1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:08,799 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, the family of a missing 2 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: woman last seen running barefoot from a hotel, just told 3 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: she would be chalked into pieces and a sick ransom text. 4 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:23,600 Speaker 1: I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thank you for 5 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: being with us. 6 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 2: Leila Santanello is a young Tennessee mom living with her 7 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 2: boyfriend Michael and baby daughter Nova. Things take a turn 8 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 2: when Laila and her boyfriend get into an argument and 9 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 2: Layla leaves the house. 10 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 3: This is Leila Santanello, a young mother from Kingsport, Tennessee, 11 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:48,559 Speaker 3: who hasn't been seen in nearly two years. Leila is 12 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:51,279 Speaker 3: mom to now four year old Nova Grace, who now 13 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 3: lives with her grandmother, Jennifer Santanello. Jennifer, Layla's father George Emman, 14 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 3: and stepmother Britney Zeitler are all desperate to bring Laila 15 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 3: home and reunite her with her daughter. 16 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:08,680 Speaker 1: Where is Layelah? Again? Thank you for being with us 17 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:13,479 Speaker 1: tonight and our search for missing mom? Leelah? What do 18 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: we know? Joining me and Allstar panel to make sense 19 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:20,119 Speaker 1: of what we're learning right now? But first listen to this. 20 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 4: She had to sit on and there was a pink 21 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 4: Teddy Bear exactly like literally the same color and everything. 22 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 4: And he was sitting in the chair and he was 23 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 4: holding her like this right, and he had his I'm 24 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 4: like this, she's in his lap. I took the pink 25 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 4: Teddy Bear and I'll put it in teddybears. 26 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: You see Leela telling a story about her most precious prize, 27 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 1: and that would be her daughter, Nova Grace, talking about 28 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: a pink Teddy Bear. You know what, I want to 29 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: see that one more time, guys. Look at Leelah now missing. 30 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 4: She had to suit on, and there was a pink 31 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 4: Teddy Bear exactly like literally the same color and everything. 32 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 4: And he was sitting in the chair and he was 33 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 4: holding her like this right and the end of the 34 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 4: arm like this, she said his lap. I took the 35 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 4: pink Teddy Bear and I put it in. 36 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:19,959 Speaker 5: Teddybeary. 37 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 1: Let me go straight out now to Leyelah's father and stepmom, 38 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:27,639 Speaker 1: George Emmett and Brittany Zeiitler. To both of you, thank 39 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: you for being with us. George, tell me about Leela. 40 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: When I see her singing along to music or talking 41 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 1: about her baby, Nova Graces, it's hard to believe that 42 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 1: she's out of Nova's life. I mean, tell me about her. 43 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 1: I understand she was a very, very loving mother. 44 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, she was a very loving mother. She loved her 45 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 6: daughter very much. She loved her family. She was always 46 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 6: doing things with her daughter. You know, she was always 47 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 6: trying to strive to do better in life. So she's 48 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:10,359 Speaker 6: she's she's a wonderful person, and I just want her 49 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 6: back home. 50 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: What has it been like, George without her? 51 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 5: Miserable? 52 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 6: I can't sleep, I can't think right, it's hard to work. 53 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 6: I got other kids I got to take care of. 54 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 6: It's just been very stressful. It's every parent's worst nightmare. 55 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:30,119 Speaker 1: Brittany is Wala's stepmother. Brittany, thank you for being with us. 56 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: What has it been like for you guys trying to 57 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: move forward? You've got Nova Grace that doesn't have her mother. 58 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: You're missing Layla. What has that been like since she 59 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: went missing? 60 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 7: It's been really difficult, especially on all of us. It 61 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 7: definitely impacted us in many different ways, especially with having 62 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 7: to take on a little girl that is definitely missing 63 00:03:56,280 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 7: her mom and needs her need to be met. Or 64 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 7: that little girl she needs all the extra TLC that 65 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 7: she could eventually get, and we can all as a whole, 66 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 7: blended family give her the best life that we could 67 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 7: possibly give her at this time. 68 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 8: I mean, we've learned during this. 69 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 7: Unexpected tragedy that we've been faced with. Life doesn't stop. 70 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 7: Life keeps going whether we want it. 71 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 5: To or not. 72 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 7: And we still have to pick up all the pieces, 73 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 7: and there's still a lot of work that has to 74 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:31,840 Speaker 7: get done, and we just keep holding on to the 75 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 7: little bit of hope that she is in fact still 76 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 7: out there. 77 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: You said something very striking, Brittany. I remember when my 78 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: fiance was murdered. I felt like the whole world had 79 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 1: just stopped. And then I look back and was stunned 80 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 1: to say that the world just kept turning. I was 81 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 1: the only one that stopped. It feels like everything froze 82 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 1: in time. George, what do you tell Nova Grace about 83 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: her mom? What does she ask? 84 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:04,359 Speaker 6: She just basically, I guess, where's mommy, where's mommy? 85 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 5: Where's mommy? Looking not my mom? Yeah, she doesn't really know. 86 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:12,479 Speaker 6: She was she was really young, really young at the 87 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 6: time we're talking to you, or so she's was, didn't 88 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:17,280 Speaker 6: really know much at that time. 89 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 8: But she is starting to question where her mom is 90 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 8: and in fact, do I have a mom. You know, she'll. 91 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 7: See cartoons, she'll watch other kids call mom, dad whatnot, 92 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 7: you know, and here she is wondering, where's my mom? 93 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:39,679 Speaker 7: So she is starting to ask those questions, where where 94 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 7: is my mom? And of course we get stumps, all 95 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 7: of us too, and we try to you know, rechange 96 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 7: you know, the topic, and show her her face and 97 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 7: show great pictures of Leila and Nova together so she 98 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 7: can at least see the good times that they did 99 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 7: have together and just hope that she can have more. 100 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: Brittany, you just broke my heart to think of baby 101 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: Nova Grace saying do I even have a mom? Do 102 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:16,479 Speaker 1: I have a mom? What did you do when she 103 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 1: said that? 104 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 7: When she just started talking about mom, I just sat 105 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 7: right back, all my tears. Then she's say, oh, you know, 106 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:30,040 Speaker 7: you'll see mommy soon, and just try to redirect her 107 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 7: into a different topic or do something different just to 108 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:39,359 Speaker 7: kind of get that off the topic, because I honestly 109 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 7: don't know what to even say at this point. 110 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:44,599 Speaker 8: We could say so much and we're. 111 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 7: Going to run out of things to say, and there's 112 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:49,359 Speaker 7: going to come a point in time where what do 113 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:50,039 Speaker 7: we say? 114 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 1: Guys? Uh, The family of a missing woman Leela last 115 00:06:56,160 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 1: scene running barefoot from a hotel. I don't want to 116 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 1: put the cart before the horse. Let's start at the beginning. Listen. 117 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 2: Just a few months after having her daughter, Nova Grace, 118 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 2: Layla Sentinela loses her grandfather, with whom she was very close. 119 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 2: In the roller coaster of emotions between the joy of 120 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 2: becoming a new mom and the grief of doing so 121 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 2: without her grandfather, Layla leans on Michael Thompson for support. 122 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 2: The too quickly become inseparable, and Layla moves in with 123 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 2: Michael's family in Kingsport, Tennessee. 124 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: The grief that she went through when the grandfather died unexpectedly. 125 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 1: To Karen Start joining me, renowned psychologist joining us out 126 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: of Manhattan, Manhattan, Radio trauma expert consultant at Karenstart dot com, Karen, 127 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 1: you never know how the loss of that father figure 128 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 1: or grandfather figure will affect you the rest of your life. 129 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: And for Leila, the loss of her grandfather was devastating. 130 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: It was a real turning point in her life. 131 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 9: I have no doubt, Nanta, that she was feeling that 132 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 9: she would be able to share her daughter with him. 133 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 9: She was very very. 134 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: Close to him. 135 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 8: And get them in many. 136 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 9: Forms, as you know, and in this case, with somebody 137 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 9: so close, it could have led to devastation. Here she is, 138 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 9: she's so confused. She loves her daughter and is excited, 139 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 9: but a tremendous loss and trauma when it came to 140 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 9: her grandfather. 141 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 1: And you know, very often we don't understand why people 142 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: do the things they do when they're functioning with immense grief. 143 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 1: How did the death of the grandfather affect her. 144 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:37,559 Speaker 5: George really really bad? 145 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 6: Uh, she wasn't really talking to nobody, wasn't eating right, 146 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 6: just crying, constantly, crying every day. 147 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 5: I've tried to hug her holder and love her. She 148 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 5: just didn't want to be bothered. 149 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:54,959 Speaker 7: Really, Now, we were lucky enough to have her present 150 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 7: when she found out that her grandfather passed away. She 151 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 7: was actually a majury taking her family vacation with Nova, 152 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 7: her mom and the mom's boyfriend. And I want to 153 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 7: say we were more fortunate enough to be there through 154 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 7: that traumatic time in her life as a whole. And yes, 155 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 7: she was very devastated over the loss of her grandfather. 156 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:20,959 Speaker 8: Absolutely. 157 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 1: And you know, Karen, start with me, psychologist, You think 158 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: that someone it would be traumatized when they lose their 159 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 1: mom or their dad, which they are typically, But I 160 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: can identify that when I lost my grandmother, my mother's 161 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 1: mother who raised us, Lucy, that I then named my 162 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: daughter after my grandmother raised us while my mom worked, 163 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 1: and we were extremely extremely close. So a lot of 164 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 1: people can't relate to someone falling apart when they lose 165 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 1: a grandparent, right, but for many of us, it can 166 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 1: be devastating. 167 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 9: Without a doubt, this is sort of a father figure 168 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 9: for her. Even though she had her dad and loves 169 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:05,079 Speaker 9: her dad, she was extremely close to her grandfather, And 170 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 9: so the behavior that you have after a loss like that, Nancy, 171 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 9: anything is possible because you're in trauma. You're really feeling 172 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 9: extreme PTSD sometimes where you can't get over the event 173 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 9: and you can't get over the lost chap to come 174 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 9: to terms with it. 175 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 1: It also makes me think, of course, I'm just an 176 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 1: armchair psychologist. Don't like you, Karen start, but it makes 177 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: me wonder if that's not why she then got so 178 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 1: attached to the boyfriend Michael Thompson. Listen. 179 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 10: On Friday, June twenty third, Leayla gets in an argument 180 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 10: with her boyfriend Michael Thompson, and while the pair are 181 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 10: usually attached to the hip, Leayla takes off, leaving most 182 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 10: of her belongings, including the couple's shared phone behind. Layla 183 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 10: stays with several friends, but is not in contact with 184 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 10: family without her phone. 185 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 1: Oh my stars, this to me that starts the dominoes 186 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 1: falling when she leaves the boyfriend's place without a cell phone. Okay, 187 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 1: let me understand this, Brittany Zeidler. They were sharing one account. 188 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 7: Yes, they were working off of one working phone. The 189 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 7: other phone had a Wi Fi connected phone, so that 190 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 7: was when they were able to get a hold of 191 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:20,680 Speaker 7: one another. Leila would stay behind, Michael would go run 192 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 7: his errands, and the sleep with one phone on the 193 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 7: one account for many months. 194 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 1: So those who were sharing one phone, then that phone disappears. 195 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 1: That right there marks for me the beginning of a timeline. 196 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 1: Why because nobody can be in touch with her. Rick 197 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 1: Schaeffer joining me, former FBI supervisory special agent. I mean, 198 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:51,680 Speaker 1: in this day and age, Rick, your cell phone, I mean, 199 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 1: let's talk about the Alex Murdad case. For peace sake, 200 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 1: Murdod charged and the double murder of his wife and son, 201 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 1: Maggie and Paul. The digital footprint, the cell phone data 202 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 1: of the NAV system in his vehicle told a story. 203 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 1: I mean, as far as I was concerned, you put 204 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:14,680 Speaker 1: that one digital analyst on the stand case closed because 205 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:18,199 Speaker 1: it places murder like at the scene of the double murder. 206 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 1: At the time of the double murder, you hear his 207 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 1: voice in the background of a video taken and then 208 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:26,679 Speaker 1: with the nav system you see what time he leaves 209 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:29,839 Speaker 1: goes hies out at his grandmother's thirty minutes away. You 210 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 1: can even see where he slows down. Let's the window down. Yes, 211 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: you can tell that from a nav system and throws Maggie, 212 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 1: his now dead wife's phone out the window and then 213 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:46,079 Speaker 1: takes off. You can tell all that from modern digital science. 214 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 1: So when you don't have a phone that greatly greatly 215 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:55,959 Speaker 1: impedes a criminal investigation, absolutely. 216 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 11: Or absolutely correct. Not only are you going to be 217 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 11: able to determine where that phone is, but who's in 218 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 11: possession of it at time, not only from the cell 219 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 11: tower it's painting off, but any metadata that can be 220 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 11: extracted from photos or text or anything. 221 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 5: Of that nature. It looks like the police department. 222 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 11: Has done everything they can from a cell phone data 223 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 11: collection standpoint, looking at cameras, any digital technology that would 224 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 11: help track or whereabouts, and the reality of it is 225 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 11: is she's clearly vanished, and that's a very difficult thing 226 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 11: to do in today's environment out there where everything is 227 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 11: digitally captured. 228 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 2: Leila is last seen in an open field before seemingly 229 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 2: vanishing into thin air. Now her family is looking for 230 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 2: answers as to the whereabouts of the young Tennessee momus. 231 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 1: And where is Leila after a sick money grab where 232 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 1: the family gets threatening ransom texts threatening to chop Leila 233 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: into bits if money isn't forked over. This during the 234 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: search for the missing mom As it goes on, we 235 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 1: were just describing how Leila and the boyfriend that she 236 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 1: suddenly moves into after the death of her grandfather have 237 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: an argument. They have an argument, she takes off without 238 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 1: a cell phone. 239 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 12: Then what happens Saturday morning? Michael, Since Jennifer sendsanello a 240 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 12: message on Layla's Facebook profile, Jennifer is immediately worried. It's 241 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 12: unusual that Michael wouldn't know where Layla is. Michael says 242 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 12: he hasn't seen Leila in more than twenty four hours. 243 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 12: Jennifer spent several hours trying to track Layla down. Layla 244 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 12: isn't hospitalized anywhere. Finally, Jennifer's niece gets word from a 245 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 12: mutual friend that Layla spent the night at his house 246 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 12: and was okay when she left. 247 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: Okay, so there. Even after she takes off without a 248 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 1: cell phone, which destroys everybody because they can't get in 249 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 1: touch with her, we find out she's at a friend's house. Okay, 250 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: everything is okay. But finally we actually hear from Leelah herself. 251 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 2: Sunday morning, Jennifer Sonanela wakes up to another Facebook message, 252 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 2: this time from Layla. Laylah says she's okay and doing fine, 253 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 2: much to her mother's relief. Jennifer has a few questions, 254 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 2: but when Layla is vague, Jennifer assumes it's because Layla 255 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 2: knows Michael can access the count she doesn't want him 256 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 2: to know where she is. Leyla reminds her mom that 257 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 2: she isn't carrying a phone, but she'll do her best 258 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 2: to check in as much as possible. Jennifer's niece places 259 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 2: Leila out of friends again, confirming Layla borrowed their phone 260 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 2: to message her mom. Okay, Now we have a genuine lead. 261 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 1: I was suspicious about those messages because they didn't sound 262 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 1: like Leela and I don't have to talk about Gabby Petito, 263 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 1: who went on a cross country trip with fiance Brian Laundry. 264 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 1: He murdered her and was using her phone and her 265 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 1: Fortransit and her credit cards and her money, and was 266 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: texting odd texts. They wouldn't seem odd, probably to you 267 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 1: or to me, but to the family that was getting them, 268 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: they knew that wasn't Gabby. For instance, when she asked 269 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: about her grandfather, she said, in my case, well how's 270 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 1: Walter Malcolm and Grace Senior. She would never have said that. 271 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 1: She would be saying how's granddaddy? So they knew something 272 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:04,159 Speaker 1: was wrong. Well, they were right. It wasn't her texting. 273 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 1: It was Brian Laundry trying to give the appearance that 274 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 1: Gabby was still alive. However, in this case, there was 275 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:14,400 Speaker 1: another reason that Leela was not being forthcoming in her 276 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 1: text to Britney Zeitler, her stepmom, and George Emmett, her 277 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 1: father to Brittany, apparently because they shared the same cell phone. 278 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 1: And we had this occur recently in the case of 279 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 1: glam yoga instructor Caitlyn Armstrong, who murdered her boyfriend, Colin 280 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 1: Strickland's former girlfriend out of a fit of jealousy. She 281 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 1: the yoga instructor, was sharing an account with Colin Strickland, 282 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 1: the boyfriend, so when he was texting the victim Maureen, 283 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:52,919 Speaker 1: she could see it all. She could see it all. 284 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:56,640 Speaker 1: It pop right up on her iPad, right, So here, 285 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 1: do you believe that was Leila messaging but that she 286 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: was intentionally being vague because she shared that account with 287 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 1: the boyfriend that she just walked down on. Yes. 288 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:14,199 Speaker 7: Absolutely, We really did think that it was Leela for 289 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 7: the moment. So we you know, we're like, okay, maybe 290 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 7: she doesn't want to know where she is at. He 291 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 7: wants to stay away from her vice versa. So we 292 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 7: just let it be at that moment in time. But 293 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:34,439 Speaker 7: when we didn't hear from her voice, we started to question. 294 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 1: You know, what about it, George, When you found out 295 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 1: about that Facebook message, I'm fine, I'm at so and 296 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 1: so friend, and then that was corroborated by someone else. Yes, 297 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:50,159 Speaker 1: that's where she is. Everything's fine. At that point, you 298 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 1: were not concerned, is that right? Yeah? 299 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:57,679 Speaker 13: At that point I thought maybe she did get an 300 00:18:57,800 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 13: argument with them and Joy I didn't want to get 301 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 13: away from them at first, but then when I tried 302 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:04,880 Speaker 13: to reach out to her and didn't get a response back, 303 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 13: that's when I started getting a little nervous. 304 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 3: The case moves forward. Now it's Monday morning. Monday morning, 305 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:16,119 Speaker 3: Michael Thompson is becoming more insistent that he can't find Layla, 306 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:18,399 Speaker 3: claiming she asked him to pick her up from a 307 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 3: friend's house but wasn't there when he arrived. Jennifer still 308 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:24,879 Speaker 3: believes her daughter is avoiding Michael and doesn't want to 309 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 3: tip him off to where she is. Michael then reaches 310 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 3: out to Layla's dad, George Emmett, making him intensely worried. 311 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: Okay, right there, When did you become concerned, George? That 312 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 1: something was a mess. 313 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 6: When I texted her and I didn't get no response 314 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 6: the next day, That's when. 315 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 5: I was really worried because that's not like my daughter. 316 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 5: She picks up for me and I'm no matter what. 317 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 6: So that's when I really got worried and decided I 318 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 6: was going to call and. 319 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 5: Make a police report on my. 320 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 1: You know, I want to talk about what you just said, George, 321 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 1: joining me is Leila's father, George and stepmom Brittany Joining 322 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:12,400 Speaker 1: me now is a renowned defense attorney Ben at Powers. 323 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:17,120 Speaker 1: You can find them at Legal Powers online. Ben. Thank 324 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 1: you for being with us. Ben. It's called routine evidence. 325 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:24,439 Speaker 1: And I don't like that description because it sounds like 326 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:28,160 Speaker 1: you're talking about the typical, run of the mill, standard evidence. 327 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:31,719 Speaker 1: But what it means is evidence of someone's routine. 328 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 14: Right. 329 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 1: A routine a routine that you unintentionally carry out or 330 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:43,199 Speaker 1: repeat every day. I do the same thing every single 331 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 1: morning in an effort to get my children to school, 332 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:48,680 Speaker 1: take care of my mother who lives with us, take 333 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 1: care of a multitude of pets before I can start 334 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 1: my real job. Right. It's a routine that has been 335 00:20:56,080 --> 00:21:00,119 Speaker 1: perfected to save time and accomplish things. Right. That's a routine. 336 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:03,199 Speaker 1: And here, when George Emmitt says she didn't call, a 337 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:05,439 Speaker 1: lot of people will go, hey, I don't hear from 338 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 1: my daughter for two weeks at a time, and that's okay. 339 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 1: I called my mom and dad, say what you want 340 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,640 Speaker 1: every single day in the morning and at night, at 341 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:19,160 Speaker 1: a bare of minimum. That has been my routine. I 342 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,640 Speaker 1: wanted to hear from them. I wanted to hear their voice. 343 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:26,640 Speaker 1: So routine evidence is very powerful, being powers. I guess 344 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: some defense attorneys would argue it means nothing. 345 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:30,640 Speaker 5: I would say routine evidence can be important. 346 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 14: But under these circumstances, the routine was clearly turned upside. 347 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 5: Down and inside out. 348 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:38,959 Speaker 14: You know, she has a big argument with her boyfriend 349 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 14: that they're basically attached at the hill because of extenuating circumstances, 350 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 14: they're relegated to one phone instead of two, and so 351 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 14: she could be separated from him and the phone. She 352 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 14: could be separated from him with the phone. You know, 353 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 14: that type of distinction in the timeline definitely throws the 354 00:21:56,640 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 14: routine into question and isn't as reliable as maybe under 355 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:04,119 Speaker 14: regular circumstances that the routine usually exists within. 356 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,679 Speaker 4: She had to sit on and there was a pink 357 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 4: Teddy Bear exactly like literally the same color and everything, 358 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 4: and he was sitting in a chair and he was 359 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 4: holding her like this right, and I'm like this just 360 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:21,680 Speaker 4: in his lap. I took the pink Teddy Bear and 361 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:22,159 Speaker 4: I put. 362 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:22,199 Speaker 7: It in. 363 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 1: Teddy Bear George with me. This is Layla's dad. Why 364 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:30,919 Speaker 1: are you crying? 365 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 6: Devastating? That's been too long it's very stressful on me, 366 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:44,679 Speaker 6: my family. I just it's a lot. That's why I'm crying. 367 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 6: That's every parent's worst. 368 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 5: Nightmare, you know. 369 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:52,159 Speaker 1: And I was thinking, George, after you know, my fiance 370 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:57,200 Speaker 1: was murdered, I never ever thought that I could ever remarry, 371 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:00,439 Speaker 1: that I would ever have children. I thought that was 372 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 1: just a dream that was just over and it was. 373 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 1: It was for over twenty years. Then suddenly I have 374 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 1: a family. Can I tell you the greatest thing that 375 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 1: happened to me was having the twins. And let me 376 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 1: see those videos in your control room. I mean, this 377 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 1: was the time of Leela's life. She finally has Nova Grace, 378 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:40,640 Speaker 1: just the love of her life, finally happiness, she has 379 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 1: this beautiful baby girl. I mean, I guess most moms 380 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 1: out there would agree that's the best time of your 381 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 1: life when you finally have your children. And to think 382 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 1: she's snatched away from her daughter and now her daughter 383 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 1: George has patures in these videos that's it and says 384 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 1: things like do I even have a mommy? I mean, 385 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,120 Speaker 1: I get while you're crying, George. 386 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, she's all my granddaor is all I have left 387 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 6: of my daughter as of now? For two years Oh, 388 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:25,880 Speaker 6: it's really hard and devastate. I just want to answers 389 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 6: hell loove closure. 390 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 1: Guys, we left off, we left off where George is 391 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 1: now becoming extremely worried. Listen. 392 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 10: George calls Jennifer to discuss whether they should report Layla missing. 393 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 10: Extremely concerned after his last conversation with Michael based on 394 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 10: her last text conversation with Laila, Jennifer doesn't want to 395 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,159 Speaker 10: jump the gun. The parents decide to report Layla missing 396 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,640 Speaker 10: the next morning, which will be forty eight hours since 397 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 10: Layla's last contact with family. However, George can't shake the 398 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 10: feeling he needs to do something, and after several sleepless hours, 399 00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 10: makes an official report that Laylah Santonello is missing in 400 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 10: the early morning hours of June twenty seventh. 401 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 1: So George, since Michael Thompson, the boyfriend, and Layelah had 402 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 1: been so close joined at the hip following her grandfather's death, 403 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: When he is starting to ask you, where's Laila, you 404 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:20,479 Speaker 1: know something is really wrong. What prompted you to report 405 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:21,639 Speaker 1: her missing at that time? 406 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 6: Well, when I couldn't get a hold of her and 407 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 6: she didn't respond back to me, I already knew something 408 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 6: was wrong. 409 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 5: Something something was not right. 410 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 6: So when he was reaching out to me and sending 411 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 6: me text messages about not being able to find my 412 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,880 Speaker 6: daughter and everything, that just made it ten times worse 413 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:43,160 Speaker 6: for me. I mean I went right out there right away. 414 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 5: We hired a private detective. 415 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 6: We have a private detective that's been on the case 416 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,679 Speaker 6: since day one. 417 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 5: We have a private detective. 418 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 6: We've been We've drove from boys you Jorge to Tennessee 419 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 6: out several I can't many times already on behalf of 420 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 6: my daughter. 421 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 1: Then the searches on was George reports her missing and 422 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,399 Speaker 1: finally a lead listen. 423 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 12: Kingsport Police immediately began investigating, speaking with Michael Thompson and 424 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 12: his family around two am June twenty seventh. By the 425 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 12: end of the day, investigators have a lead. Layla checked 426 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 12: into the Americourt Hotel for the night of June twenty sixth. 427 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 12: Employees and other guests say Leyla seemed paranoid. Laila is 428 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 12: caught on CCTV knocking on doors to look for someone. 429 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:35,479 Speaker 1: Join me now, a very special guest. Rebecca McNairy, reporter 430 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: writer at Kingston Time News. Rebecca, thank you so much 431 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 1: for being with us. So who was she looking for 432 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 1: why are people there at the hotel describing her as 433 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 1: afraid of something? 434 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,679 Speaker 15: You know, going based off the facts that we have 435 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 15: received from the Kingsport Police Department and other local authorities, 436 00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 15: we have not been sure of who specifically she was 437 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 15: looking for. 438 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 8: We know that witnesses testified that she. 439 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 15: Was acting paranoid and looking for something, but the Kingsport 440 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 15: Police Department has not released any specific details regarding that 441 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 15: certain matter. 442 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 1: You know, Rebecca McNary, you're so right speaking of a 443 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 1: witness perceived good samaritan, this is what we learned. 444 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 16: Please let me help you. I have a room, My mom, 445 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,120 Speaker 16: my son are inside. You can sit down. I will 446 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 16: talk to you. How would do any tag him to 447 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 16: help you? She froze for a moment, full a breath, 448 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 16: and he was like, and she looked at my room, 449 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 16: She looked at me, and then she said no, I 450 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:40,199 Speaker 16: can't and she. 451 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 1: Just ran out and through the park came lot and. 452 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 3: That was a life I saw her. 453 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 1: Is that right, Rebecca mnary? She this good Samarita said, look, 454 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 1: what's wrong? Who are you looking for? Why are you afraid? 455 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:58,119 Speaker 1: And apparently Lila goes, no, no, I can't talk to 456 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 1: you about it. It takes off running. Yeah, that is. 457 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 5: Several witnesses accounts. 458 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 15: I believe the police department and local authorities have told 459 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 15: me that, But again I can't comment on that specifically 460 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 15: because the police department has not come forward with that 461 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:16,639 Speaker 15: specific information. 462 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 1: Where is a mom of one little nova grace? We're 463 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 1: talking about Layela? Do we finally have a bead or 464 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 1: where she may be? And now is this a break? Listen? 465 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 10: As police tried to determine Layla's next move, employees at 466 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,439 Speaker 10: the nearby warehouse provide another lead. Around six or fifteen 467 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 10: in the morning, Layla asks if she can bump a cigarette. 468 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 10: None of the men have smokes on them. Layla thanks 469 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 10: them anyway and walks away. The men say Layla was 470 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 10: perfectly polite and seemed coherent. Layla did appear slightly disheveled 471 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 10: with messy hair and grass and leaves on her back, 472 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 10: like she maybe had laid down in the field. 473 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 1: Now, how does a marble slab creamery fit into this 474 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 1: search for Laylah? We all know what that is? Very 475 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 1: popular ice cream place a shop. Listen. 476 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 3: An employee at a nearby ice cream shop, the Marble 477 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 3: Slab says, a blonde woman came into the store around 478 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 3: noon on the twenty seventh, with no shoes on. She 479 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 3: says the woman was very disheveled, wearing a white T 480 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 3: shirt and black luggings. The woman seemed somewhat incoherent and 481 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 3: made a comment about her husband wanting to kill her 482 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 3: before asking to borrow the employee's phone. 483 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 1: The woman walked. 484 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 3: Back out of the store, saying she wanted to head 485 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 3: to a nearby five below to buy shoes. When shown 486 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 3: a photo of Leila, the employee is convinced that's the 487 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 3: woman she spoke to. 488 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 1: Okay, we've all heard attacks on eyewitnesses, and in this 489 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 1: particular case, we hit a dead end. 490 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 12: Kingsport police intensely focused on the marble slab lead, checking 491 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 12: with several more nearby establishments. Authorities believe they are zeroing 492 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 12: in on Layla, but CCTV and phone records eventually proved 493 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 12: the employee was mistaken about the woman's identity. Officers tracked 494 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 12: the woman down, who confirms it was her in the 495 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 12: ice cream shop that afternoon, not Leila. 496 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 1: Santanello. Ah Crime Stories with Nancy Grace joining me, investigative 497 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 1: reporter and writer at the Kingsport Time needs Rebecca McNairy, Rebecca, 498 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:32,239 Speaker 1: that's devastating to get an eyewitness tip. The woman is 499 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 1: absolutely convinced this is Leelah that comes into Marble Slab 500 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 1: Creamery and she's disproved. Tell me what happened. The woman 501 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 1: was so convinced it was Leilah. 502 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 15: Yeah, according to report, she was convinced that she had 503 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 15: seen Layla. Again, the Kingsport Police investigated and that was 504 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 15: indeed not the case based off the records and the 505 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 15: surveillance footage that they had. But again, something like that 506 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:00,959 Speaker 15: where you think that you have a lead and then 507 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 15: instead is definitely devastating for the family that's trying to 508 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:05,720 Speaker 15: bring Leila home. 509 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 1: To Ben Powers joining US criminal defense attorney, Ben it's 510 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 1: also bad for an investigation, a potential trial in the 511 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 1: future because when you get a lead, an eyewitness lead, 512 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 1: and the woman is absolutely convinced she sees Leyla right 513 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 1: later on, a defense attorney can say, see, she saw 514 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 1: Layelah at this time on this date, and my client 515 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 1: on trial now was here in another state or whatever 516 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 1: fill in the blank. When you try, when you try 517 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 1: a case, you have to go down every avenue to 518 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 1: get to the truth. You can't leave anything out. But 519 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 1: when you go down those avenues, for instance, if you 520 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 1: name a person of interest or suspect too soon it 521 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 1: turns out to be wrong, that's a field day for 522 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 1: the defense, just like a false tip. 523 00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, I would agree. 524 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 14: I think the significance of the witness being mistaken as 525 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 14: it shows that police. 526 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 5: Went down the wrong thread. You know, it ultimately led to. 527 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 14: A Tom commitment from the investigation that ended with a 528 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 14: dead end in the investigation. So then they've got to 529 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 14: go back and figure out what direction do they take 530 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 14: the investigation. And so now that tim, that effort, that 531 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 14: dedication has been spent on something that wasn't fruitful. Oh yeah, 532 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 14: and something like this. You know, Tom is the enemy 533 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 14: of an investigation. The longer time goes on, the harder 534 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 14: the investigation gets. 535 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 10: Two weeks after Layla's disappearance, both mother and stepmother start 536 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 10: getting cash apt requests from Layla's account, but the message 537 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 10: is attached to the requests send chills down their spines. 538 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 10: They're keeping me hostage. I owe someone fifteen minutes or 539 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 10: you'll find her. In pieces and the acronym TWLMG panics, 540 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 10: the women send various amounts of money with messages like, 541 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 10: are you okay and call me in the hopes that 542 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 10: Laila would see them, also reporting the activity to Believes. 543 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:09,959 Speaker 1: Oh my stars, sick ransom text to Leilah's family, George Emmitt, 544 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 1: what happened at that point? 545 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 6: We got really scared, We got really nervous, and we 546 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 6: were willing to do whatever it took to try to 547 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 6: get a hold of her. 548 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 5: At that point. 549 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,280 Speaker 1: I mean, in all of her history, had Leyela ever 550 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 1: sent you a text or an email like that. 551 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 5: Never? 552 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 6: Never, So that's why we were very discerned and worried. 553 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 1: That somebody might actually threatened to chop her up. 554 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 5: Yes, correct, Yes, you know. 555 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 1: It's just actually making my stomach hurt. After all you 556 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 1: had been through, and someone is threatening to chop her 557 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:48,320 Speaker 1: up unless they get money. Look, we're showing you the 558 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 1: sick ransom text. I mean, Brittany, what went through your 559 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 1: mind when you get this? 560 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 7: I was in utter shock, and of course I reached 561 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 7: out to Jennifer. I reached out To's boyfriend Michael, and 562 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:05,960 Speaker 7: while I am on the phone with Michael, I'm like, 563 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 7: are you getting any cash up requests? Because I'm getting 564 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:14,879 Speaker 7: some right now, saying for abbreviations, and I gave him 565 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 7: you know TWMLG and he goes, oh, well, my brother 566 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,920 Speaker 7: says they won't let me go or they will let 567 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:22,239 Speaker 7: me go. 568 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 8: And I'm not processing everything that's going on at that moment. 569 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,279 Speaker 7: I'm just thinking, oh my god, how do we do this? 570 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 7: I want to hear her voice. I want to know 571 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 7: that she is in fact, okay, do they really have her? 572 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:35,279 Speaker 8: So there were so. 573 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 7: Many things just running through my mind as well as George's, 574 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:42,360 Speaker 7: and we were just dumbfounded, like, oh my, what do 575 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 7: we do? 576 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 8: Do we send all this money? 577 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,920 Speaker 7: Do we I dragged it out as much as I 578 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 7: possibly could to be able to get as much information 579 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 7: as I possibly can, and Jennifer and I were asking 580 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 7: questions like, you know, what's your youngest brother's name, what's 581 00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 7: your pop secret pass code? 582 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,799 Speaker 8: Only things that Leila can answer, and they were left 583 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:02,480 Speaker 8: and answered. 584 00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 1: So how did he the boyfriend know what t w 585 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 1: l MG means. It's not like he's I DK. I 586 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 1: don't know. I had to figure out what does t 587 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:14,799 Speaker 1: w l MG mean? And he knew it off the 588 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:15,279 Speaker 1: tip of his. 589 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 7: Tongue, That's what I was saying, And like I, of course, 590 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,920 Speaker 7: wasn't processing it at that exact moment. 591 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,879 Speaker 8: But once I had a moment to process everything. 592 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 7: On what was going on and rereading all of the 593 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:29,880 Speaker 7: messages and everything that I had sending it to the investigators, 594 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,879 Speaker 7: I was just like, wow, Like, I know, I got 595 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:37,719 Speaker 7: a lot going on, but how do you know exactly 596 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:38,760 Speaker 7: what that meant? 597 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 5: In an instance? 598 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 8: I was just I was roud. 599 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 1: I was roud. This is what Leila's mother has to 600 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:48,800 Speaker 1: say about that ransom text. 601 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 15: It's one thing for a stranger to try and capitalize 602 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 15: on something. 603 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 1: Like that the way that they that he did. 604 00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,320 Speaker 15: It's a whole other thing when it's someone. 605 00:35:59,080 --> 00:35:59,879 Speaker 5: That you care about. 606 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,840 Speaker 1: From our friends at News five wcy B to Rebecca 607 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:10,279 Speaker 1: McNary joining US reporter Kingsport Time News, who is he 608 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 1: who sent the ransom text threatening to talk Lala into bits? 609 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 15: Yeah, So police later found out during their investigation of 610 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:22,239 Speaker 15: that was her boyfriend at the time, Michael Thompson, who 611 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,760 Speaker 15: was sending those pretty alarming messages to Leyla's family about 612 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 15: two weeks after she was reported missing. He was later 613 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:33,359 Speaker 15: indicted by a grand jury here in Sulliwyn County on 614 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:38,240 Speaker 15: financial exploitation, credit card fraud, and identity theft. 615 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:42,480 Speaker 12: Thompson otherwise cooperates with the investigation, and neither family nor 616 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,959 Speaker 12: cops believe Thompson had anything to do with Layla's disappearance, 617 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:49,760 Speaker 12: but obviously tried to take advantage of this situation. Jennifer 618 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 12: Santanello claims Thompson has taken a polygraph test, but the 619 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:56,080 Speaker 12: results were inconclusive because he was not sober for the 620 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 12: five hour exam. 621 00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:00,200 Speaker 1: George, jam And, I want to confirm with you. Our 622 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:04,080 Speaker 1: sources have told us that you do not believe Thompson 623 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,120 Speaker 1: had anything to do with Layla's disappearance. 624 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:11,480 Speaker 6: No, I don't believe. Well, they cleared them first. First 625 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:12,319 Speaker 6: they cleared them. 626 00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:13,400 Speaker 8: How do you feel. 627 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 6: I feel he might know something or know some people 628 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:24,000 Speaker 6: that could be involved are whereabouts. That is possible, but 629 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:26,279 Speaker 6: he's not saying nothing for nobody. 630 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,320 Speaker 1: So guys, what about the search now. 631 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,240 Speaker 2: In addition to grid searches near the Americ Court Hotel, 632 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,240 Speaker 2: Kingsport PD have searched the home Laylah shared with Michael 633 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:38,800 Speaker 2: Thompson and served at least thirty more search warrants. Officers 634 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:42,000 Speaker 2: have also issued at least twenty five subpoenas. Officers remain 635 00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,920 Speaker 2: tight lipped about their most current leads to protect the investigation, 636 00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 2: but have searched several other locations in addition to the field, 637 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,320 Speaker 2: totaling six ground searches. 638 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:55,439 Speaker 1: To Rebecca McNary joining us from Kingsport, Time News tell 639 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 1: me about the search as it stands right now and 640 00:37:58,440 --> 00:37:59,000 Speaker 1: the reward. 641 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:04,080 Speaker 15: I know that the search the ground searches were subsided 642 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,920 Speaker 15: a little bit during the colder winter months, but that 643 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:10,239 Speaker 15: those are expected to pick up again here in the 644 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:15,320 Speaker 15: near future. As far as any kind of reward money, 645 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,000 Speaker 15: I'm not sure. I believe the last number that I 646 00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,880 Speaker 15: heard was around seven grand that her family was offering 647 00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:25,520 Speaker 15: do whoever had information about her whereabouts and disappearance. 648 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:29,440 Speaker 1: To George and Brittany. This case has taken so many 649 00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:34,840 Speaker 1: twists and turns, false reports of false siding that seems 650 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:40,560 Speaker 1: so credible. The ransom text just cold blooded ransom text, 651 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:45,479 Speaker 1: money grab. So where are we left? In my mind, 652 00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:49,120 Speaker 1: we're left with the warehouse workers that didn't have a 653 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:54,360 Speaker 1: cigarette seeing her walk off into a field. That's where 654 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:54,839 Speaker 1: we are. 655 00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:59,120 Speaker 6: What about it, George, That's where we are as of 656 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:04,400 Speaker 6: right now. That's the last known place that she was 657 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:05,280 Speaker 6: actually seen. 658 00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,480 Speaker 5: So that's all we know is of right now? 659 00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:09,520 Speaker 1: What about it? Brittany. 660 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,480 Speaker 7: Well, so even though that's all that we have at 661 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:16,000 Speaker 7: this time, we're going to continue to work as hard 662 00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:20,560 Speaker 7: as we can to figure out what direction she went. 663 00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,240 Speaker 8: And I call it the direction of the unknown. 664 00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:27,759 Speaker 7: Since it's been two years almost now, and I know, 665 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:31,840 Speaker 7: any type of surveillance footage that we have tried to 666 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:37,320 Speaker 7: grab off of weather cameras or any type of surveillance 667 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:42,040 Speaker 7: that our investigator had tried to pull, I know at 668 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:46,600 Speaker 7: this time it's definitely going to be extremely difficult. 669 00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:50,520 Speaker 8: To be able to pull. So we're got to just 670 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:51,959 Speaker 8: keep on search in and. 671 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:55,840 Speaker 7: Put ground searches in place to be able to gather 672 00:39:55,920 --> 00:40:00,680 Speaker 7: as much resources that we possibly can from nonprofit organizations. 673 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:03,360 Speaker 8: That offer out of our dogs. 674 00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:09,560 Speaker 7: Drones, extensive, yes, extensive, wide varieties of you know, needs 675 00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:12,560 Speaker 7: for Layela to be able to be found, since we 676 00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:16,240 Speaker 7: feel like we're working next little of nothing at this time. 677 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:19,640 Speaker 1: If you know or think you know anything about the 678 00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:24,760 Speaker 1: disappearance of Layelah Santanello, please dial four two three three 679 00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:30,439 Speaker 1: four three nine seven eight zero or toll free eight 680 00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:35,480 Speaker 1: hundred TB I find eight hundred eight two four three 681 00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:40,360 Speaker 1: four sixty three. There is a seven thousand dollars reward 682 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:45,000 Speaker 1: for information in the disappearance of Leyela, and that reward 683 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:51,560 Speaker 1: is growing. We now remember an American hero, Senior Deputy 684 00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:57,400 Speaker 1: Christopher Corzilias, Travis County Sheriff, Texas, passed away in the 685 00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:03,200 Speaker 1: line of duty, survived by grieving partner Bethany, mother Nancy, 686 00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:11,879 Speaker 1: father Paul, stepmom Patty. American hero Senior Deputy Christopher Grasilius, 687 00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,640 Speaker 1: Goodbye friend,