WEBVTT - 1. 9/10 0:00:06.800 --> 0:00:14.000 September two thousand, one pm, Manhattan. The sun set five 0:00:14.040 --> 0:00:18.760 minutes ago technically really, though it's been dark for a while. 0:00:19.640 --> 0:00:26.759 Thunderstorms coursed through the city, pulsing and pausing, blackening the sky. 0:00:27.720 --> 0:00:30.320 This is the sound of that rain. The rain of 0:00:31.600 --> 0:00:37.800 captured on video by a man named Andres Barila standing 0:00:37.800 --> 0:00:40.240 in a department store across the street from the World 0:00:40.280 --> 0:00:45.800 Trade Center, is Dr Sneha and Philip at eight pm 0:00:46.680 --> 0:00:49.320 hours and twenty eight minutes before a Boeing seven sixty 0:00:49.400 --> 0:00:52.760 seven slams into one of the skyscrapers above snay House, 0:00:52.760 --> 0:00:56.200 swipes her husband's credit card, grabs two bags, and exits 0:00:56.240 --> 0:01:04.080 onto the street. She's never seen again. Except that's not true. 0:01:04.520 --> 0:01:08.399 Snay was seen again. We just don't know by whom. 0:01:08.440 --> 0:01:11.440 She stayed somewhere that night, though we don't know where. 0:01:14.319 --> 0:01:16.520 There is a grand story to be told of nine 0:01:16.600 --> 0:01:21.000 eleven of the world before and after. This is not that. 0:01:21.800 --> 0:01:24.240 This is the story of one missing woman and her 0:01:24.280 --> 0:01:27.560 family's questifine her. The story of a thirty one year 0:01:27.600 --> 0:01:30.880 old newlywed on the precipice of life, a promising career 0:01:30.880 --> 0:01:34.759 in medicine ahead of an artist, a poet, a sister, 0:01:35.240 --> 0:01:40.680 a daughter, someone loved, someone lost, someone who disappeared during 0:01:40.680 --> 0:01:45.600 a monumental moment in American history. Since September two one, 0:01:45.880 --> 0:01:49.520 there's been no sign of Snay huh, no DNA, nothing. 0:01:50.480 --> 0:01:53.760 In the absence of evidence, tabloids and rhetors alike poured 0:01:53.840 --> 0:01:58.440 over her personal life, her sexuality, her mental health, alcohol use, 0:01:58.720 --> 0:02:03.160 legal troubles, snay how the victim? Snay? How the hero Snay? 0:02:03.200 --> 0:02:08.080 How the troubled woman? But who was Snay really? Who 0:02:08.200 --> 0:02:16.480 is she? For my heart media, this is missing on 0:02:16.600 --> 0:02:19.560 nine eleven, The story of one woman who vanished on 0:02:19.600 --> 0:02:22.200 the eve of history and my quest to find her. 0:02:22.720 --> 0:02:54.040 I'm your host, John Wallzac. Talk to people who knew 0:02:54.080 --> 0:02:59.280 snay ha friend or foe, and you'll hear the same descriptors. Brilliant, beautiful, 0:02:59.800 --> 0:03:04.200 our tistic, charismatic, and depending on who you ask, either 0:03:04.240 --> 0:03:08.200 manipulative or more generously, really good at getting what she wanted. 0:03:08.760 --> 0:03:16.800 Sna was smart, I mean brilliant. She spoke five languages, English, Russian, Italian, German, Emalayalam. 0:03:16.840 --> 0:03:21.240 She loved books. She was philosophical and poetic. Though she 0:03:21.320 --> 0:03:24.280 grew up in a conservative Indian family, she was progressive. 0:03:24.680 --> 0:03:27.520 She considered herself a feminist, and she loved gay men 0:03:27.840 --> 0:03:30.760 at a time when much of America didn't. Her art 0:03:30.840 --> 0:03:33.760 was typically abstract. She was a fan of Jackson Pollock. 0:03:34.480 --> 0:03:37.720 One day, much to her parents surprise, she and a 0:03:37.800 --> 0:03:42.640 friend painted a mural in her family's basement. Sneh was ageless, 0:03:43.080 --> 0:03:48.640 smooth skin, rice smile, piercing brown eyes, black hair, five 0:03:48.720 --> 0:03:53.920 six and a hundred and fifteen pounds, but fierce. Her 0:03:53.960 --> 0:03:57.960 life began on October seventh, nineteen sixty nine, in southwest India, 0:03:58.160 --> 0:04:01.040 in the state of Kerala. It's three years later her 0:04:01.080 --> 0:04:04.240 father wanted visa lottery for doctors and moved the family, 0:04:04.520 --> 0:04:07.840 say her mother on Zu, and her older brother Ashwyn, 0:04:07.960 --> 0:04:11.400 to Albany, New York. Three years after that, her younger 0:04:11.440 --> 0:04:15.440 brother John was born. As a kid, sna attended Ludonville 0:04:15.520 --> 0:04:20.120 Christian School and later Emma Willard School, an exclusive private 0:04:20.120 --> 0:04:23.960 academy that counts among its alumni Jane Fonda and Senator 0:04:24.040 --> 0:04:28.080 Kirston jilla Brand, who graduated the semester before Snaha arrived. 0:04:28.839 --> 0:04:32.560 Snayha ran track and played flute and the piano. She 0:04:32.680 --> 0:04:35.920 decorated her bedroom with posters of Billy Idol and breakfast 0:04:35.920 --> 0:04:39.800 at Tiffany's. She idolized Audrey Hepburn and listened to boy 0:04:39.880 --> 0:04:45.960 George and Duran duran in Naha graduated from Emma Willard 0:04:46.200 --> 0:04:49.600 and moved to Baltimore to attend Johns Hopkins University, where 0:04:49.640 --> 0:04:53.920 she pursued both premed and creative writing studies. Whether or 0:04:53.960 --> 0:04:56.719 not Snayha really wanted to be a doctor depends on 0:04:56.760 --> 0:05:01.040 who you ask. Her family says yes, really, everyone else 0:05:01.080 --> 0:05:04.240 says no. They say she really wanted to be an artist. 0:05:06.080 --> 0:05:09.640 At Hopkins, was the treasurer of her sorority by muw 0:05:10.440 --> 0:05:13.560 It was easy for her to make friends on the outside. 0:05:13.640 --> 0:05:18.560 She was gregarious and extroverted, approachable and kind, but she 0:05:18.680 --> 0:05:22.440 also had an introverted streak, someone quick and witty who 0:05:22.440 --> 0:05:28.720 could turn inward. In May, Snaha graduated from Hopkins by 0:05:30.120 --> 0:05:37.040 she was in Seattle. Seattle and ninety three was energy, 0:05:37.200 --> 0:05:40.680 the epicenter of American culture. If you just graduated from 0:05:40.720 --> 0:05:45.120 college and you're looking for somewhere to go and somewhere fun, 0:05:45.240 --> 0:05:48.240 somewhere cool, somewhere to get a start, Seattle sing Keith Place, 0:05:48.279 --> 0:05:53.120 and everyone was heading. Hugo Kuga, a reporter New Snaeha loosely. 0:05:53.720 --> 0:05:56.680 His girlfriend at the time was her roommate. They shared 0:05:56.680 --> 0:06:00.600 a house on Capitol Hill, a gritty, trendy, gay friendly neighborhood. 0:06:00.960 --> 0:06:04.320 You'd meet people who had and were from other places 0:06:04.440 --> 0:06:08.960 and nothing no time to Seattle at all, and people 0:06:08.960 --> 0:06:13.040 who dressed well. I've remember that, and Sale is one 0:06:13.040 --> 0:06:17.280 of those people. She was not white, she was cool, 0:06:17.680 --> 0:06:23.040 she dressed well. She was not from Seattle. Um, oh, okay, yeah, 0:06:23.080 --> 0:06:25.039 you're like, you're one of those people. You're one of 0:06:25.040 --> 0:06:27.719 those cool people who moved to Seattle. She was easy 0:06:27.760 --> 0:06:31.120 to talk to. She uh yeah. I mean, you know, 0:06:31.160 --> 0:06:34.360 some people are cool and cold and stand off as 0:06:34.400 --> 0:06:36.440 she wasn't. I remember that. She was a warm person, 0:06:36.640 --> 0:06:41.039 easy to talk to. Um, easy to joke with. While 0:06:41.080 --> 0:06:45.000 in Seattle, took classes at the University of Washington or 0:06:45.040 --> 0:06:48.680 you dub and fell into the rave scene. She loved fashion, 0:06:49.000 --> 0:06:52.640 especially shoes, and she loved to dance. Her younger brother, 0:06:52.760 --> 0:06:55.880 John joined her in Seattle for about a year. By 0:06:55.880 --> 0:07:00.000 the summer of had moved east to attend the Chicago 0:07:00.040 --> 0:07:04.680 go Medical School. One year later, Ron Lieberman arrived in Chicago, 0:07:05.040 --> 0:07:08.680 also to attend med school. Ron was a long haired 0:07:08.880 --> 0:07:13.320 Jewish musician from Los Angeles. He was skinny, looked like Jesus, 0:07:13.360 --> 0:07:17.840 and played the guitar in He and snay has started dating. 0:07:18.640 --> 0:07:22.040 Sometime after that, In ninety six or ninety seven, Snah 0:07:22.200 --> 0:07:25.640 took a year off from d school. She flew to Tuscany, Italy, 0:07:25.800 --> 0:07:30.320 where she spent six or seven months painting. She loved Tuscany, 0:07:30.480 --> 0:07:34.680 she could see herself living there permanently. During this time, 0:07:35.080 --> 0:07:37.880 Sah pondered whether or not she really wanted to be 0:07:37.920 --> 0:07:41.040 a doctor, or whether she should dedicate herself to art. 0:07:42.120 --> 0:07:44.920 It was in Tuscany that Ron proposed to her on 0:07:44.960 --> 0:07:48.440 the balcony of her apartment in Florence. She said yes, 0:07:48.920 --> 0:07:52.560 and after a blissful Tuscan escape, returned to Chicago and 0:07:52.680 --> 0:07:57.240 med school in n She and Ron graduated and moved 0:07:57.240 --> 0:08:01.160 to New York City that July. Based did their residencies, 0:08:01.600 --> 0:08:04.800 Ron at Jacoby Medical Center in the Bronx and snay 0:08:04.840 --> 0:08:08.920 Haw at Cabrini Medical Center in Manhattan. Ron specialized in 0:08:08.960 --> 0:08:13.720 emergency medicine. Snah wasn't sure what to do, maybe oncology 0:08:13.920 --> 0:08:17.640 or neurology, or maybe she'd be an allergist. On May 0:08:17.680 --> 0:08:20.760 thirteenth two thousand, Ron and Snaeha got married at the 0:08:20.800 --> 0:08:24.560 trout Beck, a luxurious in and Amenia, New York. Their 0:08:24.560 --> 0:08:28.200 wedding was lavish and joyful, so much so it was 0:08:28.240 --> 0:08:31.520 featured in a magazine Grace Ormond Wedding Style in two 0:08:31.600 --> 0:08:35.079 thousand one. The night before the ceremony, in an ancient 0:08:35.160 --> 0:08:38.480 eight hour Indian ritual, temporary designs were painted on the 0:08:38.480 --> 0:08:42.479 bride's hands and feet, with Hannah symbolizing her new marital status. 0:08:42.800 --> 0:08:45.280 Custom dictates that a woman remains a new bride as 0:08:45.320 --> 0:08:48.720 long as the design can still be seen. Spanish flamenco 0:08:48.760 --> 0:08:52.520 guitar music entertained guests before the ceremony, while classical Indian 0:08:52.600 --> 0:08:56.079 music featuring sitar and tablet drums provided the backdrop. As 0:08:56.080 --> 0:08:58.760 the couple stood under an outdoor arbor, over which a 0:08:58.880 --> 0:09:02.000 talent or Jewish prayer your shawl was straped well I 0:09:02.040 --> 0:09:04.960 guess sing an Indian song, Ron plays a tiny teardrop 0:09:05.000 --> 0:09:09.160 shaped gold pendant and cross around Snah's neck, symbolizing their marriage. 0:09:09.559 --> 0:09:11.760 He then wrapped the bride in a red silk wedding 0:09:11.840 --> 0:09:15.920 sorry elaborately woven with golden thread. The couple drank wine 0:09:16.040 --> 0:09:18.959 from a Kiddish cup, over which another guest had recited 0:09:18.960 --> 0:09:22.840 a traditional Jewish blessing. Ron ended the ceremony by smashing 0:09:22.840 --> 0:09:28.880 a glass underfoot. In the Jewish tradition, the year that 0:09:29.000 --> 0:09:31.800 followed the summer of two thousand to the summer of 0:09:31.800 --> 0:09:35.440 two thousand one, that was the Golden year, the year 0:09:35.600 --> 0:10:03.560 everything seemed right with the world seemed as I see it. 0:10:03.840 --> 0:10:10.120 There are four logical explanations for Snay has disappearance. Nine eleven, murder, 0:10:10.800 --> 0:10:16.960 she ran away and is alive. Suicide. But come on, murder, 0:10:17.080 --> 0:10:21.920 suicide that she's alive. None of that makes sense. Here's 0:10:21.960 --> 0:10:25.360 the thing, though, neither does nine eleven, not when you 0:10:25.400 --> 0:10:29.880 look at it closely. Nothing makes sense. So what do 0:10:29.960 --> 0:10:33.600 you do when the person you love just vanishes? A wife, 0:10:33.760 --> 0:10:38.240 a sister, a daughter gone, just gone? What do you 0:10:38.280 --> 0:10:41.680 do with that? Snay House family settled on the hero 0:10:41.800 --> 0:10:44.880 narrative that snayhow was walking home on nine eleven and 0:10:45.000 --> 0:10:48.240 ran into the burning towers to help people, And really, 0:10:48.360 --> 0:10:51.560 can you blame them? Think of the pain the grief 0:10:51.920 --> 0:10:55.079 that leads a family to choose nine eleven as the answer. 0:10:55.760 --> 0:10:58.880 And although there's no proof yet that Snay had died 0:10:58.880 --> 0:11:02.760 on nine eleven. Officially, that is the answer, that she 0:11:02.840 --> 0:11:05.720 died in the attacks at the World Trade Center. For 0:11:05.800 --> 0:11:09.880 snayhus family, this is all very painful, so I think 0:11:09.880 --> 0:11:12.400 it's important from the get go to make clear what 0:11:12.480 --> 0:11:15.520 I hope to accomplish with this show. First, I want 0:11:15.559 --> 0:11:18.680 to tell you about real snay Ha, not Reddit Snah 0:11:18.840 --> 0:11:23.400 the mystery woman. Second, I want to examine her disappearance closely. 0:11:23.960 --> 0:11:27.880 She deserves that. Finally, most of all, I want to 0:11:27.920 --> 0:11:31.880 find new information answers. What I can promise you is 0:11:31.880 --> 0:11:34.440 the truth, all of it as I know it. What 0:11:34.559 --> 0:11:38.000 I can't promise you is a neat, tidy ending. That's 0:11:38.080 --> 0:11:42.360 up to you. Yes, you, I'm speaking to the person 0:11:42.440 --> 0:11:47.240 sna stayed with an You're out there. You never came forward, 0:11:47.559 --> 0:11:51.320 not to her family, the cops, the press. Come forward 0:11:51.520 --> 0:11:56.840 now please. I'll protect your identity, and to anyone else 0:11:56.880 --> 0:12:00.280 with important information you too, I'll let you know how 0:12:00.280 --> 0:12:04.160 to reach us at the end of the show. Any 0:12:04.280 --> 0:12:07.880 proper examination of snay has disappearance begins with a minute 0:12:07.880 --> 0:12:12.200 by minute account of To piece together this timeline, I 0:12:12.240 --> 0:12:16.640 relied on court records, police records, and interviews when possible 0:12:16.880 --> 0:12:23.040 times are exact. When not, they're approximate. September two thousand one, 0:12:23.640 --> 0:12:27.800 around ten thirty am, Snay is in Manhattan Criminal Court 0:12:28.160 --> 0:12:32.360 charged with assault, harassment, and falsely reporting an incident. A 0:12:32.360 --> 0:12:35.240 few months ago. She told police that a fellow doctors 0:12:35.280 --> 0:12:39.160 sexually assaulted her in a bar. Then, according to the NYPD, 0:12:39.520 --> 0:12:43.080 she recanted and proceeded to harass the doctor and his wife. 0:12:44.000 --> 0:12:46.720 This is the incident that her family believes led her 0:12:46.760 --> 0:12:51.120 to spiral downward. We'll get into it more later. With 0:12:51.160 --> 0:12:54.680 her today are her husband, Ron, and her attorney, Mark Freiburg. 0:12:55.400 --> 0:12:58.120 Her appearance is brief, the case is adjourned to a 0:12:58.160 --> 0:13:02.560 future date. What happened next is disputed. According to an 0:13:02.679 --> 0:13:06.760 NYPD detective. While exiting the courthouse, Snah and Ron get 0:13:06.760 --> 0:13:10.160 into a heated argument. Ron says this never happened, and 0:13:10.240 --> 0:13:14.040 Mark Freiburg, Snayhouse attorney, told me he doesn't remember any argument. 0:13:14.440 --> 0:13:19.480 He declined further comment. Sometime between ten thirty and eleven thirty, 0:13:19.880 --> 0:13:22.280 while walking a mile from the courthouse back to their 0:13:22.320 --> 0:13:26.160 apartment at Rector Place, Ron and Snay has stopped at 0:13:26.160 --> 0:13:28.200 a bank and pull a hundred dollars out of an 0:13:28.200 --> 0:13:32.280 a t M. They split the money. Between eleven fifteen 0:13:32.360 --> 0:13:36.400 and eleven thirty, Ron leaves for work. His shift starts 0:13:36.400 --> 0:13:38.800 at one, and he doesn't want to be late. He 0:13:38.840 --> 0:13:42.040 has to catch the subway to the Bronx. Ron declined 0:13:42.080 --> 0:13:44.080 to speak to me, but here he is. In two 0:13:44.080 --> 0:13:47.439 thousand two, on Unsolved Mysteries, kissed her. I told her 0:13:47.440 --> 0:13:50.600 I loved her, and I left. Luckily, I left my 0:13:50.679 --> 0:13:53.920 keys at home, so I went back and I got 0:13:54.000 --> 0:13:56.440 to his string again, and that was the last time 0:13:56.440 --> 0:14:02.440 that I saw be four. Ron Leaves tells him she's 0:14:02.440 --> 0:14:05.280 going to clean the apartment. They're hosting a small dinner 0:14:05.320 --> 0:14:08.760 party the next night, the eleven. She's excited because the 0:14:08.800 --> 0:14:12.080 shipment of Orc is just derived from Hawaii. She tells 0:14:12.200 --> 0:14:14.560 Ron that at some point she might take a walk. 0:14:15.760 --> 0:14:20.720 Early afternoon, sna meditates. She starts cleaning the apartment and 0:14:20.760 --> 0:14:25.840 repotting the orchids. Around two to two thirty and her 0:14:25.880 --> 0:14:29.640 mom Ato talk via instant messenger, probably a o LL 0:14:29.680 --> 0:14:34.280 Instant Messenger or AIM. They chat for one to two hours, 0:14:34.920 --> 0:14:38.080 then tells aunt Wo that she better get back to cleaning. 0:14:39.360 --> 0:14:42.480 While no one disagrees that Snah and Onto talked via 0:14:42.560 --> 0:14:46.160 i AM records indicate that they also may have spoken 0:14:46.160 --> 0:14:49.040 by phone and or text, though I haven't been able 0:14:49.080 --> 0:14:53.680 to confirm that. Anzo declined to speak to me. Around 0:14:53.760 --> 0:14:57.400 four or five, Say signs off and tells her mom 0:14:57.480 --> 0:15:02.680 she's going to run errands. Between five and five thirty, 0:15:03.320 --> 0:15:06.760 Sammy Fliciano, a doorman, see Snay how walk out the 0:15:06.760 --> 0:15:10.040 front of her apartment building. Sammy is the second to 0:15:10.160 --> 0:15:13.440 last person that we know of to see Snay alive 0:15:13.840 --> 0:15:16.520 September ten. What do you remember of September ten? What 0:15:16.640 --> 0:15:18.680 hours did you work and what do you remember of 0:15:18.720 --> 0:15:22.560 that night? September two? Was the night before, I mean 0:15:22.600 --> 0:15:26.760 the day before, of course, right. Uh? I worked at 0:15:26.760 --> 0:15:31.920 three three eleven shift as the casci age. Um, I 0:15:31.960 --> 0:15:36.200 remember just working my shift and I'm going home. Do 0:15:36.240 --> 0:15:37.960 you have any memories from that night or is it 0:15:38.080 --> 0:15:42.120 just kind of get lost in the aftermath of not eleven? No, 0:15:42.440 --> 0:15:45.400 I can't remember, honestly. I mean, I just know I 0:15:45.440 --> 0:15:49.040 did the night shift, and UM, I remember being picked 0:15:49.120 --> 0:15:52.680 up by a friend of mine and that's it. I 0:15:52.720 --> 0:15:55.840 can't remember much. So I think the NYPD, maybe a 0:15:55.840 --> 0:15:57.760 private investigator spoke with you. I know it's been a 0:15:57.840 --> 0:16:01.760 really long time, but um, they didn't. I didn't even 0:16:01.800 --> 0:16:05.960 remember that. They they it listed you as the second 0:16:06.000 --> 0:16:10.680 to last person to see Dr Philip. And so I'm 0:16:10.680 --> 0:16:12.400 just gonna I'm gonna read you what what I found 0:16:12.400 --> 0:16:14.200 in the reports and tell me if any of it 0:16:14.280 --> 0:16:17.640 strikes a chord. It said that you saw Dr Philip 0:16:17.720 --> 0:16:21.440 leave the building sometime between five fifteen and five thirty. 0:16:21.520 --> 0:16:28.600 Do you have any memory of that? Um? No, I don't. 0:16:29.400 --> 0:16:31.840 Do you do you remember that? Actually, Dr phil No, 0:16:31.960 --> 0:16:33.680 that's the that's the that's that. That's the other question. 0:16:33.720 --> 0:16:36.520 I mean, I don't have no memory of the persons 0:16:36.600 --> 0:16:39.720 of that residents name. I mean faith, I'm sorry, face, 0:16:39.920 --> 0:16:42.920 no memory of that face. Yeah, but Snay Philip, you 0:16:42.960 --> 0:16:47.520 recognized the name. The name sounds very familiar, just the faith. 0:16:47.560 --> 0:16:49.320 I cannot pay for it. I cannot put a face 0:16:49.360 --> 0:16:54.680 into it. So, unfortunately, twenty years later, Sammy doesn't remember much. 0:16:55.360 --> 0:16:59.200 At the time, Snay has apartment building. Rector Place was 0:16:59.280 --> 0:17:02.920 called Park with a C Place park Place. It's a 0:17:03.000 --> 0:17:07.119 twenty four story building built in it had about three 0:17:07.200 --> 0:17:11.480 hundred units. Google mapp it. It's about nine dred feet 0:17:11.480 --> 0:17:15.800 southwest of the World Trade Center. By nine eleven, Rector 0:17:15.920 --> 0:17:19.879 was at about occupancy, many of its residents worked on 0:17:19.920 --> 0:17:23.399 Wall Street. I know which unit Ron and Snaha lived in, 0:17:23.680 --> 0:17:26.399 but I'm not publishing it. I don't want people to 0:17:26.440 --> 0:17:30.560 disturb the current owner, who understandably does not want publicity. 0:17:30.920 --> 0:17:32.560 What I can tell you is that it was a 0:17:32.600 --> 0:17:35.000 one bedroom, that Ron and Shall lived on, one of 0:17:35.000 --> 0:17:37.720 the cheaper floors, and that their unit did not face 0:17:37.800 --> 0:17:46.720 the World Trade Center. When Snaha leaves Rector sometime around 0:17:46.880 --> 0:17:50.760 five or five thirty PM, she's wearing a brown dress 0:17:50.840 --> 0:17:54.720 and sandals. Her dress is, according to Ron, quote, kind 0:17:54.760 --> 0:17:57.040 of a shirt style dress that came to her knees 0:17:57.200 --> 0:18:01.159 short sleeves. Later in court, Ron's says she wore quote, 0:18:01.440 --> 0:18:04.879 a knee length brown collared short sleeve shirt dress with 0:18:05.000 --> 0:18:08.480 buttons down the front, sandals, a beated black and gold 0:18:08.560 --> 0:18:11.680 choker with a tear drop shaped cross pendant, a gold 0:18:11.720 --> 0:18:14.400 engagement ring with a diamond in the center, a gold 0:18:14.440 --> 0:18:17.880 wedding band with small diamonds studded around it, and earrings 0:18:17.920 --> 0:18:21.960 with diamonds, studs, and flower shapes. Her toenails were painted purple. 0:18:23.560 --> 0:18:26.800 After she leaves the apartment, Snayha drops off dry cleaning. 0:18:27.280 --> 0:18:30.960 Then she walks the Century One, a massive department store 0:18:31.000 --> 0:18:33.720 across the street from the World Trade Center, just east 0:18:33.760 --> 0:18:37.840 of the Twin Towers. Century One, no relation to the 0:18:37.840 --> 0:18:41.400 real estate company, is a New York icon, a beloved 0:18:41.400 --> 0:18:45.240 spot where for decades shoppers could treasure hunt for discounted 0:18:45.320 --> 0:18:51.680 high fashion. I say could, because in September Century declared 0:18:51.680 --> 0:18:56.280 bankruptcy citing the impact of the COVID pandemic. Earlier this year, 0:18:56.400 --> 0:19:00.480 the company CEO, Raymond Guindey, graciously gave me a final 0:19:00.520 --> 0:19:04.200 tour of the store, which will likely never reopen. It 0:19:04.280 --> 0:19:07.679 was emptied out, partially lit and running on fumes with 0:19:07.760 --> 0:19:12.159 a skeletal staff. Close your eyes and wander around with me, 0:19:12.600 --> 0:19:16.720 a two hundred thousand square foot six story complex with 0:19:16.840 --> 0:19:20.080 flickering lights in the middle of a pandemic, looking for 0:19:20.119 --> 0:19:23.399 the last known location of a woman who disappeared on 0:19:23.440 --> 0:19:26.159 the evening before nine eleven. Thanks for walking up all 0:19:26.160 --> 0:19:30.080 the escalators with us. I appreciate it. Get in my 0:19:30.160 --> 0:19:33.600 work out I handed in India print out of the 0:19:33.680 --> 0:19:36.360 last known image of snay Ha A still of her 0:19:36.400 --> 0:19:39.320 in the women's coat area, captured by a security camera. 0:19:40.080 --> 0:19:45.000 So this is probably literally this picture the area this 0:19:45.080 --> 0:19:49.080 was taken I think it was around here, let me, 0:19:50.520 --> 0:19:54.359 or in this area here? So did the women's coat 0:19:54.400 --> 0:19:56.680 area was in the same place in two thousand one 0:19:56.720 --> 0:20:00.600 that it was untild recently, yes of us. So like 0:20:00.600 --> 0:20:03.280 when we're looking and that looks like a door or something, 0:20:03.560 --> 0:20:05.520 I think it's that door. And I think that column 0:20:05.560 --> 0:20:11.920 is that column. This picture is maybe taken over here someplace. Wow. Okay, 0:20:13.520 --> 0:20:15.119 and where are we on the top floor? Where are 0:20:15.160 --> 0:20:17.360 we were on the fifth floor? The one floor? It's 0:20:17.400 --> 0:20:20.920 six floors. We tried to pinpoint the camera that caught 0:20:21.000 --> 0:20:24.159 the image. Do you think it is that a that 0:20:24.280 --> 0:20:28.639 a camera? Yeah, all those domes always cameras. Well. I know, 0:20:28.720 --> 0:20:31.320 I think you're probably right because I imagine I mean, 0:20:31.320 --> 0:20:34.720 either this would have been aimed more closely this way 0:20:34.840 --> 0:20:37.720 or or the other way. They had like at least 0:20:37.920 --> 0:20:41.080 got it, So you know they have been the cameras 0:20:41.119 --> 0:20:44.960 from two one. Probably probably not because they constantly, but 0:20:45.040 --> 0:20:47.000 the location is pretty much, say the same. They swap 0:20:47.040 --> 0:20:53.560 out the camera technology, you know, a better six O 0:20:53.720 --> 0:20:58.280 five Snap purchases several items, including Lingerie and bed Lennon's 0:20:59.480 --> 0:21:03.080 six four D. I found a single source that states 0:21:03.160 --> 0:21:06.680 say made another purchase at this time, though I haven't 0:21:06.720 --> 0:21:14.520 been able to confirm it. The sun sets, snay Ha 0:21:14.720 --> 0:21:17.359 buys three pairs of shoes in a different part of 0:21:17.400 --> 0:21:21.440 the store. And here we have a critical question. Why 0:21:21.560 --> 0:21:25.320 wasn't snay captured on camera in the women's shoe area? Oh, 0:21:25.440 --> 0:21:28.600 I'd spread at the time. Was the UM security system 0:21:28.600 --> 0:21:31.080 in terms of like camera coverage, because one thing that 0:21:31.119 --> 0:21:33.679 I read is that there were not security cameras in 0:21:33.680 --> 0:21:37.399 the women's shoe area. That seem accurate to you. I 0:21:37.480 --> 0:21:41.440 don't know if it's surprising because pretty much him everywhere. Yeah, 0:21:41.920 --> 0:21:45.200 I would be surprised it would. They usually go all 0:21:45.200 --> 0:21:49.000 over like you see. Guindy took me to the security room. 0:21:49.040 --> 0:21:52.040 It had one of those big mirror like windows. I 0:21:52.160 --> 0:21:55.119 pressed my face against the glass to see inside. The 0:21:55.160 --> 0:21:59.040 timeline of of when Dr Philip disappeared UM the doorman 0:21:59.160 --> 0:22:02.000 at her building on After Place saw her leaving sometime 0:22:02.080 --> 0:22:05.960 around five fifteen five dirty. But obviously if you look 0:22:05.960 --> 0:22:08.680 at this still from the security footage, you know it's 0:22:08.720 --> 0:22:12.359 a sixteen fifty seven twenty four, so four fifty seven roughly. 0:22:12.720 --> 0:22:16.280 Do you know, by chance if the time was calibrated 0:22:16.359 --> 0:22:19.800 or correct or off or I have no idea. I figured, 0:22:19.840 --> 0:22:22.080 I figured, I'm asking you the time on a security 0:22:22.119 --> 0:22:24.320 camera was correct twenty years ago. But I did hear 0:22:24.680 --> 0:22:27.560 that there was a transaction done and like around six 0:22:27.600 --> 0:22:30.320 pm or something. Yeah, So there, as far as I know, 0:22:30.440 --> 0:22:34.560 there were I believe to transactions. One was for lingerie 0:22:34.720 --> 0:22:38.560 bed linens um and then the last was for three 0:22:38.600 --> 0:22:42.959 pairs of shoes. So so we're she was caught on 0:22:43.160 --> 0:22:47.240 camera and exactly where we're standing right now browsing women's coats, 0:22:47.920 --> 0:22:51.560 where where would lingerie bed linens and then also women's 0:22:51.560 --> 0:22:53.720 shoes in relation to where we are right now, where 0:22:53.720 --> 0:22:56.280 are the different areas? So the lingerie would have been 0:22:56.400 --> 0:23:00.280 a couple of floors down, probably on three bed men's 0:23:00.320 --> 0:23:03.040 would be in the basement of this building. And then 0:23:03.520 --> 0:23:05.399 to get two shoes, it makes sense that she paid 0:23:05.440 --> 0:23:08.199 to transactions to get two shoes. It's into separate building 0:23:08.840 --> 0:23:11.240 on the other side, and it makes sense that she 0:23:11.280 --> 0:23:13.080 paid for it and then went to those buildings kind 0:23:13.119 --> 0:23:15.399 of like an annex where she shopped separately in the 0:23:15.400 --> 0:23:18.399 shoe area. Which building what streets just so it faces 0:23:18.440 --> 0:23:21.879 on Broadway the shoe annex, uh, and it there's a 0:23:21.920 --> 0:23:25.280 way to connect from here without going outside, but it's 0:23:25.359 --> 0:23:28.720 kind of circuitous. Some people just go out the front 0:23:28.760 --> 0:23:32.280 door and walk next door. It's easier. So how far 0:23:32.600 --> 0:23:34.280 how big of a compost? I'm gonna have to get 0:23:34.280 --> 0:23:36.720 Google Maps. How big of a complex is? Does you said? 0:23:36.720 --> 0:23:39.280 It's five six buildings total? I mean so basically it 0:23:39.440 --> 0:23:42.280 fronts the main street on Church Street, which is to 0:23:42.520 --> 0:23:45.920 the west, and it it goes through the series of 0:23:45.920 --> 0:23:49.000 buildings to Broadway, which is the east. So it's almost 0:23:49.000 --> 0:23:52.320 the full square block, although a couple of chunks are 0:23:52.800 --> 0:23:55.840 not part of this door. But it makes sense that 0:23:55.920 --> 0:23:57.800 she would work her way to shoes and then that 0:23:57.800 --> 0:24:00.560 would be her final transaction. Yeah. And then if she 0:24:00.840 --> 0:24:03.960 was exiting um having purchased shoes, would she walk out 0:24:04.000 --> 0:24:07.120 on Broadway or probably? Okay, that makes the most sense. 0:24:09.040 --> 0:24:13.960 Sometime between seven seven thirty, snay Haa exits Century one, 0:24:14.240 --> 0:24:18.520 probably onto Broadway. She carries two bags with five fifty 0:24:18.520 --> 0:24:22.760 dollars worth of shoes, bed, linens, and lingerie. It's still 0:24:22.840 --> 0:24:51.080 raining on and off. M That thunderstorm was so I 0:24:51.119 --> 0:24:54.679 don't know how to say. It was so strangely beautiful 0:24:55.240 --> 0:24:58.760 that it was eerie. It was like something is happening 0:24:58.880 --> 0:25:01.080 something is coming. I don't know what it is. I'm 0:25:01.119 --> 0:25:05.919 going to have to record this nine. Monica Bravo is 0:25:05.960 --> 0:25:08.879 an artist in residence at the World Trade Center, working 0:25:08.880 --> 0:25:11.280 out of an empty space on the ninety two floor 0:25:11.320 --> 0:25:15.240 of the North Tower. That evening, she captures video as 0:25:15.320 --> 0:25:19.840 rain rolls into the city as Snayhouse shops below, Monica 0:25:19.960 --> 0:25:24.000 films from above. Later, Monica turns her footage into a 0:25:24.040 --> 0:25:30.440 work of art called September tenth two one, which translates 0:25:30.480 --> 0:25:33.600 to roughly, it's impossible for you to die on the 0:25:33.640 --> 0:25:37.320 eve of your death. Monica waited all summer for this 0:25:37.480 --> 0:25:40.360 rain to film it. It started at to fifty five, 0:25:40.400 --> 0:25:42.639 if I'm not wrong. It started like like you know 0:25:42.640 --> 0:25:44.879 when you see the storm coming and you see like 0:25:44.920 --> 0:25:47.840 the big cloud like low, and you go, oh shoot, 0:25:47.880 --> 0:25:49.760 I'm going to get all wet like like that, and 0:25:49.760 --> 0:25:52.240 then it's dark and you see like it's like a 0:25:52.320 --> 0:25:55.639 dark monster coming. And I started seeing it from the 0:25:55.640 --> 0:25:58.200 window and that's when I started taping. And it's fascinating 0:25:58.200 --> 0:26:01.719 how fast that um cloud came over that it just 0:26:01.880 --> 0:26:05.440 touches the window with a drop of water. I don't 0:26:05.440 --> 0:26:06.919 know if you see it in the first second of 0:26:07.000 --> 0:26:10.000 the film. It's just like you see the storms coming 0:26:10.040 --> 0:26:12.840 and then immediately you know the storm is present when 0:26:12.880 --> 0:26:16.280 it's the first few drops on the on the on 0:26:16.359 --> 0:26:18.439 the window, and you know you are part of the storm. 0:26:18.520 --> 0:26:22.520 So it did not stop until probably nine pm. It 0:26:22.640 --> 0:26:26.840 was it was always raining, and there was lightning at 0:26:26.880 --> 0:26:29.439 the end of a very frightening lightning. You I used 0:26:29.480 --> 0:26:32.639 to be so scared of lightning until that day. And 0:26:32.680 --> 0:26:35.360 you know what made me get like rid of that 0:26:35.600 --> 0:26:39.600 fear was that this is my thought then not right, so, oh, 0:26:39.720 --> 0:26:41.879 that's going to happen to me. I'm in Tawaiwan. We 0:26:42.000 --> 0:26:45.000 have the I don't know how to say in English Paris, 0:26:45.080 --> 0:26:48.040 you know this thing that yeah, yeah, yeah, we have that. 0:26:48.359 --> 0:26:50.400