1 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. This is the Bloomberg 2 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: Daybacurate podcast, available every morning on Apple, Spotify or wherever 3 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 1: you listen. It's Monday, the twentieth of January. Here in London. 4 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 1: I'm Caroline Hepcare. 5 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:21,760 Speaker 2: And I'm Stephen Carroll. Coming up today, Donald Trump plans 6 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:25,599 Speaker 2: to declare a US energy emergency and sign dozens of 7 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 2: executive orders after today's inauguration. 8 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 1: AMASS begins to release hostages from Gaza in exchange for 9 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: Palestinians held in Israeli prisons as a fragile CEASEPHAT goes 10 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: into effect. 11 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 2: Plus more than just a trim, research finds hedge funds 12 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 2: have kept more than half the three point seven trillion 13 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 2: dollars their investments generate. 14 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:49,839 Speaker 1: Let's start with the round up of our top stories. 15 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:52,520 Speaker 1: US presidents elect Donald Trump says that he will sign 16 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 1: close to one hundred executive orders within hours of taking office. 17 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: Later today, the incoming president spoke of his plans a 18 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 1: pre inauguration dinner that was tended by his biggest financial backers, 19 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:09,400 Speaker 1: political allies, and business leaders, including Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos. 20 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 1: Trump also held a rally at an arena in Washington, DC, 21 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: where he set out what he hopes to achieve in 22 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 1: his second term. 23 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 3: Together, We're going to cut your taxes, end inflation, slash 24 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:26,759 Speaker 3: your prices, getting them back down, raise your wages, and 25 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 3: bring thousands of factories back to the USA, right where 26 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 3: they belong. And that'll be done through tariffs and smart policy. 27 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 3: We will build American, we will buy American, and we 28 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:40,320 Speaker 3: will hire American. 29 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 1: Chump also promised to end the quote reign of a 30 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 1: failed and corrupt political establishment in Washington. The events in 31 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: Washington offer Trump a victory lap in the city he 32 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: left four years ago after his supporters rioted at the 33 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:59,639 Speaker 1: US Capitol in a failed bid to keep him in power. 34 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: And we will have live coverage of the inauguration here 35 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: on Bloomberg throughout the day, with President select Donald Trump 36 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 1: taking the oath of office at midday US East Coast time, 37 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: that's five pm in London. 38 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 2: Bloomberg understands are the first focus for President elect Donald 39 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 2: Trump is a plan to declare a National Energy emergency. 40 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 2: Sources say the move will allow the administration to unleash 41 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 2: domestic energy production, reversing President Joe Biden's actions to combat 42 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 2: climate change. According to a report by the Brennan Center 43 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 2: for Justice, declaring up national emergency allows a president to 44 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 2: tap into as many as one hundred and fifty special 45 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 2: powers normally intended to address hurricanes, terrorist attacks, and other 46 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 2: unforeseen events. 47 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:49,639 Speaker 1: Bitcoin has hit a new record high in the last hour, 48 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 1: at topping one hundred and nine thousand dollars per token. 49 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 1: Bloomberg understands that President's elect Donald Trump is planning to 50 00:02:56,720 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: release an executive order once in office, elevating crypto as 51 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,359 Speaker 1: a policy priority and giving industry inside is a voice 52 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 1: within his administration. The record high for bitcoin has come 53 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 1: after a digital token debuted by the President elect rattled 54 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: the cryptocurrency market over the weekend, attracting billions of dollars 55 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: of trading volume while stoking concerns about conflicts of interest. 56 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 2: Donald Trump has also applaus to delay the enforcement of 57 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 2: a national security law that threatened to ban TikTok, but 58 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 2: it remains unclear whether the apps Chinese parent company byt 59 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 2: dances able or willing to secure a US backer in 60 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 2: time to avoid a permanent shutdown. Our Chief North ASA 61 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 2: correspondent Stephen Engel says the president eal x plan is 62 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 2: not without controversy. 63 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 4: We've heard from the House Speaker, We've heard from the 64 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 4: Senate Intelligence head, all saying that it's not legal necessarily 65 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 4: for Donald Trump to extend this by ninety days, but 66 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 4: that Reprieve has a lot of caveats that ninety days 67 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 4: he must go to Congress and essentially get the extensions certified. 68 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 4: He needs to show to Congress that there is a 69 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 4: justified process already in place. 70 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 2: Bloomberg's Stephen Engel speaking there. A ban on the social 71 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 2: media platform kicked in over the weekend, before service was 72 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 2: restored following Trump's promise to sign an executive order granting 73 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 2: another ninety days for TikTok. 74 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: Now to other news, Hamas has released three Gaza hostages 75 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 1: in exchange for ninety Palestinians held in Israeli prisons. The 76 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: swap came after the start of a temporary cease far 77 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: between the two sides. In all, thirty three hostages and 78 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: close to one thousand prisons are expected to be freed 79 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 1: over the next six weeks, with talks to be held 80 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 1: on securing a second phase of the cease far Outgoing 81 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: US President Biden says that it will be up to 82 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 1: Donald Trump's new administration to maintain the ceasefar in Gaza. 83 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 5: Today's ceesfire in Gaza and the release of hostages is 84 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 5: a result of a principal and effective pulse that we've 85 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 5: presided over for months, and we got it without a 86 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 5: wider war in the Middle East than many predicted, and 87 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 5: now falls the next administration to help the implement this deal. 88 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: Biden and Trump have both taken credit for the deal, 89 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:17,919 Speaker 1: with the President Elect's Middle East ENVOYE. Stephen Whitkoff, also 90 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: involved in the final negotiations. According to the Health Ministry 91 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 1: in Hamaswan Gaza, more than forty six thousand Palestinians have 92 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 1: been killed by Israel's military campaign. The will was triggered 93 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 1: in October of twenty twenty three when Hamas attacked southern Israel, 94 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 1: killing more than one thy two hundred people and taking 95 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 1: hundreds more as hostages. 96 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 2: Hedge funds have long been regarded as notoriously expensive. Now 97 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:46,039 Speaker 2: new research is revealing just how costly they are for 98 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 2: their clients. Bloomberg's ta Adebayo has the story. 99 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 6: Of the three point seven trillion dollars in profits they 100 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:56,559 Speaker 6: earned as an industry since nineteen sixty nine. Nearly half 101 00:05:56,800 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 6: or staggering one point eight trillion dollars was gone as fees. 102 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 6: That's according to estimates by LCH Investments, a fund of 103 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 6: hedge funds with soaring assets, firms have raised their charges 104 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:10,919 Speaker 6: to more than fifty percent of gains, up from the 105 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 6: roughly thirty percent they earned until the early two thousands. 106 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:17,919 Speaker 6: The industry's high fees have been criticized by investors like 107 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:22,160 Speaker 6: Warren Buffett and Bill Grosse, who call them unbelievable and 108 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 6: a giant ripoff in London to you what at a 109 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 6: buyot Bloomberg Radio. 110 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 1: And those are our top stories for you this morning. 111 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: Looking at the markets, we had a strong finished last 112 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 1: week for the S and P five hundred. It's best 113 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 1: week since the election. As we go into the inauguration 114 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 1: of Donald Trump today. Of course, there is no cash 115 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 1: equity market or cash treasury is trading today because of 116 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: the national holiday in the US. Stop futures for Europe 117 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 1: are slightly high this morning. Bitcoin through that are record high, 118 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 1: but just off the level now trading at one hundred 119 00:06:56,120 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 1: and eight thousand dollars. All prices are also slight lea 120 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:03,919 Speaker 1: softer this morning and after last week in terms of 121 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: the fifty to one hundred, closing at a record high 122 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: one point four percent. Heart fifty one hundred stop futures 123 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: this morning are slightly lower, down three tens of one percent. 124 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: Those the markets. 125 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 2: In the moment, we'll discuss Donald Trump's plans for his 126 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 2: first executive orders, pust bring you more on the ceasefire 127 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 2: in Gaza taking effect. But first we wanted to just, 128 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 2: of course let you know that the World a Romic 129 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 2: Forum in Davos begins today. We'll have full coverage of 130 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 2: cross Bloomberg's platforms over the coming days and bring you 131 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 2: some top interviews from the event as well. But there's 132 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 2: two great articles to read on Bloomberg this morning if 133 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 2: you want to think about how this event is going 134 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 2: to play out. One is about how CEOs are preparing 135 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 2: for Donald Trump's return, overshadowing perhaps our discussions at Davos, 136 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 2: and how this time around there embracing them him much 137 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 2: more enthusiastically than they did eighty years ago. 138 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you can understand an immensely difficult position 139 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: that executives are in, having to deal with the change, 140 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: the real big age in political weather. One of our pieces, though, 141 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: talking about how many executives are even pre groveling to 142 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: Donald Trump, and that their positions are shifting quite swiftly. 143 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 2: Now yeah, I mean the headline were you lying? Says 144 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 2: it all about whether or not CEOs are sticking to 145 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 2: positions they previously committed to. A slightly lighter note, though, 146 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 2: our colleague Ad Stapely from Bloomberg Pursuits has all the 147 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 2: best places that you want to be if you're in Davos, 148 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 2: including the restaurants and some of the parties, and he 149 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 2: has a great story about how to knock into one 150 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 2: with involving Jason Derulo, which I will let you read 151 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 2: Tom Blueberog dot com for a slash pursuit. 152 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 1: Okay, because stuff the highs and loads of Davos, the 153 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 1: pleasures and difficulties. Right. Let's think about, though, President select 154 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 1: Donald Trump and Vice President's elect JD. Vance, who will 155 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 1: be sworn into office today by the US's Supreme Court 156 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 1: Chief Justice John Roberts, of course, following a weekend of 157 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: festivities and rallies with more to come. What a change 158 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: versus Donald Trump's first term, which ended in twenty twenty 159 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: one on with him as a pariah to many in 160 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 1: his own party, joining US now to discuss as Blueberg, 161 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: Senior editor for US Economics and Government, Derek Wallbank, Good morning, Derek. 162 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 1: The inauguration is taking place indoors at the US Capital Rotunda, 163 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: the start of Donald Trump's second term. 164 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 7: Yes, that's exactly right, and that's because temperatures outside are 165 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 7: projected at somewhere around minus three celsius, and that's on 166 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 7: the high side. So it's going to be a very 167 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 7: frosty time in Washington. But, as you said, a very 168 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 7: warm welcome that Donald Trump is getting into his second term. 169 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,319 Speaker 7: A lot of people who had been frigid towards him 170 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 7: are now have now thoughed, and Trump is coming into 171 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 7: a situation rather unlike the one he came in the 172 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 7: first time. Right, Donald Trump has been I think in 173 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 7: his first term you could fairly say he was feeling 174 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:58,079 Speaker 7: it out for a while, trying to figure out how 175 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:02,199 Speaker 7: to operate the leavers of government, openly frustrated by being 176 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 7: blocked and guard railed at many different turns. This time, 177 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 7: he's coming in with a reasonably pliant house in Republican control. 178 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 7: Lightly but there a Republican Senate that seems to be 179 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 7: willing to give him most of what he's looking for 180 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 7: a six ' to three majority on the Supreme Court 181 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 7: in terms of justice is appointed by Republicans, three of 182 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:26,559 Speaker 7: whom he put on the bench himself, and a lot 183 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 7: of the people who were in there to check him 184 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 7: and his White House staff won't be there. So Donald 185 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 7: Trump very much is coming to office ready to do 186 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 7: what he wants to do, feeling like he has a mandate, 187 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 7: and much of official Washington is under his party's control. 188 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 2: And Jack, we've been reporting on some of the things 189 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 2: that Donald Trump plans to do in that first batch 190 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 2: of around one hundred executive orders he's told us to expect, 191 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 2: including measures targeting the energy sector. 192 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 7: Yes, and that's in the first hours, right. There may 193 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 7: be more besides Trump has you mentioned energy? Trump has 194 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 7: said that he wants to unleash American energy. He's going 195 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 7: to do this in a couple of interesting ways. 196 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 6: Right. 197 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 7: So when you're looking at these orders, there will be 198 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 7: some orders to do a certain thing. There will also 199 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 7: be some orders to sort of lay the groundwork to 200 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 7: be able to do what he wants. And so the 201 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 7: energy one would be like that would be declaring an 202 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 7: emergency with related with relation to energy and what that 203 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 7: does is that the emergency declaration allows you to unlock 204 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 7: additional powers and abilities that you would not have in 205 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 7: normal times. The US law tends to be somewhat pliable 206 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 7: when it comes to what the definition of an emergency is. 207 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 7: Courts have generally held that the presidency is allowed to 208 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 7: decide what the definition of emergency is. And so Trump 209 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 7: is going to use that tool to its maximum ability. 210 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 7: You know, we've talked before though about some other things 211 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 7: he wants to do in terms of immigration being stiffer, there, 212 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 7: increased deportations. That's something he said he wants to do. 213 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 7: He wants to take a lot more control over the 214 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 7: federal workforce and career career positions that aren't necessarily political jobs. 215 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 7: One of the things he wants to do is get 216 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 7: everyone back to the office five days a week. So 217 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:25,439 Speaker 7: you can see an awful lot of things that may 218 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 7: be coming up very very quickly for Trump again in 219 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 7: that first in that first little. 220 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 1: Bit, Yeah, and a huge change in tone then coming 221 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 1: and in policy. Foreign leaders and tech titans are sort 222 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 1: of trying to are going to be attending the inauguration 223 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: and you know, trying to follow this change in tone. 224 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:50,959 Speaker 1: Who got Italy's Premier Georgia Maloney. Everybody in Europe is 225 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 1: basically looking to see who is attending what they're going 226 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 1: to be talking about with Trump. 227 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 7: Yeah, and you know, Maloney's somebody I would look to 228 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 7: if I was sort of from a European lens of 229 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 7: somebody who's who has figured out how to talk to 230 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 7: Trump in this two point zero sort of way. I 231 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 7: do think that there is going to be a substantial 232 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 7: amount of hand ringing among those who have been the 233 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 7: target of trump'shire, as well as those who have traditionally 234 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 7: been friends of the United States. You know, if you 235 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 7: look at countries from the United Kingdom to Canada to Australia, 236 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:31,959 Speaker 7: you have a fair number of governments trying to figure 237 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 7: out how they're going to deal with this guy, with 238 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:39,199 Speaker 7: people in major positions of power, be those foreign secretaries, 239 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 7: be those ambassador roles, who have said some things about 240 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 7: Donald Trump that Donald Trump knows they've said about him, right, 241 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 7: And that's causing no end of difficulty in some of 242 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:52,719 Speaker 7: these countries. So that's going to be a thing that 243 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 7: people are going to have to try and figure out 244 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 7: how do you engage this guy, especially if you're of 245 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 7: the view that what he is doing is bad, wrong, repugnant, 246 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 7: whatever it might be. But you still need to figure 247 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 7: out a way to work with the United States. That's 248 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 7: going to be a very big pickle for a lot 249 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 7: of these countries and indeed companies. And what we're seeing, 250 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 7: as you rightly said, is that we're seeing an initial 251 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 7: courtship at the start of this presidency. 252 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 2: Okay, Derek Wellbank, Garsenior Editor, thank you very much. 253 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 1: Now let's go to the Middle East, where a six 254 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 1: weeks cease far between Israel Hamas appears to be holding 255 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 1: after it came into a fate yesterday, perhaps in some 256 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 1: measure also a major change given the new White House administration. 257 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 1: Our correspondent Oliver Crook is live this morning at the 258 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: Korem Shalom crossing in southern Israel, which has been a 259 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 1: key access point for humanitarian aid coming into Gaza from Egypt. 260 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 1: A good morning, Oliver, thanks for being with us. What 261 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: is the situation where you are this morning? What changes 262 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 1: with this cease fire? 263 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 8: Yeah, so listen, a lot of changes with the ceasefire, 264 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 8: and the sort of first ab dnce we had of 265 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 8: that with yesterday was obviously with the fighting stopping, the 266 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 8: sort of gunshots ending over Gaza, despite the fact that 267 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 8: there was delayed to the ceasepire deal that came into 268 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 8: effect about three hours later than originally anticipated. And during 269 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 8: that three hours and during that morning, a number of 270 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 8: people were killed still in fighting in Gaza. So everyone 271 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 8: was really holding their breath to make sure that this 272 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 8: thing could come into action. And now we've just basically 273 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 8: struck the hour of twenty two hours of ceasefire that 274 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 8: has held since the beginning, the release of three female 275 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 8: hostages back to Israel, ninety prisoners from the Palestinian side 276 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 8: being released back to them. And here also critically at 277 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 8: this border crossing, whereas this is at the very sort 278 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 8: of southern point of Gaza, right where it meets the 279 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 8: Egyptian border. This is one of the key flowways of 280 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 8: humanitarian aid. And I just spoke to the manager of 281 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 8: the checkpoint who's expecting basically eight hundred trucks to cross 282 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 8: into Gaza at the various different entrances today, about six 283 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 8: hundred of which we'll be crossing right here where I'm 284 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 8: standing right right now. And to give you a little 285 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 8: bit of context, eight hundred for the day we've had 286 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 8: on an average, according to one of the humanitarian organizations 287 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 8: I spoke to yesterday is about fifty trucks a day, 288 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 8: so that is a significant increase, and really what they 289 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 8: would like to see is a sort of stabilization about 290 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 8: five hundred or six hundred trucks a day to really 291 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 8: get some of that, you know, not only humanitarian aid, 292 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 8: but also just that commercial of this commercial good into 293 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:20,479 Speaker 8: Gaza that has been basically blockaded. 294 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 2: Oliver, What's another part of course, the ceasefire agreement has 295 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 2: been the release of the first three hostages who were 296 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 2: being held in Gaza, on the release of Palestinian prisoners. 297 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 2: I mean, what's been the reaction in Israel to those 298 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 2: first releases of hostages. 299 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 8: I mean, listen, I think the last seventy two hours 300 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 8: and most people were very sort of cautiously optimistic. There's 301 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 8: a lot of sort of held breath. There was a 302 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 8: huge gathering at sort of Hostage Square, one of this 303 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 8: sort of parts of Televiv where you know, hundreds of 304 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 8: people were gathering just waiting and waiting for every update. 305 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 6: You know. 306 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 8: This sort of began at about four pm yesterday and 307 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 8: we're getting the updates from the Red Crosses. They had 308 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 8: been transferred from Hamas to the Red Cross and then 309 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 8: eventually back to Israeli the IDF and then flown back 310 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:07,880 Speaker 8: into Israel, and everyone was obviously sort of overjoyed. This 311 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 8: sort of drives home the fact that, you know, the 312 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 8: first part of this deal is a release of a 313 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:15,159 Speaker 8: total of thirty three hostages, not all of whom are alive, 314 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:17,879 Speaker 8: and there's still ninety seven that are being held in 315 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 8: Gaza at the moment, which is going to be you know, 316 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 8: those will not even all be handed back in the 317 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:25,920 Speaker 8: second second phase of the deal. On the Palestinian side, again, 318 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 8: there is now more than a thousand, almost two thousand 319 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:31,680 Speaker 8: prisoners will be released over the fullness of this cease fire. 320 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 8: And how this is going to work is basically every 321 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 8: few days three or four hostages will be released, and 322 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 8: the same thing sort of in the opposite direction of 323 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 8: prisoners being released until the end of the sort of 324 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:43,919 Speaker 8: ceasefire agreement and hopefully leading to the second phase of 325 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 8: this deal. 326 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 1: So, yes, how likely is it that we will see 327 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:52,199 Speaker 1: this next phase of the deal. There is surely a 328 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 1: significant change with President elect Donald Trump being inaugurated. I mean, 329 00:17:57,080 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: it's thought that there are Israeli settler lead who will 330 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 1: attend the inauguration in Washington, according to one of their spokespeople. 331 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 1: Bloomberg reported on that I mean, is the Trump White 332 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 1: House going to be significantly more favorable to Israel? What 333 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 1: do we think about the next part of the cease far? 334 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 8: I mean, I think there is reason to believe that 335 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 8: that is the case, that Trump will be very sort 336 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 8: of supportive of Israel. I think that most of the 337 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 8: people that you speak to here are extremely favorable towards 338 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 8: Donald Trump, are really sort of happy about the fact 339 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:31,719 Speaker 8: that he has been elected president of the United States. 340 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 8: That is not to say that they really dislike Joe Biden, 341 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:36,160 Speaker 8: but they really find that Donald Trump is a stronger 342 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 8: ally to the state of Israel. And I think it's 343 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 8: very difficult to deny the fact and not sort of 344 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 8: take into account that this sort of deal came into 345 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 8: being basically with ramped up pressure over the last month. 346 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 8: Many of the people here credit that largely to Donald Trump, 347 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 8: and even Benjamin Netanyahoo when the deal went through, he 348 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:54,679 Speaker 8: called Trump first who and he issued a statement he 349 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 8: was a lot of praise towards Trump, and at the end, 350 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 8: as kind of a footnote, it was Oh and also 351 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:01,119 Speaker 8: thanks to Joe Biden for his help to getting this 352 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:03,920 Speaker 8: over the line, so listen. I think that whatever next 353 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:05,680 Speaker 8: phase comes here, I think that a lot of people 354 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:07,919 Speaker 8: are not that confident that this is going to go 355 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 8: to phase two. In some ways, Phase two is much 356 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:13,159 Speaker 8: harder to achieve than Phase one because it requires the 357 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:16,400 Speaker 8: full withdrawal of Israeli truths from Gaza. Is the Israeli 358 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 8: state really going to allow the security of over Gaza 359 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 8: and to ensure that Hamas has not come back into power, 360 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 8: ensure that to anybody else, Will anybody else be willing 361 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 8: to take on that responsibility? These are going to be 362 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 8: the very challenging questions, and as you say, Caroline, it's 363 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 8: going to be absolutely instrumental the man who will be 364 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 8: inaccurated for President of the United States in just a 365 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:37,160 Speaker 8: few hours in sort of shaping how the rest of 366 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 8: the course of this war goes and how the region 367 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 8: will look in the future. 368 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 2: This is Bloomberg Daybreak Europe, your morning brief on the 369 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 2: stories making news from London to Wall Street and beyond. 370 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 1: Look for us on your podcast feed every morning, on Apples, Spotify, 371 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 1: and anywhere else you get your podcasts. 372 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 2: You can also listen live each morning on London DAB Radio, 373 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 2: the Bloomberg Business app, and Bloomberg dot Com. 374 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:03,160 Speaker 1: Our flagship New York station, is also available on your 375 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:07,919 Speaker 1: Amazon Alexa devices. 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