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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to coast a m

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Speaker 2: That's really cool. How the pearl ages itself?

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Speaker 3: Well, it was a brilliant study by doctor Makaida and

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Speaker 3: it really is the best study of its kind to

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Speaker 3: age any of the giant squid species, which are there

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Speaker 3: five you know, giant squid Arkituthus. Then you got Mescenta

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Speaker 3: Kaituthus HAMILTONI, otherwise known of the colossal squid, and I

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Speaker 3: have plans to go and film that in person. But

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Speaker 3: they're estimated they may reach well over a ton, So

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Speaker 3: that's a that's another BFS species, And and they live

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Speaker 3: in Antarctica primarily, but they also you know, come into

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Speaker 3: the Atlantic Indian oceans as well. But the study by Mark,

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Speaker 3: by you and I to do that was so homegrown

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Speaker 3: and so based. It was like, you know, my friend's

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Speaker 3: a jeweler, I'll take it there and we'll we'll do

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Speaker 3: this together. And it was just absout beautiful. But Michel

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Speaker 3: was how do you know what a layer is? So

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Speaker 3: I never challenged it. I actually helped him a little

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Speaker 3: bit with a study collecting species. But he did such

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Speaker 3: a great job and I care about him he's a

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Speaker 3: wonderful man. So I never actually published any of my concerns.

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Speaker 3: But the bottom line is, how do you know that

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Speaker 3: layer on the statle with is in fact twenty four

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Speaker 3: hour cycle? You don't. It could be a cycle of

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Speaker 3: predation every time it comes up to sunlight. It could

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Speaker 3: be temperature change, it could be a feeding cycle. So

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Speaker 3: you don't really know what every layer on the pearl is.

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Speaker 3: Therefore it kind of sort of negates the whole thing

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Speaker 3: about it. But it is a really good thumbnail. So

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Speaker 3: how long does jis squid live? We don't know. But

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Speaker 3: the only reason that they're not conquered the world and

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Speaker 3: driving around in cars, it's because they only live for

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Speaker 3: a short period of time. The learning speed of a

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Speaker 3: squid is so stunning. I had one ripped my shoulder

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Speaker 3: out of its socket, up it onto my camera and

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Speaker 3: pulling it back. At the time I could bench pus

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Speaker 3: three hundred pounds. I wasn't a whim. I was just

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Speaker 3: I wasn't expecting this level of ferocity. So comes up

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Speaker 3: behind me, grabs my arm and the camera yanks it

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Speaker 3: in back, pulls my right arm out of it soket.

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Speaker 3: Then another one grabs me and it pops back in,

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Speaker 3: So I thank Tim kind of what really, wow? What

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Speaker 3: that's People don't realize how violent these things are. And

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Speaker 3: all the while, they got a beak the size of

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Speaker 3: a man's hand that's trying to remove an orange sized

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Speaker 3: and uses the radula, which is a spike covered tongue

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Speaker 3: And they are problems solving, intelligent like an octopus, but

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Speaker 3: they do so just in predation. So if they can't

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Speaker 3: eat you, they have no use for you, so they

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Speaker 3: leave in about thirty seconds. So all of the footage

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Speaker 3: that you've seen me encounter over the last ten years

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Speaker 3: or ten years when I was researching these animals and

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Speaker 3: filming them, interactions are usually only thirty seconds long, and

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Speaker 3: then you sit in the water wait for the next one.

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Speaker 3: So they you never see a humbold squid by itself.

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Speaker 3: They're like gang members. They're usually one hundred or a

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Speaker 3: you're surrounded by one hundred one hundred pound squid, sometimes

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Speaker 3: two hundred pounds squid that want to eat you. That's

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Speaker 3: the only reason they're there. And they know their great

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Speaker 2: So that's the humble right. How many like yeah? How

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Speaker 2: many giants squid hang out together?

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Speaker 3: They're more loaners solo. Yeah they are, although you know

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Speaker 3: people have seen more than one together. There's another of

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Speaker 3: the of the five giant squid species called Taningia, and

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Speaker 3: and they hang out. And if you capture capture one

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Speaker 2: So who gets to name these? Did you ever get

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Speaker 2: to name one? Because you've seen them.

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Speaker 3: I've discovered species, but I've never named anything. I turned

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Speaker 3: you know, discover several species, and and you know that's

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Speaker 3: one of the things is that I like to protect animals,

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Speaker 3: so That's how I got into hunting poachers, not to

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Speaker 3: kill them. I've never killed any poachers, but you wanted to.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean they're they're discover of the earth.

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Speaker 3: They're they're the clowest people. And I've seen them killing dolphins, uh, sharksening,

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Speaker 3: this basically for the Chinese market. Well what ye said, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: people out there trying to protect from I've gone to

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Speaker 3: protect rhinos from coachers. I've lived there, done that for

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Speaker 3: to protect rhinos. But if you really want to help rhinos,

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Speaker 3: don't buy anything from China. Let China go into economic decline.

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Speaker 3: So they stopped the demand for gorilla feet and you know,

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Speaker 3: to China because they have an economy that has made

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Speaker 3: if you actually want to save an elephant from ivory coaching,

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Speaker 3: stop buying from China. I mean, so that's that's fundamentally

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Speaker 3: the thing is that the great evil on killing animals

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Speaker 3: was them. So I started hunting poachers for prosecution, and

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Speaker 3: working with the army. And so I would literally drop

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Speaker 3: little rebreather and stealthy equipment and listening systems and filming,

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Speaker 3: sell it to China, and I would I put a

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Speaker 3: is why they had a bounty on my head for years.

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Speaker 3: I did this all by myself. It wasn't like a

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Speaker 3: to do this, I would I was a contractor. I

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Speaker 3: would go and do things in war torn areas, usually

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Speaker 3: as a good guy and then I would come back

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Speaker 3: with way too much money and I would spend it

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Speaker 3: living down hunting poachers for months at a time. And

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Speaker 3: I turned that over to friends that I made with

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Speaker 3: thank you. I never claimed, but you're welcome. But I've

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Speaker 3: never claimed anything from it. But I got lots of

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Speaker 2: Well here's the deal with that that I'm thinking is,

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Speaker 2: in order for you to catch them, you have to

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Speaker 2: literally not just videotape them or film them or whatever

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Speaker 2: you're doing there, but you have to actually watch them

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Speaker 2: do it in order to stop them. So you have

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Speaker 2: to see this little massacre before you can turn them in.

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Speaker 3: You know, I really appreciate your heart for being able

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Speaker 3: to think that through and realize that. Yeah, I have

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Speaker 3: had to endure watching that, and you know, I felt

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Speaker 3: like I could crush rocks in my hands. I was

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Speaker 3: that's screaming and begging for his life while it was

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Speaker 3: in a net, while they literally got it and amputated penis,

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Speaker 3: while it's still alive, being held down. How do you

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Speaker 3: not ever unsee that? You can't. So these people are

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Speaker 3: the most cruel people. And I later found out through

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Speaker 3: as a rapist. So if you've got a poacher, they're

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Speaker 3: usually abusive to the people that they're around. They're usually

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, Well the serial killers all killed animals

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Speaker 2: when they were kids.

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Speaker 3: Right, I agree, that's that's completely correct, And thank you

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Speaker 3: for bringing that up. And that's why, you know, when

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Speaker 3: able to go and be in the peace and the beauty,

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Speaker 3: people that hurt. So I was around you know, God's creation,

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Speaker 3: of a submersible that you would not believe. And just

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Speaker 3: new species that are still unknown to science. Nobody still

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Speaker 3: that are just really like what is that? Well, we

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Speaker 2: But yeah, and then bring it up for us Scott,

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Speaker 2: so we can cut it open and see what it is.

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Speaker 2: That's the same way with bigfoot. You know, I'm serious,

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Speaker 2: but that's what they want with bigfoot. They want to

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Speaker 2: away from those people that say that, you know, that's

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Speaker 2: I know the people. They're out there. They're saying they're

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Speaker 2: bigfooters and all they want to do is take one down,

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Speaker 2: but they're playing it off. They just want to find

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Speaker 2: with people that you you better know these people inside

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Speaker 3: Share it, well, you're right. And if I can and

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Speaker 3: I hope you guys are liking some of my crazy stories.

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Speaker 3: I've always prided myself on being partially insane. But the

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Speaker 3: reality is that if you identify species and somebody wants it,

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Speaker 3: I've seen this firsthand. I was working with river monsters,

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Speaker 3: and I was working with a wonderful guy. You guys

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Speaker 3: just absolutely sweetheart. And while we were working with him,

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Speaker 3: to go and scout the squid out. The scientists said, oh,

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Speaker 3: single specimen to take back with me. I don't have

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Speaker 3: a plan for it yet, but I'll think of something.

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Speaker 3: And I looked at this guy and again, I could

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Speaker 3: me and he goes. He calls my name, and I

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Speaker 3: just I just left. I went to the bottle of

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Speaker 3: just watched a scientist quote unquote kill an animal for

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Speaker 3: no scientific value, for the joy of murdering it. And

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Speaker 3: I've seen that a lot. So we put to verify

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Speaker 3: their species. No, DNA should be fine in the watercol

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Speaker 3: you get some hair, you get some video, something like that.

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Speaker 3: But here's the thing. If you know, if a location

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Speaker 3: of these things is found out, the worst thing you

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Speaker 3: be able to properly protect it, yeah, and people will

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Speaker 3: are well protected and guarded, like you know, you know,

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Speaker 3: in places in Mexico that are well protected and guarded

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Speaker 3: places and uh in an island chains that are literally

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Speaker 3: protected by navies and poachers still find a way to

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Speaker 3: go in there and slaughter. So don't we need we

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Speaker 3: need people like me that can go up to Bigfoot

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Speaker 3: if they're found out ands me.

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Speaker 2: You know, we need more of you all over. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we need more of you all over. In fact that

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Speaker 2: some of the other things you're You're welcome. There's other things,

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Speaker 2: thank you. There's other things that you have also. I mean,

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Speaker 2: you're amazing when it comes to underwater like the I

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Speaker 2: think it's the line fish that people have, like just

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Speaker 2: they had maybe in their tank or aquarium and then

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Speaker 2: they put it out into the sea or ocean or

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Speaker 2: wherever they put it, and then those there's a problem

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Speaker 2: with that messing up. It's not supposed to be happening

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Speaker 3: Oh my god. I mean you're completely correct. And I

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Speaker 3: appreciate you knowing that. I love your mind and you're

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Speaker 3: a you're a you're as curious as a child, Connie,

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Speaker 3: and I love that about you. I never lose it.

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Speaker 3: But the lionfish is an evasive species in America and

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Speaker 3: it's primarily on the East coast Florida. All the way

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Speaker 3: trade or even museums that have allowed them to be here,

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Speaker 3: I'm moving in Buffy, my little fish here can't come

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Speaker 3: the amount of eggs that a female can have is stunning.

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Speaker 3: We're talking million eggs per female and they're sexually mature

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Speaker 3: there are no natural predators for the lionfish in this area.

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Speaker 3: And you have an animal winefish that only eat babies,

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Speaker 3: not human babies. They only eat like baby shrimp, baby

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Speaker 3: coral fish, like clownfish. They only eat baby animals in

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Speaker 3: There's no animals to refill like sea bass and grouper

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Speaker 3: and you know, more eel and all this stuff. All

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Speaker 3: those species are declining rapidly because the lions fish, you're

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