1 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 1: Welcome to Daily Variety, your daily dose of news and 2 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: analysis for entertainment industry insiders. It's Monday, December first, twenty 3 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: twenty five. I'm your host, Cynthia Littleton. I am co 4 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: editor in chief of Variety alongside Ramin Setuda. I'm in 5 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 1: LA He's in New York, and Righty has reporters around 6 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: the world covering the business of entertainment. On today's episode, 7 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: in our box office segment, we'll hear from Variety's Rebecca 8 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: Rubin on the Thanksgiving harvest, Zootopia, Io and Wicked for 9 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 1: Good did not disappoint, and that all sets up a 10 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:41,840 Speaker 1: strong finish to the end of the box office. Here, 11 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: Family audiences just consumed a whole lot of trailers, and 12 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: Mark Malkln catches up with Jeremy Allen White. White is 13 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 1: turning his attention back to filming The Bear after spending 14 00:00:52,280 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: a season in Bruce Springsteen's shoes. But before we get 15 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: to that, here are a few headlines just in this 16 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: morning that you need to know. Three insiders are digging 17 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 1: out their inboxes after a mostly quiet long Thanksgiving weekend. 18 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: Not that we needed proof, but we got proof that 19 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 1: America loves the Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade. Some thirty four 20 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: point three million people watched the parade across NBC and Peacock. 21 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:19,119 Speaker 1: Some of us watched it more than once. The Academy 22 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 1: of Country Music Awards are headed back to Las Vegas 23 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:25,199 Speaker 1: next year after three years in Texas. The sixty first 24 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 1: annual ACM Kudos are set for May seventeenth at the 25 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: MGM Grand Garden Arena and will air live on Amazon, 26 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: Prime Video and Twitch. And let's not forget that the 27 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 1: Golden Globe Award nominations will be out one week from today, 28 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: on December eighth. The biggest news, of course, that we're 29 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:44,919 Speaker 1: awaiting word on, is from a new round of bids 30 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: that are expected today for Warner Brothers Discovery. More to 31 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: come on that, as we know it later this week. 32 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 1: All of these stories ends so much more can be 33 00:01:53,480 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: found on Variety dot com right now. Now it's time 34 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 1: for conversations with Friday journalists about news and trends in 35 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 1: show business. If it's Monday, we're talking box office with 36 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: Rebecca Rubin, Variety's senior film and media reporter. Zutopia two 37 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: has delivered twenty twenty five's biggest box office opening hands down. 38 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 1: There's a lot to discuss, and nobody knows this marketplace 39 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: better than Variety's box office chief, Rebecca Rubin, you have 40 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: definitely been busy writing this morning. What a weekend. 41 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 2: It was a great weekend for sure, and the second 42 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 2: consecutive big weekend, which is important because the box office 43 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 2: has been struggling, and Zoutopia two delivered a huge debut 44 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 2: of one hundred and fifty six million dollars domestically and 45 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 2: fifty six million dollars globally. If you can believe that, 46 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 2: that's the fourth biggest opening weekend in box office history, 47 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 2: which you might not expect for Zoutopia two. 48 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 1: Rebecca, you flagged this three months ago as this is 49 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: something that exhibitors were watching for. But as you say, 50 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 1: even among Disney franchises, it's not the splashiest, but boy, 51 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 1: America's families showed up. 52 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 2: People might not remember the first Utopia came out in 53 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 2: twenty sixteen and it did make a billion dollars, And 54 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 2: so clearly there's a lot of goodwill for this property 55 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 2: and all year, starting in the beginning of the year 56 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 2: when I spoke to exhibitors, when I asked them what 57 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 2: movie they were most excited for nearly everybody says Utopia too, 58 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 2: just because it is such a big property among families. 59 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: That's called reporting. That's why you are such a good 60 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 1: box office analyst. Was there anything that stood out to 61 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 1: you about the performance domestically? 62 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 2: It definitely just delivered all over. And what's notable here 63 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 2: is this is the second best Thanksgiving launch of all time, 64 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 2: and that's behind another Disney sequel, which was last year's 65 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 2: Mowana II, and that film opened to two hundred and 66 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 2: twenty five million over the five days, which is just 67 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 2: an absolutely massive number. To give you some context. In 68 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 2: third place, the third biggest Thanksgiving release of all time 69 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 2: is you guessed it, another Disney sequel, twenty nineteen's Frozen two, 70 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 2: and that film made one hundred and twenty five million 71 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 2: over the five days. So Zutopia to the performance is 72 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 2: a little more in line with Frozen. Ma Wana two 73 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 2: is just such a juggernaut. But Zutopia two has really 74 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 2: excellent word of mouth that has an a Cinema score 75 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 2: and reviews from critics are really strong, which means it 76 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 2: will probably appeal not just to families but also just 77 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 2: general audiences and that will separate it from the films 78 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 2: this year that haven't been able to crack the billion 79 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 2: dollar benchmarkt and just. 80 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 1: Seeing these numbers reminded me we really haven't been talking 81 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: about family films. There haven't been that many. Those that 82 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: have been haven't really broken out. 83 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 2: Another reason why this film overperformed to the degree it 84 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 2: did is, just like you said, there has not been 85 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 2: a big animated family film in a while. The last 86 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 2: animated movie was The Bad Guys two in August and 87 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 2: it did modest business, but nothing on this scale. This 88 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 2: is the biggest animated film since mull one to two 89 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 2: a year ago, and so there's definitely a lot of 90 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 2: pent up demand from families who are looking for reasons 91 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 2: to leave the house when they have so many options 92 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 2: at home. It needs to be something really special to 93 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 2: take the whole family to the movies, and you were 94 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 2: really watching the Thanksgiving the four day frame of it 95 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 2: all right. Thanksgiving typically has been a very popular time 96 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 2: to go to the movies, but then post pandemic, it 97 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 2: was struggling a lot. There were some animated movies like 98 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 2: Disney's Wish that came out a few years ago and 99 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:56,359 Speaker 2: nobody really went to see it, and there was genuine concern. 100 00:05:56,440 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 2: It is Thanksgiving no longer a really popular period anymore. 101 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:02,840 Speaker 2: And then the last two years we've seen a real 102 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 2: true return to form and it's funny it's had a 103 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 2: pretty similar formula, which is a Wicked movie and then 104 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 2: a Disney animated sequel. So last year was the first 105 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 2: half of Wicked and Mawana two. This year it's the 106 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:18,799 Speaker 2: second half of Wicked, which had a great second weekend, 107 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:22,600 Speaker 2: and then of course Zootopia two. And so what's interesting 108 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 2: is in these two consecutive years, these are both PG 109 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 2: films that are targeting all audiences, and they've both really 110 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:34,719 Speaker 2: thrived with each other and they're not cutting into the audience. 111 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 2: And so it's showing that if there are two movies 112 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 2: that are of quality and people want to see, they 113 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 2: will go to see both. They're not necessarily cannibalizing each other. 114 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 1: Or I want to talk about the incredible international box 115 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 1: office for Zootopia two. But before we leave domestic land, 116 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 1: how did Wicked for Good do in its long second weekend? 117 00:06:55,600 --> 00:07:00,040 Speaker 2: So Wicked for Good had a great second weekend. It 118 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 2: made a ninety three million over the five day period 119 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 2: that's from Wednesday to Sunday, which is what theater owners 120 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 2: count as the Thanksgiving stretch, and right now it's having 121 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 2: a steeper drop than the first film. The first film 122 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 2: had a really excellent hold in its second weekend, but 123 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 2: since Wicked for Good had a much bigger opening, it's 124 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 2: still pacing slightly ahead of the first film. And so 125 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 2: it's made two hundred and seventy million dollars domestically and 126 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 2: nearly four hundred million globally after just ten days. And 127 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 2: I think sometimes it's easy to just assume that a 128 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 2: movie like Wicked for Good is going to be huge, 129 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 2: But with musicals, it's just such a hit or miss 130 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 2: genre that for a musical to have made nearly four 131 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 2: hundred million dollars in just less than two weeks is 132 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:52,679 Speaker 2: pretty remarkable and a true testament to what an event 133 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 2: Universal has turned the film into. And people from all 134 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 2: walks of life over Thanksgiving are talking about going to 135 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 2: see the film and so definitely expecting that to remain 136 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 2: a force throughout December. 137 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 1: Okay, let's talk international for Zootopia too. I mean, the 138 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: number was pretty incredible. Do you think that that four 139 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 1: hundred million blew away even Disney's estimate? 140 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, especially in China, that was such a big turnout. 141 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 2: It made two hundred and seventy two million dollars there 142 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 2: in its first five days, and that's a really remarkable 143 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 2: number because Hollywood movies have really struggled in China since 144 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 2: the pandemic. For a while, China wasn't even really letting 145 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 2: in Hollywood films, and pre pandemic, that was such an 146 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 2: important market and then to have lost it really put 147 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 2: a damper on the performance of a lot of these 148 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 2: big budget films that had relied on the grosses in 149 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 2: China to recoup their budgets. And so for a film 150 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:53,679 Speaker 2: like this too, I think it's already got one of 151 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 2: the highest grossing Hollywood films in China after just five 152 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 2: days in post pandemic times, and so it just speaks 153 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 2: to the interest there. The first film was beloved in China. 154 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 2: It made two hundred and thirty six million dollars there 155 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:12,079 Speaker 2: in its entire theatrical run, So the second film has 156 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 2: already surpassed the entire run of the first film. Just 157 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 2: to show how much it has exploded in popularity. 158 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 1: That you had a detail in your story that just 159 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: made me swoon for your expertise as a box office 160 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 1: analyst about something that also might have built up anticipation 161 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: and excitement around this movie in China. 162 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 2: The first film was quite popular in China, but in 163 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 2: the time since there is a Utopia land that opened 164 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 2: at Shanghai Disney the theme park, and that is really 165 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:45,719 Speaker 2: what Disney was looking at to gauge how popular z 166 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 2: Utopia two was in China, and since that land has 167 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 2: been a big attraction, they knew that Chinese audiences were 168 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 2: really into this franchise. 169 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 1: It's all connected, it's all connected. That just does show 170 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: you the level of Disney muscle and the things that 171 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: influence their franchise management. Well, that was a lot to unpack, Rebecca. 172 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 1: I know we still have an Avatar movie to come, 173 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 1: but what are you paying attention to next weekend? 174 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 2: What's going to be really interesting is Universal is opening 175 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 2: five nights at Freddy's two in the first weekend of December, 176 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 2: and that is usually a week and that is a 177 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 2: dead zone. Studios kind of avoid it because it's in 178 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 2: that between holidays slump, maybe people aren't going to the movies. 179 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 2: But the first five nights at Freddy's was a massive, 180 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 2: massive hit. And even if it doesn't do the business 181 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 2: that the first movie did. It's still going to be 182 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:41,839 Speaker 2: a very nice lift for that early December period. That'll 183 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 2: be interesting to see how it does because typically theater 184 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 2: owners would then have to wait for a movie like 185 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 2: Avatar to open in a few weeks to get another 186 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 2: big boost. But it seems like attendance might be a 187 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 2: little steadier through the month of December, and that is 188 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 2: going to be very needed to get the domestic box 189 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 2: office trying to reach nine billion dollars. It's at seven 190 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 2: point five right now, so it definitely has a lot 191 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 2: of work cut out for it for the end of 192 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 2: the year. Having releases staggered through December will definitely help. 193 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 1: Here's hoping for a very strong finish. Rebecca, thank you 194 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: again for sorting this all out for us. Always appreciate 195 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:19,560 Speaker 1: your expertise. 196 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 2: Thank you for having me. 197 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 1: After all the talk of Thanksgiving weekend records, I dove 198 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: into the variety of archives and looked at our coverage 199 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: for Thanksgiving weekend in nineteen ninety. Home Alone was the 200 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 1: surprise runaway hit that year. I learned that distributor twentieth 201 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 1: Century Fox used the wicked playbook of opening Home Alone 202 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 1: the weekend before Thanksgiving. That made the movie perfectly placed 203 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 1: for word of mouth business over the following four day frame. 204 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 1: Fox tried an interesting strategy back then, suggesting they knew 205 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 1: they had a sleeper hit on their hands. Home Alone 206 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 1: played for two weekends in about one thousand theaters, and 207 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:04,199 Speaker 1: then expanded wider the weekend after Thanksgiving, and it held 208 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:08,679 Speaker 1: the number one slot for ten more weeks. Incredible. It's 209 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 1: always instructive to look back at the past and find 210 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:14,079 Speaker 1: those signposts for the future. And now we'll hear from 211 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:17,199 Speaker 1: Mark Malcolm as he catches up with Jeremy Allen White. 212 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 3: Thanks Cynthia. I caught up with Jeremy Allen White the 213 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 3: other day to talk about his Awards buzzy work. It's 214 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 3: Bruce Springsteen and Scott Cooper. Springsteen delivered Me from Nowhere Well. 215 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:28,959 Speaker 3: White did his own singing and guitar playing in the movie, 216 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 3: which chronicles the making of the musician's nineteen eighty two 217 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 3: album Nebraska, as he was battling depression and other mental 218 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 3: health issues. He also thought about using prosthetics to transform 219 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 3: into the Boss, including something to give him an underbikee. 220 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 4: Ultimately, Scott and I wanted this performance to be one 221 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 4: that was internalized in that you know, we were going 222 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 4: from the inside out right, not from the outside in, 223 00:12:55,960 --> 00:13:01,559 Speaker 4: and we thought, let's not distract people with these pieces. 224 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:04,959 Speaker 3: White is also taking on another real person while street 225 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 3: journal reporter Jeff Horwitz in Aaron Sorkin's upcoming The Social 226 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 3: Network sequel, The Social Reckoning. Like so many of us, 227 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 3: White struggles with his social media use. 228 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 4: I've had a certain curiosity and sort of like a 229 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 4: questioning my you know, dependency on this stuff for a 230 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 4: long time. 231 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 3: But there is one thing that's helping curb that dependency. 232 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 3: White told me. He uses an iPhone twelve one that 233 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 3: is broken and limits when he can be on the apps. 234 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 4: So I actually can't go on in story for Twitter 235 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 4: or online unless I have Wi Fi, And so unless 236 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:45,439 Speaker 4: I'm home, I'm not going to ask for Wi Fi 237 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 4: wherever I'm going, so I don't use it as much. 238 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,199 Speaker 3: For more of my interview with White, he also reveals 239 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 3: when he starts shooting The Bear season five. Go to 240 00:13:52,720 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 3: Variety dot Com as we close out today's episode. 241 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 1: So here's a few things we're watching for. Don't skip. 242 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 1: Owen Gleiberman's review of The New Yorker at one hundred 243 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:10,319 Speaker 1: he loved the documentary and says it's a tight, ninety 244 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 1: six minute tribute to the publication's influence and its quote 245 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 1: steak of serious delight end quote. The documentary drops December 246 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 1: fifth on Netflix. Don't miss my Colleagalic Schaeffer's report on 247 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: Paddington the Musical and how they brought the bear and 248 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 1: his famous blue duffelcoat to life. It's a great read. 249 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 1: It's a busy week for us at Variety. 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Before we 258 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 1: go regrets to Sarah Paulson, the Emmy winner and fabulous actress, 259 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 1: will get her star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame tomorrow, 260 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 1: December second. Her Chunk of the sidewalk is right next 261 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: to her longtime collaborator Ryan Murphy. It's a block and 262 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 1: a half from Musso and Frank. Thanks for listening. This 263 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 1: episode was written and reported by me Cynthia Littleton, with 264 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 1: contributions from Rebecca Rubin and Mark Malcolm Steak Snake's hick Picks. 265 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 1: Please leave us a review at the podcast platform of 266 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 1: your choice, and please tune in tomorrow for another episode 267 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 1: of Daily Variety. And don't forget to tell us what 268 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: you think at podcasts at Variety dot com.