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Speaker 1: It's awkward.

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Speaker 2: It's Tuesday. It's awkward Tuesday phone call.

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Speaker 1: Can you fall in love with someone without ever actually

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Speaker 1: meeting them? I don't know, I don't know. You look

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Speaker 1: at our text board. The answer is a resounding yes. Really,

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Speaker 1: Jose's received fourteen love professions this week alone, and only

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Speaker 1: six of them were from local prisons. So, hey, my

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Speaker 1: ratio is getting better. It's pretty good. Anything is possible

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Speaker 1: than everybody. The thing is, I don't know if it's

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Speaker 1: really that common out in the regular day to day world,

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Speaker 1: but it's the reason one of our listeners has reached

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Speaker 1: out to us for help. Here, she says she is

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Speaker 1: falling for someone that she's never seen and never actually

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Speaker 1: met before, and now she needs our help. Her name

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Speaker 1: is Samantha. Don't tell me you're in love with Jose too,

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Speaker 1: because you're gonna have to get into a long one

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Speaker 1: mind fight off some prisoners.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, it's not Jose. Okay, this is like

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Speaker 2: the start of every Catfish episode.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, tell us about your situation. We don't. I

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Speaker 1: don't know anything about this. So how did you fall

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Speaker 1: in love with someone you've never met?

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Speaker 2: Okay, so a few years ago I read this story online,

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Speaker 2: and it was so incredibly moving that I decided that

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Speaker 2: I wanted to be a living organ donor.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's cool.

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Speaker 4: Oh. I always am just amazed at those people. I

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Speaker 4: she'd been on dialysis for literally twenty years.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, So you don't mean just like I checked

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Speaker 1: the box on my license to be an organ donor.

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Speaker 3: You mean no living.

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Speaker 2: No living, like you go in and have surgery.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, oh my god.

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Speaker 2: But like you'll find people wait for years and then

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Speaker 2: waiting for somebody to have an accident or whatever. And

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Speaker 2: I'm like, if I can do something now, I really

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, it's like a crazy sacrifice.

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Speaker 1: I know you're one of those like walking angels on

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Speaker 3: Got a foot or like a finger if someone wants

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Speaker 3: to No, that's not they don't. I don't think anybody

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Speaker 3: wants a part of.

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Speaker 1: You, especially we know where those fingers have change. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So what happened? So you agreed to sign up to

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Speaker 1: become a living donor?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Did that actually go through?

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Speaker 5: It?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely did? So I donated part of my liver.

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Speaker 4: Oh wow, Oh that's crazy yeah, that can be so

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Speaker 4: like life changing for I mean, literally saving someone yea.

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Speaker 2: And yeah am I and my local newspaper actually did

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Speaker 2: a story about it.

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Speaker 3: Oh cool.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's always good to read about good people

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Speaker 1: So how does this organ donation turn into a love story?

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Speaker 2: Okay? Well, so then a few weeks after I did

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Speaker 2: it and the story came out, everything went really well.

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Speaker 2: It was successful. I got a message from the person

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Speaker 2: that I donated my liver to and it was a guy.

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Speaker 1: Oh please, was it a happy message or.

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Speaker 2: Oh no, it was. It was super nice and he

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Speaker 2: asked if he could thank me at least over the phone.

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Speaker 1: That's awesome.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know if you see where this is going,

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Speaker 2: but I said of course, And you know, we talked

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Speaker 3: Did you share a liver? Yeah, there's a deep, deep connection.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god.

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Speaker 3: So wait, did you know like what about his life?

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Speaker 3: Like was he married? Was he single?

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Speaker 6: Like?

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Speaker 2: I know he's single. I know he's single, and we've

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Speaker 2: really bizarre, but I think there's something there, and I've

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Speaker 2: been hinting and hinting and he's not taking the next step. Yes,

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Speaker 1: So you said you've hinted to him that you're interested romantically.

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Speaker 1: Can you tell us, like, in general, how did that

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Speaker 2: Okay? So I'm really really bad at that. I have

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Speaker 2: always let guys take the lead. So what I consider

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Speaker 2: a strong hint is asking like hobbies, like to try

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Speaker 1: I don't know if asking about his interest in croquet

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Speaker 3: This guy is clueless.

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Speaker 2: I need your help.

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Speaker 1: So you've developed feelings for the guy that you donated

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Speaker 1: part of your liver too, and now you're asking our

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Speaker 1: him on a date.

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Speaker 2: Yes, tell him. I was like, let him know I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, have you seen a picture of him?

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Speaker 2: I don't have any idea what he looks like. I'm

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Speaker 1: You guys at least face. Yeah, I mean this, it

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Speaker 1: sounds like a really cool story if we can make

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Speaker 1: this work out. But I just I'm just gonna play

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Speaker 1: devil's advocate for a second. Okay, Jack, Samantha, how would

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Speaker 1: you feel if we call him and he rejects you,

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Speaker 1: even after you've given like a part of your organ

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Speaker 1: to help save his life. Feels like, do you feel

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Speaker 2: I mean, obviously I'm willing to risk that. I kind

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Speaker 2: of want to know because either then I just move

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Speaker 2: I can to try to see where he's at.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, thank you guys, liver lovers, because.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what that is going to catch on.

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Speaker 3: Well, let's definitely not send you out to drinks.

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Speaker 7: If this works, well, we're going to figure out some

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Speaker 7: advice to give you when we come back and we

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Speaker 7: help you call the man that you donated part of

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Speaker 4: I mean that, just to hear your guys' conversation is

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Speaker 1: To Yeah, we're going to do it with your awkward

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Speaker 8: It's Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: It's awkward Tuesday phone call. Today we coined a brand

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Speaker 1: new dating term, liver lovers, which is actually way more

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Speaker 2: That gross.

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Speaker 3: I think that this is going to be the one

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not sure if it's going to be trending

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Speaker 1: she felt this immediate connection to him, more than just

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Speaker 1: the organs that they share. She felt like a romantic

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Speaker 3: Terrible job hinting that admits.

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Speaker 1: She's not the best at that. So that's why she

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Speaker 1: reached out to us to ask for help to score

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Speaker 1: her liver. Yeah, and wow, I mean this sounds really weird.

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Speaker 1: This is having a jar like it's in his body.

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Speaker 3: This is a good point, Jose.

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Speaker 1: You're just tuning in. We've had to give a lot

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Speaker 1: of advice on this show. This is definitely a first

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Speaker 4: Oh Man, I mean I think that, of course, your

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Speaker 3: This next conversation.

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Speaker 4: You really need to do as best you can separate

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Speaker 4: yourself from the organ donation because I think it's gonna

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so Samantha, can you pretend like the donation

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Speaker 1: didn't happen? You don't even miss that part of me?

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Speaker 6: Know what it means, Samantha, Right, I do, But I

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Speaker 6: also I don't know that's what we have him in

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Speaker 6: comment right, but right now you're trying to move it

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Speaker 6: to find others, like a cute single.

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Speaker 3: Girl, not yeah, like maybe you could.

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Speaker 4: Say something like, oh my god, you know you sound

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Speaker 2: I mean, he does have a very nice voice.

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Speaker 1: Jose What do you think that actually kind of goes

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Speaker 1: what I was gonna say? Bring it up casually, at

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Speaker 8: Hey, don't you feel like we've had like a kind

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Speaker 3: To say flirty thirty?

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Speaker 7: It spells it out because I need spelling out.

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Speaker 3: She thought this saying hobbies was flirty. That's a big

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Speaker 1: But it made something in his head to go.

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Speaker 3: Or for him to say no.

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Speaker 1: A lot of men need that, like blaring red light

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Speaker 1: in their face that says I like you. So what

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Speaker 2: Are?

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Speaker 1: Are you ready here, Samantha to make this call cute?

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Speaker 2: As ready as I'm ever going to be. I like that.

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Speaker 3: This is harder than the actual organ.

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Speaker 1: Unlike second dates. It's not like he's avoiding or ignoring you. Here,

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Speaker 1: you're talking to him regularly. He's just not reading the signals.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 1: What if he likes her and he's like, she calls

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Speaker 1: me so much? Would I ever ask her out?

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Speaker 2: Though?

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Speaker 1: Well, hopefully our advice helps. Maybe he actually feels the

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Speaker 1: same way. Let's find out. I'm dialing his number right now.

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Speaker 1: Good luck?

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Speaker 2: Okay, thank you?

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Speaker 8: Here we go.

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Speaker 2: Hello, Hey, Peter, is he Samantha?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: What's up?

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Speaker 5: Samantha?

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Speaker 2: Just calling to see how you're how you're doing.

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Speaker 5: How's the whole liver thing going along, still going, still

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Speaker 5: going great.

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Speaker 8: Thanks you.

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Speaker 2: So what have you been up to?

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Speaker 8: Uh? Not so much, like you mean, like since we

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Speaker 8: dogged yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just I was curious. I like to keep in touch. Okay,

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Speaker 2: so I have a compassion. I think that you have

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Speaker 2: such a nice voice. I really like talking to you.

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Speaker 8: Oh well, well thanks. I mean you want me to

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Speaker 8: donate my voice to you?

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Speaker 2: If no, I don't want to make this about any

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Speaker 2: kind of donation. So I know we live in two

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Speaker 2: different towns. But what do you think about maybe meeting

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Speaker 2: up in person? I mean, would that be totally crazy?

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Speaker 8: Oh well, I mean what do you mean, like donor

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Speaker 8: meet up?

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Speaker 5: Because you know I appreciate you.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe like dinner or if we could

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Speaker 2: then go dancing, or.

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Speaker 8: You and not doing because I really.

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Speaker 2: Really I like talking to you, and I really feel

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Speaker 2: the whole shared organ thing.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Well, you know, I can't thank you enough. So you

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Speaker 5: literally saved my life. But there's one thing you should

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Speaker 8: I ended up.

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Speaker 5: I did get involved with another woman who donated our intestine.

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Speaker 2: To me, like, oh my gosh.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and I just honestly it didn't work out very well.

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Speaker 5: So that's I'm just a little apprehensive.

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Speaker 1: Wow what oh god.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, when it comes to organs, what is going on?

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Speaker 1: I'm wondering the same thing.

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Speaker 3: That's a crazy story.

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Speaker 8: Peter, Peter, what who is this?

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Speaker 1: You were were a radio show called Brook and Jeffrey

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Speaker 1: in the Morning. We've been on this call the whole time.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, Samantha, You're You're probably speechless, aren't you.

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Speaker 2: I am. I'm I'm sitting here with my mouth just

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Speaker 2: gaping open. So let me get this straight. You dated

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Speaker 1: Weird.

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Speaker 5: No, I know that, Like there's a lot of people

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Speaker 5: that don't have multiple transplants. That's not like I tried

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Speaker 5: for that to happen, but I felt in a way

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Speaker 5: don't get me wrong, because I am grateful for from

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but nobody. You can't hold that over somebody's head.

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Speaker 1: Well, you donated your head to them. I mean, who

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Speaker 5: Guy?

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Speaker 3: My god, Peter, that's wild. So it didn't turn out

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Speaker 3: with her? Did you see this coming from Samantha.

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Speaker 8: Well we've talked a lot lately, and that's cool, but

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Speaker 8: I didn't really understand until today.

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Speaker 1: This was a pretty good making it up in your head.

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Speaker 1: You're like, okay, man, not every girl, but so you

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Speaker 1: needed to hear that, Samantha. Does hearing that change your

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Speaker 2: No? I mean I would really still like to see

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Speaker 2: if there's something there, And I promise I will never

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Speaker 3: I promise you don't.

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Speaker 1: Was the first thing out of her mouth. She was nervous.

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Speaker 1: She was nervous.

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Speaker 3: It's our only connection right now.

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Speaker 4: I mean, here's the thing, Peter didn't work out with

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Speaker 4: the first girl. Now you know what red flags you

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Speaker 5: Like, okay, guys, I understand, I'm not trying to sound

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Speaker 1: No, you don't sound like you sound like the casanova

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Speaker 1: of the hospital trying to live honestly in their organs.

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Speaker 3: You do have a really hot voice.

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Speaker 1: Okay, would like to make a donation to you next.

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Speaker 4: I mean, nobody wants my liver.

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Speaker 1: Well, the whole goal this entire phone call was to

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Speaker 3: Date to see if there's a romantic connection.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just to see no pressure.

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Speaker 8: Look, Samantha, I know that you're a wonderful person because

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Speaker 8: you gave me part of your liver to saved my life.

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Speaker 8: I can I can never thank you up for that,

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Speaker 8: and it's nothing. Please don't don't take it personally. If

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Speaker 8: we can still be friends, I just I just don't

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Speaker 8: know if that's something that I just don't know.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Samantha has boundaries.

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Speaker 1: Ask for your liver back.

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Speaker 7: Now, I got a warranty on that thing.

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Speaker 3: We're joking.

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Speaker 2: We're joking, you know, I know, but I still feel

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Speaker 2: like you don't even want to meet me in person

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Speaker 8: Look. I'm actually fine with that. I just like gotta

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Speaker 8: be careful.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, cool man, that's totally up to you. Just

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Speaker 1: keep us updated on your situation, your friendship and let

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Speaker 1: it know how it goes okay, all.

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Speaker 2: Right, thanks for your help.

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Speaker 1: All right, guys, Yeah, and Peter expect to call from

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Speaker 1: Samantha tomorrow and every day for the next ten days.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, good luck, Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning.