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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 1: in Barrie, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to

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Speaker 1: you by Bally Beck now live in Ohio on eight

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Speaker 1: fifty ESPN Cleveland. Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and

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Speaker 1: Nathan Zigura.

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Speaker 2: Hey, let's do live on a Tuesday dish of the

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Speaker 2: program merely Bo the great Z. How you living, Buddy?

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Speaker 2: One more? One more? One more?

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Speaker 3: How did I go from off?

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Speaker 1: Don?

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Speaker 2: I don't know?

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Speaker 4: There?

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Speaker 2: We were on and then off and then I'm.

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Speaker 3: Great too, you know, I'm great. I have I have

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Speaker 3: a couple of things I got to get out of

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Speaker 3: the way in the sourt of segment. So the first

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Speaker 3: one is something that I witnessed on the way to

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Speaker 3: the Calves game Saturday, and I was at brunch with

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Speaker 3: the Great Miska and I saw this and I was like,

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Speaker 3: I can't wait to tell Bow about it. So I

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Speaker 3: got home yesterday and she was like, well, did you

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Speaker 3: tell Bo? And I was like, ah, I did not.

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Speaker 4: Cas.

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Speaker 3: So We're at brunch and I look over to my

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Speaker 3: left and I see a guy in a beautiful navy

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Speaker 3: blue master's quartership. Okay, which there's that in of itself

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Speaker 3: is not really noteworthy. You see plenty of those.

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Speaker 2: You see those those business yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 3: And so I kind of looked at it, and you know,

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Speaker 3: we had just gotten some master's gear thanks to the

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Speaker 3: great Previts, and so I kind of looked at it

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Speaker 3: and looked back and I was like, play a second,

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Speaker 3: that's weird. So I look more closely, and what this

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Speaker 3: gentleman was doing was something that I have never seen before.

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Speaker 3: And I think is of you as an authority not

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Speaker 3: only the Cleveland Browns, that this is the show of

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Speaker 3: record of the Cleveland Browns, but also I think of

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Speaker 3: you as an authority on quarter zips. Okay, yeah, that's

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Speaker 3: fair what he had on, because what caught my eye

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Speaker 3: was two zippers. He was wearing a quarter zip over

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Speaker 3: a quarter zip. He was wearing a double quarter zip.

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Speaker 3: One was kind of like the bottom one was zipped

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Speaker 3: up to about here, the top one was zipped up

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Speaker 3: to about here. It was quarter zip on quarter zip.

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Speaker 3: I've never seen this. I didn't know it was. Okay,

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Speaker 3: I don't believe he was wearing anything under the second

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Speaker 3: quarter zip. I think it was quarter zip quarter zip fiend.

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Speaker 2: Okay, what is the And by the way, they.

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Speaker 3: Were both masters quarter zips, because I could tell from

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Speaker 3: the zipper.

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Speaker 2: So he's wearing. There's a lot to I gotta get

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Speaker 2: digest here, ye are? They were? They of similar fabric.

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Speaker 2: It was basically like so two In other words, it

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Speaker 2: would be like this vest I'm wearing today if I

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Speaker 2: had another one exactly like it, maybe in a different

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Speaker 2: color on top of it, same fabric, makeup, same sweater.

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Speaker 3: Like a modern all of our brick of our quarter zips,

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Speaker 3: I asked, because they were the ones. For example, I'll

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Speaker 3: give you a perfect fabric, the fabric of our congressional

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Speaker 3: quarter zips.

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Speaker 2: So he had two of those, even more stupefying. So

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Speaker 2: the one thing that I was thinking was, is it

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Speaker 2: possible that he has a quarter zip on and then

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Speaker 2: a rain gear wind proof quarter zip on the top

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Speaker 2: of it, which would be bold, But the elements were

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Speaker 2: what the elements were.

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Speaker 3: By the way, rain gear, there's your full zipping in

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Speaker 3: a rain situation.

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Speaker 2: I agree. But I've seen like I for example, I

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Speaker 2: think two weeks ago, I had a like a gray

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Speaker 2: camouflage half zip hooty thing beautiful that that is a

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Speaker 2: rainish type gear. So I've seen that and that at

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Speaker 2: that now, I still i'd never seen a stackable quarter zip.

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Speaker 3: Ever, it's not it was, it's not done.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's not done. I would think I could make

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Speaker 2: a pass for it if there were two separate fabrics.

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Speaker 2: One was like close to the flesh, the other one

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Speaker 2: was a rain gear wind proof. But you're saying no,

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Speaker 2: you're saying that that someone that this this human was

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Speaker 2: wearing quarterszip on top of quarter zip of a similar

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Speaker 2: brand in fabric and function. That's right, that's exactly what

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Speaker 2: I'm saying. I can't co sign that.

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Speaker 4: I don't.

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Speaker 2: I've not seen it.

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Speaker 3: It's it's not superfine. That's why I I tried it.

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Speaker 3: I wanted to take a picture so bad, and I.

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Speaker 2: Kind of like when I saw then uncle baby Billy

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Speaker 2: guy at dinner.

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Speaker 3: And then I felt like he saw me, so then

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Speaker 3: I I didn't.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was that's a tough one. That's why I

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Speaker 2: when I grabbed that uncle baby Billy photo of you

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Speaker 2: in the desert. You have to be very careful, of course,

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Speaker 2: to be very discreet, because you don't need an interact.

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Speaker 2: You don't need to yeah and then oh look at

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Speaker 2: oh yeah, but not, I've never heard of it. I've

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Speaker 2: never seen it. I can't co sign it. I don't

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Speaker 2: think it's done.

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Speaker 3: It is done because I'm not.

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Speaker 2: I don't advise it. No, that's a crazy look. I

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Speaker 2: think you want to wear some sort of a collar

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Speaker 2: underneath the quarter zip, a T shirt underneath the quarter zip.

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Speaker 2: I've even seen I guess if you were done and again,

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Speaker 2: but this would all be element driven, you know, sometimes

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Speaker 2: you see.

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Speaker 3: But again, maybe he was like, one quarter zip is great, but.

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Speaker 1: Warmer.

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Speaker 2: Well, there's a functionality to the quarter zip as well.

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Speaker 2: I mean it's the one piece of clothing that you

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Speaker 2: can wear white tablecloth or golf and everywhere in between.

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Speaker 2: I just never seen him stacked. I think there were

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Speaker 2: so many options that made more sense.

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Speaker 3: This is why I had to tell you, this is

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Speaker 3: why it was show. You've got no point of reference

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Speaker 3: on I don't me neither. I'd never seen it before

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Speaker 3: in my life.

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Speaker 2: Is it some sort of a TikTok thing? What was

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Speaker 2: the age of the gentleman, give me a ballpark fifty

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Speaker 2: five to sixty five? Oh, so he's just I don't

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Speaker 2: give a damn Bode, you don't care.

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Speaker 3: Or I am not ten years away from not I

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Speaker 3: don't give a damn boat. Maybe it's fifty watch maybe.

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Speaker 2: How many things am I trying to end this spring alone?

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Speaker 2: Well sixteen to end this one? Well, this one, I'm

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Speaker 2: not even gonna let start yeah wild right yeah. And

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Speaker 2: it has to be a I mean, that's a conscious

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Speaker 2: decision to do it. It's not like you you know,

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Speaker 2: because he's a brunch so it's not like it'd be

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Speaker 2: one thing, even if you could make an excuse like

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Speaker 2: you're at the golf course 'or somewhere and you're like, man,

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Speaker 2: I didn't have enough layers. It was colder than I thought.

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Speaker 2: I just had to put one on. That's not it.

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Speaker 3: This is oh And then it was just put on

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Speaker 3: on purpose, and it was worn to the Cabs game.

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Speaker 2: You saw him at brunch and the Cabs game, the

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Speaker 2: same human. Yes, in the.

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Speaker 3: Concourse, I almost fell over all corners.

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Speaker 2: Ika's like gosh, oh my gosh.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So I saw it like completely, it was one

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Speaker 3: hundred percent intentional. Wow, it was unreal. And the buddy

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Speaker 3: he was with was also there's their masters out, but

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Speaker 3: he went He's like, you know you only have one.

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Speaker 4: I have two. I got two.

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Speaker 2: I don't how do you how do you know? Because

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Speaker 2: I'm wearing them both because here they are. See the

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Speaker 2: zipper here and then this super here zippers layered. The

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Speaker 2: zip zippers are layered. The lower one was more zipper

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Speaker 2: than the outer. It was pretty wild, pretty wild. Okay,

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Speaker 2: so I got one while I can't, I wish I

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Speaker 2: could help you there. I just thank you for exposing

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Speaker 2: me to it. It's I've never heard of anything.

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Speaker 4: So that's wild.

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Speaker 3: And then I got another little wild story about the

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Speaker 3: official Nana okay, CBD. So she had a roof issue, right,

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Speaker 3: and it turned out that she needed a new roof.

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Speaker 2: A new roof. That's a that's a big purchase. That's

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Speaker 2: a that's it is. It's a heady purchase, a heady purchase.

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Speaker 3: So when the people were coming to prepare for the

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Speaker 3: new roof, and you know, they they take off the

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Speaker 3: old and then they are they start nailing the base

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Speaker 3: like a down.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Well, in my mom's house, which was built many moons ago,

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Speaker 3: I would imagine. And I've never heard of this. I

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Speaker 3: don't know if you've ever heard this. None of us

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Speaker 3: have ever heard it. I don't think her ceiling and

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Speaker 3: the underside of the roof, which in logic makes sense,

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Speaker 3: but I think there are many layers between those two

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Speaker 3: in reality and construction were the same. So she's sitting

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Speaker 3: there and all of a sudden, nails all through the ceiling.

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Speaker 2: So she doesn't have a layer of insulation or dry

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Speaker 2: wall between her ceiling and the wood wooden roof.

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Speaker 4: That's right.

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Speaker 2: WHOA, So now we have like multiple crises.

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Speaker 3: Right, not only do we need a roof the way

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Speaker 3: that we're doing this is not tenable, and we're gonna

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Speaker 3: need a new ceiling because now there are hundreds of nails,

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Speaker 3: nails that have stuck through the ceiling. I mean what Okay,

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Speaker 3: right through nobody's fault of their own.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 3: Now the good news is and this is actually my buddy,

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Speaker 3: herb shown helped her out. Good job, herb Garfield one

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Speaker 3: two three two three. If you need any roof, write

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Speaker 3: that down.

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Speaker 4: One of the greatest old school jingles.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's what they say. You're known for a jingles.

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Speaker 2: One that's great.

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Speaker 4: Give it absolutely.

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Speaker 2: Even a bigger payoff.

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Speaker 3: That's my buddy, the big h So he comes in

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Speaker 3: and takes care of money and.

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Speaker 2: Solves this fix it.

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Speaker 3: She gets first of all, she gets a metal roof,

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Speaker 3: which she's all jazzed about, yeah, last forever. And then

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Speaker 3: he came in and they put up they had to

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Speaker 3: read kind of dry wall, but not drywall. They actually

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Speaker 3: put wood where the nails. They couldn't get tho nails

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Speaker 3: back out. No, they hadn't build a new ceiling like

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Speaker 3: a few inches down. Yeah, and repaint it and the

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Speaker 3: whole thing. And so she's she was very pleased. But

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Speaker 3: for a while there she was in complete crisis and

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Speaker 3: this was coming on the heel.

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Speaker 2: So she wasn't not anticipating nails. Nobody was nails coming.

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Speaker 3: The roofs that are like we've done We've never seen

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Speaker 3: this one hundred billion roofs.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it never happened. Now I've this is very common

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Speaker 2: in barns. This is where I grew up, Like when

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Speaker 2: I would I've reroofed several of those in my time,

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Speaker 2: and you would when you would shoot through they would

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Speaker 2: go through the wood underneath the roof in a barn stile,

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Speaker 2: no dom.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this has coming down the heels of her having

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Speaker 3: her pipe that bursts underneath her kitchen floor.

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Speaker 2: It's been a tough stretch.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, what's that jingle again?

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Speaker 4: Gibbet Garfield won two three, two three.

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Speaker 2: It's great.

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Speaker 4: Did I'm telling you it was. It's literally one of

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Speaker 4: the god it was like every Indians game on like

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Speaker 4: Channel nineteen or forty three back in the day. That

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Speaker 4: spot was like in every break that is great, you

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Speaker 3: Double quarter zips, nails through roofs, cats and dogs living together,

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Speaker 2: Yesterday, Boots he was selected to speak at the to

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Speaker 2: Well, I think it's well, he's gonna wear a tie

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Speaker 3: For that first unions coming up in a couple of weeks.

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Speaker 2: It's a big one. That's a huge Well, last one.

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Speaker 2: We've already done the other two.

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Speaker 4: So this is it?

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Speaker 4: So is there is there a festivus after the communion?

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Speaker 3: What's the date on this?

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Speaker 2: It's the eleventh. Oh no, we're back Saturday, the eleventh.

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Speaker 3: What day is he coming in?

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Speaker 2: Great stuff last night. The Calves played last night?

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Speaker 4: Yep, go derail.

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Speaker 3: What kind of a world?

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Speaker 3: Are we living in Okay where the Calves are in

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Speaker 2: So locally because you can't get NBA TV without locally right,

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Speaker 2: So but can you imagine if it's but they're not

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Speaker 3: One is not like one's not like somebody tell me, Well,

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Speaker 3: they put it, you know, an NBA an NFL PLAYFF

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Speaker 3: Flipped on YouTube TV last night to watch NBA TV

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Speaker 3: and it's I said, again, that's it. Yeah, So I said,

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Speaker 2: I have it in the DVR. I'm gonna listen to

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Speaker 2: that's why we got spoiled. Man, you have Lebron for

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Speaker 7: My mom has it too.

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Speaker 8: It's like one of my favorite things about being at

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Speaker 4: It's amazing.

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Speaker 2: Ballies, Yeah, and you bounce to everything. You can check

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Speaker 2: Let's go see what the maple leafs and Bruins are

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Speaker 4: I've got the direct TV now, I app on Roku.

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Speaker 4: It's got the little.

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Speaker 2: Sports you can.

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Speaker 4: You just go to the sports. Ye looks them all

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Speaker 2: I'm paying them about four hundred a month for all

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Speaker 2: the nonsense. So this isn't exactly fine actually sound, but

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Speaker 4: There's care business, step on the throat and let's finish

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Speaker 2: They're not good.

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Speaker 3: This should be sweet.

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Speaker 2: I heard Donovan Mitchell last night postgame talking about how

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Speaker 2: the fourth where the last seven minutes where they cut

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Right.

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Speaker 2: It was just a formality like let's go get buckets

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Speaker 3: So they were a try hard team.

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Speaker 2: They were a try hard young team, hustling around. They

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Speaker 7: Well, the injury kept the Sixers out of the top

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Speaker 3: To be able to shoot the But like, the Pacers

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Speaker 8: They're the complete but they don't play any So they

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Speaker 4: Would be it.

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Speaker 3: They would have been a much more entertaining dance partner

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Speaker 3: for the first round of the playoffs' play that much.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they'd be better if they had randall.

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Speaker 4: You know, they were thinking that they'd won the NBA

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Speaker 4: It's it's second game, buddy.

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Speaker 2: Here's what they The Knicks and the Maple Leafs are

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Speaker 2: And so it was the same thing, and those things

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Speaker 2: it happens to me. Way well, I knew. I figured

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Speaker 2: So this is the first time that this has happened.

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Speaker 2: It was totally subconscious. I didn't even realize what I

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Speaker 2: was so embarrassed, beat red like crying, laughing so hard

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Speaker 2: he could hardly contain himself. I didn't realize even what

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Speaker 2: no point of reference. I didn't know what that meant.

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Speaker 3: We got to work on that grip strength. She was unaware.

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Speaker 2: Well, no, but it's just like a natural do you

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Speaker 7: get home.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I did, Okay, I did.

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Speaker 1: I was not.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he knows that's what it means. Well,

443
00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:02,000
Speaker 2: he knows what it means.

444
00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:04,080
Speaker 3: He doesn't know that he doesn't know what the acronym

445
00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:06,119
Speaker 3: is that he would want to be saying that he

446
00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:07,720
Speaker 3: doesn't know what the acronym is.

447
00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:10,760
Speaker 2: He doesn't know, because he did. I've heard him say

448
00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:12,600
Speaker 2: it a lot, and I don't know what it means,

449
00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:16,280
Speaker 2: but he refers to it as almost anything with like

450
00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:19,800
Speaker 2: a girlfriend or anything like if they look good, he

451
00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:22,640
Speaker 2: says that, And I'm like, so this morning I figured

452
00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:24,399
Speaker 2: out what it was. We're gonna have a little talk

453
00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:27,400
Speaker 2: about what the acronym means. I think his entire age

454
00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:30,639
Speaker 2: group is using it incorrectly. Okay, it's what I think happened.

455
00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:33,359
Speaker 2: So that was that, and it was I didn't. I

456
00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:35,560
Speaker 2: was embarrassed, and then I was like, oh gosh, yeah,

457
00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:37,720
Speaker 2: I guess, and I said, I go one day, you'll understand, he.

458
00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:40,680
Speaker 4: Goes, Dad, that's not making it any better. I went fair.

459
00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:45,200
Speaker 2: It's fair. I didn't even think about it, never even

460
00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:48,000
Speaker 2: thought about it. Oh man, So there you go. But

461
00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:51,320
Speaker 2: the hoops were great, the hockey hockey was fun.

462
00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:54,240
Speaker 4: The two goals who scored on the Islanders twice in

463
00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:55,119
Speaker 4: like thirty seconds.

464
00:20:55,200 --> 00:21:01,399
Speaker 2: Kneses yeah. And then Lebron last night. Let me ask well,

465
00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:03,560
Speaker 2: let me ask you this, does he ever win another

466
00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:05,800
Speaker 2: playoff series? Now he's aged forty?

467
00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:07,320
Speaker 4: He was great?

468
00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:11,760
Speaker 2: He was great. Anthony Davis was great. They played as

469
00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:13,879
Speaker 2: perfectly as you can played in the first two games,

470
00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,080
Speaker 2: and they lost them both. They were up twenty and

471
00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:18,719
Speaker 2: the third in the game last night and Denver got him.

472
00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:21,320
Speaker 2: Denver's way too good, way too deep. They have no

473
00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:23,359
Speaker 2: chance in hell. It reminded me very much of the

474
00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:25,280
Speaker 2: j R. Smith at the end of Game one of

475
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Speaker 2: the finals here, where it was like Lebron put all

476
00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,359
Speaker 2: of that into it, and it was like, if they

477
00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:33,320
Speaker 2: had won that game, they had a puncher's chance. If

478
00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:35,520
Speaker 2: LA would have won one of the two games in Denver,

479
00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:37,720
Speaker 2: they put all in it, but they didn't. Now I

480
00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:39,480
Speaker 2: think it's over in four or five and it's cooked.

481
00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:41,800
Speaker 2: Be shocked if it gets to five games. Honestly, I

482
00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:43,560
Speaker 2: think they probably gonna get swept because it feels like

483
00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:45,280
Speaker 2: at any point Denver can go on a fifteen zero

484
00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:47,880
Speaker 2: run in their sleep. But Jamal Murray hit a shot

485
00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:51,040
Speaker 2: over Anthony Davis. It was I mean, it's contested shot.

486
00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:53,320
Speaker 2: He just hit a shot. But I'm curious, like, do

487
00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:57,840
Speaker 2: you think he ever wins another series? He's forty series, Yes, how.

488
00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:00,960
Speaker 4: That team is not.

489
00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:01,879
Speaker 2: I think if.

490
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Speaker 3: I don't have two stars, I don't know that he

491
00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:07,400
Speaker 3: wins one with the Lakers.

492
00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:09,480
Speaker 2: Okay, So this is why I don't think he's gonna

493
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Speaker 2: win one, because I don't think he can ever leave there.

494
00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:14,520
Speaker 3: He's gonna come home for one last run.

495
00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:19,800
Speaker 2: I don't he's forty. Be great, he's forty. He's I mean,

496
00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:21,840
Speaker 2: I would love it, obviously, and if you put him

497
00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,239
Speaker 2: on this team with the rest of these guys, if

498
00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:27,200
Speaker 2: he were to come without having to give anything up, yeah,

499
00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:29,520
Speaker 2: and that would be crazy. But at the same time,

500
00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:31,040
Speaker 2: like he's going to live the rest of his life

501
00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,760
Speaker 2: in Los Angeles, I don't think that he can bail.

502
00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,280
Speaker 2: He's basically put them in this situation that they're in,

503
00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:38,720
Speaker 2: with the roster that it is. He's not a great

504
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,120
Speaker 2: of course, that the Anthony Davis thing. When they didn't

505
00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:43,760
Speaker 2: need to they give up all those assets when they didn't.

506
00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,480
Speaker 2: They could have waited, yep, you know, until he became

507
00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,240
Speaker 2: a true free agent. They didn't. So it's like, I

508
00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,320
Speaker 2: mean they could have. They had that Brandon Ingram was

509
00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:53,800
Speaker 2: in that trade, all those first round picks were in

510
00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,520
Speaker 2: that deal. Yep. Like they could have just held firm

511
00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:00,200
Speaker 2: and waited. They didn't. And I just don't know, Like

512
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:01,760
Speaker 2: he's lived the rest of his life in Los Angeles,

513
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:05,679
Speaker 2: can he really leave the Lakers. I don't think he can.

514
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 3: I think the only place he could leave the Lakers

515
00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 3: for is here and.

516
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:09,440
Speaker 2: Then go back to l a not if he wants

517
00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:10,480
Speaker 2: to be like a Laker legend.

518
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:12,120
Speaker 3: Does he want to be a Laker legend?

519
00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:17,879
Speaker 2: I think it matters. Yeah, sure, he's never going to be.

520
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:19,520
Speaker 2: He's never gonna be Kobe Magic.

521
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:21,960
Speaker 3: What's his Lakers resume? He won a title and they've

522
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:23,680
Speaker 3: been relevant for didn't he only win the title in

523
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 3: the bubble?

524
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 4: Yes?

525
00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,800
Speaker 2: Still a title? I mean they hung a banner. What

526
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 2: do you that sounds like a Gibbie, look out of you.

527
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:30,639
Speaker 3: It's not a Ghibbi that was.

528
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,159
Speaker 2: It was several seven game series to.

529
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:40,240
Speaker 3: The time, but it was that felt very not like

530
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:41,640
Speaker 3: an NBA playoffs.

531
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Speaker 2: Well, if you're gonna do that, though, then you almost

532
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 2: have to do that with all of the things that

533
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:45,920
Speaker 2: were contested at.

534
00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 3: That But at least you had people, some number of

535
00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:50,960
Speaker 3: now in our game in Pittsburgh, which felt very weird.

536
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:52,399
Speaker 2: They had people in some of the people in the

537
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:54,600
Speaker 2: in the in the finals, they brought in people for

538
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:56,920
Speaker 2: the finals. Remember there was like how many I know,

539
00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:58,960
Speaker 2: a couple hundred people, but there was that was that

540
00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,439
Speaker 2: whole time. So if you do that, then the Dodgers

541
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 2: didn't win the World Series. The Lakers didn't win the NBA.

542
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,200
Speaker 2: I don't remember who won the NHL that year behind

543
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,359
Speaker 2: because they did a bubble too, because the NHL went

544
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,920
Speaker 2: to Toronto. And I'm just saying, by the way, how

545
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 2: wild is that?

546
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:13,320
Speaker 3: It counts?

547
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 2: That was the world we lived in. It counts sports leagues, probably.

548
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 3: It counts. It's just not well, I think to win

549
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:25,359
Speaker 3: he's never won a banner playing in there, that he never.

550
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:28,440
Speaker 2: Even got a parade. They didn't get a parade because

551
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:29,119
Speaker 2: it was still covid.

552
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:32,120
Speaker 3: Has he made it to the final since, No, he's

553
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:33,760
Speaker 3: never been in the finals as a Laker.

554
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:39,240
Speaker 2: He is in a West Conference final last, but they've

555
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:40,480
Speaker 2: never He's never been.

556
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, lak legacy.

557
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,159
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think I think he can.

558
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:46,960
Speaker 3: I don't think he's leaving anything behind.

559
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 2: I think he's live the rest of his life there,

560
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 2: and I think he's.

561
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 3: Not even close. Imagine, I'm not even James worthy to

562
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:55,159
Speaker 3: the Lakers.

563
00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:57,399
Speaker 4: I don't know.

564
00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:00,600
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's our old bias or there recently.

565
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, I'm out worthy was my guy,

566
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 2: but I yeah, I don't know. I don't know how it.

567
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:07,879
Speaker 2: He broke the NBA all time scoring record there, like

568
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 2: he's they've they were. You gotta remember they were drifting

569
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 2: on nothing because coming out of Kobe until he went there,

570
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 2: they were wayward. I think that for a long time.

571
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 2: So he's made them fun and relevant over the last

572
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 2: over the time that he's been there, I think it's.

573
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:28,440
Speaker 3: Crazier to be as bad as they are now with him.

574
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:33,879
Speaker 3: An Anthony Davis, that's tough. I don't know.

575
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,720
Speaker 2: I just don't think his Lakers either way. So you're

576
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 2: the only way he would do it. He'd have to

577
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 2: leave like after this year, and I'll take him be it. Oh,

578
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:43,679
Speaker 2: I would too it. It'd be great to have him.

579
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:44,639
Speaker 2: I guarantee you wouldn't give it.

580
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 3: Would you welcome him back?

581
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 2: Of course he would. You would not be playing on

582
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 2: NBA TV at seven o'clock. Well there you go with

583
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 2: lebron James. To bring it full circle, ye would.

584
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 3: You draft I draft Bronnie if he needed to.

585
00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,159
Speaker 2: I hope, I hope for the kid's sake that that

586
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 2: doesn't happen, Like would you want your father eighteen yule

587
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 2: with the yoke of pedro overlooking everything you did? And

588
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,120
Speaker 2: we're going to hear a profession right.

589
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,400
Speaker 4: Away on the rundown. We're going to talk about father

590
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 4: and son relationships because I believe the Harrison family might

591
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 4: have a little toxic.

592
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 2: Oh baby, oh oh, there's a little teas for what's.

593
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:25,640
Speaker 3: These NBA teams that go, what are they thirteen deep?

594
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:26,240
Speaker 4: Do they go?

595
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 3: Is it thirteen?

596
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 4: Yeah?

597
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 3: But they only play seven exactly, So you want to

598
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:32,439
Speaker 3: who cares if he's the thirteen the guy in your

599
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 3: team you have?

600
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no, I'm saying for the from the

601
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 2: kids perspective.

602
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 3: I don't know that he's getting into the NBA any otherwise.

603
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:42,159
Speaker 2: No, I don't know. But I don't know that he

604
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,359
Speaker 2: needs to, like he's obviously more than taking care of

605
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:45,639
Speaker 2: Sure he wants to, but.

606
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 3: Like make some layups.

607
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know that you want. I don't know

608
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 2: that I would want to share a locker room with

609
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 2: my father. Correct, Like we all think of the Ken

610
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:56,920
Speaker 2: Griffy Junior King Griffy Senior thing, like that's the one

611
00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 2: that we think of, the Nirvana. Yeah, but there's a

612
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 2: lot to that, of course. Yeah, what the hell happened

613
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 2: to you? You know this are sad.

614
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:10,879
Speaker 3: It's a disgrace, is what it is.

615
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 2: Is there controversy?

616
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 3: No, well you had a mental They fell apart mentally

617
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:18,639
Speaker 3: when the going got tough. Yeah there, No, this is

618
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 3: my synopsis.

619
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 8: Oh, I don't think anything even give it a blow

620
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,640
Speaker 8: by below. Just just I mean, it was a really

621
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 8: good game. What was the score at halftime?

622
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:30,159
Speaker 4: To twelve?

623
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 3: And you lost?

624
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 2: Good guys, good.

625
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 8: Guys, Yeah, just not it was just not our second half.

626
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:36,880
Speaker 8: We just lost all the momentum.

627
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 2: Turnover really quickly.

628
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, turnovers. They had a turnover on downs the turnovers,

629
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 3: had the ball at the seven with no timeouts left

630
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 3: at the opponent seven with seven seconds to go with

631
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:51,680
Speaker 3: the score to win the game, and unfortunately some reason,

632
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,679
Speaker 3: they got checked it down to the six, got tackled

633
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 3: and the clock right now. They didn't get it, didn't

634
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 3: even throw it in the end, So I just think

635
00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 3: they got.

636
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 2: You blew it boy? Yeah, oh no, no, now here's

637
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 2: the rival and you can have it, but you have

638
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,679
Speaker 2: my the throat twenty nine to twelve.

639
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,479
Speaker 3: And you had a two point conversion to tie in overtime.

640
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 3: I didn't hear that part. What happened on that play.

641
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 8: We just threw it in completion, just couldn't get anybody

642
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 8: open and Corey had to force something because he was

643
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,440
Speaker 8: under pressure, and we just couldn't get it, couldn't get

644
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 8: open for him.

645
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:22,959
Speaker 3: So you're up twenty nine to twelve. Did they did

646
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 3: they begin the second half with the ball?

647
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:26,439
Speaker 7: I believe that they did, and.

648
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:29,400
Speaker 2: Then they scored, yeah, twenty nine nineteen.

649
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:34,399
Speaker 8: What really killed us was they they cut it to

650
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 8: eight on a long touchdown quick drive and then stopped

651
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 8: us on the four and out, and that flipped the

652
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 8: whole game. That was the moment where you could start

653
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 8: to feel that they knew that they could win it

654
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 8: because they were about to go on a sixteen point

655
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 8: swing and then they did.

656
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 2: All right, we have two principles on this program. Who

657
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 2: witnessed it? Gibbe did they blow it?

658
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 4: So I only got to suit the first half because

659
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 4: we had.

660
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:02,959
Speaker 3: Griff there for the full thing.

661
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 2: Huh the grip first half when you left, When you

662
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 2: left at halftime, Gibbing, you were like, oh, it's done.

663
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 4: I felt really good about it. I was like they

664
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 4: had forced to turnover on downs and Corey had had

665
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 4: an interception in the end zone. I'm like, they're cruising.

666
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 4: All they got to do now is just go score

667
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 4: for score with them, Like, because it's flag football, which

668
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 4: means you're basically playing glorified arena football league rules, it's

669
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 4: score score, score score, So as long as you keep scoring,

670
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 4: everything will be fine. So about seven thirty, I'm like,

671
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 4: I haven't heard anything. I sent a text. I'm like,

672
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 4: I don't feel good about this and I haven't heard anything,

673
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 4: Like we should be raising banners. I should be getting

674
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:49,719
Speaker 4: a text where the party's at tonight. Nothing and they

675
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 4: look good. They were cruising on all cylinders. I think

676
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 4: when you play a co ed flag football league. Sure

677
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 4: it comes down to the female play. And they had

678
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 4: two outstanding females on their team.

679
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 2: Move why is that because you have to guard, you

680
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 2: have to play to their touchdowns are worth more.

681
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh baby, and.

682
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 7: You have to go to them every three plays. They

683
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 7: have to be involved.

684
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 4: Female Like both teams last night, probably they might have

685
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 4: the best females in the building. From from of.

686
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 2: Course, well, that would do it. That's all you need it.

687
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:32,719
Speaker 2: In college, what I would do, we had a there

688
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 2: was a intermural mends, and then there was intermural co

689
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 2: ed basketball and the co ed basketball. My freshman year,

690
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 2: I was dating a girl on the basketball team and

691
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 2: we were The divorce was amicable, and so for the

692
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 2: rest of my college run, every girls basketball player that

693
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 2: red shirted played on my intermural team. Just tongue banners

694
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 2: because the same thing. Their twos or threes or threes

695
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 2: are worth fours. Yep, you just and the girls they

696
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 2: don't miss correct, They're very.

697
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 3: Skilled, easy easy easy easy.

698
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm heartbroken. It was devastating. Only loss of the game,

699
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 2: only loss the season.

700
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 3: Seven Patriots.

701
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 7: That's what we said after the guy plastic berths. David

702
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 7: Tyree got.

703
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 2: Us and this is a this this had become your

704
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 2: stat line two for thirty. Yeah, it's just that's that's

705
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 2: the classic.

706
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 7: One in front of the fans. One they were gone.

707
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 3: So how many touchdowns did you finished with? You scored

708
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 3: in the first week?

709
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 7: I saw three touchdowns on the season, Yeah.

710
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 3: And two were the first games.

711
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 2: I would I would say, with your sprinting prowess, that

712
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 2: is an underachieving season for you. That's it.

713
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 4: I don't know that you were used correctly. I was

714
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 4: able to evaluate the talent in person last night. Oh god,

715
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 4: my piece of advice is Okay, the quarterback was looking

716
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 4: at you looking you were busy running the route and

717
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 4: not looking at the quarterback.

718
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 2: So well, now that's an anti NFL view because his

719
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 2: to you. You're telling me that they're in situation you

720
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 2: want him to have his eyes on the quarterback.

721
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 4: What But what I'm what I'm seeing is this, Oh no,

722
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:18,959
Speaker 4: because you guys had told him earlier in the year,

723
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 4: run the run.

724
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 2: The long route drags cross crassrassers, drags deep.

725
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 4: But the way their team played wasn't necessarily that. If

726
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 4: he if he goes six yards and just turns around.

727
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 4: He's wide open and no one's within five yards of it?

728
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 3: Are you?

729
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 2: Are you giving a route to run every snap? It's

730
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 2: just free wheeling.

731
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 4: That's so. My one piece of advice is this is fine.

732
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 4: Find the open area and just sit down in it,

733
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 4: like here's here's all right.

734
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 8: We ran one play by the way the whole season,

735
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 8: and it was in overtime to tie it or to

736
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 8: get within It was the first play we ran a

737
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 8: screen pass to Riley, the only play we drew up.

738
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 2: You and I should have coached this. Yes, you gotta

739
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 2: have some places you gotta have. You gotta have some

740
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 2: sort of hand signals. Yes, of course you gotta have

741
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 2: some routes.

742
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 4: You can't.

743
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 2: You can't live in it. Like even like my kids,

744
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 2: like they run, they have a huddle or they signal routes.

745
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 3: When I was in the you have to in Georgia

746
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 3: and we were making our run.

747
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 2: When you probably probably had play.

748
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 3: But I had, like when we went had I had

749
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 3: like a flip. I had probably forty we had forty plays.

750
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 2: The very least. I gotta know what routes you're running.

751
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 2: Of course, I can't be in a situation where I'm

752
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 2: just waiting.

753
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 3: For you to start anticipate the route.

754
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 2: Ye okay, So now I think this league needs an overhaul. Yeah,

755
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 2: that's that's what My takeaway from this is that we've

756
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 2: got to have I.

757
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 7: Think some things are going to be changing for the

758
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 7: next season.

759
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 4: And there's one other thing that I'd like to say,

760
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 4: go ahead, man, this is a flag football league.

761
00:33:56,520 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 3: Here we get here comes soap box, give me no, No, there's.

762
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 4: A lot the intensity for a flag football game. I

763
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 4: understand the magnitude that there's a championship at State. There

764
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 4: is a trophy. As I found out last you're not

765
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 4: playing in the Super Bowl.

766
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 2: I disagree already.

767
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 3: This is this is if you're a competitor. You have

768
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,200
Speaker 3: a lot of ex college athletes, there is a.

769
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 2: You're in a facility.

770
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 3: I ripped and shredded my a cl M c L.

771
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:33,800
Speaker 3: I'm like, you need to play. I don't need to

772
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 3: deal with them too intense. It can't be too intense

773
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 3: in a competitive situation.

774
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 4: Yes, yes you can't, Actually you can. I believe Dan

775
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,839
Speaker 4: Murphy still has some scars from like a cleat where

776
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 4: he got cleaned in the back.

777
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 3: Violence that's competitive nature.

778
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 4: Was in competitive nature well it's not ballet, I am aware,

779
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 4: but how do you have a mark up your back?

780
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,799
Speaker 2: This happened like last night, here's marked? Who marked?

781
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 7: Murph?

782
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 4: Marked? Please?

783
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 3: So Murph was on the ground and this person stepped on.

784
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:14,839
Speaker 4: Him, basically tackled. In flag football, well that's that's too much,

785
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 4: and I think there were there were moments.

786
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 2: You have to play by the rules of the game.

787
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 2: There should be officiating. How many how many flags.

788
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 4: Do you do you wear?

789
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 2: Is it two or three?

790
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 7: Two flags?

791
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:26,360
Speaker 5: So?

792
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 2: Okay? One thing I would say that if you want

793
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 2: to eliminate any sort of physicality in it, or the

794
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 2: most you can, you got to go to a three

795
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 2: flag system, because then you won't have one to two

796
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 2: and then one in the back then new then you

797
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 2: get the GIAT comment for my son. No, you've got

798
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 2: to have it in the back, and I think you've

799
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 2: got to have then then that eliminates any sort of

800
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:48,959
Speaker 2: like trying to grab to slow to grab a flag?

801
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 2: Are the flags adhered by velcrow or pops pops? The

802
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:55,799
Speaker 2: one thing that stuff on that is sometimes people will

803
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:59,320
Speaker 2: wrap the pop to make it harder to pull. It's illegal,

804
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 2: but it's hard to pay attention to. Oh, I'm on it.

805
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 2: I think I'm a fan of Velcrow flags. Those are

806
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 2: the best ones.

807
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 3: I think sometimes though, Yeah, but then just get the

808
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 3: new one.

809
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 2: I mean that's just because of wear and tear. But

810
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 2: like I almost feel like every year, if you get

811
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,359
Speaker 2: a new set of Velcrow you'll be fine. Yeah, that's

812
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:14,880
Speaker 2: the way to do it.

813
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:15,320
Speaker 3: I like it.

814
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:17,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, I think we've covered a lot. Next

815
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 2: level is next kidding we have a uniform drop Oh,

816
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 2: baby Dewey, what are we doing.

817
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 3: The good news for them, though, is that they've got

818
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 3: third locked up, like they're we'll get into They might

819
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 3: even be second for a couple of their things, so

820
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 3: we can make some cases.

821
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 2: I would just say this about it. I've never seen

822
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 2: anything quite like it.

823
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:36,800
Speaker 3: The h town is such a debacle.

824
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:38,560
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825
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831
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Speaker 2: on that. So the uh, by the way, the full

832
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 2: range of these uniforms, there's been parts of them that

833
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 2: have leaked out from Houston for a while, but the

834
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 2: full range was actually accidentally leaked last night on Detroit television.

835
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 2: Did you guys see this? I didn't. So they're setting

836
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,840
Speaker 2: up for the draft up there, and they were like

837
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 2: doing a live shot of like how the setting up

838
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 2: is going, and they the camera panned on a live

839
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 2: shot and shot the full set because they have them

840
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 2: set up there. Yep, right, So that's that's how it happened.

841
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 2: I think once. It's just stupefying to me that that

842
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 2: the that the Adams family owns light blue in the NFL.

843
00:37:58,120 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 2: I don't understand it.

844
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 3: The Charterers have nice, nice light blue.

845
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 2: I understand it. And even this h Town blue isn't

846
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:08,320
Speaker 2: Oiler's blue. It's slightly darker, but they could not apparently

847
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 2: wear a light blue jersey and in fact, well I'm

848
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 2: doing the reading on this right now, like University of Houston,

849
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:18,720
Speaker 2: remember they wore those last year and then this Adam's

850
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 2: family shut those down and said no, I don't necessarily

851
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 2: understand if the Houston Chronicles got a story on it

852
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:29,800
Speaker 2: about about why this happened this way. I understand like

853
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,839
Speaker 2: she does not want to give I don't understand why

854
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:34,839
Speaker 2: she the NFL should step in and just give them

855
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 2: the oilers if they would have wanted it. But apparently,

856
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 2: and I'm just catching up on all.

857
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 3: Of this, the Texans knew that this was going to

858
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 3: be ill received and then put out.

859
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 2: It seems like media, Yeah, look, this is so. This

860
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 2: is John Lopez, who does sports down there in Houston

861
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 2: sports talk radio. He says, don't get it twisted. Amy

862
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 2: Adams Strunk is pretty uncompromising. Is a petty, compromising conniver.

863
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,320
Speaker 2: She lurks, She's obsessed with all things Houston's for reasons

864
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 2: that don't make a lot of sense. She's condictive. She's

865
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 2: better just like her. She could have been a hero,

866
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 2: and he's Houston. She could have erase band memories in

867
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 2: her hometown by just holding on to an old grudge.

868
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 2: And said, she is today what she's always been, her

869
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 2: father's daughter. Yes, this is uniform related and I will explain.

870
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,320
Speaker 2: And then they linked to a Houston Chronicle story about

871
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 2: how the NFL steps in to stop any sort of

872
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 2: view of it. So what, And I knew that there

873
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 2: was a lot of that, and they're very specific about

874
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 2: it about owning the Oilers. I knew that part. And

875
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 2: I knew that there was pettiness and bitterness dating back

876
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 2: to him not getting a new stadium, but Adams when

877
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,879
Speaker 2: he left and went to Nashville. All of those things

878
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 2: I knew, but I did not understand. My hunch is

879
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 2: that the Texans must have went so far. That's why

880
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,320
Speaker 2: they don't have a light blue jersey. My thinking was

881
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,280
Speaker 2: that if they went with a navy helmet, they'd be okay,

882
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:45,320
Speaker 2: but they can't even they didn't even go with the

883
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 2: light blue jersey. It's piping only. Honestly. The crazy thing

884
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,840
Speaker 2: about the third one, the alternate one that is the

885
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,919
Speaker 2: h Town blue, they really look like the Titans because

886
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 2: they're to have a navy blue hat and they have

887
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 2: light blue pin striping and they have read they actual

888
00:39:58,160 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 2: look more like the Titans than the Oilers.

889
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 3: Okay, they're terrible. Let me try to understand were saying,

890
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 3: suggesting that they could not have put together a uniform

891
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 3: that was as follows, a white helmet with the Texans

892
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 3: current logo with the part that is navy on the

893
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 3: current logo being like that, like this blue that they

894
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 3: are using right now, that town blue. Okay, so white lid,

895
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 3: that striping that their current logo, but with that part

896
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 3: that's made in the H Town blue a white uniform,

897
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:42,879
Speaker 3: H Town blue numbers and name, white pants, H Town

898
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 3: blue stripe with probably red red and H Town blue

899
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 3: in the middle like red white, H down blue white

900
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 3: red striping. Why can't H Town blue face mask on

901
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 3: the white lid? Why couldn't they do that?

902
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 2: I'm not going to act like I'm the authority on this.

903
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,879
Speaker 2: Doesn't that, but it appears, of course it's a total fail.

904
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 2: But it's the thing I don't understan I would have

905
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 2: done something like that. But all of the reading that

906
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,360
Speaker 2: I'm doing on this, it appears that they wanted to

907
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 2: be nowhere near it, and they didn't because this doesn't

908
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 2: have any in it at all.

909
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 3: It's terrible. It's awful that one is bad. Happened to

910
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:19,839
Speaker 3: think their whites are pretty good.

911
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 2: I think that's the best of the group.

912
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, agreed.

913
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 2: So the other thing I've never seen before is three

914
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 2: uniforms of which none are linked. Every single one of

915
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 2: them is different. They're not a uniform, right, the white

916
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 2: one has the horns on it and it's pretty clean.

917
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 2: I actually think the white one with the blue is

918
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 2: pretty good. Then the home one has the logo on

919
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 2: the sleeve. Then they have the red one, which I

920
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:52,320
Speaker 2: actually think the red helmet's pretty cool with their horns.

921
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 2: I actually like that. I think, like only it'd be

922
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 2: like the Eagles and the Vikings the only ones that

923
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 2: have that kind of look. I guess the Rams do,

924
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 2: but like I think, like a long horn horn on

925
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 2: the side is kind of cool on the red one. Agree,

926
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 2: And I don't know why you couldn't just have that

927
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 2: be the whole uniform look, but they didn't, so they

928
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 2: have They really have four different uniforms. Yes, there's not

929
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 2: another situation like that in the league where there's no

930
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 2: uniformity in the uniform. No, because you're saying, I'm saying,

931
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 2: none of them are the same. The the white one

932
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 2: has a different shoulder stripe than the blue, and the

933
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 2: red and the h town blue. It's three different uniforms. Yeah,

934
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 2: there's no uniformity.

935
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 5: Is that?

936
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 3: What's the stripe on the red.

937
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 2: It's it's just two stripes and so on the not

938
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 2: the horn on the blue.

939
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 3: It's a horn the white on the blue.

940
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 2: It's the logo on the white. It's a horn on

941
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 2: the red. It's two stripes. They're not none of them

942
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:49,879
Speaker 2: are the same. No, it's four different jerseys. Is I've

943
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 2: never seen that before, not just in the NFL, but

944
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:53,320
Speaker 2: college anywhere.

945
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 3: I happen to think the whites look very good. I

946
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 3: happen to think the reds look very good. I really

947
00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 3: like the red a lot. I happen to think that

948
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 3: the blues actually look pretty good too. The Navy, I

949
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 3: just think the h town is such an absolute fail,

950
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,799
Speaker 3: such an amsel fail. And I realized, and maybe they're

951
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:14,359
Speaker 3: hindered limited whatever the case may be, if they're able

952
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 3: to get that color involved.

953
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 2: Color right of course, if you have to wear a

954
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 2: blue helmet, wear a blue helmet. I actually think it

955
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 2: was pretty cool.

956
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:24,320
Speaker 3: You have to wear a blue helmet, like, I have

957
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 3: no clue.

958
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's so crazy, how this this protection

959
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 2: of the oilers. They should have a white lid anyway,

960
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:33,839
Speaker 2: of course, their lead lead should be white over the blue.

961
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 2: I actually think you could have if you could have

962
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:41,359
Speaker 2: done like the red helmet as a primary and had

963
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:43,320
Speaker 2: all of the colors in that if you wanted to,

964
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 2: but to know it was it's a very strange thing.

965
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 2: I've never seen this before. And again they don't have

966
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 2: like a classic uniform because they don't own the oilers,

967
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 2: so there's nothing like you can go back to and

968
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 2: go that's the way they should look because they don't

969
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 2: have it.

970
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 3: Even the logo that they have on the shoulder of

971
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 3: the H town blue. If you put a white hat

972
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 3: and threw that logo on, I think that would have

973
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 3: been fine. You didn't maybe need to do the whole

974
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 3: thing in that blue, but that right there, if that

975
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 3: was on the helmet, if it was a white lid,

976
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 3: that on the helmet.

977
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 2: Yes, with this, I think that would have been fine. Yeah.

978
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:20,239
Speaker 3: And then a white jersey, yes, they don't need another

979
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 3: Navy no, it was it needed to be a white

980
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 3: jersey if you couldn't do the light blue, yeah, or

981
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 3: with the H. But they're allowed to have this hum

982
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 3: blue and somehow associated with the uniform. I don't know.

983
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:35,320
Speaker 2: It's wild. It's a wild thing to do and should

984
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 2: be like the H looks like a baseball it's me

985
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:38,439
Speaker 2: that's what it looks.

986
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 3: Is horrific.

987
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I think it's I think it's pretty bombed.

988
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 2: So they're calling it candy blue. They have all sorts

989
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:48,360
Speaker 2: of different numbers of training or that they can go

990
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 2: with this blue. I just I don't understand it. I

991
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 2: don't know the white one's the best. I think for sure,

992
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 2: the traditional uniform is it just looks plain them. I

993
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 2: don't understand how you don't how you don't have I

994
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 2: don't understand the oil. How the Adams family owns light

995
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:08,280
Speaker 2: blue in Houston. It's ridiculous, Like would they have putting

996
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 2: some in there? Like that'd be like if if the

997
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 2: NFL allowed Modell to have the power to say you

998
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 2: could you can have a new team and in Cleveland,

999
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 2: but you can't use orange and brown. What doesn't make

1000
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 2: it You own colors. I understand you own shades of color, sure,

1001
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 2: but there's a munch a bunch of shades of light blue.

1002
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 3: Well, yet they're calling this is a different blue. It's

1003
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 3: a different blue, all right. I think Jersey rankings of

1004
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 3: the four we have all four out yep, I'd say

1005
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:37,280
Speaker 3: Lions number one.

1006
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 2: By a mile. Lions are my favorite. Well, Jets are fine,

1007
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 2: but I think the Lions, Lions. The Lions did everything

1008
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 2: you should do in a uniform set right modern version

1009
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 2: of a traditional right looks the part looks exactly like

1010
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 2: the Lions, an old school throwback, and then one that

1011
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,800
Speaker 2: you're trying something fresh. Love it. The black with the

1012
00:45:57,840 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 2: blue crush, which is beautiful. Yeah, crushed it.

1013
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:05,879
Speaker 3: The Jets solid modern, disappointed, no name, but fine, beautiful black.

1014
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 2: They should name. It should be a one off.

1015
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 3: Yep, Texans, I have third, and there's a there's a

1016
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 3: gap between one and two, a gap between two and

1017
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 3: three because I like three of their uniforms a lot.

1018
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 2: I really like the red with that, I kind of think,

1019
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 2: I just think that their helmet, I agree. I think

1020
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 2: that helmet's actually cool with the horn on it. Just

1021
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:24,800
Speaker 2: have that red helmet with the horn on it is

1022
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 2: the logo and do that? Do the red one, a

1023
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:30,319
Speaker 2: white one and the h down blue? Do those three? Yep?

1024
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 4: That's it?

1025
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:31,439
Speaker 3: Yep.

1026
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 4: And then four.

1027
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:36,399
Speaker 3: So here's the Denver. But the problem is with Denver.

1028
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,800
Speaker 3: If it was the one that's perfect, if that was

1029
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 3: what they did, they'd be right at the top with

1030
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 3: the lines.

1031
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 2: Then you'd be perfect. If they'd done that. Their regular

1032
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 2: ones are horrific. Can you imagine, like and we went

1033
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 2: you went through it twice with us, like the process

1034
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 2: with the Texans where you end up with four different looks.

1035
00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 2: That's I've never never college pro anything. I've never seen that.

1036
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:02,280
Speaker 3: That's like Oregon.

1037
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 2: But that's all the same template. The jersey's the same.

1038
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 2: It's just different variations of the color. The striping's the same.

1039
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 2: I've never seen different striping, different shoulders. Yeah, I've never

1040
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:18,479
Speaker 2: seen that like that before. All right, Now, a couple

1041
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 2: other things around the league. Andy Reid gets paid highest

1042
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:24,359
Speaker 2: paid coach in the league. Brent Bench, Brent Veach gets

1043
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:27,280
Speaker 2: taken care of as well, print of it, President Mark Donovan.

1044
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:29,959
Speaker 2: The Chiefs have won a lot, and so those riches

1045
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 2: are shared Amongst that, Matt Ryan officially announces his retirement

1046
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 2: as a Falcon. So that happened as well. They want

1047
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 2: to notice you have a Hall of Fame case. I

1048
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:44,359
Speaker 2: don't think MVP, which is tough because he did win

1049
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:46,279
Speaker 2: the MVP, But no, I don't think so would be

1050
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 2: my guess. I'm thinking the thing that's going to happen

1051
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 2: with these quarterbacks. Let me ask you, let me pose

1052
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 2: this to you. How are we going to statistically put

1053
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:58,840
Speaker 2: these quarterbacks in this era into perspective, it's.

1054
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 3: Going to be tough, but you have to judge them

1055
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 3: based on what they were versus their peers, right.

1056
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:08,760
Speaker 2: I mean that to me, I would say.

1057
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 3: MVP means that at least for one year he was

1058
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:17,879
Speaker 3: the best. So that gets that that carries a little weight.

1059
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 3: Four time Pro bowler, one time first team All Pro.

1060
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 3: I mean it's only a four time Pro bowler, Like,

1061
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 3: that's wild to me. Never led the league in passing,

1062
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 3: never led the league in passing touchdowns. His best year

1063
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 3: twenty sixteen, though, he was the MVP quarterback rating of

1064
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:38,720
Speaker 3: one seventeen forty nine and forty four yards, thirty eight touchdowns,

1065
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 3: seven picks. I mean he he's very good. Sixty six

1066
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:47,879
Speaker 3: percent passing, three hundred and eighty one touchdowns, one hundred

1067
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 3: and eighty three picks. Career rating of ninety three point six.

1068
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 2: Ryan or Stafford, I think Stafford Stafford just a two

1069
00:48:58,200 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 2: time Pro bowler.

1070
00:48:59,480 --> 00:48:59,919
Speaker 3: That's wild.

1071
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 2: That's something he.

1072
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:01,799
Speaker 3: Won a Super Bowl.

1073
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 2: He did.

1074
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 3: He did so This Pro Football Reference Hall of Fame

1075
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 3: monitor has him average Hall of Fame quarterbacks one oh three.

1076
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:12,279
Speaker 3: It has him at one oh six, which means they

1077
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 3: think that he would get according to their little thing,

1078
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:21,320
Speaker 3: he would get in. So this is what they do

1079
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 3: for quarterbacks. Super Bowl losses times one point twenty five.

1080
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:29,400
Speaker 3: The player debuted in nineteen eighty or later. Any passing

1081
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 3: yards over forty thousand get minimized, Passing touchdowns over to

1082
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 3: fifty get minimized. If they'd have debuted before, it's stuff over.

1083
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 3: You had to be over twenty five thousand, So they did.

1084
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:39,800
Speaker 3: They have changed it.

1085
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 2: So Stafford's only a seventy nine on that list.

1086
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 3: On that that's his hall So then Matt Ryan would

1087
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 3: be I think is empirically better.

1088
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, so they like just so people have an understanding.

1089
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:55,319
Speaker 2: You said he's one oh six is what you said

1090
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:58,839
Speaker 2: on that yeah, profile, So yeah, Brady's two sixty three,

1091
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 2: Mannings two fifty seven and Rogers one ninety two. Steve

1092
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 2: Young won eleven.

1093
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 3: One of six is like twelfth.

1094
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 2: One o six is twelfth, it's one of eight. It's

1095
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:10,800
Speaker 2: the average Hall of Fame quarterback. And then Roethlisberger's one hundred,

1096
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:14,440
Speaker 2: Philip Rivers and so forth. But then they have those

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Speaker 2: guys are old school guys like Bart Star, Bradshaw, all

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Speaker 2: those guys. So that's what makes it a little tricky. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: so yeah, yeah, he was great that one year. Like

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Speaker 2: if they had just gone with Kyle right away there,

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Speaker 2: like how many does he stack Stafford?

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Speaker 3: I would see I just wouldn't have had Stafford being

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Speaker 3: no time all Pro, not even a second team. Matt

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Speaker 3: Ryan does have a better career from that regard.

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Speaker 2: Well, he's got that MVP which gives him that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And the other thing is is what is a little

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Speaker 2: lot that Stafford didn't have more Pro Bowls? It is

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Speaker 2: surprise he didn't have more Pro Bowls?

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Speaker 3: And he is He's ten games under five hundred for

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Speaker 3: his career.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, not of Detroit bad.

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Speaker 3: So Matt Ryan one hundred and twenty four and one

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Speaker 3: oh nine. I'm curious to see where like Philip Rivers

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Speaker 3: comes out on this because.

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00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 2: Those Philip Rivers is ninety eight point six.

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00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 3: So Matt Ryan is considerably better than the estimation.

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Speaker 2: Yes, correct, Yeah. Speaking of quarterbacks and Bengals bringing back

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Speaker 2: exclusive rights free agent Jake Brownings, you have that as well.

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Speaker 2: He will back them up. He's very competent in that music.

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Speaker 3: What a treat before the Browns set to pick some players.

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Speaker 3: Here in twenty twenty four, we are joined by the

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Speaker 3: general manager of your Cleveland Browns, Andrew Berry. Ab good

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Speaker 3: to be with you.

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Speaker 2: Good to be with you too.

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Speaker 6: Nay, thanks for having me, ma'am.

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Speaker 3: It is an absolute joy. It is a treat to

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00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 3: have you. We have to do this every year kind

1145
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 3: of prior to the draft, and next year when we

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Speaker 3: do it, we'll we have to maybe even talk about

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00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:41,919
Speaker 3: a first round pick, but we'll see this year maybe

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00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:43,759
Speaker 3: a second round pick because we haven't picked in the

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00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:46,759
Speaker 3: second round in either of the last two seasons either.

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Speaker 3: Where's kind of your mindset with that second round pick,

1151
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:52,399
Speaker 3: because it's a position where you really can move. You've

1152
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 3: moved up and gotten guys like Jokay, you've moved down

1153
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 3: and still gotten guys like m j Emerson. What's kind

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00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:58,359
Speaker 3: of your mindset with that second round pick?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think our mindset is flexibility. You know, we

1156
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 6: have a number of players that we think will be

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00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 6: potentially available at the spot, but we really won't know

1158
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:12,399
Speaker 6: until we get to Friday night, and depending on the ball,

1159
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 6: depending on how the board falls on Friday, you will

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00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:17,759
Speaker 6: determine if we we move up, we sit or pick

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00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 6: scuse we sit and pick, or if we if we

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Speaker 6: move back.

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Speaker 2: So it's hard for me to.

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Speaker 6: You know, give anything definitive today, but we'll have a

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00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 6: better sit.

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00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 3: That's the mindset that we can maybe somebody's gonna fall

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00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 3: to us, Maybe we can get aggressive like we do

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00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 3: a jok or we can or we can show we're

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00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 3: not going to get so aggressive though that we end

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Speaker 3: up on Thursday.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that would be pretty unlikely at this point.

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Speaker 6: I would be surprised if that happens.

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Speaker 2: You would so about you.

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Speaker 6: I learned never to say never.

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Speaker 3: For sure, never to say never. All right, when you

1176
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:51,360
Speaker 3: look at this roster and you and I got to

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Speaker 3: talk about this a couple of days ago, But I mean,

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00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 3: you could make I think a pretty darn complete fifty

1179
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:59,719
Speaker 3: three right now, and in fact, with some competition from

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00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:03,399
Speaker 3: fifty three through call fifty nine to make this football team.

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00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 3: And yet you're gonna go out there and pick in

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Speaker 3: the second round, the third, the fifth, couple, in the sixth,

1183
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Speaker 3: couple in the seventh. What what's kind of your mindset

1184
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:13,919
Speaker 3: with these picks? Because it's the days are long gone

1185
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:16,400
Speaker 3: of we need a starter at left tackle, we need

1186
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:19,920
Speaker 3: a starter at mike linebacker. It's more kind of filling

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Speaker 3: in and then thinking probably about the future.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's it's definitely more future for ours. Just say,

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00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 6: it's more long term focus. You know, we look at

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Speaker 6: the draft as being investing in the long term health

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00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:34,239
Speaker 6: of the roster, long term investment at certain positions, and

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Speaker 6: so as we go into it, it really is with

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Speaker 6: without a ton of consideration to where we sit today,

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00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 6: because you know, once we get into the season, you know,

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00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 6: you get surprises in both directions, whether guys they take

1196
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:51,319
Speaker 6: the leap, whether guys you don't get hurt, they age out,

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Speaker 6: or just things go differently than you than you expect.

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Speaker 6: So we are pleased with where the roster sits today,

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Speaker 6: but nobody really knows. So sure, you know, we'll look

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Speaker 6: to to to really build the best you know, ninety

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00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 6: men roster that we can, you know, with the long

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00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 6: term health of of of of our team in mind

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00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 6: and attack.

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Speaker 4: It that way.

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Speaker 3: How long did it take you in this role or

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00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 3: and I'm guessing because you're you this happened much earlier

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Speaker 3: in your career. But one of the things that when

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Speaker 3: I first came into the to the Browns organization, you

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00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:22,919
Speaker 3: got to training camp and you have in your mind

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Speaker 3: that everybody did something good the year before, like that's

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Speaker 3: going to continue and never change. Right, All the good

1212
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:28,719
Speaker 3: is good and then we're just going to fix the

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00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 3: bad and then everything's going to work out. Well, as

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Speaker 3: you mentioned, that's not the reality. How long did it

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Speaker 3: take you to kind of realize that just because somebody

1216
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:36,719
Speaker 3: who is good a year ago, that doesn't mean their

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00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 3: trajectory stays the exact same and you have to think

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Speaker 3: about all of those contingencies.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean it was something that Bill Polland actually

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Speaker 6: said in his in a different in a different way.

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Speaker 6: You know, he would talk about you and your needs

1222
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:51,759
Speaker 6: today aren't the same as your needs tomorrow. And you

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00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 6: know that was maybe like a broader comment in terms

1224
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 6: of the roster, but uh, it's something that that that

1225
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:01,880
Speaker 6: you know, he he would always you know, make his

1226
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:04,239
Speaker 6: staff aware of at a you know, at a at

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Speaker 6: a you know, at an early point in my career.

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Speaker 6: So that really always stuck with me. And then as

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00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:10,399
Speaker 6: you have, you know, more cycles and more seasons under

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Speaker 6: your belt, like you do realize that it's just it's

1231
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:15,759
Speaker 6: you'd like to think it's just, hey, you leave off

1232
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 6: right where you were at the end of last year,

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Speaker 6: but that's just not the reality of the sport.

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Speaker 3: What did it say to you? Because not only trying

1235
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:23,760
Speaker 3: to build a great team here, I know, how important

1236
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 3: is that you're trying to build a great culture, which facilitates,

1237
00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 3: I think and lifts up a great team and I

1238
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:30,799
Speaker 3: think you've done that talking to the guys just how

1239
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:32,759
Speaker 3: much they love being in that locker room. What was

1240
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:35,280
Speaker 3: it like to have a free agency period where everybody

1241
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 3: wanted to come back.

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Speaker 6: I mean, it's it's always something that's a it's a

1243
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 6: good problem to have, you know, you can't always bring

1244
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 6: everybody back, obviously, but we had a good group that

1245
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 6: enjoyed being around one another, that most importantly played well together.

1246
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:53,600
Speaker 6: And and and some level of continuity is good, especially

1247
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:56,800
Speaker 6: in team sports, where guys learn how to play together,

1248
00:56:57,040 --> 00:56:59,279
Speaker 6: and specifically you hope that you're a young team that

1249
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:02,880
Speaker 6: like grows together. And so that was pretty cool to

1250
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:05,799
Speaker 6: see this past offseason. We obviously did bring a lot

1251
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 6: of guys back. I can't say that was like the primary,

1252
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:13,759
Speaker 6: you know, driving factor for our motivation for you our

1253
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 6: off season rules, but you know, we are we are

1254
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 6: excited to have the the nucleus still in place when you.

1255
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Speaker 3: Have guys who have played at a high level like

1256
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 3: a Zadarius Smith and Shelby and and you know, even

1257
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 3: a guy like Mohurst who's been in the league a while,

1258
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 3: where Rodney McCloud, who's been a Super Bowl champion, played

1259
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 3: at high level and various stops along the way when

1260
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:33,080
Speaker 3: guys who have been around the league and seen other

1261
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:34,840
Speaker 3: locker rooms and been a part of other cultures and

1262
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 3: other teams that have had success, but they're like, no, no, no,

1263
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 3: this is where I want to be. Does that at

1264
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 3: least maybe in the back of your mind say we're

1265
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 3: doing something right in terms of what we're trying to

1266
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:44,440
Speaker 3: build from a culture standpoint, Yeah.

1267
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Speaker 6: I mean, I think you always want to have positive,

1268
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 6: you know, feedback from your players, but I think, you know,

1269
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:52,680
Speaker 6: probably the biggest your proof of the pudding is winning,

1270
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:55,040
Speaker 6: you know, at the end of the day, you know,

1271
00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:58,360
Speaker 6: because that's really our our primary available and and and

1272
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:01,840
Speaker 6: certainly how come together as a team plays a plays

1273
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 6: a role in that. But at the same time, like

1274
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 6: we don't want to have a good culture and and

1275
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 6: not and not lose a bunch of games. So that's

1276
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:11,320
Speaker 6: really what's at the forefront of our minds.

1277
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 3: And hopefully that as we say, kind of booies everything there.

1278
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 3: We talked about the roster off season. If you want

1279
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 3: to talk about some of the additions, anybody that kind

1280
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 3: of jumped out to you that you were very excited

1281
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 3: to add, And I can tell you from the people

1282
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 3: I talked to, Jordan X was a really impressive, really

1283
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 3: pleasive guy.

1284
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:28,760
Speaker 6: So Jordan, he fills a similar role to what Anthony

1285
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 6: Walker did for us a number of years ago. Jordan,

1286
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:35,280
Speaker 6: he's a season experienced, you know, Mike linebacker for us.

1287
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:38,120
Speaker 6: He knows the ind and outs of the particular scheme

1288
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:41,080
Speaker 6: that we that we run. You know, Jim crossed over

1289
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 6: with him in Philly. He was leaving when I was

1290
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:45,480
Speaker 6: going in Philly, but you know, he made his he

1291
00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:50,440
Speaker 6: made his lasting imprint and he's just an athletic, instinctive linebacker.

1292
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:52,400
Speaker 6: That's you know what we call like the chief fixed

1293
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 6: officer on the field. He's so sharp cerebrally and then

1294
00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:59,080
Speaker 6: provides a leadership along the way that we felt like

1295
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:02,840
Speaker 6: he was a really nice veterment veteran veteran to supplement

1296
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:03,880
Speaker 6: our our defense.

1297
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Speaker 3: So he added him kind of as the big piece

1298
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:08,320
Speaker 3: there defensively offensively, it was the trade once again. Jerry

1299
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:12,200
Speaker 3: Judy comes in a first round talent, great route runner, separator.

1300
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 3: I know that that's one of the things you like

1301
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 3: about him. How did that present itself? And you guys

1302
00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:17,600
Speaker 3: were kind of on the trail for a little while

1303
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 3: and then how do you see him kind of fitting in?

1304
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think with Jerry, you know, he's a player

1305
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:27,440
Speaker 6: who's got speed, separation ability, he can create with the

1306
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:29,480
Speaker 6: ball in his hands, and then he can play outside

1307
00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:35,680
Speaker 6: and inside. So we'll allows you offensively to create mismatching

1308
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:39,600
Speaker 6: a diverse set of ways along with complementing the rest

1309
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 6: of our the rest of our skill group. And you know,

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Speaker 6: really how it came about was was was largely how

1311
00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:47,160
Speaker 6: all these things come about. We're pretty active in the

1312
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:51,040
Speaker 6: trade market, you know, we're constantly making calls, constantly doing research.

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00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:55,040
Speaker 6: Be honest, Like going into the combine, that wasn't really

1314
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Speaker 6: on our radar, although we knew it, you know, and

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00:59:57,360 --> 00:59:59,960
Speaker 6: maybe past offseason it's something that we at least check

1316
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:02,120
Speaker 6: in on, but it really wasn't on our radar going

1317
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:05,880
Speaker 6: into the combine. So it came together, i'd say, relatively quickly,

1318
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:09,040
Speaker 6: you know, once we knew that there was a potential

1319
01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:11,440
Speaker 6: for him to be to be available and it was

1320
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Speaker 6: just the right fit for us, and it was the

1321
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Speaker 6: right fit for Denver, and we're glad he's here.

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Speaker 3: Can you give a little peek behind the curtain, like

1323
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Speaker 3: how does that happen? Are you out at Saint Elmo's

1324
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Speaker 3: and in comes you know from Denver and they're like, hey,

1325
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Speaker 3: it really.

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Speaker 6: It really ends up becoming a you know, a function

1327
01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:28,440
Speaker 6: of you know, regular trade calls and make or the

1328
01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:31,480
Speaker 6: combine is easy because everyone's in once shot. It may

1329
01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:34,080
Speaker 6: be you know, part of conversations usually when the workouts

1330
01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:37,080
Speaker 6: are going between breaks, you know, teams or gms are

1331
01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:39,240
Speaker 6: going to each other's suites and everything just to talk

1332
01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:41,160
Speaker 6: roster and so it really we were I think we

1333
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:43,800
Speaker 6: were actually right next to Denver during the combine. So

1334
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Speaker 6: we just came up with that just with the conversation

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Speaker 6: with George.

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Speaker 3: So I said, then you're you're like, okay, all right,

1337
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Speaker 3: I'm Pappy, I'm yeah, I'm interested in so do a

1338
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:51,960
Speaker 3: little bit of work with it. Yeah, And then here

1339
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:53,520
Speaker 3: Jerry Judy is So that's exciting.

1340
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Speaker 2: Listen.

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Speaker 3: It's a weapons league, and you've talked about how you're

1342
01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:58,680
Speaker 3: so focused on the trenches but also very cognizant of

1343
01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 3: the fact that weapons are need you go get him.

1344
01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 3: You've invested some draft picks and receivers as well. What

1345
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:04,840
Speaker 3: can you tell us about David Bell, who I thought

1346
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:07,440
Speaker 3: played very well against Cincinnati in that season finale and

1347
01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:08,960
Speaker 3: then said or till him in a couple of third

1348
01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:10,000
Speaker 3: rounders from the last few years.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so David, you know, David our staff calls a

1350
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:17,919
Speaker 6: mister reliable. He's he's probably especially in this offense where

1351
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:22,480
Speaker 6: we'll probably see an expansion of the use of choice routes.

1352
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:25,360
Speaker 6: He's very smart, good decision maker with those, and has

1353
01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:27,600
Speaker 6: very reliable hands. So he's a little bit like a

1354
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:32,240
Speaker 6: quarterback's you know, safety blanket said, bigger body receiver who's

1355
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:35,120
Speaker 6: a really good separator, you know, and has strong hands.

1356
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:37,320
Speaker 6: I think we all saw him take off in the

1357
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:40,919
Speaker 6: second half of last year, so we're really excited about

1358
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:42,320
Speaker 6: him and what he can add to the offense in

1359
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:44,760
Speaker 6: that group in general, just because we you know, when

1360
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:47,880
Speaker 6: we build our skill group, we want skill sets that

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01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:52,040
Speaker 6: complimentary compliment one another. Sure, we'd love to have, you know,

1362
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:53,840
Speaker 6: an Amari Cooper who can really kind of do a

1363
01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:57,640
Speaker 6: little bit of everything, you know with absent using you know,

1364
01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:01,480
Speaker 6: a a you know, high of resources on the position.

1365
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:04,400
Speaker 6: We really look more for specific skill sets that can

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Speaker 6: do specific roles within the offense.

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Speaker 3: So that's kind of your receiver room is. I feel

1368
01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:11,640
Speaker 3: pretty good about it now with Amar, Jerry Judy, Elijah Moore,

1369
01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:13,480
Speaker 3: the two young guys, and some more I'm sure who

1370
01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:14,800
Speaker 3: are going to be competing as it goes on.

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Speaker 6: We do feel good about that group.

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Speaker 3: No, it's got to play out.

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01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:22,560
Speaker 6: We believe in having as much competition across the different

1374
01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:25,560
Speaker 6: rooms as possible. But uh, you know, we do feel

1375
01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:27,720
Speaker 6: like we have a number of individuals that bring something

1376
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:28,560
Speaker 6: unique to the table.

1377
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Speaker 3: When you kind of go into a draft and you

1378
01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:32,720
Speaker 3: think of, you know you talked about earlier, are our

1379
01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:36,560
Speaker 3: top assets, right, you kind of like to classify those

1380
01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:39,280
Speaker 3: top assets into certain positions, not classified, but to kind

1381
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:42,320
Speaker 3: of there are groupings of positions that are worthy of

1382
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:45,000
Speaker 3: that asset due to because salaries and things of that nature.

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Speaker 3: What's kind of just big picture wise, what are the

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Speaker 3: kind of them, in your mind, the most important positions

1385
01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:53,520
Speaker 3: for top level assets in the draft or even you know,

1386
01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:54,120
Speaker 3: in a trade.

1387
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I think people know we're a quarterback

1388
01:02:56,560 --> 01:03:00,240
Speaker 6: centric organization. Is the most important positions, but it's I

1389
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:01,880
Speaker 6: think people know that we like climen like that. I

1390
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:04,240
Speaker 6: don't think that's a secret. And then you know, really

1391
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:06,880
Speaker 6: positions that influence the passing game, you know, that's really

1392
01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:10,360
Speaker 6: our priority. That we don't operate exclusively in that manner,

1393
01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:12,400
Speaker 6: and you have to be able to be you know,

1394
01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:15,480
Speaker 6: flexible just because you can't dictate or control the draft.

1395
01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:17,960
Speaker 6: But over the long run, you'll probably see our investment

1396
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:18,560
Speaker 6: in those areas.

1397
01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:23,400
Speaker 3: Speaking of the quarterback, how's de Shaun doing. He's feeling good,

1398
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:26,360
Speaker 3: looking good, and it seems very positive for right now.

1399
01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:29,840
Speaker 6: Deshaun's doing well. He's he's progressing a properly in his rehab.

1400
01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:33,880
Speaker 6: You know, he's he's continues to ramp up his throwing progression.

1401
01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:37,680
Speaker 6: We're all very pleased with with what we've seen in

1402
01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:40,920
Speaker 6: terms of his recovery to date, and we'll continue to

1403
01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:41,720
Speaker 6: take a week by week.

1404
01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:43,440
Speaker 3: When I ask you about the running back room, and

1405
01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:45,440
Speaker 3: you can throw a sprinkle a Nick Chub update in

1406
01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:48,200
Speaker 3: there while you do it. But you know, I think

1407
01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:49,760
Speaker 3: Pierre So, I like Pierre Song a lot. I think

1408
01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:51,040
Speaker 3: he's got a little bit of juice. Drome had a

1409
01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:53,040
Speaker 3: tremendous year for us as well. You bring in a

1410
01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:55,880
Speaker 3: Deonta Foreman, who I look this up. He had eleven

1411
01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:57,439
Speaker 3: games in his career, He's gotten twenty or more carries,

1412
01:03:57,480 --> 01:03:58,920
Speaker 3: He's run for more than one hundred yards. And seven

1413
01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:01,800
Speaker 3: of them so strong, physical back and kind of do

1414
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:04,200
Speaker 3: kind of some of those short yardage things. And then

1415
01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:06,560
Speaker 3: you add in nahem Hinz who can return kicks but

1416
01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:08,480
Speaker 3: also speed catches the ball and back field all that.

1417
01:04:09,080 --> 01:04:10,400
Speaker 3: When you kind of look at that room, are you

1418
01:04:10,520 --> 01:04:12,440
Speaker 3: happy with where that is right now because you've got

1419
01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:14,200
Speaker 3: a mix of veterans and young guys or is that

1420
01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:15,960
Speaker 3: a room as well that you know you want to

1421
01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:17,760
Speaker 3: think about this year and beyond.

1422
01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:20,400
Speaker 6: I'd say everyone we think about this year and beyond.

1423
01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:23,080
Speaker 6: But as it sits here today, we were pleased with

1424
01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:25,480
Speaker 6: the performance that we got out of that room last year.

1425
01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:28,240
Speaker 6: I think we were able to sprinkle in some additional

1426
01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:31,280
Speaker 6: skill sets and I've mentioned I think the running back

1427
01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:34,840
Speaker 6: position is it's more of a platoon position in today's game.

1428
01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:37,200
Speaker 6: And you know, we certainly feel like we have the

1429
01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:39,480
Speaker 6: skill sets there currently. That's not to say that we

1430
01:04:39,560 --> 01:04:43,000
Speaker 6: won't add between now and you know, the September opener,

1431
01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:46,120
Speaker 6: but we like the guys that we have today.

1432
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:49,680
Speaker 3: Talk about your draft board. When do you say, all right,

1433
01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:53,200
Speaker 3: enough's enough. We cannot can chase ghosts no more analysis

1434
01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:55,479
Speaker 3: the board is set. Have we reached that point?

1435
01:04:55,720 --> 01:04:59,120
Speaker 6: No, it's it's it's at that point it's really more

1436
01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:02,120
Speaker 6: thinking through stret At this point, usually the boards probably

1437
01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:05,080
Speaker 6: set two weeks out before the draft, apps in any

1438
01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:10,080
Speaker 6: you know, unique or special information you know coming in,

1439
01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:12,880
Speaker 6: and then really really the last two weeks it's scenario

1440
01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:14,320
Speaker 6: planning and strategy.

1441
01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:16,960
Speaker 3: The simulations. Which are you guys like to do those right?

1442
01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:17,840
Speaker 5: We do? We do.

1443
01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:20,440
Speaker 6: We run through a number of different simulations just to

1444
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:23,960
Speaker 6: maybe stress tests you know what our preferences are at

1445
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:26,680
Speaker 6: different picks, and you know what we would do if

1446
01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:30,000
Speaker 6: presented with different trade scenarios. Because it's a little bit

1447
01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:35,280
Speaker 6: like when we're in the fall and the team practices

1448
01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:39,240
Speaker 6: based downs, third down, red zone, short yardage, goal line

1449
01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:41,640
Speaker 6: two minutes throughout the week to be prepared for the

1450
01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:44,160
Speaker 6: upcoming opponent. Sure, there's no different for us that the

1451
01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:46,560
Speaker 6: first time you don't want to react to a set

1452
01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:48,920
Speaker 6: of scenarios is when you're on the clock, because at

1453
01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:50,960
Speaker 6: that point, when you get to Thursday, Friday, Saturday, it's

1454
01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:52,200
Speaker 6: really about execution.

1455
01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:55,640
Speaker 3: In that once your board's kind of set and you

1456
01:05:55,720 --> 01:05:57,480
Speaker 3: can talk as much or as little as you want

1457
01:05:57,520 --> 01:05:58,840
Speaker 3: about this. But I know part of it is kind

1458
01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:01,280
Speaker 3: of there is some information and sharing where you're able

1459
01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:03,640
Speaker 3: to kind of gauge what's maybe the perception of a

1460
01:06:03,680 --> 01:06:05,640
Speaker 3: guy that you like or maybe don't like preps. It's

1461
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:07,480
Speaker 3: putting that out there as well. But how does that

1462
01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:09,960
Speaker 3: really kind of work? And is it a certain group

1463
01:06:10,040 --> 01:06:11,840
Speaker 3: of people you trust that trust you that you guys

1464
01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:13,600
Speaker 3: are able to kind of look at things in the

1465
01:06:13,640 --> 01:06:14,040
Speaker 3: same way.

1466
01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:18,240
Speaker 6: You know, most of our talks are stay internal.

1467
01:06:18,800 --> 01:06:18,960
Speaker 5: You know.

1468
01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:20,440
Speaker 6: That's not to say that you know, if you have

1469
01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:23,000
Speaker 6: a like mentor like how we are you know, a

1470
01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:25,320
Speaker 6: friend like quasi where you may bounce something off of

1471
01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:28,480
Speaker 6: them when you know you're not maybe in the same

1472
01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:31,920
Speaker 6: market for a specific position. But most of the work

1473
01:06:32,040 --> 01:06:32,880
Speaker 6: is really done internally.

1474
01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:34,960
Speaker 3: How excited are you for this? As I know you

1475
01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:37,000
Speaker 3: probably like, hurry up, let's let's let's get it going.

1476
01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:39,560
Speaker 6: It's definitely been hurry up and wait time for a

1477
01:06:39,600 --> 01:06:42,360
Speaker 6: little bit. So or we're kind of ready to go.

1478
01:06:42,560 --> 01:06:45,360
Speaker 6: We've spent enough time, you know, talking through scenarios and

1479
01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:48,680
Speaker 6: talking through prospects that you know, we're ready to go

1480
01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:52,520
Speaker 6: this weekend. But it's also nice that this is kind

1481
01:06:52,520 --> 01:06:55,640
Speaker 6: of a slow week. We'll do a couple more you know,

1482
01:06:55,760 --> 01:06:57,000
Speaker 6: sessions of scenario playing.

1483
01:06:57,000 --> 01:06:58,880
Speaker 3: Our scouts are in which is always great to see them,

1484
01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:02,520
Speaker 3: but we are ready to go in those scenarios. You ever,

1485
01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:05,600
Speaker 3: let somebody else be the one that has to make

1486
01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:07,720
Speaker 3: that decision, just to kind of see how they handle

1487
01:07:07,760 --> 01:07:08,760
Speaker 3: those type of situations.

1488
01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:12,640
Speaker 6: Less so and like a like a formal aspect like

1489
01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:15,640
Speaker 6: usually we'll we'll have the group make the selection if

1490
01:07:15,640 --> 01:07:17,919
Speaker 6: we run through like a simulation rather than be saying

1491
01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:21,919
Speaker 6: who I'm actually gonna pick. But it really is more

1492
01:07:22,280 --> 01:07:25,960
Speaker 6: like dress rehearsal practice, so we try and make it

1493
01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:27,040
Speaker 6: as realistic as possible.

1494
01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:30,160
Speaker 3: If you can say fill in the blank after this draft,

1495
01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:31,800
Speaker 3: it will be a success in your mind.

1496
01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:35,960
Speaker 6: Maximize our resources, simple as that. Whatever that looks like,

1497
01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:38,920
Speaker 6: whether that's trades, player selections, you name it, it's really

1498
01:07:39,040 --> 01:07:41,040
Speaker 6: just about maximizing your resources or.

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01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:43,520
Speaker 3: Excited to see you maximize our resources. AB thank you

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Speaker 3: so much for the time in best of luck, Thank.

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Speaker 2: You Nate, and thank you Nate. Good job on that.

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1523
01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:33,960
Speaker 2: in the category with Julio Jones and AJ Green and

1524
01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:37,320
Speaker 2: those type of guys in terms of what he quite good.

1525
01:09:37,520 --> 01:09:38,080
Speaker 2: He's quite good.

1526
01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:38,320
Speaker 4: YEP.

1527
01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:42,120
Speaker 2: Here is This is from Marty Smith of ESPN, and

1528
01:09:42,280 --> 01:09:43,719
Speaker 2: this is his old man.

1529
01:09:45,360 --> 01:09:50,240
Speaker 4: Involved, the youngsters involved, Marty's involved. It is a very okay,

1530
01:09:50,439 --> 01:09:52,280
Speaker 4: eye opening little segment.

1531
01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:53,360
Speaker 2: Let's go, let's have a listen.

1532
01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:56,519
Speaker 9: It's one thing that I wish he had from my game.

1533
01:09:56,800 --> 01:09:59,719
Speaker 9: You got to complain for them all. You gotta complain

1534
01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:04,720
Speaker 9: Monday morning. If I have five catches seventy yards, we

1535
01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:06,439
Speaker 9: can't do nothing else till we have mean because I'm

1536
01:10:06,439 --> 01:10:07,600
Speaker 9: not getting the ball, le's it.

1537
01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:10,040
Speaker 4: Throw me the ball, period. Be a bigger diva.

1538
01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:12,800
Speaker 3: That's the advice for your kid. Be the bigger diva.

1539
01:10:12,880 --> 01:10:13,519
Speaker 2: That's pretty good.

1540
01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:13,840
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1541
01:10:13,880 --> 01:10:17,760
Speaker 5: I asked him what he would do if he were you,

1542
01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:20,720
Speaker 5: and his answer was I would go in there and say,

1543
01:10:21,080 --> 01:10:25,439
Speaker 5: give me the ball straight up. To what degree have

1544
01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:27,880
Speaker 5: you started to demand the football more?

1545
01:10:29,640 --> 01:10:31,320
Speaker 1: I mean, not much, exactly.

1546
01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:37,599
Speaker 9: I have a different level of the expectations for my kid.

1547
01:10:38,320 --> 01:10:40,200
Speaker 9: I expect him to win every one on one. I

1548
01:10:40,280 --> 01:10:42,599
Speaker 9: expect him to get open every play. So my expectations

1549
01:10:42,600 --> 01:10:43,200
Speaker 9: are right way.

1550
01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:43,400
Speaker 4: They need to be.

1551
01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:45,280
Speaker 6: What do you believe you're ceiling?

1552
01:10:46,240 --> 01:10:47,880
Speaker 2: I'm going to be bescial SI at every play?

1553
01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:49,880
Speaker 3: What does greatness look like for you?

1554
01:10:51,160 --> 01:10:51,559
Speaker 1: My dad?

1555
01:10:54,240 --> 01:11:01,479
Speaker 2: All right, I'll be conflicted because no, no, whatever, so

1556
01:11:03,200 --> 01:11:06,960
Speaker 2: this kid is the hardest working dude they've ever had

1557
01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:12,280
Speaker 2: come through there. I'm saying it. I'm saying it emphatically,

1558
01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:15,320
Speaker 2: like they have never had anybody who spends more time

1559
01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:19,840
Speaker 2: in the facility during their time there than him. Like

1560
01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:23,680
Speaker 2: jugs machine upon there's some machine they have down there.

1561
01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:26,600
Speaker 2: I don't even know if we have one that that

1562
01:11:26,720 --> 01:11:29,040
Speaker 2: they have down there. That's the state of the art

1563
01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:32,080
Speaker 2: jugs machine thing that they have, and he is on

1564
01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:35,400
Speaker 2: it constantly, constantly all the way through spring practice. He's

1565
01:11:35,439 --> 01:11:37,880
Speaker 2: there all day. That's all he does. So he's got

1566
01:11:37,960 --> 01:11:38,559
Speaker 2: this work ethic.

1567
01:11:38,600 --> 01:11:39,480
Speaker 4: He's a model.

1568
01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:42,320
Speaker 2: Citizen in terms of how he's handled himself throughout. So

1569
01:11:42,720 --> 01:11:46,000
Speaker 2: obviously the dad played a part in getting him to

1570
01:11:46,120 --> 01:11:48,600
Speaker 2: what he is and that work ethic and all of it.

1571
01:11:49,160 --> 01:11:52,000
Speaker 2: But then that comes out of the dad's mouth and

1572
01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:54,640
Speaker 2: I think that's I understand what he means, but like

1573
01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:57,720
Speaker 2: I also don't, so I'm conflicted on what to make

1574
01:11:57,800 --> 01:11:57,960
Speaker 2: of that.

1575
01:12:00,320 --> 01:12:02,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was that didn't sound joyous to me. That

1576
01:12:02,680 --> 01:12:06,360
Speaker 3: didn't like a joyous situation for him. His expectations are.

1577
01:12:07,400 --> 01:12:08,800
Speaker 3: It feels like a little bit of a yoke that

1578
01:12:08,840 --> 01:12:12,599
Speaker 3: he's under. He clearly I think as the benefit as

1579
01:12:12,720 --> 01:12:14,400
Speaker 3: many of us do, to say, Okay, this is what

1580
01:12:14,520 --> 01:12:16,160
Speaker 3: my dad did that I like, this is what maybe

1581
01:12:16,240 --> 01:12:19,240
Speaker 3: I want to do differently. And he seems pretty resolute

1582
01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:22,400
Speaker 3: and that he's doing it. So I say kudos to Junior.

1583
01:12:22,520 --> 01:12:24,400
Speaker 2: In the three years that he was in Columbus, I

1584
01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:25,840
Speaker 2: never heard from the dad.

1585
01:12:25,880 --> 01:12:28,880
Speaker 4: Well, and he he might have had some periods of

1586
01:12:28,920 --> 01:12:31,479
Speaker 4: time where he could have an argument about not getting

1587
01:12:31,520 --> 01:12:34,240
Speaker 4: the ball in the sure or not making enough play.

1588
01:12:34,160 --> 01:12:36,800
Speaker 2: There's no question, but I never heard from he was

1589
01:12:36,840 --> 01:12:40,680
Speaker 2: ever a distraction down there. Nope, Senior wasn't. So this

1590
01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:43,040
Speaker 2: is this is all just It's just I've never heard

1591
01:12:43,080 --> 01:12:43,479
Speaker 2: anything like.

1592
01:12:44,280 --> 01:12:46,759
Speaker 4: Coming from forty eight hours out from the draft.

1593
01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:48,120
Speaker 2: But yeah, and I.

1594
01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:48,640
Speaker 3: Don't like.

1595
01:12:50,600 --> 01:12:55,040
Speaker 4: I can appreciate wanting to make your parents proud, but

1596
01:12:56,160 --> 01:12:59,080
Speaker 4: like the fact that the only thing that matters is

1597
01:13:00,160 --> 01:13:04,200
Speaker 4: you know what gives you, like the what makes you

1598
01:13:04,240 --> 01:13:06,640
Speaker 4: with the happiest, making dad happy. Dude, you got to

1599
01:13:06,680 --> 01:13:09,519
Speaker 4: make yourself happy. Yep, you got you gotta take care

1600
01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:12,000
Speaker 4: of you. Yeah, Like your parents are already proud of

1601
01:13:12,040 --> 01:13:14,920
Speaker 4: you and they're already happy for you. Like you got

1602
01:13:15,040 --> 01:13:17,519
Speaker 4: to go live and do your thing. I hope that

1603
01:13:17,680 --> 01:13:23,760
Speaker 4: this isn't a case where this guy becomes the meddling dad. Yeah,

1604
01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:25,720
Speaker 4: and I got to hear from him all the time,

1605
01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:28,599
Speaker 4: more than I hear from his kid, who's a pros

1606
01:13:28,680 --> 01:13:31,000
Speaker 4: pro from what I've seen and everything I've heard so far.

1607
01:13:31,200 --> 01:13:34,519
Speaker 3: By the way, I would love to hear Peyton Manning

1608
01:13:35,560 --> 01:13:39,599
Speaker 3: discuss a Monday meeting with Marvin Harrison where he had

1609
01:13:39,640 --> 01:13:41,280
Speaker 3: five for seventy one and he was like, I'm not

1610
01:13:41,320 --> 01:13:41,920
Speaker 3: getting the ball.

1611
01:13:42,160 --> 01:13:44,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't imagine that would be a very long conversation.

1612
01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:46,639
Speaker 3: I feel like Peyton man would be like, get out

1613
01:13:46,680 --> 01:13:49,240
Speaker 3: to get out of here. Yeah, you seem pretty adamant

1614
01:13:49,240 --> 01:13:51,360
Speaker 3: that he did it, like from a pretty tough perspective.

1615
01:13:51,439 --> 01:13:53,240
Speaker 2: You never heard anything from him as a player though, too,

1616
01:13:53,280 --> 01:13:55,400
Speaker 2: because he wasn't saying you never heard anything from him

1617
01:13:56,040 --> 01:13:58,360
Speaker 2: as a player. No, He's one of the most anonymous

1618
01:13:58,360 --> 01:14:01,439
Speaker 2: superstars ever. Like there was never complaining about the ball

1619
01:14:01,600 --> 01:14:03,640
Speaker 2: or complaining about anything like, but it must have, but

1620
01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:07,120
Speaker 2: maybe it happened behind the scenes, or maybe he feels

1621
01:14:07,160 --> 01:14:09,960
Speaker 2: like he doesn't get the respect that he's had earned

1622
01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:11,880
Speaker 2: because of the way that he went about his business.

1623
01:14:11,960 --> 01:14:13,920
Speaker 2: And the receivers will get talked about more from that

1624
01:14:14,040 --> 01:14:16,600
Speaker 2: error were the more boisterous ones. Yeah, I don't know,

1625
01:14:17,360 --> 01:14:17,680
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1626
01:14:18,120 --> 01:14:20,559
Speaker 4: It was just it was something. Uno was like, hey,

1627
01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:22,760
Speaker 4: have you seen this? And I'm like, nope, I haven't

1628
01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:24,360
Speaker 4: seen this. And then I heard it and I'm like,

1629
01:14:25,240 --> 01:14:28,200
Speaker 4: this doesn't make any sense for what he was at

1630
01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:28,880
Speaker 4: Ohio State.

1631
01:14:29,240 --> 01:14:32,400
Speaker 2: No, no, no, nor would his dad. Yeah, I mean

1632
01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:33,600
Speaker 2: his dad didn't do any of that stuff at all.

1633
01:14:33,640 --> 01:14:37,800
Speaker 2: I mean there's nothing. All right, little guests, the stats time, Yeah,

1634
01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:41,280
Speaker 2: Uno put this together. Go ahead, all right.

1635
01:14:41,320 --> 01:14:43,680
Speaker 8: So this was actually gonna be a griff fact of

1636
01:14:43,720 --> 01:14:45,240
Speaker 8: the day, but we thought it would be more fun

1637
01:14:45,320 --> 01:14:48,559
Speaker 8: if you guys tried to guess the top ten colleges

1638
01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:51,479
Speaker 8: with the most NFL draft picks in the history of

1639
01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:52,519
Speaker 8: the NFL Draft.

1640
01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:56,160
Speaker 7: So I've got the list here of the ten. Where

1641
01:14:56,160 --> 01:14:57,040
Speaker 7: do you guys want to start.

1642
01:14:57,840 --> 01:14:59,519
Speaker 3: I'm just I'm not gonna try to do it an order.

1643
01:14:59,520 --> 01:15:01,160
Speaker 3: I'm gonna just throat that's fine.

1644
01:15:01,160 --> 01:15:05,200
Speaker 2: The name out one, two, three, four, five, six, seven.

1645
01:15:07,240 --> 01:15:11,120
Speaker 2: Let me just get let me get a couple more so, NFL.

1646
01:15:11,160 --> 01:15:12,960
Speaker 2: You get the thing that tricky here is the NFL.

1647
01:15:13,920 --> 01:15:15,880
Speaker 2: You gotta time it up with the NF How long

1648
01:15:15,920 --> 01:15:24,880
Speaker 2: the NFL has been in existence four nine. All right,

1649
01:15:25,920 --> 01:15:33,040
Speaker 2: I'm relatively camp No, that's not no, m okay, I

1650
01:15:33,120 --> 01:15:33,679
Speaker 2: got eleven.

1651
01:15:34,479 --> 01:15:35,479
Speaker 3: I don't do eleven as well.

1652
01:15:36,200 --> 01:15:39,439
Speaker 2: That's that's cheating. I mean, there's four that are no

1653
01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:42,160
Speaker 2: brainer in the top ten. That's lock Stock and they're

1654
01:15:42,160 --> 01:15:45,080
Speaker 2: the four winning. They are the Mount Rushmore college football programs,

1655
01:15:45,120 --> 01:15:48,360
Speaker 2: and that's Ohio State, USC, Oklahoma and USC.

1656
01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:53,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, USC two, Ohio State three, Oklahoma.

1657
01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:56,360
Speaker 2: Four, Ohio State three Oklahoma?

1658
01:15:56,479 --> 01:15:57,800
Speaker 7: What Oklahoma was four?

1659
01:15:58,000 --> 01:15:59,800
Speaker 2: And what USC was? What two?

1660
01:16:00,280 --> 01:16:01,040
Speaker 3: What was Alabama?

1661
01:16:01,240 --> 01:16:03,840
Speaker 7: Alabama is tied.

1662
01:16:03,720 --> 01:16:07,760
Speaker 2: For fifth fifth, Okay, So Notre Dame is one.

1663
01:16:08,000 --> 01:16:08,680
Speaker 7: Notre Dame is one.

1664
01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:10,760
Speaker 2: I have Notre Dame on okay. And that's so that's

1665
01:16:10,960 --> 01:16:12,519
Speaker 2: mostly really old school.

1666
01:16:13,200 --> 01:16:13,479
Speaker 1: Alright.

1667
01:16:13,960 --> 01:16:16,040
Speaker 2: So the five, the first five I wrote down.

1668
01:16:16,080 --> 01:16:20,240
Speaker 7: With those five, you've got five, but there's also another

1669
01:16:20,240 --> 01:16:21,080
Speaker 7: one tied for fifth.

1670
01:16:21,439 --> 01:16:26,519
Speaker 2: I have Georgia, so I think tied for fifth. I'm

1671
01:16:26,600 --> 01:16:30,080
Speaker 2: going to go Pennsylvania State.

1672
01:16:30,360 --> 01:16:33,280
Speaker 7: Pennsylvania State is sixth. Georgia is ninth.

1673
01:16:34,520 --> 01:16:37,120
Speaker 2: I did not have penn State, so penn State sixth.

1674
01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:40,880
Speaker 2: I'm going to go Michigan. I have Michigan fifth.

1675
01:16:41,000 --> 01:16:45,240
Speaker 8: Michigan is tied for fifth with Alabama. That makes sense, okay,

1676
01:16:45,640 --> 01:16:47,160
Speaker 8: So you have seven and eight left.

1677
01:16:48,960 --> 01:16:52,320
Speaker 2: Georgia's ninth, okay, so I would say Texas, I have Texas.

1678
01:16:52,920 --> 01:16:54,320
Speaker 7: Texas is thirteenth.

1679
01:16:54,560 --> 01:16:54,880
Speaker 4: Wow.

1680
01:16:56,360 --> 01:16:58,280
Speaker 7: So the way this is written on here from this

1681
01:16:59,160 --> 01:17:01,560
Speaker 7: because there's a tie for fifth, Yeah, I got you.

1682
01:17:01,640 --> 01:17:02,479
Speaker 2: There's not a full ten.

1683
01:17:02,600 --> 01:17:02,800
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1684
01:17:02,840 --> 01:17:05,680
Speaker 8: The tenth place team is technically Georgia, but at their

1685
01:17:05,720 --> 01:17:07,519
Speaker 8: listed is ninth on here because of the tie.

1686
01:17:07,680 --> 01:17:09,800
Speaker 2: Okay. So if you guys are now this is where

1687
01:17:09,840 --> 01:17:13,360
Speaker 2: it gets tricky because you say, like, for example, the

1688
01:17:13,439 --> 01:17:16,479
Speaker 2: two that I think would be very high on this list,

1689
01:17:16,520 --> 01:17:20,800
Speaker 2: but it would have to be an incredible amount in

1690
01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:23,360
Speaker 2: a short period of time are Miami in Florida State.

1691
01:17:23,560 --> 01:17:25,240
Speaker 3: So I Miami, but not Florida State.

1692
01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:27,600
Speaker 2: So, but I don't think that the problem is the

1693
01:17:27,680 --> 01:17:30,840
Speaker 2: league's been around too long and those weren't programs of

1694
01:17:31,000 --> 01:17:33,759
Speaker 2: consequence in the fifties and sixties.

1695
01:17:33,960 --> 01:17:37,799
Speaker 8: Miami is twelfth, yeah, okay, and FSU is nowhere Florida

1696
01:17:37,840 --> 01:17:39,000
Speaker 8: State not in the top twenty.

1697
01:17:39,200 --> 01:17:41,840
Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, all right, all right, so you need one

1698
01:17:42,479 --> 01:17:50,120
Speaker 3: I wrote down Auburn. Auburn is nineteenth, okay, LSU Clemson.

1699
01:17:50,920 --> 01:17:52,280
Speaker 2: I don't think Clemson would have enough.

1700
01:17:52,640 --> 01:17:55,760
Speaker 8: LSU maybe LSU number seven LS All right, I got

1701
01:17:55,800 --> 01:18:00,800
Speaker 8: that Clemson nothing Clemson, No, I don't see them.

1702
01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:02,559
Speaker 3: Okay, so then we're missing one.

1703
01:18:02,720 --> 01:18:05,080
Speaker 2: A miss, we're missing one. It's got to be a U.

1704
01:18:05,240 --> 01:18:09,919
Speaker 2: It's got to be a Southern. I don't think it's UCLA.

1705
01:18:10,000 --> 01:18:13,680
Speaker 2: Would be who am I miss? Who are missing in

1706
01:18:13,720 --> 01:18:15,360
Speaker 2: the South? Florida or Tennessee?

1707
01:18:15,760 --> 01:18:21,439
Speaker 7: Tennessee Tennessee is eleventh Florida, Florida?

1708
01:18:21,560 --> 01:18:22,959
Speaker 6: Is it? They are eighth skators.

1709
01:18:23,240 --> 01:18:25,000
Speaker 8: So that's the top ten with a tie at five.

1710
01:18:25,360 --> 01:18:29,840
Speaker 8: The actual the eleventh team was Nebraska. They're right there.

1711
01:18:30,120 --> 01:18:34,519
Speaker 2: Yeah as well. So the only one I didn't have,

1712
01:18:35,160 --> 01:18:36,800
Speaker 2: I didn't have you f I didn't know that Florida?

1713
01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:40,240
Speaker 2: Yeah did they? What I think would be really interesting

1714
01:18:40,320 --> 01:18:43,479
Speaker 2: on this so that Bill Connolly ESPN put together. You know,

1715
01:18:43,520 --> 01:18:46,040
Speaker 2: he has an sp plus thing where her ranks like

1716
01:18:46,439 --> 01:18:49,599
Speaker 2: quality of your team every year, and so he did

1717
01:18:49,640 --> 01:18:52,760
Speaker 2: this going back to World War two, and it is

1718
01:18:53,040 --> 01:18:55,320
Speaker 2: all of the teams that we are just mentioning here,

1719
01:18:55,520 --> 01:18:57,880
Speaker 2: like it's all the same teams. And basically the one

1720
01:18:57,920 --> 01:18:59,640
Speaker 2: that said the best program since World War Two is

1721
01:18:59,640 --> 01:19:03,000
Speaker 2: oklah Homa number two was Alabama. Number three was Ohio State.

1722
01:19:03,320 --> 01:19:07,080
Speaker 2: USC was actually not in the top ten. But if

1723
01:19:07,160 --> 01:19:10,200
Speaker 2: you change the war as a metric point to Vietnam,

1724
01:19:11,160 --> 01:19:15,240
Speaker 2: well then it is. Then USC's in because basically what

1725
01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:17,200
Speaker 2: happens the forties in the fifties, and that's on Notre

1726
01:19:17,240 --> 01:19:20,840
Speaker 2: Dame's number one on this because in those days they

1727
01:19:21,080 --> 01:19:25,479
Speaker 2: poured guys into football, you know, forties, fifty sixty seventies,

1728
01:19:25,520 --> 01:19:29,280
Speaker 2: that that's their run. But from are like I think

1729
01:19:29,320 --> 01:19:31,479
Speaker 2: about my kid's lifetime, Notre Dame has never really been

1730
01:19:31,520 --> 01:19:34,200
Speaker 2: a serious program. They played for national title, but they

1731
01:19:34,240 --> 01:19:37,240
Speaker 2: get drilled. Do they make a playfet drilled? Sure, but

1732
01:19:37,360 --> 01:19:39,240
Speaker 2: not as many as like Miami and Florida State have

1733
01:19:39,320 --> 01:19:42,040
Speaker 2: in the last twenty five years. Not close since the

1734
01:19:42,120 --> 01:19:42,799
Speaker 2: year two thousand.

1735
01:19:42,960 --> 01:19:46,200
Speaker 8: So Notre Dame is only in first place by two picks.

1736
01:19:46,439 --> 01:19:49,439
Speaker 8: They're ahead of USC by two so that could change

1737
01:19:49,479 --> 01:19:50,519
Speaker 8: within the next couple years.

1738
01:19:50,560 --> 01:19:51,760
Speaker 2: What's their lead on Ohio State?

1739
01:19:51,920 --> 01:19:54,240
Speaker 8: So, Ohio State has four hundred and eighty five, Notre

1740
01:19:54,320 --> 01:19:56,000
Speaker 8: Dame has five hundred and twenty five, so they got

1741
01:19:56,080 --> 01:19:57,040
Speaker 8: him along with quite a bit.

1742
01:19:57,120 --> 01:20:00,639
Speaker 2: Still, Okay, the problem is is right now now USC

1743
01:20:00,880 --> 01:20:04,200
Speaker 2: and Notre Dame are pretty similar. Yeah, as programs, So

1744
01:20:04,320 --> 01:20:04,880
Speaker 2: I don't know that.

1745
01:20:06,080 --> 01:20:08,640
Speaker 8: It'll be interesting to see throughout the next throughout the

1746
01:20:08,680 --> 01:20:10,240
Speaker 8: weekend if this list changes.

1747
01:20:10,720 --> 01:20:12,800
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. The other thing, you know what else is

1748
01:20:12,800 --> 01:20:16,320
Speaker 2: pretty interesting. Give me that one through ten again.

1749
01:20:17,600 --> 01:20:22,439
Speaker 8: Notre Dame, USC, Ohio State, Oklahoma, Michigan and Alabama, Tide,

1750
01:20:22,960 --> 01:20:25,439
Speaker 8: then Penn State, LSU, Florida, Georgia.

1751
01:20:25,640 --> 01:20:29,439
Speaker 2: Okay, so here's what's amazing. All of those programs are

1752
01:20:29,520 --> 01:20:35,760
Speaker 2: in great shape right now, every one of them. They're

1753
01:20:35,800 --> 01:20:38,720
Speaker 2: all playoff teams in the College Football Playoff next year

1754
01:20:39,160 --> 01:20:42,160
Speaker 2: or we'll be vying for it except for Florida. Florida's

1755
01:20:42,200 --> 01:20:45,320
Speaker 2: down State. Yeah they should be. I mean they went

1756
01:20:45,560 --> 01:20:49,000
Speaker 2: to last year. Yeah, No, it's all it's all there.

1757
01:20:50,080 --> 01:20:51,920
Speaker 2: That's what's crazy about college football. Like the teams that

1758
01:20:51,920 --> 01:20:54,439
Speaker 2: were great then are the great mostly great now. It's

1759
01:20:54,520 --> 01:20:57,840
Speaker 2: really hard to crack that code. That's fun. Good job

1760
01:20:57,840 --> 01:20:59,760
Speaker 2: at you guys. All right, we get your grip fact

1761
01:20:59,840 --> 01:21:02,640
Speaker 2: of the day. In addition to that, Jake Trotter with

1762
01:21:03,160 --> 01:21:05,280
Speaker 2: who the Browns could be looking at early in this

1763
01:21:05,479 --> 01:21:08,800
Speaker 2: year's draft and what his specific position of need could be.

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01:21:08,880 --> 01:21:10,840
Speaker 2: We'll get to a coming up next. Cleveland Browns Daily,

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Speaker 2: a fifty ESPN Cleveland.

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01:21:24,360 --> 01:21:27,519
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily brought to you by Bally bed Now

1767
01:21:27,680 --> 01:21:30,879
Speaker 1: Live in Ohio on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland.

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01:21:39,680 --> 01:21:41,720
Speaker 2: All Right, we'll get to Jake and his thoughts on

1769
01:21:42,280 --> 01:21:44,920
Speaker 2: what the Browns could do in the draft before we do.

1770
01:21:45,120 --> 01:21:46,960
Speaker 2: Time for the Griff Fact of the Day.

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01:21:47,280 --> 01:21:49,200
Speaker 3: Fact of the day, Fact of the day, Fact of

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01:21:49,240 --> 01:21:51,120
Speaker 3: the Day. It's Dug Griff Fact of the Day.

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01:21:53,880 --> 01:21:57,719
Speaker 8: Since the common Draft era, which started in nineteen sixty seven,

1774
01:21:57,760 --> 01:22:00,920
Speaker 8: we have only seen two years running back has not

1775
01:22:01,120 --> 01:22:03,800
Speaker 8: gone in the first round, and if this draft goes

1776
01:22:03,840 --> 01:22:06,360
Speaker 8: the way most experts expect, this will be the third

1777
01:22:06,439 --> 01:22:08,120
Speaker 8: year which we have not seen a running back go

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01:22:08,200 --> 01:22:11,200
Speaker 8: in the first round since nineteen sixty seven. So it's

1779
01:22:11,240 --> 01:22:14,080
Speaker 8: pretty interesting, like as you get more recent into the

1780
01:22:14,240 --> 01:22:16,719
Speaker 8: NFL that running backs are not going anymore.

1781
01:22:17,439 --> 01:22:19,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's a function of the change of the

1782
01:22:19,760 --> 01:22:22,960
Speaker 2: way the game is played primarily. But I do think,

1783
01:22:23,000 --> 01:22:25,600
Speaker 2: as we saw last year with Bijon, if you have

1784
01:22:25,680 --> 01:22:28,280
Speaker 2: a weapon that can be used in the run end

1785
01:22:28,320 --> 01:22:31,160
Speaker 2: pass game, and you're elite, then you can be a

1786
01:22:31,200 --> 01:22:33,080
Speaker 2: first round pick. That's kind of it.

1787
01:22:34,120 --> 01:22:36,679
Speaker 3: But what a pick like that fails to take into

1788
01:22:36,720 --> 01:22:40,479
Speaker 3: account is the opportunity cost. And this is why the

1789
01:22:40,520 --> 01:22:42,920
Speaker 3: Falcons weren't a serious organization. Here's the thing. You draft

1790
01:22:42,920 --> 01:22:48,400
Speaker 3: me Jean Robinson eighth overall, you are immediately making him

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01:22:48,439 --> 01:22:52,559
Speaker 3: a top five ish paid running back in the NFL,

1792
01:22:53,920 --> 01:22:56,320
Speaker 3: Whereas if you were to draft a quarterback or you

1793
01:22:56,400 --> 01:22:59,439
Speaker 3: were to draft a wide receiver, they are not even

1794
01:22:59,479 --> 01:23:03,600
Speaker 3: in the top twenty thirty at the position, right, and

1795
01:23:03,720 --> 01:23:09,120
Speaker 3: so you're actually the money saved relative to the position

1796
01:23:09,360 --> 01:23:12,880
Speaker 3: is massive. So drafting a running back it really doesn't

1797
01:23:12,880 --> 01:23:14,479
Speaker 3: make a whole lot of sense. And you heard Andrew

1798
01:23:14,520 --> 01:23:16,240
Speaker 3: Berry earlier in his comments to me say, you know,

1799
01:23:16,280 --> 01:23:18,040
Speaker 3: he thinks of the running back position as much more

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01:23:18,080 --> 01:23:20,880
Speaker 3: of a committee position. We've been spoiled by Nick Chubb.

1801
01:23:20,960 --> 01:23:24,080
Speaker 3: But that's the reality of it. And for a much

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01:23:24,160 --> 01:23:26,479
Speaker 3: smaller price tag, you can put together a pretty good room.

1803
01:23:26,920 --> 01:23:28,800
Speaker 3: I think you look at our room now this year,

1804
01:23:28,880 --> 01:23:30,800
Speaker 3: and let's say that we don't know what Nick Chub's

1805
01:23:30,800 --> 01:23:34,080
Speaker 3: status is going to be. You've got Jerome Ford, You've

1806
01:23:34,120 --> 01:23:37,200
Speaker 3: got Pierre Strong, You've got Nahem Heines, and then you

1807
01:23:37,240 --> 01:23:40,800
Speaker 3: have Deontay Foreman. And Deonte Foreman can be that hammer

1808
01:23:40,880 --> 01:23:42,960
Speaker 3: that Kareem Hunt was with probably a little more juice

1809
01:23:42,960 --> 01:23:46,400
Speaker 3: at this point in their respective careers. Hines is a

1810
01:23:46,560 --> 01:23:49,360
Speaker 3: very good catch out of the backfield. Ford had a

1811
01:23:49,520 --> 01:23:52,160
Speaker 3: very nice sophomore season, and I think Pierre Strong's got

1812
01:23:52,200 --> 01:23:54,600
Speaker 3: a lot of juice and special talent. So like with

1813
01:23:54,880 --> 01:23:57,960
Speaker 3: that group, you're gonna get good production. I mean last year,

1814
01:23:57,960 --> 01:23:59,400
Speaker 3: I think we did it. It was like two thousand

1815
01:23:59,439 --> 01:24:02,920
Speaker 3: total yards and twenty touchdowns in the running back room.

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01:24:04,439 --> 01:24:08,120
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, they are. You're viewing it more as a

1817
01:24:08,320 --> 01:24:12,719
Speaker 2: room versus a individual, and that's the thing that's happened.

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01:24:12,920 --> 01:24:12,960
Speaker 5: No.

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01:24:13,080 --> 01:24:15,560
Speaker 2: I was with you on Atlanta taking Beijon. I was,

1820
01:24:15,800 --> 01:24:18,160
Speaker 2: I remember, in fact, saying like I could understand it

1821
01:24:18,200 --> 01:24:20,240
Speaker 2: if you were Philly and you felt like you were

1822
01:24:20,280 --> 01:24:24,320
Speaker 2: a player away, one dynamic player away, an example, and

1823
01:24:24,600 --> 01:24:26,120
Speaker 2: you're not having to pay the quarterback. At the time,

1824
01:24:26,120 --> 01:24:27,759
Speaker 2: I don't think they had done the Jalen hurt Steel

1825
01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:30,080
Speaker 2: yet ye, but even the forty nine ers with what

1826
01:24:30,160 --> 01:24:32,120
Speaker 2: they did with Christian McCaffrey, you can do that when

1827
01:24:32,120 --> 01:24:34,439
Speaker 2: you're not paying the quarterback and you feel like McCaffrey's

1828
01:24:34,439 --> 01:24:36,040
Speaker 2: a difference between you playing in a Super Bowl or

1829
01:24:36,120 --> 01:24:39,720
Speaker 2: not and the versatility of McCaffrey allows for that. But

1830
01:24:40,600 --> 01:24:42,800
Speaker 2: like a hammer, by the way, there aren't hammer running

1831
01:24:42,840 --> 01:24:45,240
Speaker 2: backs in the NFL. I mean, look at what Ohio

1832
01:24:45,320 --> 01:24:47,439
Speaker 2: State's doing. They went and got quinch On Judkins, who's

1833
01:24:47,479 --> 01:24:49,559
Speaker 2: led the SEC in rushing the last two years. He's

1834
01:24:49,600 --> 01:24:52,960
Speaker 2: playing alongside Travon Henderson Trevan Henderson, a five star running

1835
01:24:54,080 --> 01:24:57,200
Speaker 2: out of high school. So they have two blue chip

1836
01:24:57,360 --> 01:24:59,559
Speaker 2: running backs at Ohio State, both of what you are

1837
01:24:59,560 --> 01:25:01,479
Speaker 2: going to the DRE next year, second rounders, both of

1838
01:25:01,520 --> 01:25:04,720
Speaker 2: which can play. So that's just kind of the way.

1839
01:25:04,840 --> 01:25:07,240
Speaker 2: What I'm more interested in is if there is something

1840
01:25:07,320 --> 01:25:11,000
Speaker 2: that happens at receiver that changes that, if there are

1841
01:25:11,160 --> 01:25:14,240
Speaker 2: just such a glut of receivers that you're like, boy,

1842
01:25:14,600 --> 01:25:16,640
Speaker 2: we don't need if some of what's happened at the

1843
01:25:16,720 --> 01:25:20,280
Speaker 2: quarterback position or the running back position transfers over to receivers.

1844
01:25:20,280 --> 01:25:23,000
Speaker 2: There's such a glut of receivers coming in every year, So.

1845
01:25:23,080 --> 01:25:26,519
Speaker 3: The question will be are you willing to try to

1846
01:25:26,640 --> 01:25:29,519
Speaker 3: do what Minnesota did with Diggs and Justin Jefferson And

1847
01:25:29,960 --> 01:25:33,519
Speaker 3: how how repeatable is that? I don't know that, yeah,

1848
01:25:33,800 --> 01:25:37,040
Speaker 3: and or how bad you have to be to actually

1849
01:25:37,080 --> 01:25:39,120
Speaker 3: get a shot at one of these difference making receivers,

1850
01:25:39,160 --> 01:25:42,120
Speaker 3: because at some point then teams are gonna want if

1851
01:25:42,160 --> 01:25:45,000
Speaker 3: there is a depressed market, you're gonna want these guys

1852
01:25:45,040 --> 01:25:46,640
Speaker 3: on their second contracts that you know are good in

1853
01:25:46,680 --> 01:25:47,120
Speaker 3: the NFL.

1854
01:25:47,479 --> 01:25:51,559
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, so yeah, it's just the position where it's

1855
01:25:51,640 --> 01:25:55,360
Speaker 2: just been flooded in recent years of very very capable guys.

1856
01:25:56,040 --> 01:25:58,960
Speaker 2: Jake Trotter has us taking a wide receiver early in

1857
01:25:59,080 --> 01:26:04,839
Speaker 2: this year's draft. Your thoughts, I certainly think it's possible.

1858
01:26:04,920 --> 01:26:06,920
Speaker 3: You know, you talk with with AB and you heard

1859
01:26:07,000 --> 01:26:09,200
Speaker 3: my talk with him. It's a weapons league. He's about

1860
01:26:09,200 --> 01:26:12,400
Speaker 3: getting weapons. He's looking for very particular skill sets and

1861
01:26:12,600 --> 01:26:14,400
Speaker 3: unique skill sets in our room. And I think that

1862
01:26:14,479 --> 01:26:18,519
Speaker 3: there is got to be some type of what I

1863
01:26:18,560 --> 01:26:23,280
Speaker 3: would call succession planning in mind right for what the

1864
01:26:23,360 --> 01:26:27,000
Speaker 3: Browns may or may not do at that position because

1865
01:26:27,520 --> 01:26:32,479
Speaker 3: Amari Cooper. You just don't know how long Amari Cooper

1866
01:26:32,800 --> 01:26:35,080
Speaker 3: you have with the Browns at this point in his career.

1867
01:26:35,160 --> 01:26:37,080
Speaker 3: I mean, he's he was drafted what in the twenty

1868
01:26:37,400 --> 01:26:40,880
Speaker 3: fifteen draft, so he's approaching ten years in the league.

1869
01:26:42,160 --> 01:26:46,320
Speaker 3: You just don't know if that. If you don't, you

1870
01:26:46,439 --> 01:26:49,519
Speaker 3: might have to think about going for a receiver. And

1871
01:26:49,680 --> 01:26:52,840
Speaker 3: so you know, Troy Franklin's the name that keeps showing

1872
01:26:52,880 --> 01:26:55,960
Speaker 3: up because he can fly and make vertical catches. Roman

1873
01:26:56,000 --> 01:27:01,200
Speaker 3: Wilson is a guy that you like a lot. It

1874
01:27:01,280 --> 01:27:03,680
Speaker 3: feels like the receiver is maybe where they could go.

1875
01:27:03,760 --> 01:27:06,599
Speaker 3: And it goes back to this is our most premium

1876
01:27:06,720 --> 01:27:09,960
Speaker 3: draft asset. So that's the line, where are you gonna

1877
01:27:10,080 --> 01:27:11,519
Speaker 3: what are you going to use that on? Here are

1878
01:27:11,600 --> 01:27:15,200
Speaker 3: my three guesses that premium asset is going to be

1879
01:27:15,320 --> 01:27:17,720
Speaker 3: used on either a wide receiver, it's going to be

1880
01:27:17,840 --> 01:27:20,680
Speaker 3: used on an offensive tackle, or it's gonna use on

1881
01:27:20,720 --> 01:27:22,799
Speaker 3: a pass rushing defensive tackle.

1882
01:27:24,000 --> 01:27:26,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's it, and that's it. Yeah.

1883
01:27:26,439 --> 01:27:28,560
Speaker 3: No, that you will likely draft a running back. We

1884
01:27:28,640 --> 01:27:32,680
Speaker 3: will likely draft a linebacker. You're just not at fifty four.

1885
01:27:32,760 --> 01:27:34,000
Speaker 3: That's not happening in the second round.

1886
01:27:34,760 --> 01:27:38,320
Speaker 2: No, No, So that's that's just where the league is.

1887
01:27:38,560 --> 01:27:40,759
Speaker 2: That's where the league is headed in their premium positions.

1888
01:27:40,800 --> 01:27:43,840
Speaker 2: In those premium positions, what was the last line he said?

1889
01:27:44,200 --> 01:27:46,280
Speaker 2: Ab said to you, maximizing, So.

1890
01:27:46,320 --> 01:27:47,920
Speaker 3: What would make a successful draft means.

1891
01:27:48,120 --> 01:27:51,640
Speaker 2: Maximizing massim is maximizing our resources. Ye, so maximizing the

1892
01:27:52,160 --> 01:27:54,599
Speaker 2: resources is an off ball linebacker or running back.

1893
01:27:54,520 --> 01:27:55,040
Speaker 6: At fifty four.

1894
01:27:55,600 --> 01:27:57,120
Speaker 2: It's just not that's not what it is. All right,

1895
01:27:57,200 --> 01:27:58,840
Speaker 2: good job to you. Good job at a jake, Good

1896
01:27:58,920 --> 01:28:00,920
Speaker 2: job at the grip stat of the day. Well done.

1897
01:28:01,320 --> 01:28:02,880
Speaker 2: So much more to come, plea. The Bruns Daily at

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01:28:02,880 --> 01:28:03,679
Speaker 2: fifty ESPN.

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01:28:03,479 --> 01:28:11,800
Speaker 1: Cleveland, Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to you by Balley bed

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01:28:19,760 --> 01:28:22,719
Speaker 2: All right, So boots on the ground in the Houston

1902
01:28:22,800 --> 01:28:24,040
Speaker 2: area on the new uniform.

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01:28:24,160 --> 01:28:24,360
Speaker 5: YEP.

1904
01:28:25,560 --> 01:28:29,519
Speaker 2: The way that I understand it is that anything that

1905
01:28:29,680 --> 01:28:36,840
Speaker 2: even resembles an oiler look or amalgamation was stopped by

1906
01:28:36,880 --> 01:28:38,960
Speaker 2: the ownership of the of the Tennessee Time number one.

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01:28:39,000 --> 01:28:41,120
Speaker 3: That's BS number two. Goodell needs to intervene, and the

1908
01:28:41,160 --> 01:28:43,479
Speaker 3: rest of the owners need to intervene. And then number three.

1909
01:28:43,760 --> 01:28:46,160
Speaker 3: Then they just sort of scrapped the h town concept

1910
01:28:46,760 --> 01:28:49,599
Speaker 3: and just gone yes, the white blue and the yes yes.

1911
01:28:50,000 --> 01:28:52,160
Speaker 3: I don't know, prob or make a white version of

1912
01:28:52,240 --> 01:28:56,080
Speaker 3: your own uniform, your own helmets, your current whatever. Just

1913
01:28:56,120 --> 01:28:56,880
Speaker 3: make a white helmet.

1914
01:28:58,520 --> 01:29:01,880
Speaker 2: You can't own white helmets in on a white helmet. No, No,

1915
01:29:03,080 --> 01:29:03,360
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1916
01:29:03,400 --> 01:29:04,960
Speaker 3: Maybe I think they could have gotten away with it.

1917
01:29:05,000 --> 01:29:06,920
Speaker 2: It's crazy though, like the amount of power that the.

1918
01:29:07,160 --> 01:29:11,280
Speaker 3: Logo, the blue face mask, white uniform, the number only

1919
01:29:11,560 --> 01:29:12,599
Speaker 3: being that color blue.

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01:29:12,880 --> 01:29:16,120
Speaker 2: So it doesn't seem like it. It seems like anything that, even.

1921
01:29:17,560 --> 01:29:18,360
Speaker 4: Which is wild.

1922
01:29:18,400 --> 01:29:20,280
Speaker 2: It shouldn't be allowed, though, No, it should not be

1923
01:29:20,360 --> 01:29:23,400
Speaker 2: allowed that you own a color palette.

1924
01:29:23,439 --> 01:29:23,759
Speaker 4: Correct.

1925
01:29:24,000 --> 01:29:28,720
Speaker 2: It's nuts, it's all right, No, it's not. It's not fair.

1926
01:29:30,040 --> 01:29:33,040
Speaker 2: Come on now, that's not fair. Come on now. Let

1927
01:29:33,080 --> 01:29:35,679
Speaker 2: them wear those dirty let them wear those oilers, y'all

1928
01:29:35,800 --> 01:29:40,160
Speaker 2: just dirty. They're sitting on a golden goose. Next level

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Speaker 2: is next. Thanks for listening to Cleveland Rod's Daily At

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