1 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: This guy had quite the interesting week. First, he's in 2 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 1: his hometown and he's taken the Providence Friars Now to 3 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 1: their fifth consecutive n a term that's never been done before, 4 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:17,959 Speaker 1: in addition to winning a couple of wars, including beaton 5 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: Xavier for the second time this year, before falling to 6 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: Villanova in the biggest championship game. Had had a wardrobe 7 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 1: malfunction ed, Cooley joins us on the Doug Gottlieb Show. Listen, 8 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: you used to be heavy, now you're not. How are 9 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 1: you splitting your pants now? In all honesty idea, know, 10 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 1: I called on seam stress and the people who wo 11 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: do our clothes, and I told him they may need 12 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:45,559 Speaker 1: a new client because that was it was funny because 13 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:48,520 Speaker 1: I didn't know, and then I kept feeling I said, wow, 14 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 1: it's chilly, and here all of a sudden, what happened? 15 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: So now you know what? You're gotta make him fun 16 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 1: of yourself. It like for everybody who really knows me. 17 00:00:57,680 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: I'm surprised I didn't take my pants off and just 18 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: coach him underwear. You know, that's why Maybe that's why 19 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:05,320 Speaker 1: Huggy always wear sweats, right you? Maybe I think Bob 20 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: Huggins goes sweats and and pull over the Natalie attired normally. 21 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 1: Ed Cooley joins us on the Doug Gottlieb Show. Your 22 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: Your Team is fascinating because, as you and I discussed 23 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: when I call you your game, you lost Evan Emmett 24 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: Holt earlier in the season, and he's such an important part, 25 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 1: not just in terms of the numbers that he puts up, 26 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 1: but in the way in which it allows you to play, 27 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 1: gives you a guy can step out and shoot threes, 28 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 1: you can score in the post as well. So it 29 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: took you a while to evolve to this team. How 30 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: long before you kind of knew what you had. I 31 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 1: think a couple of things happened. I think, you know, 32 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:42,119 Speaker 1: we had to have some honest conversations with each other 33 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: based on chemistry, on roles, on you know, this is 34 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: the deepest team that I've coached. But you can't play 35 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: thirteen guys. You can't play twelve guys, So you had 36 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 1: to have some real conversations. And when that happened, I 37 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: thought guys were at least on the same page on honesty. 38 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: The second thing that happened was, I think, as we're 39 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: getting close to the end of the year, we were 40 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: trying to become a tournament team, and I've met with 41 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: the seniors and I talked to them about they would 42 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: be the only class in the history of Providence College 43 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 1: up to this point to go to four consecutive n 44 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 1: C Double A tournaments. So we talked about legacy, not 45 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: how you start, how you finish. And then I thought, lastly, 46 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: the best thing that happened was Madison Square Garden, the 47 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:24,519 Speaker 1: biggest tournament. The energy, the excitement and the building made 48 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:28,079 Speaker 1: us play at another level. So that was great to see. Um. 49 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: All right, so how much gas is in the tank? 50 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:32,920 Speaker 1: Have you guys expended a lot with but three? You know, 51 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:36,120 Speaker 1: yet all those overtime games and then you play Nova 52 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: for a big East championship in the garden. There is 53 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: a ton of energy playing at MSG. How much how 54 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:45,119 Speaker 1: much gas is in the tank for your game which 55 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:47,399 Speaker 1: is a tough one against Texas A and M. Well, 56 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 1: I thought we had a great practice today. We only 57 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 1: practiced for like an hour, you know, we you know, 58 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 1: we didn't want any film yet. We concentrated on some 59 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: systematic things in order to try to play with and 60 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: play against Texas A and M. Because they have great size, 61 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 1: they rebound the hell out the ball. Um, they're well coached. Uh, 62 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: so we're gonna have to make sure we're disciplined in 63 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 1: our approach and what we're trying to do. And the 64 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:12,839 Speaker 1: guys were great today. They had great energy. Uh, there's 65 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:16,639 Speaker 1: a snowstorm coming up the east, so we'll practice tomorrow morning. Um. 66 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 1: I think there's a lot left in the tank. The 67 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 1: success in the Big East turn we gave our guys 68 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 1: a lot of energy and a lot, a lot of 69 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 1: desire to keep playing. Yeah. And you know, also an 70 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 1: extra day doesn't hurt either too, right you guys, don't 71 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:30,959 Speaker 1: you guys play Friday against Anam Yeah. Yeah, I thank 72 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 1: the committee for for letting us, uh for forgetting us 73 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: to Friday, because we definitely could use the rest. What 74 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: what has been the secret? You know, Providence is a 75 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: program that it's had some tremendous coaches, tremendous coaches historically, 76 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: but there's been a lack of consistency. You've been able 77 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 1: to come back home and five straight years at PC 78 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 1: and look, the Big East is a war double round Robbins. 79 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 1: All the schools are essentially just about the same. Obviously, 80 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: Nova has been the top of the league, but yet 81 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: all private schools along the eastern Midwestern UH eastern seaboard 82 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: in the into the Midwest. How have you been able 83 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: to be consistent, which is the hardest thing to build 84 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 1: a PC. Well, I think our leadership. I think father 85 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 1: and Father Shanley, our president, Bob Driscoll, you know, our 86 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: board of direct our board of trustees. They've allocated funds, UM, 87 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: they're all in to try to help us build a 88 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:26,280 Speaker 1: brand nationally UM, not just regionally as a great academic 89 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:32,359 Speaker 1: institution that supports athletics. And they've been unbelievable. Our staff 90 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: has been great. Jeff Battle, who was on his third 91 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 1: year UH, Brian Blaney is on his tenth year with 92 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: me Ivan Thomas on his fourth year as his Jeff. 93 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 1: But I just think the consistency of everything has allowed 94 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 1: us to recruit a higher level player. It's allowed us, 95 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 1: you know, I think television has helped and winning, winning 96 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 1: has helped. Winning has helped attract you know, different players 97 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: that haven't been consistently coming to prominence through the years. 98 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: And the fact that we have continue at the head 99 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: coaches seat where there's not colne over or there's not 100 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,359 Speaker 1: a job that's out there that everybody you know thinks 101 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: you should take. Um. I think all those things have 102 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: helped us build a program. Yeah, but you got a man, 103 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: it's pretty crazy. I mean, think about it and like 104 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 1: the job. Like for example, Yukon comes open over the weekend, right, 105 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: and if not for the fact you've got a top 106 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 1: ten recruiting class, you're front Providence. Like you go back 107 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: four years ago and you would say you can of 108 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:27,479 Speaker 1: the Providence job. What's the question? How quickly do I leave? 109 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: But Providence had become a better job. So take when 110 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 1: the when the Big East reformed, did you yet to 111 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: one seeds out of the that the same Big East 112 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 1: Conference once it's been reformed? How how did this happened? How? 113 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 1: How is this able to be a league that went 114 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 1: from kind of a combination of some high to some 115 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 1: upper mid majors to becoming a league that produces to 116 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: one seeds all. I think the presidents were really smart. 117 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 1: The A d s are really smart when they took 118 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 1: the monster of football out of the equation because it 119 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:01,280 Speaker 1: was always a moving target, the football schools leaving on, 120 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:04,359 Speaker 1: the basketball schools leaving. Once we decided to be a 121 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: basketball centric league, and a lot of resources went into 122 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:12,839 Speaker 1: just basketball. We we've been able to build that that way, 123 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:14,839 Speaker 1: you know, and when you look at it, most of 124 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 1: the coaches have remained at the schools. You know, most 125 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: of the coaches have stayed there, so there's not a 126 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 1: lot of turnover and the consistency. If you look over 127 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: the five years since we reconfigured, how many coaching changes 128 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:31,119 Speaker 1: have been made? Three? Maybe four? And well, Butler's had 129 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: I guess three really right, Yeah, they kind of fell 130 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 1: into Chris Holtman who was on the staff. Uh, the 131 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 1: Paul has had one, right, I mean the successful ones 132 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 1: obviously haven't changed. Creton hasn't changed, Xavier hasn't changed, Marquette 133 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 1: had one. Uh when when Buzz left that was that 134 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: was a couple of years ago. But yeah, you're you're 135 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: mostly right. That's the difference, right is that now when 136 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 1: when you win, you don't leave and chase the dollar. 137 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: Chris mac has not chased any more money. Um, and 138 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 1: you know St. John's obviously made a change, but they've 139 00:06:57,600 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: they've struggled and maybe that's why they struggled to find consistency. 140 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: I I think it's much consistently consistency. You can have 141 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: with staff with the head coach, and then you know, 142 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: being allowed to do things from a recruiting standpoint, you know, 143 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: being able to go see kids on a minute's notice, 144 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 1: being able to uh, you know, upgrade your facilities. Everything 145 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 1: everything in our in our business is about recruiting. So hopefully, hopefully, 146 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: you know, the Big East continues to do that. In 147 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: a round robin helps, you know, when you have some 148 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: of the off balance leagues. You can never get some 149 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: of those teams at home, you know, so that helps, 150 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: and then you go on in tough environments on the road. 151 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: It prepares you to get to that tournament. So I 152 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: think we're battle tested. The league's you know, val Ackerman 153 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 1: is doing a great job with her staff. Um, I'm 154 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 1: really proud of six teams once again getting into the 155 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 1: tournament from of the league's pretty dog gone good, you know, 156 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: really really good, and and the and the depth of 157 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: the league probably ate up Marquette to be honest, that 158 00:07:57,960 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: they might make they make an n c A tournament. 159 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: The differently want to ask you about Tyrn cart right, 160 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: your point guard who kind of had an up and 161 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: down senior year, but he has this he has this 162 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 1: ability in a big moment to just make up, make 163 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 1: up play, What's what's what's this experience? I mean he 164 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: was originally going to play for Max Good at Low 165 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:17,239 Speaker 1: La Merrymount, and you know then he was the backup. 166 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 1: He had Chris Dunne, an All American, a lottery pick. 167 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 1: What's what's it like to coach a player who had 168 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: times can be very frustrating, but at times you go, hey, man, 169 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: just go make a play, and he doesn't. He is 170 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 1: the smartest player I've ever coached, and second would be 171 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 1: Jared Dudley. Their minds see things before it happens. High 172 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 1: high high basketball. Like you you know, it does get 173 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 1: frustrating because I want more to Kyron, and I think 174 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:47,559 Speaker 1: Kirn wants out of himself. He's a great kid, unbelievable 175 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: ambassador for the school, great student, but I think in 176 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 1: the big moment is what he plays for. And I said, 177 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 1: you have to have more consistency every day, not just 178 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 1: the big moment. He's probably had eight to tame game 179 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: winners since we've had him over four years. Um, you know, 180 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 1: hopefully from here on out, because you know, his his 181 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 1: next loss is his last loss here. Uh, he understands 182 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: that this is really valuable. And when he plays well, 183 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:14,679 Speaker 1: we're really tough out. Yeah, you know, you know it 184 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: is Jared Dudley him West Coast guys. That just shows you, 185 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 1: you know, you East Coast Northeast were so much tougher. 186 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 1: You gotta get the smart guys on the West Coast. 187 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: That's what you have to do. That's that's what that's 188 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 1: what Craig Smith and Jared Dudley came from the West Coast. 189 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:29,079 Speaker 1: When you all those games are your assistant at BC. 190 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:31,199 Speaker 1: Same thing in Providence. I encourage you to get out 191 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 1: here getting the sun. When you want to play golf, 192 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: you always go play in Fairfield. Why don't you come 193 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 1: play course in the West Coast. I know I love 194 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:40,079 Speaker 1: playing golf. I'm not very good. I'm not very good, 195 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:42,199 Speaker 1: but I'll come dress like I'm a two man. Okay, 196 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: So here's the real question. All right, yesterday, yesterday you're 197 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 1: getting ready for the selection show. But Tiger on eight team. 198 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 1: I know, had had it gone had to go to 199 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:53,679 Speaker 1: had it gone to extra holes, would you have been 200 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: watching Tiger? Would you been watching to where your team went? 201 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: True transparency, Yes, I'm watching Tier interesting, Oh a guy, 202 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 1: I'm sitting here wait waiting for those leaguis going. People 203 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 1: are freaking out hing out. So you know what one 204 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 1: of our coaches came, Did you see the pottom like, 205 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 1: of course, what do you mean? I tell you, it's 206 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 1: what a sport you know, where where it's just you 207 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 1: the course in the ball um there's honestly I fell 208 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 1: in love with maybe ten years ago. I'm not very good, 209 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 1: but I enjoyed playing because nobody can bother you. It's 210 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 1: just a great time. We'll find you some more West 211 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 1: Coast kids when you come out here. We'll play some 212 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: golf in the meantime. Take care of the aggies and 213 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:40,199 Speaker 1: then maybe you have North Carolina in your second game. 214 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 1: It's never easy for the PC Fryers for this raight year. Uh, 215 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 1: they're in the n c A termin thanks to this guy, 216 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: Ed Cooley. Get some new slacks and we'll talk to 217 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:49,199 Speaker 1: you soon. All right, man, Thanks a lot, guys, I 218 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 1: have a good one. That's Ed Cooley joining us, who's 219 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 1: one of the absolute gems, great people in the sport. 220 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:58,079 Speaker 1: What a great ambassador to his hometown.