1 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Hey, guys and girls, this is Mark Kenyon of the 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:08,239 Speaker 1: Wired Hunt podcast and we're here with another episode of 3 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: Wired to Hunt's Rut Radio and with me is our 4 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:17,440 Speaker 1: producer Spencer new Hearth High doon Man. Good, there's snow 5 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: on the ground, there's a chill in the ear, and 6 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: it's almost Thanksgiving, so I'm really happy. Yeah, this is 7 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: This is the weather and like the feeling of hunting 8 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: that I think a lot of us have been waiting 9 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: for because it's been a pretty warm November a lot 10 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:33,200 Speaker 1: of places, don't you think. Yeah, it's the cold front 11 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: that's like two weeks late and that we were looking 12 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: for at the beginning of November. I'm interested to hear 13 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: what are our correspondence across the country have seen. But you, 14 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:45,520 Speaker 1: my friend, you were able to get it done again, 15 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:50,159 Speaker 1: weren't you. Yeah. I was fortunate enough to harvest the 16 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: coolest year that I have ever seen on hoof. On 17 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: one side he had a normal five point side, nice 18 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: long brow ties and stuff, and you know, matching the 19 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: other side he had probably been a hundred classed year. 20 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: But then on his other side he had like two 21 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: mutant antlers, one smaller antler that came up that was 22 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:15,320 Speaker 1: like your typical four point side, but then below that, 23 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 1: growing out of the same base, he had this weird 24 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 1: stag horn that came out like two inches and then 25 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:23,320 Speaker 1: shot straight up in the air and did a ninety 26 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 1: degree angle that was eleven inches long. And so when 27 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 1: I saw him, I knew I had to get this 28 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 1: year on the ground. I was really excited when it 29 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:36,559 Speaker 1: worked out. Wow, that's crazy. So so how did that happen? Well, 30 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 1: we just got pounded um with a big snowstorm on 31 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:42,960 Speaker 1: like Thursday and Friday. It dropped like four or five 32 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: inches snow on the ground and it also brought some 33 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: pretty heavy winds with that. And so going into this hunt, 34 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: I was thinking less about rud activity and more about 35 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: you know, hunting a food source. So I hunted a 36 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 1: cut bean field with hopes that I would see you know, 37 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 1: a high number of deer. And was just what happened 38 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: for that hunt. I saw like twenty four dough and 39 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: three bucks, you know, including this one. When I initially 40 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: saw him was about ten minutes to daylight left or 41 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,079 Speaker 1: so um, and I could just see his good side 42 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: and at that point I was kind of on the 43 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: fence about shooting him. You know, I knew he was 44 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 1: a good looking deer, um, but I just wasn't sure 45 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: that this was the one I wanted. And then when 46 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 1: he gave me a better view, I could only pick 47 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:26,079 Speaker 1: up half of what was going on on the other side, 48 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: and I thought, you don't know, I'm not going to 49 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 1: shoot this year. But then he eventually moved a little 50 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:31,799 Speaker 1: bit closer and I could get the full picture. Uh, 51 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: and see, you know all the junkie had going on. 52 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 1: I thought, Okay, you know, this is the buck for me. 53 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:38,959 Speaker 1: And I was really excited then when it worked out, 54 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: because initially I had him in like two yards and 55 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:44,079 Speaker 1: that was when I decided I was not going to shoot. 56 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: But he worked his way all the way into forty 57 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: five yards. Um. That was kind of when I got 58 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: the idea of what this deal really was. And forty 59 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:55,399 Speaker 1: five yards with a sculped rifle that's a chip show, 60 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: you know, It's like five yards with your bow. Uh. 61 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 1: So it just it couldn't have worked any better. That's awesome. 62 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 1: And so those bucks where they just felt there feeding, 63 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: they weren't paying attention to the dose at all. Yeah, 64 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:08,919 Speaker 1: there wasn't too much rudd activity there. Um. I did 65 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 1: see one of the younger bucks leave his group of 66 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: dose to go bother a different group of dose, but 67 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 1: they shut him down pretty quickly, so then he moved 68 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 1: back to the group that he had came out of 69 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: this draw with. But it really seemed like mostly the 70 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 1: deer were focused on food. Okay, interesting, Yeah, I haven't 71 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 1: seen anything too too ruddy here in Michigan a little bit. 72 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: I was able to be hunting up in northern Michigan 73 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: this weekend and uh saw some doze and a couple 74 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 1: of bucks, but nothing really going on between them. The 75 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: buck had been spooked um, and the doz was kind 76 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 1: of doing a thing um. And then a lower Michigan 77 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: last night, I did see a bunch of deer um, 78 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: but it was all dose except for one buck, which 79 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: was the one buck I've been after holy Field. Unfortunately 80 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: I was not able to hunt. I was watching from 81 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: from the distance. Um. I just was able to sneak 82 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: over there just in time to catch last light. But he, interestingly, 83 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: when was not with a dough, wasn't chasing any doughs 84 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 1: or anything. He was kind of cruised out by himself 85 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 1: out to this edge of a field, looked around and 86 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 1: then walked down the edge of the field, looped into 87 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:20,720 Speaker 1: some tall grass, and then back in towards the food plot. Um. So, 88 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:23,280 Speaker 1: you know, I think we're kind of reaching that point 89 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 1: where most of the doughs have probably been bred and 90 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: now you just have these occasional few stragglers that are 91 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 1: probably coming into estrus and uh and when those do happen, 92 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: I think the activity will pick up, But I don't 93 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: know if it's going to be anything like it was, 94 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: you know, two weeks ago when it comes to chasing 95 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: and seeking. But I don't know. I guess I'm not 96 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:43,600 Speaker 1: the one to ask about that. You are because you've 97 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:47,119 Speaker 1: been talking to everyone, right. Yeah, Well, this episode again 98 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 1: felt like one from mid October where we were talking 99 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: about how weather driven the deer activity was then, you know, 100 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:56,159 Speaker 1: thanks to the warm weather. But this time it's a 101 00:04:56,160 --> 00:05:00,080 Speaker 1: lot different. We started off talking to Justin Zar in 102 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 1: Illinois with bow hunting dot Com, and he had talked 103 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 1: about how he thinks this a little bit of cold 104 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 1: is going to get the deer moving good again. And 105 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:10,159 Speaker 1: then we went to Jason Reid in New York and 106 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: he was dealing with some t shirt weather like a 107 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: week ago, and then all of a sudden that turned 108 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: into a blizzard and that really shut down the deer 109 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: activity for him. Then we went to Georgia and talked 110 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: to Lindsay Thomas Jr. And he was on the complete 111 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 1: other end of the spectrum. He was talking about how 112 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:27,359 Speaker 1: warm and dry it is down there, and if you 113 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 1: have a good food source right now, like a food 114 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 1: pot that actually survived, or some good water for the deer, 115 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:35,159 Speaker 1: that would be key. And then we went to Mark 116 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: Kaiser in Nebraska from Deer and Deer Hunting TV and 117 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: his report was similar to Jason Reid. He had talked 118 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 1: about how he was hunting in like sixty or seventy 119 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 1: degree weather that then turned into this nasty cold and 120 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 1: wind um. So we're definitely at a point where the 121 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 1: weather is very important that the rut no longer trumps all. Interesting. Well, 122 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: I'm interested to hear uh here what they have to 123 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 1: say about that. And I think this relatively cooler weather 124 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 1: is probably here to stay. Right. I think at least 125 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 1: long term, we're not gonna have any T shirt weather again, 126 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: at least in this part of the country right right. 127 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: But if you are somewhere in the Midwest that just 128 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: got hit with snow, it looks like it won't be 129 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 1: here too much longer. I see in South Dakota, for example, 130 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 1: there's some fifty degree days coming up next week and 131 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 1: then even a little bit of rain today. That blanket 132 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 1: of snow is gonna be gone pretty quickly. Yeah, very true. Well, 133 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:32,359 Speaker 1: I think there's there is running actions still to be had. 134 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: So if you're if you're still out there hunting with 135 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 1: a tag yet to be filled, stay out there, keep 136 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: at it because good things gonna happen. And uh, I 137 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 1: guess with that Spencer, should we get to these interviews 138 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:44,600 Speaker 1: because I know I am, and I'm sure listeners are 139 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 1: curious to hear what the reports have been across country. Yeah, definitely. 140 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: And two weeks ago before we did an episode, I 141 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 1: take down in western South Dakota, and then last week 142 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 1: before episode you take down in Ohio. And then this 143 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 1: week before the episode, I take down eastern South Dakota. 144 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: So we better do more episode next week just so 145 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:03,479 Speaker 1: one of us can punch one more tag. What do 146 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: you think that's true? While I'm actually just about to 147 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: head out to hunt tonight for holy Field, So if 148 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 1: we keep this streak alive, that would be pretty incredible. Well, then, 149 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: I don't even need to wish you luck, so I 150 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: think we know what's going to happen there. All my 151 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: fingers and toes are crossed. But seriously, good luck, Mark, 152 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 1: and quickly before we get to our first update. As 153 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 1: all weird Hunt podcasts are, this episode is brought to 154 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: you by sit Ga Gear. If you'd like to learn 155 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 1: more about Sitka Gears technical hunting apparel, you can visit 156 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: Sitka gear dot com. And now onto the show. Alright, 157 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: and joining me on the line first is Justin Csar, 158 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: the general manager of bow Hunting dot Com. Now, Justin 159 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 1: in Illinois, what would you say the buck activity has 160 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 1: been there on a scale of one to ten, I'd 161 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 1: give it a seven or eight here over the last 162 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 1: few days, you know, we had a cold front moved 163 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: through that finally brought some real cold temperatures. Uh, you know, 164 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 1: the last few days and my trail cameras have been 165 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 1: absolutely blowing up with with some really good uh daylife 166 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: buck activity. And what phase of the route would you 167 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: say we're in then right now? Yeah, I really think 168 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 1: we're kind of tapering off on the back side, you 169 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 1: know of just the rut as a whole um. You know, 170 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: my personal opinion has always been this, you know, fifteen 171 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: through the twenty of the month. Um, I've always felt 172 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 1: like it's been a really good time to to shoot. Dear. 173 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: You know, I've shot a lot of good bucks during 174 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: that time, and I always feel like, you know, the 175 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: bigger deer in my experience, tend to stick more to 176 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 1: their core areas, you know, that early part of the 177 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 1: rut where they're you know, breeding those doughs that are 178 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: that are local to them that they don't have to 179 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 1: travel for. And you know, once they've you know bred 180 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 1: those doughs, and now we start, like I said, getting 181 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: to the tail end of the ruts. This is the 182 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 1: time in my experience where I started getting deer showing 183 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:55,679 Speaker 1: up on my trail cameras that I've never seen before. 184 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: Or maybe I lose some of my bigger bucks for 185 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 1: a couple of days where I feel like they're in 186 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 1: a rome. They're starting to expand there looking for those 187 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:04,959 Speaker 1: last few doughs that are out there. You know, they're 188 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: hot commodity right now, these hot doughs, and you know 189 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 1: the bucks are really looking for him. So you know, 190 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:12,679 Speaker 1: we're definitely tapering off but I think we've got another 191 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 1: few days of you know, pretty good book daylight activity. 192 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 1: I mean I had one of the deer on one 193 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:20,839 Speaker 1: of the farms that I have. It's pushing almost six 194 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 1: hundred acres and I had that deer on four different 195 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 1: trail cameras during daylight. You know, in some cases almost 196 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: a mile away within an hour. I mean he was 197 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: covering some serious ground over the weekend, you know, looking 198 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: for the last few dos. And like, if you're looking 199 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:38,719 Speaker 1: to fill a tag right now, like you said to, 200 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 1: you think is a great time. What are you looking for? 201 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 1: You trying to find does? Are you looking for buck betting? 202 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 1: Is it food source time? Yet? Well? I think the 203 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: you know, the does and the food sources they're starting 204 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 1: to go kind of hand in hand. I mean they're 205 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 1: always pretty much hand in hand, but you know, we're 206 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 1: starting to, at least here in northern Illinois, transition into 207 00:09:57,920 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: some of these later season food sources. A lot of 208 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 1: our crop fields are picked, um, so you know, the 209 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: deer are starting to hit, you know, some of the 210 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: pick fields that they're not killed. They're starting to get 211 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 1: to some of the food plots I'm seeing, you know, 212 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: does are starting to group back up. Um. You know, 213 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 1: a friend of mine that I hunt was saw a 214 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:16,439 Speaker 1: group of six or area doughs together on on Sunday morning, 215 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 1: which we haven't seen for you know, a couple of 216 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: weeks now while they kind of were dispersed during the rut. 217 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 1: So because these dose group back up as they start, 218 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 1: you know, going to those food sources, I think that's 219 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 1: where you're gonna find these bucks, especially in the evenings, 220 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 1: mornings and midday. I think you know, you still can't 221 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: go wrong with with dow betting areas. These bucks are 222 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 1: just cruison around getting on the down wind side of 223 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 1: those betting areas. I've been looking for any hot dose 224 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 1: that are left, So you know that's what I'm gonna 225 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 1: be doing the next couple of days is trying to 226 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 1: key in on, you know, where these doughs are are 227 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: living now, where they're feeding and trying to get in there. 228 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 1: How about in this coming week or so, justin what 229 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: do you think the buck activity is going to be then? 230 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 1: On the scale of one to ten, sure, I think 231 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 1: we're gonna still see a six or seven. I know 232 00:10:57,920 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 1: they've been moving real good. In the last couple of days. 233 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 1: We got cold temperatures. Um, we got another little front 234 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 1: moving through Buddy Mine. Just saw a big buck chase 235 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 1: and does ran out right in front of him on 236 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 1: the road this morning. So I think we've got another 237 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 1: good week of a deer action here in Illinois. Well, 238 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 1: we got to talk about the book that you just 239 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 1: passed on this last week. We have to. We have to. 240 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: And if you haven't seen it yet, go to bow 241 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: hunting dot COM's Facebook page and you'll see the video there. 242 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: You had a ridiculously close encounter there. Why don't you 243 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: tell us about that deer in that hunt? Sure, Well, 244 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: you know the farm that I'm hunting on, that's the 245 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: six acres that I'm talking about. It's in a bow 246 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:39,679 Speaker 1: only area. You know, we're pretty close to the city 247 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:41,959 Speaker 1: of Chicago, so some of the collar counties around the 248 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,959 Speaker 1: city are archery only. There's no gun season, and that 249 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 1: that particular farms in in one of those areas. And 250 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 1: in this deer I have two years of history with 251 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: I know for a fact that he's a three year 252 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 1: old um And like a lot of people out there, 253 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 1: I mean, eventually, at some point in my life I'd 254 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 1: like to kill a big, big deer at lea have 255 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 1: an opportunity to chase one. You know, it seems like 256 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 1: you bounced from farm to farm in place to place 257 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 1: every year. There's always one or two respectable deer around. 258 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 1: But trying to find those those big, you know, world 259 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:12,719 Speaker 1: class type dear, it's a hard thing to do. So 260 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 1: you know, my my hunting partner Mike and I identified 261 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 1: this book has you know, awesome potential. He's probably mid 262 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 1: one fifties, is a three year old, great mass, awesome 263 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 1: broad times. He's just got everything you want, you know, 264 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 1: in potential for an animal. And even though he would 265 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 1: have been my second or maybe the first biggest deer 266 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 1: that I've ever shot with the bow, you know, we 267 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 1: made the decision during the summer, when we had velvet 268 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 1: pictures of him, that we were gonna try to let 269 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 1: him go another year. You know, you're risk the neighbor 270 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:41,839 Speaker 1: shooting him, your risk get hit by a car, e 271 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 1: h d, killed by coyotes. I mean, anyone of a 272 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 1: number of things can can happen to him. But if 273 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 1: you don't pass an animal like that, you know you're 274 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 1: never gonna have an opportunity to chase him. When he's 275 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:54,959 Speaker 1: won seventy one and nineties, so this year has got 276 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 1: the potential to get there. So, man, I tell you, 277 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 1: he walked by me at ten yards on Sunday morning, 278 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 1: and I grabbed my bow only for the purpose of 279 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 1: turning in my tack to Caama to someone with the 280 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:08,680 Speaker 1: back to Cama. I never even gave it a second 281 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 1: thought of of trying to draw back. And you know, 282 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 1: having trail camera pictures of this deer, a multitude of 283 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 1: them for several years, and knowing that I was going 284 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: to pass him if I saw him and certainly made 285 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 1: that decision a lot easier. Um. I got some other 286 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 1: farms with some younger and uh smaller deer that I 287 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 1: probably would shoot. You know, it seems kind of counterintuitive 288 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 1: of the pass at one and go shoot to one thirty. 289 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:34,680 Speaker 1: But that farm, that deer he uh gotta pass. Yeah. Well, 290 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 1: I hope I'm talking to you a year from now 291 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 1: and and he messes up for you, then I hope 292 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:43,079 Speaker 1: so too. Man. I really do think in my interview 293 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 1: that was either the smartest decision I've ever made or 294 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 1: the dumbest decision I've ever made. But we will find 295 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 1: out a year from now. Yeah exactly. Well, good luck 296 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 1: with the rest of your hunting. Thanks for your time 297 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: justin no problem. Thanks Bester, alright and joining me on 298 00:13:57,040 --> 00:14:01,119 Speaker 1: the line. Next is the marketing communications director from Crossman, 299 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: Jason Read Now, Jason in New York, What would you 300 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:07,319 Speaker 1: say that rought activity has been there on a scale 301 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 1: of one to ten, Well, for everyone but me, it 302 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 1: seems to be somewhere around seven or eight. I got 303 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 1: a lot of friends who have had a great, great 304 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 1: couple of weeks, but it's pretty tough for me. But 305 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 1: I know that through the first two weeks, the first 306 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 1: ten days especially, activity was pretty high. A lot of chasing, uh, 307 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 1: classic road activity. But we had a lot of up 308 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 1: and down weather which definitely pushed a lot of things 309 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 1: into the night, you know, into the uh nocturnal stage, 310 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 1: you know, push a lot of bucks nocturnal, a lot 311 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 1: of that classic road activity. And especially we just got 312 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 1: hit with the giant storm here, so that's locked down 313 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 1: a lot of activity. And so in particular in this 314 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 1: last week or so, what stage of the rout do 315 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 1: you think they're in? Uh? In New York area. Oh, 316 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 1: you know, it's kind of interesting because my dad shot 317 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 1: a buck on Thursday, UM, because the sevent and that 318 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: buck was seeking. He was on a trail, so who 319 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 1: does have gone through in the dark, and so he 320 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 1: was up on his feet, you know, following their trail. 321 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 1: I think as the weekend progressed, it seemed and more 322 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: reminiscent maybe some lockdown activity because during you know, an 323 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: opening day a rifle. UM, I saw you two bucks 324 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: that were completely alone. And uh So it's kind of 325 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: hard to say. It seems like, like I said, especially 326 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 1: because they had this giant storm hit have to say 327 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 1: exactly where which staged there at um, because I've seen it, 328 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 1: seen them buck solo to bucks chasing, uh in the 329 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 1: last five days. So talking more about that storm, you 330 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 1: know what was the weather like during that and coming 331 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 1: out of that storm? Now, what do you think that 332 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: will do to the deer activity? Yeah, it was interesting 333 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: because you know, Saturday morning was opening a rifle. Um. 334 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 1: Actually me back up a little bit. So Friday, my dad, UM, 335 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 1: I was sitting for a dough and had a big 336 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 1: you know, hundred thirty eight point UM basically locked down 337 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 1: a dough behind the stand, and so he backed out 338 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: and called me and I took the long way around 339 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 1: into the stand, UM and I sat. I had no 340 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: food I wasn't expecting to fit all day, and so 341 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: I snuck into the tree stand. The deer were only 342 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 1: yards behind me, and I spent you know, close to 343 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 1: eight hours in that tree and they do not move. Um. 344 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 1: And there was sixty degrees out. So we get into 345 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 1: Saturday morning. I walked in my tree stand in my shorts, um. 346 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 1: And the first couple of hours were extremely warm, you know, 347 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 1: when I got to shot a big nine player. Uh. 348 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden the stormhead and we 349 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 1: had winds that were probably between thirty and forty miles 350 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 1: an hour. It got cold and you know, into the 351 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 1: twenties driving uh, snow, and we had trees breaking all out, 352 00:16:57,560 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 1: and I forced the deer and just to bet up. 353 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 1: And so the only way we were able to get 354 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: any action was to push them. Uh. I don't love 355 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: doing pushes, but they work, you know, from this from 356 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 1: a strategic standpoint, and that was really the only way 357 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 1: we're able to do is by scooching, you know, still 358 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 1: hunting and intoing drives. And we jumped up a couple 359 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 1: that will about it up and the you know the 360 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:20,680 Speaker 1: big blowdowns. Um, I think what that's gonna do right now? 361 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:23,160 Speaker 1: For the next couple of days while this storm's coming through. 362 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 1: I think lou deer are gonna be uh. They're really 363 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 1: just gonna sit tight and sitting near food and not 364 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 1: move much until it breaks towards the end of the week. 365 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 1: How about going forward in this next week or still, 366 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: what do you think the bucket activity will be then? Well, 367 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 1: I think, like I said, with the storm breaks, I 368 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 1: think you're gonna see a floorty of activity basically from 369 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: thanks Wednesday through Thanksgiving weekend. I think the activity in 370 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 1: general is just gonna spike because they're gonna be uh, 371 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 1: you know, they're just basically a lockdowns until the storm passes. Uh. 372 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 1: So I think we're gonna see an uptick in all 373 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 1: their activity. I think probably I was a wager closer 374 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 1: to seven or eight on that scale, probably just because 375 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 1: of how bad the storm is right now, I would 376 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: be focusing I'm going to focus on sources going forward. 377 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:13,639 Speaker 1: All right, Jason, Well, I hope your season turns around 378 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 1: for you then, and good luck with the rest of 379 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 1: the year. Thanks for your time, Thank you, Spencer, alright, 380 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:23,359 Speaker 1: and joining me on the line next is Lindsay Thomas, 381 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:27,360 Speaker 1: the communications director of q D m A now Lindsay 382 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:30,200 Speaker 1: and Northern Georgia. What would you say the buck activity 383 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 1: has been there on a scale of one to ten 384 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 1: in this last week or so since I will say 385 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 1: four and so four that's that's pretty low. It seems 386 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:43,399 Speaker 1: like is that normal for this time of year there, No, 387 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 1: it is definitely low. I mean in the middle of 388 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:49,679 Speaker 1: North Georgia right now, you know, uh, in the around 389 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:54,439 Speaker 1: mid November into the twenties of November is normally a 390 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:57,640 Speaker 1: great time of year. But we've got a lot of 391 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 1: sort of I don't know, unfortunate and conditions right now, 392 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 1: between warmer than normal temperatures, a superabundant acorn crop, and 393 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: a severe drought throughout most of the state, which is 394 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 1: true throughout most of the southeast right now. You know, 395 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:17,400 Speaker 1: you combine all that, um, food plots are pretty much dead, 396 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 1: acorns are abundant wherever deer go, and it's just been 397 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 1: warm and it's just created a tough hunting conditions out there. 398 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:27,679 Speaker 1: The rut, of course, is still happening. Um, you know, 399 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 1: it always does happen in any location the typical time 400 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,879 Speaker 1: it normally happens, and those are still getting bread. But 401 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 1: folks that I'm talking to and myself included, just are 402 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 1: not seeing the daytime activity for by any deer. What 403 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 1: little is being seen right now is younger bucks that 404 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: are trailing those or maybe doing a little chasing. But 405 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 1: for the most part, um, it is you know, buy 406 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 1: and large. Everybody I know and and my hunting experience 407 00:19:57,119 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 1: is it is a slow season right now. Well that's 408 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:03,439 Speaker 1: that's tough to hear. But what kind of adjustments do 409 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:06,199 Speaker 1: you think that hunters can make knowing that that you know, 410 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 1: the food sources are different right now and it's dry 411 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 1: and warm. Well, it's just they're just gonna have to 412 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:15,400 Speaker 1: make sure they don't fall back on their favorite old 413 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 1: stands or patterns that they that worked for them in 414 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 1: the past. Particularly, you know a lot of folks who 415 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 1: that I know who are used to go in and 416 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 1: climbing a stand over their favorite food plot every year. 417 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,400 Speaker 1: This time of year, just can't do that. The food 418 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 1: plots literally are dust. Um, and that's true in Georgia, Alabama. Uh, 419 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 1: you know, in the Mississippi up in the Tennessee, just 420 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 1: severe drought conditions right now. Now coastal George is a 421 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 1: little better off because uh, Florida coast to Georgia, coast 422 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 1: of South Carolina. We all got a dose of rain 423 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:46,919 Speaker 1: when Hurricane Matthew came through back in October, and that 424 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 1: has pretty much saved the food plots in those areas. 425 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:52,639 Speaker 1: But for most of the states of Georgia and the 426 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:56,159 Speaker 1: rest of the Southeast, food plots are gone. They're non issue, 427 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 1: and there's not even enough moisture for anybody to try 428 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:01,920 Speaker 1: to replant build and none in the forecast. So um 429 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 1: going to a food plot or you know, hunting patterns 430 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:06,199 Speaker 1: that were based around food plots this year is just 431 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:09,160 Speaker 1: out of you know, don't do it. Um. And then 432 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,920 Speaker 1: you know, we know that in the year with a 433 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 1: bundant acorn crops like we've got this year in in 434 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 1: most of Georgia, and I'm hearing that in a lot 435 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 1: of country too, but in Georgia, you know, the fact 436 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 1: is when you have a high acorn crop, you're gonna 437 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:24,120 Speaker 1: have a low deer harvest because dear just apparently don't 438 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 1: move as much and they don't have to find the food. 439 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 1: So you know, you're you're you can't go to places 440 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 1: where you you are used to seeing a lot of 441 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 1: deer movement because deer just are not roaming that much. 442 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 1: The does are not having to roam that much, and 443 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: therefore the bucks don't have to roam that much to 444 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 1: find them. So I would say, you know, go to 445 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:42,920 Speaker 1: areas you don't normally hunt. I would say, stick to 446 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 1: thicker cover. Um. Certainly look for areas that are where 447 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 1: there are acorns, but that's not going to guarantee uh 448 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 1: sightings and dear activity this year. Um. So I would say, 449 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 1: you know, go to those sticker areas, go to those 450 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: areas with less pressure, um, and and try something new, 451 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 1: change anything up, don't go all back on old patterns, 452 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 1: and particularly not food plots. Say get in the woods. 453 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 1: I mean it's it's warm. You know, we are having 454 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 1: tough conditions and right now it's warmer than normal. We're 455 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 1: finally getting a little cool weather now. But get in 456 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 1: the woods because we like we know, um, the rut 457 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:18,399 Speaker 1: is still happening, deer are still getting bread, so you 458 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:20,439 Speaker 1: can't you know, take advantage of that if you're not 459 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 1: out there. Absolutely, And with that said, what phase of 460 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:25,159 Speaker 1: the route would you say we're in right now in 461 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 1: northern Georgia and coastal Georgia, well, coastal Georgia. We're pretty 462 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:31,120 Speaker 1: much post rut now at this point, and that's where 463 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 1: I do most my hunting. Our rut peaks in the 464 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,640 Speaker 1: breeding dates peak and laid out cover into early November. 465 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,680 Speaker 1: Uh and and it kind of as you move north 466 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 1: through Middle Georgia and up into North Georgia, it runs later. Um, 467 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:46,880 Speaker 1: generally mid November two. Right now, Thanksgiving week is very 468 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,719 Speaker 1: good time right now in in middle of North Georgia. 469 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:51,640 Speaker 1: So you know, over the next week, if we hold 470 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 1: some of these cooler temperatures, maybe gets a little bit colder. Um, 471 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 1: I think that Thanksgiving we could be very good. And 472 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 1: certainly people are still seeing some bucks. You're still seeing 473 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,639 Speaker 1: some good bucks killed out there. That's gonna happen, you know, 474 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 1: any year. But but most everybody I know is just saying, 475 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:08,920 Speaker 1: you know, we're just not seeing the amount of activity 476 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:10,399 Speaker 1: were used to. I know a lot of people that 477 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: have said very tough seasons. So, um, it's still got 478 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 1: some good times ahead in in the middle of North 479 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 1: Georgia over the next week to two weeks. And then 480 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 1: you know, as you get down into Southwest Georgia, uh, 481 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:22,159 Speaker 1: it gets later, we get a little bit of that 482 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 1: kind of Alabama action where the ruts fills over into 483 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:30,199 Speaker 1: December and then even into January. So, um, we're kind 484 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,679 Speaker 1: of all over the map. But for most Georgia hunters 485 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:34,440 Speaker 1: that you know, we've still got a good week two 486 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,199 Speaker 1: weeks of of what could be a good right activity ahead. 487 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:39,399 Speaker 1: And let's put that on a scale of one to ten, 488 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 1: what do you think the bucket activity is going to 489 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 1: be there and around that Thanksgiving time frame? Um, it'll 490 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 1: be a little pessimistic, um Spencer. And I'm gonna say 491 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 1: a six, because even though if it gets cooler, we've 492 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 1: still got the acorn factor, we've still got the drought factor. Um, 493 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 1: We've still got these unfortunate conditions that are really changing 494 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 1: up the way uh deer or moving and and and 495 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,880 Speaker 1: at least in response to patterns we normally expect them 496 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 1: to hold too. So I'm not optimistic that it's gonna 497 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,920 Speaker 1: blush wide open and everybody's gonna be seeing all the 498 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 1: rud activity. I mean I'm seeing, you know, we're seeing 499 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:17,440 Speaker 1: those and deer in the ditch of highways, which shows 500 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,640 Speaker 1: me they're moving that just maybe not moving um during 501 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 1: daylight hours or in places we normally expect them to move, 502 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 1: so the ruts happening. Um, I don't expect it to 503 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 1: suddenly become you know, red hot over the next week, 504 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 1: but I think, um, you know, getting later in the year, 505 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 1: two more uh cooler nights like we haven't been having 506 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 1: hopefully on the way. Um we'll say, we'll say it's 507 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 1: gonna be up six over the next week, right, lendsy Well, 508 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 1: I doubt that you are, but I hope you're wrong. Uh, 509 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 1: you know, for the case of those southeastern haunts, I 510 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,360 Speaker 1: do too. I hope everybody gets a nine or two, 511 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 1: and myself included definitely. Thanks for joining me, Lindsay. Okay, Spencer, 512 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:01,199 Speaker 1: thanks so much for calling all right and joining us 513 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 1: on the line. Last is outdoor writer and co host 514 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:08,400 Speaker 1: of Deer and Deer Hunting TV Mark Kaiser. Now Mark 515 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:10,919 Speaker 1: in Nebraska, what would you say the bucket activity has 516 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 1: been there on a scale of one to ten for 517 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:16,679 Speaker 1: this last week or so? Well on the property I 518 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 1: was hunting, which is in southwest Nebraska close to the 519 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:23,400 Speaker 1: Kansas border, I would say it was probably a six 520 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 1: or a seven. It wasn't off the charts, but it 521 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 1: definitely was active. And the reason I rated just a 522 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 1: little bit lower is what I said. The property. After 523 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 1: getting on this particular property, I noticed that the deer 524 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 1: we're bunching up on a neighboring property. And it all 525 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:47,959 Speaker 1: came down to one big reason, and that was food. 526 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 1: That other landowner had dumped a ton of water on 527 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 1: his uh winter we eat and I think he had 528 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 1: winter weet nol falfa, so he had irrigated it. It's 529 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 1: been a warm fall all uh, there's been a lot 530 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,120 Speaker 1: of growth going on, and the deer were bunching up 531 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 1: on that side of the river, on that side of 532 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: the property, and we were just getting residual traffic because 533 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 1: of that on the property we were hunting. And so 534 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 1: what phase of the route would you then say we're 535 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 1: that we're in, Well, the phase of the rut at 536 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,360 Speaker 1: this point, and when I was in Nebraska just three 537 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 1: days ago is definitely peak breeding. They're breeding a few effects, 538 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:28,400 Speaker 1: some of them are wrapped up. Some of these doors 539 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 1: are actually going back to their fons regrouping. But the 540 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:38,360 Speaker 1: the lockdown period, as many people like to describe it, 541 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 1: is probably on the way out right now. Lockdown was 542 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,160 Speaker 1: just a few days ago. A lot of the dolls 543 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 1: are beginning to move back to their family groups. Like 544 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 1: I said, pick up their fons again. So you're gonna 545 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,919 Speaker 1: see some of these older bucks cruise a little bit more, 546 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:56,160 Speaker 1: a little bit further. And one of the things over 547 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:58,440 Speaker 1: my I don't even want to say how many years 548 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:00,680 Speaker 1: I've been hunting so it will age me. But over 549 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 1: my many years hunting I see is that Thanksgiving, particularly 550 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:09,360 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving Day, because I hunt a lot of Thanksgiving Day, 551 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:13,120 Speaker 1: those older bucks will do a little more cruising and 552 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:18,200 Speaker 1: leaving their safetons, leaving their sanctuaries. So you may pick 553 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 1: up the buck for lifetime that you've never seen before 554 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:24,159 Speaker 1: in the next three, four or five six days because 555 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 1: he's trying to get that one last dough bread and 556 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 1: he'll leave his home territory to do it this time 557 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 1: of year. Then would you say that there are any 558 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 1: calling techniques that are effective? You know, calls can work 559 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,640 Speaker 1: any time during the run. But what I find as 560 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:43,439 Speaker 1: the as the rutting and the breading lines down, is 561 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 1: these bigger bucks, especially become less susceptible to calling over Thanksgiving. 562 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 1: I've spent a lot of time in Montana, which seems 563 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,160 Speaker 1: to be one of the places I end up always 564 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 1: at Thanksgiving hunting you know, a couple of days before 565 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 1: over Thanksgiving, a couple of days after and what I 566 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,119 Speaker 1: usually end up rattling in at that time and calling 567 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 1: in our three and a half year olds. It just 568 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,159 Speaker 1: seems like they're you know, they're supercharged there. They're the 569 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 1: rock and rollers of the white tailed world. Four and 570 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 1: a half year olds to some extent too, But you're 571 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 1: just calling in more of those younger deer. It's rare 572 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 1: to call in a big mature deer. He's tired. Uh, 573 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 1: he doesn't want to fight, he's just looking for a 574 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,439 Speaker 1: little bit of love, and he's looking for some food. 575 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 1: Starting to think about food and the winter ahead. Now 576 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 1: that area that you were in, the weather it could 577 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 1: be pretty variable there this time. You imagine you could 578 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,640 Speaker 1: have a seventy degree day or you could have a blizzard. 579 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 1: Um at this phase of the road, do you think 580 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 1: that factors into buck movement? Oh? Absolutely it does. But 581 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 1: at the same time, they're they're wanting to go out 582 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 1: and breed. So we had that exact scenario when I 583 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 1: was in the breast, but we started out hunting in 584 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 1: temperatures that were in the sixties. It maybe got seventy 585 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 1: the first day I was there, but the last day 586 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 1: I was there, it actually or the second last day, 587 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 1: it's snowed and temperatures are down around twenty and then 588 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 1: we stayed. The next morning I had to drive to Montana, 589 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 1: but we stayed for one morning and it was twelve degrees. 590 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:11,959 Speaker 1: And on that twelve degree morning, which would have been 591 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 1: the nineteen of November, there was just a lot of 592 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 1: movement going on right then. So yes, those those white tailbucks, 593 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 1: you just gotta remember and does are wearing their parkas 594 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 1: at this time of the year. They cannot predict if 595 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:30,719 Speaker 1: we're gonna have an over, uh you know, a warm 596 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 1: fall over above average warmth, but they that they always 597 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,719 Speaker 1: plan for cold, so they grow that park they have 598 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 1: to wear it. And if you get sixty degree temperatures especially, 599 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 1: it gets uncomfortable for them to move, so they'll lay 600 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 1: down a lot more then than they will when it's 601 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 1: thirty forty and even into the little fifties. I think 602 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 1: I've seen some stuff around fifty five degrees. Once it 603 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 1: gets above that is when the deer traffic starts going 604 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 1: down because they're just too hot. What about going forward 605 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 1: then in that area, what do you think the bucket 606 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 1: activity will be there on this next week or so. 607 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 1: On the scale of one to ten, you're you're gonna 608 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 1: definitely see it going down, And so I would say 609 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 1: it's probably I'd say it's rated out of five now. 610 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 1: Not only uh is it going to go down because 611 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 1: of the uh the rut is winding down, but also 612 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 1: because there's been so much hunting pressure. You know, these 613 00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 1: these deer have been hunted one way, shape or another 614 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 1: in many of these areas of the Midwest central part 615 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 1: of the United States from September on and the guns 616 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 1: season just wrapped up on Sunday in Nebraska, which you've 617 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 1: been asking me about, so they got they had a 618 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 1: nine day season. Those deer got chased. In Montana, Ara'm 619 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 1: at now, these deer have been hunted with bow and 620 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 1: arrows since September and guns since the third week of October. 621 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 1: So they've had a month of hard rifle hunting on them. 622 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 1: That makes a big difference, and I'm seeing it right 623 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 1: now here in Montana. These deer do not want to 624 00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 1: come out on these fields until the last five to 625 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 1: ten minutes of light. The big bucks they come out 626 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 1: and they'll chase, but they're not They're just not cruising 627 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 1: in the open. I'm sure they're doing it in these 628 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 1: timbered bottoms. We just I've been a little bit uh 629 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 1: leary about going into some of it because I'm just 630 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 1: new to this area. It's a new area of hunting, 631 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 1: so I haven't really I felt like I had a 632 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 1: knowledge to go in and tear it up in the timber. 633 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 1: But they're definitely not coming out on the fields until 634 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 1: the last few minutes of shooting light. Right. Well, that's 635 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 1: some great intel, Mark, and thanks to your time and 636 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 1: good look for the rest of the season. All right, 637 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 1: thank you and good hunting everyone. And that concludes this 638 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 1: week's episode of Wired Hunt's Radio. 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