell wanted or expected this to go, would be to

763
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 5: be answering questions about this in the last week of

764
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 5: the season, versus talking about a postseason run, versus talking

765
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 5: about all the things that they hope they would be

766
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:43,439
Speaker 5: talking about. Instead, they're talking about how Brian Flores has

767
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 5: no remaining years left on his contract with Minnesota.

768
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:48,320
Speaker 4: He will be a free agent.

769
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 2: Sure, that was purposeful season by him.

770
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 5: And the thing that I find very very interesting is

771
00:35:56,560 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 5: this defense is also top heavy into terms of its

772
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 5: age and experience, partially by design because you need to

773
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 5: have players who have seen a lot of football in

774
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 5: order to be able to run this quality and caliber

775
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 5: of complex defense. But I do think that this is

776
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 5: really interesting to me because what if, say Matt Lafleur

777
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 5: loses Jeff Haffley to a head coaching job this season.

778
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 4: Who do you think would.

779
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 5: Be the most fun defensive coordinator for the Green Bay

780
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 5: Packers with a healthy Micah Parsons next season, But the

781
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 5: man who will be staring them down on the opposite sideline.

782
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 2: He could get a head coaching job.

783
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 5: That's and not to discount that either to say, I

784
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 5: do also think he'll be getting head coaching interviews.

785
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 1: I think he might get a head coaching job, but

786
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:46,439
Speaker 1: if not, I think he has had a better free

787
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:48,959
Speaker 1: agent year than Alec Pierce. I mean, he could set

788
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 1: new boundaries for what coordinated he's going to be making.

789
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 4: Vic Fangio, you.

790
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:55,320
Speaker 1: Can't tell me that, like Brian Flores, isn't worth more

791
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 1: than a lot of the lower tier head coaches. Like

792
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:03,360
Speaker 1: It's just it's so proven what he's gonna bring. And

793
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,840
Speaker 1: the Cowboys have been mentioned, like reported as like a

794
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 1: possible suitor, but I don't I don't think they'd be

795
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:10,840
Speaker 1: the only one in Minnesota. You would think like the

796
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 1: tie would go to Minnesota, but I don't know what

797
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,359
Speaker 1: the situation there is, and they would probably step up

798
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 1: and match whatever crazy offers he's getting elsewhere. And it's

799
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 1: like great for buying Flores if that happened.

800
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 3: Well, I think the personnel and again like yeah, some

801
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 3: of them are elevated in age, but you talk about

802
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:26,799
Speaker 3: a guy like they drafted a couple of years ago

803
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 3: in Dallas Turner who can rush. You know, people slighted

804
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:31,320
Speaker 3: him for the his ability to rush with his ability

805
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,320
Speaker 3: to drop is a big part of being in this defense.

806
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 3: And Andrew Van Ginkle, I think the tie is with

807
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 3: these guys that he's been able to coach, yah and

808
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 3: also with the Vikings hopefully polling up the money to

809
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 3: make him highest coordinator in football because he deserves it.

810
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:49,839
Speaker 3: And you know, to see this whole thing work to

811
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,319
Speaker 3: the extent that it could. Whereas you know, you go

812
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 3: other places, especially if we're talking about a place like Dallas,

813
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 3: is Brian Flora is gonna be able to have the

814
00:37:57,920 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 3: input to get the That.

815
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 2: Doesn't seem like a great No. I also a green baby.

816
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 5: There's there are gonna be some bad head coaching jobs

817
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 5: available for sure, And that's the thing. I don't want

818
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 5: Brian Flores for all of his talent and ability. I

819
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 5: don't this is selfish, but I don't want him to

820
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 5: go somewhere that sets him up for failure. I would

821
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:18,839
Speaker 5: love to see him continue to cook these offenses up

822
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:22,320
Speaker 5: and down the field and make the most money possible.

823
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, this team, I personally if this team like to

824
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 4: see it.

825
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 1: Can get better quarterback play. They're in healthier and a

826
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 1: better offensive line, like they're not far away. JJ McCarthy,

827
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 1: by the way, might be coming back for this game.

828
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 1: I think they would like that to happen. Speaking of

829
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,800
Speaker 1: those Cowboys, I do not think we even need the

830
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:41,839
Speaker 1: full three minutes on this game. I don't know, maybe

831
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 1: we do.

832
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 3: The Cowboys are three and a half point favorites against

833
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 3: Jackson Dart and the New York Giants is on Fox,

834
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 3: Kevin Coogler, Moose Johnston calling the game for his old team,

835
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:53,839
Speaker 3: and Alison Williams. Again it's three minutes in parentheses.

836
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 1: Okay, I said that, And now there are some interesting

837
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 1: things here. They cut Trevon Diggs today.

838
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, news we have for the little news.

839
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 2: That was weird.

840
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 1: Well no, I mean not weird that it happened, but

841
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,760
Speaker 1: weird that it happened. To do it before Week eighteen

842
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,240
Speaker 1: is kind of a shoving the player's.

843
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 2: Nose in it.

844
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 5: Well, I also think it makes it more difficult doing

845
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 5: it now. It seems like it's been simmering or building

846
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 5: towards this for a while. I think it makes it

847
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 5: more difficult for a team to immediately claim him on waivers.

848
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 5: Nobody sample, nobody would, right, No, that's what I'm saying.

849
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 5: That's do it now because nobody's going to. But then

850
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 5: you know, you have an on an offloading period through

851
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 5: the entire off season. That's the thing. This has been

852
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,919
Speaker 5: simmering for a while, since training camp, since before since

853
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 5: last year.

854
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's that's the thing is.

855
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 5: I think the timing element of is just to make

856
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 5: it so he can't, you know, blame just immediately get

857
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,959
Speaker 5: scooped up by somebody else. And that's again to your point,

858
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 5: it's a little bit of a haha.

859
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:49,359
Speaker 2: We win.

860
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:51,879
Speaker 1: What would what would prevent somebody from I just don't

861
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 1: think they're going to like his contract. I'll look at it,

862
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 1: but coming off of a you know, he hasn't been

863
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 1: able to show that he is one hundred percent healthy,

864
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 1: and then you have to take on the contract, which

865
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 1: I don't think he has any guaranteed money into next year,

866
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 1: So you're right, I mean, his base salary this year

867
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 1: was only eight and a.

868
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 2: Half million dollars. It's hard with guaranteed money.

869
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 4: I think it's hard.

870
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree, But I think what I what's hard

871
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:17,360
Speaker 5: with a player is coming off an injury. Is you

872
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:20,359
Speaker 5: you want to before you make a decision like that,

873
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 5: you do want to see what the actual like physical

874
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:27,160
Speaker 5: return is like with how ready that player is.

875
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 1: The only other little thing for this game is the

876
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 1: Giants do have a path to having the number one

877
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 1: overall pick. Here is what they need. They're at the

878
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 1: two spots. Seven teams could get as high as two,

879
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,799
Speaker 1: so if they won, they could really miss themselves up.

880
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 2: But here's what they need. They need to lose.

881
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 1: Of course, they need the Raiders to win against the Chiefs,

882
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 1: and then they need two of the following teams to

883
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 1: lose out of four Seattle or win out of four Seattle, Atlanta, Cleveland,

884
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 1: and Chicago. If two of those four teams won and

885
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 1: the Raiders won, then the Giantians have the number one

886
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 1: overall pick.

887
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 2: So all hope is not lost. If that's what you're

888
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:05,240
Speaker 2: looking for.

889
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 6: Looking for draft abolition.

890
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 2: Yes, I like you want do you want a lottery

891
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 2: of what do you want? Just not this.

892
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:15,319
Speaker 5: I wouldn't want to be claimed. If I were treeve

893
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 5: On Diggs, I'd want to pick my next spot.

894
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, hopefully you know the capacity to choose that.

895
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 3: Maybe somebody will at least express some interest.

896
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 1: At this point, Abdul Carter, by the way, is publicly

897
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:31,320
Speaker 1: stumping for defensive Rookie of the Year, which I applied.

898
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:32,760
Speaker 6: That's Coolant, let's.

899
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:34,439
Speaker 2: Turn this into it like an Oscars race?

900
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 6: Is it not already?

901
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 4: Also?

902
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 5: I just this is very loose reporting here by me,

903
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 5: but great reporting by ESPN. A team would still have

904
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 5: to pay him about almost five hundred K just for

905
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 5: this week if he's on their roster, regardless of whether

906
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 5: or not he's active.

907
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 4: That's it, I know.

908
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 5: But right now teams are right down to the wire

909
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,359
Speaker 5: looking at special teams, moves and guys who are going

910
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,399
Speaker 5: to be unhealthy, healthy, whatever, Just some context, that's all.

911
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 6: Let's get to a game that could really.

912
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 4: We used all three minutes.

913
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 6: We did it well, there was stuff, There was stuff.

914
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 3: I don't think anybody was like, ah, they went too

915
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:12,800
Speaker 3: long on tanky staff well except Eric maybe.

916
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:13,840
Speaker 5: No.

917
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 1: Eric famously just wants like a twenty five minute show.

918
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 7: Greg set these times I didn't set the times, Okay,

919
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 7: I don't know.

920
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 4: You seem to. Did you pick the font and the color?

921
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 2: Though he did. That's just so you can say that

922
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 2: they are synced up. There's three special seven minute games

923
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:29,839
Speaker 2: and three three minute games.

924
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 3: I'm gonna lobby for this one to be five minutes

925
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 3: because considering what could have taken place before this game, Jordan,

926
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:38,800
Speaker 3: the New Orleans Saints, and the Atlanta Falcons could be

927
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 3: playing to decide the division for other teams. The Falcons

928
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 3: favored by three points off their Monday Night football win

929
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 3: the over Unders forty three and a half. Chris Myers

930
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 3: and Mark Laret and Jin Hale are on the call.

931
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 3: Can he the Jedi Council the mon Stars that are

932
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 3: the Falcons once they are eliminated stop the red hot

933
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:00,720
Speaker 3: New Orleans the two best teams in the AH.

934
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:05,800
Speaker 5: This is so weird and disappointing, yet also equally fun

935
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 5: because you see what they could be and they just

936
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 5: never were until it was too late.

937
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 4: I just love it. I think I.

938
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 5: Think beating the Rams in an Island game, the team

939
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 5: that came into the game being talked about is the

940
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 5: best team in football. I think that helped Raheem Morris

941
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,399
Speaker 5: quite a bit in terms of the job security. Now,

942
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 5: they may make moves still, he may make other moves

943
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 5: as well, They may change their front office, all of

944
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:33,319
Speaker 5: those types of things. But winning like that, finishing the

945
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,359
Speaker 5: season like this and winning a game like.

946
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:37,919
Speaker 1: That, you gotta win this week though, then too by

947
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 1: that logic if it's just.

948
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 5: It's not the same logic Greg, because it's not the

949
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:46,359
Speaker 5: same caliber and quality of team. This is a very

950
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,840
Speaker 5: red hot Saints team, sure, but it's I hate to

951
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:50,439
Speaker 5: say it because I know that the listeners are gonna

952
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 5: I roll, and they should. This is a really obnoxious

953
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 5: statement I'm gonna make. But if you beat a Sean

954
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:59,360
Speaker 5: McVay team in primetime with the MVP caliber quarterback and

955
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 5: a lot of it you do on defense at first

956
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:04,880
Speaker 5: to help start the offense off the right way, then yeah,

957
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 5: I think you have a little bit, a little bit

958
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 5: more of a cushion than you had.

959
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 1: I just think even the way that game flowed, you

960
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 1: sort of saw the strengths, you saw the weaknesses. Like

961
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 1: Raheem Morris is one of my least favorite guys to

962
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 1: watch in terms of game management. They've had no clue

963
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 1: what to do offensively, and the way they handled that

964
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 1: game at the end, they were kind of lucky to escape.

965
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 4: Had a good challenge here.

966
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, hearing Matt Ryan is, you know, possibly involved in

967
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:27,840
Speaker 1: becoming part of the front office. That's obviously not a

968
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:30,839
Speaker 1: great sign. So I I just think any owner that's

969
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 1: capricious enough to change his mind based on these last

970
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 1: four games, then this game is going to matter too.

971
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 1: Big time rivalry. You got Kirk Kirk playing for his future,

972
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 1: You got Tyler Shuck playing for the offensive Rookie of

973
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 1: the year potentially, you got Raheem Morris coaching for his future.

974
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:51,760
Speaker 1: Like I love it, I need it. And they probably

975
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 1: are the two best teams in the NFC South right now.

976
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 1: I mean they've they've just beaten the other teams, so

977
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 1: I gotta give them credit. They're both they're both on

978
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 1: their winning streak. You got the stay Sons. You got

979
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:06,320
Speaker 1: Honey Badger on Twitter given Brian and Staley some side

980
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 1: eye because saying that he wanted to bench like Cam

981
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 1: Jordan and to Mario Davis earlier in the year or something.

982
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 1: He's like, Yeah, these guys that he wanted to bench

983
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:16,760
Speaker 1: are the ones that are playing the best.

984
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 2: I'm just like, give it all to me. This is

985
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:20,360
Speaker 2: what the nflast South is all about.

986
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 4: I love mess.

987
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 3: This is great our season long sons discussion. Who would

988
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 3: have thought it was this day song the whole time,

989
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 3: the entire time.

990
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 4: This is some Scooby Douche right here.

991
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:34,839
Speaker 3: Well, honestly, because there were large stretches of Monday Night

992
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 3: where I felt not that because you have to give

993
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 3: the ball to Jon as much as if Bijon is

994
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 3: within seventy five percent of himself being tired or not,

995
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 3: you get them the ball. There were large stretches were

996
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 3: kirk Cousins. It wasn't just play calling that they were

997
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 3: hiding Kirk Cousins not to prevent what could have possibly happened.

998
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 1: There, and it almost did a few times. He just

999
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 1: threw it in the middle of the field.

1000
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:58,240
Speaker 4: They were masking kirk Cousins.

1001
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 6: Yeah probably, yeah, I would say that.

1002
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:04,360
Speaker 3: And you know, that's what makes it difficult within the

1003
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 3: Staly songs to be completely confident in this because the

1004
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 3: shuckle lave situation is so hot right now and I

1005
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 3: reckon that's what Jaterrell did against Pooka. You know, the

1006
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 3: past breakup of the year preventing the pass catch of

1007
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 3: the year where it's going to be great football. And

1008
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 3: I know we'm align the division, but I'm really looking

1009
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 3: forward to now.

1010
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:26,399
Speaker 2: I really am too.

1011
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 1: And it's I challenge anyone to come up with a

1012
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:34,240
Speaker 1: different scenario that's been ever like this. But I'm pretty sure.

1013
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 1: And this requires the Bucks to win on Saturday. To

1014
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 1: be clear, Bucks got to win that game. Panthers are

1015
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:44,359
Speaker 1: in if they beat the Bucks. If the Bucks win

1016
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 1: that game, There's never been I don't think another situation

1017
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 1: like this in the history of the NFL. We're entering

1018
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 1: the game, the two teams are playing each other to

1019
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:58,359
Speaker 1: decide the division championship, and neither one of them can

1020
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 1: win the division. And the fact that it's the Falcon Saints,

1021
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:04,880
Speaker 1: the best rivalry in the league that have been stumping forever,

1022
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 1: is the best like rivalry and the dumbest rivalry, the

1023
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 1: rivalry that brought us, you know, Jamis Winston, Jamal Williams,

1024
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 1: you know, making Dennis Alan madd a couple of years ago,

1025
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 1: and so many other great moments.

1026
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:19,319
Speaker 2: It's just it's just perfect. I need it. I need

1027
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:20,879
Speaker 2: the Bucks to win, win that game.

1028
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 4: Dampa happy for Saints fans.

1029
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 1: Yes, but you know what this you know what's great

1030
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 1: about it too, is like, Okay, the Saints are going

1031
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:30,319
Speaker 1: to be the Bucks proxy because if the Saints win,

1032
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 1: then the Bucks, you know, win the division. And this

1033
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 1: all is assuming Bucks win on Saturday, and the Falcons

1034
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:38,720
Speaker 1: are going to be the Panthers proxy, and the Panthers fans.

1035
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 2: Will be rooting for the Falcons.

1036
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 1: The thing that's cool about it is this game still

1037
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 1: means a lot yeah to the Saints and the Falcons fans,

1038
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 1: especially the Saints who would love to go into the

1039
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 1: offseason with this big time winning streak and Shuck playing well.

1040
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:55,360
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what if they lost this game to

1041
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 1: the Falcons and Shuck throws a couple interceptions, It's kind

1042
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:01,720
Speaker 1: of like a high of State Michigan where it ruins

1043
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 1: a little bit of everything that happened over the last month.

1044
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:09,919
Speaker 2: Well, Ryan day Action, you know, I'm assigning myself this game.

1045
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 2: I didn't. I didn't care, like we were doing the

1046
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 2: Shook the Shook assignments earlier. I was like, he can

1047
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:18,880
Speaker 2: have whatever he wants, just give me the Falcons. That

1048
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 2: is the NFC. We went through an order. Uh, let's

1049
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 2: go and take a break.

1050
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 1: But when we're back on the other side, we're going

1051
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 1: to go through AFC seeding one through seven, biggest.

1052
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:31,280
Speaker 2: Game of the week on Sunday night.

1053
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 1: Back on NFL Daily. Not as much drama in the

1054
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:52,840
Speaker 1: AFC overall. They've got only one seven minute game, so

1055
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 1: that's going to be fourth up. That's the big AFC

1056
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 1: North battle and frankly the battle at the top for

1057
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:01,400
Speaker 1: the top couples. The drama has.

1058
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:03,839
Speaker 2: Been kind of removed, I would say over the last

1059
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 2: few days.

1060
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 3: The Los Angeles Chargers at the Denver Broncos, who are

1061
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 3: favored by twelve and a half points over under is

1062
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 3: thirty seven and a half. It's Jim and Tony and Tracy.

1063
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:19,880
Speaker 3: It is CBS one. We spend five minutes discussing Greg.

1064
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,320
Speaker 6: Maybe we won't. Why is it twelve and a half points?

1065
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:25,960
Speaker 1: Because Trey Lance is starting? That's enough disrespect. Yeah, but

1066
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 1: it's not just about Trey Lance. The fact that Trey

1067
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:32,800
Speaker 1: Lance is starting indicates Keenan Allen is probably yeah sitting

1068
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 1: and you can't sit everyone but Khalil Mack and Quintinton

1069
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:39,800
Speaker 1: Johnston and I think it makes a lot of sense.

1070
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 1: I'm actually proud of Jim Jim Harbaugh.

1071
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 2: For doing it.

1072
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:46,360
Speaker 4: I of the tough guy and get through.

1073
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:48,799
Speaker 1: It, and I really think it could help them. All

1074
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 1: that matters for them is winning the playoff game. And

1075
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:57,359
Speaker 1: because the Patriots, who are their most likely opponent, are

1076
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 1: going to be playing to win on Sunday, I think

1077
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 1: that's a little bit of an advantage here. And most importantly,

1078
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 1: Eve not even thinking about who their opponent. It's just

1079
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 1: an advantage for them because this is a team that

1080
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:13,319
Speaker 1: has a lot of injuries and they they've done great

1081
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:16,919
Speaker 1: this year, but there's no sense in fighting just to fight.

1082
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:19,759
Speaker 1: And this was gonna be a tough one anyways. And

1083
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:22,719
Speaker 1: now you can let poor Trey Lance step out there.

1084
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 1: We have another game here. It's just like these sacrificial

1085
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 1: lambs a little bit. Although Trey Lance looked good enough

1086
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 1: in the preseason that I'm curious to watch him.

1087
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:32,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, And really, what I think will they'll need to

1088
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 5: do a lot is move his spot. You've seen some

1089
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:37,720
Speaker 5: of the Justin Herbert games. We're trying to mitigate pressure

1090
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:39,879
Speaker 5: on Justin Herbert. A lot of the same principles will

1091
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 5: apply because Trey Lance can move and can run these

1092
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:44,840
Speaker 5: like long bootlegs and all of these things that just

1093
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:47,279
Speaker 5: help change the launch point and make it hard for

1094
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 5: defenses to really get after him the way that they

1095
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 5: want to.

1096
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:54,399
Speaker 4: The Broncos, I mean, they.

1097
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 5: Are out here trying to make statement after statement, and

1098
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:01,919
Speaker 5: especially with the Texans surging the way that they are

1099
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 5: in the AFC and understanding the possible stakes clinching the

1100
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:09,239
Speaker 5: one seed in a first round by with a win here,

1101
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 5: it has Broncos put foot on gas Chargers just say okay,

1102
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 5: all right, you do you everyone stay healthy and kind

1103
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:21,799
Speaker 5: of just ease on by.

1104
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:25,360
Speaker 1: And it's great luck for them Denver that you know,

1105
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:28,760
Speaker 1: the Chargers aren't playing for the division. That's the outcome

1106
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 1: of losing to the Texans. It does set up a

1107
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:35,320
Speaker 1: weird scenario that there's nothing they can do about. But

1108
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 1: by the time they play again, it'll be four weeks

1109
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 1: since they really played like another top level team. Four

1110
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:45,800
Speaker 1: weeks is a long time. They played the Jaguars. Jaguars

1111
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 1: won that game. Then you have a Chiefs game. That's

1112
00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 1: a real football game. So I'm kind of diminishing the

1113
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:51,440
Speaker 1: Chiefs here, but that's not like a real you know,

1114
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:54,400
Speaker 1: that's not a playoff caliber opponent. Then you have this

1115
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:57,320
Speaker 1: week where you're playing backups, then you have a week off.

1116
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 1: It's just an interesting way that they'll approach, you know,

1117
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 1: the playoffs, and I think ultimately it's a it's a

1118
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 1: good thing to just advance the divisional round. But they're

1119
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 1: just gonna have to manage that and figure out how

1120
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 1: to start that divisional round game with guns blazing, because

1121
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 1: it'll have been a little while but between serious games.

1122
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 3: And at least the fact that it is Trey Lance

1123
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:22,400
Speaker 3: and maybe we get to see some new and innovative

1124
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:25,720
Speaker 3: things from Greg Roman and something else for the Broncos

1125
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:28,840
Speaker 3: to hold their attention to because it's a really good.

1126
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 2: Team, right.

1127
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 1: That's the thing is, they're still professionals who are trying.

1128
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 1: So it's not like it's going to just be like

1129
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 1: a Presecon game by any means.

1130
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:36,520
Speaker 2: They were.

1131
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 5: It was totally different scenario because they were trying to

1132
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 5: get into the playoffs last year. Wasn't that like a

1133
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 5: thirty eight zero But kicking against Rest in Kansas City,

1134
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 5: I know, different scenario, but like they not that different.

1135
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 5: They get up for these games, is what I'm saying.

1136
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 5: Has no problem.

1137
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, pretty similar. I mean, yeah, I guess last time

1138
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:54,880
Speaker 1: it was just to get in.

1139
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 4: But yeah, time, that's what I'm saying.

1140
00:52:57,560 --> 00:52:58,240
Speaker 2: You know, the Broncos.

1141
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 1: One thing I had an eye on in that last

1142
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:03,920
Speaker 1: week was they lost their center what's his name, Wattenberg

1143
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:07,799
Speaker 1: for the season, who's been great, and it seems like

1144
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 1: it seemed like they didn't miss a thing. For what

1145
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 1: it's worth, pff grated his back. You know, the guy

1146
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:18,839
Speaker 1: who came in Forsyth very high. And if Sean Payton

1147
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 1: has a secret sauce, it is identifying coaching up interior

1148
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 1: offensive line. All time great chargers, all time great at that.

1149
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 1: So this guy's been in the program for two years

1150
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 1: and like there, he has been great in his career

1151
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 1: at just replacing these guys on the offensive line and

1152
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 1: then being fantastic. Hey, so it's Greg. The show is

1153
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 1: about to get to the Patriots. Dolphinstock the Week eighteen

1154
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:47,959
Speaker 1: preview talk, but we taped it before we knew that

1155
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 1: the Patriots defensive tackle Christian Barmore is facing a misdemeanor

1156
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:55,839
Speaker 1: domestic assault charge. Also, we were looking for clarity at

1157
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 1: the time for how the team's going to address the

1158
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 1: criminal charges that Stefan Diggs is facing. I just want

1159
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:04,480
Speaker 1: to make sure we got this into the show, so

1160
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 1: let's handle these two charges separately. The Patriots released the

1161
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 1: statement that they are aware of reports regarding a pending

1162
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 1: February arraignment involving Kristen Barmour, which stems from an alleged

1163
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 1: domestic incident that occurred in August. The Patriots were made

1164
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:24,360
Speaker 1: aware at the time of the incident and informed the

1165
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 1: NFL in a timely manner. The matter remains part of

1166
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:31,879
Speaker 1: an ongoing legal process and it goes on from there

1167
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 1: end quote. Of course, Barmore has been practicing and playing,

1168
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 1: you know when healthy throughout the course of the season.

1169
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:44,759
Speaker 1: I don't know if that means you can assume that

1170
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 1: he will continue to based on the news becoming public,

1171
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 1: we will have to see how they address it. Stefan Diggs,

1172
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 1: their wide receiver, is facing strangulation and other criminal charges

1173
00:54:57,200 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 1: in connection with an incident that happened early in the month.

1174
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:06,920
Speaker 1: According to police, the charges include felony strangulation or suffocation

1175
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:11,840
Speaker 1: in misdemeanor, assault and battery, and the Patriots again released

1176
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 1: a similar statement the day previous that they're aware of

1177
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:20,280
Speaker 1: the allegations. Stefan informed the organization that he categorically denies

1178
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:25,320
Speaker 1: the allegations. Quote, we support Stefan, and they say from

1179
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:29,760
Speaker 1: there that they're going to continue to gather information. In

1180
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:33,800
Speaker 1: both cases. You know, the NFL confirmed through a statement

1181
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 1: that they were aware of the charges. Obviously, these are

1182
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:45,799
Speaker 1: horrific allegations. They are bigger than football and they're going

1183
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:49,760
Speaker 1: to be taken seriously. We don't know how the Patriots

1184
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 1: or the league is going to address them in the

1185
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:56,359
Speaker 1: short term when it comes to Diggs and far more. Again,

1186
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:58,279
Speaker 1: it's bigger than football and we're going to have to

1187
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:03,440
Speaker 1: just follow the situation and how they want to address it.

1188
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 1: In the meantime, we'll get back to the football talk

1189
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 1: about the Patriots and Dolphins.

1190
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 2: That's going to happen on the field this Sunday.

1191
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:13,880
Speaker 3: The other half of that number one seed in the

1192
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 3: AFC equation, the oddsmaker as showing a little more respect

1193
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:20,680
Speaker 3: to Quinn youwers, who've got to win against the Tampa

1194
00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:24,080
Speaker 3: Bay Buccaneers last week the Miami Dolphins at the New

1195
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 3: England Patriots, who are favored by ten and a half points.

1196
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 3: The over under is forty five and a half. Joe Davis,

1197
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:32,960
Speaker 3: g reag and Pam Oliver on the call, that the

1198
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:37,760
Speaker 3: two points of respect for Queen yours, can Quin yours

1199
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:41,399
Speaker 3: put a put the fear Jordan in Greg's New England per.

1200
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:43,319
Speaker 5: Did you just hear Greg say, Oh, I might have

1201
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:45,879
Speaker 5: to take that, Greg alson on a Patriots call. That's

1202
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:48,799
Speaker 5: a first week you sit there and tell me every week, Oh,

1203
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 5: you already picked this one as your game. I can't

1204
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:53,600
Speaker 5: give you two of your top choice spread them around usually,

1205
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 5: so hey, just saying double standard here.

1206
00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:58,200
Speaker 4: I maybe I want this?

1207
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:02,920
Speaker 5: The house corresponded, apparently, Greg Rosenthal.

1208
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 2: Thank you, Patrick, I can have the first pick this.

1209
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:09,759
Speaker 4: Do you want this one? Probably not.

1210
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:12,760
Speaker 6: I just want you guys to be happy with your games.

1211
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:14,279
Speaker 4: I'm happy with all the games.

1212
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 1: They're all beautiful, beautiful Patrick watches in the two quad boxes,

1213
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 1: so he's got us all covered. I appreciate that everyone's

1214
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:22,120
Speaker 1: got different strategies.

1215
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:24,959
Speaker 5: I think for a lot of these teams, the most

1216
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 5: important thing about these Week eighteen games is the immediate

1217
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 5: aftermath of them. We're gonna have a lot of questions

1218
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 5: answered about the future of Mike McDaniel and Anthony Weaver,

1219
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 5: who for weeks now we've heard are likely staying in

1220
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 5: place in Miami.

1221
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 4: But we'll just have to see. Meanwhile, it does look

1222
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 4: like they've.

1223
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 5: Found at minimum the backup quarterback, maybe a bridge quarterback

1224
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 5: in Quinn Yours. We're also going to get more clarity

1225
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:54,960
Speaker 5: after and then the weeks beyond this game.

1226
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 4: About Tua and his future.

1227
00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 5: Just a lot of things that start to unfold immediately

1228
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:01,320
Speaker 5: after the buzzer sounds on this one.

1229
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 1: Yours is a unique player just because he has a

1230
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 1: funky throwing motion and he has a Ryan Tannehill oh

1231
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:15,080
Speaker 1: like ability to be seemingly unaware that there's like a

1232
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 1: three hundred pound man about to just absolutely crush him,

1233
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 1: like where like his body doesn't even tend up, he

1234
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 1: just he just and it's it's dangerous.

1235
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 4: Just just naive, just blissfully unaware.

1236
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think most quarterbacks are never like that,

1237
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:33,120
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, because they're they're human. They

1238
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:35,080
Speaker 1: react to something that's like right in front of him,

1239
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 1: but he'll throw it and there is someone that is

1240
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:41,440
Speaker 1: about to absolutely level him. It makes you worried a

1241
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:43,439
Speaker 1: little bit because I think you need to be big

1242
00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 1: to take those sort of hits that so that he's

1243
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 1: not small. No, but he's not Ryan Tannehill, is he?

1244
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 2: I don't know. Or Cam Newton is another one that

1245
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 2: comes to mind that did that.

1246
00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:56,400
Speaker 5: But you could argue Cam Newton over time should never

1247
00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:57,720
Speaker 5: have been taking those hits anyway.

1248
00:58:57,760 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 4: I mean, it's unfortunate injuries.

1249
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 1: I don't like that ten and a half for the Patriots.

1250
00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 1: I think it's a tricky game. Are you guys you're

1251
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:06,480
Speaker 1: you're making a face.

1252
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:11,000
Speaker 3: Well, I just I understand that the litany of injuries

1253
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:13,400
Speaker 3: for the Chargers, the situation where they don't necessarily have

1254
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:16,680
Speaker 3: anything to play for, and then the Dolphins being you know,

1255
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:19,520
Speaker 3: the up and coming rising quin you were trying to

1256
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 3: save their their job situation.

1257
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:26,880
Speaker 6: But it's it's it's still a backup quarterback.

1258
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:29,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're saying for sure.

1259
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 1: But the other side of the ball, like, I know

1260
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:33,960
Speaker 1: it's against the Bucks, but you know, you saw the vision.

1261
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 1: You know, Bradley Chubbs having a monster game, Jordan Brooks

1262
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:40,520
Speaker 1: is having a monster season. The two young rookie defensive

1263
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 1: tackles are making some plays. Seiler like this was a

1264
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:45,720
Speaker 1: game that went down to the buzzer the first time

1265
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:48,000
Speaker 1: they played. And you can say, okay, well the Patriots

1266
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:50,360
Speaker 1: are a different team now, like Dolphins are relatively a

1267
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:53,720
Speaker 1: different team early too. It reminds me of a couple

1268
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:58,760
Speaker 1: Patriots losses to Miami. I know historically doesn't mean anything,

1269
00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:02,520
Speaker 1: but they're div and opponents. That Patriots are quite banged up.

1270
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:05,760
Speaker 1: I think they're in a tough spot because they want

1271
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:08,840
Speaker 1: to get that one seed in theory, but they know

1272
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:12,919
Speaker 1: it's very unlikely. Do they really care about the two seed.

1273
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:15,240
Speaker 1: They have a lot of injuries, and so I think

1274
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:18,240
Speaker 1: they'll be conservative with guys like Will Campbell and Milton

1275
01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:20,640
Speaker 1: Williams who are trying to come back for the playoffs.

1276
01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:23,720
Speaker 1: Robert Splaine is another one, but they also have a

1277
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:26,680
Speaker 1: lot of players. They are the most injured they've been

1278
01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:30,960
Speaker 1: all season right now, and so I don't know if

1279
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:32,760
Speaker 1: Mike Rabel is going to go all out. Maybe he'll

1280
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 1: take a McVeigh approach. Maybe he'll accept even backing up

1281
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:38,360
Speaker 1: to the three seed if they have to. I'm not sure,

1282
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:42,280
Speaker 1: because they need I mean, they would need the Chargers

1283
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:44,439
Speaker 1: backups to win to get that one seed.

1284
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:46,440
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's just a weird situation.

1285
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 4: And Happy Bake missed everybody.

1286
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:55,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, So Tom Brady lost to a Week eighteen

1287
01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:59,120
Speaker 1: Dolphins team and they'd lost the one seed. In that

1288
01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:03,200
Speaker 1: game he lost to a week eighteen Dolphins team on

1289
01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:05,640
Speaker 1: the way to you know, ending build you know his

1290
01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:08,600
Speaker 1: career in New England the next week to Mike Rabel.

1291
01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:10,600
Speaker 2: So it happened. He once lost to Nick Saban, I

1292
01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:11,960
Speaker 2: remember in the final week of this.

1293
01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:14,840
Speaker 3: So there's so many parallels. Yes where if this does happen,

1294
01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:17,400
Speaker 3: Drake may is Tom Brady.

1295
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:21,040
Speaker 5: There you go a the transitive property of equality.

1296
01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:26,680
Speaker 3: Speaking of equality, unfortunate that the nature of the shifting

1297
01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:30,200
Speaker 3: importance of games left this run by Trevor Lawrence and

1298
01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:35,640
Speaker 3: the jackson Jaguars off of the conversation because the Tennessee

1299
01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:38,840
Speaker 3: Titans are on the road in Duval taking on the

1300
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:42,080
Speaker 3: Jacksonville Jaguars, who are twelve and a half point favorites

1301
01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:44,640
Speaker 3: the over under forty seven and a half. Adam, I mean,

1302
01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:49,120
Speaker 3: Drew Brees and Christina pink are on the call where

1303
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:52,480
Speaker 3: the Jacks are just one of the hottest teams in

1304
01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:53,360
Speaker 3: football right now?

1305
01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:55,720
Speaker 6: Are what are we doing?

1306
01:01:55,880 --> 01:01:56,280
Speaker 4: You know what?

1307
01:01:56,520 --> 01:01:58,960
Speaker 6: Where are we going to start respecting the Jacksonville Jacks.

1308
01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:01,520
Speaker 4: I think this game could be a banger. I think

1309
01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:02,680
Speaker 4: this game has banger.

1310
01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:08,600
Speaker 2: It's yours, it's yours. I hat Drew Brees for five

1311
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:09,360
Speaker 2: straight weeks.

1312
01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:13,320
Speaker 1: He's fine. He actually is fine. He's fine, he's fine.

1313
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:17,080
Speaker 1: He has some interesting quarterback points. It's he The personality

1314
01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:21,520
Speaker 1: is not like you know, one hundred there, thanks.

1315
01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:25,880
Speaker 4: Greg, Yeah, I listen. Yes, Uh.

1316
01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:30,280
Speaker 5: Jacksonville is a wagon and offensive, defensive, special teams.

1317
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:32,080
Speaker 4: Everything is rolling. It's great.

1318
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:35,920
Speaker 5: Tennessee has been frisky for the entire second half of

1319
01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:39,680
Speaker 5: the season. They're they're a difficult matchup just because you

1320
01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:43,120
Speaker 5: don't really quite know what they are and how they're

1321
01:02:43,120 --> 01:02:43,600
Speaker 5: going to play.

1322
01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:45,160
Speaker 4: You quarterback can play.

1323
01:02:46,360 --> 01:02:52,360
Speaker 5: I do think this has banger potential watching Jacksonville approached

1324
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:54,960
Speaker 5: last week's game, where yes, they still won and they

1325
01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:56,800
Speaker 5: did what good teams do and they won a game

1326
01:02:56,840 --> 01:02:57,640
Speaker 5: they're supposed to win.

1327
01:02:58,200 --> 01:02:59,880
Speaker 4: But they tried.

1328
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:02,000
Speaker 5: They got a little cute with some of the strategy.

1329
01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:04,680
Speaker 5: They tried some stuff at times that maybe they just

1330
01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:08,120
Speaker 5: are seeing if it works and want to throw it away. Obviously,

1331
01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:11,840
Speaker 5: they're getting big production out of their receiving core. Trevor

1332
01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:15,720
Speaker 5: Lawrence is having an incredible season as well. This defense

1333
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:20,160
Speaker 5: is awesome, especially their front seven. But I do think,

1334
01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:24,120
Speaker 5: I mean, Tennessee has just been frisky and it's Jeffrey

1335
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:26,200
Speaker 5: Simmons doing random stuff.

1336
01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:27,760
Speaker 2: That sounds like you're taking that twelve and a half.

1337
01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:29,640
Speaker 5: I mean, I don't even know what that means, to

1338
01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:32,240
Speaker 5: be honest with you, but I feel like, what does

1339
01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:33,160
Speaker 5: that mean I take it.

1340
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:34,360
Speaker 2: And they keep it closer than that?

1341
01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:35,919
Speaker 4: Does that mean I take I pick a team?

1342
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:38,120
Speaker 1: Or does that that means that Titans keep it closer

1343
01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:39,280
Speaker 1: than twelve and a half points?

1344
01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:43,080
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm I don't I don't know what this. I'm famous.

1345
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:46,080
Speaker 5: I'm famously unaware of what all of these these these

1346
01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:46,480
Speaker 5: things are.

1347
01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:48,920
Speaker 6: And it's good. It's a good place to be because

1348
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:49,920
Speaker 6: Greg is in it.

1349
01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:53,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like, it's hard to figure out. It just

1350
01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:55,439
Speaker 2: says minus twelve. You know, you have to tell I.

1351
01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:58,960
Speaker 5: Have had people have to explain what a push is

1352
01:03:59,000 --> 01:03:59,640
Speaker 5: to me before.

1353
01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:03,320
Speaker 1: That sort of the lingo is tricky. Yeah, here's lingo

1354
01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:07,800
Speaker 1: that Patrick will understand. Trevor Lawrence is the newest first

1355
01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:10,520
Speaker 1: time member of Quarterback Island, and that's despite it being

1356
01:04:10,520 --> 01:04:13,240
Speaker 1: more exclusive than it's ever been. It came down to

1357
01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:17,520
Speaker 1: eight eight quarterbacks, and Trevor Lawrence not only made it,

1358
01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:20,400
Speaker 1: but like made it with some room to spare. Everyone agreed.

1359
01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:24,160
Speaker 1: He wasn't even the last guy on, so there's some respect.

1360
01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:27,600
Speaker 5: And you'll notice Greg hit us with the famous passive voice.

1361
01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:31,680
Speaker 5: Greg shrunk it to eight, and I was I.

1362
01:04:31,600 --> 01:04:34,800
Speaker 3: Was glad to have, you know, briefly been involved in

1363
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:38,200
Speaker 3: the experience. It felt like I walked into eight an angel.

1364
01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:41,840
Speaker 1: You know what I want to point out with this game,

1365
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:47,600
Speaker 1: which is very important. This the reason is this odd

1366
01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:52,000
Speaker 1: number is so big is because this game unquestionably is

1367
01:04:52,120 --> 01:04:55,200
Speaker 1: really important to the Jaguars. Like there's no there's no

1368
01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:59,040
Speaker 1: like vagueness about their motivation. It's a big deal for

1369
01:04:59,080 --> 01:05:02,080
Speaker 1: the Jaguars to win a division. They need to win

1370
01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:06,160
Speaker 1: this game, to win a division, to get a home game. Yeah,

1371
01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:08,560
Speaker 1: like to win to get a home game. They have

1372
01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:11,600
Speaker 1: a chance if they win and the Patriots lose to

1373
01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:13,760
Speaker 1: move up, they would move up to the two seed,

1374
01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:17,080
Speaker 1: which you know, potentially be Jags chargers in that scenario

1375
01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:21,080
Speaker 1: that the Bills are probably the sixth seed. So who

1376
01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:23,000
Speaker 1: knows if the Patriots would care enough to try to

1377
01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:25,800
Speaker 1: avoid the Bills. I don't know, but either way, they

1378
01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:29,320
Speaker 1: really the Jaguars being they I don't think, want to

1379
01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:31,480
Speaker 1: go on the road in the playoffs. They want to

1380
01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:33,920
Speaker 1: have a home game and make all that extra playoff

1381
01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:38,120
Speaker 1: money for their owner, and.

1382
01:05:38,160 --> 01:05:41,040
Speaker 3: They deserve I think considering the way they've played, they

1383
01:05:41,080 --> 01:05:42,000
Speaker 3: deserve that home game.

1384
01:05:42,160 --> 01:05:43,120
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1385
01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:46,280
Speaker 3: I would not be surprised if that twelve and a

1386
01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:50,160
Speaker 3: half hits because its exciting as cam Ward and the

1387
01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:53,520
Speaker 3: Titans are. It seems like it's it's freelancing that's done

1388
01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:58,760
Speaker 3: it almost exclusively down the Stretchial.

1389
01:05:58,000 --> 01:05:59,760
Speaker 6: Like chaos is how the Titans operate.

1390
01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:03,200
Speaker 3: Difficult to operate chaotically when the Jags, to your point, Jordan,

1391
01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:06,200
Speaker 3: are just trying stuff because the plans have been working

1392
01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:08,480
Speaker 3: to the extent where they're just trying stuff late.

1393
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:11,080
Speaker 1: A guy that's gotten on my radar lately, not just

1394
01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:14,800
Speaker 1: Trevon Walker who's playing outstanding Van Lanen?

1395
01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:15,280
Speaker 6: What is it?

1396
01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:18,080
Speaker 1: Is it Cole van Lanen for the Jacksonville Jaguars who

1397
01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:21,200
Speaker 1: who came in at some point this season and has

1398
01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:26,600
Speaker 1: started I believe, at four different offensive line positions. Yes,

1399
01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:29,880
Speaker 1: And is there left tackle heading into the playoffs. It

1400
01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:32,320
Speaker 1: seems like it's permanent now and has played pretty well.

1401
01:06:32,600 --> 01:06:35,400
Speaker 1: Walker Little, who was there and got a huge contract

1402
01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:37,840
Speaker 1: as like a bridge, you know, swing tackle, is now

1403
01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:39,880
Speaker 1: at guard and gave up a lot of pressures. Granted

1404
01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:41,760
Speaker 1: it was against you know, good competition last week, but

1405
01:06:42,840 --> 01:06:45,800
Speaker 1: he's now at guard and so that's like a sneaky

1406
01:06:46,120 --> 01:06:46,680
Speaker 1: step plot.

1407
01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:49,480
Speaker 5: I had that game a few weeks ago, talking about

1408
01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:53,600
Speaker 5: Colvin Laning coming in and looked great, right for fabilized it.

1409
01:06:54,240 --> 01:06:59,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's time for the Sunday Drive presented by Toyota.

1410
01:06:59,600 --> 01:07:03,640
Speaker 3: Let's go places on Sunday Night football. The Baltimore Ravens

1411
01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:06,280
Speaker 3: are three and a half point favorites greg over the

1412
01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:09,120
Speaker 3: Pittsburgh Steelers. The over under is forty one and a half.

1413
01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:13,280
Speaker 3: Mike Tarico, Chris Collinsworth, Melissa start Football Night in America.

1414
01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:15,640
Speaker 3: Will happen Before the game, They'll have the weird thing

1415
01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:18,080
Speaker 3: where they just abbreviate Football Night in America and says

1416
01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:20,920
Speaker 3: f NI A and you're like, does that say final?

1417
01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:21,400
Speaker 6: I don't know.

1418
01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:23,000
Speaker 3: It's weird to look at the screen. But then the

1419
01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:27,760
Speaker 3: game happens. Yes, what happens in the football game?

1420
01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:34,480
Speaker 1: I my head says Steelers.

1421
01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:35,640
Speaker 2: It just feels like.

1422
01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:38,160
Speaker 1: What they're gonna do. They're just gonna win this game,

1423
01:07:38,200 --> 01:07:40,760
Speaker 1: and they just look so bad. But my heart is

1424
01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:43,520
Speaker 1: rooting for the Ravens because I think that makes for

1425
01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:44,320
Speaker 1: the best playoffs.

1426
01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:45,960
Speaker 2: It makes for the best story.

1427
01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:50,800
Speaker 1: A world in which Patrick Claybon is happy and that

1428
01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:54,280
Speaker 1: the Ravens at the very last second get their stuff

1429
01:07:54,320 --> 01:07:58,320
Speaker 1: together and go on a playoff run would be very

1430
01:07:58,360 --> 01:08:05,240
Speaker 1: intriguing to me. A Texans Ravens first round matchup yep,

1431
01:08:05,880 --> 01:08:08,360
Speaker 1: which would would be very interesting. And it's been a

1432
01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:11,000
Speaker 1: good matchup for the Ravens in recent years, but obviously

1433
01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:13,280
Speaker 1: different teams this year. The whole thing is great, and

1434
01:08:13,360 --> 01:08:15,960
Speaker 1: yet it all seems impossible to analyze because we don't

1435
01:08:15,960 --> 01:08:19,000
Speaker 1: know if Lamar Jackson is playing or not. And I

1436
01:08:19,360 --> 01:08:21,759
Speaker 1: asked around and nobody knows. I don't think the Ravens

1437
01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:24,519
Speaker 1: know to be fair at this point in the week.

1438
01:08:24,840 --> 01:08:28,960
Speaker 1: They're just gonna wait and see. I can see a

1439
01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:32,120
Speaker 1: world where Tyler Huntley helps them win this game, but

1440
01:08:32,360 --> 01:08:33,679
Speaker 1: it's much less likely.

1441
01:08:33,760 --> 01:08:36,439
Speaker 2: I think we could recognize that, right please please?

1442
01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:38,000
Speaker 6: Yeah? No, yes?

1443
01:08:38,640 --> 01:08:42,160
Speaker 3: Despite the you know yes again, how about I not

1444
01:08:42,200 --> 01:08:45,519
Speaker 3: even acknowledge that idea and that concept and talk about

1445
01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:48,200
Speaker 3: the injuries that also the Pittsburgh steel Yes are dealing

1446
01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:52,400
Speaker 3: with in this game. Because Darnel Washington literally huge for

1447
01:08:52,520 --> 01:08:54,040
Speaker 3: this team and the way that they would like to

1448
01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:57,160
Speaker 3: approach things, and granted it was a unique situation where

1449
01:08:57,439 --> 01:09:01,599
Speaker 3: I think slightly prevent the sack record was one thing,

1450
01:09:01,720 --> 01:09:04,200
Speaker 3: but also preventing Miles Garrett from hitting Aaron Rodgers was

1451
01:09:04,439 --> 01:09:07,160
Speaker 3: another thing. And there's no Miles geartt on the Baltimore Ravens,

1452
01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:09,800
Speaker 3: but they do need to be able to get the

1453
01:09:09,840 --> 01:09:12,519
Speaker 3: ball down the field. There will be no dk Metcalf

1454
01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:14,439
Speaker 3: in this game, and.

1455
01:09:15,640 --> 01:09:18,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would probably know it's TJ. Watt.

1456
01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:20,680
Speaker 1: According to Pro Football Talk, Mike Tomlin said he was

1457
01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:23,759
Speaker 1: more optimistic this week than recent weeks, but Pro Football

1458
01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:26,240
Speaker 1: Talk had sources that thought TJ. Watt was not going

1459
01:09:26,320 --> 01:09:28,160
Speaker 1: to be ready to be back for this game. So yeah,

1460
01:09:28,200 --> 01:09:29,759
Speaker 1: some of the most important players.

1461
01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:32,160
Speaker 5: I wonder if you see if Lamar is coming back first,

1462
01:09:32,200 --> 01:09:33,840
Speaker 5: and then you just decide whether TJ.

1463
01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:34,120
Speaker 4: Watt.

1464
01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:37,040
Speaker 1: I think TJ Watt's playing, if TJ Watt has any

1465
01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:39,200
Speaker 1: chance at playing, but they can't let him do that.

1466
01:09:39,280 --> 01:09:42,599
Speaker 5: The thing that strikes me is, like Greg, you said

1467
01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:45,559
Speaker 5: that this game feels like a Steelers win, Like it

1468
01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:48,479
Speaker 5: just feels in your head like it. I don't think that.

1469
01:09:48,680 --> 01:09:51,760
Speaker 5: To me, this feels like a Baltimore Ravens. The Steelers

1470
01:09:51,800 --> 01:09:55,840
Speaker 5: without Darnold Washington, who dictates a significant portion of their

1471
01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:58,800
Speaker 5: blocking surface, not just because he is a massive human,

1472
01:09:58,840 --> 01:10:01,040
Speaker 5: but because of the concepts that they run and then

1473
01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:04,439
Speaker 5: also no deep threat. You cannot trust that they can

1474
01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:07,200
Speaker 5: run the ball the way that they had been when they.

1475
01:10:07,080 --> 01:10:08,800
Speaker 4: Were at their best. I did.

1476
01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:11,040
Speaker 5: I mean, you could say probably the same for the

1477
01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:13,439
Speaker 5: Ravens in terms of the run game. But I would

1478
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:17,880
Speaker 5: trust a Ravens team starting to pick itself up right

1479
01:10:17,920 --> 01:10:20,800
Speaker 5: now more than I would trust the Pittsburgh Steelers winning

1480
01:10:20,800 --> 01:10:21,120
Speaker 5: this game.

1481
01:10:21,200 --> 01:10:24,559
Speaker 1: Oh that's all the reasons why I my head says Steelers,

1482
01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:26,600
Speaker 1: because I've just been through this so many times that

1483
01:10:27,360 --> 01:10:30,519
Speaker 1: this team is there lunch on the lost, this team

1484
01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:34,040
Speaker 1: has no chance to go on a long run, like

1485
01:10:34,280 --> 01:10:37,360
Speaker 1: this is not a good team, and they've just like

1486
01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:40,080
Speaker 1: nobody is surprised that they lost to the Browns last week,

1487
01:10:40,120 --> 01:10:42,160
Speaker 1: Like that's what they do and this is also what

1488
01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:44,599
Speaker 1: they do, is just like find a way to sneak

1489
01:10:44,640 --> 01:10:47,120
Speaker 1: in somehow. But no, it doesn't make sense logically. I

1490
01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:49,920
Speaker 1: think the players are better for Baltimore. I think getting

1491
01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:53,840
Speaker 1: to see Derek Henry play like that last week was incredible.

1492
01:10:53,880 --> 01:10:59,040
Speaker 1: I think Baltimore should have a coaching advantage, and yet.

1493
01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:02,040
Speaker 4: Just saying my head and hearts, the Steelers lose this game.

1494
01:11:02,240 --> 01:11:04,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, And and look, we only have to look to

1495
01:11:04,520 --> 01:11:07,679
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago to this matchup. Now, now,

1496
01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:10,760
Speaker 1: this one goes to Pittsburgh, and it's tough to beat

1497
01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:14,240
Speaker 1: a team twice in a row. Baltimore, you know, just

1498
01:11:14,439 --> 01:11:18,960
Speaker 1: recently did it. Everything's upside down. Chris Boswell is coming

1499
01:11:19,040 --> 01:11:20,160
Speaker 1: up short for the Steelers.

1500
01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:24,000
Speaker 3: That's that's the most wild part about this is seeing

1501
01:11:24,040 --> 01:11:28,160
Speaker 3: Boswell spray them around the goalpost and also seeing Fallele

1502
01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:29,479
Speaker 3: have the game.

1503
01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:31,080
Speaker 6: Of his career against the Green Bay.

1504
01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:36,040
Speaker 3: I think the fact that the Packers are non common

1505
01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:40,320
Speaker 3: opponent who are generally beat up right now and everything

1506
01:11:40,760 --> 01:11:43,960
Speaker 3: going in the opposite direction there where I don't know

1507
01:11:43,960 --> 01:11:47,400
Speaker 3: if we can extrapolate like a similar performance up front

1508
01:11:47,520 --> 01:11:49,880
Speaker 3: against the Steelers team that's very familiar with what they're

1509
01:11:49,880 --> 01:11:52,320
Speaker 3: trying to do, where they really targeted him in the

1510
01:11:52,320 --> 01:11:58,479
Speaker 3: pass protection game. The fact that if clearly if it's

1511
01:11:58,520 --> 01:11:59,559
Speaker 3: if it's five back there.

1512
01:11:59,479 --> 01:11:59,960
Speaker 6: And not eight.

1513
01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:04,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I don't even know, and I don't even

1514
01:12:04,840 --> 01:12:06,680
Speaker 1: know what to think about that first matchup, So to

1515
01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:09,559
Speaker 1: be clear, it wasn't how I talked. You know that

1516
01:12:09,640 --> 01:12:14,440
Speaker 1: the Steelers won that game, but it was so strange

1517
01:12:14,520 --> 01:12:19,000
Speaker 1: because it was a big time Ravens rushing performance. Lamar

1518
01:12:19,320 --> 01:12:21,800
Speaker 1: was part of that, but they put up over what

1519
01:12:22,240 --> 01:12:24,559
Speaker 1: two hundred yards on the ground in that game, and

1520
01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:27,960
Speaker 1: the Steelers, who totally went away from the run game

1521
01:12:28,040 --> 01:12:31,360
Speaker 1: last week despite being pretty effective doing it, only had

1522
01:12:31,439 --> 01:12:34,519
Speaker 1: thirty four yards rushing against the Ravens the first time around. Like,

1523
01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:37,240
Speaker 1: I just don't think you can win that way with

1524
01:12:37,400 --> 01:12:41,920
Speaker 1: Scotty Miller and Aaron Rodgers throwing hero shots. Well that's

1525
01:12:42,280 --> 01:12:46,360
Speaker 1: it was the Sons, I know, but there's no DK. Yeah,

1526
01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:47,960
Speaker 1: that's what I mean. I don't think you can do

1527
01:12:47,960 --> 01:12:50,280
Speaker 1: it to Scotty Miller. I mean there was the sequence in.

1528
01:12:50,200 --> 01:12:52,200
Speaker 6: That games disrespected right now.

1529
01:12:52,040 --> 01:12:57,160
Speaker 1: The sequence in that game where Rogers before he set

1530
01:12:57,240 --> 01:12:58,880
Speaker 1: up remember the fourth and one where he throws it

1531
01:12:58,920 --> 01:12:59,800
Speaker 1: deep to Scotty Miller.

1532
01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:02,720
Speaker 2: Everyone is like, what are you doing? Man? What are

1533
01:13:02,720 --> 01:13:03,000
Speaker 2: you doing?

1534
01:13:03,040 --> 01:13:08,040
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers he set that up by sliding right before it,

1535
01:13:08,240 --> 01:13:10,040
Speaker 1: you know, for the first down, instead of like diving

1536
01:13:10,080 --> 01:13:11,280
Speaker 1: head because he's Aaron Rodgers.

1537
01:13:11,320 --> 01:13:13,559
Speaker 2: At this point, it's like, I'm just enough of it.

1538
01:13:13,560 --> 01:13:14,200
Speaker 2: Wouldn't it be?

1539
01:13:14,439 --> 01:13:16,840
Speaker 1: It would be quite a terrible ending if they lose

1540
01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:18,080
Speaker 1: this game for this this season.

1541
01:13:18,120 --> 01:13:21,639
Speaker 5: And that's that's what I'm saying, because don't you feel

1542
01:13:22,560 --> 01:13:26,360
Speaker 5: that the universal context where I think you could argue

1543
01:13:26,439 --> 01:13:28,960
Speaker 5: change has to be made at both of these organizations

1544
01:13:29,240 --> 01:13:34,200
Speaker 5: in spots. Don't you think that the Steelers laying an

1545
01:13:34,200 --> 01:13:37,840
Speaker 5: egg in this game might be the thing that universally

1546
01:13:37,880 --> 01:13:40,760
Speaker 5: pushes It's not just Aaron Rodgers on his way out,

1547
01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:43,400
Speaker 5: but perhaps they make changes in other parts. Perhaps Mike

1548
01:13:43,400 --> 01:13:47,639
Speaker 5: Tomlin decides, because that's all the reporting. Hey, I you know,

1549
01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:50,080
Speaker 5: if he decides he wants to walk away, maybe go

1550
01:13:50,120 --> 01:13:53,920
Speaker 5: coach another team, whatever. Don't you just feel that stuck

1551
01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:58,479
Speaker 5: in middle, stuck in medium all of this time, that

1552
01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:00,639
Speaker 5: a game like this, losing a game like this would

1553
01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:01,679
Speaker 5: push you over the edge.

1554
01:14:02,520 --> 01:14:05,680
Speaker 1: Yes, And I think that points out the stakes in

1555
01:14:05,720 --> 01:14:08,519
Speaker 1: this game for both sides. And I've tried to talk

1556
01:14:08,520 --> 01:14:11,120
Speaker 1: to people. I'm just guessing that I think it could

1557
01:14:11,160 --> 01:14:13,479
Speaker 1: be the end for John Harbaugh. There're certainly I think

1558
01:14:13,479 --> 01:14:15,960
Speaker 1: most people would disagree, like even if they lost this game,

1559
01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:18,840
Speaker 1: but I think that is a fascinating subplot that maybe

1560
01:14:18,880 --> 01:14:21,840
Speaker 1: the loser of this game, like more changes happen in

1561
01:14:21,920 --> 01:14:24,360
Speaker 1: the offseason, partly because of that.

1562
01:14:24,439 --> 01:14:25,640
Speaker 2: It's delicious.

1563
01:14:26,680 --> 01:14:28,200
Speaker 6: Get everybody something they want.

1564
01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:31,800
Speaker 3: And and my apologies to the fire Tomlin contingency. Some

1565
01:14:31,840 --> 01:14:35,080
Speaker 3: folks had reached out, and you know, because I had

1566
01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:36,760
Speaker 3: said I didn't know if they if all of the

1567
01:14:36,840 --> 01:14:41,040
Speaker 3: chanters were capable of introspection. Oh, the jury is still

1568
01:14:41,040 --> 01:14:43,120
Speaker 3: out there. But I think there's a solution for everybody

1569
01:14:43,160 --> 01:14:45,280
Speaker 3: to get what they want. And that's what Baltimore Ravens

1570
01:14:45,280 --> 01:14:45,840
Speaker 3: to win this game.

1571
01:14:45,920 --> 01:14:48,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do have to admit because I'm going to

1572
01:14:49,120 --> 01:14:51,080
Speaker 1: I don't know the Ravens are favored. I'm going to

1573
01:14:51,120 --> 01:14:53,240
Speaker 1: pick the Ravens because I'll be real, and that's what

1574
01:14:53,280 --> 01:14:57,800
Speaker 1: I want to happen. Derrick Henry having that game, you know,

1575
01:14:57,880 --> 01:15:01,759
Speaker 1: just a few days before Christmas, it did make me believe. Yeah,

1576
01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:06,360
Speaker 1: that just in the power of something greater than myself

1577
01:15:06,479 --> 01:15:08,559
Speaker 1: or even than football in general, Derrick Henry, and that

1578
01:15:08,640 --> 01:15:10,559
Speaker 1: is Derek freaking Henry.

1579
01:15:11,160 --> 01:15:13,879
Speaker 2: Take it home. Let's take one more break and then.

1580
01:15:13,800 --> 01:15:17,360
Speaker 1: We will run through the rest of the AFC before

1581
01:15:17,400 --> 01:15:19,400
Speaker 1: we wrap up this week eighteen previews show.

1582
01:15:23,160 --> 01:15:23,800
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1583
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Speaker 1: Back on NFL Daily, and if you've been paying attention

1594
01:16:05,720 --> 01:16:08,879
Speaker 1: to me, going through the AFC in order of seed

1595
01:16:09,240 --> 01:16:13,639
Speaker 1: right now, the Steelers are the four seed. The Texans

1596
01:16:13,640 --> 01:16:15,880
Speaker 1: are the five seeds, so they're up next. But before

1597
01:16:15,880 --> 01:16:18,920
Speaker 1: we move on for good from that Ravens Steelers game,

1598
01:16:18,960 --> 01:16:21,240
Speaker 1: I wanted to point out we're doing the first ever

1599
01:16:21,720 --> 01:16:26,760
Speaker 1: post Sunday night football live show on YouTube. I hate

1600
01:16:26,760 --> 01:16:28,600
Speaker 1: to do this to Patrick Claybond, but you're going to

1601
01:16:28,680 --> 01:16:32,400
Speaker 1: have to get on the air and react to your

1602
01:16:32,439 --> 01:16:38,599
Speaker 1: team either winning or having a heartbreaking loss. And that's

1603
01:16:38,640 --> 01:16:43,040
Speaker 1: some real television professionalism. That's going to be tested profess

1604
01:16:44,040 --> 01:16:46,519
Speaker 1: for you, but you don't have to be That's the

1605
01:16:46,520 --> 01:16:48,400
Speaker 1: good thing about a podcast. You don't have to pretend

1606
01:16:48,439 --> 01:16:52,320
Speaker 1: like you're completely unbiased or anything like that.

1607
01:16:52,720 --> 01:16:55,400
Speaker 6: The shroud has been dropped on that. Okay for a

1608
01:16:55,400 --> 01:16:56,040
Speaker 6: good little while.

1609
01:16:56,080 --> 01:16:59,599
Speaker 1: Okay, but come join us. We will be trying something

1610
01:16:59,640 --> 01:17:01,439
Speaker 1: new and so that's going to be really fun. We'll

1611
01:17:01,439 --> 01:17:04,000
Speaker 1: be racked into that game and setting up the AFC

1612
01:17:04,200 --> 01:17:04,479
Speaker 1: and the.

1613
01:17:04,520 --> 01:17:09,479
Speaker 3: Entire playoffs beginning of the AFC. How great was the

1614
01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:13,679
Speaker 3: start for the Indianapolis Colts. Things Things went absolutely south

1615
01:17:14,400 --> 01:17:17,320
Speaker 3: in the AFC South. They are at the Houston Texans,

1616
01:17:17,320 --> 01:17:20,320
Speaker 3: who are favored by ten the over unders thirty nine

1617
01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:23,479
Speaker 3: and a half. You can believe your ears. This time.

1618
01:17:23,520 --> 01:17:25,800
Speaker 3: It's not baby birds, big bird. Iron Eagle is on

1619
01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:28,400
Speaker 3: the call to the folks who heard Noah and were

1620
01:17:28,479 --> 01:17:29,719
Speaker 3: very surprised to see.

1621
01:17:29,720 --> 01:17:32,680
Speaker 5: The Iron Eagle fresh off a spicy week of broadcasting.

1622
01:17:32,840 --> 01:17:36,120
Speaker 3: Yes, a lot has happened. Jj A lott Evan Washburn

1623
01:17:36,160 --> 01:17:40,600
Speaker 3: also on the call. Jordan, we get to see what

1624
01:17:40,680 --> 01:17:43,840
Speaker 3: we haven't seen from the Indianapolis Colts these last few weeks.

1625
01:17:43,840 --> 01:17:44,599
Speaker 6: Briley Leonard.

1626
01:17:44,720 --> 01:17:47,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, after not playing the entire game and coming in

1627
01:17:47,760 --> 01:17:51,520
Speaker 3: throwing hill very interception, finally gets a chance to play. Congratulations,

1628
01:17:51,560 --> 01:17:53,519
Speaker 3: it's one of the best pass rushes we've seen in

1629
01:17:53,600 --> 01:17:54,120
Speaker 3: the NFL.

1630
01:17:54,400 --> 01:17:54,639
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1631
01:17:55,200 --> 01:17:58,200
Speaker 4: Best of luck. Yeah.

1632
01:17:58,360 --> 01:18:01,240
Speaker 5: I thought, first and foremost, I thought Riley I had

1633
01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:04,360
Speaker 5: his game the game that he came in. I thought

1634
01:18:04,400 --> 01:18:07,000
Speaker 5: he played well. I think he made smart decisions. I

1635
01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:09,439
Speaker 5: think he can work out a structure. He doesn't make

1636
01:18:09,720 --> 01:18:11,320
Speaker 5: a lot of mistakes, he doesn't take a ton of

1637
01:18:11,320 --> 01:18:14,599
Speaker 5: negative plays in a very limited sample size that we're seeing.

1638
01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:16,599
Speaker 5: I thought he plays the ball well. He has great

1639
01:18:16,640 --> 01:18:21,839
Speaker 5: skill players. However, you are going up against the surface

1640
01:18:21,880 --> 01:18:25,560
Speaker 5: of the sun that is the Houston Texans defense aka

1641
01:18:25,680 --> 01:18:27,120
Speaker 5: my favorite defense.

1642
01:18:26,840 --> 01:18:27,559
Speaker 4: In the NFL.

1643
01:18:27,880 --> 01:18:31,840
Speaker 5: In absolute joy, I was extremely fortunate to be able

1644
01:18:31,840 --> 01:18:34,439
Speaker 5: to cover that game last week at SOFI Stadium against

1645
01:18:34,439 --> 01:18:36,720
Speaker 5: the Chargers, and then to go be able to be

1646
01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:39,519
Speaker 5: in the Texans locker room and meet some of these

1647
01:18:39,520 --> 01:18:41,960
Speaker 5: guys that I actually have either you know, not covered

1648
01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:45,000
Speaker 5: in person or covered remotely for the last season or two.

1649
01:18:45,920 --> 01:18:51,519
Speaker 5: What a What a great group of people that genuinely

1650
01:18:51,560 --> 01:18:53,720
Speaker 5: care about each other, that are playing like on a

1651
01:18:53,960 --> 01:18:59,360
Speaker 5: rope together and believe in themselves and are are confident

1652
01:18:59,400 --> 01:19:03,760
Speaker 5: to the point of their quarterback slash. Offense overall has

1653
01:19:03,880 --> 01:19:06,240
Speaker 5: not been good enough all season. The play calling hasn't

1654
01:19:06,240 --> 01:19:09,160
Speaker 5: been good enough. Often, the offensive line started out not

1655
01:19:09,240 --> 01:19:11,760
Speaker 5: good enough. The run game has not been consistent enough,

1656
01:19:12,080 --> 01:19:15,000
Speaker 5: the efficiency down to down is not there. And yet

1657
01:19:15,040 --> 01:19:17,680
Speaker 5: there is no finger pointing because this defense is so

1658
01:19:17,840 --> 01:19:19,640
Speaker 5: confident that it can be the group that lifts the

1659
01:19:19,640 --> 01:19:22,400
Speaker 5: floor of this entire team. It was a beautiful thing

1660
01:19:22,439 --> 01:19:24,120
Speaker 5: to watch. It was a great thing to experience, and

1661
01:19:24,200 --> 01:19:26,000
Speaker 5: I love that the Texans are so back.

1662
01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:26,400
Speaker 2: Baby.

1663
01:19:26,520 --> 01:19:28,320
Speaker 1: They've had a little bit of bad luck if you

1664
01:19:28,320 --> 01:19:30,360
Speaker 1: think about not just how they lost games early in

1665
01:19:30,400 --> 01:19:32,720
Speaker 1: the season, but if they win this game, and they're

1666
01:19:32,720 --> 01:19:35,400
Speaker 1: heavily favored to do so, they're going to be a

1667
01:19:35,560 --> 01:19:40,000
Speaker 1: twelve win wild card. And then if you dip underneath,

1668
01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:43,320
Speaker 1: the number is even a little more over at FTN

1669
01:19:43,439 --> 01:19:46,120
Speaker 1: like the number three and four teams right now in

1670
01:19:46,200 --> 01:19:48,360
Speaker 1: weighted DVOA, which gives more weight to the end of

1671
01:19:48,360 --> 01:19:51,200
Speaker 1: the season than the first month, or two the number

1672
01:19:51,240 --> 01:19:53,799
Speaker 1: three and four teams in the entire NFL. But behind

1673
01:19:53,800 --> 01:19:56,639
Speaker 1: my big two, which has been Seattle in LA all year,

1674
01:19:57,000 --> 01:19:58,920
Speaker 1: and it's still Seattle in LA and they're pretty far

1675
01:19:58,920 --> 01:20:01,960
Speaker 1: ahead of the pack. It's Jacksonville and Houston. Yeah, and

1676
01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:04,599
Speaker 1: it kind of makes sense to me. I like, I'm like, yeah,

1677
01:20:05,360 --> 01:20:07,160
Speaker 1: right now, if I had to pick a third and

1678
01:20:07,160 --> 01:20:09,599
Speaker 1: a fourth team, it really might be Jacksonville and Houston.

1679
01:20:09,720 --> 01:20:12,080
Speaker 1: So they're trying to win this game. I think they'll

1680
01:20:12,120 --> 01:20:14,600
Speaker 1: be able to do it against Riley Leonard. But you know,

1681
01:20:14,680 --> 01:20:18,320
Speaker 1: unless the Jaguars get upset, they will be you know,

1682
01:20:18,400 --> 01:20:22,080
Speaker 1: doing that wildcard path and probably be you know, on

1683
01:20:22,160 --> 01:20:26,120
Speaker 1: the road at Pittsburgh or Baltimore, which which would be fascinating.

1684
01:20:26,200 --> 01:20:28,519
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's just been an awesome season watching them.

1685
01:20:28,720 --> 01:20:32,160
Speaker 3: Yeah the way that And again I say it every

1686
01:20:32,160 --> 01:20:34,439
Speaker 3: time because if folks are on NFL Pro, if they're

1687
01:20:34,439 --> 01:20:36,680
Speaker 3: on next Gen Stats and they're seeing the pressures, the

1688
01:20:36,760 --> 01:20:40,320
Speaker 3: pressures for Will Anderson and Daniel Hunter are different than

1689
01:20:40,320 --> 01:20:42,400
Speaker 3: the pressures for other people because they don't have to

1690
01:20:42,400 --> 01:20:45,120
Speaker 3: get as close. The closing speed is so high. When

1691
01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:48,040
Speaker 3: they get to a certain range, it's lights out for

1692
01:20:48,320 --> 01:20:50,639
Speaker 3: a lot of these guys. And we've seen that make

1693
01:20:50,680 --> 01:20:53,479
Speaker 3: these plays over and over again where it's it's a

1694
01:20:53,560 --> 01:20:58,640
Speaker 3: rough go like Riley Leonard legitimately has a case for malpractice.

1695
01:20:58,640 --> 01:21:01,599
Speaker 1: For how remember when Drake made his first start against

1696
01:21:01,640 --> 01:21:03,559
Speaker 1: the Texans last year and it was like a week

1697
01:21:03,600 --> 01:21:06,439
Speaker 1: long conversation, how could you bring him in like this

1698
01:21:06,479 --> 01:21:10,040
Speaker 1: is irresponsible by the Patriots to start his career against

1699
01:21:10,080 --> 01:21:12,880
Speaker 1: this Texans defense, which I thought was ridiculous.

1700
01:21:13,320 --> 01:21:14,599
Speaker 2: Hey, how about Riley Leonard?

1701
01:21:14,680 --> 01:21:16,320
Speaker 1: Why don't you Why don't you do it in Week

1702
01:21:16,360 --> 01:21:19,120
Speaker 1: eighteen with like a banged up offensive line that's not

1703
01:21:19,160 --> 01:21:20,160
Speaker 1: playing as well as it was?

1704
01:21:20,280 --> 01:21:21,200
Speaker 2: Man stuff?

1705
01:21:21,439 --> 01:21:24,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think too the Texans specifically, where one

1706
01:21:24,760 --> 01:21:26,800
Speaker 5: of their strengths that many other teams in the league

1707
01:21:26,840 --> 01:21:31,080
Speaker 5: struggle to find a strength here is at inside linebacker,

1708
01:21:31,200 --> 01:21:34,519
Speaker 5: where they will not only use the players that they

1709
01:21:34,560 --> 01:21:36,320
Speaker 5: have who are playing at a super high level, but

1710
01:21:36,360 --> 01:21:39,080
Speaker 5: they'll also send Jalen Petrie down into the slot quite

1711
01:21:39,080 --> 01:21:42,519
Speaker 5: a bit, and he sort of puts a cap around

1712
01:21:42,520 --> 01:21:44,600
Speaker 5: the quarterback wherever the quarterback is. You saw it a

1713
01:21:44,680 --> 01:21:47,360
Speaker 5: couple of times. One time, Justin Herbert broke loose for

1714
01:21:47,400 --> 01:21:50,879
Speaker 5: a big third down conversion along the sideline. But Jalen Petrie,

1715
01:21:51,160 --> 01:21:54,000
Speaker 5: he is covering up the quick game with the way

1716
01:21:54,040 --> 01:21:56,120
Speaker 5: that he's playing coverage close to the line of scrimmage

1717
01:21:56,360 --> 01:21:59,320
Speaker 5: and then moving out of structure and making plays happen

1718
01:21:59,360 --> 01:22:03,760
Speaker 5: out of structure against particularly this front seven, and then

1719
01:22:03,880 --> 01:22:05,960
Speaker 5: the addition of Jalen Petrie when he does play close

1720
01:22:05,960 --> 01:22:09,160
Speaker 5: to the line of scrimmage, that is a nightmare because

1721
01:22:09,680 --> 01:22:12,080
Speaker 5: they're dictating every throw you make, even when you try

1722
01:22:12,120 --> 01:22:14,280
Speaker 5: to create more space for yourself with those play action

1723
01:22:14,600 --> 01:22:15,360
Speaker 5: or bootlegs.

1724
01:22:15,439 --> 01:22:17,760
Speaker 1: So before we move on from this game, I want

1725
01:22:17,840 --> 01:22:20,040
Speaker 1: to hear a little bit about your feature on The

1726
01:22:20,080 --> 01:22:24,960
Speaker 1: Athletic this week about the CEO slash owner of the Colts,

1727
01:22:25,000 --> 01:22:31,280
Speaker 1: Carly Ursa Gordon, who is notable for many things, but

1728
01:22:31,360 --> 01:22:33,960
Speaker 1: one would be that, like Kyle Shanahan, she's around my

1729
01:22:34,080 --> 01:22:37,120
Speaker 1: age and is wearing a flat brim hat consistently really

1730
01:22:37,680 --> 01:22:40,559
Speaker 1: making it happen. So that's the thing I've recognized her

1731
01:22:40,600 --> 01:22:42,920
Speaker 1: most for. What did you learn about her?

1732
01:22:43,400 --> 01:22:46,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, obviously you know that I went to Indianapolis.

1733
01:22:46,800 --> 01:22:49,640
Speaker 5: I spent a week inside the organization for at the

1734
01:22:49,640 --> 01:22:53,799
Speaker 5: beginning of December. At the time, nobody in the state,

1735
01:22:54,400 --> 01:22:57,280
Speaker 5: let alone the organization, knew that their season was about

1736
01:22:57,280 --> 01:23:00,280
Speaker 5: to completely turn on its head. Their injury can turns

1737
01:23:00,280 --> 01:23:03,240
Speaker 5: with Daniel Jones. Obviously, at the time, the defense and

1738
01:23:03,280 --> 01:23:05,479
Speaker 5: the offense. Both were playing a little under how they

1739
01:23:05,520 --> 01:23:09,680
Speaker 5: started the year, but that really was after that was

1740
01:23:09,720 --> 01:23:12,080
Speaker 5: when he tore Daniel Jones tour the Achilles, and then

1741
01:23:12,120 --> 01:23:16,000
Speaker 5: the entire chaos and truly kind of a mess of

1742
01:23:16,120 --> 01:23:20,040
Speaker 5: the last month of the season happened and they became

1743
01:23:20,080 --> 01:23:23,280
Speaker 5: eliminated from playoff contention after starting the season so strong.

1744
01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:29,720
Speaker 5: What I learned about Carly is that she doesn't I

1745
01:23:29,760 --> 01:23:31,519
Speaker 5: think when people see her on the sideline with the

1746
01:23:31,560 --> 01:23:34,160
Speaker 5: headset and they see her taking notes as diligently, and

1747
01:23:34,200 --> 01:23:35,960
Speaker 5: they hear that she meets with Shane Styche and Chris

1748
01:23:35,960 --> 01:23:38,800
Speaker 5: Ballard once a week every week and has for years,

1749
01:23:38,960 --> 01:23:41,519
Speaker 5: I think people think that she's involved in the decision

1750
01:23:41,560 --> 01:23:45,120
Speaker 5: making in terms of smothering over decisions or trying to

1751
01:23:45,840 --> 01:23:49,200
Speaker 5: sway people to her thinking or influencing decisions. That's actually

1752
01:23:49,200 --> 01:23:52,679
Speaker 5: not the case at all. I think she will have

1753
01:23:52,840 --> 01:23:55,800
Speaker 5: more influence in whatever changes they do or do not

1754
01:23:55,920 --> 01:24:00,160
Speaker 5: make in terms of their entire organization and at quarterback

1755
01:24:00,200 --> 01:24:01,920
Speaker 5: over the next couple of weeks, and the stakes are

1756
01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:04,840
Speaker 5: very high in that regard. But in terms of the

1757
01:24:05,160 --> 01:24:08,800
Speaker 5: day to day and in terms of the decision making process,

1758
01:24:08,840 --> 01:24:13,920
Speaker 5: she is more of a question asker and a student

1759
01:24:14,000 --> 01:24:17,479
Speaker 5: and someone who is learning about the organization and asking

1760
01:24:17,560 --> 01:24:21,960
Speaker 5: questions in a way to sort of foster conversation and

1761
01:24:22,040 --> 01:24:26,080
Speaker 5: encourage conversation that she hopes leads people to the correct conclusion.

1762
01:24:26,320 --> 01:24:28,560
Speaker 5: It's not somebody who's coming in over the top and

1763
01:24:29,160 --> 01:24:31,920
Speaker 5: basically swinging her title around and saying like, we're going

1764
01:24:32,000 --> 01:24:34,120
Speaker 5: to do this. So I think that when you see

1765
01:24:34,120 --> 01:24:36,800
Speaker 5: somebody that involved on the sideline, you do have a

1766
01:24:36,800 --> 01:24:38,920
Speaker 5: little bit of that, oh, is this an interfering owner

1767
01:24:39,360 --> 01:24:41,400
Speaker 5: kind of thing That could not be further from the case.

1768
01:24:41,400 --> 01:24:43,479
Speaker 5: And I will also say this, I was in the

1769
01:24:43,479 --> 01:24:45,519
Speaker 5: locker room for a couple of days talk to a

1770
01:24:45,560 --> 01:24:52,120
Speaker 5: lot of players. Two things, she has that locker room

1771
01:24:52,280 --> 01:24:54,640
Speaker 5: the way a coach, a beloved coach, would have a

1772
01:24:54,680 --> 01:24:57,080
Speaker 5: locker room. And that was so I've been in a

1773
01:24:57,120 --> 01:24:59,280
Speaker 5: lot of locker rooms and a lot of buildings, and

1774
01:24:59,320 --> 01:25:00,519
Speaker 5: that was striking to me.

1775
01:25:02,320 --> 01:25:03,120
Speaker 4: As the owner.

1776
01:25:03,200 --> 01:25:06,800
Speaker 5: To have the building the way the locker room the

1777
01:25:06,840 --> 01:25:09,920
Speaker 5: way that she does is significant and I think a

1778
01:25:10,040 --> 01:25:13,559
Speaker 5: very subtle yet very important power dynamic here. The other

1779
01:25:13,640 --> 01:25:20,200
Speaker 5: thing is I was absolutely impressed, blown away and just

1780
01:25:20,720 --> 01:25:25,600
Speaker 5: moved by the way that the emotional intelligence person to

1781
01:25:25,720 --> 01:25:29,080
Speaker 5: person of that locker room, because you talk to these

1782
01:25:29,120 --> 01:25:33,679
Speaker 5: players about extremely nuanced and complex issues, including mental health.

1783
01:25:33,680 --> 01:25:35,960
Speaker 5: It's all in the story mental health in terms of

1784
01:25:36,240 --> 01:25:38,360
Speaker 5: the spotlight that's on her, and some of the commentary

1785
01:25:38,360 --> 01:25:42,200
Speaker 5: that's being made not always with the U with appropriate framing,

1786
01:25:42,320 --> 01:25:44,559
Speaker 5: especially because she is one of the very few women

1787
01:25:44,600 --> 01:25:47,280
Speaker 5: who are on the sidelines of NFL games and one

1788
01:25:47,320 --> 01:25:49,600
Speaker 5: of the even fewer women who was wearing a headset.

1789
01:25:50,000 --> 01:25:52,880
Speaker 5: The way that they spoke not for her, not in

1790
01:25:52,880 --> 01:25:55,880
Speaker 5: a way that softened her or patronized her or even

1791
01:25:56,560 --> 01:26:00,320
Speaker 5: like maternalized her. They didn't turn her into anything other

1792
01:26:00,360 --> 01:26:02,440
Speaker 5: than who she is. And that is one of them.

1793
01:26:02,600 --> 01:26:05,680
Speaker 5: And I thought it was the most advanced, like the

1794
01:26:05,720 --> 01:26:08,160
Speaker 5: EQ is off the charts in that building, and I

1795
01:26:08,160 --> 01:26:10,400
Speaker 5: think that's special and if they can make the right

1796
01:26:10,439 --> 01:26:13,519
Speaker 5: decisions moving forward, they have something special there.

1797
01:26:13,560 --> 01:26:15,200
Speaker 4: They just need to go out and do it on the.

1798
01:26:15,160 --> 01:26:19,040
Speaker 1: Field and that I think that is maybe the best

1799
01:26:19,120 --> 01:26:21,920
Speaker 1: legacy that she she got from her dad, because there's

1800
01:26:22,880 --> 01:26:26,120
Speaker 1: probably few owners in the last handful of years that

1801
01:26:26,200 --> 01:26:29,639
Speaker 1: have the sort of buying and loyalty like her dad

1802
01:26:29,800 --> 01:26:33,000
Speaker 1: did and bring back a little more ball knowers to

1803
01:26:33,080 --> 01:26:35,120
Speaker 1: be NFL owners. I do think it's a little bit

1804
01:26:35,160 --> 01:26:37,800
Speaker 1: of a problem with like the money that's come into

1805
01:26:37,880 --> 01:26:41,240
Speaker 1: the league, that it's a lot of like billionaires fifth

1806
01:26:41,320 --> 01:26:43,280
Speaker 1: thing that they're doing, and a lot of people are

1807
01:26:43,280 --> 01:26:44,360
Speaker 1: assigned out and she.

1808
01:26:44,320 --> 01:26:46,360
Speaker 5: Shows whereas like she shows up when the coach is

1809
01:26:46,360 --> 01:26:48,360
Speaker 5: shown and in the morning, and she stays until after

1810
01:26:48,400 --> 01:26:48,800
Speaker 5: they're gone.

1811
01:26:49,080 --> 01:26:51,920
Speaker 1: It's one of the reasons why this building exists and

1812
01:26:51,960 --> 01:26:54,000
Speaker 1: we have the jobs that we have. Is like that

1813
01:26:54,400 --> 01:26:58,600
Speaker 1: the men who did own these teams were so like

1814
01:26:59,360 --> 01:27:01,439
Speaker 1: intimately an involved to the point where they would share

1815
01:27:01,479 --> 01:27:03,920
Speaker 1: all the profits with with everyone else. It's like, let's

1816
01:27:04,439 --> 01:27:06,600
Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind if she was super involved. Let's I

1817
01:27:06,640 --> 01:27:10,439
Speaker 1: want some more Al Davis's and even even okay, Mike

1818
01:27:10,479 --> 01:27:12,160
Speaker 1: brown I don't know if we need more Mike Browns,

1819
01:27:12,280 --> 01:27:14,280
Speaker 1: but Paul Brown's at least back in the day, like

1820
01:27:14,640 --> 01:27:17,879
Speaker 1: the uh the owner being that involved and Jim ursay,

1821
01:27:18,120 --> 01:27:20,120
Speaker 1: you know, learned the hard way, but through a lot

1822
01:27:20,160 --> 01:27:22,720
Speaker 1: of mistakes early on, it doesn't seem like she's going

1823
01:27:22,800 --> 01:27:25,840
Speaker 1: to be doing that. And uh, I'm really looking forward

1824
01:27:25,880 --> 01:27:28,519
Speaker 1: to everyone check out that piece. Still got three more

1825
01:27:28,560 --> 01:27:31,120
Speaker 1: games to get to, but these ones not as not

1826
01:27:31,200 --> 01:27:31,960
Speaker 1: as impactful.

1827
01:27:32,160 --> 01:27:35,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, but still a paradentical five minutes for the bowkill

1828
01:27:35,400 --> 01:27:37,080
Speaker 3: at the New York that's chair we might not need.

1829
01:27:37,600 --> 01:27:38,519
Speaker 6: It's thirty eight and a half.

1830
01:27:38,560 --> 01:27:41,120
Speaker 3: Andrew cattle On, Charles Davis and Jason mccordy and aj

1831
01:27:41,240 --> 01:27:42,880
Speaker 3: Ross they're on the call.

1832
01:27:43,400 --> 01:27:46,080
Speaker 6: Uh, Mitchell Trubisky right.

1833
01:27:46,080 --> 01:27:52,519
Speaker 1: Great, Probably it's not confirmed. Sean McDermott said this game

1834
01:27:52,600 --> 01:27:57,599
Speaker 1: is really important to him and to the organization. It's

1835
01:27:57,600 --> 01:28:00,800
Speaker 1: the last game at Ralph Wilson State. I don't even

1836
01:28:00,880 --> 01:28:02,720
Speaker 1: know what the sponsor is at this point. It'll be

1837
01:28:02,720 --> 01:28:05,519
Speaker 1: the Ralph to me forever, and it's going away, so

1838
01:28:05,560 --> 01:28:08,640
Speaker 1: we should call it the Ralph. They're really lucky the

1839
01:28:08,640 --> 01:28:11,000
Speaker 1: schedule makers set up the Jets and the Brady Cook

1840
01:28:11,080 --> 01:28:13,080
Speaker 1: Jets and this version of the Jets right now, because

1841
01:28:13,160 --> 01:28:15,840
Speaker 1: I think they really do want to win, but they

1842
01:28:15,840 --> 01:28:18,840
Speaker 1: really do need to rest key players like Josh Allen,

1843
01:28:19,280 --> 01:28:21,920
Speaker 1: and I think they can accomplish both of those goals,

1844
01:28:22,640 --> 01:28:24,639
Speaker 1: but I don't know if it might be a situation

1845
01:28:24,680 --> 01:28:27,600
Speaker 1: where they play some of the high level starters like

1846
01:28:27,640 --> 01:28:30,000
Speaker 1: a James Cook even for a while and get a

1847
01:28:30,080 --> 01:28:33,439
Speaker 1: lead before pulling them. I don't think they really care

1848
01:28:33,960 --> 01:28:37,320
Speaker 1: about the seed, but I do think they really care

1849
01:28:37,360 --> 01:28:39,360
Speaker 1: about winning the game. I don't think they want to

1850
01:28:39,439 --> 01:28:42,320
Speaker 1: lose to the Jets in the final game of Ralph

1851
01:28:42,360 --> 01:28:43,200
Speaker 1: Wilson Stadium.

1852
01:28:43,240 --> 01:28:44,759
Speaker 2: It would really be a bummer.

1853
01:28:44,840 --> 01:28:45,360
Speaker 6: Thankfully.

1854
01:28:45,400 --> 01:28:48,360
Speaker 1: It's one of the worst, you know, teams I've ever seen,

1855
01:28:48,520 --> 01:28:51,000
Speaker 1: is this Jets team down the stretch, right, I mean,

1856
01:28:51,000 --> 01:28:53,880
Speaker 1: they had the worst four game stretch in Jets history.

1857
01:28:53,920 --> 01:28:55,280
Speaker 2: They think since it says it all.

1858
01:28:55,240 --> 01:28:56,200
Speaker 4: It's dark days over there.

1859
01:28:56,240 --> 01:28:58,240
Speaker 5: I will say this, and I know that a lot

1860
01:28:58,240 --> 01:28:59,560
Speaker 5: of this game we're just kind of going to be

1861
01:28:59,560 --> 01:29:01,280
Speaker 5: talking about vibes because it's gonna be a lot of

1862
01:29:01,280 --> 01:29:06,519
Speaker 5: backups for Buffalo playing. But that's a place where I remember,

1863
01:29:06,840 --> 01:29:08,840
Speaker 5: like you want to go out with a good aura,

1864
01:29:08,880 --> 01:29:11,400
Speaker 5: like with good energy, right, because I remember even when

1865
01:29:11,400 --> 01:29:14,400
Speaker 5: that that stadium was being built, and like people were

1866
01:29:14,439 --> 01:29:18,160
Speaker 5: making quote unquote sacrifices to the pit that it was,

1867
01:29:18,479 --> 01:29:21,920
Speaker 5: the landfill that it was that was being dug in

1868
01:29:22,040 --> 01:29:26,120
Speaker 5: order to facilitate the ground of the floor, the cement

1869
01:29:27,080 --> 01:29:28,439
Speaker 5: I don't even know what I'm trying to say, the

1870
01:29:28,439 --> 01:29:31,759
Speaker 5: cement building blocks of that stadium. People were jumping into

1871
01:29:31,800 --> 01:29:34,360
Speaker 5: it or like leaving gifts for the pit right. This

1872
01:29:34,520 --> 01:29:38,240
Speaker 5: is a superstitious football town and they're gonna come out

1873
01:29:38,000 --> 01:29:40,760
Speaker 5: in like droves for this. It's gonna be a good

1874
01:29:40,800 --> 01:29:43,320
Speaker 5: crowd no matter who the hell is on the field

1875
01:29:43,320 --> 01:29:46,160
Speaker 5: out there, Like, I just think the Bills want to

1876
01:29:46,160 --> 01:29:48,840
Speaker 5: send this out the right way with a total butt kicking.

1877
01:29:49,280 --> 01:29:51,600
Speaker 5: Sadly for the Jets, there's sort of prime to be

1878
01:29:51,640 --> 01:29:52,479
Speaker 5: the victims of it.

1879
01:29:52,840 --> 01:29:56,840
Speaker 1: Eric, you have spent a lot of games, you know,

1880
01:29:56,920 --> 01:30:00,880
Speaker 1: your childhood, flying back here like did here to watch

1881
01:30:01,240 --> 01:30:06,120
Speaker 1: this latest one. Give us a little perspective and what

1882
01:30:06,160 --> 01:30:08,080
Speaker 1: you think it's gonna be like there and what your

1883
01:30:08,120 --> 01:30:08,840
Speaker 1: thoughts are here.

1884
01:30:09,760 --> 01:30:13,000
Speaker 7: It's gonna be a great game. I mean I went

1885
01:30:13,200 --> 01:30:15,920
Speaker 7: because it's the last year I've never been to a game.

1886
01:30:16,000 --> 01:30:17,840
Speaker 7: Got a snow game. Check it off the bucket list

1887
01:30:18,600 --> 01:30:20,519
Speaker 7: at the Ralph correct Greg people call it the raff,

1888
01:30:20,520 --> 01:30:22,559
Speaker 7: the don't call it high Mark new era, whatever it is.

1889
01:30:23,240 --> 01:30:25,200
Speaker 7: But no, if they will want to win this game,

1890
01:30:25,320 --> 01:30:27,799
Speaker 7: Josh Allen loves his iron Man streak, so I definitely

1891
01:30:27,840 --> 01:30:31,040
Speaker 7: think he will start maybe a driver to but they

1892
01:30:31,080 --> 01:30:32,040
Speaker 7: need to win this game.

1893
01:30:32,560 --> 01:30:34,880
Speaker 2: The fans need them to win this game.

1894
01:30:35,200 --> 01:30:37,280
Speaker 7: If they stub their toe against the Jets on the

1895
01:30:37,280 --> 01:30:40,120
Speaker 7: way out of the stadium. You want you think they

1896
01:30:40,360 --> 01:30:44,320
Speaker 7: fans want McDermott fired now if they lose this game, dude,

1897
01:30:44,640 --> 01:30:48,880
Speaker 7: But no, it's yeah, it's interesting going to one. They're

1898
01:30:48,880 --> 01:30:51,439
Speaker 7: gonna feel the spirit. It's interesting. Like the stadium, the

1899
01:30:51,439 --> 01:30:53,639
Speaker 7: new team is right next door. Walking into high Mark

1900
01:30:53,680 --> 01:30:55,280
Speaker 7: a couple of weeks ago, a month ago, whenever it was,

1901
01:30:55,320 --> 01:30:58,880
Speaker 7: it's right there. It's overshadowing, it's looking it's like a

1902
01:30:59,000 --> 01:31:01,800
Speaker 7: it's like a yeah up. High School Stadium is what

1903
01:31:01,800 --> 01:31:04,320
Speaker 7: I would describe high Mark the Ralph now and then

1904
01:31:04,360 --> 01:31:07,840
Speaker 7: you got this big future of what is there looking

1905
01:31:07,840 --> 01:31:09,840
Speaker 7: at you dead in the eye every time you walk in.

1906
01:31:10,320 --> 01:31:11,680
Speaker 7: They need to win this. I mean, think of the

1907
01:31:11,840 --> 01:31:14,200
Speaker 7: Vibes Vibes game. They need to win this game for

1908
01:31:14,240 --> 01:31:15,040
Speaker 7: so many reasons.

1909
01:31:15,040 --> 01:31:16,960
Speaker 1: Think of some of those games in the nineties that

1910
01:31:17,280 --> 01:31:20,919
Speaker 1: were played there and stuff. It is uh, it is special.

1911
01:31:21,640 --> 01:31:24,240
Speaker 7: And Dermy had a quote, He's like, we have a future,

1912
01:31:24,320 --> 01:31:26,679
Speaker 7: but let's not jump out of this just yet. He's

1913
01:31:26,680 --> 01:31:28,439
Speaker 7: been I mean, he he's been around for a while.

1914
01:31:28,520 --> 01:31:30,679
Speaker 7: He got him out of the drought, having the playoffs.

1915
01:31:30,800 --> 01:31:32,559
Speaker 7: You think he's only missed one as time being there,

1916
01:31:32,560 --> 01:31:34,280
Speaker 7: like he's like, I know we got a bright future

1917
01:31:34,320 --> 01:31:36,599
Speaker 7: with this thing, but like, let's not get over next

1918
01:31:36,600 --> 01:31:37,559
Speaker 7: door too quick.

1919
01:31:38,479 --> 01:31:40,920
Speaker 4: I really like with the game, please, I really really

1920
01:31:41,000 --> 01:31:41,280
Speaker 4: like him.

1921
01:31:41,280 --> 01:31:43,320
Speaker 1: That can't be living the Brady Cook and they they

1922
01:31:43,320 --> 01:31:45,240
Speaker 1: are the exam They are always the team I think

1923
01:31:45,280 --> 01:31:47,040
Speaker 1: about the most. I don't know if you just will

1924
01:31:47,080 --> 01:31:49,760
Speaker 1: pop in your head right away, Eric of a famous

1925
01:31:50,080 --> 01:31:52,639
Speaker 1: you never know what's going to happen against backups Week

1926
01:31:52,680 --> 01:31:55,960
Speaker 1: eighteen game, which is when Drew Bledsoe was playing the

1927
01:31:56,000 --> 01:31:59,640
Speaker 1: Steelers and they needed to beat the Steelers' backups to

1928
01:31:59,640 --> 01:32:02,559
Speaker 1: make the playoffs, and the Steelers backups I was at.

1929
01:32:02,400 --> 01:32:05,320
Speaker 7: An ESPN zone, Adaheim, California, is celebrating my birthday.

1930
01:32:05,520 --> 01:32:08,600
Speaker 1: Is then the Willie Parker breakout game. He was like

1931
01:32:08,640 --> 01:32:11,160
Speaker 1: a fourth stringer and they're like, hmm, this guy might

1932
01:32:11,200 --> 01:32:11,880
Speaker 1: be pretty good.

1933
01:32:12,800 --> 01:32:17,719
Speaker 3: Shut out the fast, Willie, that's amazing and shout out too.

1934
01:32:18,240 --> 01:32:21,240
Speaker 3: Teams getting other teams in the postseason, like the Cleveland

1935
01:32:21,240 --> 01:32:24,040
Speaker 3: Browns did, like the Cincinnati Bengals, and Andy Dalton did

1936
01:32:24,040 --> 01:32:26,880
Speaker 3: the Buffalo Bills when he beat the Baltimore Ravens back

1937
01:32:26,920 --> 01:32:29,400
Speaker 3: in the day. It is the Cincinnati Bengals taking on

1938
01:32:29,760 --> 01:32:32,200
Speaker 3: the Cleveland Browns. The Bengals are seven and a half

1939
01:32:32,200 --> 01:32:34,679
Speaker 3: point favorites. The over under is forty four and a half.

1940
01:32:34,680 --> 01:32:37,280
Speaker 3: Tom McCarthy, Logan Ryan, and Amanda Balioni's friend of the

1941
01:32:37,280 --> 01:32:40,719
Speaker 3: show on the call. But the only number anyone cares

1942
01:32:40,720 --> 01:32:44,320
Speaker 3: about in this football game, Jordan is one. Does that

1943
01:32:44,439 --> 01:32:46,120
Speaker 3: one happen against Joe Burrow?

1944
01:32:46,240 --> 01:32:46,439
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1945
01:32:46,439 --> 01:32:49,120
Speaker 5: I think it does, And I also I also think

1946
01:32:49,120 --> 01:32:51,839
Speaker 5: it's kind of fitting for Joe Burrow if it happens

1947
01:32:51,840 --> 01:32:54,320
Speaker 5: to him, If he's the one, based on how his

1948
01:32:54,400 --> 01:32:55,280
Speaker 5: career's gone so.

1949
01:32:55,320 --> 01:32:57,599
Speaker 1: Far, why he takes a lot of sacks? He does

1950
01:32:57,640 --> 01:32:59,840
Speaker 1: take a lot of sacks. Oh, I'm saying, like he can't.

1951
01:33:00,080 --> 01:33:03,360
Speaker 5: He can't win for losing and to be on the

1952
01:33:03,400 --> 01:33:06,599
Speaker 5: wrong side of this history before winning a Super Bowl,

1953
01:33:07,600 --> 01:33:09,200
Speaker 5: like it sucks.

1954
01:33:09,439 --> 01:33:12,439
Speaker 4: That would suck a guy who's.

1955
01:33:12,240 --> 01:33:15,200
Speaker 5: Thinking we talk about vibes, a guy who's constantly thinking

1956
01:33:15,200 --> 01:33:22,360
Speaker 5: about vibes, about clearly universal powers and history, big fossil guy,

1957
01:33:22,800 --> 01:33:23,960
Speaker 5: like this sucks for him.

1958
01:33:23,960 --> 01:33:25,400
Speaker 4: If this happens to him.

1959
01:33:25,520 --> 01:33:28,639
Speaker 1: It's fine. I think it's fine. Who cares who takes

1960
01:33:28,680 --> 01:33:31,240
Speaker 1: the final sack? The only reason we remember Brett Farm

1961
01:33:31,320 --> 01:33:33,160
Speaker 1: is because he slid for it and just gave it

1962
01:33:33,200 --> 01:33:33,479
Speaker 1: to him.

1963
01:33:33,560 --> 01:33:36,920
Speaker 5: I just think, you know these quarterbacks, the way that

1964
01:33:36,960 --> 01:33:39,479
Speaker 5: they're wired, Greg and the stuff that he's been through

1965
01:33:40,200 --> 01:33:42,640
Speaker 5: to have it be to be on the receiving end

1966
01:33:42,680 --> 01:33:46,000
Speaker 5: of this, and sure he says he's having fun whatever

1967
01:33:46,120 --> 01:33:48,599
Speaker 5: like this leaves a sour taste in your mouth. Win

1968
01:33:48,720 --> 01:33:53,639
Speaker 5: or lose again, to have to have this much potential

1969
01:33:53,800 --> 01:33:57,400
Speaker 5: just be wasted year over year. It all connects to

1970
01:33:57,439 --> 01:33:58,080
Speaker 5: each other in terms.

1971
01:33:58,160 --> 01:33:59,519
Speaker 1: To me, it all comes down to whether they have

1972
01:33:59,560 --> 01:34:01,479
Speaker 1: a good off into performance. I don't think he'll care

1973
01:34:01,600 --> 01:34:03,680
Speaker 1: at all if he takes a sack and they win

1974
01:34:03,880 --> 01:34:06,760
Speaker 1: twenty five to seven and he plays well in the

1975
01:34:06,840 --> 01:34:11,840
Speaker 1: last season, Yeah, I think I think that part is

1976
01:34:11,880 --> 01:34:13,720
Speaker 1: going to be important to him. But one thing we've

1977
01:34:13,760 --> 01:34:15,240
Speaker 1: learned about Joe Burrow over the years, he is not

1978
01:34:15,280 --> 01:34:16,160
Speaker 1: afraid to take a sack.

1979
01:34:16,640 --> 01:34:18,880
Speaker 2: That man has has taken too many.

1980
01:34:18,920 --> 01:34:21,920
Speaker 1: It's something he could he could probably improve on here

1981
01:34:22,479 --> 01:34:24,120
Speaker 1: in the second half of his game, and I.

1982
01:34:24,040 --> 01:34:26,280
Speaker 3: Think there's a positive way to spend it if the

1983
01:34:26,280 --> 01:34:30,120
Speaker 3: Bengals get the win, especially after what was we can

1984
01:34:30,200 --> 01:34:34,640
Speaker 3: say an interesting Aaron Rodgers performance that prevented Mile Skearrett

1985
01:34:34,920 --> 01:34:37,240
Speaker 3: from getting that suck for Joe Burrow, who does hold

1986
01:34:37,280 --> 01:34:39,960
Speaker 3: on the ball because he's got two generationally gifted receivers

1987
01:34:40,000 --> 01:34:42,400
Speaker 3: and he likes to attack defenses down the field, is

1988
01:34:42,439 --> 01:34:44,760
Speaker 3: going to continue to do that against the Browns. So

1989
01:34:44,800 --> 01:34:46,360
Speaker 3: he's going to get sacked, but they're also going to

1990
01:34:46,439 --> 01:34:48,160
Speaker 3: get buckets because that's what Joe Burrow does.

1991
01:34:48,200 --> 01:34:52,439
Speaker 5: Listen, all I'm saying, Greg is that I think I

1992
01:34:52,479 --> 01:34:54,720
Speaker 5: think you might be glossing over a little of like

1993
01:34:54,800 --> 01:34:57,240
Speaker 5: what I believe, and you know there are whispers out

1994
01:34:57,280 --> 01:34:59,160
Speaker 5: there the depths of frustration.

1995
01:34:59,640 --> 01:35:03,120
Speaker 1: Sure, I just don't think Miles Garrett sack would would

1996
01:35:03,200 --> 01:35:05,719
Speaker 1: make one big difference or another. I do think winning

1997
01:35:05,920 --> 01:35:08,280
Speaker 1: on this winning streak and having them develop some young

1998
01:35:08,320 --> 01:35:10,880
Speaker 1: players down the stretch, which they have. Amarius Mims and

1999
01:35:10,960 --> 01:35:13,240
Speaker 1: Dylan Fairchild on the offensive line have been playing well,

2000
01:35:13,360 --> 01:35:16,360
Speaker 1: Miles Murphy and Dax Zillman playing well. I think that's

2001
01:35:16,360 --> 01:35:19,800
Speaker 1: all good things for them to.

2002
01:35:18,960 --> 01:35:20,880
Speaker 4: Feel better about Cody four touchdown.

2003
01:35:21,160 --> 01:35:23,320
Speaker 1: And while you're mentioning Andy Dalton and Marvin Lewis, I

2004
01:35:23,360 --> 01:35:25,240
Speaker 1: wanted to point out one thing that annoyed me this week.

2005
01:35:25,280 --> 01:35:27,320
Speaker 1: Everyone was so mad they put the Ravens Steelers on

2006
01:35:27,360 --> 01:35:29,120
Speaker 1: Sunday Night. How could you do that. That game's not as good.

2007
01:35:29,200 --> 01:35:31,960
Speaker 1: This is disrespectful to the forty nine ers and the Seahawks.

2008
01:35:31,960 --> 01:35:34,200
Speaker 1: It's stupid that that's playing Saturday night. That's the teams

2009
01:35:34,240 --> 01:35:35,960
Speaker 1: aren't as good. They're just doing it for raid. No.

2010
01:35:36,320 --> 01:35:39,400
Speaker 1: NBC has been consistent from day one. They will always

2011
01:35:39,479 --> 01:35:42,439
Speaker 1: and only put in a winning in scenario if they

2012
01:35:42,439 --> 01:35:45,439
Speaker 1: have it, including a Bengals Jets game back in the

2013
01:35:45,520 --> 01:35:47,360
Speaker 1: day where they knew one of the teams was rested

2014
01:35:47,439 --> 01:35:50,040
Speaker 1: the starters even though there were better slots, and they

2015
01:35:50,080 --> 01:35:52,439
Speaker 1: were like, no, we will always do a winning in game.

2016
01:35:52,479 --> 01:35:55,760
Speaker 1: And that was a Marvin Lewis versus the Jets. Just

2017
01:35:55,800 --> 01:35:58,719
Speaker 1: a terrible game in week eighteen where now I forget

2018
01:35:58,720 --> 01:35:59,960
Speaker 1: who was even resting their starts.

2019
01:36:00,040 --> 01:36:01,000
Speaker 2: I think it was the Jets.

2020
01:36:01,040 --> 01:36:03,320
Speaker 4: I think that's the fastest I've ever heard of human

2021
01:36:03,800 --> 01:36:04,080
Speaker 4: had to.

2022
01:36:04,080 --> 01:36:06,000
Speaker 1: Get it, had to get it in if I was

2023
01:36:06,120 --> 01:36:08,080
Speaker 1: if you're on one point five speed.

2024
01:36:08,560 --> 01:36:10,880
Speaker 4: Sorry, oh you're in for a ride.

2025
01:36:11,120 --> 01:36:13,240
Speaker 1: I used to get mad about those people, but now

2026
01:36:13,280 --> 01:36:14,240
Speaker 1: I am one of those people.

2027
01:36:14,360 --> 01:36:16,040
Speaker 2: Depending on who yes, yeah.

2028
01:36:16,120 --> 01:36:21,280
Speaker 3: Wow, inside info out of Guardan Greg Rosenthal, the defender

2029
01:36:21,360 --> 01:36:23,759
Speaker 3: of the peacock itself, shout out to Greg, I'm.

2030
01:36:23,600 --> 01:36:26,120
Speaker 2: Just saying that is the rule. They've been consistent. They

2031
01:36:26,200 --> 01:36:28,439
Speaker 2: do that every year, so it wasn't anything unique.

2032
01:36:28,720 --> 01:36:30,680
Speaker 3: The King City Chiefs have been in the playoffs every year,

2033
01:36:30,760 --> 01:36:32,679
Speaker 3: not this year. They are five and a half point

2034
01:36:32,720 --> 01:36:36,639
Speaker 3: favors against a woeful Las Vegas Raiders team thirty six

2035
01:36:36,680 --> 01:36:40,160
Speaker 3: and a half points. Chris Lewis, Kyle Long, Tiffany Blackman,

2036
01:36:40,320 --> 01:36:42,559
Speaker 3: Kyle Long, they're on the call. Shout out the Kyle Long,

2037
01:36:42,720 --> 01:36:46,200
Speaker 3: who was in our newsroom the other day getting ready

2038
01:36:46,200 --> 01:36:49,000
Speaker 3: for the Netflix game. He goes over to see Puma,

2039
01:36:49,080 --> 01:36:53,240
Speaker 3: who's a stage manager. Extraordinary here. Puma introduces himself and

2040
01:36:53,240 --> 01:36:55,439
Speaker 3: he's like, no, I know who you are. Used to

2041
01:36:55,800 --> 01:36:59,040
Speaker 3: do research for my dad on the Fox pregame show

2042
01:36:59,200 --> 01:37:01,360
Speaker 3: when he was a time any human And he sees

2043
01:37:01,360 --> 01:37:04,040
Speaker 3: Puma for the first time in decades and remembers him.

2044
01:37:04,040 --> 01:37:06,000
Speaker 3: And that was a cool moment before Christmas in.

2045
01:37:05,920 --> 01:37:06,360
Speaker 2: The news one.

2046
01:37:07,320 --> 01:37:08,400
Speaker 4: That's beautiful, but I'm.

2047
01:37:08,280 --> 01:37:09,040
Speaker 6: Glad I got to share.

2048
01:37:09,880 --> 01:37:10,559
Speaker 2: But awesome.

2049
01:37:10,600 --> 01:37:12,400
Speaker 3: We'll also share the fact that he gets to call

2050
01:37:12,520 --> 01:37:16,160
Speaker 3: this game to this moment. And yes, not a lot

2051
01:37:16,280 --> 01:37:16,880
Speaker 3: to talk about.

2052
01:37:17,000 --> 01:37:20,800
Speaker 1: I mean, the Raiders can only hope that if they

2053
01:37:20,800 --> 01:37:24,280
Speaker 1: take Fernando Mendoza number one overall and they lose this

2054
01:37:24,400 --> 01:37:27,479
Speaker 1: game that he could have as legendary a career as Puma,

2055
01:37:28,200 --> 01:37:31,640
Speaker 1: who is one of the legends inside this building. The

2056
01:37:31,720 --> 01:37:34,320
Speaker 1: one real news item other than obviously the Raiders clinched

2057
01:37:34,320 --> 01:37:38,080
Speaker 1: the first pick if they lose this game, to me

2058
01:37:38,280 --> 01:37:40,679
Speaker 1: was Andy Reid just making it as clear as humanly

2059
01:37:40,680 --> 01:37:41,479
Speaker 1: possible this week.

2060
01:37:41,520 --> 01:37:43,599
Speaker 2: I am back. I'm going to be back as long

2061
01:37:43,640 --> 01:37:45,280
Speaker 2: as they have me. I am back.

2062
01:37:45,400 --> 01:37:49,519
Speaker 1: And they said it in no ifs ands or butts,

2063
01:37:49,520 --> 01:37:51,320
Speaker 1: so to me, that was kind of my big takeaway

2064
01:37:51,600 --> 01:37:55,719
Speaker 1: other than the fact that the offensive coordinator of the Raiders,

2065
01:37:55,760 --> 01:37:58,320
Speaker 1: your guy, Chip Kelly, is back in the biz. He

2066
01:37:58,400 --> 01:38:01,960
Speaker 1: just loves ball. Did you see where he where? It

2067
01:38:02,120 --> 01:38:04,360
Speaker 1: is almost too hard to believe. He is the offensive

2068
01:38:04,400 --> 01:38:06,840
Speaker 1: coordinator of the Northwestern Wildcats.

2069
01:38:07,360 --> 01:38:10,280
Speaker 5: That's another win for the Walter Kronkite School of Journalism

2070
01:38:10,360 --> 01:38:11,320
Speaker 5: at Arizona State.

2071
01:38:11,840 --> 01:38:13,040
Speaker 2: What a career he has had.

2072
01:38:13,160 --> 01:38:17,280
Speaker 1: I mean, he's collected a lot of money from Mark Davis.

2073
01:38:17,320 --> 01:38:19,760
Speaker 1: That's a man that loves ball. I'm sure he's making

2074
01:38:19,760 --> 01:38:24,000
Speaker 1: plenty of money from Northwestern too. But yeah, he's not

2075
01:38:24,080 --> 01:38:25,439
Speaker 1: the coach, he's the coordinator.

2076
01:38:25,479 --> 01:38:27,240
Speaker 3: No, I was just making sure Pat Fitzgerald's still there

2077
01:38:27,240 --> 01:38:30,040
Speaker 3: so they can bust unions together. Look at that Chip

2078
01:38:30,120 --> 01:38:32,960
Speaker 3: Kelly and Pat Fitzgerald. What a great coaching staff for

2079
01:38:33,160 --> 01:38:37,040
Speaker 3: my rooting interests. Go Wildcats.

2080
01:38:37,680 --> 01:38:39,679
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I got to find three games

2081
01:38:39,720 --> 01:38:43,559
Speaker 1: to pick with Cynthia. I don't think I can do

2082
01:38:43,600 --> 01:38:47,760
Speaker 1: it at taking the Raiders in Week eighteen. But five

2083
01:38:47,800 --> 01:38:49,960
Speaker 1: and a half points for Chris Olidokin.

2084
01:38:49,880 --> 01:38:52,920
Speaker 2: I haven't. I have a sneaky suspicion.

2085
01:38:53,000 --> 01:38:56,000
Speaker 1: I know the Chiefs played their hearts out at Arrowhead,

2086
01:38:56,200 --> 01:38:58,519
Speaker 1: but I saw that Titans game. I have a sneaky

2087
01:38:58,520 --> 01:39:02,240
Speaker 1: suspicion like the Raiders are going to be making their

2088
01:39:02,240 --> 01:39:04,280
Speaker 1: fans sweat at the very least and might just like

2089
01:39:04,360 --> 01:39:06,400
Speaker 1: win this game to blow the pick. That's just it

2090
01:39:06,280 --> 01:39:08,160
Speaker 1: happened so many times in NFL history.

2091
01:39:08,320 --> 01:39:11,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, I did think that Chris Olidlekin played well like

2092
01:39:12,080 --> 01:39:14,439
Speaker 5: I thought, he moved well, he saw the field. Well,

2093
01:39:14,560 --> 01:39:17,679
Speaker 5: it's you know, I have no I would have no

2094
01:39:17,800 --> 01:39:21,599
Speaker 5: doubt that they could win this game, but you never know,

2095
01:39:21,680 --> 01:39:23,519
Speaker 5: the Raiders might do something radary.

2096
01:39:25,320 --> 01:39:26,760
Speaker 2: Five and a half points just a lot for the

2097
01:39:26,800 --> 01:39:27,719
Speaker 2: Kansasity Chiefs.

2098
01:39:27,520 --> 01:39:29,639
Speaker 3: And also David Braun is coaching Northwestern Now Pat fish

2099
01:39:29,680 --> 01:39:30,840
Speaker 3: Gerald has gone to Michigan State.

2100
01:39:30,920 --> 01:39:32,920
Speaker 1: Right, I was gonna say that that. Yeah, that was

2101
01:39:33,840 --> 01:39:36,640
Speaker 1: a strange hire and I think it's going to be ineffective.

2102
01:39:36,680 --> 01:39:39,919
Speaker 1: But this is a pro football podcast.

2103
01:39:40,080 --> 01:39:42,040
Speaker 3: Well, it's important to note because Chip Kelly will be

2104
01:39:42,080 --> 01:39:43,840
Speaker 3: backgard Well, I don't think.

2105
01:39:43,680 --> 01:39:45,719
Speaker 4: He's coming He's invented a new type of offer.

2106
01:39:45,840 --> 01:39:47,640
Speaker 1: I don't think he's coming back to the NFL. But

2107
01:39:47,680 --> 01:39:50,760
Speaker 1: if you think of his career and U n H

2108
01:39:50,840 --> 01:39:54,000
Speaker 1: and the Eagles, and like someone could write a good book,

2109
01:39:54,000 --> 01:39:55,760
Speaker 1: I feel like about a Chip Kelly he would be

2110
01:39:55,840 --> 01:39:58,160
Speaker 1: in that would be interesting to me. Oh, I feel

2111
01:39:58,200 --> 01:39:59,840
Speaker 1: like a Chip Kelly book. I mean he has seen

2112
01:39:59,880 --> 01:40:01,839
Speaker 1: in done a lot of things. It's why that stupid

2113
01:40:01,840 --> 01:40:04,000
Speaker 1: phrase for the Hall of Fame, Well, you can't tell

2114
01:40:04,040 --> 01:40:06,400
Speaker 1: the story of football without him, Like he's got.

2115
01:40:06,280 --> 01:40:06,800
Speaker 2: To be a hall of Fame.

2116
01:40:06,800 --> 01:40:08,600
Speaker 1: It's like that's true of a lot of people that

2117
01:40:08,640 --> 01:40:10,920
Speaker 1: shouldn't be Hall of famers, and ship Kelly's one of them.

2118
01:40:11,000 --> 01:40:13,599
Speaker 1: He's sneaky, been a big part of football the last

2119
01:40:13,600 --> 01:40:14,240
Speaker 1: twenty five years.

2120
01:40:14,240 --> 01:40:16,240
Speaker 6: I'm gonna get Wickersham online one. We're gonna get that

2121
01:40:16,320 --> 01:40:17,080
Speaker 6: Jim Kelly.

2122
01:40:16,840 --> 01:40:18,120
Speaker 4: Book that reminds me.

2123
01:40:18,160 --> 01:40:20,400
Speaker 5: Greg, I wanted to ask you this earlier, and I

2124
01:40:20,479 --> 01:40:22,559
Speaker 5: kept forgetting So we were talking about the Hall of

2125
01:40:22,560 --> 01:40:25,920
Speaker 5: Fame before. Yeah, with with Steve wish you obviously he's

2126
01:40:25,920 --> 01:40:28,880
Speaker 5: got an inside track on a lot of stuff over there, Greg,

2127
01:40:29,080 --> 01:40:30,960
Speaker 5: And you're an avid reader. You talk about like the

2128
01:40:30,960 --> 01:40:34,120
Speaker 5: New York Times book list all and stuff. Would you

2129
01:40:34,280 --> 01:40:39,120
Speaker 5: rather be the person that builds like the definitive reading

2130
01:40:39,160 --> 01:40:41,640
Speaker 5: list every year or would you rather be a Hall

2131
01:40:41,680 --> 01:40:42,400
Speaker 5: of Fame voter.

2132
01:40:43,520 --> 01:40:45,280
Speaker 2: Like a reading list of what like.

2133
01:40:45,280 --> 01:40:47,720
Speaker 4: You know, what's the one the New York Times annuals.

2134
01:40:47,400 --> 01:40:49,639
Speaker 1: Like best Books? Am I writing the New York Times

2135
01:40:49,720 --> 01:40:50,800
Speaker 1: Best Books of the Year?

2136
01:40:51,080 --> 01:40:52,400
Speaker 2: Or am I a Hall of Fame.

2137
01:40:52,320 --> 01:40:54,880
Speaker 3: Voter Greg Rosenthal column at the end of a single

2138
01:40:54,960 --> 01:40:55,960
Speaker 3: year Best Books?

2139
01:40:56,160 --> 01:40:57,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's fully it is.

2140
01:40:58,120 --> 01:41:00,920
Speaker 1: Am I Do I have like healthcare benefits because that's

2141
01:41:00,960 --> 01:41:04,080
Speaker 1: a full time job. If you give me that, yeah,

2142
01:41:04,120 --> 01:41:07,000
Speaker 1: I might. Maybe I'll make that transition. Although then then

2143
01:41:07,080 --> 01:41:09,960
Speaker 1: you're taking your passion and turning it into your career.

2144
01:41:10,439 --> 01:41:12,479
Speaker 5: I don't know, but I would argue your passion is

2145
01:41:12,479 --> 01:41:15,759
Speaker 5: also arguing for and against Hall of Fame candidacies.

2146
01:41:15,240 --> 01:41:18,200
Speaker 1: Right without that sounds attractive, and my current skill set

2147
01:41:18,280 --> 01:41:22,840
Speaker 1: is definitely more well suited for that particular job. I

2148
01:41:22,880 --> 01:41:24,559
Speaker 1: would have to give up all this, and so there

2149
01:41:24,600 --> 01:41:28,280
Speaker 1: was a trick question I'm taking. I'm taking the Hall

2150
01:41:28,320 --> 01:41:31,160
Speaker 1: of Fame one because I got to respect those readers.

2151
01:41:31,200 --> 01:41:33,200
Speaker 1: I would have to quit and say goodbye and NFL

2152
01:41:33,280 --> 01:41:35,120
Speaker 1: daily and I wouldn't get to work with.

2153
01:41:35,200 --> 01:41:37,240
Speaker 4: Well, then we'd get Walker in your chair. It's fine.

2154
01:41:37,320 --> 01:41:39,439
Speaker 1: We give me like a decade we got we gotta

2155
01:41:39,439 --> 01:41:42,800
Speaker 1: prime the pump. We gotta get them ready. Maybe fifteen years.

2156
01:41:42,800 --> 01:41:45,360
Speaker 1: That's a long time, especially in media. All Right, we've

2157
01:41:45,400 --> 01:41:47,439
Speaker 1: done it. We've gotten to the end of the year.

2158
01:41:47,560 --> 01:41:49,840
Speaker 1: We finished our Week eighteen preview. We'll be back though

2159
01:41:50,120 --> 01:41:53,439
Speaker 1: as a trio next week to preview the wild card games.

2160
01:41:53,479 --> 01:41:55,560
Speaker 2: I cannot wait for that.

2161
01:41:57,080 --> 01:41:59,800
Speaker 4: We did it. This is my first regular season on

2162
01:41:59,840 --> 01:42:00,760
Speaker 4: the preview show.

2163
01:42:00,800 --> 01:42:03,320
Speaker 2: Guys, Happy New Year to everyone.

2164
01:42:03,680 --> 01:42:07,120
Speaker 1: I hope you have a absolutely great night and New

2165
01:42:07,200 --> 01:42:10,160
Speaker 1: Year's Day, and we'll be back. I got Alli Connelly

2166
01:42:10,200 --> 01:42:12,519
Speaker 1: talking to All Pro. We got our pic show coming up,

2167
01:42:12,560 --> 01:42:15,040
Speaker 1: so much more to come. Happy New Year,