Speaker 1: And now go my mic back. You're like that.
Speaker 2: You can strike borders with waters from headquarters behind him
Speaker 2: and the line the border.
Speaker 3: If you're just tuned in the civic cypher, I'm your host,
Speaker 3: Ramsay is Jack, Yes he is, and I am q Ward.
Speaker 1: You are listening to civic cipher. That is the truth.
Speaker 1: Be sure to stick around because we got a lot
Speaker 1: more to talk about today.
Speaker 3: We are referring to the realities of black women and
Speaker 3: asking ourselves some questions, particularly about the mistreatment of black women.
Speaker 3: I do want to take a moment to discuss voting
Speaker 3: in the midterm elections, so stick around for that. Also,
Speaker 3: we're gonna take some time and discuss our way black
Speaker 3: history fact about house music and the very black origins
Speaker 3: of house music. So for those of you are fans
Speaker 3: of Calvin Harris and Vichi and Swedish house Mafia and
Speaker 3: all that sort of stuff, it looks like maybe Beyonce
Speaker 3: and Drake are encroaching on their territory. But I can
Speaker 3: assure you with one hundred percent certainly that is not
Speaker 3: the case. And I have known that for forever. But
Speaker 3: hopefully if you don't know that, you will know it
Speaker 3: after today. Now, first, and foremost, we're going to discuss
Speaker 3: how to become a better ally Baba. Today's Baba is
Speaker 3: sponsored by Hip Hop Weekly magazine. This comes via Anti
Speaker 3: Racism Daily Promote Pay Transparency. Today we're talking about black women.
Speaker 3: Black women make the least amount of money of any
Speaker 3: class of human being in this country, and we're going
Speaker 3: to tell you how to help offset that. One such
Speaker 3: way that you can go about accomplishing that is by
Speaker 3: promoting pay transparency. Pay transparency refers to companies being open
Speaker 3: about the compensation provided for current and perspective employees as
Speaker 3: a step toward pay equity for starters.
Speaker 1: It's increased.
Speaker 3: The awareness of bias and pay inequities. When employee pay
Speaker 3: is no longer a secret, Every little difference in salary
Speaker 3: needs to be accounted for, and what you can do,
Speaker 3: in particular is take action. Many people falsely believe that
Speaker 3: discussing how much you make with your coworkers is prohibited,
Speaker 3: but it is not. This allows pay differentials between privileged
Speaker 3: and marginalized people doing the same work to continue unchecked.
Speaker 3: Pay transparency and equity are crucial because in our society,
Speaker 3: our ability to survive and thrive depends on how we
Speaker 3: are compensated for our jobs. So, in other words, if
Speaker 3: you work at a job and you make money at
Speaker 3: this job, and there are marginalized individuals today we're talking
Speaker 3: about black women specifically, and you've never had a conversation
Speaker 3: about how much you make. A way you can become
Speaker 3: a better ally is say, hey, you and I do
Speaker 3: the same job. Here's how much money I make. Just
Speaker 3: wanted you to know.
Speaker 1: That if you need anything else, how let me, And
Speaker 1: that's how you can become a better ally. Moving on.
Speaker 3: Again, we're talking about harms perpetuated against black women, and
Speaker 3: I do want to get back to that, but I'm
Speaker 3: going to take a slight detour here. We we're going
Speaker 3: to take a slight te toy here, and I want
Speaker 3: to talk about voting for a second. If you know
Speaker 3: the history of this country, which I hope you do,
Speaker 3: and the history of black people in this country specifically,
Speaker 3: or even the history of the show where we talk
Speaker 3: about these things from time to.
Speaker 1: Time, you'll know that.
Speaker 3: Voting if you're a black person is challenging depending on
Speaker 3: where you are, and a black woman's vote is less
Speaker 3: valuable overall because of invisible forces, jerrymandering, the way the
Speaker 3: Senate seats are allotted and other strange relics from a
Speaker 3: bygone era. It allows, you know, a middle class white
Speaker 3: male in South Dakota's vote to count for one point
Speaker 3: seven to three times the amount of a vote of
Speaker 3: a white woman in the South in a poor part
Speaker 3: of you know her state. But voting is still the
Speaker 3: best tool that we have for engaging in the system
Speaker 3: and changing the system it. You know, we can protest,
Speaker 3: and we can, you know, bring attention to matters. We
Speaker 3: can talk on this show all we want, but the
Speaker 3: fact is is that voting remains our most powerful So
Speaker 3: let's talk about that for a second now. As you know,
Speaker 3: voting in the presidential election is incredibly important. That is
Speaker 3: the commander in chief and the position that dictates the
Speaker 3: cultural norms for a country, our country for four.
Speaker 1: Years, and it provides guidance, moral and otherwise for this
Speaker 1: country for that same period of time.
Speaker 3: So I think everyone kind of understands the gravity of that.
Speaker 3: But many, many less people vote in midterm elections. And
Speaker 3: that's unfortunate because that is largely a liberal phenomenon. In
Speaker 3: other words, if you have more liberal views, more liberal ideas,
Speaker 3: you are part of this country In fact, there are
Speaker 3: way more people with liberal views in this country than
Speaker 3: there are folks withservative views. In other words, there are
Speaker 3: more would be Democrats than there are conservatives slash would
Speaker 3: be conservatives. It's just a fact. The thing is, those
Speaker 3: conservatives they vote, they vote often, They make sure that
Speaker 3: their votes are counted, and then they run for office
Speaker 3: to make sure that their votes are counted in such
Speaker 3: a way that it disenfranchises the votes of folks with
Speaker 3: liberal views. It's particularly poor folks, particularly black.
Speaker 1: And brown folks. They also tend to have a better
Speaker 1: marketing department. So the people that vote that way seem
Speaker 1: to all vote the same and want the same things,
Speaker 1: and even if they don't, actually they pretend to very loudly,
Speaker 1: which causes them to turn up, to turn out, to
Speaker 1: participate and to get these outcomes that they desire. From
Speaker 1: the top down, some of the people from the bottom
Speaker 1: who are kind of under the thumb vote, vote, protest,
Speaker 1: march and speak out against their own best interest in
Speaker 1: support of this machine that they're a part of, because
Speaker 1: they feel that included, that important and that valuable two
Speaker 1: said system. That's crazy. Meanwhile, the liberal side of it,
Speaker 1: sadly seems to cannibalize and eat its own criticize its
Speaker 1: own much more frequently, and you end up with a
Speaker 1: bunch of different voices who, even if they do all
Speaker 1: want the same thing, don't realize it, and they end up, yeah,
Speaker 1: pushing each other down or pushing each other out, and
Speaker 1: not finding a way to unite their voices and have
Speaker 1: the same direction, the same goal, or the same proportion,
Speaker 1: if you will. I'm glad you said that, because that's
Speaker 1: where I'm going with this. I'm gonna share some crazy
Speaker 1: stuff with you now. I do want to add something
Speaker 1: to what you said that You mentioned the more conservative marketing,
Speaker 1: the way that they market their messages, and I want
Speaker 1: to make sure that I state that it's often not
Speaker 1: as much marketing as it is fear mongering. They are
Speaker 1: very good at scaring their base into thinking that Mexicans
Speaker 1: are coming over the border to ruin your life, you know,
Speaker 1: and whatever. Black people are all on welfare and that's
Speaker 1: why taxes are high. And they don't.
Speaker 3: Even acknowledge the fact that really corporations and this whole
Speaker 3: capitalistic model is to blame for ninety of the things
Speaker 3: that result in you know what, we're what we would
Speaker 3: consider to be fiscal economic inequity, right, which is, you know,
Speaker 3: sort of the thing most let's care about. But you
Speaker 3: mentioned that, you know, on the liberal side of things,
Speaker 3: folks tend to kind of go back and forth. So
Speaker 3: the reason why these midterms are very important is because,
Speaker 3: as you know, January sixth, twenty twenty one, the United
Speaker 3: States Capitol Building was breached by Trump supporters. These are facts,
Speaker 3: not going to debate them anymore. And when that happened,
Speaker 3: it was the result of Trump telling his base that
Speaker 3: the election was stolen from him, again baseless claim. He
Speaker 3: took it to court all over the country. I forget
Speaker 3: the number of court battles that he had, but it
Speaker 3: was some crazy number and lost every one of them. Right,
Speaker 3: There was no substantial evidence of voter fraud enough to
Speaker 3: change any outcome of any election. There's been fraud, you know,
Speaker 3: minimal fraud in every elections since the beginning of elections
Speaker 3: in this country. But this election, this most recent presidential
Speaker 3: election cycle, was the most safest or the safest election
Speaker 3: on record.
Speaker 1: And that's not to say that all of our elections
Speaker 1: are fair. Just fraud based on the rules that we
Speaker 1: played by, didn't occur. Sure not that the rules that
Speaker 1: we play by are are fair.
Speaker 3: But we still turned out sorry sixty three lawsuits that
Speaker 3: Donald Trump lost ridiculous around the country. And for those
Speaker 3: that are familiar with the January sixth hearings and the committee,
Speaker 3: they realized that, or you rather, you realize that Donald
Speaker 3: Trump actually called people to try to get them to
Speaker 3: manufacture some extra numbers so that he could carry the
Speaker 3: state of Georgia or whatever, and he was told repeatedly, Hey,
Speaker 3: it's just not there, man. The numbers are the numbers,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. They came up with the
Speaker 3: cyber Ninjas and they came to you know, we live
Speaker 3: in Arizona. So they came to Phoenix to the fair
Speaker 3: grounds and you know, they blocked out the fairgrounds and
Speaker 3: the cyber Ninjas were there to recount the election results.
Speaker 3: And guess what the cyber Ninjas found out They weren't.
Speaker 3: He picked the cyber Ninjas that side, the Republicans side
Speaker 3: picked the cyber Ninjas, and they found it the same thing. Yeah,
Speaker 3: he kind of won Arizona, man like it was. It
Speaker 3: was not close. So even the cyber Ninjas picked by them.
Speaker 3: After the fact that he lost, the lawsuits still confirmed
Speaker 3: the same thing. And yet this man still is maintaining
Speaker 3: that the election was stolen from him and that literally
Speaker 3: everybody is working against him, and he has a base
Speaker 3: that that makes it's logical to them, literally everybody is
Speaker 3: working against Donald Trump, rather than literally everybody voted.
Speaker 1: Against Donald Trump in a free and fair election, and
Speaker 1: they also want that to be true, so that confirmation bias. Also, Oh,
Speaker 1: it's real strong like the force that power is real strongly.
Speaker 3: But as a result of that, Donald Trump has used
Speaker 3: his endorsement around the country to endorse candidates that Remember
Speaker 3: I said that these people run for office.
Speaker 1: They don't just vote the more conservative facets of this country.
Speaker 1: They run for elected positions. The strangest thing is a
Speaker 1: lot of these people aren't even campaigning. They don't even
Speaker 1: have a platform that they're campaigning on. It just simply
Speaker 1: says endorsed by Donald Trump. That's their whole thing. That's it,
Speaker 1: And sadly, in a lot of places.
Speaker 3: That's enough.
Speaker 1: That's enough.
Speaker 3: So the reason why I'm telling you this is because
Speaker 3: you need to know I'm not far be it for
Speaker 3: me to tell you who to vote for, but I
Speaker 3: will say, don't vote for Donald Trump. Or anybody endorsers
Speaker 3: because I have a radio show and I can do
Speaker 3: that anyway. He's installing, or rather endorseeing people around the
Speaker 3: country that are election deniers like him, and the result
Speaker 3: of that is the next time he runs, when he
Speaker 3: inevitably gets less votes, as he's done for the past
Speaker 3: two elections that he's run, he can then say, oh,
Speaker 3: the election was stolen, and then he will have people
Speaker 3: all around the country in elected positions because you know,
Speaker 3: folks with more liberal beliefs did not engage in these
Speaker 3: mid term elections. They will be installed and responsible for
Speaker 3: counting those votes. And people like where we live in Arizona,
Speaker 3: Carry Lake is a candidate that will have a degree
Speaker 3: of influence over how elections are tallied and what the
Speaker 3: final reporting will be. And at that point, as I
Speaker 3: mentioned earlier in the show, it doesn't matter how many
Speaker 3: votes we have how we turn out, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean? If they just want to say, okay, well,
Speaker 3: you know this side one they already have shown based
Speaker 3: on their belief of Donald Trump blindly, not the results
Speaker 3: of sixty seven, sixty six court cases, what was it,
Speaker 3: sixty three court cases, not the results of the January
Speaker 3: sixth hearing committee, not the results of the fact that
Speaker 3: nobody has produced anything substantial, not even them.
Speaker 1: They haven't tweeted a thing. They haven't none of that
Speaker 1: they will just be able to. Again, They've shown that
Speaker 1: they're not subscribed to the same reality. And to me,
Speaker 1: that suggests that if they're subscribed to a separate, detached reality,
Speaker 1: that they can invent new facts for the purposes of accomplishing,
Speaker 1: you know, furthering their agenda, and the actual will of
Speaker 1: the people will be thwarted. That to me means that
Speaker 1: this midterm election will set us up for elections for
Speaker 1: the next ten years minimum. Where our votes if you
Speaker 1: have a more liberal philosophy, if you care about people,
Speaker 1: if you have love in your heart and empathy and
Speaker 1: you want to see us all kind of move together
Speaker 1: as brothers and sisters, again a more liberal philosophy, our
Speaker 1: votes count for nothing if this man wins all of
Speaker 1: these or of this side rather wins all of these
Speaker 1: Trump endorsed election candidates and all these places around the country.
Speaker 1: So it's very important to get out there and vote.
Speaker 1: And I want to use an example. You got something
Speaker 1: to a well, Carrie Lake is an awesome example of
Speaker 1: what we've been talking about, let's go with that, we're
Speaker 1: talking about the marginalization of women of black women specifically.
Speaker 1: And then we have Carrie Lake endorsed by Donald Trump,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure that's something that she wears as a
Speaker 1: badge of honor, which is sick like, it's actually sickening.
Speaker 1: The terrifying thing about what's happening with the political lands
Speaker 1: escape in our country is that once upon a time
Speaker 1: there were items, if you were trying to play the middle,
Speaker 1: that you could speak to to garner support from both
Speaker 1: sides of the aisle, if you will. There are no
Speaker 1: such things anymore. There is nothing that we as a
Speaker 1: country stand unified on at all that is insane because
Speaker 1: before we were a Democratic Republican, before we were black
Speaker 1: or white, even, we were just all human beings and
Speaker 1: the human condition used to exist. Right. My mother didn't
Speaker 1: vote for Ronald Reagan. We knew people that did. They
Speaker 1: didn't hate us, and we didn't hate them. Even more recently,
Speaker 1: like George Bush, I was not a Bush supporter. I
Speaker 1: was actually someone that was very critical of the way
Speaker 1: he handled a lot of things. But I know people
Speaker 1: that met him, and even if they couldn't speak to
Speaker 1: him being some scholar or some great politician. They said
Speaker 1: he was a nice person, and in instances where things happened,
Speaker 1: he came out in personal support of people across the
Speaker 1: aisle when they dealt with hardships because he at least
Speaker 1: wanted to appear to be and from the people that
Speaker 1: I've heard it from, I'll take their word for it,
Speaker 1: a genuinely kind person, even if his politics were so much,
Speaker 1: so extremely different from ours. So this is the first
Speaker 1: time in my lifetime that we've been so divided on things.
Speaker 1: Sure that it's that it's it's like gangs. And it's
Speaker 1: kind of even worse than that, right, because there is
Speaker 1: no particular territory that we hold or own that we're
Speaker 1: fighting to uphold. It is literally just ideals, and they
Speaker 1: are so extreme, the opposite of one another. And in
Speaker 1: this case it's not there's good people on both sides.
Speaker 1: As you know, the Idiot in Chief once upon a
Speaker 1: time said, there's not the things that this group stands
Speaker 1: on and believes in are horrible, batter and deplorable and
Speaker 1: obviously terrible things. The things that this side should stand
Speaker 1: on and support are just different. Even the things that
Speaker 1: are political that are like flagrantly political that are in
Speaker 1: their own best political interest, aren't evil in their scope
Speaker 1: as the other side of the aisle, except for things like,
Speaker 1: you know, the often brought up during the presidential election
Speaker 1: crime bill that our current president spearheaded, and some of
Speaker 1: the ideals that he's starting to say out loud again
Speaker 1: that sound a little scary, scarily familiar so to the
Speaker 1: things that he brought to the table back then. But
Speaker 1: you said Carry Lake's name in it. It was an
Speaker 1: emotional trigger because every time I see her picture in
Speaker 1: her face, because we've known Carry Lake for years, not
Speaker 1: as a politician, and she's a TV person out here, Yeah,
Speaker 1: she's a TV person. We do TV too, so we
Speaker 1: know the person out here that if you didn't know
Speaker 1: any better, you'd group in with us. You think you
Speaker 1: were looking at her photographs or if you'd watched her
Speaker 1: on TV before. So the first time I saw a
Speaker 1: sign that said endorsed by Donald Trump and then some
Speaker 1: Republicans putting up another sign that says, but she donated
Speaker 1: money to Barack Obama, was like, Okay, the game that
Speaker 1: they're playing now is very, very different than anything I'd
Speaker 1: ever see.
Speaker 3: So watch this, watch this this is what I found out.
Speaker 3: This is the little secret. You're still gonna blow your mind. Cue.
Speaker 1: So you mentioned our current president and his crime bill
Speaker 1: that he's known for spearheading. You know, so Joe Biden
Speaker 1: gets this crime bill off. It's really harmful for black
Speaker 1: people and brown people in this country. Doesn't necessarily address
Speaker 1: crime in a meaningful way. Just punishes poor people for
Speaker 1: being poor. And you know, the statistics were used to
Speaker 1: scare lots of people. Oh you know, uh, but the
Speaker 1: statistics are are oftentimes a reflection of the people arrested
Speaker 1: for those crimes, not the people committing those crimes, which
Speaker 1: is the most unfair thing. Right, But if you just
Speaker 1: look at the statistics and it's not told to you
Speaker 1: in that way, you think black people are committing all
Speaker 1: of these crimes. No, just arrested for it. In other words,
Speaker 1: crime happens across the board.
Speaker 3: Most of the crime that we classify as crimes crimes
Speaker 3: of people just not having enough and trying to get
Speaker 3: more however they can get it. So we're talking about
Speaker 3: economic things and then in terms of like violent crimes
Speaker 3: things like that. You know, police are the most violent
Speaker 3: domestic abuse people, you know, police officers they beat their
Speaker 3: wives more frequently than anybody else. Right, this is not
Speaker 3: rams is making the sub It's not a stereotype. You
Speaker 3: can google that and Google is super free, so I'm
Speaker 3: employed to do it right now. But police don't get
Speaker 3: arrested for that. And as a result, if you look
Speaker 3: at domestic abuse cases, it doesn't say police or white
Speaker 3: men or you know, whatever makeup of the police police
Speaker 3: forces in this country is, it'll show you who's arrested
Speaker 3: for those crimes. And again that's suggested in such a
Speaker 3: way to where people think that black people are committing
Speaker 3: all the crimes and Hispanic people are committing all the crimes.
Speaker 3: So you know, you got to take even your statistics
Speaker 3: with the grain of salt. But yeah, Joe Biden spearheaded
Speaker 3: this crime bill. Now watch this. What has either allowed
Speaker 3: or forced the Democrats to move away from the far
Speaker 3: left and now away from the center left and to
Speaker 3: really what historically would be viewed as republican territory is
Speaker 3: the fact that the right is moving so far right right,
Speaker 3: and you would think that by holding your ground. Allah, hey,
Speaker 3: Bernie Sanders is running, let's not you know, kick his
Speaker 3: legs out from under him. Twice Let's let the people
Speaker 3: who are most enthusiastic actually vote for the man and
Speaker 3: his platform live and die on its merits, you know,
Speaker 3: based on how the country will receive it. What they've
Speaker 3: chosen to do, the Democratic establishment has chosen to do,
Speaker 3: is fund the far right Republican candidates, so that Carrie
Speaker 3: Lake signage that you were talking about endorsed by Donald Trump,
Speaker 3: the purse. The people rather who bought the donated carry
Speaker 3: Lake donated to Obama signs were Democrats. And the reason
Speaker 3: that this is the Democratic thinking. If they help get
Speaker 3: the Republican kooks past the primaries to the general election,
Speaker 3: then the public that means the left and the center
Speaker 3: will be polarized by these kooks and they will choose
Speaker 3: the Democratic nominee by default.
Speaker 1: They problem with donal Donald Trump became president the United
Speaker 1: States exactly. And that's why you need to get out
Speaker 1: to the polls and let your voice be known as
Speaker 1: often as you can, as often as they do. So
Speaker 1: we're talking about mid terms, but the truth is you
Speaker 1: need to be present, and you need to show up,
Speaker 1: and you need to take this country back. If you regardless,
Speaker 1: would you even if you're like a big fan of
Speaker 1: Cary Lake and a big fan of Donald Trump. If
Speaker 1: that's really how you feel, we'll let the numbers decide,
Speaker 1: And if the numbers really speak for where.
Speaker 3: We are, then I'll take that. I'll take that on
Speaker 3: the chin. But I know for a fact that most
Speaker 3: of the people in this country have a more liberal philosophy.
Speaker 3: Most of the people in this country care about stories
Speaker 3: like Brittany Griner. They care about stories like Breonna Taylor.
Speaker 3: Since we're centering black women, you know, why not keep
Speaker 3: black women in mine the next time you cast your vote,
Speaker 3: which again hopefully will be for this midterm election coming up.
Speaker 1: So moving on, it's time for the Way Black History Fact.
Speaker 1: Today's Way Black History Fact is sponsored by Hip Hop
Speaker 1: Weekly magazine. The story comes to you via The Guardian.
Speaker 1: We're going to talk about house music.
Speaker 3: I know you're probably listening to us on a hip
Speaker 3: hop station, but you know what house music is and
Speaker 3: I know you like it too.
Speaker 1: Don't act like you don't like it. All right, I'll
Speaker 1: tell you a little secret. I love house music.
Speaker 3: I got a chance to DJ some house music in
Speaker 3: Vegas twenty ten, playing in Hollywood. Had a year long
Speaker 3: residency out there before I came here and did TV
Speaker 3: on Channel three in Arizona. Loved every minute of it.
Speaker 3: Happy music man, not mad at it. But you know
Speaker 3: why I wasn't so polarized by it is because I
Speaker 3: knew that house music coming from Chicago and black people, right,
Speaker 3: so it didn't feel like you know, I listened to
Speaker 3: like rock music sometimes I know where it comes from.
Speaker 3: All the any music with the drum comes from Africa, right.
Speaker 3: The drum was the first instrument and the pattern, the
Speaker 3: drum pattern that we all feel most familiar with. The
Speaker 3: four over four account is based on the human heart beat,
Speaker 3: which is why it sounds comforting to us, and it
Speaker 3: sounds erratic when we hear a different type of swing
Speaker 3: to the music.
Speaker 1: You know, so boom boom boom boom boom boom, boom boom.
Speaker 1: That's the heart beat, right, So music is kind of
Speaker 1: based off of that. Humans versus humans were African. All
Speaker 1: this stuff comes from Africa, anyway.
Speaker 3: Let's talk about house music for a second. All right, again,
Speaker 3: this comes from the Guardian. House music had its black
Speaker 3: roots ripped up. Now Drake and Beyonce are reclaiming them.
Speaker 3: The world's biggest black stars have turned to the genre,
Speaker 3: not to pander to white tastes, but to remind fans
Speaker 3: where it came from.
Speaker 1: House music was.
Speaker 3: Born out of Chicago's dominantly black nightlife scene, with the
Speaker 3: godfather of house, Frankie Knuckles, pioneering the distinctive sound. The
Speaker 3: origins of techno two can be traced to Black Detroit,
Speaker 3: and there are still prominent electronic black DJs in the field,
Speaker 3: such as Honey Dejon, Jada d and Seth Truxler. Big
Speaker 3: shout out to Kingbrid as well, That's My Guy, even
Speaker 3: if the majority now form part of an underground movement
Speaker 3: catering to music lovers in the know. So how did
Speaker 3: house become so white? As electronic music grew in popularity
Speaker 3: and started being adopted by international audiences in the nineteen nineties,
Speaker 3: white people slowly started to take ownership of it. But
Speaker 3: the full picture is much more nuanced than appropriation alone,
Speaker 3: the quiet erasure of black influence on the genre. This
Speaker 3: part was in part facilitated by white communities and their
Speaker 3: concerted efforts to shut down black nightlife venues. Sound familiar cute.
Speaker 1: With law enforcement too often unfairly associating these spaces.
Speaker 3: With unwilliness and crime. A trend we continue to see
Speaker 3: with the over policing of grime. Music as a genre
Speaker 3: began to establish itself in the mainstream. In the early nineties,
Speaker 3: the popularity of house went from strength to strength, and
Speaker 3: white folks began to take up space behind the decks.
Speaker 3: Artists such as daft Punk, Pete Tongue and Pete tong
Speaker 3: garnered incredible success from music that sampled black artists and
Speaker 3: became palatable inoffensive faces to reel in white audiences, and
Speaker 3: became sorry and became the palatable inoffensive faces to real
Speaker 3: in white audiences hooked on traditionally black sounds. I want
Speaker 3: to stop right there for a second. When you listen
Speaker 3: to even modern house music, you'll hear the roots of
Speaker 3: house music. I'm gonna do a quick breakdown house music
Speaker 3: started with I think it was a rolling drum machine.
Speaker 3: I kind of know this because I'm a musician as well,
Speaker 3: so I think it was a rolling drum machine. I
Speaker 3: think it was Frankie Nuffs, founded in a pawn shop,
Speaker 3: and it was not a commercial success, so they ended
Speaker 3: up in punch. It's the same type of drum machine.
Speaker 3: Lots of folks around Chicago and other places. Stafford drum machine.
Speaker 3: The default setting was twenty beats per minute, which is
Speaker 3: where you find a lot of house music songs where
Speaker 3: DJ so we talk like this, so just hear us out. Anyway,
Speaker 3: twenty beats per minute was the default sound. And what
Speaker 3: are these black children have in Chicago. Well, they have
Speaker 3: disco music and they have gospel music, and so what
Speaker 3: records can they sample into these drum machines, Big diva
Speaker 3: vocals from gospel and disco sounds. So that's why the
Speaker 3: remnants of house music today are these big vocals. It's
Speaker 3: not these like quiet whispery songs. I mean, you'll find
Speaker 3: them here and there because obviously the genre is grown.
Speaker 3: But those big sing songy vocals think.
Speaker 1: Everybody dance now, Like, try to sing that the way
Speaker 1: that that lady sings it, and you'll realize you cannot
Speaker 1: do that. You need big lungs and some soul and
Speaker 1: some pain in them vocals in order to get that out.
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Speaker 3: This slow whitewashing happened alongside the profound sorry. Happened alongside
Speaker 3: the proudly black fronted explosion of R and B and
Speaker 3: hip hop, which perhaps seeing what happened to House emphatically
Speaker 3: refuse to center white artist, a trend that largely continues today,
Speaker 3: though not without exception. Today, the legacy of this separation
Speaker 3: is seen in white music bands's overidentification with a genre
Speaker 3: that was not built by them, and young black people
Speaker 3: under identifying with it, and the breadth of what black
Speaker 3: music can look like beyond R and B and hip hop.
Speaker 3: This tension is palpable in the electronic nightlife scene. Black
Speaker 3: promoters have spoken out about reportedly being shut out of
Speaker 3: London's biggest nightclubs. In twenty fifteen, Black house producer Felix
Speaker 3: to Housecat accused Berlin's electronic epicenter Bergheim of racism after
Speaker 3: being denied entry, and Solange has shared her experiences of
Speaker 3: hostility and predominantly white spaces after having a lime thrown
Speaker 3: at her at a craft Work concert. Thankfully, initiatives have
Speaker 3: been formed to start championing the black history of these
Speaker 3: pillars of music culture. In twenty twenty, black staff at
Speaker 3: the electronic music website Resident Advisor's Resident Advisor started to
Speaker 3: started a project to highlight one hundred and twenty prominent
Speaker 3: Black producers of the past twenty years after feeling the
Speaker 3: site had historically favored white producers, the Bristol based producer
Speaker 3: I faloa I think that's how I say that, created
Speaker 3: the digital archive for Underground Music to counter his feeling
Speaker 3: that the city so rich in black culture had largely
Speaker 3: whitewashed its influence. Both echoed the sentiment too, that the
Speaker 3: fact that the history of black electronic music had not
Speaker 3: been written by black people meant it too often omitted
Speaker 3: key moments and details of it. Further afield, house producers,
Speaker 3: many hiling from South Africa, such as Uncle Waffles and
Speaker 3: the now veteran Black Coffee, have become aspirational black figureheads
Speaker 3: of the genre, selling out huge shows on the African
Speaker 3: continent and beyond. Perhaps piggybacking on this trend, releases by
Speaker 3: Drake and Beyonce are important, and not because they they
Speaker 3: are a necessity, not because they're necessarily groundbreaking or brilliant.
Speaker 3: Whether you like house music or not doesn't matter. This
Speaker 3: renewed enthusiasm for house is less a matter of taste
Speaker 3: and more a way of regaining ownership of a genre
Speaker 3: that has had its roots ripped from the soil. Seeing
Speaker 3: the world's biggest black stars start a conversation about the
Speaker 3: origins of house music will propel black fans to dig
Speaker 3: deeper into their history and show white people how to
Speaker 3: appreciate it.
Speaker 1: At least we hope, So, yeah, yeah, I agree with that.
Speaker 3: Again, rock music. You know, if you go back to
Speaker 3: a lot of people think that rock music started with
Speaker 3: Elvis Presley, and people don't often credit Chuck Berry properly
Speaker 3: for creating what ultimately is and became a more pronounced
Speaker 3: version of rock music. You know, obviously genres grow, tastes grow,
Speaker 3: and so forth, but the framework, the foundation was did
Speaker 3: not start with Elvis Presley. And now when you think
Speaker 3: of rock musicians you think of you don't think of
Speaker 3: black people very often. So at least there's an effort
Speaker 3: here to try to make sure that this is chronicled
Speaker 3: the right way, which we love, and that that is
Speaker 3: of course your way black history. Fact.
Speaker 1: Once again, I hope we're not our biggest opponents in
Speaker 1: that space, because I've seen the way that people react
Speaker 1: to both albums. Beyonce got better reactions, but Drake to
Speaker 1: push back, and I've listened to the album and I
Speaker 1: enjoyed it, So I'm not sure what everyone was so
Speaker 1: upset about Yeah, well listen to it.
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