1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: This investigation of the president was corrupt. The FBI and 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: the Department of Justice were politicized and weaponized. And in 3 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:11,960 Speaker 1: my opinion, there are only two possibilities that you were 4 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:16,279 Speaker 1: deliberately corrupt or woefully incompetent, and I don't believe you 5 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:23,280 Speaker 1: were incompetent. This has done severe damage to the professionals 6 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: and the honorable men and women at the FBI because 7 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 1: law enforcement should not be used as a political weapon, 8 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: and that is the legacy you have left. This might 9 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 1: be my favorite aspect of the show. I mean, this 10 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:45,160 Speaker 1: is what we've been seeing since impeachment, all the way 11 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:48,559 Speaker 1: back what was it eight nine months ago? Now is 12 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 1: we get the first look and the first talk with 13 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: Senator Cruz after all of these extraordinarily consequential events. Senator, 14 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: you have just come from a hearing with former FBI 15 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 1: Director James Comey. James Comy is not just a controversial figure, 16 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 1: but he has, in your words, either incompetent or worse. 17 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: Let's if you wouldn't mind take us through the hearing. Well, yeah, 18 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 1: so he was testifying about his leadership at the FBI 19 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: and his role in the investigation of President Trump of 20 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 1: his campaign of Michael Flynn of Carter Page, and I 21 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 1: got to say, you know, you know, Comy at this 22 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: point just blames everything on Oh, mistakes were made, the 23 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 1: passive voice was used, nobody as an actor. It just 24 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 1: just happened to happen. Oh up, some things were sloppy. 25 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: And I gotta say I thought too many Republican senators 26 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: were willing to credit him with Oh, you just didn't 27 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: know what was going on, Bologny. Comey knew exactly what 28 00:01:55,240 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 1: was going on. Comy, I believe bears very direct responsibility 29 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: for politicizing the FBI, for politicizing dj and Obama and 30 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:16,239 Speaker 1: Biden used Komy and used Brennan to turn dj CIA, 31 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:19,799 Speaker 1: FBI and the political weapons to go after Trump. And 32 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: I think Komy was complicit the hearing today which I 33 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: just came from. I spent most of the morning over 34 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 1: at the hearing. He's very good at dodging and weaving. 35 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 1: He's slippery. He doesn't like to answer a direct question. 36 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 1: So you know, he talked about well, anytime, anytime the 37 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:44,640 Speaker 1: FBI is thought of as less than competent or honest, 38 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 1: that's a problem. And I pointed out that in according 39 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: to the Inspector General report, they made seventeen material misstatements 40 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 1: to the Federal Court. And he's like, oh, well, yeah, 41 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: that's competent and honest and and and he said, well 42 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: he was honest at least, and I said, well, no. 43 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 1: One of those was when an FBI lawyer who worked 44 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: for you fraudulently altered a document from the CIA. He 45 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 1: emailed the CIA and said, hey, it's Carter Page a 46 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: source for you because he's talking to the Russians. But 47 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: if he's talking to the Russians on behalf of the CIA, 48 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 1: that's very different than if he's running around with Russian agents. See. 49 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 1: I said, oh, yeah, he's a source for us. And 50 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 1: the FBI lawyer fraudulently altered that email and added the 51 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 1: words is not a source, literally turned it to the 52 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: opposite of what it said. I mean, I mean reversed 53 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: its meaning one hundred and eighty degrees, and they used 54 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 1: that as the basis for a submission to the Federal Court. Comy, 55 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: being slippery as he is, said no, no, no, that's 56 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: not what the Inspector General concluded. And fortunately I had 57 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: the IG report right in front of me, so I 58 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: pulled it over and read the damn quote from the report, 59 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: and he just he had nothing to say on that. 60 00:03:56,400 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: I like this dichotomy that you drew between incomptance and corruption. 61 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: I think even I and I think for so many 62 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: people who are listening, who don't have the time to 63 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: go through all of the aspects of what this means 64 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: for spying on the Trump campaign and the Russian collusion narrative, 65 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 1: and on and on and on, and it's complicated. It's 66 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: hard to figure out. It is hard to figure out. 67 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:22,359 Speaker 1: And we know that bureaucracies are incompetent a lot of 68 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 1: the time. So I think even a lot of us 69 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 1: who are pretty conservative will say, Okay, maybe we'll give 70 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: them the benefit of the devil. What you're pointing to 71 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 1: here is one the language that Komy uses, this passive 72 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: voice which he always uses, is designed to push away 73 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: any sort of guilt, and we can read in the 74 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:45,159 Speaker 1: report that there was flagrant intentional dishonesty. Yeah. A couple 75 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 1: of additional observations. Komy at the hearing today and at 76 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,359 Speaker 1: the press all the time, makes all these dispersions. Like 77 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: he said at the hearing, I think the Russians have 78 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 1: something on Trump. And mind you, he has no basis 79 00:04:57,760 --> 00:04:59,919 Speaker 1: he was leading the FBI. It used to be the 80 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 1: that you actually have something based on evidence rather than 81 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 1: just making making wild accusations. But listen, I know James 82 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:11,159 Speaker 1: Comy not well, but I've dealt with him for a 83 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:15,799 Speaker 1: number of years. I think Comey was deeply, deeply political, 84 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: small p political political in the maneuvering, and I think 85 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: Comey had delusions of grandeur. He worked in the Jed 86 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 1: gro Hoover building, which is the headquarters of the FBI, 87 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 1: and I think he thought he was Jed Groover. I mean, 88 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 1: Hoover famously abused the power of head of the FBI 89 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: and basically blackmailed people, had you know, all sorts of 90 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: incriminating information on lots of players. And I think Comy, look, 91 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 1: Comy played a role in twenty sixteen and torpedoing Hillary 92 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 1: at the end and then an exonerating Hillary and going 93 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 1: back and forth, and I think he was playing politics. 94 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: And then I think he felt guilty about the role 95 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 1: he played in Hillary. And I think he hated Trump 96 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 1: and he was perfectly happy to have the FBI be 97 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: a political weapon. And there needs to be accountability. People 98 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 1: need to go to jail for breaking the law and 99 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: to date, they haven't, and I hope they do. Will 100 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: they be held to account? I mean, I know we're 101 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 1: having hearings at the Senate, we're having the investigation from 102 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: the DOJ into all the mess that happened. Is there 103 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 1: going to be some consequence to all of this or 104 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: are the nefarious players just going to run out the clock? Look, 105 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: I pray they will. I don't know. I think Bill 106 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 1: Barr is doing a terrific job. I think if anyone 107 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 1: can ensure some accountability, it's bar. That being said, it's 108 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: been four years and there hasn't been much of any 109 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 1: And you know, one of the things I asked Comey 110 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: about is is he testified under oath and under penalty 111 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 1: of perjury that he had never leaked to the press 112 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 1: and that he'd never authorized anyone to leak to the press. 113 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: Concerning this, Andrew McCabe, who was his deputy, has publicly 114 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: stated that he leaked to the press and that Comy 115 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: authorized him to do so, and he knew about it. 116 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: And so I asked Coomy about it. I read the 117 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: two statements. I said, Look, these are directly contradictory. They 118 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: can't both be true. So who's telling the truth and 119 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 1: Comy again under oath, reiterated that he never leaked and 120 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: never authorized anyone to leak. McCabe's coming before the Judiciary 121 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: Committee next week, and you better believe I'm going to 122 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: ask him the same thing. One or the other. Is 123 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 1: lying and doing it in front of the Judiciary Committee. 124 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: Is perjury that is punishable by prison term. Well, we'll 125 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: obviously have to cover that next week. You know, I 126 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 1: want to get to the debates a little bit. And 127 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 1: actually this ties directly in one one line that President 128 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: Trump came back to last night, as he said, there 129 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: was an attempted coup. The previous administration spied on my campaign, 130 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: they drove up this whole ridiculous narrative. They tried to 131 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: impeach me over absolutely nothing. And so it's not a 132 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: minor issue. It's not enough to just say, oh, well 133 00:07:57,800 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: that was a few years ago. We'll move on. You know, 134 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: this is an issue that gets to the heart of 135 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: the integrity of our political system, and that there was 136 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: a little bit of a parallel I felt at the debate, 137 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: which is that it's supposed to be the two people 138 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 1: who disagree, right, Donald Trump and Joe Biden, and a 139 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 1: neutral moderator. There are supposed to be neutral, nonpartisan elements 140 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: to our government, and the moderator, just like a lot 141 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 1: of elements of the government, turned out to be a 142 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: partisan Democrat weighing in on the side of Joe Biden. Yeah. 143 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: I think Chris Wallace did an abysmal job. I think 144 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 1: he's consistently been a really bad presidential debate moderator because 145 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 1: he's biased, and he's condescending, and he thinks it's all 146 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: about him. And so you saw, you know, before the debate, 147 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:47,679 Speaker 1: he said he wanted to be invisible, but that disappeared 148 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: when the debate started, where he you know, there was 149 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: a lot of stomping his foot and you know, I'm 150 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:55,079 Speaker 1: in charge here, listen to me. You know, reminded me 151 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: of South Park, you know, respect my authority. I mean, 152 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 1: I mean that that was Chris Wallace, and yes, and 153 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 1: but he was also Look, a lot of people get 154 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: confused because Wallace is on Fox News, and so they 155 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 1: assume he might must be a Republican or right of center. 156 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:17,959 Speaker 1: He's a liberal Democrat and he's been in the entire 157 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 1: time I've been in the Senate. I've seen Wallace do 158 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: it over and over again, that he attacks conservatives, that 159 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: he carries water for the left. You saw with the questions, 160 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: you know, one of his questions to Trump was the 161 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 1: New York Times hit piece on the taxes, which you know, 162 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 1: conveniently two days before the debate, entirely designed to be 163 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 1: the attack on the debate. Now, mind you, the New 164 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: York Times doesn't actually release the tax documents, so it's 165 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 1: purely the Times's characterization of them. But but Wallace does 166 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 1: none of that to Biden. Apparently there are no issues 167 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: with Biden. Did you know that there are no criticisms 168 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 1: of Joe Biden? Lucky guy? You know, at times Wallace's 169 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 1: question were almost like, you know, mister Vice President, are 170 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 1: you more handsome or brilliant? Like like like it was, 171 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: and his little his laughter, his snide comments. There is 172 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: zero doubt for whom Chris Wallace is voting, that he 173 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: is voting for Joe Biden. And that's not a good 174 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 1: thing for for a moderator. Now, you know, we were 175 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 1: talking about Senate Judiciary Committee a minute ago and how 176 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 1: the witnesses testify under penalty of perjury. I think it's 177 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 1: a good thing that neither of the candidates last night 178 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: were testifying under penalty. There's some exaggerations perhaps in there, 179 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 1: or worse, it was wild and Woolley. I don't think 180 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 1: there's ever been a debate like this in the history 181 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 1: of presidential debates. At times it was ugly. I drew 182 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:51,959 Speaker 1: an analogy to the Detroit Pistons basketball team in the 183 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 1: nineteen nineties in that there were a lot of hard 184 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 1: fouls and miss shots. And you know, Trump at times 185 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 1: was Bill Lambier, coming with this massive arm and slamming 186 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: Joe across the head. Now Joe was rabbit punching back, 187 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 1: and I mean it was at times it almost became 188 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:15,439 Speaker 1: Jerry Springer and I expected someone to grab a chair 189 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: and like throw it at the other. It was disappointing, 190 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: I felt, I have to say it was. It was 191 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 1: obviously a two on one debate Wallace and Biden against 192 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: Trump to begin with, but I think a lot of 193 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: people were dispirited because you felt on the substance, Trump 194 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 1: had much more than Joe Biden. And even even on 195 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: the attacks, Joe Biden's attacks were just to call Trump 196 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 1: a clown and a racist and tell him to shut up, 197 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 1: man and come on man. But it was so childish 198 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 1: and I understand maybe the President's strategy was to off 199 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 1: foot Biden a little bit, but I felt there were 200 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 1: too many interruptions. I felt that was counterproductive. It was 201 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 1: just dispiriting. I felt for both camps. What do you 202 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 1: think the upshot of it is going to be for 203 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 1: both campaign and how do you think that they can 204 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 1: do better next time? Yeah, Look, I don't think the 205 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 1: debate moved many votes last night. I think the people 206 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 1: that came in supporting Trump left supporting Trump. The people 207 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 1: that came in supporting Biden left supporting Biden. I don't 208 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:18,079 Speaker 1: think there were a whole lot of undecided voters whose 209 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 1: views were changed. Both candidates had good moments in the debate. 210 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 1: Trump I think his best moment was when he called 211 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: out Biden and he explained that Biden is supporting shutting 212 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: down the economy, shutting down small businesses, shutting down restaurants, 213 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 1: destroying job, shutting down schools. And Trump contrasted that says 214 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: he wants people to open, go back to work, go 215 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 1: back to school. That was really important, and Biden didn't 216 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 1: have a good response to that. Biden was trying to 217 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: run away from his positions. I thought that was a 218 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 1: very positive exchange. I also thought Trump was particularly good 219 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 1: went on law enforcement. You know, Joe made reference to 220 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:02,079 Speaker 1: being supported law enforcement, and Trump said, really, name one, 221 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: name one law enforcement organization in all of America supporting you, 222 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 1: and Joe just kind of blinked, wide eyed and had 223 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 1: no idea. And then, of course Chris Wallace jumped in 224 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 1: and bailed Joe out. Wallace should have shut up and 225 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: stayed out of it right then, and Trump should have 226 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 1: been quiet yeah and pressed it. It's one very powerful 227 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 1: thing in a negotiation, in an interview is silence. Silence. 228 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 1: People hate silence. People want to fill silence with space. 229 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: And you know, the question Trump asked, name one law 230 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 1: enforcement agency in the entire country that has supported you. 231 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: I think if Trump had just simply looked at him 232 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 1: and waited, and there had been two three, four, five 233 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 1: six seconds of silence as violent Biden had no answer, 234 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 1: it would have been really powerful that being said, the 235 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 1: point was made. Nonetheless, the point was made, and it 236 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:02,199 Speaker 1: was too bad that Chris Wallace jumped in. I mean, 237 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 1: obviously I guess that was what he was there for, 238 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 1: was to go in and help the Democrat. But there 239 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 1: is this basic rule in politics I don't need to 240 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: tell you this, which is that when your opponent is 241 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 1: destroying himself, don't get in the way. There's no reason 242 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: to interrupt that well, and by the way, an another 243 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: quick example, you know Joe Biden, he tried a couple 244 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 1: of times to run away from some positions of the left. 245 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 1: He pretended he didn't support packing the cord, or actually 246 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 1: technically he said he wouldn't answer that question, which means yes, 247 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 1: he supports packing the cord. He did help himself, I 248 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 1: think when he came out strongly and said that he 249 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 1: opposed defunding the police, although I think both Wallace and 250 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 1: Trump should have pressed back on him hard. And I 251 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 1: thought it was interesting that he ran away from the 252 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 1: Green New Deal and said I don't support the Green 253 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: New Deal. If Wallace were actually being a fair and 254 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: impartial moderator, the natural follow up question to that is 255 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 1: why aspects of the Green New Deal do you not support? 256 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 1: You're running mate as a co sponsor of it. I mean, 257 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 1: there was no substance, so he was able to say no, 258 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 1: no, no no, no, I don't I don't support that, but 259 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 1: with no details, and he wasn't pressed one iota. And 260 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 1: the first question of the debate actually is what we 261 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 1: were talking about on the last episode. The first topic 262 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 1: dominated the beginning was the Supreme Court, and it was 263 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 1: on this issue of court packing, and it was on 264 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 1: other other aspects of the Supreme Court. Coincidentally, you happen 265 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: to have a book out on this subject, One Vote Away. 266 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 1: But I do think it kind of vindicates what we 267 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 1: were saying on the previous episode, which is that, however 268 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 1: it is today, I don't however it came to be 269 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court is the dominant issue in the presidential elections. Now, 270 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: I think that's right. It was the number one question 271 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: in the debate. The book, One Vote Away, it came 272 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 1: out yesterday. It's actually done really well. We did podcast 273 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 1: yesterday and we asked folks thank you for going going 274 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 1: online to Amazon or wherever and buying it. We've been 275 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 1: in the top ten national best sellers on Amazon. Actually 276 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 1: right now on Amazon's best seller list for political conservativism 277 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 1: and Liberalism, which is sort of an odd odd list 278 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 1: if you're I guess a righty or lefty. Um, the 279 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: book is right now number one, and I gotta say 280 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 1: I think Verdict listeners, you guys are a huge part 281 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: of why that is thank you that really it makes 282 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 1: a difference, and I think I think you'll find the 283 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: book really interesting and informative and helpful, hopefully for the 284 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 1: same reason that that you find verdict helpful. Right. Well, 285 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: it's actually I think it would be a good contrast 286 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 1: to the debate, which is that I am professionally obligated 287 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 1: to watch every minute of that debate, and if I 288 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 1: were not professionally obligated to do it, I would not 289 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 1: have it. I didn't feel it was productive. It was 290 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: difficult often to watch and listen to. But it's different 291 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 1: when you're talking about the book. You're you actually do leave. 292 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:06,679 Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not just shilling for your book. I 293 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 1: really am enjoying it because for this reason, you leave 294 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: with actual information, so you can say, Okay, this is 295 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: this is ammo I can use frankly, when I'm having 296 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:18,880 Speaker 1: these debates with my friends and I'm at the water 297 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:22,439 Speaker 1: cooler or I'm wherever at a dinner party. Well, and 298 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 1: you know the debate last night. The first question, actually 299 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 1: Wallace asked a good first question. It was a neutral 300 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 1: moderator question where he said, mister President, your position on 301 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court vacancy is as follows. Vice President Biden, 302 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: your position is as follows. And he fairly neutrally characterized 303 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 1: both sides, and he said, tell us why, why you're right? 304 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 1: And then so he just teat up the issue and 305 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,880 Speaker 1: then let them engage. That was actually a pretty good beginning. 306 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 1: It was it was not as biased as some of 307 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:55,919 Speaker 1: his later questions. I got to say. The president's response, 308 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 1: he essentially said, well, I'm president, and I got elected, 309 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 1: so I get to nominate, and we won. And I 310 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:13,680 Speaker 1: wish I wish the president had focused on why it matters, 311 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 1: why the Supreme Court matters, what's at stake. I wish 312 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:19,119 Speaker 1: the president had focused on the issue is really at 313 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 1: the core of the book. One vote away that he 314 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 1: talked about free speech or religious liberty of the Second Amendment. 315 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 1: You know, when I was a college debater, we used 316 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 1: to think all the time, when when you were in 317 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 1: an opposition of of focusing on harms. In fact, you know, 318 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: I would say, harms, harms, harms, how does it impact you? 319 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: And and a little bit of the back and forth 320 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 1: between Trump and Biden, it was about them and and 321 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,919 Speaker 1: and I really think it would have been more effective 322 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 1: for it to be about you at home, if you're 323 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 1: the soccer mom at home watching this debate. Okay, yes, 324 00:18:56,359 --> 00:19:00,159 Speaker 1: people elected the president. And by the way, Biden had 325 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:04,360 Speaker 1: a huge created a huge opening because he came and said, well, 326 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:07,400 Speaker 1: the American people deserved to have a say. They get 327 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 1: to vote on a president, they get to vote on 328 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 1: the Senate, and they deserve to have a say. That 329 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:14,399 Speaker 1: was his reason why we shouldn't vote on him. And 330 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 1: Trump had a natural response of you know what, Joe 331 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 1: was absolutely right. The American people deserved to have a say, 332 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: and they did. They elected me in twenty sixteen. I 333 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 1: told him what kind of justice I was going to appoint. 334 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 1: They elected a Republican Senate. They told him what kind 335 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 1: of justice we were going to confirm. And Joe, there's 336 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 1: a reason the American people that they want free speech. 337 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 1: They don't want the government prohibiting you criticizing politicians. They 338 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:42,400 Speaker 1: want religious liberty, they want to be able to worship. 339 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 1: They want the Second Amendment. And Joe, your justices would 340 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 1: take away Second Amendment rights from Americans. It was a 341 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:52,880 Speaker 1: great opportunity that Joe kind of stuck his chin out 342 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:58,400 Speaker 1: there and asked to be clavered, not in a personal attack, 343 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 1: but really a substantive of your vision for America is 344 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:06,400 Speaker 1: not what the American people want, and it's not how 345 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:10,959 Speaker 1: they voted in twenty fourteen in the Senate, in twenty 346 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 1: sixteen in the Senate and the presidency, or in twenty 347 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 1: eighteen in the Senate. That's a great insight. I mean, 348 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 1: I saw that missed opportunity there. I felt you could 349 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 1: have hit it. But I like the framing that you've 350 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 1: just described, which is it's not about me, it's about you, 351 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 1: and don't forget that was a huge help to President 352 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 1: Trump in the general election in twenty sixteen when Hillary's 353 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:32,159 Speaker 1: slogan was I'm with her, and he said, forget that, 354 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 1: I'm with you, completely flips there races I'm with you. 355 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 1: And in the spirit of that, as a matter of fact, 356 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,360 Speaker 1: I do want to get to some mail bad questions 357 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:42,640 Speaker 1: from you, not you senator, but you out there. And 358 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 1: this does relate to the debate. This question is from 359 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 1: Brandon what changes could be made to make the debates 360 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: more effective or I'll add listenable. Look, at some level, 361 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 1: it's impossible if the two are going to yell at 362 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 1: each other. President Trump in particular want like is looking 363 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 1: for a brawl. I actually think he would be better 364 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 1: off sort of ratcheting down a little bit and engaging 365 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 1: in a more more of a conversation and discussion. But 366 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 1: I think it would be benefited from having moderators. I 367 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,919 Speaker 1: think rather than pretending people are unbiased, we ought to 368 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:32,360 Speaker 1: just admit. So I'd have a Republican moderator, a Democratic moderator. 369 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:36,160 Speaker 1: I'd have a you know, how about have Sean Hannity 370 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 1: and Rachel Maddow moderator debate together and everyone will know 371 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 1: which hat they're wearing, or you know, or Mark Levin 372 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:49,159 Speaker 1: or Rush Limbaugh or Michael Knowles or Ben Shapiro. I mean, 373 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 1: I mean, can you imagine Ben modering a debate and fine, 374 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:55,159 Speaker 1: get some whatever, smart lefty, get lefty Ben Shapiro and 375 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 1: Chris Hayes. That would actually be an interesting debate. Now 376 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:03,159 Speaker 1: everyone gets that Shapiro would ask questions. He's coming from 377 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,399 Speaker 1: a perspective, and Hayes is coming from a perspective, and 378 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:08,959 Speaker 1: they would ask questions to advance their perspectives. I think 379 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 1: that actually be a more honest debate, an interesting debate, 380 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 1: because it would expose the weaknesses of both sides and 381 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 1: help people make an intelligent decision. Absolutely, I totally agree 382 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 1: this idea of when can we get back to a 383 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:26,199 Speaker 1: perfectly balanced, neutral objective press that probably never existed, that 384 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 1: I think is missing the point. Let's just be honest 385 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 1: about it, and that way you get to some fairness. Now, 386 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 1: this question is going to come from the opposite end 387 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 1: of watching or listening to last night's debate from Margot. 388 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 1: What does Senator Cruz do for fun to take a 389 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:50,479 Speaker 1: break from politics? Play basketball? I love hoops about the past. 390 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 1: I played two hours of hoops yesterday, played two hours 391 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 1: of hoops two days ago. I can barely walk because 392 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 1: I turned fifty and a couple of months, so for 393 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 1: to five hours of hoops is a bit too much. Um. 394 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:08,880 Speaker 1: I like playing tennis. I love movies. I'm I used 395 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 1: to go to the movies at least once a week. 396 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 1: I mean, I love being in the big movie theater. 397 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 1: Um play with my kids. I mean the girls are 398 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 1: nine and twelve, so so free time at home is 399 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 1: family time. We play games. I'm love to play games, 400 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 1: play poker, UM play backgammon with Catherine, she likes backgam 401 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: and we play monopoly, played dominoes. UM, dominoes is a 402 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:43,880 Speaker 1: Cuban favorite. So every Thanksgiving and Christmas, the family will 403 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 1: get around. Cubans, by the way, play double nine dot 404 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 1: double sixes, and and and my college and law school 405 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 1: roommate guy named David Panton, who's Jamaican. In Jamaica, they 406 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:56,919 Speaker 1: play a lot of dominoes as well. They played double sixes. 407 00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:00,879 Speaker 1: And David came to visit the house a couple of 408 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,439 Speaker 1: months ago when when Heidi was out of town, and 409 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:05,920 Speaker 1: so we just had kind of a boy's weekend hanging out, 410 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 1: and a couple other guys came over and we played 411 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 1: dominoes at the dining room table and and and that 412 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 1: particular time, David's a very good Domino's player. I happened 413 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 1: to win that particular night, and so I called up 414 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 1: my dad. My dad is a very good Domino's players too, 415 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,399 Speaker 1: And I called up and I said Dad, and my 416 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 1: father knows David really well. And I said, Dad, you 417 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:31,879 Speaker 1: really need to come for David right now. And actually 418 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 1: I want to ask you to pray for him, because 419 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:36,640 Speaker 1: you know, he just flew all the way to Houston 420 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 1: and he just got got humiliated at dominoes and and 421 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 1: and he's hurting and so dad and I have him 422 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,360 Speaker 1: on FaceTime and I said, you know, Dad, I'm asking 423 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:50,879 Speaker 1: you to to commiserated. My father had just finished playing 424 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:54,919 Speaker 1: dominoes with my cousin and my dad happened to have 425 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 1: one too, and so my father was having He said, 426 00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 1: you know what, we ought to get David Marino together 427 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 1: and then they can commiserate on on what it's like 428 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 1: to to need to study dominoes. More so, it was 429 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,439 Speaker 1: not we weren't showing a whole lot of compassion at 430 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 1: that moment. Senator, I've got to tell you, while I'm 431 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,919 Speaker 1: picturing you playing dominoes at the table, all I'm picturing 432 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 1: is you guys lining them all up and then you 433 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 1: push one down and they all that's that's I don't 434 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 1: know how to play dominoes. That's all I know how 435 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 1: to do with them, But it creates a much funnier 436 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,399 Speaker 1: immage you. I notice you left one thing off the list, 437 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 1: which is my favorite hobby that we've ever done together. 438 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 1: The cigars. Where are the cigars? It doesn't make the 439 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: top ten? Um, so when I play poker, I love 440 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:40,439 Speaker 1: to smoke cigars. Um. All right. A funny Heidi story. 441 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:44,399 Speaker 1: When Heidi and I were engaged. Um. I used to 442 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 1: host a regular poker night and my buddies would come 443 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,880 Speaker 1: over at the dining room table and we'd we'd play 444 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 1: poker and we'd smoke cigars sitting at the dining room table, 445 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:56,440 Speaker 1: and they were like, man, your girlfriend or your fiance 446 00:25:56,600 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 1: is amazing, Like I can't believe she let you smoke inside. 447 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,159 Speaker 1: And I'm just like, yeah, yeah, that's like you know what, 448 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:06,159 Speaker 1: I'm yeah, that's that's just how cool it is. Cool's amazing. 449 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 1: And we got married May twenty seventh, two thousand and one. 450 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 1: We're coming up on our twentieth anniversary. We literally get 451 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 1: back from the honeymoon. I'm getting rid of host poker game. 452 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 1: She says, get the damned cigars outside. You are never 453 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 1: to smoke it inside again. And I never have. It's 454 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:23,679 Speaker 1: been twenty years since I've been able to smoke a 455 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 1: cigar inside. So so sometimes the engagements rules are different 456 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 1: from the marriage rules, and then I can see that 457 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 1: it's sort of it changes like that. I suppose. I 458 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 1: suppose marriage is a bad sacrifice, good though, to be 459 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 1: able to take a moment to relax, even if you 460 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 1: have to do it outside. Now, to have a little 461 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 1: bit of fun, because a lot to celebrating gratulations on 462 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 1: the book going so far up up the list, and 463 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,680 Speaker 1: be sure for everyone to go out there and get 464 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 1: a copy of One Vote Away. I promise it will 465 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:58,399 Speaker 1: be a substantive distraction from all the madness that you're 466 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 1: going to be getting in the media for the next 467 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 1: couple months of the presidential cycle. We're gonna be back 468 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,640 Speaker 1: forgetting about our relaxation. We're gonna be back talking about 469 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:08,359 Speaker 1: all of that. Obviously a lot coming up, but in 470 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 1: the meantime, I'm Michael Knowles. This is Verdict with Ted Cruz. 471 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 1: This episode of Verdict with Ted Cruz is being brought 472 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:26,400 Speaker 1: to you by Jobs, Freedom and Security Pack, a political 473 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:31,440 Speaker 1: action committee dedicated to supporting conservative causes, organizations, and candidates 474 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 1: across the country. In twenty twenty two, Jobs Freedom and 475 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 1: Security Pack plans to donate to conservative candidates running for 476 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:41,639 Speaker 1: Congress and help the Republican Party across the nation.