Speaker 1: Give me my rushmore rappers. You're greater, your greatest four
Speaker 1: rappers of all.
Speaker 2: Time, no particular order. Fifty cent Lil Wayne Tupac and me.
Speaker 3: You the first. You want a shot? Yeah, you take
Speaker 3: me right here. I got got I got in me
Speaker 3: for Joe for Shore. Fifty cent Little Wayne Tupac and me.
Speaker 1: You're the first of all the people that I've had
Speaker 1: in here. And I've had a lot of comedians, a
Speaker 1: lot of slabs in here. You're doing the one that
Speaker 1: ever put yourself on.
Speaker 3: My rough back. Oh man, I got to. You know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I got to and I'm willing to demonstrate that's the
Speaker 2: difference you are. I call myself. I've been calling myself
Speaker 2: the best for a while now, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: And that's not to say that's how everybody should feel
Speaker 2: about whatever it is they do. That's the first step
Speaker 2: you did, you know what I'm saying, But gotta believe it.
Speaker 2: But that second step is being able to Yeah, if
Speaker 2: that's tested, you know what I'm saying, be able to
Speaker 2: follow through with it.
Speaker 3: I love to You know what I mean.
Speaker 2: I love to and I love I love the uh
Speaker 2: to go up against some iron and be and be
Speaker 2: sharpened or be or to be shown that you ain't
Speaker 2: sharp enough.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Get get right. I love to know who I know.
Speaker 2: I find out this comforting that who would you like
Speaker 2: to jump on the feature with that? You haven't been
Speaker 2: on one with that? I haven't been on one yet.
Speaker 2: Kendrick Lamar Okay, kense Lamar, Drake the best, anybody who
Speaker 2: considers themselves the best.
Speaker 3: I love to bro. That's what I'm all about, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean, That's what I'm all about.
Speaker 2: And I'm gonna do something. You're gonna you know, they
Speaker 2: know when a nigga got it like that too. See
Speaker 2: that's the thing, like they know little yo, little yachiya.
Speaker 2: He said that your verse on jail was better than holes.
Speaker 3: It was. You heard both of them. I don't want
Speaker 3: to get a come on to you a straight shooter.
Speaker 1: I tell you who over here. I'm trying to get
Speaker 1: ahold of a straight shooter. I'm gonna ask you that
Speaker 1: once I get him over here. I just said, I
Speaker 1: just saw you.
Speaker 2: You just got on brawn because he said, if you
Speaker 2: adn't go to Miami, you are that. So you're gonna
Speaker 2: let you're gonna let jay Z slide jay Z real talk.
Speaker 3: You know, jay Z, you know what I got that?
Speaker 3: But respect for you check this side? Is your verse
Speaker 3: better than mine? You know what?
Speaker 2: Was your verse better than mine? Come on, come on,
Speaker 2: o G, come on you. I mean it wasn't you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. I'm it wasn't, no G and
Speaker 2: it is. That's okay, we ain't do it at the
Speaker 2: same time.
Speaker 3: But man, you know what I'm saying. It ain't like me,
Speaker 3: you know, it ain't.
Speaker 2: It ain't like you had the ability to be able
Speaker 2: to say, Okay, now hold on, let me let me
Speaker 2: do it over.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we did it in two different two different times,
Speaker 3: but definitely.
Speaker 1: So but you But but do you know, let's just say,
Speaker 1: for the sake of argument, you jump on the feature
Speaker 1: with somebody and they got two other two other guys,
Speaker 1: three other people on that thing.
Speaker 3: You don't know when they're gonna do there. It didn't
Speaker 3: happened to me before.
Speaker 2: You give what I'm saying, like I didn't like to
Speaker 2: wear Okay, somebody send me a song. I'm just thinking,
Speaker 2: okay boo, and they just sending me this song, you know,
Speaker 2: and and in every and in every situation. It ain't
Speaker 2: competition the oh. The end goal is to make the best,
Speaker 2: the best song possible.
Speaker 3: You get, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Like you know your end goal is to make the
Speaker 2: best song possible. But you know when you when you
Speaker 2: got if you know you got the opportunity to compete
Speaker 2: with with people who skill set you didn't, You didn't
Speaker 2: looked up to you know what I mean, for decades
Speaker 2: or whatever what have you. If you know you in
Speaker 2: the room with the best, you know you gotta come
Speaker 2: with your best, right, you get what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So that's also a thing too. But we wasn't in
Speaker 3: the room. We wasn't.
Speaker 2: He had no knowledge of me. But his song, his
Speaker 2: version of the song was already out or whatever. And
Speaker 2: you know, to my defense, I didn't listen to his
Speaker 2: version of the song and then go do my verse
Speaker 2: like Kanye just said this one right here, you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, And yeah, he really gave me a
Speaker 2: couple of them to do.
Speaker 3: I recorded that.
Speaker 2: In the middle of a warehouse on a on a cart,
Speaker 2: had a studio set up on the cart mm hm.
Speaker 3: But definitely and like that.
Speaker 2: Recording and probably like like ten minutes, didn't write a word,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, And it was just like that, Yeah,
Speaker 2: for sure for shore for show.
Speaker 3: But I definitely feel like my verse, my verse. But
Speaker 3: when you jump on you jump on a feature, are
Speaker 3: you trying? Are you trying to go hard? Are you trying?
Speaker 2: Because there's compete hurting songs for show? Yeah, yeah, they competitive,
Speaker 2: they competitive this kick in for sure, like the like
Speaker 2: on the UH, I got a song with Ja Cole
Speaker 2: because there was another person I would have mentioned, he
Speaker 2: would have been at the top of that list I
Speaker 2: want to do.
Speaker 3: And I was gonna mention that I want to do
Speaker 3: more work with Ja.
Speaker 2: Cole Helly, especially with its boat being from North Carolina,
Speaker 2: like I love to whatever. Hopefully you know this right
Speaker 2: here sparks the conversation and we can move towards that.
Speaker 2: But I got and it's a lot of people like
Speaker 2: like one of their favorite verses for me. People come
Speaker 2: up to me and tell me all the time, I'm
Speaker 2: running the people in Travick under the sun.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean? That got me j Cole
Speaker 3: on it. Another dude from Charlotte named Luke Luke West.
Speaker 2: But a lot of people, you know, they did that
Speaker 2: verse not when Cole sent me that and they like, Okay,
Speaker 2: yeah Cold wants you on the song. Yeah you know
Speaker 2: I'm yeah, I'm coming with Okay now I'm coming like
Speaker 2: this on this song.
Speaker 3: I know how I'm coming on this song.
Speaker 2: You get what I'm saying because I know who I'm Hey, look,
Speaker 2: i know who I'm getting in bed with.
Speaker 3: You get know what I'm saying. I gotta be I
Speaker 3: gotta you know, so gotta come ready to play.
Speaker 2: Somebody say they say songs, I don't want to do
Speaker 2: people like that. So if I'm on the song with
Speaker 2: a certain type of artists and it's you know they
Speaker 2: style ain't really because I'm I mean, I'm I'm I
Speaker 2: like to think of myself without being here sound like
Speaker 2: I'm too my own horn.
Speaker 3: But I'm very aware that I'm versatile. You know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I could dumb it down and make everybody I can
Speaker 2: make together women.
Speaker 3: Put their hands on the knees, make it, get it
Speaker 3: with and put the hand.
Speaker 2: Or I can get on Lauren, He'll be you get
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, and make the Aunties say, boy, don't
Speaker 2: play with that boy like he You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: He liked that, So you know, it's kind of like
Speaker 2: I got that going on, but I don't. I don't
Speaker 2: utilize that like I take advantage of that. I don't
Speaker 2: take advantage of that, taking advantage of it to be
Speaker 2: getting on the song where that ain't caused for and
Speaker 2: going outside of the vibe that's already.
Speaker 3: Set with it.
Speaker 2: You coming to get a feature for me going outside
Speaker 2: the vibe and the groundwork that's already set. Getting off topic,
Speaker 2: off off you know what I mean. I wanted to
Speaker 2: be cohesive and a and a piece of work.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I don't want it to sound like I came in
Speaker 2: here to compete with somebody who is a fan of
Speaker 2: me to be able to ask me to you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, take part in what they got going on. Nah,
Speaker 2: they coming to do that because they take a liking
Speaker 2: to me or some sort of You feel like I'm
Speaker 2: trying to take your head off. You ain't gonna come.
Speaker 2: You ain't coming back, right, You ain't come on now
Speaker 2: if you if you called me to come play football,
Speaker 2: I ain't gonna think you're trying to come run me over.
Speaker 2: And if we get out there and that's what you doing. Nah, bro,
Speaker 2: this ain't what I can This ain't what that came for,
Speaker 2: you know. So we ain't if we go out there
Speaker 2: right now throwing football around, you ain't finna take not
Speaker 2: line up in front of me.
Speaker 3: Now we ain't. I ain't playing with you. Ain't gonna
Speaker 3: do me like that, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 3: it's that type of thing. Man, You're gonna keep it
Speaker 3: within them.
Speaker 2: You're gonna keep it within the space where we can
Speaker 2: have the best the best performance cohesively, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 3: So I don't do that.
Speaker 2: Like certain times, I scale back when I know I can,
Speaker 2: like I can take over the whole song, like I'm
Speaker 2: not about to play like that, Like that ain't what
Speaker 2: I'm in it for, you know what I mean. But
Speaker 2: other times, when it's artists that love that, like their competitiveness.
Speaker 3: And that you know, yeah and yeah and and and
Speaker 3: what they bring.
Speaker 2: To the table, it commands that, then yeah, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: rise to the occasion every time.
Speaker 1: Like callis on. God, did he got Wross? I got weezy,
Speaker 1: He's got hold right. So I got okay, baby, I
Speaker 1: got this feature right. And let me tell you who
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you who's only right now I'm coming.
Speaker 3: I got with you.
Speaker 2: I would have walked a mile and a half Ross
Speaker 2: Weezy whole Drake Cole that had to tell me, boy,
Speaker 2: the song over stop rapping. The people have went out,
Speaker 2: I have still been going. I'm gonna make them say
Speaker 2: when you turn on this go off boy, that boy
Speaker 2: I'm here to play. I'm gonna make him say that.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna make him say, damn, he just is wraw.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. He just is wrong, if
Speaker 3: not more than than the company that he's in.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Like, and that's what I'm
Speaker 2: supposed to do. You know what I mean as a man,
Speaker 2: as a person, as an artist. That's what you're supposed
Speaker 2: to do.
Speaker 1: Since you've been in the game for a minute, Now,
Speaker 1: what's some of your what's one of your best purchase
Speaker 1: in one of your worst purchases?
Speaker 3: Best purchases?
Speaker 2: Uh, my best purchase is I had to say that
Speaker 2: the the ten Naka state that I own that I
Speaker 2: bought flat.
Speaker 3: Out, which is worthwave mo. Now.
Speaker 2: Uh worst purchases, I got a lot of them. I
Speaker 2: got a lot and what and and I won't even
Speaker 2: call my my home that I own my my best purchase.
Speaker 2: I call that my best purchase just because it's it's tangible,
Speaker 2: it's something I can I can immediately get to my
Speaker 2: kids right now, you get what I'm saying, and let
Speaker 2: them decide to do what they want to do with it,
Speaker 2: what have you. But I think I think my best
Speaker 2: the best way I spent my money was investing in myself, reinvesting.
Speaker 2: That's something I've been doing from them from the get go,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. That's where majority of my bread,
Speaker 2: that the bread I have spent, I spent it right
Speaker 2: back in just reinvesting in myself, right and you know,
Speaker 2: and exploring different areas, you know what I'm saying, in
Speaker 2: different fields that I that I feel like I got
Speaker 2: the ability to operate in. But worst purchase got to be.
Speaker 3: Ship. It might be investing in others. They might be
Speaker 3: hand in hand, that might not be that.
Speaker 2: Complex of a question at all, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: And investing in but I don't even I wouldn't even
Speaker 2: call that, you know what I mean, bad, a bad investment,
Speaker 2: because you know that's that's who I am as a person,
Speaker 2: right You give know what I'm saying, Like, that's just
Speaker 2: who I am as a person. I never I don't
Speaker 2: think I could ever change that. It's as much as
Speaker 2: invite me in my ass. I don't think that's something
Speaker 2: I can get away from it still feel fulfilled, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean.
Speaker 3: As a person. Did you really on the private jet? No?
Speaker 3: I was. I had that on my I had that
Speaker 3: was so yeah, at the end.
Speaker 2: Of whatever year that all the drama tip of twenty
Speaker 2: twenty one, I was definitely gonna give me a private jet.
Speaker 3: I already had thirty million on the schedule. Not to mention.
Speaker 2: The the the boy about the hunted that would have
Speaker 2: came around. I was definitely buying me one. I would
Speaker 2: buy me when I'll be seeing you in oo go
Speaker 2: back for that's my dog too. That's every time I
Speaker 2: run into it. He really liked that too. Now I
Speaker 2: done ran into him at the mirrorge store, like, what's
Speaker 2: going on in I had this off and on to today,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna buy another one. I had this old since Thursday.
Speaker 2: I'm like real quick playing, I'm serious, I'm serious, But nah,
Speaker 2: I definitely had plans on doing that still do I'm
Speaker 2: like you man, I look, I worked too. I work
Speaker 2: hard now, Yeah, I ain't trying to shoes off, I
Speaker 2: take my laptop out the bag.
Speaker 1: I don't mind that, but I don't, you know, like
Speaker 1: I'm practical. But what I tell yo, I'm doing all
Speaker 1: this hard work and I get the least enjoyment out
Speaker 1: of you.
Speaker 3: See what I'm saying. We got to balance it out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, somewhere on Yeah, somewhere along the line that got
Speaker 2: to be balanced out.
Speaker 1: I read that you took your grill out because you
Speaker 1: wanted to be more commercial.
Speaker 2: Not even wanted to be more commercial, just got just
Speaker 2: got tired of it. And I didn't always have a
Speaker 2: pretty st grew out of it here. Yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 2: was just over that, you know what I'm saying. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I was over there. You get two though, But that
Speaker 2: was definitely one of the things like where I was
Speaker 2: able to take it, where I was blessed enough to
Speaker 2: be able to take it to with them the first
Speaker 2: twelve months of my mainstream career.
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, it was timing. It was time to you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you mentioned to scare you off when I smiled,
Speaker 2: I want you to be like, damn.
Speaker 1: Man, I'm looking your north Carolina State. You got a
Speaker 1: football field, basketball court, swimming pools, guard towers, concrete walls.
Speaker 3: Yes, sir, your neighbors complained, Yes, sir, when they complained
Speaker 3: to this, you know what I mean, helped doing it
Speaker 3: bigger than them. What was going on? Who is there?
Speaker 3: Who is there? Why we can't come over? No, that's why.
Speaker 3: That's why, you know what I mean. It's for me,
Speaker 3: my kids, more people, this thing, you know, it's all good.
Speaker 2: I came out here for peace. I wouldn't even came
Speaker 2: out here, you know what I mean. If I wanted
Speaker 2: to be in the mix. I have people in my business,
Speaker 2: I would have gotten a mix. That's easy, right, you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. I came to get away from
Speaker 2: the mix. But they definitely wanted to be out of there.
Speaker 3: Oh normal. They just they just left me alone. They
Speaker 3: just left me alone, just left me alone. What made
Speaker 3: you decide to stay in your hometown? My kids?
Speaker 2: It's the only if I wasn't, if I wasn't the
Speaker 2: type of the father that refused you give what I'm
Speaker 2: saying up and even out of ping on, I left
Speaker 2: before I popped, right, you know what I'm saying, And
Speaker 2: came back you know what I'm saying. I left it
Speaker 2: and yeah, and took me, me, my baby, mama and
Speaker 2: my daughter.
Speaker 3: We came to La.
Speaker 2: We came out here before I popped, maybe in twenty seventeen,
Speaker 2: moved to Cold Turkey.
Speaker 3: You get what I'm saying. And I've been trying to
Speaker 3: get on from now.
Speaker 2: And they don't welcome success where I'm from. But I
Speaker 2: never one of the points I touched on the beginning,
Speaker 2: like they don't. You know, it ain't you can't. You
Speaker 2: can't be a black man and be successful. That's that's
Speaker 2: too foreign to them, right, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: And they ain't trying to make it become you know, domestic.
Speaker 2: They don't want to get used to that. You see
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. They don't, don't.
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 2: That ain't something I can Yeah, I could put a
Speaker 2: finger on you know, as the wise, it's like that.
Speaker 3: But that's what it is when I'm from.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Because I'm thinking it's like when we see so
Speaker 1: many people from their hometown and you would think everybody's like, man,
Speaker 1: he from a hometown, he do it, he doing it big.
Speaker 3: But it seems like they hate even more. Yeah, especially
Speaker 3: where I'm from. That's just how it go, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean?
Speaker 1: You see what happened to I forget the target my
Speaker 1: head in Memphis put a target on your back.
Speaker 2: But why look, you know, you in a position that
Speaker 2: there's so many people that they seeking. You know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying, like, I don't know, there's something that's a
Speaker 2: whole that's the whole thing.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: You have to you have to move differently cityways I
Speaker 2: had to before before you know what I mean, I
Speaker 2: popped as an artist, so and and that's kind of
Speaker 2: like how I navigate through this.
Speaker 3: That's why a lot of.
Speaker 2: The things like that I that I've been able to
Speaker 2: navigate through that I done had to navigate through since
Speaker 2: I done been in the in the mainstream music business.
Speaker 3: It's like cake to meat, bro because it's you know,
Speaker 3: this is.
Speaker 2: What I'm from. Like where I'm from, everybody hating on you.
Speaker 2: So so when it when it was that time where
Speaker 2: everybody loved me, everybody loved it, everybody loved the baby,
Speaker 2: I ain't trusted. I'm looking like man, yeah right, I
Speaker 2: had a straight face. You get what I'm saying. I
Speaker 2: you know, I still you don't know how to network
Speaker 2: know how to move around whatever. But it's like you know,
Speaker 2: when when when things did take a turn and everybody
Speaker 2: jump ship.
Speaker 3: That's why I didn't respond. That's why I didn't panic.
Speaker 2: That's why I didn't because you didn't trust what it
Speaker 2: was all good it was. I knew that was I
Speaker 2: knew that was due to happen. You get them at
Speaker 2: some particular point for whatever reason. You get what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I knew, you know what I mean, that was due
Speaker 2: to happen. I'm so used to that. What was what
Speaker 2: I had, what I was having trouble growing used to
Speaker 2: was the the love you know what I'm saying, and
Speaker 2: the you know, and and just the yeah, the admiration.
Speaker 3: But it's it's like that in Charlotte.
Speaker 2: Like I can go, you know, across the country, put
Speaker 2: ten thousand people in this arena for Charlotte artist, you
Speaker 2: beat and put ten thousand people in arena somewhere else.
Speaker 3: You come to Charlotte just because you from Charlotte. Boy,
Speaker 3: you'd be lucky. You get a thighs. That's that's Charlotte.
Speaker 2: That's that's what it is. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: That's all the way around the board. That's from the people,
Speaker 2: to the police, to everybody.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: Like once they learned, oh I'm about I signed a
Speaker 2: major deal, they pulling us over, dressed like us, blue
Speaker 2: jeans on everywhere we go, pulling us over, searching the
Speaker 2: whole car.
Speaker 3: They were trying to build a case.
Speaker 2: The second Dicky, they realized, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: I had, I had, you know, uh went into another
Speaker 2: another bracket financially, you know what I'm saying, along with
Speaker 2: just already being a black man from Charlotte. I guess
Speaker 2: they felt like that was a dangerous combination and or
Speaker 2: they like, get get it away.
Speaker 3: From over here, go go somewhere else. Moved to l A,
Speaker 3: mood to Atlanta. But you moved l A and you
Speaker 3: got arrested. I love about it. Man.
Speaker 2: I ain't moved at LA when I got arrested on rodeo. Man,
Speaker 2: I was in the car with it, and he was
Speaker 2: supposed to that was his gun. You ain't take your
Speaker 2: charge for your gun.
Speaker 3: Man, the long long time potner mine until he dead
Speaker 3: ass wrong man, that was he. He made you eat it.
Speaker 3: You He didn't say that. He know how this go.
Speaker 2: So when you don't say nothing, they gonna charge everybody
Speaker 2: with it, but not when you got a wrap in
Speaker 2: the car. Oh no, that's he that's his you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. So he's hold on your your partner.
Speaker 2: He's gonna make me get back mad by this.
Speaker 1: Hold up by they forgive if moved on. He ain't
Speaker 1: even missed and he got smissed.
Speaker 3: He gotta eat that work. You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: For sure, you give it just out the strand being
Speaker 2: I mean, we didn't been pulled over several times in
Speaker 2: the streets before I had the Grammys two weeks after
Speaker 2: that all the all the nominated four times and the
Speaker 2: Grammys did two weeks after that that incident.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, and like and yeah, all.
Speaker 1: The all the bottles at one part because of you,
Speaker 1: all the all the you know the things that come
Speaker 1: along with be with the baby.
Speaker 3: He ain't eat that what.
Speaker 2: Man, Look I tell you what man the podier, Yeah, poier, man,
Speaker 2: keep you some of this just in case you need
Speaker 2: to take a shot like I do right now.
Speaker 3: You know what you live and you learn? Man? Are
Speaker 3: you still are you cool with him? Are yo? You
Speaker 3: donna let that go? You're like, no, bro, we can't.
Speaker 2: For a while, I couldn't even I couldn't even stomach
Speaker 2: you couldn't it being in the room with my boy
Speaker 2: man for a while. But I don't forget since then
Speaker 2: I done forgave him. You get what I'm saying. And uh,
Speaker 2: you know, but I just I just move. I just
Speaker 2: move accordingly. I just moved.
Speaker 3: We moved differently, though you look at him different Nigga.
Speaker 2: I ain't even gonna be in the car with nobody
Speaker 2: that you know if I you know, I ain't.
Speaker 3: Even Yeah, but the forgiveness wasn't for him, is for you.
Speaker 2: You had me cut the man I love, you know,
Speaker 2: I his daughter, that's my niece, his mama.
Speaker 3: That's that's my baby. You know what I'm saying. You
Speaker 3: know that's my baby. They know this.
Speaker 2: It hurt them too, right, you get it because they know.
Speaker 2: You get what I'm saying, like they know they know this.
Speaker 3: You feel me. They know if I'm with me, even being.
Speaker 2: Who I was, if the gun was mine, I wouldn't
Speaker 2: have went out like that.
Speaker 3: I would have that's mine. You get what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: It's legal, It's that you're allowed to have it first
Speaker 2: of all, So it ain't no. Just to give people context,
Speaker 2: we ain't riding around he ain't. It wasn't no gun,
Speaker 2: but nobody went.
Speaker 3: On you can have it. So it's like, what you
Speaker 3: what you're doing? You feel me? Right, that's yours to
Speaker 3: take your lig Yeah, that's what we've been doing.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's yeah, you've been doing yeah before we got here,
Speaker 2: So it's I would it was so it was so
Speaker 2: left field, and I'm just like, damn, But you know,
Speaker 2: I feel like it was a lesson that I needed
Speaker 2: to learn.
Speaker 3: You give what I'm saying. At the end of the day,
Speaker 3: that's what I needed to learn.
Speaker 1: You you talked about your mom when you grew up,
Speaker 1: you had a bench, you have a speed bag, you
Speaker 1: had a heavy bag, so obviously you're good with your hands.
Speaker 1: And you say, I ain't a I got beat out today.
Speaker 1: My brother got me. But outside the house, I ain't
Speaker 1: taking How do you how do you move differently? Because
Speaker 1: you know people wanna try you. Yeah, so how do
Speaker 1: you move? How do you how do you move accordingly
Speaker 1: to make sure the baby ain't in a situation? Back
Speaker 1: at the end, like if we know some of the
Speaker 1: things that have happened in your path.
Speaker 2: To end like that again on a day to day basis,
Speaker 2: like I've been, I didn't have to and you know,
Speaker 2: we didn't tested on a lot of points that this
Speaker 2: shape the way I move on a day to day basis,
Speaker 2: including the city that I'm from. I've been had to move,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, on the basis of staying
Speaker 2: out the way and survival. You know what I mean,
Speaker 2: from day one, before I ever even got in front
Speaker 2: of a microphone, from in the streets to you know
Speaker 2: what i mean, translating over into you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: doing music and being a rapper. So I'm I'm almost
Speaker 2: just I'm I'm accustomed to it now.
Speaker 3: For the trouble, the trouble that you just.
Speaker 2: Can't seem the avoid it seemed to come knocking on
Speaker 2: your doorstep.
Speaker 3: I just happened to be ready for it, That's all,
Speaker 3: you know. But I don't.
Speaker 2: I ain't no, I'm not no bully, I'm not no.
Speaker 2: You know, battles I feel like I know I can win.
Speaker 2: I don't even partake in them, You get what I'm saying. Like,
Speaker 2: I don't, I don't get down, and I don't respect.
Speaker 2: I don't respect bullets. I don't respect you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. I don't pick my battles. I ain't gonna
Speaker 2: act respond like this to this dude, but not respond
Speaker 2: like this to this one that ain't high rock.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
Speaker 2: But I just I mind my business, brun, you know,
Speaker 2: I just I move with grace on the daily basis,
Speaker 2: like I don't bother nobody.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, I be cooling, you know.
Speaker 2: So the contrary the popular belief, like you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, just overall, I'm a good guy. You know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Like I don't, I don't start no
Speaker 2: trouble nowhere, you know what I mean. I'll avoid it
Speaker 2: and try to and try to defuse it before I
Speaker 2: you know, before I bet the vesseler like I don't.
Speaker 2: That ain't really how I get down anyway. It's just
Speaker 2: as a person. That ain't how I get out. I
Speaker 2: give I respect. I give respect first. I did know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. In all situations, I give respect, I
Speaker 2: leave with, I leave with what with what I demand?
Speaker 2: You get what I'm saying, And then that way, you know,
Speaker 2: it is what it is. If it go any other way,
Speaker 2: that's something somebody else is adamant on taking place, and
Speaker 2: get what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: It gotta be that never go anywhere with me.
Speaker 2: That's why you see like a lot of my a
Speaker 2: lot of instances that occur with me. Yeah, make headlines
Speaker 2: of to do this and do that, because I am
Speaker 2: who I am. But if you if you know, if
Speaker 2: people do, they they do diligence on the situation that
Speaker 2: charge dismissed or nothing happens, or it didn't work for
Speaker 2: the it didn't work for the other end. You get
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, because it wasn't done righteously.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. Me, I just I move
Speaker 3: righteously on the day to day basis. You know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I move righteously. I get my hustle on. I you know,
Speaker 2: I I pouring. I pour into my creativity and ever
Speaker 2: to pour it into the world. I take care of
Speaker 2: my kids, my people, you know, and and I you know,
Speaker 2: I stick.
Speaker 3: And move, I move smooth. I know how to move right,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? So? So where what what's
Speaker 3: up with this rappers beat? I think you do? What
Speaker 3: the rap? Why why we got raped? Beef? You said
Speaker 3: you told me enough money for everybody? Yeah, all that
Speaker 3: all that be you know, the riving around Ego.
Speaker 2: Now for any rap beef that where somebody hadn't actually
Speaker 2: been hurt or something, Okay, that's a different.
Speaker 3: Thing, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Like you know that that boils down the you know,
Speaker 2: loyalty or this or that, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Like for whatever.
Speaker 2: But but other than that, it really just be Ego. Man,
Speaker 2: it be Ego. You know a lot and a lot
Speaker 2: of people. It's better than them. They can't shake they
Speaker 2: can't shake it, you know what I'm saying. But I
Speaker 2: ain't really want to. I ain't never really been wanting
Speaker 2: for taking no rap beef Like I'm not trying to
Speaker 2: play like that.
Speaker 3: Because it ain't right, you know it's I ain't trying
Speaker 3: to play like that. You know.
Speaker 2: It's one or two types of people, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. I ain't one of them. I Am not
Speaker 2: trying to go back and forth with you on these
Speaker 2: zones and we get in this room and then you
Speaker 2: act like we don't got this going on?
Speaker 3: Nah?
Speaker 2: Nah, you know what I'm saying. So I don't even
Speaker 2: participate in it, you know what I mean? And you know,
Speaker 2: I thank god people don't don't try to real me
Speaker 2: into that.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean. You dealt with some loss
Speaker 3: in your life. Yeah, absolutely absolutely?
Speaker 1: How did that impact you? How did that? Because you
Speaker 1: know you got three boys. You mentioned three boys. I'm
Speaker 1: assuming in part of me if my assumptions are off,
Speaker 1: that you were close with your brother, because there's three
Speaker 1: of y'all. You say, your mom, we get that job, job,
Speaker 1: and so basically y'all raising each other.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, you give you what I'm saying. How did the
Speaker 3: loss of your dad and your brother impact you? Man tremendously?
Speaker 2: But at the same time, you know, and like I said,
Speaker 2: I've been working on my documentary lately, really finishing finishing
Speaker 2: it up.
Speaker 3: So I've been exploring these thoughts and doing a.
Speaker 2: Lot of self reflection lately because a lot of these
Speaker 2: you know, emotions and the trauma that come along with
Speaker 2: these experiences and these experience this out of experienced this
Speaker 2: at the height of my When my father passed, it
Speaker 2: was two three weeks after I dropped my debut project
Speaker 2: Baby on Baby, you know what I'm saying, And my
Speaker 2: first day of tour that's when I find out he passed.
Speaker 3: I fly in and lay him the rest and fly
Speaker 3: out the same night, go right back on tour.
Speaker 2: You get what I'm saying, and go on to dedicate
Speaker 2: an album that was number one, a number one album
Speaker 2: Kirk dedicated to him.
Speaker 3: But I really and this is something I didn't just
Speaker 3: notice why I self reflect them finishing up my documentary.
Speaker 2: But I always suppressed these emotions.
Speaker 3: You get what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I suppressed these feelings and distracting myself from them, you
Speaker 2: know what i mean, and from the healing process by
Speaker 2: just pouring putting that much more energy.
Speaker 3: Into my hustle.
Speaker 2: You get know what I'm saying and everything I had
Speaker 2: going on, But that's unhealthy, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: That I end up becoming a ticking time waiting to
Speaker 2: go out, you know what I mean. So you'll see
Speaker 2: a certain situation where I go from zero to a hundred.
Speaker 2: That's why I'm still you know what I.
Speaker 3: Mean, for what it been. The hell about my brother that,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Like, so that's it's completely unhealthy to deal with it
Speaker 2: that waving on hindsight, I'm just not realizing that's the
Speaker 2: way I went about dealing.
Speaker 3: With these things.
Speaker 2: And even furthermore, I realized I've been doing that my
Speaker 2: whole life since a kid. You know what I mean,
Speaker 2: A four year old ain't supposed to know how to
Speaker 2: suppress the way they feel in order to survive.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying That ain't nothing for no kid.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean. My oldest daughter six.
Speaker 2: I can't imagine her suppressing the way she feel in
Speaker 2: order to feeling like she got to do that in
Speaker 2: order to survive.
Speaker 3: You get what I'm saying, like, ain't no way. You
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying like, ain't no way.
Speaker 2: But when I think about it, and I think about
Speaker 2: the fact that, you know, the circumstances are by me,
Speaker 2: you know everthing ultimately like, that's what that became, That
Speaker 2: became something so natural to me at such an early
Speaker 2: age and stuck with me all the way to you know,
Speaker 2: me being a grown man.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, grown man with kids and
Speaker 3: just now you know, having to get parked.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like on top of the
Speaker 2: world in terms of okay, where I'm at, uh uh
Speaker 2: and from where I'm at compared to where I came from,
Speaker 2: right on top of the world, right, but God having
Speaker 2: to pull that from pull that check from up under
Speaker 2: me and park me, park my ass Like now hold on, bro,
Speaker 2: you know, deal with what you got to deal with hell,
Speaker 2: you get what I'm saying, and then move forward and
Speaker 2: then see how much you know, how much further you
Speaker 2: can move forward once you to finally quit. You know
Speaker 2: what I mean, suppressing away because I'm better at it
Speaker 2: than others. You get what I'm saying, Like I always
Speaker 2: knew how to do that. I got other family members,
Speaker 2: Like my brother is an example. You're like, you know
Speaker 2: he it took him overboard, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: His experiences, his traumba, what have you took him overboard
Speaker 2: the way he took his own life.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying with me?
Speaker 2: You know, everybody in good and suppressing it and and
Speaker 2: you know, and got that hustle to where they hustle
Speaker 2: keep them busy enough to stay distracted from it.
Speaker 3: Like I really still got.
Speaker 2: Real deal people that I'm responsible, you know for taking
Speaker 2: care of them. My brother had both kids, Like I'm responsible.
Speaker 2: It's a responsibility of minds, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: But who's to say that they able to suppress the
Speaker 2: last thing I want them to do. It's grow used
Speaker 2: to suppressing these emotions, knowing the possible negative outcome to that,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, later on in life.
Speaker 3: So you know, it's like I gotta be there. I can't.
Speaker 2: It's like I almost feel as if I don't got
Speaker 2: time to hang my head or what have you. Then
Speaker 2: I got this mission that I'm on. I was the
Speaker 2: number one artist in the world, top streaming artists in
Speaker 2: the world. Uh stop streaming rap artists in the world.
Speaker 2: When my brother committed suicide. You did what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So I still got, you know, this responsibility to continue
Speaker 2: to see this through and you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: see it through and make sure it is what it
Speaker 2: is and my people get what they're supposed to get
Speaker 2: from it, and we all get what we're supposed to
Speaker 2: get from it, you know what I'm saying. So it's like,
Speaker 2: you know, I'm I'm the head. I'm the head of
Speaker 2: the family, you know what I mean. And it's it's
Speaker 2: it's almost like, you know, it take real deal experiences,
Speaker 2: and it takes time to self reflect and and you know,
Speaker 2: and it take experiences like me, you know, going through
Speaker 2: what I done went through over the past couple of
Speaker 2: years career wise, in order to a quit using this
Speaker 2: to run from what you got going on. I'm really
Speaker 2: running I'm calling it suppressing it. One'mna call it strong. Boy,
Speaker 2: I don't know how you do it. I don't know
Speaker 2: how you do it. Bro, you the strongest, but I
Speaker 2: don't know how you do it. I don't know how
Speaker 2: you do it. I really ain't strong. That's really a weakness.
Speaker 2: I'm really running from it.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Strength is, and this is all.
Speaker 2: Stuff I just not came to realization about strength is
Speaker 2: dealing with the head on, healing from it and moving
Speaker 2: forward from it.
Speaker 3: That's a that's a displayed strength. You get what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Running from it some impressident.
Speaker 2: You did what I'm saying, the running from it, suppressing it,
Speaker 2: You ain't really overcoming it.
Speaker 3: That's still something that's there. You run it. While I'm
Speaker 3: out here, You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: They look like, boy, he's strong, he doing this, he's
Speaker 2: still holding down, he's still about it.
Speaker 3: But boy, when the.
Speaker 2: Cameras go off on by myself, I'm I'm messed up
Speaker 2: out here. You get what I'm saying, Like, I ain't
Speaker 2: got nothing mindful when I get along by myself and
Speaker 2: all of that. You know, I can say all of
Speaker 2: that and go back to the very beginning, like me,
Speaker 2: you know, understanding and feeling like from the jump I
Speaker 2: was a kid feeling like my purpose was to do
Speaker 2: for others and the sacrifice for others.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, That's just always been me.
Speaker 2: So I guess that's what made it feel okay, But
Speaker 2: on hindsight, it ain't.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, It ain't.
Speaker 1: You said your brother took his own life because you
Speaker 1: felt that he wasn't love He felt like he wasn't
Speaker 1: loved you.
Speaker 3: Did he have you?
Speaker 1: Did he show any signs that something might be going
Speaker 1: on in his life that you didn't know about?
Speaker 2: Always always since you know, since JITs like always, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean.
Speaker 3: That's that's that's really like kind of been.
Speaker 2: And to put it into perspective, like you know, I
Speaker 2: talk about traumatic experiences and you know, a crazy environment
Speaker 2: in terms of upbringing and all that, and none of
Speaker 2: this is the discredit the phenomenal job my superhero over Mama.
Speaker 2: Did she held it down? You get what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: the right thing by her damn self. None of this
Speaker 2: is the discredit that But she can't save it us
Speaker 2: from everything. And that's something I mentioned in that verse
Speaker 2: on that Kanye's song. Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: She too busy working to protect us from all the elements.
Speaker 2: You know, it's still up to us as an individual
Speaker 2: to navigate through it as best as possible, you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. But definitely like it was always more
Speaker 2: and the experiences that I remember is being traumatic and
Speaker 2: that I could look at on hindsight, it's shaping me
Speaker 2: to be the person that I am today.
Speaker 3: And this is the reason why I go about this.
Speaker 2: And Okay, think about the feelings I say I got
Speaker 2: to suppressed as as a four year old. It's from
Speaker 2: the understanding of a four year old. He was nine,
Speaker 2: you get what I'm saying. So it is told so
Speaker 2: what I had to suppress at eight, he was thirteen.
Speaker 2: And there's some very real stuff I'm talking about, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean. My documentary gonna really show it
Speaker 2: always gonna get a world a completely different understanding of
Speaker 2: who I am as a person and how resilient I
Speaker 2: didn't just been blessed enough to be, but like, you know,
Speaker 2: the experiences I.
Speaker 3: Had and I remember, it's being traumatic.
Speaker 2: He understood them from from you know, a completely different
Speaker 2: perspective of perspective that was five years older and more
Speaker 2: knowledgeable than what I was.
Speaker 3: And who's to say what he was exposed to that
Speaker 3: I wasn't.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm still the baby, so a lot of time,
Speaker 2: you know, I can't be left alone with these niggas
Speaker 2: he can, right And not only that, I'm the one
Speaker 2: out of the three siblings who who Daddy is present?
Speaker 2: You get what I'm saying right present, you know, even
Speaker 2: if it is from a long distance. You know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying, Like the present, I go with him for
Speaker 2: the summer. I got somebody putting something on my mind.
Speaker 2: He got our drunk crackhead uncles, the ones he gotta
Speaker 2: look up, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: This and that, so you know our uncles. Did Robs
Speaker 3: do this? Do that? I think it made him feel
Speaker 3: some type of way.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, that's a thing. That's a very real thing, bro,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Absolutely, So it get deep,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And this is something that's
Speaker 2: apparent in households all over the world, and you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, And it's something that it should be
Speaker 2: tended to and you know, people should pay attention to
Speaker 2: it because it's so many different factors that affect the
Speaker 2: way a person's mind develops and how they grow to love,
Speaker 2: how they grow to receive love, how they grow to
Speaker 2: identify what love is. You get what I'm saying and
Speaker 2: what it ain't. You know, that's a very real thing
Speaker 2: that I feel like need to be tended to and
Speaker 2: ultimately like that's what this what this documentary was working
Speaker 2: on and ended up being shaped into. It's like a
Speaker 2: mental health awareness piece of something that's just so healthy.
Speaker 2: I feel like like my purpose. I feel like this
Speaker 2: is gonna be my greatest contribution. You know what I
Speaker 2: mean to the world to this date, You know what
Speaker 2: I mean, besides my beautiful kids, It's gonna be you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, my greatest contribution. You know what
Speaker 2: I mean to the world to this date. I feel
Speaker 2: like this is gonna save millions of lives, not even thousands.
Speaker 2: It's this, this documentary, is this them. It's gonna save
Speaker 2: millions of lives because it's these things. It's not a
Speaker 2: household in the world that this, this project is not
Speaker 2: gonna be able to touch on.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: You you you mentioned when you went through what you
Speaker 1: meant went through fifty cent was there? How did he
Speaker 1: help you deal with the adversity that you were going
Speaker 1: through because you were at the apex of your career
Speaker 1: You're talking about four hundred thousand, four hundred easy.
Speaker 3: All the four hundred bands of show calendar look like
Speaker 3: it got tattooed on every day. You couldn't even book
Speaker 3: me for that year. This happened when July I would
Speaker 3: book till January and.
Speaker 2: We wouldn't taking no dates after the end. It's like,
Speaker 2: y'all got a hold on. We might be We're gonna
Speaker 2: be getting a million a show by that time. We
Speaker 2: need we ain't fooling with y'all. I'll call us in January.
Speaker 3: It was like that.
Speaker 2: But uh, most importantly, man, the the most important thing
Speaker 2: being uh, he wouldn't He wasn't ashamed.
Speaker 3: Of wrapping his arm around me.
Speaker 2: You get what I'm saying, right, And not only that, Like,
Speaker 2: I feel like what hit home the most was him
Speaker 2: being a person who who then had controversial experiences throughout
Speaker 2: his career and and being able He's a person that
Speaker 2: was able to navigate through them, yes and get on
Speaker 2: the other end. Of it that them them three factors
Speaker 2: alone was enough for a person like me. I only
Speaker 2: need one of them three factors to you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying, I'm feeling debt to anybody to do for
Speaker 2: me in any way, big or smile. That's how I rock,
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. But Nah, he a real
Speaker 2: solid dude. Man, really put his arm around and really
Speaker 2: put any opportunity in front of me that he could
Speaker 2: put in front.
Speaker 3: Of me, and didn't care about how it affected him.
Speaker 2: You get what I'm saying, a lot of people that
Speaker 2: I didn't help, that I didn't been a major part
Speaker 2: of what they got going on. But because what I
Speaker 2: got going on right now can potentially affect what they
Speaker 2: got going right right right, idn't they pick up the
Speaker 2: phone to call you?
Speaker 3: But they don't do it publicly.
Speaker 2: I done went from a liability, I mean from an asset,
Speaker 2: from the biggest asset they'd never had, to a liability.
Speaker 3: I see completely different people. You get what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: That was never the case with him, and he's still
Speaker 2: nothing the game. He's still nothing the game. A lot
Speaker 2: of these's people to gain from me directly, you get
Speaker 2: or have already gained from He's never he stood nothing
Speaker 2: the game, you know what I mean the entire time
Speaker 2: even to this day, you're going through what you're going through.
Speaker 2: Kanye West brought you out him too. That's another one
Speaker 2: was thirty Just like that quick.
Speaker 3: Kanye lost a billion.
Speaker 1: When you have conversation, what's those conversations like, because he's
Speaker 1: going you went through what you went through. He's going
Speaker 1: through what he went through. Yeah, so what what's the
Speaker 1: conversation Like? Damn man, wept up.
Speaker 2: With O like the how I lead off the conversation.
Speaker 2: Of course with Fitty is more the conversations they more
Speaker 2: they was more uh strategic, more controlled, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. I done did this before my boy Kanye.
Speaker 2: It's war with him. He my boy. He don't get
Speaker 2: it with Kanye, that's really him now he ain't putting
Speaker 2: on no, that ain't no beside that's really him. With him,
Speaker 2: it's more so like you know, like he fed up
Speaker 2: with this with the way it goes, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, Like he you know, it got him mad.
Speaker 3: The way they're doing. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Same thing with fifty that too, but with Kanye is
Speaker 2: more like respond to it like this. With fifty is
Speaker 2: more like more like, you know, it's like this like
Speaker 2: this that it's like, you know what I mean? Then
Speaker 2: then you be good.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: With Kanye is more like, nah, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: both with my language, you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 2: I'm kind of like the hybrid between both of them,
Speaker 2: both of them different methods, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: But but that definitely that's the difference in the conversation
Speaker 2: between the two.
Speaker 1: When I you signed the Rock Nation to a distribution deal,
Speaker 1: what was that experience like? So when you go into
Speaker 1: a deal, I mean, are you like, okay, I eventually
Speaker 1: I'm gonna want to do my own thing and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna probably so I need to like pay very very
Speaker 1: close attention to every single thing that they do.
Speaker 3: That's something they ain't even had light shit on it.
Speaker 2: Defect A lot of people don't know that I was
Speaker 2: signing the Rock Nation on a distribution deal early on.
Speaker 2: This is before it's like what twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen,
Speaker 2: verst ever of twenty eighteen, But really it was more
Speaker 2: so like I didn't even really have a strategy.
Speaker 3: In turn, I did.
Speaker 2: I definitely had a strategy in terms of how I
Speaker 2: wanted to market myself as an artist where I wanted
Speaker 2: to go, But it was still just a distribution deal,
Speaker 2: you get what I'm saying. So it's like, and that's
Speaker 2: on hindsight, like this the way you know labels work
Speaker 2: right now, it ain't their job to turn you into
Speaker 2: it to make people love you.
Speaker 3: Now it's once people do want you.
Speaker 2: You got enough people to love you, it's they job to,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, put you in the right
Speaker 2: places and just and just exemptly it's their job to
Speaker 2: pour gas on the fire. You get what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Dan ain't really see that light or sparking, you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. And knew that they ain't really see
Speaker 2: the little the little candle lit, and they ain't knock
Speaker 2: the candle over and let it and let it you
Speaker 2: know what i mean, ignite, ignite a wild far. They
Speaker 2: ain't really let it do that, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: That solid was and then the terms of the deal
Speaker 2: had ended. You give what I'm saying that the time
Speaker 2: period of the deal, it had ended. And then that's
Speaker 2: when her I dropped blank blank, and then it.
Speaker 3: Was a bed in war. It was instantly a bed
Speaker 3: war for me.
Speaker 1: Did you see where jay Z and Beyonce's daughter Blue
Speaker 1: Ivy introduced her salon son to ju your song shake something.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw that. I did see that, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean.
Speaker 2: I ain't know how true it was or not, you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, But I feel like, you know,
Speaker 2: if it comes from in the house, you know it's
Speaker 2: it's validated.
Speaker 3: But that's dope. And don't surprise me.
Speaker 2: I actually met Beyonce before that was one of the
Speaker 2: people people be like who you even met?
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying that, Like it threw you out,
Speaker 3: like it took you back, like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Beyond she she I was at the party at did
Speaker 2: It Crib and in La this was this was this
Speaker 2: was the beginning of twenty twenty, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: And did he have he had put everybody else out
Speaker 2: the crib like the influx of people he had put
Speaker 2: him out, But he had he had uh, he had
Speaker 2: took a liking to me in particular around the time. Man,
Speaker 2: it was really you know what I mean, like putting
Speaker 2: his arm around me, So he had put majority of
Speaker 2: the people out, but he likewed me to stay in there.
Speaker 2: Me and you know, maybe about maybe about fifteen others,
Speaker 2: you know, jay Z and Beyonce being you know, two
Speaker 2: of the of the other other fifteen people in the room.
Speaker 2: So that just put into perspective of the type of
Speaker 2: company I was in right.
Speaker 3: At the moment, you know.
Speaker 2: And she came over and introduced herself to me, like
Speaker 2: as if she had to Beyonce cut it out.
Speaker 3: But I'm a big fan of your work, you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. Whoop?
Speaker 2: And that was just dope. That was dope as hell
Speaker 2: of me, man, that was that was dope. That was
Speaker 2: super dope.
Speaker 1: What's some of the best cities that you tore it in?
Speaker 1: You've been all over the world.
Speaker 3: Best cities I tour it in?
Speaker 2: Do you like touring the best of it is? I
Speaker 2: like touring then? Oh man, I haven't been a lot
Speaker 2: of places. Who who energy do? I just love as
Speaker 2: a city altogether, Dallas is Dallas.
Speaker 3: Is a market. It's like you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: Dallas is different. Man. I always love Dallas, and I
Speaker 3: gotta say Dallas.
Speaker 2: I gotta start with them because just early on Dallas,
Speaker 2: one of the markets that like, they all about having
Speaker 2: a good time. You were artists to know how to
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, you have a good time
Speaker 2: this and there, Like Dallas is gonna take a liking
Speaker 2: to you early and when they and when they love you,
Speaker 2: they love you. They don't care about no Dallas. It's
Speaker 2: a world of its own. I love Dallas, oh Man.
Speaker 2: I got a lot of strong markets, man, I got
Speaker 2: a lot of strong markets.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: You like going overseas? I love overseas. I was trying
Speaker 2: to keep it domestic overseas for sure. Anything overseas they
Speaker 2: go crazy. They don't even speak your language, they can't
Speaker 2: they but they.
Speaker 3: Figured everywhere you're doing.
Speaker 2: But ever word, every word of the soul man that
Speaker 2: always chriped me out. Man, I go overseas, they be
Speaker 2: waiting in the airport twenty thirty deep down there, chasing
Speaker 2: us to the car you get.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: And it's all good energy, It's all good. They treating
Speaker 2: them like Michael Jordan over there.
Speaker 1: Robab looking at your twenty nineteen double XLF freshman class.
Speaker 1: You gonna med cor Day, Roddy Ridge, blue facey K
Speaker 1: good company.
Speaker 3: Rom y'all got a yeah we will, Yeah, yeah we
Speaker 3: were something. We were put together.
Speaker 1: I know you've been paying attention because it's right next
Speaker 1: to your Atlanta Little Hop Skipping and Jump and Charlotte
Speaker 1: three hours, right, and you see what's going on. They said,
Speaker 1: now we can use the lyrics that you rap about
Speaker 1: against you. Does that take away some of the creativity?
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on that?
Speaker 3: I mean me personally, I don't. I don't.
Speaker 2: I ain't rapping by too many real life experiences. I
Speaker 2: ain't rapping about no real life experiences. Dicky, then ain't
Speaker 2: handled and yeah that's been open. Wait yeah yeah not
Speaker 2: me so lot, that's over.
Speaker 3: That's all.
Speaker 2: I ain't got that problem. I ain't worried about that.
Speaker 2: I think about it all I get to say, I'll
Speaker 2: take it right out. Delete that at least that running back.
Speaker 2: Ain't no way, like I know what I can and can't.
Speaker 2: You know, I operate on that level, and I'm pretty
Speaker 2: sure other artists do too. I'm pretty sure a lot
Speaker 2: of a lot of the lyrics that they probably do
Speaker 2: planning on using.
Speaker 3: You know, they won't be able to hold up. Man.
Speaker 2: Thugs smarter than that. You know that's that's a smart man,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, A good real good dude too.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: I hope to see him come out on the on
Speaker 2: the good end of that for show, for the show.
Speaker 2: But definitely though that ain't something that ain't no problem
Speaker 2: Mama ever have because I ain't even gonna be playing
Speaker 2: like that now. Now I got some lyrics, you could
Speaker 2: probably definitely use the paint of negative picture, and I
Speaker 2: think it given the ability to do that. But at
Speaker 2: the same time, you know, it's also it's also you know,
Speaker 2: it's also taking away they constitutional rights at the same time,
Speaker 2: so they make and make a person asks you know
Speaker 2: what kind.
Speaker 3: Of game were playing? You know, right, what kind of
Speaker 3: game were playing? I saw a tweet that said, you
Speaker 3: have a one point GPA.
Speaker 2: You said, that's the biggest lie of if I called
Speaker 2: my mom about that shild break your phone. I ain't
Speaker 2: never even I ain't ever had an f in my life.
Speaker 2: You got whatever else to get at one point, I
Speaker 2: ain't never had a D right, never had a d
Speaker 2: But you colle college, Yeah, like three years, I ain't
Speaker 2: getting no d up.
Speaker 3: I never had no one play you so close to graduate?
Speaker 3: What what happened. That wasn't for me, man, I was after
Speaker 3: three years. It wasn't for you. It's normally after a
Speaker 3: quarter or some master, not three year man.
Speaker 2: And then you know, and like I say, I asked
Speaker 2: questions like I was still undecided too. I never told
Speaker 2: you I ain't want to be nothing, but none of
Speaker 2: it special enough. I knew I was special. I'm like, nah,
Speaker 2: I ain't really nothing.
Speaker 3: I went to.
Speaker 2: School because that's what my Mamaune wanted me to do.
Speaker 2: I did make, yeah, to make make my parents proud,
Speaker 2: for sure, that's what that was. Because it's easy, like
Speaker 2: I said, like I touched on it quickly early. But
Speaker 2: I always sailing the school like school was always easy
Speaker 2: to me, Like I don't school was always easy to me.
Speaker 3: I always like that, ain't really about nothing like English class.
Speaker 2: If it's a ten page paper, people been working on
Speaker 2: this paper the whole quarter, the whole semester.
Speaker 3: I'm doing it the night before.
Speaker 2: I'm not even gigging about it till the night before,
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna I dine did that night before and
Speaker 2: got a hundred on a paper. Befo you get what
Speaker 2: I'm saying, Like I don't you know the academics. That
Speaker 2: ain't never really been something I didn't. I didn't ever
Speaker 2: even felt like it was cool to play around. But
Speaker 2: it's too easy, right, It's too easy, you know.
Speaker 3: What im saying. I'm trying to gonna get this over with.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. Were you a party in school?
Speaker 3: Was that? What? A partier? A party? In what? College? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I already know how to have some fun.
Speaker 3: I know how to have some fun in college. But
Speaker 3: you know you ain't up being around there that many
Speaker 3: things before ever. See what I'm saying, I say captains persually.
Speaker 3: I was in a good door. My dorm had both.
Speaker 3: Oh you got a co head co ed that was
Speaker 3: called co ed.
Speaker 2: The nice one. Well you know I you know I
Speaker 2: had that on lock. I can't even lie to you.
Speaker 2: I had my way in there. I'm bad. I put
Speaker 2: the fox in the head. Best friends, they best friends
Speaker 2: their whole life. They done fell out. I feel bad.
Speaker 3: About the coming seas.
Speaker 2: I'm like, damn, bet y'all mamas know each other, they
Speaker 2: the sun all come on.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna going what they want.
Speaker 2: To back those susanie, what you what you and I'm
Speaker 2: not doing now? I ain't got hey. I guess it's
Speaker 2: your turn.
Speaker 3: You me, it is what it is. I ain't got hey.
Speaker 2: Look, hey, look I'm up here on this this a
Speaker 2: hour into me. This ain't And I went to a
Speaker 2: real university, bro, like I went to.
Speaker 3: I went to UNCG. That ain't even like no HB
Speaker 3: North Carolina A and T.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, one of the most. The
Speaker 2: problem is not even one of the most. That's the
Speaker 2: one HBCU in North Carolina. It's right up the street.
Speaker 2: I went this route, you know what I'm saying, And
Speaker 2: that going to show you to like I always excelled academic.
Speaker 3: You can't even get it. You can't just go to
Speaker 3: you and CG.
Speaker 2: It don't work like that, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: But like, yeah, so I'm I'm walking through. I'm the
Speaker 2: only one looked like me.
Speaker 3: Kids reading they in the trees, laying down reading books.
Speaker 2: I'm like, but what the hell going on? You know
Speaker 2: what's going on up here? It ain't really nobody like
Speaker 2: me here. So y'all was up there, man, I ain't
Speaker 2: really have it to my I ain't had too much
Speaker 2: to do, so you know, I ended up getting done.
Speaker 1: Public relations would you update publicly again, Hell no, why
Speaker 1: for what?
Speaker 3: For what?
Speaker 2: But this is the thing though, like with me, Yeah, nah,
Speaker 2: I wouldn't. I wouldn't, But at the same time, it's
Speaker 2: almost like I don't. I don't even think I got
Speaker 2: the luxury de side, whether or not not, would I
Speaker 2: ever take it the problem myself to put my business
Speaker 2: out there or allow myself or be okay with them
Speaker 2: with somebody else, you know what I mean? Going about
Speaker 2: our situation as if it's a public Nah, I'm cool
Speaker 2: on that. They're nothing done. That that ain't about nothing, right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: that ain't about nothing. That ain't that ain't for no relationship.
Speaker 2: That's that's called public relations, right You in relations with
Speaker 2: the public, not the person. So if you feel me
Speaker 2: you got it's too much, like too many factors to
Speaker 2: go along with that.
Speaker 3: But I'm cool.
Speaker 1: You once said that you wanted to retire in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty five. You're still cool.
Speaker 2: On that day you said I wanted to retire at
Speaker 2: age thirty, and that's crazy. That's when I got canceled. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I said I'm stopping at thirty. I used to always
Speaker 2: say that, like I'm stopping at thirty. I used to
Speaker 2: say I used to say, you're not trying about twenty five.
Speaker 2: I turned twenty five. I wasn't dead, Thank you God.
Speaker 2: I wasn't dead, and I wasn't rich yet either. I
Speaker 2: got rich about twenty selves and yeah, you know, and
Speaker 2: I was able to accomplish so much within within like
Speaker 2: the first year and a half of my career, even
Speaker 2: though before that the groundwork I.
Speaker 3: Laid it took several years.
Speaker 2: Like a lot of people think, I heard a lot
Speaker 2: some people speak on and ask me questions. It's all
Speaker 2: you think I'm one of them, popped up out of nowhere.
Speaker 2: But I was walking around giving out CDs like you
Speaker 2: get what I'm saying. I took my money from the
Speaker 2: streets and went bought posters and CDs and flyers like
Speaker 2: I really, you know, I really brought myself, you know,
Speaker 2: down to the to the ground level. I really put
Speaker 2: my feet to the streets and really got out here
Speaker 2: in Earntlind You know what I'm saying. But you know,
Speaker 2: but that that just further prepared me and just build
Speaker 2: the foundation strowing up for me to be able to
Speaker 2: the hit the ground running when I did crossover in
Speaker 2: the mainstream music business.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, what's next with the baby?
Speaker 2: This documentary, it's, you know, groundbreaking, this documentary.
Speaker 3: So the documentary is in front of albums right now.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, the next album gonna come with the documentary.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, like right on ere, I
Speaker 3: don't know. I'm trying not to say too much.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be docuseries and we're gonna put that out
Speaker 2: there and I'm gonna come with that. I'm gonna come
Speaker 2: with that with that season finale, with that, with that
Speaker 2: finale from the docuseries.
Speaker 3: The album gonna come with that, with that last one.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get you out of here. On Bess.
Speaker 1: If you could go back and do any part of
Speaker 1: your career over again, what would it be?
Speaker 3: What would you change? Nothing? I wouldn't change that's a lie.
Speaker 3: Let mean me, you wouldn't take them too many back
Speaker 3: on that stage. I would have told Rolling Loud, I
Speaker 3: missed my flight.
Speaker 1: We finished seeing you out the money back, I missed
Speaker 1: my flight, boy.
Speaker 2: I swear the boy. Look you know I love y'all.
Speaker 2: Bro Hey, what's my boy name? Uh? What's my boy's name?
Speaker 2: Man from Rolling Loud? Man, what's their name?
Speaker 3: Bro? To is it Terri, Tyrek, that's how you pronounce it.
Speaker 3: Look tyre, bro. Look boy, the plane broke down. Bro.
Speaker 3: They say they it's maintenance. They say it's maintenance. Bro.
Speaker 3: I can't make it, you know what I mean? I
Speaker 3: do that definitely. Other than that, though, Man, you know,
Speaker 3: you live and you learn, man, I and you know
Speaker 3: I would your like be if that moment hadn't happened.
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, sure that happened two years ago.
Speaker 3: It was already it was. Man, we got to go up,
Speaker 3: I promise you.
Speaker 2: But it's all good because you know, on hindsight, like
Speaker 2: a lot of the points I was touching on earlier,
Speaker 2: like the way that parked me right and kept me
Speaker 2: from taking off running and utilizing my hustle to just
Speaker 2: distract myself and keep my mind and keep my my
Speaker 2: spirit and my body occupied.
Speaker 3: Right. Who is to say like where I would be
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, mentally and spiritual? You know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Had I not you know, been forced to sit my
Speaker 2: ass down to self reflect, because I still didn't sit
Speaker 2: down even you know what I mean when it took place.
Speaker 3: I'm fighting it.
Speaker 2: I'm fighting and I'm fighting Hell nah, that ain't what
Speaker 2: it is that ain't what it is I'm telling you
Speaker 2: all that ain't fighting and fighting and fighting it it
Speaker 2: took for that to k not god like uh uh yeah,
Speaker 2: because I'm a good fighter.
Speaker 3: You a good fighter.
Speaker 2: On hure, it looked like you about to get about
Speaker 2: of that situa ass down, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: You know, it takes for that for me to you know,
Speaker 2: really get to a point the way. Okay, I'm I'm
Speaker 2: I'm comfortable within my situation and with the results that
Speaker 2: I got.
Speaker 3: And now let me explore, Okay, what took place to
Speaker 3: get me here?
Speaker 2: Okay, Now let me explore, Okay, what shaped me to
Speaker 2: be the type of person that that I am to
Speaker 2: even put me into this situation and caused me to,
Speaker 2: you know, go about the situation. I went about it,
Speaker 2: and you know it got me, I guess I Lately
Speaker 2: since I've been since I've been doing way more writing
Speaker 2: and self reflecting, working on what I'm working on. I'm
Speaker 2: I'm so fulfilled as a person. I got such a
Speaker 2: better understanding on who I am as a person and
Speaker 2: how my upbringing in different factors and elements of my
Speaker 2: life on the way up shape me to be this person.
Speaker 3: You get what I'm saying, and I got the knowledge of.
Speaker 2: Okay, how to do better with these situations and do
Speaker 2: better with with you know, these emotions and traumatic experiences
Speaker 2: of what have you pain, traumba or whatever. How to
Speaker 2: do better with it and move forward in a much
Speaker 2: healthier and better manner.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean, because I ain't tripping.
Speaker 2: I had a conversation with somebody was talking to earlier
Speaker 2: today and I'm like, really, bro, I'm really in the
Speaker 2: space to work, Like because even when I was getting
Speaker 2: what I was getting the show, had what I had
Speaker 2: in the bank this and that I wasn't happy as
Speaker 2: a person.
Speaker 3: You give you what I'm saying. And I'm like right now,
Speaker 3: like I'm not chirpping, Like I'm.
Speaker 2: Okay with I'm okay with with not making another dollar
Speaker 2: for the rest of this year.
Speaker 3: That's a lie, No I'm not.
Speaker 2: But it's like this, like if I'm okay with doing
Speaker 2: that to finish seeing this project through to the finish line,
Speaker 2: because that's way more fulfilling and healthy for me as
Speaker 2: a person and for millions of people around the world.
Speaker 2: And before the man's the people, the people directly affected
Speaker 2: by the same shit that I'm packaging within this story
Speaker 2: my family, you know what I'm saying, Like that needs
Speaker 2: to be laid out for My story got to be
Speaker 2: told the correct way in order for people to even begin,
Speaker 2: before they can begin to bob their head to another
Speaker 2: song and fall in love with me as an artist
Speaker 2: or as a person, period, they need to really understand, Okay,
Speaker 2: who is this who is this guy?
Speaker 3: You get what I'm saying, and what made him this way? Okay?
Speaker 2: And how can some of the things he's been able
Speaker 2: to experience, how can we learn from his mistakes, you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, and just move forward in a
Speaker 2: healthier way. That's what I got going on right now.
Speaker 2: So I kind of don't I don't regret anything, man,
Speaker 2: that I have been through, and it it feels so
Speaker 2: good to really be able to say that and meaning
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I probably said that before,
Speaker 2: but I ain't really meaning. It's like, boy, I wish
Speaker 2: I had my two hundred million y'all, y'all rib me.
Speaker 2: You give what I'm saying. I don't feel like that,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. I don't feel like that.
Speaker 2: I really feel like I really feel like that's a
Speaker 2: blessing in disguise at this point in my life.
Speaker 3: I just kept at that realization over like the past
Speaker 3: two weeks.
Speaker 2: I really feel like I needed that season that I
Speaker 2: didn't have to endure.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. I feel like I needed that.
Speaker 2: And that's what's gonna make me, you know, be way
Speaker 2: way more happy of a person, way more you know,
Speaker 2: that makes me that much more of a man for
Speaker 2: the remainder of.
Speaker 3: My life, because I'm gonna live longer than I and
Speaker 3: already lived. You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: It's just you know, that's just that that's men of
Speaker 2: skull compared to the things I have been able to
Speaker 2: deal with, you know what I'm saying, saying and in.
Speaker 3: Some of the things that I'm gonna have to deal
Speaker 3: with in the future.
Speaker 2: But guess what, I'm moving forward with the knowledge and
Speaker 2: the wisdom to know how to navigate through it the
Speaker 2: correct way as opposed to suppressing and and you know,
Speaker 2: and sweeping you know, how I'm feeling and how it's
Speaker 2: affected me, because ultimately sweeping it under the rug, because
Speaker 2: ultimately that's gonna affect what I put out into the world.
Speaker 2: You get what I'm saying, there's a lot of people
Speaker 2: sitting there waiting for what I got to put out, You.
Speaker 3: Know what I mean, And it's my duty to do
Speaker 3: right by that.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. That's way more fulfilling than
Speaker 2: any amount of money. I ain't tripped I had. I
Speaker 2: didn't have more money than I knew what to do
Speaker 2: with right literally, like I've had it. You get what
Speaker 2: I'm saying, And I ain't. I'm not tripping on that,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. My most fulfilling, the most
Speaker 2: fulfilling purchases I had, I really couldn't even I sat
Speaker 2: here and thought it, but I got I had seventeen
Speaker 2: seventeen cars. I ain't mentioned no crime. And what I
Speaker 2: said was my best purchase was reinvesting in myself. You
Speaker 2: get what I'm saying, Like, you know, I that's my
Speaker 2: That's what I feel like is the best thing I
Speaker 2: had to spend my money on to. That just goes
Speaker 2: to say like those were the time I was most fulfilled.
Speaker 2: When I was just you know, living within my purpose.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, That's when I'm most filed.
Speaker 2: That's why I find the most joy and comfort that man.
Speaker 2: That's what helped me look in the mirror and say, boy,
Speaker 2: you that nigga, I look in the mirror.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean. That's what it's about with me.
Speaker 2: So I don't really, I wouldn't do I wouldn't do
Speaker 2: nothing different except for say, it's making his issues on this.
Speaker 3: Plane, I can't make it show. But other than that, man,
Speaker 3: it's all good. Man.
Speaker 2: I love the space I'm in, not as not as
Speaker 2: an artist or career wise too, as much bigger than
Speaker 2: I love the space I'm in as a person.
Speaker 3: And I'm seeing it.
Speaker 2: I'm seeing it attract everything I've been fighting to get,
Speaker 2: you know what i mean, fighting to get back to
Speaker 2: and I'm seeing it attracted.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
Speaker 2: And I'm tenfold. It's attracting it tenfold. It's everything coming
Speaker 2: at me right on time. You get what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: and awaited I can navigate through it the way. This
Speaker 2: this best for me, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 2: that's that's the biggest blessing of all.
Speaker 3: Right now, man, continue success.
Speaker 1: I appreciate the best in the twenty three and then
Speaker 1: the twenty four api to.
Speaker 3: Time, you know, I appreciate it.
Speaker 4: The baby, all my life, grinding all my life, sacrifice,
Speaker 4: hustle pay the price. Wanta Slice got to brow the dice,
Speaker 4: swap all my life. I've been grinding all my life.
Speaker 4: Look all my life and grinding all my life sacrifice,
Speaker 4: Hustle pay the price. Wanta Slice got to brow the dice,
Speaker 4: the swap all my life. I've been grinding all my life.