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Speaker 1: Trump, President of the United States of America, a representative

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Speaker 1: of the media.

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Speaker 2: Excellent distinguished guests and members of the media Alania.

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Speaker 1: Now we will see the signing of the Agreement of

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Speaker 1: buying aircraft from bowing. His excellency Badermina Lemir will sign

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Speaker 1: from the Kataris Sad and Kelly O. Bucks will be

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Speaker 1: signing on behalf of Boeing between the.

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Speaker 2: State of Katar and the United States of America Boeing

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Speaker 2: Purchase Agreement signed on behalf of the State of Qatar

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Speaker 2: by his Excellency Bedram Hammadinmir CEO of Qatar Airways Company,

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Speaker 2: and behalf of the United States Kelly Ordberg, President CEO

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Speaker 2: of the Boeing Company. We will now witness the signing

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Speaker 2: of a number of agreements in the field of defense

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Speaker 2: between the State of Qatar and the United States of America,

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Speaker 2: Signed on behalf of the State of Qatar by his

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Speaker 2: Excellency Rude Ben abd Rahman Ben Hassan Altani, Deputy Prime

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Speaker 2: Minister and Minister of State for Defense Affairs, on behalf

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Speaker 2: of the United States of America by the Honorable Pete Hegseth,

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Speaker 2: Secretary of Defense of the United States of America. Firstly

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Speaker 2: a letter a state of intent on defense cooperation between

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Speaker 2: the State of Qatar and the United States of America. Secondly,

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Speaker 2: a letter of offer and acceptance for MQ nine B

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Speaker 2: Thank you. It is my honor to announce the signing

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Speaker 2: of a joint Declaration of cooperation between the States of

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Speaker 2: Qatar and the United States of America, signed on behalf

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Speaker 2: of the State of Qatar by His Highness Shartimin Binhammad Altani,

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Speaker 2: Emir of the State of Qatar, and the Honorable Donald J. Trump,

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Speaker 2: President of the United States of America. The signing ceremony

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Speaker 2: has now come to an end, and now a joint

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much. We had a couple of hours

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Speaker 3: many issues, our great bilateral relationship and also the situation

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Speaker 3: in the region. Of course, I think after signing these documents,

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Speaker 4: Thank you very much.

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Speaker 5: Sir, well, thank you very much, and this has been

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Speaker 4: We discussed the world.

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Speaker 5: We discussed Russia and Ukraine, where you've been a tremendous

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Speaker 5: you were of great help and and other things, but

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Speaker 5: in particular trade in the trade is the Kelly's telling

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Speaker 5: me from Boeing, that's the largest order of jets in

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Speaker 5: the history of Boeing. That's pretty good. And that's one

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Speaker 5: but one sixty in terms of the jets, that's fantastic.

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Speaker 5: So that's our record, Kelly, And congratulations to Boeing. Get

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Speaker 4: Well for you, it was politics. For me, it wasn't right.

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Speaker 5: But we've been friends for a long time, and this

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Speaker 5: And we're going to help each other. The United States

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Speaker 5: But I just want to thank you for the friendship,

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Speaker 5: for the long time friendship, and again, long before any

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Speaker 5: If you want another both tall, handsome, guys that happen

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Speaker 5: it's a great honor to be with you. This is

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Speaker 5: the real deal that's called white marble. It's very hard

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Speaker 5: And we're with you all the way, and you know that.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. The ceremony has now come.

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Speaker 6: Okay, right there, you see President left us ceremony.

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Speaker 7: going to go back in time, show you about his arrival,

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Speaker 7: what happened, some of the big news yesterday.

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Speaker 6: Let's go and let her rip.

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Speaker 5: The transformations have been unbelievably remarkable before our eyes. In

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Speaker 5: the Middle East is defined by commerce not chaos, where

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Speaker 5: it exports technology not terrorism, and where people of different nations, religions,

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Speaker 4: We don't want that, and it's crucial for.

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Speaker 5: The wider world to note this great transformation has not

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Speaker 5: giving you lectures on how to.

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Speaker 5: So called nation builders wrecked far more nations than they built,

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Speaker 4: That they did not even understand themselves.

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Speaker 5: They told you how to do it, but they had

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Speaker 9: As and Trump is in Katara this morning after wrapping

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Speaker 5: It gives them a chance for greatness. The sanctions were

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Speaker 10: After the terrible Syrian Civil War, the awful loss of life,

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Speaker 6: This is the primal scream of a dying regime.

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Speaker 7: Pray for our enemies because we're going to medieval and

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Speaker 6: The people have had a belly full of it. I

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Speaker 7: I know you've tried to do everything in the world

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Speaker 6: It's going to happen.

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Speaker 11: Mega media?

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Speaker 7: I wish in my soul, I wish that any of

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Speaker 6: Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my If.

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Speaker 7: That answer is to save my country, this country will

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Speaker 7: It's Wednesday, fourteen May year arl Or twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 7: Another historic day in the in the Middle East. Is

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Speaker 7: President Trump reorganizes the Middle East the most since was

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Speaker 7: a Sykes Pico back in nineteen eighteen. We're very honored

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Speaker 7: course recovering live everything the president does. Congressman Matt Gates

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Speaker 7: one of the greatest young men in his generation and

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Speaker 6: We'll get into that.

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Speaker 7: So first off, you were one of the early proponents

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Speaker 6: I don't know that we get a rest on that.

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Speaker 7: You don't think we get a resolution. You think that

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Speaker 6: I do.

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Speaker 7: Wow, Matt Gates here, Okay, we're gonna take a short

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Speaker 7: Okay, there's some absolutely amazing footage that was made by

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Speaker 7: Congressman Gates. We went this historic trip and our former producer,

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Speaker 7: Vish Burgh, let me know as soon as we have it,

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Speaker 7: I want to show this as breathaking. We're gonna put

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Speaker 7: time to play. I want to go back to your theory.

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Speaker 7: The case is very important. When Matt Gate says something,

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Speaker 7: it's important walk me through the constant because we're having

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Speaker 7: a convergence of the trying to end the kinetic part

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Speaker 7: of the Third World War, the deportations, the cons and

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Speaker 8: Let me let it rip go here. Okay, we have

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Speaker 8: been building this populist movement. We've got populist energy in

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Speaker 8: the Congress. We got our few populist senators, you know,

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Speaker 8: Vance Holly, We had the guy from Indiana, bron Rick Scott.

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Speaker 8: You can get a populist president even and so the

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Speaker 8: one place that the elitists have us cornered out is

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Speaker 8: the judiciary. Because if you're a populist great thinker, is

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Speaker 8: really hard.

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Speaker 6: To be a judge. You know why. The system to.

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Speaker 8: Become a judge requires judicial nominating commissions and like you

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Speaker 8: local Bar Association, and then like maybe you also go

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Speaker 8: to Harvard and Yale. Well maybe because a Democrat senator

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Speaker 8: and a Republican senator had to agree to allowed you

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Speaker 8: to proceed. So it's this whole mating dance with the

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Speaker 8: establishment that you have to go through to become a

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Speaker 8: federal judge that you don't have to go through even

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Speaker 8: It is more exquisite and more challenging, and it draws

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Speaker 8: you deeper into the establishment to take that position. So

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Speaker 8: if we did all of this, won the Swing States,

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Speaker 8: beat de Sanus, trudge through the snow at Iowa in

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Speaker 8: New Hampshire, If we did all of what we did

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Speaker 8: to eke out these majorities in the Congress and to

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Speaker 8: get Trump through assassination attempts at indictments so that some sniveling,

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Speaker 8: little you know what in like a Massachusetts courtroom can

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Speaker 8: dictate to us the terms of US foreign policy, then

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Speaker 8: this has all been for not and so it cannot stand.

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Speaker 8: You know who I think had the clarion moment of

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Speaker 8: this Secretary of State, Marco Rubio who I used to

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Speaker 8: work for back in two thousand and five. And when

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Speaker 8: about the nature of his communications with Salvadorian President Nahibukeley,

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Speaker 8: he said, I'm not telling you, and I'm not telling

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Speaker 8: a judge. You know why, because that is not the

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Speaker 8: purview of the courts. We're going to have to take

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Speaker 8: this position. Okay, We're not getting out of this presidency

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Speaker 8: without having to thoroughly reject one of these unconstitutional nationwide injunctions.

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Speaker 6: And so the Bannon. You know, if we were doing

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Speaker 6: this like the.

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Speaker 8: Old days, we would say, Okay, if this is coming,

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Speaker 8: what is the ground you want to fight on?

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Speaker 6: And I propose to this audience and to you and to.

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Speaker 8: My former colleagues in Congress, that the best ground to

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Speaker 8: fight on is deportations under the alien enemies at big time,

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Speaker 8: clearly in the article to purview of the president, the

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Speaker 6: And so I went down to Sacat prison.

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Speaker 8: I was the first American journalist inside the trendy Ara hangar.

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Speaker 7: Before we get there, Yes, this has been a project

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Speaker 7: to get to that prison. Even I have our guys

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Speaker 7: down there, just didn't materialize.

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Speaker 6: Walk me through the logic. You had to think this through. Well.

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Speaker 8: I started to see what was happening in Ol Salvador,

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Speaker 8: of the world into the safest country in the Western hemisphere.

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Speaker 8: And I started talking about it on your program. I

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Speaker 8: started talking about it in Congress. He invited me down

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Speaker 8: to his inauguration. I met him there. We became fast friends.

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Speaker 8: He's my age, and I really became an advocate for

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Speaker 8: the USL Salvador relationship.

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Speaker 6: And he said to a group.

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Speaker 8: Of congressmen who were down meeting with him during the

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Speaker 8: last term, that you know, if Trump won and if

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Speaker 8: Trump needed a place to put thugs and criminals, that

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Speaker 8: Olsalvador had developed an expertise with this because in a

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Speaker 8: country of six million people, they've rounded up forty thousand

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Speaker 8: hardened gang members. If you do that in a country

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Speaker 8: of that size, you get security real quick. And this

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Speaker 8: of exception that allowed those people to be rounded up,

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Speaker 8: that has a ninety.

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Speaker 6: Five percent approval rating.

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Speaker 8: Even the prisoner I spoke to who admitted to killing

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Speaker 6: Said yeah, what he needed fifty people? No, he said,

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Speaker 6: he said he killed fifty people. That's how he ended.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 8: We asked him how he ended up in Seccat. He

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Speaker 8: said homicide. We asked how many people he killed. He

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Speaker 8: said about fifty. And most of his time was in

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Speaker 8: the United States and killings in the United States. And

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Speaker 8: he said, look, this new president got in and he

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Speaker 8: meant business, and we got what we deserved here in

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Speaker 8: Seccat prison. And so look, we please, we cannot be

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Speaker 8: tolerant of this judicial coup. We cannot have an administration

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Speaker 8: and a Congress that sits back and allows like the

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Speaker 8: you know, uh, the best selection of the Harvard Law

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Speaker 8: Admissions Council to be able to run the country. And

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Speaker 8: and there's those deportation flights should resume immediately to Secat prison.

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Speaker 6: And look, we're not going to we're not going to.

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Speaker 7: Be able to judge comes in and puts a big

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Speaker 7: because your commander, and keep.

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Speaker 6: The planes flying.

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Speaker 8: This is US foreign policy with enemy combatants, with the

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Speaker 8: public on our side.

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Speaker 6: On President Trump's signature issue.

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Speaker 8: If we are not willing to do this in the

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Speaker 8: face of some woktopian in a black robe.

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Speaker 6: Then we did not deserve this victory. Let's play.

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Speaker 7: We got some footage. You've got so much great footage.

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Speaker 7: We're going to play it throughout the day. I'm going

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Speaker 7: to play a snippet here that was quite shocking when

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Speaker 7: I saw it, and I've seen a lot of this stuff.

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Speaker 6: Let's go and play it. See his reaction to the

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Speaker 6: trend a Aragua prison ward, What.

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Speaker 7: Okay, okay, we're back, okay? What did we just see there?

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Speaker 7: And what were they shouting at you?

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Speaker 6: Guys?

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Speaker 8: They want out, they want to come back here, and

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Speaker 8: we can't let them. You know, these were people who

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Speaker 8: were involved in criminal gang activities in the United States.

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Speaker 8: They have all the gang markings that have been screened

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Speaker 8: for those affiliations.

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Speaker 6: And you know what, you don't get to come back.

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Speaker 8: You don't get to invade our country and then expect

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Speaker 8: that when you're in a Salvador in prison, We're going

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Speaker 8: to come bail you out.

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Speaker 6: You and I gotta say yeah.

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Speaker 8: The camera work of War Room Alum vish Borough was masterful,

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Speaker 8: absolutely masterful. All of the footage on our big special

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Speaker 8: was filmed by one guy Vishborough Warroom trained warm.

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Speaker 7: You're so it's so scary when you see the whole thing,

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Speaker 7: and then you go to the other time that you

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Speaker 7: go to the other side with the MS thirteen, who

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Speaker 7: are the baddest of the bad ombrees. They're like sheep,

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Speaker 7: it's actually it's freaky about how how did that happen?

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Speaker 8: They're just broken people. I think a lot of them

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Speaker 8: are one thousands of years sentence. There was a moment

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Speaker 8: when we were in the MS thirteen ward on a

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Speaker 8: different visit when congress Men Andy Biggs turned to the

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Speaker 8: warden and said, did everyone here kill someone?

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Speaker 6: Because there are thousands and the.

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Speaker 8: Warden looked back and said, oh, no, everyone here killed

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Speaker 8: more than one someone. And so it's for people who

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Speaker 8: are multiple killers and it is totally zapped of the

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Speaker 8: will to fight after they've been in that environment, no

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Speaker 8: will to fight, and they're not a threat to anyone.

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Speaker 8: But you know what, I also show my audience the

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Speaker 8: promise that comes out of this on the other side,

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Speaker 8: where people can start businesses and grow families and grow dreams.

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Speaker 6: And guess what.

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Speaker 8: Boo Kelly's President of bu Kelly's number one ask of

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Speaker 8: us is please cut off the flour and aid because

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Speaker 8: the way we treat these parts of the world is

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Speaker 8: by funding NGOs that then go after the governments that

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Speaker 8: are making live better for people.

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Speaker 7: You're one to always go on smart offense with these judges.

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Speaker 7: Should we be cutting off two billion dollars of the

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Speaker 7: twelve day the ten bay in the federal courts gets

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Speaker 7: you cut off two bay and she you start getting

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Speaker 7: rid of judge.

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Speaker 8: You and I both know that if you if you

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Speaker 8: cut the federal courthouse budget ninety five percent, those dedicated

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Speaker 8: wok toopians that want to issue these injunctions will set

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Speaker 8: up a tent in the parking lot and issue them. Okay,

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Speaker 8: So I think that the look the impeachments are justified,

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Speaker 8: but that's only a strategy that's more of a spasm.

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Speaker 8: And I think the well, we'll cut their funding. What

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Speaker 8: have you seen Congress cut the funding to anything. We

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Speaker 8: can't even get the Congress that cut the funding to the

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Speaker 8: USAI D. We showcased that USAID was a grift to

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Speaker 8: the world, and then they won't have been vote to

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Speaker 8: cut that.

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Speaker 7: So they're not going to do it or the don

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Speaker 7: they won't gotify. This requires fortitude and resilience. This is

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Speaker 7: not some legislative activity. This is an activity where our

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Speaker 7: country has to look within and say, just as Marco

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Speaker 7: Rubio did, we are not going to let these people

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Speaker 7: conduct matters of policy of the United States of America.

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Speaker 7: And if they'd just stuck to their lane, you know,

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Speaker 7: we probably would have had judicial review of birthright centerenship

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Speaker 7: and all that. But when it's like a federal judge

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Speaker 7: saying that the Department of Health and Human Services has

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Speaker 7: to put the Transsexual Guidebook back on the website, it

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Speaker 7: is so far afield that the only the only acceptable

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Speaker 7: response in this environment, the only acceptable response from the

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Speaker 7: administration is to ignore these orders.

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Speaker 6: I think.

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Speaker 8: I think complying with them is constitutional vandalism.

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Speaker 7: What do you recommend now to the administration. You're saying

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Speaker 7: when you see these orders that there are so clearly

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Speaker 7: unconstitutional about your Article two powers as chief executives, as

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Speaker 7: commander in chief, and as chief magistrate and chief law

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Speaker 7: enforcement officer, you're saying, don't comply.

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Speaker 8: Steve, this is Trump's great superpower revelation, right, and I

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Speaker 8: think he knows how to pick the fights to reveal

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Speaker 8: the enemies and the right sequence.

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Speaker 6: But my humble advice to the administration.

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Speaker 8: Is picket on this one, picket on the Alien Enemies

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Speaker 8: Act deportation, because through the resistance to the administration's actions

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Speaker 8: on that, you will reveal so much to the country

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Speaker 8: about the globalist invasion and the judicial coup that is

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Speaker 8: allowing it.

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Speaker 7: Let's talk about weaponization. Are you comfortable right now? You

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Speaker 7: know Ed Martin got bounced out of a DC attorney.

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Speaker 7: He's now owned the Weaponszation Task Force. You got Judge.

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Speaker 6: Janine coming in Main Justice.

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Speaker 7: They barely have a foothold over there, as much as

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Speaker 7: they're bringing in new people. And of course, you know

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Speaker 7: we blew out one hundred in the Civil Rights Division.

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Speaker 7: Do you think we've got control enough of Main Justice

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Speaker 7: that the that the anti weaponization movement that you said

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Speaker 7: had happened?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, you I can't judge it in that type of

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Speaker 8: a binary fashion. I think they're doing a great job

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Speaker 8: over a justice. Look at the directional progress of this though,

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Speaker 8: Like the last time you and I were and when

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Speaker 8: we first sat at this table, we literally had an

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Speaker 8: Attorney General working against us, trying to throw hoping that

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Speaker 8: Trump had committed some sort of crime that they can

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Speaker 8: throw them in prison, and not just.

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Speaker 7: That both of you and I were going to prison, right,

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Speaker 7: exactly massive investigations, right.

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Speaker 8: So, I mean we've gone from the other side, like

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Speaker 8: the person at the top wanting to throw us all

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Speaker 8: in jail, and like busting down the doors of Maga

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Speaker 8: Grandmothers and Homer Alaska.

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Speaker 7: Which is that when you were a studio we used

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Speaker 7: to keep the door locked, saying hey, but you know

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Speaker 7: they get kicked down the door at anything, right, So

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Speaker 7: we've gone from.

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Speaker 8: That to like, maybe you know, we might have a

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Speaker 8: slightly different view on who someone four rungs down into

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Speaker 8: the bowels of the doj R. So that really, that

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Speaker 8: really means a lot of the work we did do

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Speaker 8: to fill out the billets is resulting in better policy outcomes.

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Speaker 6: It is. It is so rough over.

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Speaker 8: There, and I got a little peek at it, and

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Speaker 8: I think that Pam Bondo was trying to get control

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Speaker 8: of the building. Well, I think that most of the

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Speaker 8: people who work there probably wake up every day trying

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Speaker 8: to make General Bondi's job harder. And that's really tough

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Speaker 8: to deal with. And I think when you look through

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Speaker 8: it through that lens, what she's done on the deportations

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Speaker 8: on the law enforcement front, That's that's who and what

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Speaker 8: Pam Bondi is. She is a nose to the grindstone

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Speaker 8: law enforcement, you know, go see where the crimes are,

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Speaker 8: get the perpetrators and hold them accountable.

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Speaker 6: We gotta go to quick break.

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Speaker 7: If the President decides that they're so swamped over there,

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Speaker 7: he needs a special prosecutor to go after that, and

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Speaker 7: Matt Gates is always the top of his list. Does

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Speaker 7: mad Gates do that job?

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Speaker 8: I don't think we need special prosecutors now because we

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Speaker 8: have the apparatus of the Justice Department, right so in

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Speaker 8: a in a in an ideal world, it's the US

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Speaker 8: attorneys that we have that are doing that work.

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Speaker 7: Matt Gates is with us for another block short commercial

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Speaker 7: break back in.

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Speaker 6: The way we originally astic down.

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Speaker 11: He's your host, Stephen k Back.

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Speaker 7: Are we gonna be forced Uh, We're gonna be forced

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Speaker 7: to start suspending President Trump' suspending the writ of habeas corpus.

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Speaker 6: I side with Mike Davis on this.

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Speaker 8: I think there's so much ground that we have to

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Speaker 8: gobble up before we get there. I think that we

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Speaker 8: have to set some deterrence on Article two powers. You know,

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Speaker 8: I said before, I think if you look at how

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Speaker 8: John Roberts has been ruling, he's trying to avoid this

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Speaker 8: inevitable clash that is coming between You can see he's

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Speaker 8: trying to avoid it. He is trying to avoid it.

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Speaker 8: But I think that it's unavoidable, it's inexorably. We're being

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Speaker 8: drawn to this. We're being drawn to this because of

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Speaker 8: the nationwide injunctions and these tyrants in black robes and

743
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Speaker 8: single jurisdictions have got a taste of that power. And

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Speaker 8: I'm telling you it's it's like when you get a

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Speaker 8: bullshark that gets the taste of human blood, like it's

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Speaker 8: it's on it now.

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Speaker 7: Because on them it's something to see. That's the only

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Speaker 7: thing that's working for him right now. Everything else is dead.

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Speaker 7: You're reviled in the city by the elites in the

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Speaker 7: and the lobbyist some people that run it because you

751
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Speaker 7: did something that's ever been done in American history. Single

752
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Speaker 7: handedly pulled a team together, thought up a strategy, and

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Speaker 7: then executed to remove a sitting speaker of the House.

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Speaker 6: Was it worth it? Of course?

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Speaker 8: It showed that the power systems here don't win every time.

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Speaker 6: And I don't know precisely when.

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Speaker 8: Others in Congress will be called upon to summon that

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Speaker 8: courage to fight the beast, to fight the system in

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Speaker 8: a similar way. But I think it's a really important

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Speaker 8: bookmark in history to be able to say.

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Speaker 6: No, no, no.

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Speaker 8: If you really marshal a sufficient amount of energy and

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Speaker 8: you are tactical about it, you can beat power in

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Speaker 8: this town. And power has to know that occasionally to

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Speaker 8: inform decision making. But it's sort of like you know,

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Speaker 8: taking out the trash at the house. That's my responsibility

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Speaker 8: in my marriage. And just because I take out one

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Speaker 8: piece of trash or take out the trash once, I

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Speaker 8: can't really pat myself on the back.

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Speaker 7: The deal what people forget in early twenty three, the

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Speaker 7: deal that you made originally with McCarthy. If he had

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Speaker 7: executed on that deal, he would have been triumphant. He's

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Speaker 7: still be Speaker of the House. He would be one

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Speaker 7: of the greatest, one of the greatest speakers ever.

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Speaker 6: Correct.

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Speaker 7: You gave him the framework, a tough negotiation, but you

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Speaker 7: laid out of framework. If you execute single subody, Bill boom,

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Speaker 7: and we wouldn't be in this mess today with the

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Speaker 7: big beautiful Bill.

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Speaker 8: I think if any speaker took up that deal that

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Speaker 8: we made with McCarthy and executed on it, they would

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Speaker 8: be the most successful conservative speaker. But the corrupt interests

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Speaker 8: of this town have a gravitational pull to lawmake by

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Speaker 8: continuing resolution or I'm a bet spending bill. I don't

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Speaker 8: know about you, Steve, but I'm embarrassed that here we

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Speaker 8: are more than one hundred days into Donald Trump's presidency

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Speaker 8: and the finance structure we are operating under is the

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Speaker 8: Joe Biden, Mitch McConnell, Chuck Schumer, Mike.

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Speaker 7: Johns with was September thirtieth, over two trained down a

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Speaker 7: deficit in President Trump's first kick.

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Speaker 8: I had Keith self on my show this last week

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Speaker 8: and he said, if the skull Hawks won every little

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Speaker 8: battle of you know, medicaid snaps, whatever, about if we

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Speaker 8: want every one of them, we go to fifty trillion

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Speaker 8: in debt in the budget window in the next to

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Speaker 8: ten years. Yeah, I mean, Chip Roy is saying we're

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Speaker 8: in ten years, we're gonna ad twenty trillion to the debt,

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Speaker 8: which is not actually hard to fathom when you when

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Speaker 8: you look at the at the numbers. And I trust

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Speaker 8: President Trump's strategy, but the Houses then walk us through

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Speaker 8: the MATC Gates trade.

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Speaker 7: They still all look for you for guidance. Let me

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Speaker 7: be Burtley Frank and I love these guys. Without you there,

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Speaker 7: there's not a leader that can galvanize both the thinking

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Speaker 7: and guys.

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Speaker 6: Here's how we're going to execute.

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Speaker 7: So give me talk to me about what would be

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Speaker 7: the Gates plan here.

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Speaker 8: I am old fashioned in my desire to have single

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Speaker 8: subject bills because I think that's the only way you

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Speaker 8: create durability around these policy ideas.

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Speaker 6: You have to reveal the negative.

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Speaker 8: Arguments coming from the other side on our immigration plan,

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Speaker 8: on our trade plan, on our tax plan. And instead,

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Speaker 8: when all of that just kind of becomes branded as

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Speaker 8: Trump Agenda good, you miss the chance to really vertically

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Speaker 8: integrate the movement to those ideas that you are pushing.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 8: Part of the reason we don't do that is because

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Speaker 8: the lawmakers aren't really pushing.

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Speaker 6: What they say.

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Speaker 8: Like everybody was so excited about showing all this wasteful

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Speaker 8: foreign aid and now you've got Republican lawmakers in the

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Speaker 8: Senate voting to fully restore USAID and not.

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Speaker 6: Just like a small handful of them.

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Speaker 7: And not cudify even with Doge found not to cudify

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Speaker 7: any of the Doge cuts.

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Speaker 8: If we keep doing that, my question is does any

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Speaker 8: of the rest of it matter? I mean, if all

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Speaker 8: we did to save the border, to create a peaceful world,

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Speaker 8: to restore a sense of national pride, is it? Is

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Speaker 8: it gonna matter if we lose the dollar, if we

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Speaker 8: go fifty trillion in debt, if interest rates spike.

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Speaker 6: I musterity is you know.

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Speaker 7: The lobbyist because its coming over the all time? What

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Speaker 7: is the vested economic gifstris of the lobbyists in the

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Speaker 7: donor class not get about that or they just don't care.

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Speaker 8: I think that much like the way the stock market

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Speaker 8: has got everybody just thinking about their quarterly earnings, and

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Speaker 8: we choose a suboptimal path in the short term, in

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Speaker 8: the long term because there's a sugar high in the

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Speaker 8: short term. If we pout ourselves in the back, just

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Speaker 8: continue one thing done. We got something done. You know,

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Speaker 8: you guys all renamed some post offices. Everybody got a

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Speaker 8: little bridge they built, or a pork barrel project you

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Speaker 8: could take back to your districts. You can run on

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Speaker 8: it for the midterms, and all it costs us is

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Speaker 8: like the dollar in the country.

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Speaker 6: You and Ginger are clearly loving living in California, right,

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Speaker 6: or at least right we stay. We stay in Caliah.

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Speaker 8: We do my show a good amount out of Washington,

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Speaker 8: a good amount of Florida, and a good amount out

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Speaker 8: of California. My wife is from Californfornia, and it's it's

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Speaker 8: nice to differ in the Pacific Ocean.

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Speaker 7: Every the future of Matt Gates politically, governorship of Florida,

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Speaker 7: governorship of California.

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Speaker 6: We'll come back and run for the Senate, where I'm

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Speaker 6: not running for anything in California. I'm not a Californian.

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Speaker 8: But I know this about the moment we're in, there

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Speaker 8: will come a line change, just like in a hockey game.

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Speaker 8: You know, you've got to get some folks who have

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Speaker 8: to you know, who twist an ankle or have to

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Speaker 8: move on to something else. People who are in really

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Speaker 8: prominent roles now will will have their life circumstances change,

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Speaker 8: may need to live in a different place. And there's

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Speaker 8: a whole bastion of people who are already willing and

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Speaker 8: able upon a line change to do anything worse like.

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Speaker 7: In any fourth turning another crisis. I'm now having a

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Speaker 7: good conversions or crisis. So leadership like yours is maybe

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Speaker 7: more than ever. Where do people get the show, where

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Speaker 7: they get social media?

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Speaker 6: One American News.

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Speaker 8: Nine o'clock eastern, sixth Pacific, and I'm on X at

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Speaker 8: Mack's where we keep the conversation pretty widely.

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Speaker 7: We're going to leave the first hour by The Right

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Speaker 7: Stuff mag a classic book by Tom Wolf, a magnificent

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Speaker 6: I can't think of a better song to go out

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Speaker 6: than The Right Stuff.

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Speaker 7: Matt Gates has got it, sir, Thank you so much

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Speaker 7: for joining us here in the unbelievable MATD.

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Speaker 6: Gates in the

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Speaker 7: Will be back for the second hour just a moment.