Speaker 1: The Around the NFL podcast. It's going to Disney World
Speaker 1: from the Chris Westling podcast studio. It's Around the NFL.
Speaker 1: We back baby. Oh shoot, I am Dan Hansis that
Speaker 1: is Greg Rosenthal? That was not Mark Sessler's voice you
Speaker 1: just heard. I don't think that's Mark um, but I
Speaker 1: can tell you who it is. It's Connie Fox y'all.
Speaker 1: What is this? Rolls with that knocks y'all? She got
Speaker 1: that Connie blow Mary take consel she REPI they and
Speaker 1: Miami traveling. All the glow is Colin Wolf. The history
Speaker 1: is very, very rich. Dang, we should roll with this,
Speaker 1: maraw I believe that. I believe that was the runner up.
Speaker 1: Oh I like this one. Yeah, maybe we'll switch it
Speaker 1: up for this shop. Or we could play this one.
Speaker 1: Jeremy sharp good job, Sharpie. Yeah this one might be
Speaker 1: even better. Oh this was the one that liked right, say,
Speaker 1: it's time in box. But no matter. You know who
Speaker 1: they mean. She's here today on at and talking. It's
Speaker 1: your favorite NFL's lone wolf. He names west wasately upset,
Speaker 1: all right, I think that it needs to be this one. Then,
Speaker 1: well he was legitimately upset with me and you even
Speaker 1: though you were the one in your own uh song.
Speaker 1: Wes had very eclectic music taste and maybe he was
Speaker 1: into bluegrass and country that particular. Sure to it. Um,
Speaker 1: Yes we are back. Thank you to everybody, um for
Speaker 1: checking out all that super Bowl content. That was a
Speaker 1: lot of super Bowl content. You guys were work maybe
Speaker 1: too much, maybe just about the right amount. Greggy, I
Speaker 1: don't know, but people seem to I wanted more on
Speaker 1: super Bowl Night, just like a little more. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: people just like the thin the to be continued ellipses
Speaker 1: dot dot dot um. After we had to basically cut
Speaker 1: shorter super Bowl episode about you know, let's say seven
Speaker 1: or eight minutes because we were told the police were
Speaker 1: pounding down the door. Greg and I and Mark get
Speaker 1: our stuff together. We're like, oh my god, we gotta
Speaker 1: get out. Swing open the door and a completely empty concourse,
Speaker 1: no security, no cops. Did graver make it up. This
Speaker 1: is the first time they broke. They were coming into
Speaker 1: the studio multiple times speaking with aggressive voices, but then
Speaker 1: they left. I don't know. Yeah, the sheriff with his
Speaker 1: big hat and like I'll go home, sheriff, he like
Speaker 1: to like in the stadium. Security came multiple times. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was like you gotta leave, you gotta leave. And
Speaker 1: then a sheriff showed up and we were allowed. Sorry,
Speaker 1: don't miscing true what I'm saying, Greggy. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: it didn't happen. I'm just saying when we swung that
Speaker 1: door open, it was literally we could have been in
Speaker 1: there in the middle of March where the building was
Speaker 1: cleared completely. There was nobody there, so where was this.
Speaker 1: I thought it was like a swat team situation. When
Speaker 1: we got out there, we were gonna have to duck
Speaker 1: und team go. I thought we were gonna open the
Speaker 1: door and the red like dots would be all like
Speaker 1: two and the one in the forehead a little too much,
Speaker 1: and it was just like, what is going on. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I'm glad you guys survived. Scary. Yeah. No, we went
Speaker 1: to the field and we saw the Chiefs, you know,
Speaker 1: in the NFL employees were still enjoying that confetti and
Speaker 1: it was a party. It was. We went down there,
Speaker 1: got some confetti. Colleen. We would have had a chance
Speaker 1: to get you confetti you had and I and I said, Connie,
Speaker 1: a couple of days before the game, you said, if
Speaker 1: you guys, happen to get down on the field, grab
Speaker 1: me some green and white confetti. Yeah, And I said
Speaker 1: that seems jin Xi, and um, I'm not saying it
Speaker 1: manifest good things. How do you? How are you feeling now,
Speaker 1: eight days clear, coming out of the darkness the big game?
Speaker 1: It's been it's been really tough, guys. I've really left
Speaker 1: my house or my couch. It's been even just like
Speaker 1: getting up in the morning and opening the blinds, taking
Speaker 1: a shower like that's hasn't happened pretty much. It that's
Speaker 1: what I can do. But I did something different Santal
Speaker 1: thirty three. You know, Connie, and this is why I
Speaker 1: don't know what that is. That's shamboo um uh. Connie,
Speaker 1: because she's contractually obligated, did have to do a podcast
Speaker 1: with me two days after the Super Bowl, the power
Speaker 1: As Podcast, which you could check out. I loved it.
Speaker 1: I loved every minute of it. And we did discuss
Speaker 1: at length forty eight hours later and post mortem, Um,
Speaker 1: where you felt? And I think I asked you, although
Speaker 1: I don't remember because a lot of things happened since then,
Speaker 1: where that stacks in terms of the worst losses of
Speaker 1: your fan life? Oh? Right? Is that is that? Number one?
Speaker 1: Was that the toughest as a sports fan. Toughest loss
Speaker 1: for me personally, yes, especially being there live watching it
Speaker 1: and to have the tide turn how it did, and
Speaker 1: for everything to be going in one direction so positively
Speaker 1: and with so much momentum, and then for all of
Speaker 1: it to come falling back down. Maybe the best Eagles
Speaker 1: team ever, just like the pure the team I know
Speaker 1: finish it so that I think that makes sense. I
Speaker 1: don't even know what would be. The roster was great,
Speaker 1: they were healthy, everything was going big lead at halftime,
Speaker 1: homes limp into the locker room. Yeah. By the way,
Speaker 1: NFL Films did come through. Talked about this on the
Speaker 1: Sunday Night Show, his NFL Films moment, the slow motion
Speaker 1: run on that scramble to get into field goal range.
Speaker 1: Great job with the music and everything. The Sable Gang
Speaker 1: always comes through. That was obviously anti climactic the ending,
Speaker 1: as we talked about, but the game itself was tremendous
Speaker 1: and to your credit, you texted in the middle of
Speaker 1: that madness, I think you were down UM twenty seven
Speaker 1: at that point and said, this is like the best
Speaker 1: game ever or something. It was still it still was
Speaker 1: one in my mouth. It was the Jets. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: be texting anything, trying to just like keep it together
Speaker 1: at that point. And I was like when when I
Speaker 1: when things are falling apart, I text you guys usually,
Speaker 1: So that's what was happening. I found. Have you found
Speaker 1: yourself avoiding like the like the NFL film stuff. Yes,
Speaker 1: of course, of course. I I you know what I
Speaker 1: found on Monday. I'm not an Eagles fan, but I
Speaker 1: have been rooting for them off and on on this
Speaker 1: podcast quite a and uh, you know, in general over
Speaker 1: the last six or seven years. I have a friend
Speaker 1: that works there and everything, and I the next day,
Speaker 1: the day of, you're always just enjoying the game. It's
Speaker 1: fun for us to cover the Super Bowl. It's great
Speaker 1: to be there. I still love like Patrick Mahomes and like,
Speaker 1: it's all there. And then the next morning I was like,
Speaker 1: I felt like they were not my team, but I
Speaker 1: was disappointed. I didn't want to see any of it.
Speaker 1: It was the champions with the Chiefs. Gere that I
Speaker 1: feel your pain. Greg, You're you know you're you're in
Speaker 1: managing your brand and that you could have had the
Speaker 1: goals over Chief Super Bowl prediction. You could have had it.
Speaker 1: It was all there for both you guys, it was
Speaker 1: and I was just someone just watching it all soaking
Speaker 1: it in. I have to say, oh, it's great for
Speaker 1: me to be an NFL fan. Yeah, I will say,
Speaker 1: like my whole stance going into the game with Patrick Mahomes,
Speaker 1: who's not a jet killer, He's just this great quarterback
Speaker 1: who's in a faraway division, and I enjoy his career
Speaker 1: more as it's no Tom Brady situation for me, Like
Speaker 1: it's fun rooting for greatness. It's kind of how like
Speaker 1: I always rooted for Lebron all through his career, especially
Speaker 1: those against the mega teams, the Warriors teams, and that
Speaker 1: was my favorite, like non personal favorite team game ever
Speaker 1: was Game seven of the sixteen Finals where Lebron had
Speaker 1: the iconic block and it was just like, here's this dude,
Speaker 1: an all time great, perhaps the greatest, and if he's
Speaker 1: not the greatest, season the top five, taking on the
Speaker 1: superior outfit and willing his team to victory. Kind of
Speaker 1: some of those I's here with Mahomes beating the Eagles, Yeah,
Speaker 1: because I think the Eagles were a better team, but
Speaker 1: Mahomes is maybe the Greatest ep. No, so the Chiefs one.
Speaker 1: The Chiefs won the Super Bowl. Everyone. That's another episode
Speaker 1: of the Round the end of podcast. Thank you Colleen
Speaker 1: for joining us. We can contain multitudes. We can appreciate that,
Speaker 1: I know, being disappointed. How how was your week You
Speaker 1: went to Big Bear? I went to Big Bear this
Speaker 1: weekend with my throwback podcast partner Bob Families. It was
Speaker 1: big for the Bear. Big Bear was big for the Bear,
Speaker 1: the old zeuser Um. I posted a photo in the
Speaker 1: in the mountains. I got a lot of pop on
Speaker 1: the gram. Um something good about myself right now? And
Speaker 1: was that you with like a bud light or something?
Speaker 1: It was a madelo. Okay, let's are overseas. Listeners are like,
Speaker 1: cut yourself for real beer mite. It's all right, calm down.
Speaker 1: I don't really like beer, but I had one to
Speaker 1: enjoyed it like those loggers, those Mexican loggers. But the
Speaker 1: kids were sledding and building big fires and in the
Speaker 1: nice house that we all got together, and you know,
Speaker 1: spending good times. This is a great model, su This
Speaker 1: is it right here? Oh my god, it's definitely in
Speaker 1: portrait mode. He's looking off to the side in the
Speaker 1: distance curly. I like it when you let it get curly.
Speaker 1: My partner, my personal partner, Bob, took that photo as well.
Speaker 1: In the woods together. It's like the third half episode
Speaker 1: of the Last of Us. Um, before we get to
Speaker 1: the football. I did want to mention I was at
Speaker 1: dinner and I did text you guys about this, but
Speaker 1: for the listeners, I was at dinner on Sunday night,
Speaker 1: great dinner at the end of the dinner and it
Speaker 1: had had great service the whole time. Mean in it
Speaker 1: was in West Adams. Amazing food, by the way, amazing.
Speaker 1: What kind of food is that? You're my food. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna eat you. Um Chinese, but like like spicy beef
Speaker 1: noodle soup and like crazy spicy hot and sour soup
Speaker 1: and amazing dumplings. There's a few all over the Originals
Speaker 1: in San Gabriel. I don't know. It's a big foodie,
Speaker 1: especially a big spy, tired chef but still in her bones.
Speaker 1: Yes and um. At the end of the meal, he said,
Speaker 1: I just want to let you know, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: a I'm a big fan of the show. After the meal,
Speaker 1: After the meal, right as we're leaving, after we paid
Speaker 1: for the check. I'm a big fan of the show,
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, I'm sorry what happened to West.
Speaker 1: It was a really big fan of Chris. Um I
Speaker 1: grew up near Tybee or either I'd lived near Tybee
Speaker 1: or he had grown up near Tybee and he and
Speaker 1: he said that, and it was Chris's birthday and um,
Speaker 1: and it just felt like I don't know. I immediately
Speaker 1: texted Tis too afterwards, just like it felt like it
Speaker 1: was like Chris saying hello on his birthday to me,
Speaker 1: because nothing like that had ever happened on any meal
Speaker 1: or any day, and for that to happen on Chris's
Speaker 1: birthday and the same Yeah, and we were texting Lukisha
Speaker 1: she had some like personal news, like really good news
Speaker 1: for herself and her family that came out on that
Speaker 1: on the same weekend. Um, Yes, happy birthday, Christopher Westling.
Speaker 1: Uh so that's good. It's nice though. And Greg, oh
Speaker 1: is your birthday too? We share a birthday, yes, right,
Speaker 1: and we share it with Roger Goodell. Happy. It's happy
Speaker 1: birthday to Rid Um you are um forty four? I am, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's good work. Congratulations getting up there, he's getting up there.
Speaker 1: I'm forty two, So now two years difference between us
Speaker 1: until Yeah, your birthday and like four months when is it? No, Well,
Speaker 1: I can't get mad at you. I didn't realize what
Speaker 1: was your birthdays week in April April twenty third, Um,
Speaker 1: thanks blew it. It's like it's like it was like
Speaker 1: it's mitten to late offseason, my birthdays falling on the
Speaker 1: night one of the draft or or in the old days. Um,
Speaker 1: it's your birthday, get on the plane and fly a
Speaker 1: cross country for the draft. I can't imagine how awful
Speaker 1: that is. January second is a great day to have
Speaker 1: a birthday. Baby birthday. Yeah, we occasionally, I think it
Speaker 1: only happened once or twice, but have a birthday together
Speaker 1: West and I at the combine. I remember doing shot
Speaker 1: with West at our first combine together. I think there
Speaker 1: we have a photo of that. Let's joined the company.
Speaker 1: Because you guys were not you were bedfellows in many ways,
Speaker 1: Um like Bob and I m but you weren't. Um
Speaker 1: like West was kind of like a power drinker and
Speaker 1: he would party. That is not you. But the fact
Speaker 1: that you had a shot, Um, Greg was probably feeling
Speaker 1: a little We had We had a bunch that night
Speaker 1: that was that was a wild night. You gotta get
Speaker 1: Greg just one one night this offseason, County, Let's get
Speaker 1: Let's get Greg drunk. I've seen him very close. Let's
Speaker 1: get him drunk though. That's fine, Yes, challenges. I love that.
Speaker 1: I mean, let's pick a day. Okay, then do it
Speaker 1: all right, let's get into we gotta do a podcastcast.
Speaker 1: We're just dcast right here. It literally is um so
Speaker 1: we're gonna get through all the news that's happened in
Speaker 1: the past week plus. I do want to as a
Speaker 1: way to get into things, a reintroduction. Hi, Hello, how
Speaker 1: are you? I want you guys to share with me.
Speaker 1: You're what is like the big offseason story before we
Speaker 1: hit the news that you're like excited about. Like, I'm
Speaker 1: my name is Dan, I'm a Taurus. Okay, let's hear
Speaker 1: your story. Yeah, my offseason story that I'm most interested in,
Speaker 1: non Jets related, but kind of related Lamar Jackson. I
Speaker 1: want to say that. The reason I say it is
Speaker 1: because I feel like we got maybe got a little
Speaker 1: we got a little bit wrong. Um. The last like
Speaker 1: big quote unquote update on Lamar when Harball came out
Speaker 1: in the Presser and Dakasta, you know, and they said
Speaker 1: the two percent chance he's back, and on this show
Speaker 1: we were like, oh, well that's you know, it sounds
Speaker 1: like that that thing's settled down. Everything's gonna be fine there.
Speaker 1: They'll figure out something. And then to the point when
Speaker 1: we had um Bridget on the show, which is increasingly
Speaker 1: looking like maybe a bad decision, not the right choice,
Speaker 1: nobody even brought up the Lamar situation is something that
Speaker 1: we should look in and get a projection on, because
Speaker 1: again we I think this podcast was kind of like, oh,
Speaker 1: the Ravens are gonna get done some more the like
Speaker 1: news you're hearing that's trickling out, and it sounds like
Speaker 1: this is very much still open to Lamar ending up
Speaker 1: somewhere else. Peter King was on Eisen Show last week
Speaker 1: and you know, Kings plugged in and he was thrown out.
Speaker 1: You know what can happen, including Greggy, the possibility that
Speaker 1: the Ravens give Lamar the tag but not the exclusive tag,
Speaker 1: and then allow him to negotiate with another team who
Speaker 1: could then set the terms of the negotiation, and if
Speaker 1: the Ravens choose not to match, they get two first
Speaker 1: round picks. And I'm thinking to myself, the Ravens didn't
Speaker 1: even go that far to let him go talk to
Speaker 1: other teams. Things could get dicey. Yeah. Our colleague, the
Speaker 1: Pell Raiser, Tom Pella Sero, had a similar ISS report,
Speaker 1: basically saying on Super Bowl Sunday, there's a bunch of
Speaker 1: different ways they could attack it that they're expected to
Speaker 1: play the place the franchise tag. But I tend to
Speaker 1: think when these reports come out that that there's some
Speaker 1: information from the team coming, and it does feel like
Speaker 1: they're at least willing to entertain what could happen. Now,
Speaker 1: if I was them, I wouldn't I would place the
Speaker 1: exclusive tag on it. Yeah, and you can still figure
Speaker 1: out a trade potentially if you are open to doing that.
Speaker 1: I think they would be crazy. Two first round picks
Speaker 1: doesn't feel like enough, you know what I mean? But okay,
Speaker 1: so what would be probably wouldn't be a three first
Speaker 1: round pick thing, but like what was the Russell Wilson?
Speaker 1: I feel like that would be someone. Obviously it looks
Speaker 1: silly now with how Wilson played, but I think that
Speaker 1: was two first I think maybe a second, two twos,
Speaker 1: a fifth, And they also got and there were players involved,
Speaker 1: and Noah fan Rush it was the first and a
Speaker 1: second in two drags maybe something considering what the money
Speaker 1: and guaranteed the contract that seems somewhat close. Then if
Speaker 1: it's a two first round pick, then the Ravens don't
Speaker 1: have to be involved with the negotiation and they could
Speaker 1: know for sure like what he's asking that there's teams
Speaker 1: willing to go that far in terms of the guaranteed money,
Speaker 1: we're told reportedly apart right now they know, Well, that
Speaker 1: makes sense to me. So there's a been reports that
Speaker 1: like they were offering one hundred and thirty guaranteed and
Speaker 1: how much did de Shaun Watson get guaranteed? I think
Speaker 1: it was two thirty there it is he wants a
Speaker 1: fully guaranteed contract because because like why why wouldn't you right? Right,
Speaker 1: because here's like the Ravens don't need to find out
Speaker 1: if a team is willing to there are multiple teams
Speaker 1: willing to, and he's still negotiating. I have no question. Well,
Speaker 1: his his mom, right, and they do have like a lawyer,
Speaker 1: you know, but as essentially he's his own agent. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and and Mark is not in obviously today, but um,
Speaker 1: it would perhaps bring him some comfort to realize that.
Speaker 1: And we heard this from UM people. Steve Weish told
Speaker 1: us about this that after the Watson Browns contract was done,
Speaker 1: which was unprecedented in terms of the guaranteed money was
Speaker 1: fully guaranteed, owners were not happy across the league. It's like,
Speaker 1: that's going to set a precedent. Guess what the Ravens
Speaker 1: or the Browns are kind of sticking it to the
Speaker 1: Ravens now because they're getting their feet held to the
Speaker 1: fire by what the Browns did with that Watson guy.
Speaker 1: So there you go. Everything's even now, even Steven. I
Speaker 1: mean they're still stuck with Deshaun Watson and need to
Speaker 1: make that work. Well that's a whole separate thing. But yeah,
Speaker 1: if if I'm Lamar and Kyler Murray's guaranteed money is
Speaker 1: what what was he at one sixty? Yeah, he's at
Speaker 1: one sixty and the Ravens are offering one thirty. I
Speaker 1: totally am with him playing this thing out because the
Speaker 1: reality is there are multiple teams. I think that would
Speaker 1: just give him a fully guaranteed contract because that's what
Speaker 1: it would take to get him. Yeah, I mean, you
Speaker 1: can't get anywhere in this league if you don't have
Speaker 1: a quarterback and they have one right now, so keep him.
Speaker 1: But yeah, you jets being one of them, maybe they
Speaker 1: could be one of them. How about you, Greggy? What? Okay,
Speaker 1: I got a little more specific, so I'm starting to
Speaker 1: do the top one of one list? Are you too?
Speaker 1: I introduce yourself to Greg Rosenthal. I was born on
Speaker 1: February nineteenth, nineteen seventy nine. That makes me and Chris
Speaker 1: and Roge a Pisces. But we're like a cusp so
Speaker 1: gen X, whereas I am a geriatric millennial as a
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty baby. But we're like, I'm with you, I
Speaker 1: think gen X fits better, but we're also like we
Speaker 1: don't really fit the gen X thing totally that we're
Speaker 1: a little too young for that. But what's before Pisces?
Speaker 1: Because we're like cuss babies where we sort of have
Speaker 1: that like cool, laid back dreamer vibe, but we're since
Speaker 1: we're like right on the cusp, we've also got that
Speaker 1: get stuff, gut done vibe too, So it's anyway now
Speaker 1: I kind of believe in that more than anything else. Relative. Yes,
Speaker 1: just also a Pisces. Just wanted to me, I wonder
Speaker 1: joined the party? Did we miss your birthday. Good vibe
Speaker 1: kind up? Oh March seventh, Okay, forget it though, I
Speaker 1: don't need any he doesn't want any gifts. I don't
Speaker 1: need any attention or anything on my birthday. I'll just
Speaker 1: be quiet and then thank you. Justin I don't know
Speaker 1: what you're gonna get plenty attention on that birthday. Aquarius
Speaker 1: is before and my off season storyline. I was wondering.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you bring up, if you go out
Speaker 1: of your way to break into the podcast to say, hey,
Speaker 1: heads up, and I'm also a Pisces and here is
Speaker 1: my birthday now, I just wanted to like join the
Speaker 1: Pisces party. Fun party. It is fun. Um, I don't
Speaker 1: know now we got exactly I'm a Pisces and I'm
Speaker 1: working on a top one on one free agents list.
Speaker 1: Do first draft tomorrow. Put that on the dating profile
Speaker 1: right at the top. Yeah. And I'm interested in how
Speaker 1: Colleen's Philadelphia Eagles are going to handle this off sne
Speaker 1: because I think this is one of the best front
Speaker 1: offices in the league. Um, Howie Roseman is amazing. They
Speaker 1: also assistant general manager Alec Halliby, who's been there and
Speaker 1: been spearheading their analytics department and getting like a new
Speaker 1: promotion each and every year, and it's kind of their
Speaker 1: secret sauce. I feel like there who's been there a
Speaker 1: long time, and I look at them and I feel
Speaker 1: like they're the most interesting team in the entire offseason
Speaker 1: because you have that Jalen Hurts contract sitting out there,
Speaker 1: but you also have a million free agents. I'm doing
Speaker 1: this one oh one less and it's like, oh, okay,
Speaker 1: here's an Eagle. Oh, here's another Eagle, here's another Eagle.
Speaker 1: It's mostly on defense, where you have Jahn Gardner Johnson.
Speaker 1: You have James Bradberry, who's more famous than he was
Speaker 1: a few weeks ago, but was a really good pick up.
Speaker 1: Marcus Epps who's a starter, Javon Hargrave, who's my number
Speaker 1: three overall free agent. You have the guys that you
Speaker 1: identify with the Eagles more than anyone, Brandon Graham and
Speaker 1: Fletcher Cox. Oh, by the way, you have your two
Speaker 1: starting linebackers, Kaiser White and TJ. Edwards, who I think
Speaker 1: they can replace, but they both played well, and you think, okay,
Speaker 1: you're basically restarting on defense, but you still have Isaac's
Speaker 1: Syamala who's a starting guard. You have Miles Sanders, like
Speaker 1: Minshoos their backup quarter. It's just everywhere, and normally you'd
Speaker 1: panic a little bit. So I'm feeling you're triggering. Okay,
Speaker 1: here's the reason why I feel like someone's sitting on
Speaker 1: my chest. Here's the reason why I'm so excited. They
Speaker 1: are not a like, oh woe is me? All this
Speaker 1: stuff is happening to us. They are going to be aggressive.
Speaker 1: I think they could make a lot of trades. They
Speaker 1: are gonna restructure. I think they are a team when
Speaker 1: you look at them and think like, oh, all this
Speaker 1: is happening, how much can they even hold on to
Speaker 1: They'll actually be among the most aggressive teams in trading
Speaker 1: and picking up new freegance just because that's who they are,
Speaker 1: even with the Jalen Hurts contract out there. So I
Speaker 1: think defensively they could be as aggressive as any team
Speaker 1: out there. We thought that they were in trouble last offseason,
Speaker 1: like in terms of like, oh, they've got a lot
Speaker 1: to do, and look at all they added, including a
Speaker 1: Son Reddick, including Arder, Johnson, Bradberry, and I just think
Speaker 1: they are going to be major players over the next
Speaker 1: few weeks. And I'm fascinating because I think they make
Speaker 1: so many good moves. I feel like I didn't hear
Speaker 1: a whole lot of you said, because I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: their offense is basically set, and even losing all those
Speaker 1: guys on defense, they still have a lot, a lot,
Speaker 1: all right, Yeah, and they I think Howie mother Effort
Speaker 1: deserves the benefit of the doubt at this point to
Speaker 1: know the best way to play this. I think I
Speaker 1: think they're gonna be fun. And you see the way
Speaker 1: that quarterback played. Jal Hurts looked great. A stud. I
Speaker 1: know you can get fifty million a year. He's gonna
Speaker 1: get paid here, and then that changes the salary structure again,
Speaker 1: so there is a window. The window. That's what hurts
Speaker 1: still good. It hurts me more after like seeing him grow,
Speaker 1: for him to have one of the best performances in
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl I've ever seen. And someone responded like,
Speaker 1: this has to be right there with Brady against the
Speaker 1: Eagles and Warner against the Steelers as like the best
Speaker 1: performances ever by a quarterback who lost, And I was like, yes,
Speaker 1: that's true, but I also think it's just one of
Speaker 1: the best performances by a quarterback when I did rewatch
Speaker 1: just the Eagles offense, like the coach's film, just because
Speaker 1: I just I wanted to see how he did and
Speaker 1: like that was the best game of his life. It
Speaker 1: was the best game of his life. You can't take out.
Speaker 1: But he gave them six points, right, which is which
Speaker 1: is probably saying it was gonna he played beautifully. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, if you want to start talking about best
Speaker 1: game ever, he produced a huge touch probably why it's
Speaker 1: like not the best performance by a quarterback ever, and
Speaker 1: it's just right there with Brady and Warner and you
Speaker 1: know he doesn't. They didn't have that huge negative plays.
Speaker 1: But he also had five I think pff Adam has
Speaker 1: five or six big time throws in that game by far,
Speaker 1: a career high, like among I think it was right
Speaker 1: there behind one or two games by any quarterback all
Speaker 1: year of the most of any quarterback in any game.
Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, he also rushed for three
Speaker 1: touchdowns and ran for ninety four yards. So yes, there
Speaker 1: is that that negative, but it's like it was a
Speaker 1: crazy performance. I really think it was the best game
Speaker 1: he's ever played in it. He was awesome in the game.
Speaker 1: That turnover maybe it's you can't really play it that way,
Speaker 1: but maybe that's the reason. But it's also a bad
Speaker 1: luck too, like it was totally on him that he
Speaker 1: dropped it, but he happened to kick it right backwards
Speaker 1: and then to earmuffs. Connie. I think if they if
Speaker 1: they don't throw the flag on the third down, Mahome's best,
Speaker 1: I think they win the game. I think they go
Speaker 1: down the field and score, just because I think Hurtz
Speaker 1: was completely locked in at that point. You've lost me
Speaker 1: for the show. All right, just let's let's try to
Speaker 1: move past it. But I think Greg's overall can see
Speaker 1: it is trust the organization to reload and be ready.
Speaker 1: Trust the process, Trust the process. Okay, all right, I'm back.
Speaker 1: I'm back. Okay, guys, um Hello. My name is Colleen
Speaker 1: wolf Um, but I mostly identify as Connie Fox also
Speaker 1: sometimes yeah um. And you know what I remember today.
Speaker 1: Ice Box was my nickname in college, and I totally
Speaker 1: forgot about that. Why ice Box was an ice box ska.
Speaker 1: I don't know why they called me. She was like
Speaker 1: a burly linebacker. Maybe it was because I was a
Speaker 1: figure skater that unless you were in a movie at
Speaker 1: the time when connect But yeah, it's like, oh, that's
Speaker 1: that's me cool. Um So I think the robots have
Speaker 1: already taken over. Um So that obviously is the only
Speaker 1: way that you could explain Tank the dog and the
Speaker 1: dog bite must have been a robot. It's been a
Speaker 1: big couple of weeks for AI. Yeah, yeah, it's popping
Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, popping off big time. And the offseason
Speaker 1: storyline I'm most interested in is I have a bunch
Speaker 1: here because I couldn't. There's so many that it was
Speaker 1: hard to even pick with all of the different quarterbacks
Speaker 1: moving around. And you have Sean Payton now with the Broncos.
Speaker 1: How he makes over that whole place. I'm interested in
Speaker 1: the Niners quarterback situation with Brock Purty and Tree Lance.
Speaker 1: But I think the thing I'm most intrigued in is
Speaker 1: Hard Knocks twenty twenty three. Who will it be? Who
Speaker 1: will it be? Because you know the most there's there's
Speaker 1: only four teams that can do it right. Well, other
Speaker 1: teams can volunteer, but you're right, what are the four teams?
Speaker 1: The four teams? Now, First of all, the teams need
Speaker 1: to have not made the postseason in two straight seasons.
Speaker 1: They need to have the same head coach for at
Speaker 1: least two years, and they need to have not been
Speaker 1: featured are on Hard Knocks in over a decade. I
Speaker 1: wrote that boiler plate forty seven times on our website. Perfect,
Speaker 1: so you should know that by heart. The teams are
Speaker 1: the Bears, the Saints, the Commanders, and the Jets. Yeah.
Speaker 1: If the Jets signed up with one of these big quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: I could see Woody being on a power trip and
Speaker 1: just being like, let us on that show too, let go,
Speaker 1: let's just win the off season quote unquote. He did
Speaker 1: it before when they were hot, when Rex was there.
Speaker 1: We'll get to Rex later too. Yeah. So that that's
Speaker 1: late March, like yeah, like hey Aaron Rodgers, Lamar Jackson, Yeah, um,
Speaker 1: Derek Carr, that announcement's coming on soon, ish, I believe
Speaker 1: I just checked. It happened in late March last year,
Speaker 1: but that was I think a late a late one. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was thinking more in terms of just like this month,
Speaker 1: I don't need the I don't need the Commanders. The
Speaker 1: Saints US could be interesting. I want the Jets. I'd
Speaker 1: be okay with. That's for me. I would watch that.
Speaker 1: That's your the thing you're looking forward to most of
Speaker 1: this entire off season. But also like this is more
Speaker 1: of a like sentimental one. But D'Angelo Hall being named
Speaker 1: the new DV coach in is like something that I
Speaker 1: am so freaking excited about. I'm so happy for him,
Speaker 1: Like I almost started crying because I'm upset that, like
Speaker 1: we're losing him. And he worked with him a lot.
Speaker 1: I worked with him on the Saturday morning show that
Speaker 1: we had when it was a good morning football weekend,
Speaker 1: and that show with Michael Robinson and Mike Garifolo was
Speaker 1: so much fun. We were a little family, just like
Speaker 1: an She had a lot of fun on that show.
Speaker 1: She talks about her I love all of my kids equally,
Speaker 1: all right, all of my children, but I he has
Speaker 1: been since the moment I met DeAngelo. He's been talking
Speaker 1: about how he wanted to get into coaching, or he
Speaker 1: wanted to get into a front office, and that was
Speaker 1: his dream and he's going to chase it. And he
Speaker 1: finally got the opportunity and it's so well deserved and
Speaker 1: he's such a good guy and I just can't wait
Speaker 1: to see him shine. I see that makes a lot
Speaker 1: of sense. I would have thought that his dream was
Speaker 1: listening to Dan and I like fat jokes behind him
Speaker 1: as we watched like a boring Sunday night football games
Speaker 1: in the film room, and he was ready to do
Speaker 1: that show with Chris Rose. Yeah. I always um, I
Speaker 1: was always looking like a break the ice with the
Speaker 1: Angela during the season and if we just woant to
Speaker 1: know and I never connected the dots on the Good
Speaker 1: Morning Football Weekend. I just wouldn't name drop. It would
Speaker 1: have been that we would have been like Thicket the
Speaker 1: key in the back row. Yep. I feel like he's yeah,
Speaker 1: it seems like a nice guy. Greg was trying to
Speaker 1: like kept like trying to bring DeAngelo in like a
Speaker 1: cave on thing, like, hey, we're friends, right, what do
Speaker 1: you do? But it's like, Greg, we sat next to
Speaker 1: each other at the talent summit, so we had, you know,
Speaker 1: a lot of great Oh that's huge. I've sat next
Speaker 1: to Jeremiah twice and it had the opposite effect. So
Speaker 1: it goes either yeah, right, um, all right, let's take
Speaker 1: a break and then we'll get caught up on the news.
Speaker 1: All right, welcome back, let's do some news. So, hey,
Speaker 1: what's up man, how you do? Good? Good true Shoe
Speaker 1: shoe shoe shoo, shots, explosives, explosives you can ride. Um,
Speaker 1: I feel like we're post, especially after your friend Nick
Speaker 1: Sirianni Connie, where Post won the press conference in trying
Speaker 1: to make snap judgments on coaches. So I'm not going
Speaker 1: to do that. That was Jonathan Gannon, former DC of
Speaker 1: the Eagles, who is now the head coach of the Cardinals,
Speaker 1: and that was his first face to face meeting captured
Speaker 1: on social media. Who was it with Rondel Rondel Moore
Speaker 1: and what exactly was going on there for the audience
Speaker 1: that's just hearing the audio, which is bonkers. He just
Speaker 1: walked up to Rondelle and they like sort of dapped,
Speaker 1: and it was an awkward like white DApp Obviously we
Speaker 1: do our best, but it doesn't always. And then all
Speaker 1: of a sudden he speaks after they they do they're
Speaker 1: like little hug and whatnot, and he looks Rondelle up
Speaker 1: and down and then pauses because there's just like an
Speaker 1: awkward silence, and then he just starts going shots, shots,
Speaker 1: shots over here and just like moving with exaggerated hand
Speaker 1: movements and yeah, like all of the different things that
Speaker 1: Rondelle could do, like oh, like in patterns and running okay,
Speaker 1: but like there was no context to it, and he
Speaker 1: didn't even say that. I don't know. Maybe he did
Speaker 1: after the clip ended that we saw, but it was
Speaker 1: the most awkward interaction. I was kind of looking at
Speaker 1: him like he had an elbow growing out of his forehead.
Speaker 1: Like what a first impression there was that. And there's
Speaker 1: also a video of like he finds out that Kyler
Speaker 1: Murcer's back in the weight room when he's just about
Speaker 1: leaving for the airport, and Gannon just starts running. He's
Speaker 1: like he's in there, He's in there, and then the
Speaker 1: camera follows him and people thought this was stage, but
Speaker 1: I really don't think so. And he gets up to Kyler,
Speaker 1: he just starts clapping as much as he can and
Speaker 1: likes all fired up. But I watched the press conference
Speaker 1: and he's got a lot of energy that Jonathan Gannon.
Speaker 1: That's my takeaway, a lot of energy. I like, we're learning,
Speaker 1: you know, we're learning that. Actually, I don't think he
Speaker 1: lost this one. I think that the Cardinals fans were
Speaker 1: kind of like, sweet, it's not like a vaguely depressed
Speaker 1: friend said Cliff. But he always gave off like kind
Speaker 1: of a low energy affect, and that's a very um
Speaker 1: standard firing hiring cycle. You get a guy, it's totally different.
Speaker 1: Gannon is different. I mean, he did catch some criticism
Speaker 1: in Philly Connie. We've talked about that on the show,
Speaker 1: but at the end of the day, he takes over
Speaker 1: his head because the final game it was very similar.
Speaker 1: Reminds me a lot of Now I was gonna say,
Speaker 1: Matt Patricia, Oh, Patricia, that's what I was thinking of.
Speaker 1: Who you know, got blasted by the Eagles, right uh,
Speaker 1: and then on his way to taking that lion's job.
Speaker 1: So is that a that's I don't think it matters,
Speaker 1: but it's not. I think it's a it's a tricky
Speaker 1: it's a tricky job, and you take it a chair
Speaker 1: of thirty two when you can get it. But this
Speaker 1: year is seems like it's gonna going to be a
Speaker 1: very rough year for Arizona with Murray probably out at
Speaker 1: least until the midpoint of the season and maybe longer
Speaker 1: than that. Hopefully the Cardinals play this the right way
Speaker 1: and give Gannon a little bit of grace here to
Speaker 1: get the organization set up before Kyler comes back in
Speaker 1: full the season after but who knows. I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's hard to say what's going on with the Cardinals.
Speaker 1: I know they've made some big changes now in the
Speaker 1: front office and obviously now getting the Kingsbury out of
Speaker 1: the building as well. Do I totally trust that organization
Speaker 1: to get things right. I can't say I do right now.
Speaker 1: I feel like trust. They always do these articles like
Speaker 1: which is the best job and the worst job, and
Speaker 1: I'd ever like that because it's impossible to figure out
Speaker 1: and they're all good jobs. But I think the Cardinals
Speaker 1: is the hardest job. I think he'll have some rope
Speaker 1: because I think their roster is a bigger mess than
Speaker 1: the other four jobs that are available. Everything's wrong with
Speaker 1: that roster, almost like offensive line. The defense is a
Speaker 1: total disaster. Murray's hurt, like there's not much to build around.
Speaker 1: And he hired Eagles linebackers coach. Yeah, he hired Nick Rallis,
Speaker 1: who's twenty nine years old, as his defensive coordinator. That's cool.
Speaker 1: He's a defensive coach anyway, So I'm less focused on that.
Speaker 1: The Browns quarterbacks coach Drew Pizzing is their new offensive coordinator,
Speaker 1: and he was a guy that like had some good
Speaker 1: buzz around the league as just like a smart young mind.
Speaker 1: So he might turn out to be a great coach.
Speaker 1: But he's a thirty five year old and that's a
Speaker 1: huge hire because Gannon is not an offensive guy. In
Speaker 1: other hiring news, the Colts finally finally completed their head
Speaker 1: coaching search and Shane Steichen the Eagles offensive coordinator. So obviously,
Speaker 1: but Greg was saying about the Eagles, it's a big
Speaker 1: offseason at the replace both their coordinators. He takes over
Speaker 1: as the new head coach. Makes sense. He replaces Jeff Saturday,
Speaker 1: who was the ar interm coach. This is a team
Speaker 1: that ranked thirtieth and points per game, twenty seventh and
Speaker 1: offensive yards per game. The quarterback position was got awful mess.
Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor was hurt all year, and now Staken is
Speaker 1: asked to make things all better. Here's a little bit
Speaker 1: of Steakin's opening press conference remarks. Thank you to Nick Sirianni.
Speaker 1: I appreciate everything you've done as a head football coach.
Speaker 1: It was a pleasure to work with you again these
Speaker 1: past two seasons. It was a hell of a ride
Speaker 1: and one all chairs forever. But more importantly, the friendship
Speaker 1: that we've built over the last nine years. Thank you.
Speaker 1: Thank you to the players I've had the privilege to
Speaker 1: be around and coach. Thank you to Philip Rivers. I
Speaker 1: can't say enough about how much you've had impact on
Speaker 1: me as a coach. So many great memories together and
Speaker 1: couldn't be more thankful for our friendship. Thank you to
Speaker 1: Antonio Gates, Keenan Allen, Justin Herbert, and most recently, thank
Speaker 1: you to A. J. Brown, DeVante Smith, Quas Watkins, Zach Pascal, Scoddard, Stole,
Speaker 1: Brent Calcata, Miles Sanders, Boston, Scott, Kenny Gainwell, Jordan Malatta,
Speaker 1: Landon Dickerson, Jason Kelsey, Isaac Suamala, Lane Johnson, and Booked.
Speaker 1: Gardner better be on this list, but not least Jalen hurt.
Speaker 1: Did he go off? And every single one of you guys,
Speaker 1: if you're not on the l I would not be
Speaker 1: sitting here today if it wasn't for you. It's all
Speaker 1: about the players, and it'll always be about the players.
Speaker 1: The sniffs were covering up the other players that he
Speaker 1: didn't answer, So I mean, I I think saying Gardner
Speaker 1: Minshew is the reason why he's there, is not true.
Speaker 1: So I think that this man is a wow. There
Speaker 1: you go. Now, I think it was emotional Dan leave
Speaker 1: him alone. I think leaving Quez out would have been fine.
Speaker 1: You guys are brutal. I would have just named I'm angry.
Speaker 1: They had what like eleven Pro Bowlers, Like just named
Speaker 1: Pro bowlers. Oh well, he was naming the offensive guys. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you saw a lot. You know who reminded me of
Speaker 1: a little bit with Jamal Williams in the sense that,
Speaker 1: like he was incredibly emotional and I like that. And
Speaker 1: if you watch, if you continue to watch the press coffence,
Speaker 1: he's sort of pivoted to like a really hard driving,
Speaker 1: smaller Cessleian intensity, like behind the eyes, just like a
Speaker 1: lot of intensity. So it went from like love which
Speaker 1: I like that is he's in touch with the emotions,
Speaker 1: but also the intensity of a football. So did he
Speaker 1: win the press conference? I liked it. I like there's
Speaker 1: so many parallels to Frank Reich with this hiring too.
Speaker 1: I mean, the Colts hire another Eagles offensive coordinator coming
Speaker 1: off a Super Bowl appearance, someone who has a rep
Speaker 1: for developing quarterbacks. And it's sort of funny that Stiken
Speaker 1: comes from working under Nick Sirianni, who came originally from
Speaker 1: the Colts. So it's all so very kind of incestuous.
Speaker 1: But he'll be calling the plays for what quarterback who
Speaker 1: knows yet that's obviously of that needs to be as
Speaker 1: it's funny. He brought up Phil Rivers and I was like,
Speaker 1: we gotta get Phil back in the mix. I don't
Speaker 1: maybe not said Phil had a lot of mpoint. He
Speaker 1: used the word a lot of put into the hiring
Speaker 1: just because he was like, this guy, as much as
Speaker 1: any coach I've ever been with, is a genius in
Speaker 1: terms of he doesn't need the play sheet in front
Speaker 1: of him. He can look at what's happening on the field.
Speaker 1: And then caught like for Phil Rivers to say that
Speaker 1: Jim Mersey said held a lot of weight, just like that.
Speaker 1: This guy really understands the quarterback position as much as
Speaker 1: anyone I've ever got to get like those sixteen kids
Speaker 1: out of elementary school. And maybe he'll come back. We'll
Speaker 1: see him on the sideline in a bolo tie. Um.
Speaker 1: All right, we're talking about the Super Bowl this year.
Speaker 1: Last year Super Bowl, of course, the Rams were the
Speaker 1: champions and a lot of bad things have happened since then.
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey is one of their many high priced superstar players.
Speaker 1: In on Twitter, um he floated the idea and quickly
Speaker 1: deleted it that he could be traded like I won't
Speaker 1: be cut now traded I can't say, and then immediately deleted.
Speaker 1: But the Internet remember and then and Kevin demoff, our buddy,
Speaker 1: the c O of the Rams, spoke on Ramsey and
Speaker 1: his future with Los Angeles. Jalin's been a huge piece
Speaker 1: of what we've done, and I think for all of
Speaker 1: our players, it's going to be about figuring out what's
Speaker 1: best moving forward. But when you were a team like
Speaker 1: the Rams who's had success, we have a lot of
Speaker 1: great players. People were always inquiring about our talent. And
Speaker 1: it's not just Jalen. We get calls on all of
Speaker 1: our good players. H The brings to mind the famous
Speaker 1: Jamal Adams wanted out of New York because the phone
Speaker 1: was picked up when someone called the high ranking front
Speaker 1: office officials saying, hey, people are calling and we're answering
Speaker 1: the phone. Maybe it does happen. He didn't have a
Speaker 1: very good year this year, Greggy, I think he played
Speaker 1: a lot better down the stretch. I mean PFF would
Speaker 1: tell you that he was the second best cornerback in
Speaker 1: the league to Sauce. I think the last five or
Speaker 1: six games he was pretty dominant. Not people weren't too
Speaker 1: locked into the eight rams under by then, but he
Speaker 1: but he's the first year didn't make the Pro Bowl. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he gave up a lot of big plays. They
Speaker 1: have to do a lot. I think he'd have extremely
Speaker 1: high trade value, and he just feels like they don't
Speaker 1: have a lot of moves. They're almost like an NBA
Speaker 1: team that it's like you only have so many assets
Speaker 1: at a certain point with the cap and this and that,
Speaker 1: and like they need to do a lot and they
Speaker 1: feel like maybe Ramsey, based on that answer, could be
Speaker 1: someone that gets them back into the draft mix that
Speaker 1: they can get a couple first back for him. What
Speaker 1: a plot twist that would be less neat acquiring draft
Speaker 1: picks this time of year. You don't answer that question
Speaker 1: if you're dem off that way unless you're very comfortable
Speaker 1: with other teams. You know, you want to hear what
Speaker 1: other teams off. I like the Twitter recruitment too, like
Speaker 1: it's it's kind of spicy. I'm on ross at Brown
Speaker 1: is trying to get him to come to Detroit, and
Speaker 1: then Michael Parsons just like shot out, I'm sorry, no
Speaker 1: one's going from LA to Detroit, right like? Yeah? Um,
Speaker 1: By the way, that was a Bridget Condon the interview
Speaker 1: with friend UH and a friend of the show at
Speaker 1: a RAMS event. Yes, the human bridgets are the ones
Speaker 1: we prefer. And we were at a Super Bowl event, Greggy,
Speaker 1: where Demof was nearby around We were belly up at
Speaker 1: a bar and tried to get his attention, couldn't get
Speaker 1: his attention, and I think, were you doing to try
Speaker 1: it again? And I was like, you're making this. I
Speaker 1: was like, is it because I had the RAMS Toulo
Speaker 1: in the power rankings during the playoffs last year. This
Speaker 1: Kevin as he's still upset about it. It was a
Speaker 1: very crowded party and we were gonna go over and
Speaker 1: talk to him, and then then then we went and
Speaker 1: looked and he was gone. But I don't I don't
Speaker 1: remember any waving that you don't remember because it didn't happen.
Speaker 1: But I looked over at him and I was hoping
Speaker 1: we would make eye contact. It didn't happen. Sorry to
Speaker 1: hear that. Yeah, And I took that personally little Michael
Speaker 1: Jordan uh In other news, Derek Carr, Derek Carr, how
Speaker 1: about that he's living the life right now because yes,
Speaker 1: the Raiders didn't want him, but a lot of other
Speaker 1: teams do And the nature of how this played out,
Speaker 1: he I liked how he played it. At the end.
Speaker 1: He met with the Saints and there was a framework
Speaker 1: of a trade, and then he went to the Raiders.
Speaker 1: I don't know if this was done for revenge or
Speaker 1: just part of the game or whatever, but it's like, actually, no,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to accept a trade to New Orleans
Speaker 1: or anywhere else, so you have to release me Raiders,
Speaker 1: and which they did because there was going to be
Speaker 1: a major bonus coming a couple of weeks back. So
Speaker 1: now he's a free agent and it's incredibly nice set
Speaker 1: up for him, Connie, because all the other guys that
Speaker 1: are set to become free agents they have to wait
Speaker 1: for the new league year. So he has this long
Speaker 1: runway where he is the bell of the ball. He
Speaker 1: has talked with the Saints, he met with the Jets
Speaker 1: this weekend. There's another team in the mix, Panthers maybe,
Speaker 1: But like Frank Reik, wasn't really he met at an
Speaker 1: Italian restaurant. My buddy Mike back in Jersey, lives in
Speaker 1: Summits as a very nice restaurant. It was it was Sala,
Speaker 1: it was Joe Douglas, it was Derek Carr, and then
Speaker 1: David Carr's brother who once for he was the axis
Speaker 1: of a truce between around the NFL and Derek Carr
Speaker 1: who had once blocked us and no more. David Carr,
Speaker 1: who works for this network, talked about the process for Derek,
Speaker 1: and we knew he would love Robert Salo. I've known
Speaker 1: Robert for a while. M J knows Robert. He's fantastic
Speaker 1: and they hit it off and they would love to
Speaker 1: work together. But there's a lot of questions that have
Speaker 1: to be ansked. I think the most important thing for
Speaker 1: him as a veteran quarterback, what is it going to
Speaker 1: be like as an offensive play caller and a quarterback
Speaker 1: in that relationship. Todd Downing is there, He has a
Speaker 1: relationship with Todd. Nathaniel Hackett is also there, So how
Speaker 1: does all that work? And they had a good chat.
Speaker 1: They talked about a lot of different things, and obviously
Speaker 1: the team is just a need of quarterbacks and some
Speaker 1: stability there. They have a lot of good components. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of things that are very positive about the Jets.
Speaker 1: He had a great trip, so that was un total access. Connie,
Speaker 1: like David Carr kind of interest interesting obviously his brother,
Speaker 1: former player himself, but now he's like brothers spokesperson in
Speaker 1: the media for this, which is kind of a funny,
Speaker 1: somewhat tricky thing to navigate because he's an analyst, and
Speaker 1: now I find myself hanging on every single word that
Speaker 1: he says, trying to analyze any little pause or inflection
Speaker 1: that he might have when he's talking about his brother's decision,
Speaker 1: and it sounds like he's saying that he wants to
Speaker 1: take some time to make sure it's right. Obviously, it
Speaker 1: sounds like he wants to maybe go to the Jets
Speaker 1: because that would be a good fit for him, but
Speaker 1: the Jets are maybe waiting for Aaron Rodgers decision. That
Speaker 1: seems like the first domino that needs to fall before
Speaker 1: any of this can be decided. But it's nice that
Speaker 1: Derek Carr has this time right now before any of
Speaker 1: the other free agents that he could sign with a
Speaker 1: team in theory and then take advantage of that time
Speaker 1: to recruit other free agents to come and then help
Speaker 1: him out as well, so he does have that luxury.
Speaker 1: But I guess everything kind of is just hinging on
Speaker 1: what Aaron Rod feels like. It feels like the Jets
Speaker 1: want to see if they get Rogers, and if they can't,
Speaker 1: then maybe they'll go get Derek Carr. And I think
Speaker 1: that would probably be the best outcome for Derek Carr
Speaker 1: would be the Jets. I'm gonna I'm a little annoyed
Speaker 1: by what the Saints did bringing him in and then
Speaker 1: they asked him to take a pay cut. Like it's like,
Speaker 1: it's like it's a broke Bay behavior right there, broke
Speaker 1: franchise behavior. You got this salary cap issue that they
Speaker 1: always managed to finagle, and that they bring him in,
Speaker 1: they wind him and dine him. They're like, if you
Speaker 1: were gonna just ask him to take a pay cut
Speaker 1: to make the trade happen the whole time, just wait
Speaker 1: until he gets cut, because you were miss totally misreading
Speaker 1: the market. I think they thought that he would be
Speaker 1: happy to like, Okay, you can come here and like
Speaker 1: get twenty million dollars or whatever. It's gonna be somewhere
Speaker 1: in between. Like a backup and like a real starter starter,
Speaker 1: And to me, that's totally misreading the market. Derek Carr's
Speaker 1: gonna get paid. Derek Carr's maybe not gonna take any
Speaker 1: pay get at all. He might end up doing quite
Speaker 1: well in this scenario because there's only so many quarterbacks
Speaker 1: that are available. I don't think Gino's gonna be one
Speaker 1: of them. There's way more teams than there are quarterbacks
Speaker 1: right now, and I think Derek Carr is gonna be
Speaker 1: the number two guy behind Aaron Rodgers because I think
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones gets franchise tagged like and people are waiting
Speaker 1: to see how all these things shake out. But if
Speaker 1: it's just Derek Carr and Jimmy g that are completely
Speaker 1: free and like Teddy and Dalton, all these other guys,
Speaker 1: like Derek Car's at the top of list, he's got
Speaker 1: He's gonna do fine. He's gonna make a lot of money.
Speaker 1: If you're deciding between Rogers and Car, I get it
Speaker 1: with the ceiling, but I think Car is also younger,
Speaker 1: he's cheaper. You wouldn't lose any draft picks at all,
Speaker 1: And who knows how much longer Aaron Rodgers is even
Speaker 1: going to play for life is short though. I just
Speaker 1: feel like that Jeff Jets an kind of like let's
Speaker 1: live and let live. What can go wrong? He's not
Speaker 1: as good as Rogers. He's struggles in cold weather. He's
Speaker 1: a little bit sensitive, as we know, there are reasons. Uh,
Speaker 1: they're different types. I think Rogers is just like in
Speaker 1: his own planet at this point. But I hung a
Speaker 1: little like emoji a bronze medal emoji over the Derek
Speaker 1: Carr story this weekend on Twitter, because I do want
Speaker 1: Rogers first, and then I'm not kicking the tires on Lamar.
Speaker 1: If that's a possibility, he would be my number two
Speaker 1: choice and then Car and I think this actually works
Speaker 1: out well for the Jets with Derek Carr taking his time,
Speaker 1: so it's given. It's giving opportunity for the Rodgers thing
Speaker 1: to play out, which is probably connected. So they don't
Speaker 1: get forget Lamar. Put Lamar by the way number one
Speaker 1: with a bullet eye, get that wish list. I get that.
Speaker 1: I mean, what would are you saying what you think
Speaker 1: it should be or what do you think the Jets
Speaker 1: would choose? Because I think that kind of feeling that
Speaker 1: they would be like fall in love with the idea
Speaker 1: of Aaron Rodgers as their quarterback. Not saying it's the
Speaker 1: right move, but I think, yeah, I think if Lamar
Speaker 1: was available, I think that the compensation involved with all
Speaker 1: this stuff matters too. Like if if Rodgers is like
Speaker 1: a first and the Jets get a fourth back or something,
Speaker 1: and and Lamar is like three first or two first
Speaker 1: and a second, that matters too to me a little bit.
Speaker 1: It's interesting. Yeah, let's move on. It's all gonna play
Speaker 1: out maybe right pretty soon. Yeah, February twenty first, By
Speaker 1: March twenty first, all these quarterbacks will have new homes,
Speaker 1: all the major free agents will be done with. It's
Speaker 1: all gonna happen pretty quick. Speaking of Aaron Rodgers, Bob
Speaker 1: mcgin now Bob McGain for years covered the Packers for
Speaker 1: The Sentinel over there and uh he's also known um
Speaker 1: widely for his draft coverage and he u spoke about
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers and the Packers and their relationship and McGinn,
Speaker 1: who is plugged in Greggy, says he believes that Green
Speaker 1: Bay is quote done with Aaron Rodgers and Jordan's love
Speaker 1: will be the team starter in twenty twenty three. He
Speaker 1: added that the team is quote disc gusted with Rogers,
Speaker 1: and they feel that he didn't put enough effort leading
Speaker 1: into the twenty twenty two season. Maybe at the reason why,
Speaker 1: like Lamar, like at this point, Lamar's it is prime,
Speaker 1: I would yeah, well, Lamark, well he's got injuries. It's
Speaker 1: it's a kind of a tricky decision. There's layers to it. Anyway, Um,
Speaker 1: I know we trust McGinn. Greg. This kind of is
Speaker 1: in conflict with a prediction you had a couple of
Speaker 1: weeks ago. I think I think you were saying Rogers
Speaker 1: will ultimately go back. In your mind, do you still
Speaker 1: feel that way or do you think this is heading
Speaker 1: towards divorce? Bill? Now, I feel that a divorce is happening.
Speaker 1: I mean McGinn knows certainly a lot better than I do.
Speaker 1: And I think Jordan's Love is a quarterback they actually
Speaker 1: want to see play, that they're excited about him, that
Speaker 1: they think he got better. McGinn even threw it out
Speaker 1: there that if Rogers insisted on returning, they'd make him
Speaker 1: the back up to Love. That story that's like almost
Speaker 1: as a funnishment that beautifully Yeah, he would go into
Speaker 1: a seventy year darkness retreat and so you will pay
Speaker 1: me anyway. I think they But if if they were
Speaker 1: ready to move on with him, they would act like
Speaker 1: how they've acted. They're not gonna say they're disgusted with him.
Speaker 1: They're just gonna stay quiet about it and see what
Speaker 1: the best offers. Unless they're telling McGain this to put
Speaker 1: it out there, and then I don't I don't think
Speaker 1: so in this case, I can't. I can't see that
Speaker 1: they would want this out there. He just says he's
Speaker 1: not coming back. He said based on everything he knows
Speaker 1: about the team is experience. And then people who would
Speaker 1: be in a position to know that, they're just like
Speaker 1: they're ready, they're ready for a new start, just like
Speaker 1: they were all those years ago when the same exact
Speaker 1: thing happened with with bred Farvan Aaron Rodgers. It's really crazy, wild,
Speaker 1: and it would make sense with all the flowery pieces
Speaker 1: that are coming out about Jordan Love and how impressed
Speaker 1: they are with him and everything else. I think this
Speaker 1: is happening. I think he's gonna be on the Jets now.
Speaker 1: I'm kind of didn't you do put a sandwich on it?
Speaker 1: Because I don't know. I don't see another team that's
Speaker 1: like just gonna jump up and make this all happen
Speaker 1: as quickly and easily as the Jets. I just think
Speaker 1: the Jets are going to be that team like the Panthers.
Speaker 1: But he's gonna want to go somewhere Scene ten, like
Speaker 1: he wants to go somewhere with like some juice. Um.
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones had a nice transition. Daniel Jones had a
Speaker 1: nice ending to the twenty twenty two season. Um, I
Speaker 1: don't know my radars just up on this one a
Speaker 1: little bit, but really cutting down on his mistakes and
Speaker 1: it was a better player and better coaching of Ryan
Speaker 1: Dable made him a pretty solid starter for the Giants
Speaker 1: and they had a surprising lee effective season. Made it's
Speaker 1: the second round of playoffs and all that. Now he's
Speaker 1: a free agent because they declined the option, the fifth
Speaker 1: year option before last season. The new leadership. He is
Speaker 1: changing agencies. He's switching agents. He wants up to forty
Speaker 1: five million dollars a year. Daniel Jones reportedly, I question
Speaker 1: why this would get out there. It would probably come
Speaker 1: from the agent that he fired. Yes, that like this
Speaker 1: is how unreason listen, I would you don't have to
Speaker 1: put a reporter, I'll say it, I would like forty
Speaker 1: five million dollars a year. Yeah, um reportedly Like it's
Speaker 1: I'm sure that's what he wants. Whether he gets it
Speaker 1: or not, one, let's go, let's just put it out
Speaker 1: there into the universe. Yes, the franchise tag would cost
Speaker 1: the non exclusive tag would cost the Giants just over
Speaker 1: thirty two million UM. So that's where things aren't it?
Speaker 1: Is it heading that way? Greg? Is that? What was
Speaker 1: this heading towards franchise tag? And is that what does
Speaker 1: that mean for Saquon Barkley, who's also a free agent
Speaker 1: with the Giants. Yeah, there's like a lot of like
Speaker 1: New York Post articles it's like, oh, this Daniel Jones
Speaker 1: is getting too big for his pitches, you know. It's
Speaker 1: like he's just trying to get Yeah, he's just trying
Speaker 1: to get money. And it is interesting that he would
Speaker 1: fire his agents. But I just think he was always
Speaker 1: going to be headed to the franchise tag in my mind,
Speaker 1: that the Giants were gonna see if he would sign
Speaker 1: sort of an in between like Ryan Tannehill Derek Carr
Speaker 1: type of deal, because if he was with like maybe
Speaker 1: two to three years of guarantees they would sign him
Speaker 1: if he wanted that, and that is a risk that
Speaker 1: he's passing on let's say, seventy eighty million dollars guaranteed,
Speaker 1: but they aren't going to give him the big one,
Speaker 1: and otherwise they're happy to give him the tag. And
Speaker 1: I think that's what's going to happen. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: clearly to me, he wanted more money than CIA was
Speaker 1: able to get for him, and so that's why he's
Speaker 1: going to athletes first, and that's why CIA probably leaked this.
Speaker 1: But I mean, it's it's interesting that he's switching agents
Speaker 1: at this point. I don't know where they're gonna go
Speaker 1: with this, if they're gonna end up tagging him or not,
Speaker 1: but it feels like to me, he's not going to
Speaker 1: get the money that he wants. They're probably gonna tag him,
Speaker 1: and then sa Kuan's gonna walk. Kind of lets them
Speaker 1: not give Saquan the contract that I don't think they
Speaker 1: want to give him anyways. Right, you know, if I
Speaker 1: was starting my own agency, I was thinking, like, do
Speaker 1: I like the name athletes first? It's fine, but I
Speaker 1: would call it people first, because they're more than just that.
Speaker 1: And then and then and then you kind of just
Speaker 1: elbow drop off the top turnbuckle your rival. Oh, athletes
Speaker 1: firsts taking a big Yeah, they take a dirt nap.
Speaker 1: And then you know, if you're looking to choose, like
Speaker 1: you know, oh, am, I just a player, Like no,
Speaker 1: I'm a person. I go to people first. She thought,
Speaker 1: I think it's a beautiful but would human first be better? Well,
Speaker 1: then you get a little I don't know, Okay, humans first.
Speaker 1: Would you rather have Daniel Jones h or Derek Carr?
Speaker 1: If you were ranking a top one hundred and one
Speaker 1: free agents? The player or the human the player? Who
Speaker 1: would you rather sign it? Would you rather have in
Speaker 1: a vacuum on a list that I'm writing? Uh, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones or Derek Carson. Oh I love this exercise. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I thought a lot about it a lot yesterday. I
Speaker 1: guess I'm gonna say Derek Carr because again, watching all
Speaker 1: the Giants games there was that was kind of a
Speaker 1: nice ending to the season for Daniel Jones, But he
Speaker 1: was kind of just Daniel Jones to me for most
Speaker 1: of the year before that. He also didn't have any receivers,
Speaker 1: that's the thing. Okay, but he had a better thing.
Speaker 1: Derek Harton has never had a defense, So I feel
Speaker 1: like these the two quarterbacks have dealt with I would
Speaker 1: take I know Cars older, but car is still pretty young.
Speaker 1: He's still thirty one against thirty too soon, but it's
Speaker 1: a good one where you leaning right now, I'm back
Speaker 1: to Jones, but I've gone back and forth just because
Speaker 1: I feel like there might be another level he can
Speaker 1: get to um and I think they're both at a
Speaker 1: very similar not replacement level starting quarterback. But that that
Speaker 1: kind of like Dalton scale right around the line, right,
Speaker 1: maybe like right, a little bit of the middle, middle,
Speaker 1: lower of the path. And that's why you want to
Speaker 1: be an NFL starting quarterback, because just being a little
Speaker 1: bit better than average gets you thirty five to fourty
Speaker 1: five million dollars. That's why he's not getting the forty
Speaker 1: five though, Like I don't I don't think he would
Speaker 1: have that sort of market from other teams either. All right,
Speaker 1: let's take a break and then right, I would put
Speaker 1: humans no no, no, no, no no no, pull the plug.
Speaker 1: This is not good. This is not good. Eventually that
Speaker 1: plug is not going to be This is what Bridget did.
Speaker 1: The tank, the tank in your forearm. It's healing up nicely. No,
Speaker 1: it is. I have a like a what's it called
Speaker 1: the fang tooth. I have the fang tooth mark there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's cool. So the saddest part about this whole thing, though,
Speaker 1: is because you know, Connie's a dog lover, and we
Speaker 1: were out celebrating West a couple of weeks ago right
Speaker 1: in Culver City and there's a lot of dogs around.
Speaker 1: And then seeing you, now, man, I know, once a
Speaker 1: great lover of dogs, and you still are, but now
Speaker 1: afraid of the dogs. Understandably, it's sad I've taken any else.
Speaker 1: Do you have to bring up everything? I love dogs.
Speaker 1: She doesn't need this still there, but I am quite terrified.
Speaker 1: I went to a party, a house party, um on
Speaker 1: Saturday night, and they had a quite big dog there,
Speaker 1: and the dog came up to me and and it
Speaker 1: was just like what happened at Christmas. There was a
Speaker 1: lot of people there and the dog came up and
Speaker 1: started sniffing me, and I my hair on the back
Speaker 1: of my neck was just standing on end like, and
Speaker 1: I had chills and I wanted to like run the
Speaker 1: other bridget. But we're good. We're good sometimes it's good
Speaker 1: to talk about it. Maybe this is like the most
Speaker 1: Jewish thing about me. I'm marrying it out. You talk
Speaker 1: it out, break talk, you talk breaking bread O. Good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've been sitting shiva the past week. So is there
Speaker 1: anything else about Kyleen's life that you want to get into? Well,
Speaker 1: you know, the personal to the listener, they really appreciate
Speaker 1: that we share everything. Um, living with me, my dog,
Speaker 1: my puppy, the cap yeah. Um, like it's not it's
Speaker 1: not edge, it's the edge. It's to be captain. Okay,
Speaker 1: he's a little nippy, he's got the puppy nips. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're different. So I'm gonna keep you clear of him,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna train him, um with very uh like
Speaker 1: gannon like ferocity. Okay, that's good. Puppy puppy nips are
Speaker 1: different though, because they have like the teeny tiny little
Speaker 1: sharp teeth and like they hurt, but they're not scary.
Speaker 1: They're not gonna like maul your arm. Yeah. Sometimes I
Speaker 1: get a little puppy nip, Like I'll be on a
Speaker 1: run and these little an I've had two different puppy
Speaker 1: nips in the last like two years, and I'm just
Speaker 1: like get control of your little I mean they're on
Speaker 1: a leash, but they're just they're just so you are
Speaker 1: you coming in maybe a little too tight. There's traffic
Speaker 1: and stuff, but no, I mean I'm trying to go
Speaker 1: out to the grass and they're on the sidewalker used
Speaker 1: to hate when we would walk our dogs in Santa
Speaker 1: Monica and someone would come up running behind them because
Speaker 1: Dasher's a little bit of a headcase. And it was
Speaker 1: always like a little like, oh my god, I don't
Speaker 1: do anything either. I don't anything. Just gives it a
Speaker 1: little nudge. I give the owner a little luck afterwards,
Speaker 1: just like, come on, Greg's barking, WTF. So you're running,
Speaker 1: you turn around and like give like a WTF look
Speaker 1: and then keep going. Yeah. Nice. It's just kind of like,
Speaker 1: are you all on the left? Gun your love? Yeah? No,
Speaker 1: how about you you become it's a kitchen like this is.
Speaker 1: I try to stay away with sometimes you can't. All right,
Speaker 1: we'll be right back, all right, welcome back. Let's uh
Speaker 1: wrap this up, um little O C D C section
Speaker 1: of the news. Eric b Enemy does the thing that
Speaker 1: I think he had to do obviously where he is
Speaker 1: in his coaching career, he wants to be a head coach,
Speaker 1: and UM, you know, they're different factors involved in this, UH,
Speaker 1: some more upsetting to discuss than others. But one of
Speaker 1: the UH factors here is Eric bi Ennemy being the
Speaker 1: OC in Kansas City when Patrick Mahomes is the quarterback
Speaker 1: and Andy Reid is the primary play caller. Um, he
Speaker 1: just wasn't going to get a big chair out of this.
Speaker 1: He wasn't going to get the promotion so many other
Speaker 1: ocs get when they're connected to a big time team.
Speaker 1: So he leaves that setting and goes and takes a
Speaker 1: job with the Commanders as their new offensive coordinator. UM.
Speaker 1: Your thoughts on that, Connie? I hate that he had
Speaker 1: to move to hopefully one day get the elevated job
Speaker 1: that he deserves. But I'm happy that he did it
Speaker 1: and he's taking that chance. I think it's a bummer
Speaker 1: that he had to leave a successful organization that recent
Speaker 1: memory and leaving a spot like that and making a
Speaker 1: lateral move and the and obviously the other side of
Speaker 1: this is the NFL has a very bad history recent
Speaker 1: history as well, not just extended history of black head
Speaker 1: coaches getting opportunities as head coaches and that's been part
Speaker 1: of the conversation around beyond me for I feel like
Speaker 1: years now years, and you like the thing of being
Speaker 1: under Andy Reid is like that is what usually guarantees
Speaker 1: you a job, right, Like Brad Childress gets a job,
Speaker 1: Matt Naggie gets a job. Look at all the years
Speaker 1: from Sean McVay and all of his assistants that got jobs. Right,
Speaker 1: But really, even specifically, it has had so many now
Speaker 1: you know, it's upsetting, It's tricky. Like Bomani Jones, I've
Speaker 1: heard him talk about it that sometimes focusing on B
Speaker 1: Enemy specifically is is almost a fool's erin because like,
Speaker 1: maybe there is something specific to Eric B Enemy. He's
Speaker 1: had all these opportunittunities for whatever reason, and that focusing
Speaker 1: on that. It's a a league which hires white guys
Speaker 1: on offense in general and nepotism and what can you
Speaker 1: can do structurally like that that's a better thing to
Speaker 1: focus on than just specifically B Enemy. But it is
Speaker 1: crazy because I just feel like if he goes to
Speaker 1: Washington and their offense is awesome, he's gonna get a job.
Speaker 1: So it's like, yeah, right, I guess that time. But
Speaker 1: even that is like, is weirdly embarrassing? It is. It's weird.
Speaker 1: It's unusual the way it all played out. And speaking
Speaker 1: of the Commanders, Ron Rivera said that Sam Howell, their
Speaker 1: second year quarterback, will quote start out as QB one
Speaker 1: heading to the offseason. Greg. That strikes me as classic
Speaker 1: offseason pre free agency draft hokum, the incoming guy that's
Speaker 1: still on the depth chart. He's our guy. I feel
Speaker 1: very strongly they will come out of this with a
Speaker 1: veteran starter or or I guess a high draft pick.
Speaker 1: That's where I said, I don't think how sniffs the
Speaker 1: Week one job personally. Personally, they've come out so hard
Speaker 1: with this that I think there's a chance. Really yeah,
Speaker 1: so I think they are really saying we are not
Speaker 1: gonna be in the big kids pool for these quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: We're not in the Derek Carr, Aaron Rodgers pool or else.
Speaker 1: They've come out strong, like multiple times saying this. Howell
Speaker 1: did look very intriguing in that Week eighteen game, and
Speaker 1: they did see him for the whole season in practice.
Speaker 1: Now he's like a later round pick, so that's surprising.
Speaker 1: But he's also as a guy that at one point
Speaker 1: people thought would be a top ten pick, and he
Speaker 1: does have incredible skills as a runner and like as
Speaker 1: a big arm. So it's like it's not that crazy.
Speaker 1: I could see them signing like a teddy type and
Speaker 1: making Howell the likely the one just because they've come
Speaker 1: out Why has he come out so hard? Saying this
Speaker 1: over and over? He said it like in multiple different
Speaker 1: interviews in different ways. That's I feel like anytime that
Speaker 1: it's this time of year, and the harder they go
Speaker 1: in on, the more unlikely it is that that player
Speaker 1: is going to be in the spot that they're here.
Speaker 1: I'm usually with you, but it's usually with someone they
Speaker 1: feel like they owe something to or that was a
Speaker 1: high pick, and so they're just saying it to like
Speaker 1: playcate this guy's ego or just to like throw people
Speaker 1: off the set. But why would they be doing that
Speaker 1: with Sam Howell? I don't know. I want to go
Speaker 1: back through like old shows and see this time of
Speaker 1: year and see from like the news and stuff, because
Speaker 1: I have a bunch of stuff saved, and just see
Speaker 1: all of the different examples. Yeah this has happened. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is a good example. This one we shall say.
Speaker 1: I think about what was it I talked about it
Speaker 1: with Mark a bunch of time in our early Around
Speaker 1: the League blog days before the then Redskins drafted Robert
Speaker 1: Griffin the third uh Mike Shanahan finally famously came out
Speaker 1: and said that he was completely comfortable with Rex Grossman
Speaker 1: and John Beck as our He'll stake his career, he said,
Speaker 1: on these two men going forward, and then they go
Speaker 1: and trade their entire draft basically to get a rookie quarterback, right,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't I wouldn't call it like a lie if
Speaker 1: they end up going to a different director. It just
Speaker 1: feels like this is how He was just very specific
Speaker 1: about the veteran part of it, and so that just
Speaker 1: told me that I don't think they're going to get
Speaker 1: into the Lamar Aaron Rodgers, Gino, Daniel Jones, Derek Carr
Speaker 1: area of the pool. Yeah, it's gonna be like a
Speaker 1: Jake brisket, or it's gonna be a rookie. Maybe. Maybe
Speaker 1: they're throwing people off the scent and the end, which
Speaker 1: is kind of their brand. They like to get like
Speaker 1: the mid tier starter on somewhat of a discount and
Speaker 1: hope they catch lightning in the bottle. Perhaps they'll do
Speaker 1: it again for Here's the thing though, sam Al could
Speaker 1: be a real thing. I know not many people watch
Speaker 1: that game, but he was very intriguing in that game,
Speaker 1: and he has an intriguing skill set that uh no
Speaker 1: one less than a spice rack. Our friend Brad Spicer
Speaker 1: believes Peppermill believes in the fifth round. But he was
Speaker 1: Here's the thing though, he was kind of supposed to
Speaker 1: be like a lot of people had him as a
Speaker 1: lot of people had him as a better prospect than
Speaker 1: almost anyone in that class. Light Falls. It was a
Speaker 1: bad QB class on top would party situation where he
Speaker 1: just surprises everyone, That's would be a great news for Washington.
Speaker 1: It would be uh speaking, you mentioned Matt Nagy, the
Speaker 1: former Bears coach. He is expected to replace Eric Enemy
Speaker 1: as the OC in Kansas City. All right, let's see
Speaker 1: the Ravens hire Todd Monkin as their oc uh formerly
Speaker 1: of the Bucks. The Bucks hired Gino whisperer. Dave Canals
Speaker 1: is their OC. Frank Reich hires Thomas Brown as oc um,
Speaker 1: and Jim Caldwell, Josh McCown, Do Staley and Connie your
Speaker 1: good friend d Hall also on that staff. Quite a
Speaker 1: staff there, Josh McCown, Douce Staley, d Hall, Thomas Brown
Speaker 1: was the Rams assistant at coach who a lot of
Speaker 1: people thought very highly of. I want them to be
Speaker 1: on hard knocks. Yeah, that could be a fun one.
Speaker 1: Do Staley. I know, I'm surprised. Why did he leave?
Speaker 1: I don't know. Wait a second, I'm just realizing that. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: he was a he was so great on hard knocks
Speaker 1: and he was a very you know, m Well, let's see,
Speaker 1: he was the he was an off assistant coach and
Speaker 1: the running backs coach, and maybe with Ben Johnson having
Speaker 1: that big year and Dan Campbell being establisher, maybe he
Speaker 1: wants to find his own niche. I don't know Campbell.
Speaker 1: Campbell had made some changes on that staff. I don't
Speaker 1: think he was gonna fire do Staley. But usually when
Speaker 1: there's like a lateral move, it's something where Staley's got
Speaker 1: a relationship with Reich. I'd rather be with him. But
Speaker 1: also that the other staff maybe like he's not he's
Speaker 1: not feeling himself, like for instance, this isn't in this news.
Speaker 1: And we can circle back if you wanted to any
Speaker 1: of those. But like the Chargers defensive coordinator Ronaldo Hill
Speaker 1: left to go work under Vic Fangio in Miami. Even
Speaker 1: though that's not even a lateral move, it actually seems
Speaker 1: like going down unusual. I was going to mention that,
Speaker 1: but I think it's just like he likes working for Vic.
Speaker 1: He probably did not like working for Brandon Staley and
Speaker 1: it just wasn't a math. That was My first instinct
Speaker 1: was like, man, that's not the greatest look for for
Speaker 1: Brandon Saley that your DC takes a demotion to leave
Speaker 1: the team. I mean, the most direct path to become
Speaker 1: a head coach, and that's the dream of so many
Speaker 1: of these guys to be a coordinator and then you
Speaker 1: jump up. It doesn't have to be that way. Guys
Speaker 1: get head coach jobs all the time, not in the
Speaker 1: DCoC chair. But it's the most traditional next step to
Speaker 1: leave that position and go down a notch. That's interesting
Speaker 1: to me. It tells me a little bit greggy about
Speaker 1: what internally some of the coaching staff feels about where
Speaker 1: Staley is as a coach, where that organization could be
Speaker 1: in the near future, and the culture. I mean, think
Speaker 1: about anywhere that you've worked before that has like a
Speaker 1: toxic environment. It's just it's not helpful at all. It's
Speaker 1: not fun to be around. It's no one likes to
Speaker 1: be in that. So and that is a component. Then
Speaker 1: it makes complete sense. And yeah, it might be taking
Speaker 1: it too far to believe that it was toxic or
Speaker 1: anything like that. He might have been losing his job.
Speaker 1: Do Staley might have been losing his job. And it's
Speaker 1: a close knit coaching community and they try to avoid
Speaker 1: firing if at all possible. So if you can get
Speaker 1: another job elsewhere, then it's like you never have to
Speaker 1: announce the firing. They're all from the same staff Staley
Speaker 1: or from the same tree. Staley used to work for
Speaker 1: Fangio two. So but he also he also is like
Speaker 1: it is you're actually everybody you're saying is also worth considering.
Speaker 1: You're absolutely right. But it is interesting when that the
Speaker 1: jump without there being a firing involved or a contract
Speaker 1: lapsing involved, goes, you know, you go down the ladder
Speaker 1: a nunch. Yeah, yeah, and it's interesting. And you mentioned Fangio.
Speaker 1: He is hired by the Dolphins as their DC. He's
Speaker 1: sixty four years old. He's very good at that job.
Speaker 1: And Miami's defense took a step back once Flora's exited
Speaker 1: last years. That's a good hire for the Dolphins. I
Speaker 1: don't want the Dolphins to take the next step as
Speaker 1: a jets in, but I feel like their defense will
Speaker 1: be better with the vic there. That was a great hire.
Speaker 1: He was spitting fire too on his opening press coot.
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, like Bradley Chubb, like like Jalen Phillips.
Speaker 1: We'll see, like they have potential, but they got to
Speaker 1: show what they're doing. It's like he just gave Bradley
Speaker 1: Chubb one hundred million dollar contract and he used to
Speaker 1: be your player. Didn't play that well for Fanjo. It's
Speaker 1: like he's already getting into uh fights. The one thing,
Speaker 1: the most interesting one of Canalis will be interesting for
Speaker 1: the Bucks. He was the quarterback coach with Seattle. We
Speaker 1: don't really know, but Monkin's been around, big play guy.
Speaker 1: Uh you know was was in college. Was the Georgia
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, big vertical throw offense. How that mixes with Lamar.
Speaker 1: It's certainly a different type of offense if Lamar is
Speaker 1: there then than the one they've had. Uh. Let's let's
Speaker 1: wrap things up with Connie Little odds and ends hit
Speaker 1: it odds and ends odds and ends, say, everybody tell
Speaker 1: your friends odds and ends. Oh it took four years.
Speaker 1: Did you even know that that was coming? Nollers are
Speaker 1: bothering me? So my singing voice is just not here today?
Speaker 1: Or is it? That was like Jordan, like the one
Speaker 1: game right when he came back for the Wizards, he
Speaker 1: put up like forty and then he was never good again.
Speaker 1: But let's cut that for the Connie Bot because she's
Speaker 1: never gonna do better than that one. I wasn't sure
Speaker 1: to really start in, but we got there. Guys nailed
Speaker 1: it all right. Our buddy Aaron Jones, who was on
Speaker 1: the around the NFL Super Bowl shows from media row,
Speaker 1: he will be back in Green Bay. He will attempt
Speaker 1: to set the all time rushing record for the Packers,
Speaker 1: which I told him is about two and a half
Speaker 1: seasons away if he stays healthy. He takes a haircut, Connie,
Speaker 1: but he's back in Green Bay. Rex Ryan, Rex Ryan,
Speaker 1: He's what's he doing? Spend at ESPN the last few
Speaker 1: years doing the Sunday morning show, but it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: Rex should be on the sideline. Guess what he's interviewing
Speaker 1: with the Denver Broncos about their vacant DC job. We'll
Speaker 1: see if that turns into something. And by the way,
Speaker 1: Sean Payton, Sean Payton, the connection, you know he did,
Speaker 1: he did the TV they're veterans. Uh. You know, Fox
Speaker 1: sent out an awkward tweaking naked right now without the
Speaker 1: afternoon Delight. I feel like we need afternoon Delight down
Speaker 1: all right, Okay, there we go. Sorry. Uh? And uh,
Speaker 1: Mike west Off our buddy, our friend the uh just
Speaker 1: put out a book talking about I had a legendary
Speaker 1: career as special Teams on the goat. Um. He was
Speaker 1: on our show last summer. His little exer for him
Speaker 1: to write a letter like that was totally inappropriate. So
Speaker 1: I blew up. That's West up burying Bill Parcels on
Speaker 1: our podcast. He's the special team's coach over there. Now,
Speaker 1: that's awesome. West off his back. Uh. And Matt Ryan greggy. Uh,
Speaker 1: this makes so much sense to me. I could picture
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan in a suit, a little bit stiff, delivering
Speaker 1: very you know, solid, if not spectacular analysis in a booths.
Speaker 1: People said he was good. He was on a pregame show.
Speaker 1: I don't even remember which one it was. I didn't
Speaker 1: see it. The rich Man's Trent Green perhaps, right, I
Speaker 1: think maybe like the new rich Gannon, who I always
Speaker 1: thought was good, who had good solid quarterback takes Matt Ryan.
Speaker 1: Every time I've interviewed him, he's been fantastic. Okay, he
Speaker 1: might might be better than we're giving him credit for.
Speaker 1: Well maybe maybe. I just I'm picturing it, and it
Speaker 1: makes sense that he's in a food and it kind
Speaker 1: of and quietly that, oh, that means he's retiring, by
Speaker 1: the way, the whole police, they have to retire, they
Speaker 1: have to release him. By the way, Um, buddy will
Speaker 1: he joined the Hall of Fame with Tom Brady. But man, oh,
Speaker 1: Darlin's broke his heart. Probably not definitely, not not a
Speaker 1: first year ago. I think Matt Ryan, who is Matt
Speaker 1: Ryan Hall Famer. We'll get to it. He's gonna retire,
Speaker 1: so um and finally um and that's odds and ends.
Speaker 1: Usually Connie and that's you know, that's odds and ends.
Speaker 1: Usually kind of we end with the song as well.
Speaker 1: But you just nailed it exactly. I imagine not hitting
Speaker 1: it on that. I can't imagine it. I've done it
Speaker 1: many times, so you don't need more disappointment. Let's just
Speaker 1: let's just let it let it be. Yeah, you did it.
Speaker 1: Um and and finally before we say goodbye. Um. We
Speaker 1: talked about a few weeks back, Grave Digger, the the idea,
Speaker 1: you know, because Jim Gray has a star in the
Speaker 1: Hollywood Walk of Fame, and you know, Gray has had
Speaker 1: a tremendous career in broadcasting. But like, you know, okay,
Speaker 1: Jim Gray's got a star, so what about us? Can
Speaker 1: we get a star around the NFL on the Hollywood
Speaker 1: Walk of Fame? And uh, and you did some digging
Speaker 1: on this one, and where are we at on the
Speaker 1: atn star. They are eagerly awaiting a forty thousand dollars check,
Speaker 1: So if anyone wants to make you have to be
Speaker 1: approved first though, yea, even the approval before the money.
Speaker 1: Are we approved? I guess? Is the question has anyone applied? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it has an application been submitted. It's we'll call it
Speaker 1: in process. I think it is probably the best way
Speaker 1: to describe that part of it. But yeah, yeah, that
Speaker 1: sounds like right now, what's happening? Process? Let's get on
Speaker 1: this green processing sort of like the whole guy thing,
Speaker 1: is a lot of approval process. It has to be oh, yeah, right,
Speaker 1: it takes six eight weeks the process. Yeah, And just
Speaker 1: to make it clear to our audience, not that I
Speaker 1: feel like there's been any rush to do so. This
Speaker 1: is not a go fund me situation or anything like that.
Speaker 1: We do not want any fundraiser from the audience on
Speaker 1: this one. We want it to get to a point
Speaker 1: where the Hollywood Walk of Him comes to us and says, hey,
Speaker 1: this one's on us. Join Hollywood Boulevard. All right, good update,
Speaker 1: good update. Oh congratulations by the way to our buddy
Speaker 1: Matt Schneider, shadowy league figure himself extraordinarire, a good man,
Speaker 1: a father once again, a boss to a beautiful, healthy
Speaker 1: baby girl. That's great. So congrat to match Schneider and
Speaker 1: well especially his wife. Yeah, the mom does deserve. Really
Speaker 1: the congratulations keep going. I'm just saying I've been through
Speaker 1: this twice myself, and it's like, congratulations. Dan is like, well,
Speaker 1: I didn't do anything, really, I mean, you know, months earlier. Yes,
Speaker 1: I played a role, but the mother deserved. Why am
Speaker 1: I talking just digging a grave? Yes, congrats to his
Speaker 1: wife Nicole for doing the hard work, and congrats to
Speaker 1: sky Avery Schneider. I like that. I like that name
Speaker 1: job two kids under two, that's uh, that's a lot
Speaker 1: of work. I have no idea what that's like. You do,
Speaker 1: go what that's like? Don't you what don't you You
Speaker 1: have sibling that's close in age? Right? No? Oh no,
Speaker 1: all right, where are let's let's send this thing. We're
Speaker 1: not getting sharper in the episode. I've never changed a
Speaker 1: diaper in my life, Like, I don't know anything about kids.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank well, go over and this is sky um.
Speaker 1: Thank you everybody for listening. We'll be back Thursday. Until then,
Speaker 1: Hed the call