1 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: September two thousand, one pm, Manhattan. The sun set five 2 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:18,760 Speaker 1: minutes ago technically really, though it's been dark for a while. 3 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 1: Thunderstorms coursed through the city, pulsing and pausing, blackening the sky. 4 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 1: This is the sound of that rain. The rain of 5 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: captured on video by a man named Andres Barila standing 6 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:40,240 Speaker 1: in a department store across the street from the World 7 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: Trade Center, is Dr Sneha and Philip at eight pm 8 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: hours and twenty eight minutes before a Boeing seven sixty 9 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: seven slams into one of the skyscrapers above snay House, 10 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: swipes her husband's credit card, grabs two bags, and exits 11 00:00:56,240 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: onto the street. She's never seen again. Except that's not true. 12 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 1: Snay was seen again. We just don't know by whom. 13 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:11,440 Speaker 1: She stayed somewhere that night, though we don't know where. 14 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: There is a grand story to be told of nine 15 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: eleven of the world before and after. This is not that. 16 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: This is the story of one missing woman and her 17 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: family's questifine her. The story of a thirty one year 18 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 1: old newlywed on the precipice of life, a promising career 19 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:34,759 Speaker 1: in medicine ahead of an artist, a poet, a sister, 20 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:40,680 Speaker 1: a daughter, someone loved, someone lost, someone who disappeared during 21 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: a monumental moment in American history. Since September two one, 22 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: there's been no sign of Snay huh, no DNA, nothing. 23 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: In the absence of evidence, tabloids and rhetors alike poured 24 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: over her personal life, her sexuality, her mental health, alcohol use, 25 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 1: legal troubles, snay how the victim? Snay? How the hero Snay? 26 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 1: How the troubled woman? But who was Snay really? Who 27 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: is she? For my heart media, this is missing on 28 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: nine eleven, The story of one woman who vanished on 29 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: the eve of history and my quest to find her. 30 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: I'm your host, John Wallzac. Talk to people who knew 31 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: snay ha friend or foe, and you'll hear the same descriptors. Brilliant, beautiful, 32 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: our tistic, charismatic, and depending on who you ask, either 33 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: manipulative or more generously, really good at getting what she wanted. 34 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 1: Sna was smart, I mean brilliant. She spoke five languages, English, Russian, Italian, German, Emalayalam. 35 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 1: She loved books. She was philosophical and poetic. Though she 36 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: grew up in a conservative Indian family, she was progressive. 37 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 1: She considered herself a feminist, and she loved gay men 38 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 1: at a time when much of America didn't. Her art 39 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: was typically abstract. She was a fan of Jackson Pollock. 40 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: One day, much to her parents surprise, she and a 41 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: friend painted a mural in her family's basement. Sneh was ageless, 42 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: smooth skin, rice smile, piercing brown eyes, black hair, five 43 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 1: six and a hundred and fifteen pounds, but fierce. Her 44 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: life began on October seventh, nineteen sixty nine, in southwest India, 45 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: in the state of Kerala. It's three years later her 46 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: father wanted visa lottery for doctors and moved the family, 47 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: say her mother on Zu, and her older brother Ashwyn, 48 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: to Albany, New York. Three years after that, her younger 49 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 1: brother John was born. As a kid, sna attended Ludonville 50 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: Christian School and later Emma Willard School, an exclusive private 51 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: academy that counts among its alumni Jane Fonda and Senator 52 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: Kirston jilla Brand, who graduated the semester before Snaha arrived. 53 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: Snayha ran track and played flute and the piano. She 54 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 1: decorated her bedroom with posters of Billy Idol and breakfast 55 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: at Tiffany's. She idolized Audrey Hepburn and listened to boy 56 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 1: George and Duran duran in Naha graduated from Emma Willard 57 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 1: and moved to Baltimore to attend Johns Hopkins University, where 58 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 1: she pursued both premed and creative writing studies. Whether or 59 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 1: not Snayha really wanted to be a doctor depends on 60 00:04:56,760 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 1: who you ask. Her family says yes, really, everyone else 61 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 1: says no. They say she really wanted to be an artist. 62 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: At Hopkins, was the treasurer of her sorority by muw 63 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 1: It was easy for her to make friends on the outside. 64 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 1: She was gregarious and extroverted, approachable and kind, but she 65 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 1: also had an introverted streak, someone quick and witty who 66 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 1: could turn inward. In May, Snaha graduated from Hopkins by 67 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 1: she was in Seattle. Seattle and ninety three was energy, 68 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 1: the epicenter of American culture. If you just graduated from 69 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 1: college and you're looking for somewhere to go and somewhere fun, 70 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: somewhere cool, somewhere to get a start, Seattle sing Keith Place, 71 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 1: and everyone was heading. Hugo Kuga, a reporter New Snaeha loosely. 72 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 1: His girlfriend at the time was her roommate. They shared 73 00:05:56,680 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 1: a house on Capitol Hill, a gritty, trendy, gay friendly neighborhood. 74 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 1: You'd meet people who had and were from other places 75 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: and nothing no time to Seattle at all, and people 76 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 1: who dressed well. I've remember that, and Sale is one 77 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:17,280 Speaker 1: of those people. She was not white, she was cool, 78 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 1: she dressed well. She was not from Seattle. Um, oh, okay, yeah, 79 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:25,039 Speaker 1: you're like, you're one of those people. You're one of 80 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 1: those cool people who moved to Seattle. She was easy 81 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 1: to talk to. She uh yeah. I mean, you know, 82 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 1: some people are cool and cold and stand off as 83 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 1: she wasn't. I remember that. She was a warm person, 84 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:41,039 Speaker 1: easy to talk to. Um, easy to joke with. While 85 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: in Seattle, took classes at the University of Washington or 86 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: you dub and fell into the rave scene. She loved fashion, 87 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: especially shoes, and she loved to dance. Her younger brother, 88 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: John joined her in Seattle for about a year. By 89 00:06:55,880 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: the summer of had moved east to attend the Chicago 90 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 1: go Medical School. One year later, Ron Lieberman arrived in Chicago, 91 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 1: also to attend med school. Ron was a long haired 92 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: Jewish musician from Los Angeles. He was skinny, looked like Jesus, 93 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 1: and played the guitar in He and snay has started dating. 94 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: Sometime after that, In ninety six or ninety seven, Snah 95 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 1: took a year off from d school. She flew to Tuscany, Italy, 96 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: where she spent six or seven months painting. She loved Tuscany, 97 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: she could see herself living there permanently. During this time, 98 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: Sah pondered whether or not she really wanted to be 99 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: a doctor, or whether she should dedicate herself to art. 100 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: It was in Tuscany that Ron proposed to her on 101 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 1: the balcony of her apartment in Florence. She said yes, 102 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 1: and after a blissful Tuscan escape, returned to Chicago and 103 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 1: med school in n She and Ron graduated and moved 104 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: to New York City that July. Based did their residencies, 105 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: Ron at Jacoby Medical Center in the Bronx and snay 106 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: Haw at Cabrini Medical Center in Manhattan. Ron specialized in 107 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: emergency medicine. Snah wasn't sure what to do, maybe oncology 108 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: or neurology, or maybe she'd be an allergist. On May 109 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: thirteenth two thousand, Ron and Snaeha got married at the 110 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: trout Beck, a luxurious in and Amenia, New York. Their 111 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 1: wedding was lavish and joyful, so much so it was 112 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: featured in a magazine Grace Ormond Wedding Style in two 113 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:35,079 Speaker 1: thousand one. The night before the ceremony, in an ancient 114 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 1: eight hour Indian ritual, temporary designs were painted on the 115 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:42,479 Speaker 1: bride's hands and feet, with Hannah symbolizing her new marital status. 116 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: Custom dictates that a woman remains a new bride as 117 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 1: long as the design can still be seen. Spanish flamenco 118 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: guitar music entertained guests before the ceremony, while classical Indian 119 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:56,079 Speaker 1: music featuring sitar and tablet drums provided the backdrop. As 120 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 1: the couple stood under an outdoor arbor, over which a 121 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: talent or Jewish prayer your shawl was straped well I 122 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 1: guess sing an Indian song, Ron plays a tiny teardrop 123 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 1: shaped gold pendant and cross around Snah's neck, symbolizing their marriage. 124 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: He then wrapped the bride in a red silk wedding 125 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 1: sorry elaborately woven with golden thread. The couple drank wine 126 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:18,959 Speaker 1: from a Kiddish cup, over which another guest had recited 127 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 1: a traditional Jewish blessing. Ron ended the ceremony by smashing 128 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 1: a glass underfoot. In the Jewish tradition, the year that 129 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: followed the summer of two thousand to the summer of 130 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 1: two thousand one, that was the Golden year, the year 131 00:09:35,600 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 1: everything seemed right with the world seemed as I see it. 132 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: There are four logical explanations for Snay has disappearance. Nine eleven, murder, 133 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 1: she ran away and is alive. Suicide. But come on, murder, 134 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 1: suicide that she's alive. None of that makes sense. Here's 135 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 1: the thing, though, neither does nine eleven, not when you 136 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: look at it closely. Nothing makes sense. So what do 137 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 1: you do when the person you love just vanishes? A wife, 138 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 1: a sister, a daughter gone, just gone? What do you 139 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 1: do with that? Snay House family settled on the hero 140 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 1: narrative that snayhow was walking home on nine eleven and 141 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 1: ran into the burning towers to help people, And really, 142 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 1: can you blame them? Think of the pain the grief 143 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:55,079 Speaker 1: that leads a family to choose nine eleven as the answer. 144 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: And although there's no proof yet that Snay had died 145 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: on nine eleven. Officially, that is the answer, that she 146 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 1: died in the attacks at the World Trade Center. For 147 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 1: snayhus family, this is all very painful, so I think 148 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: it's important from the get go to make clear what 149 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: I hope to accomplish with this show. First, I want 150 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 1: to tell you about real snay Ha, not Reddit Snah 151 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:23,400 Speaker 1: the mystery woman. Second, I want to examine her disappearance closely. 152 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 1: She deserves that. Finally, most of all, I want to 153 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 1: find new information answers. What I can promise you is 154 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 1: the truth, all of it as I know it. What 155 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 1: I can't promise you is a neat, tidy ending. That's 156 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: up to you. Yes, you, I'm speaking to the person 157 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: sna stayed with an You're out there. You never came forward, 158 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 1: not to her family, the cops, the press. Come forward 159 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 1: now please. I'll protect your identity, and to anyone else 160 00:11:56,880 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 1: with important information you too, I'll let you know how 161 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 1: to reach us at the end of the show. Any 162 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 1: proper examination of snay has disappearance begins with a minute 163 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 1: by minute account of To piece together this timeline, I 164 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 1: relied on court records, police records, and interviews when possible 165 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 1: times are exact. When not, they're approximate. September two thousand one, 166 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: around ten thirty am, Snay is in Manhattan Criminal Court 167 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 1: charged with assault, harassment, and falsely reporting an incident. A 168 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 1: few months ago. She told police that a fellow doctors 169 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: sexually assaulted her in a bar. Then, according to the NYPD, 170 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 1: she recanted and proceeded to harass the doctor and his wife. 171 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 1: This is the incident that her family believes led her 172 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: to spiral downward. We'll get into it more later. With 173 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 1: her today are her husband, Ron, and her attorney, Mark Freiburg. 174 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 1: Her appearance is brief, the case is adjourned to a 175 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 1: future date. What happened next is disputed. According to an 176 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 1: NYPD detective. While exiting the courthouse, Snah and Ron get 177 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 1: into a heated argument. Ron says this never happened, and 178 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 1: Mark Freiburg, Snayhouse attorney, told me he doesn't remember any argument. 179 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 1: He declined further comment. Sometime between ten thirty and eleven thirty, 180 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 1: while walking a mile from the courthouse back to their 181 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: apartment at Rector Place, Ron and Snay has stopped at 182 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:28,200 Speaker 1: a bank and pull a hundred dollars out of an 183 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: a t M. They split the money. Between eleven fifteen 184 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 1: and eleven thirty, Ron leaves for work. His shift starts 185 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 1: at one, and he doesn't want to be late. He 186 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 1: has to catch the subway to the Bronx. Ron declined 187 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 1: to speak to me, but here he is. In two 188 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:47,439 Speaker 1: thousand two, on Unsolved Mysteries, kissed her. I told her 189 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 1: I loved her, and I left. Luckily, I left my 190 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 1: keys at home, so I went back and I got 191 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 1: to his string again, and that was the last time 192 00:13:56,440 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 1: that I saw be four. Ron Leaves tells him she's 193 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: going to clean the apartment. They're hosting a small dinner 194 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 1: party the next night, the eleven. She's excited because the 195 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 1: shipment of Orc is just derived from Hawaii. She tells 196 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:14,560 Speaker 1: Ron that at some point she might take a walk. 197 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 1: Early afternoon, sna meditates. She starts cleaning the apartment and 198 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: repotting the orchids. Around two to two thirty and her 199 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 1: mom Ato talk via instant messenger, probably a o LL 200 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 1: Instant Messenger or AIM. They chat for one to two hours, 201 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 1: then tells aunt Wo that she better get back to cleaning. 202 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 1: While no one disagrees that Snah and Onto talked via 203 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 1: i AM records indicate that they also may have spoken 204 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 1: by phone and or text, though I haven't been able 205 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: to confirm that. Anzo declined to speak to me. Around 206 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 1: four or five, Say signs off and tells her mom 207 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 1: she's going to run errands. Between five and five thirty, 208 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 1: Sammy Fliciano, a doorman, see Snay how walk out the 209 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 1: front of her apartment building. Sammy is the second to 210 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 1: last person that we know of to see Snay alive 211 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 1: September ten. What do you remember of September ten? What 212 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: hours did you work and what do you remember of 213 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 1: that night? September two? Was the night before, I mean 214 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: the day before, of course, right. Uh? I worked at 215 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 1: three three eleven shift as the casci age. Um, I 216 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 1: remember just working my shift and I'm going home. Do 217 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: you have any memories from that night or is it 218 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 1: just kind of get lost in the aftermath of not eleven? No, 219 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 1: I can't remember, honestly. I mean, I just know I 220 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 1: did the night shift, and UM, I remember being picked 221 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 1: up by a friend of mine and that's it. I 222 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: can't remember much. So I think the NYPD, maybe a 223 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 1: private investigator spoke with you. I know it's been a 224 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 1: really long time, but um, they didn't. I didn't even 225 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 1: remember that. They they it listed you as the second 226 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 1: to last person to see Dr Philip. And so I'm 227 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 1: just gonna I'm gonna read you what what I found 228 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 1: in the reports and tell me if any of it 229 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 1: strikes a chord. It said that you saw Dr Philip 230 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 1: leave the building sometime between five fifteen and five thirty. 231 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 1: Do you have any memory of that? Um? No, I don't. 232 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 1: Do you do you remember that? Actually, Dr phil No, 233 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 1: that's the that's the that's that. That's the other question. 234 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't have no memory of the persons 235 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 1: of that residents name. I mean faith, I'm sorry, face, 236 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: no memory of that face. Yeah, but Snay Philip, you 237 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 1: recognized the name. The name sounds very familiar, just the faith. 238 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 1: I cannot pay for it. I cannot put a face 239 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 1: into it. So, unfortunately, twenty years later, Sammy doesn't remember much. 240 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 1: At the time, Snay has apartment building. Rector Place was 241 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 1: called Park with a C Place park Place. It's a 242 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:07,119 Speaker 1: twenty four story building built in it had about three 243 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 1: hundred units. Google mapp it. It's about nine dred feet 244 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 1: southwest of the World Trade Center. By nine eleven, Rector 245 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:19,879 Speaker 1: was at about occupancy, many of its residents worked on 246 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 1: Wall Street. I know which unit Ron and Snaha lived in, 247 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 1: but I'm not publishing it. I don't want people to 248 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 1: disturb the current owner, who understandably does not want publicity. 249 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 1: What I can tell you is that it was a 250 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 1: one bedroom, that Ron and Shall lived on, one of 251 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 1: the cheaper floors, and that their unit did not face 252 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 1: the World Trade Center. When Snaha leaves Rector sometime around 253 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 1: five or five thirty PM, she's wearing a brown dress 254 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 1: and sandals. Her dress is, according to Ron, quote, kind 255 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 1: of a shirt style dress that came to her knees 256 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:01,159 Speaker 1: short sleeves. Later in court, Ron's says she wore quote, 257 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:04,879 Speaker 1: a knee length brown collared short sleeve shirt dress with 258 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 1: buttons down the front, sandals, a beated black and gold 259 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 1: choker with a tear drop shaped cross pendant, a gold 260 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:14,400 Speaker 1: engagement ring with a diamond in the center, a gold 261 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:17,880 Speaker 1: wedding band with small diamonds studded around it, and earrings 262 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 1: with diamonds, studs, and flower shapes. Her toenails were painted purple. 263 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 1: After she leaves the apartment, Snayha drops off dry cleaning. 264 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 1: Then she walks the Century One, a massive department store 265 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 1: across the street from the World Trade Center, just east 266 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: of the Twin Towers. Century One, no relation to the 267 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:41,400 Speaker 1: real estate company, is a New York icon, a beloved 268 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 1: spot where for decades shoppers could treasure hunt for discounted 269 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 1: high fashion. I say could, because in September Century declared 270 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 1: bankruptcy citing the impact of the COVID pandemic. Earlier this year, 271 00:18:56,400 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 1: the company CEO, Raymond Guindey, graciously gave me a final 272 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 1: tour of the store, which will likely never reopen. It 273 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:07,679 Speaker 1: was emptied out, partially lit and running on fumes with 274 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:12,159 Speaker 1: a skeletal staff. Close your eyes and wander around with me, 275 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 1: a two hundred thousand square foot six story complex with 276 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 1: flickering lights in the middle of a pandemic, looking for 277 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:23,399 Speaker 1: the last known location of a woman who disappeared on 278 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:26,159 Speaker 1: the evening before nine eleven. Thanks for walking up all 279 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 1: the escalators with us. I appreciate it. Get in my 280 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 1: work out I handed in India print out of the 281 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:36,360 Speaker 1: last known image of snay Ha A still of her 282 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: in the women's coat area, captured by a security camera. 283 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 1: So this is probably literally this picture the area this 284 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 1: was taken I think it was around here, let me, 285 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:54,359 Speaker 1: or in this area here? So did the women's coat 286 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:56,680 Speaker 1: area was in the same place in two thousand one 287 00:19:56,720 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 1: that it was untild recently, yes of us. So like 288 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 1: when we're looking and that looks like a door or something, 289 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 1: I think it's that door. And I think that column 290 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:11,920 Speaker 1: is that column. This picture is maybe taken over here someplace. Wow. Okay, 291 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 1: and where are we on the top floor? Where are 292 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:17,360 Speaker 1: we were on the fifth floor? The one floor? It's 293 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:20,920 Speaker 1: six floors. We tried to pinpoint the camera that caught 294 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:24,159 Speaker 1: the image. Do you think it is that a that 295 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 1: a camera? Yeah, all those domes always cameras. Well. I know, 296 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 1: I think you're probably right because I imagine I mean, 297 00:20:31,320 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 1: either this would have been aimed more closely this way 298 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 1: or or the other way. They had like at least 299 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 1: got it, So you know they have been the cameras 300 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 1: from two one. Probably probably not because they constantly, but 301 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 1: the location is pretty much, say the same. They swap 302 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 1: out the camera technology, you know, a better six O 303 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 1: five Snap purchases several items, including Lingerie and bed Lennon's 304 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 1: six four D. I found a single source that states 305 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 1: say made another purchase at this time, though I haven't 306 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 1: been able to confirm it. The sun sets, snay Ha 307 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 1: buys three pairs of shoes in a different part of 308 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:21,440 Speaker 1: the store. And here we have a critical question. Why 309 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 1: wasn't snay captured on camera in the women's shoe area? Oh, 310 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 1: I'd spread at the time. Was the UM security system 311 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 1: in terms of like camera coverage, because one thing that 312 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:33,679 Speaker 1: I read is that there were not security cameras in 313 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:37,399 Speaker 1: the women's shoe area. That seem accurate to you. I 314 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:41,440 Speaker 1: don't know if it's surprising because pretty much him everywhere. Yeah, 315 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 1: I would be surprised it would. They usually go all 316 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 1: over like you see. Guindy took me to the security room. 317 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 1: It had one of those big mirror like windows. I 318 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 1: pressed my face against the glass to see inside. The 319 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 1: timeline of of when Dr Philip disappeared UM the doorman 320 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 1: at her building on After Place saw her leaving sometime 321 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 1: around five fifteen five dirty. But obviously if you look 322 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,680 Speaker 1: at this still from the security footage, you know it's 323 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 1: a sixteen fifty seven twenty four, so four fifty seven roughly. 324 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: Do you know, by chance if the time was calibrated 325 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 1: or correct or off or I have no idea. I figured, 326 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 1: I figured, I'm asking you the time on a security 327 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 1: camera was correct twenty years ago. But I did hear 328 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 1: that there was a transaction done and like around six 329 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 1: pm or something. Yeah, So there, as far as I know, 330 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 1: there were I believe to transactions. One was for lingerie 331 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 1: bed linens um and then the last was for three 332 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:42,959 Speaker 1: pairs of shoes. So so we're she was caught on 333 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 1: camera and exactly where we're standing right now browsing women's coats, 334 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: where where would lingerie bed linens and then also women's 335 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 1: shoes in relation to where we are right now, where 336 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 1: are the different areas? So the lingerie would have been 337 00:22:56,400 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 1: a couple of floors down, probably on three bed men's 338 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 1: would be in the basement of this building. And then 339 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 1: to get two shoes, it makes sense that she paid 340 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,199 Speaker 1: to transactions to get two shoes. It's into separate building 341 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 1: on the other side, and it makes sense that she 342 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: paid for it and then went to those buildings kind 343 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 1: of like an annex where she shopped separately in the 344 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 1: shoe area. Which building what streets just so it faces 345 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 1: on Broadway the shoe annex, uh, and it there's a 346 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 1: way to connect from here without going outside, but it's 347 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 1: kind of circuitous. Some people just go out the front 348 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 1: door and walk next door. It's easier. So how far 349 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 1: how big of a compost? I'm gonna have to get 350 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 1: Google Maps. How big of a complex is? Does you said? 351 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 1: It's five six buildings total? I mean so basically it 352 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 1: fronts the main street on Church Street, which is to 353 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 1: the west, and it it goes through the series of 354 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 1: buildings to Broadway, which is the east. So it's almost 355 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 1: the full square block, although a couple of chunks are 356 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 1: not part of this door. But it makes sense that 357 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 1: she would work her way to shoes and then that 358 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 1: would be her final transaction. Yeah. And then if she 359 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 1: was exiting um having purchased shoes, would she walk out 360 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:07,120 Speaker 1: on Broadway or probably? Okay, that makes the most sense. 361 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 1: Sometime between seven seven thirty, snay Haa exits Century one, 362 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 1: probably onto Broadway. She carries two bags with five fifty 363 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 1: dollars worth of shoes, bed, linens, and lingerie. It's still 364 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 1: raining on and off. M That thunderstorm was so I 365 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:54,679 Speaker 1: don't know how to say. It was so strangely beautiful 366 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 1: that it was eerie. It was like something is happening 367 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 1: something is coming. I don't know what it is. I'm 368 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:05,919 Speaker 1: going to have to record this nine. Monica Bravo is 369 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 1: an artist in residence at the World Trade Center, working 370 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 1: out of an empty space on the ninety two floor 371 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 1: of the North Tower. That evening, she captures video as 372 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 1: rain rolls into the city as Snayhouse shops below, Monica 373 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 1: films from above. Later, Monica turns her footage into a 374 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 1: work of art called September tenth two one, which translates 375 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 1: to roughly, it's impossible for you to die on the 376 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 1: eve of your death. Monica waited all summer for this 377 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,360 Speaker 1: rain to film it. It started at to fifty five, 378 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,639 Speaker 1: if I'm not wrong. It started like like you know 379 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:44,879 Speaker 1: when you see the storm coming and you see like 380 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 1: the big cloud like low, and you go, oh shoot, 381 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 1: I'm going to get all wet like like that, and 382 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 1: then it's dark and you see like it's like a 383 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,639 Speaker 1: dark monster coming. And I started seeing it from the 384 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 1: window and that's when I started taping. And it's fascinating 385 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:01,719 Speaker 1: how fast that um cloud came over that it just 386 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 1: touches the window with a drop of water. I don't 387 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:06,919 Speaker 1: know if you see it in the first second of 388 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 1: the film. It's just like you see the storms coming 389 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 1: and then immediately you know the storm is present when 390 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 1: it's the first few drops on the on the on 391 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,439 Speaker 1: the window, and you know you are part of the storm. 392 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 1: So it did not stop until probably nine pm. It 393 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 1: was it was always raining, and there was lightning at 394 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,439 Speaker 1: the end of a very frightening lightning. You I used 395 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,639 Speaker 1: to be so scared of lightning until that day. And 396 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,360 Speaker 1: you know what made me get like rid of that 397 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: fear was that this is my thought then not right, so, oh, 398 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:41,879 Speaker 1: that's going to happen to me. I'm in Tawaiwan. We 399 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 1: have the I don't know how to say in English Paris, 400 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 1: you know this thing that yeah, yeah, yeah, we have that. 401 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:50,400 Speaker 1: So I was like, I would safe here. First I'm 402 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,199 Speaker 1: gonna be dead, I don't know, from another fire, but 403 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,920 Speaker 1: not here. I was thinking about fire the whole time 404 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 1: I was there. The moment I leave that night, I 405 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 1: take the tape and I thought maybe I should take 406 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 1: everything else, and I said, well, no, there wouldn't be 407 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 1: a fire. But I was thinking all the time about fire. 408 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,399 Speaker 1: And I looked at the water sprinkles and that's it. 409 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 1: Oh no, there's sprinkles here, We're gonna be fine. Around midnight, 410 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,920 Speaker 1: Monica leaves the North Tower, less than nine hours before 411 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 1: American Airlines Flight eleven slams into it one floor above. 412 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 1: There are only two artists left on the ninety floor. One, Jeff, 413 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 1: leaves after Monica. The other, Michael Richards, a sculptor, sleeps 414 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 1: in the tower that night and dies in the attack. 415 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 1: The next day. Eleven PM, Sammy Fliciano says Doorman ends 416 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 1: his shift at Rector Say hasn't returned to the apartment, 417 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 1: neither has her husband Ron. Around eleven fifteen, Ron returns 418 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 1: home from work. Snay is not there, nor are her bags. 419 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 1: There's no sign she's been in the apartment since she 420 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 1: left about six hours earlier. Here again is Ron on 421 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 1: unsolved mysteries. Sometimes she would feel uncomfortable staying by herself 422 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,879 Speaker 1: at home, and her brother lives very close by, and 423 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 1: her cousin also lives very close by, so she would 424 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,160 Speaker 1: sometimes go spend the night with him. And I thought, well, 425 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 1: maybe she just decided to stop at her brother's house 426 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:29,640 Speaker 1: or her cousin. Around midnight, Ron goes to sleep. Nine 427 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 1: eleven four oh five am, someone places a call from 428 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 1: the apartment landline to Ron's cell phone. Ron has no 429 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 1: memory of making that call. Next time I'm missing on 430 00:28:47,040 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 1: nine eleven. Second, before we go, I want to let 431 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 1: you know that at the end of each episode, I'll 432 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 1: be giving you homework, something you can do, some way 433 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 1: you can help move the story forward, and then I'll 434 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 1: give you our tipline, an email where you can send 435 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 1: us information or even documents. 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