WEBVTT - Give Up the Grind

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<v Speaker 1>Good morning, peeps, and welcome to Woke f Daily with

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<v Speaker 1>Meet your Girl Danielle Moody. Pre recording from my Brooklyn Silarium. Folks,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really excited this Friday to finally end the week

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<v Speaker 1>with something that is good, to leave you with a

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<v Speaker 1>feel good Friday, which is my conversation with my friend

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<v Speaker 1>Rici kat Oki Day, who is the co founder of

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<v Speaker 1>the Apothecary Stroke, which I have talked about on this

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<v Speaker 1>show many times before. She's also one of the co

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<v Speaker 1>founders for Black Sisters Magic. We have a conversation today

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<v Speaker 1>about wellness, about what it means to detach ourselves from

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<v Speaker 1>grind and hustle culture and sing right and reading ourselves

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<v Speaker 1>from the guilt of needing to and wanting to rest.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that I've talked about this with you all

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<v Speaker 1>many a times where I feel guilty. I feel guilty

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<v Speaker 1>taking time off. I feel guilty being in my home

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<v Speaker 1>and not doing something, whether it is picking up something

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<v Speaker 1>or folding something or putting things away like just laying down.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I should be doing something. And that

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<v Speaker 1>is because of the lie that we have been told,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly as black and brown people, that our only, our

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<v Speaker 1>only worth is through what it is that we produce,

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<v Speaker 1>and when you think about why we were brought here

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<v Speaker 1>and for what function it was to serve, it was

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<v Speaker 1>to be human machines. And so you continue to grow mind,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we create an entire society of bullshit that

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<v Speaker 1>tells us that if we seek rest, that we're being

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<v Speaker 1>self indulgent or we're being lazy, and that if you

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<v Speaker 1>are not booked and busy, if you are not telling

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<v Speaker 1>everybody like, oh my god, I'm so exhausted. And this

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<v Speaker 1>is something that I learned in twenty twenty, which is

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<v Speaker 1>that exhaustion is not a badge of fucking honor. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>And Risci Cat will talk to us about a phrase

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<v Speaker 1>that I had never heard of until she mentioned it

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<v Speaker 1>in our conversation, which is weathering. You know, there is

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<v Speaker 1>always this joke in the black community about how black

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't crack, about how you can look at a black

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<v Speaker 1>woman who may in fact be sixty years old, but

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<v Speaker 1>look damn near twenty five, And that's always the joke.

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<v Speaker 1>But the term weathering that she will tell us about

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<v Speaker 1>happens on the inside from the stress, from the anxiety,

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<v Speaker 1>from the grief, from the trauma that wears us down,

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<v Speaker 1>and now our life expectancy is becoming less not more so.

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<v Speaker 1>While we may be holding things together on the outside,

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<v Speaker 1>we are literally crumbling on the inside. And so when

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<v Speaker 1>we start to think and reprogram ourselves from the desire

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<v Speaker 1>to just keep grinding ourselves into the ground into pulp.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I had a conversation with another friend of

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<v Speaker 1>mine who said, you spend sixty five years right roughly right,

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<v Speaker 1>You not from birth, you're not working from birth, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know you start going to school. But from the

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<v Speaker 1>age of let's say twenty eighteen right to sixty five,

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<v Speaker 1>you are working, right, because that is the arbitrary age

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<v Speaker 1>that America has decided that you can not work. And

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<v Speaker 1>then we will give you some of the money that

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<v Speaker 1>you've put into the system back to you. And if

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<v Speaker 1>your life expectancy, think about this is at what maybe

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<v Speaker 1>maybe it's seventy five, maybe it's eighty. By the time

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<v Speaker 1>that you have the ability to rest, you are either

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<v Speaker 1>sick right, exhausted, can't move, broken down because you've given everything,

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<v Speaker 1>every bit of yourself to capitalism, right to the grind,

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<v Speaker 1>to somebody else's company, organization, and nothing to yourself. And

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<v Speaker 1>so if we don't begin to reprogram ourselves, to strip

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<v Speaker 1>away the guilt, to find ways to rest and to

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<v Speaker 1>restore and to recharge. Then we are going to see

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<v Speaker 1>not only is everything around us crumbling, but we will

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<v Speaker 1>crumble as well. So I hope that you enjoy this

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<v Speaker 1>conversation with my friend Risci Cat. Tell me in the

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<v Speaker 1>comments section if you've heard of the term weathering, because

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<v Speaker 1>I had not, and I'd love to hear where you

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<v Speaker 1>heard it and what that definition was. So coming up

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<v Speaker 1>is that conversation, and I hope you all enjoy. Friends.

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<v Speaker 1>I am so excited to welcome back to willke af

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<v Speaker 1>Daily after far too long. Frankly, my friend, the brilliant

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<v Speaker 1>Risci Cat Okaday, who is a professor cultural architect, co

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<v Speaker 1>founder strobe Apothecary, which, by the way, if you're not

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<v Speaker 1>following on Instagram you absolutely should be um, as well

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<v Speaker 1>as the co founder of Black Magic Sisters, also on Instagram,

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<v Speaker 1>UM that you should be following as well. Rissy. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we are living in some god awful, precarious,

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<v Speaker 1>some end of days type shit, and so before we

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<v Speaker 1>jump in, I just want to ask you, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>as my friend you know and and fellow sister in

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<v Speaker 1>Black girl Magic, How are you doing? How are you

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<v Speaker 1>feeling these days? So today is a good day. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I made soup. So I was really excited about that.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, you know what, the day is the

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<v Speaker 1>day that I stopped letting the butternut squash and my friends,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, die and to make it into sup. So

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<v Speaker 1>I did that. Um, it's been rough. It's been really rough. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we it's a dumpster fire that we're living in.

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<v Speaker 1>And I feel like what I suspect those artists and

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<v Speaker 1>those intellectuals when Ancient Rome was coming to an end,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I feel like we're watching that happen with this country.

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<v Speaker 1>It's this existential crisis almost like well shit, what the

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<v Speaker 1>hell is this gonna look like? You know? Um? So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's been a bit rough. You know. I just released

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<v Speaker 1>I started the podcast back up, and I knew I

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't start the new season without talking about the loss

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<v Speaker 1>of my friend Simone Briziando, And so I was such

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<v Speaker 1>a nervous rut getting that thing together and putting it

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<v Speaker 1>out into the world because I was just like, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't even remember what I said. I just knew I

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<v Speaker 1>had to do it. And so that has kind of

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<v Speaker 1>opened up some things, and it's just been you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just it's been a lot of sleep. I've been

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<v Speaker 1>sleeping a lot and making soup. So it's it's funny

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<v Speaker 1>that you say that because I, you know, all the

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<v Speaker 1>time on woke AF I've been talking, you know, to

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<v Speaker 1>the listeners about the importance of rest, the importance of recharging,

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<v Speaker 1>the importance of grounding. And you know, I always think

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<v Speaker 1>about you, Riscie. I have to say, because I can

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<v Speaker 1>remember fifteen some odd years ago you telling me about grounding,

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<v Speaker 1>you telling me that rest, and me really rolling my

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<v Speaker 1>eyes that you talking about I don't have really, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have time for that. You know, I'm politicking and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing the things I don't have time for that.

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<v Speaker 1>And now recognizing that, oh big sister was correct in

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that, oh, these tools and tactics, then I'm

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<v Speaker 1>telling you, dear young Danielle that you need to implement

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<v Speaker 1>are important like they you know, they are life saving. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>how do you? How have you? You know? And to

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<v Speaker 1>be fair to wait and to be fair I have

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<v Speaker 1>to do mean to cut you off, but to be

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<v Speaker 1>fair in a true Nigerian fashion, I give unsolicited advice

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<v Speaker 1>all the time that I myself to be taken, but

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<v Speaker 1>I don't always take so while when I'm telling you,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm telling me too, just I just want to be fair.

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<v Speaker 1>No that I mean that is true. I give it

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<v Speaker 1>wonderful advice to be bold. Man, I do not take

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<v Speaker 1>myself namely rest right like, namely actually trying these days

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<v Speaker 1>when I tell people to take time for themselves, when

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<v Speaker 1>I tell people to figure out what tactics, and this

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<v Speaker 1>is what I want to talk about right now, is

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<v Speaker 1>that you know, because everything is such a dumpster fire,

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<v Speaker 1>because it doesn't look like regardless of if you're a

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<v Speaker 1>person that readily follows politics or not, everything everything seems

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<v Speaker 1>to be up for grabs and up in smoke. Right now,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to talk to you about how one develops

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<v Speaker 1>these tactics and principles of living that where that allows

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<v Speaker 1>you to both recognize what's transpiring but not become consumed

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<v Speaker 1>by it. So how how did you, you know, just

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<v Speaker 1>begin to begin that begin these practices, you know, as

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<v Speaker 1>a way to kind of help guide other people that

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<v Speaker 1>are just like I don't know what to do. I

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<v Speaker 1>just want to pull my hair out or I just

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<v Speaker 1>want to drink myself into a stupor. I just want

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<v Speaker 1>to do these things that at the end of the

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<v Speaker 1>day have negative impacts right on us. And so, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's all good and fine. My mother had been telling

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<v Speaker 1>me to meditate for you know, for for fifteen twenty years,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just started a practice in twenty twenty. So

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<v Speaker 1>what does that look like for you? So I think

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<v Speaker 1>part of what we have to do, I think it

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<v Speaker 1>looks like so I am on a I'm on a

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<v Speaker 1>constant journey of you know, stay, watch, dry, repeat, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just trying to figure out what's gonna say, what's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>go In terms of my daily practice, I'm you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's inner miss depends on the day. I do

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<v Speaker 1>think though, part of what particularly black and brown folks

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<v Speaker 1>were actually members of the global majority, who are you know,

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<v Speaker 1>part of a working class situation? Rest has been weaponized

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<v Speaker 1>against us. It has been made to feel like if

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<v Speaker 1>you sleep too much, if you rest too much, if

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<v Speaker 1>you weep in that you're lazy. Like I had to

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<v Speaker 1>tell a niece, a friend, a cousin of mine recently,

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<v Speaker 1>She's like, yeah, I've just been really tired and I

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<v Speaker 1>just feel really lazy. I was like, You're not allowed

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<v Speaker 1>to use that word anymore. We're not going to use

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<v Speaker 1>lazy as a word to describe who you are, because

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<v Speaker 1>you're anything but that. And what happens is that is

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<v Speaker 1>a particularly an African household, that is a word that

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<v Speaker 1>is weaponized at all times. The wing you never want

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<v Speaker 1>to be considered is lazy. But you know, most of

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<v Speaker 1>us then don't really rest until we're sick or dying

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<v Speaker 1>as a result, I don't remember sleeping in as a kid.

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<v Speaker 1>My first sleeping in experience happened while I was away

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<v Speaker 1>at college. I'd never actually slept in. I didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>what that meant to stay in bed longer than you

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<v Speaker 1>know the rising time. And so part of what I've

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<v Speaker 1>had to do is I've had to understand how my

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<v Speaker 1>relationship with rest is really a big part of like

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<v Speaker 1>a larger conditioning that is big, that is anti black

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<v Speaker 1>in a lot of ways, colonial in a lot of ways,

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<v Speaker 1>and dangerous across the board. My body is a barometer,

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<v Speaker 1>and what I've learned in these pasts, and particularly in

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<v Speaker 1>this pandemic madness, is that I don't know what my

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<v Speaker 1>body looks like unstressed. I've been stressed most of my life.

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<v Speaker 1>Even as a kid, I had stress because I was

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<v Speaker 1>a latchkey kid. And so when I do get sleep,

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<v Speaker 1>it shows up in my body a bit differently. Now

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<v Speaker 1>I've been conditioned to believe that I don't need much sleep,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I I will run for you know, for weeks

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<v Speaker 1>on three four hours a night. You know. Science says

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<v Speaker 1>that shit is insane. You're not supposed to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to do that, but I've learned how to do that

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<v Speaker 1>because of this mentality around, you know, struggle and hustle

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<v Speaker 1>and all of these things like you know, sleep when

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<v Speaker 1>I'm dead. I used to say shit like that, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's not dumb, but what it is I supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>be the grind culture, you know, And when you think

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<v Speaker 1>about what a grind is, you're literally pulverizing yourself into

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<v Speaker 1>dusty bits. That's not cute. And so what I've had

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<v Speaker 1>to do, and I started doing this probably about ten

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<v Speaker 1>or fifteen years ago, not so much resting, but understanding

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<v Speaker 1>language first. So I stopped saying grind. I stopped saying

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<v Speaker 1>multiple jobs, like I tell people multiple streams of income,

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<v Speaker 1>not multiple jobs. You know. I say, I don't grind,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't hustle. I just do and when you change

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<v Speaker 1>the language, I think that's how you open the door

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<v Speaker 1>to understand that staying still resting, because it's something I

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<v Speaker 1>struggle with all the time, is really necessary. It's actually

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<v Speaker 1>part of the growth process to rest and really and

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<v Speaker 1>sort of you know, think about what did you do,

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<v Speaker 1>how well did you do it? What could you change?

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<v Speaker 1>Like if there's never if there's never rest, if you

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<v Speaker 1>don't rest, there's no time for reflection. So if you're

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<v Speaker 1>only sleeping because your body absolutely you need to do,

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<v Speaker 1>then you're not actually reflecting on what you've actually accomplished.

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<v Speaker 1>And one of the things the pandemic has brought into

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<v Speaker 1>very harsh light for me is how my tendency towards

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<v Speaker 1>multiple things at the same time, which gives me joy.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have rest built into those spaces. So it

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<v Speaker 1>hit me a couple weeks ago it's like, Yo, I've

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<v Speaker 1>been doing this really dope shit and I haven't really

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<v Speaker 1>had a chance to actually stop and be like, Yo,

0:14:46.840 --> 0:14:50.200
<v Speaker 1>you're doing really dope shit. So there's no place for reflection.

0:14:50.240 --> 0:14:53.320
<v Speaker 1>It's just on to the next because that's part of

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<v Speaker 1>my conditioning. So language is language shift is important because

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<v Speaker 1>if you don't shift your language. If you don't under

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<v Speaker 1>stand that rest doesn't mean stop, it just means reflect,

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<v Speaker 1>then rest feels like, oh, you're trying to hold me down,

0:15:06.840 --> 0:15:08.920
<v Speaker 1>you're not trying to let me be great. And I'm like, no, really,

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<v Speaker 1>can you just take a minute to think about all

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<v Speaker 1>the dope shit you did and kind of basking that

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<v Speaker 1>for a little bit. It's okay to you know, to

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<v Speaker 1>celebrate that win by you know, taking a week off

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<v Speaker 1>to just sleep, And it's okay if you sleep through

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<v Speaker 1>a whole bunch of stuff, you know, it's absolutely fine.

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<v Speaker 1>So really kind of thinking about how racism and all

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<v Speaker 1>the other isms, particularly for black women, how it is

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<v Speaker 1>it's keeping a sleep deprived because Black women especially are

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<v Speaker 1>made to feel like if they're not doing this that

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<v Speaker 1>in third and you know, still and still looking cute

0:15:42.000 --> 0:15:44.680
<v Speaker 1>on top of all of that, that they're somehow failing.

0:15:44.760 --> 0:15:48.480
<v Speaker 1>And the reality is that there's a term called weathering

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<v Speaker 1>that is a medical term for what happens to our

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<v Speaker 1>bodies on the inside as a result of of stress.

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<v Speaker 1>And while black does not crack on the outside, somebody

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<v Speaker 1>can be like, you know, fifteen, it looked like twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five on the inside. They're now starting to see that

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<v Speaker 1>black women are aging fashion than everyone else on the inside,

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<v Speaker 1>which is why people are dropping dead. A heart attacks

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<v Speaker 1>at like forty five. You know, may look good right

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<v Speaker 1>the inside your body is, Oh, this is a bullshit,

0:16:20.000 --> 0:16:23.640
<v Speaker 1>And you know what we're done? You know you said so.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean so many things, and I want to backtrack

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<v Speaker 1>to one of them, which is about unpacking racism around

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<v Speaker 1>rest for black and brown people in particular, and I,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I want to speak to that for a

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<v Speaker 1>moment because even though this is still a new practice

0:16:43.720 --> 0:16:46.320
<v Speaker 1>to me, it's twenty twenty one, and this is something,

0:16:46.600 --> 0:16:50.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, resting, reflecting, recharging is something that I have

0:16:51.080 --> 0:16:57.200
<v Speaker 1>only been really doing over the last like year plus.

0:16:57.640 --> 0:17:02.000
<v Speaker 1>Right before that, if I wasn't hustling, if I wasn't grinding,

0:17:02.120 --> 0:17:05.960
<v Speaker 1>then I wasn't making shit happen, right. I am still

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<v Speaker 1>struggling a year plus into this new sense of this

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<v Speaker 1>new sense of rest as a way to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>delve into my creativity. I'm still struggling with the guilt

0:17:18.000 --> 0:17:22.280
<v Speaker 1>around it. Received Like I cannot tell you that even

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<v Speaker 1>you know, even over the over the you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>recent holiday of you know, taking time off of taking

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<v Speaker 1>time off of the show, taking time off of writing,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, but then record like jam packing and

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<v Speaker 1>all of this recording and all of this stuff ahead

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<v Speaker 1>of the rest time, so that I could leave the

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<v Speaker 1>audience knowing that no, no, no no, I got you. You're

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<v Speaker 1>taken care of, even after having done four days of

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<v Speaker 1>work in two days. Right, and I'm sitting getting ready

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<v Speaker 1>to put my feet up on my parents couch. I'm like,

0:17:55.800 --> 0:17:59.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, you really should be using this time more efficiently.

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<v Speaker 1>And whether like you are a person that was brought

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<v Speaker 1>up in the church or not, you were taught that

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<v Speaker 1>like idle hands are what like the devil's playground, So

0:18:08.680 --> 0:18:12.240
<v Speaker 1>if you're sitting around the devil's play thing, so you're

0:18:12.280 --> 0:18:15.640
<v Speaker 1>sitting around putting your feet up, And so I want

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<v Speaker 1>to know, like, even even on the way to recognizing

0:18:20.119 --> 0:18:24.000
<v Speaker 1>that we are conditioned, how do you unpack the guilt

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<v Speaker 1>so that you can get to a place of rest.

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<v Speaker 1>So that is hard. Um. I am a professor at

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<v Speaker 1>two schools. Um. I teach at Prince Church's Community College,

0:18:37.040 --> 0:18:39.760
<v Speaker 1>and I was teach a boy state And I love teaching,

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<v Speaker 1>but teaching takes up a lot of space in my head. Um,

0:18:45.640 --> 0:18:49.080
<v Speaker 1>I am not particularly efficient when it comes to grading,

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<v Speaker 1>because it requires me to sit still and that is

0:18:53.040 --> 0:18:56.000
<v Speaker 1>just not one of my favorite things to do. It

0:18:56.040 --> 0:18:59.359
<v Speaker 1>also requires me to because I'm I'm I'm an emotional

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm an empathetic grader. So I remember what it

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<v Speaker 1>was like being in classes with particularly white teachers who

0:19:05.760 --> 0:19:07.919
<v Speaker 1>made you feel like shit because of your writing. So

0:19:07.960 --> 0:19:10.160
<v Speaker 1>when I grade, I'm grading from a place of let

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<v Speaker 1>me grade with love, and so that takes me a

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<v Speaker 1>lot longer, and it actually takes a lot out of

0:19:14.640 --> 0:19:16.520
<v Speaker 1>me to grade like it's a it's a thing for me.

0:19:17.440 --> 0:19:22.239
<v Speaker 1>And what happens is I had said on Thursday, I

0:19:22.280 --> 0:19:26.480
<v Speaker 1>am going to dedicate that entire day to writing, because

0:19:26.520 --> 0:19:28.640
<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm going to do. I'm going to get

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<v Speaker 1>all of my grading that I want to get done

0:19:30.640 --> 0:19:34.640
<v Speaker 1>on Wednesday by Wednesday, and on Thursday, I am going

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<v Speaker 1>to dedicate my entire day to writing because I have

0:19:37.720 --> 0:19:40.320
<v Speaker 1>this essay that I just got to get out of me. Girl,

0:19:41.520 --> 0:19:45.040
<v Speaker 1>when I tell you, Tuesday night, I was knocked out.

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<v Speaker 1>I slept halfway through Friday though, slept halfway through Wednesday,

0:19:49.760 --> 0:19:53.000
<v Speaker 1>slept all of Thursday, woke up just to eat something,

0:19:53.040 --> 0:19:55.359
<v Speaker 1>slept most of Friday, so much so that I missed

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<v Speaker 1>one of my coaching sessions. That's how out of it

0:19:57.800 --> 0:20:01.400
<v Speaker 1>I was. Slept on Saturday, did not grade a single

0:20:01.480 --> 0:20:05.720
<v Speaker 1>damn thing. And there is a there is a guilt monster.

0:20:06.000 --> 0:20:09.280
<v Speaker 1>One of my members, as I refer to them, is

0:20:10.160 --> 0:20:14.639
<v Speaker 1>she's she's very much about keeping your word and setting deadlines.

0:20:14.920 --> 0:20:17.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm a Sagittarius, but there is a little Virgo trying

0:20:17.240 --> 0:20:20.840
<v Speaker 1>to get out of me that's driving me. She wants

0:20:20.840 --> 0:20:23.600
<v Speaker 1>to do things on time and she wants to be linear.

0:20:23.880 --> 0:20:26.200
<v Speaker 1>I was like, look, man, we can't do that. That's

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<v Speaker 1>not where we are. So that fact that fight is real,

0:20:29.480 --> 0:20:32.040
<v Speaker 1>and I stress out all the time about what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not doing. It takes up a great deal of space.

0:20:36.040 --> 0:20:39.920
<v Speaker 1>So I haven't I haven't figured out how to quell

0:20:40.080 --> 0:20:44.520
<v Speaker 1>the noise. As much as I've said, okay, consequences be damned.

0:20:44.560 --> 0:20:47.280
<v Speaker 1>If that means that I'm gonna give up two days

0:20:47.320 --> 0:20:49.600
<v Speaker 1>on the other side of this to catch up for grading,

0:20:49.640 --> 0:20:51.159
<v Speaker 1>and that's what I'm gonna do. But what I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>going to do is give up the sleep. So I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think that it's an easy The guilt is gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be there because it's a lot of conditioning that you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta get through coming into that understanding a year or

0:21:01.880 --> 0:21:05.520
<v Speaker 1>two years into it, when you're like plus thirty, that's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot to go, that's a lot to shift. But

0:21:07.320 --> 0:21:10.280
<v Speaker 1>what you can make a decision of is Okay, that

0:21:10.280 --> 0:21:11.720
<v Speaker 1>little voice in your head is like, oh, we should

0:21:11.760 --> 0:21:13.159
<v Speaker 1>we do this, we should be doing that. All right,

0:21:13.200 --> 0:21:14.720
<v Speaker 1>you can keep talking, but I'm gonna get this sleep,

0:21:14.720 --> 0:21:16.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna eat this pie, I'm gonna watch this Netflix

0:21:16.800 --> 0:21:20.720
<v Speaker 1>because the rest of me needs the rest. And over time,

0:21:20.760 --> 0:21:23.400
<v Speaker 1>what has happened for me is the voice is there,

0:21:23.440 --> 0:21:24.919
<v Speaker 1>but it's not as loud as it used to be.

0:21:26.080 --> 0:21:29.359
<v Speaker 1>So before I would be resting or hanging out and

0:21:29.400 --> 0:21:31.640
<v Speaker 1>it'd be this constant worrying, like, oh, you should be home,

0:21:31.840 --> 0:21:33.840
<v Speaker 1>you're not using this time. Wisi da da da da

0:21:33.920 --> 0:21:36.640
<v Speaker 1>dah rah rah rah. Now what happens it's like, Hey,

0:21:36.680 --> 0:21:39.640
<v Speaker 1>are we gonna grade papers today? Nope? Okay, I'll try

0:21:39.720 --> 0:21:41.440
<v Speaker 1>back a few hours. Hey, you know this might be

0:21:41.480 --> 0:21:43.800
<v Speaker 1>a good time to do this. You want to do that? Nope? Okay.

0:21:43.880 --> 0:21:46.560
<v Speaker 1>So it's a bit different. It's it's not the worrying

0:21:46.600 --> 0:21:49.520
<v Speaker 1>that it used to be. And what happens really is

0:21:49.560 --> 0:21:52.880
<v Speaker 1>that I've made a conscious decision that if that means

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm sleeping on my couch for two days, then

0:21:55.600 --> 0:21:58.040
<v Speaker 1>that's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna trust that my

0:21:58.160 --> 0:22:01.159
<v Speaker 1>body needs it, because what I have realized is that

0:22:01.200 --> 0:22:06.160
<v Speaker 1>our disconnection to rest. I'm very disconnected for my physical self.

0:22:06.440 --> 0:22:09.480
<v Speaker 1>I live in my head and I live my higher self.

0:22:09.600 --> 0:22:11.679
<v Speaker 1>I don't live in my body. So that's one of

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<v Speaker 1>the reasons I'm able to function the way I do

0:22:14.720 --> 0:22:16.600
<v Speaker 1>is because I don't really live in my body the

0:22:16.640 --> 0:22:19.840
<v Speaker 1>way I should. I'm now the pandemic has forced me

0:22:20.080 --> 0:22:22.679
<v Speaker 1>to live in my body, and it's like, what the

0:22:22.680 --> 0:22:24.480
<v Speaker 1>hell is going on in here? This is a bit

0:22:24.560 --> 0:22:26.760
<v Speaker 1>much like, oh my god, what have we done? What

0:22:26.840 --> 0:22:29.879
<v Speaker 1>if we allowed to happen? So living in my body

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<v Speaker 1>now has become sort of the main focus, which means

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<v Speaker 1>then that I'm aware of all of the swellings and

0:22:36.280 --> 0:22:39.080
<v Speaker 1>the aches and the pains and the weight that wasn't

0:22:39.080 --> 0:22:41.280
<v Speaker 1>there or that I've never felt before that I'm feeling

0:22:41.359 --> 0:22:44.439
<v Speaker 1>now because I'm actually living in my body, and it's like, Okay,

0:22:44.440 --> 0:22:46.840
<v Speaker 1>this is a mess and we need to we need

0:22:46.880 --> 0:22:49.040
<v Speaker 1>to clear it up. And what I noticed is that

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<v Speaker 1>when I don't sleep. That's when I feel heaviest. When

0:22:52.760 --> 0:22:56.399
<v Speaker 1>I get rest, when I eat really good food, you know,

0:22:57.280 --> 0:23:00.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't feel as heavy. I feel lighter. So even

0:23:00.240 --> 0:23:02.919
<v Speaker 1>the difference between you know, when I trained, I have

0:23:02.960 --> 0:23:06.479
<v Speaker 1>a trainer that we do yoga when I when I

0:23:06.640 --> 0:23:09.360
<v Speaker 1>that whole weekend, when I just slept from like Thursday on,

0:23:09.680 --> 0:23:12.360
<v Speaker 1>when I sat in my meditative post on Monday, I

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<v Speaker 1>actually felt like overall smaller pop. It was just different,

0:23:16.960 --> 0:23:18.880
<v Speaker 1>like I was like, did I shrink? What is going on?

0:23:20.680 --> 0:23:24.600
<v Speaker 1>And it's because I got rest. My my movements were

0:23:24.600 --> 0:23:27.159
<v Speaker 1>a lot more fluid. I wasn't getting hemmed up in

0:23:27.200 --> 0:23:30.439
<v Speaker 1>certain poses. And it was really because my body's like,

0:23:30.480 --> 0:23:33.320
<v Speaker 1>can we just please, I beg. We've we've done, We've

0:23:33.320 --> 0:23:35.240
<v Speaker 1>done a lot, so let's just can we just sit?

0:23:35.800 --> 0:23:40.359
<v Speaker 1>And so that this because my body speaks to me

0:23:40.400 --> 0:23:44.160
<v Speaker 1>in a Nigi accent um. You know, it wants it

0:23:44.200 --> 0:23:46.880
<v Speaker 1>wants to rest, it wants to sit. It's like, yo,

0:23:47.640 --> 0:23:50.040
<v Speaker 1>I have been there for you this whole time, Like

0:23:50.080 --> 0:23:53.480
<v Speaker 1>I've shown up, I've healed fast when you've torn through things,

0:23:53.520 --> 0:23:56.199
<v Speaker 1>I have you know, accommodated for your love of cereal.

0:23:56.480 --> 0:23:58.600
<v Speaker 1>Even though your lactose intolerant, like I put up with

0:23:58.640 --> 0:23:59.920
<v Speaker 1>a lot of stuff. I need you to do this

0:24:00.160 --> 0:24:05.040
<v Speaker 1>for me. And so being in my body more has been, um,

0:24:05.720 --> 0:24:07.960
<v Speaker 1>it's been traumatic. I'm not gonna lie. There have been

0:24:07.960 --> 0:24:10.520
<v Speaker 1>some moments where it's been really traumatic. But what it

0:24:10.600 --> 0:24:12.760
<v Speaker 1>what it is, what it is doing for me. It

0:24:12.880 --> 0:24:15.679
<v Speaker 1>is helping me deal with that understanding that that guilt

0:24:16.040 --> 0:24:19.159
<v Speaker 1>is conditioning, it's not truth. My body is truth. The

0:24:19.200 --> 0:24:22.000
<v Speaker 1>physicality of my body is truth. So my goal is

0:24:22.040 --> 0:24:24.159
<v Speaker 1>to light in my body at all times and that

0:24:24.200 --> 0:24:27.000
<v Speaker 1>means that whatever I need to do, that's what I'm

0:24:27.000 --> 0:24:30.280
<v Speaker 1>gonna do. Hopefully that answers your question. You know, it's Oh,

0:24:30.359 --> 0:24:34.199
<v Speaker 1>it does, and it's and it's really interesting because you know,

0:24:35.440 --> 0:24:39.159
<v Speaker 1>want what I have realized right over the past or

0:24:39.240 --> 0:24:41.920
<v Speaker 1>over these where it headed into two years, it's been

0:24:42.000 --> 0:24:45.520
<v Speaker 1>nineteen months that we've been living in this health pandemic

0:24:46.240 --> 0:24:48.480
<v Speaker 1>that in this you know, in this close to two

0:24:48.560 --> 0:24:52.640
<v Speaker 1>year time period, I too have felt more in my

0:24:52.720 --> 0:24:55.960
<v Speaker 1>body and have wanted to be more in my body,

0:24:56.240 --> 0:25:00.439
<v Speaker 1>whereas everything else prior was a place of this escape.

0:25:00.520 --> 0:25:03.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't have time to sit and meditate. I don't

0:25:03.400 --> 0:25:07.320
<v Speaker 1>have time, you know, to be even even the exercises

0:25:07.359 --> 0:25:10.480
<v Speaker 1>that I would do were in fact those that were

0:25:10.560 --> 0:25:14.000
<v Speaker 1>pounding and of everything came from a place of aggression.

0:25:14.640 --> 0:25:17.639
<v Speaker 1>And I realize now that that is a great point.

0:25:18.200 --> 0:25:21.120
<v Speaker 1>It did that, it did, And I said, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>just like the questions that I've been asking myself now

0:25:25.200 --> 0:25:30.040
<v Speaker 1>is why, right whereas before I wouldn't even pause to

0:25:30.080 --> 0:25:33.359
<v Speaker 1>ask the why. But it's like, why is everything so aggressive?

0:25:33.480 --> 0:25:35.480
<v Speaker 1>Why do you feel like you're running out of time?

0:25:35.520 --> 0:25:38.639
<v Speaker 1>Why do you feel the need to beat yourself into

0:25:38.720 --> 0:25:43.560
<v Speaker 1>submission instead of loving yourself into into that space of lightness?

0:25:44.080 --> 0:25:47.040
<v Speaker 1>And I think that for me, one of my most

0:25:47.080 --> 0:25:50.600
<v Speaker 1>reflective moments over the past you know, almost two years

0:25:51.240 --> 0:25:55.960
<v Speaker 1>has coming has really like coming to the stark realization

0:25:56.400 --> 0:26:00.720
<v Speaker 1>that this world wants to kill people that like us,

0:26:01.240 --> 0:26:05.760
<v Speaker 1>that they will do it in every single conceivable way

0:26:05.880 --> 0:26:11.479
<v Speaker 1>and unimaginable way possible, and that I cannot, like, I

0:26:11.560 --> 0:26:16.919
<v Speaker 1>cannot look at myself with the same aggression and forcefulness

0:26:16.960 --> 0:26:19.400
<v Speaker 1>that the rest of the world sees me if I'm

0:26:19.440 --> 0:26:22.400
<v Speaker 1>to survive it, and not just survive it, but get

0:26:22.440 --> 0:26:27.000
<v Speaker 1>to a place of genuine thriving, you know. And I

0:26:27.119 --> 0:26:33.719
<v Speaker 1>say that to people because it's good, and I mean,

0:26:33.760 --> 0:26:36.320
<v Speaker 1>go ahead, finish thought. No, he's gonna say I say

0:26:36.359 --> 0:26:42.480
<v Speaker 1>that people, because you know what you said, we have

0:26:42.520 --> 0:26:44.760
<v Speaker 1>an overlap ahead. I think it's a lag, so it

0:26:44.960 --> 0:26:52.400
<v Speaker 1>is yeah, okay, okay, So when I tell you that

0:26:52.400 --> 0:26:54.560
<v Speaker 1>that that thing just should What you just said shook

0:26:54.600 --> 0:26:57.600
<v Speaker 1>me to the core. I was because of how we

0:26:57.640 --> 0:27:00.920
<v Speaker 1>look at our bodies, um and because of how black

0:27:01.000 --> 0:27:05.480
<v Speaker 1>women's bodies I think absorb stress in particular, and the

0:27:05.560 --> 0:27:09.960
<v Speaker 1>judgments that come with black women's bodies that go to

0:27:10.040 --> 0:27:12.320
<v Speaker 1>the gym and run really hard and do all these things.

0:27:13.160 --> 0:27:15.520
<v Speaker 1>My trainer and I we worked for a while and

0:27:15.800 --> 0:27:18.040
<v Speaker 1>I was busting my ass in these sessions and I

0:27:18.080 --> 0:27:21.080
<v Speaker 1>was like, I'm not seeing any results. This is like

0:27:21.160 --> 0:27:24.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm tired, Like why am I doing bear claws for

0:27:24.359 --> 0:27:26.720
<v Speaker 1>what freaking reason? Why am I doing this to myself?

0:27:26.960 --> 0:27:30.240
<v Speaker 1>And I did. I was doing some research and I'm

0:27:30.240 --> 0:27:34.800
<v Speaker 1>a woman of a certain age. So what's happening is

0:27:34.880 --> 0:27:39.040
<v Speaker 1>that you know the stress hormones. I'm just saying, I

0:27:39.119 --> 0:27:40.840
<v Speaker 1>know what I look like, but I know if you

0:27:41.080 --> 0:27:42.879
<v Speaker 1>if you slice me open, you count the rings, it's

0:27:42.880 --> 0:27:47.040
<v Speaker 1>a completely different number. But what happens is that as

0:27:47.080 --> 0:27:50.120
<v Speaker 1>we as we stress out, we build these stress hormones

0:27:50.119 --> 0:27:52.240
<v Speaker 1>called us all. A lot of people are familiar with that. So, like,

0:27:52.359 --> 0:27:55.119
<v Speaker 1>I have a stress body. And so one of the

0:27:55.119 --> 0:27:59.479
<v Speaker 1>things that you learn is that aggressive exercise is actually

0:27:59.480 --> 0:28:03.119
<v Speaker 1>not good for people who produce too much cortisol. Like

0:28:03.160 --> 0:28:05.280
<v Speaker 1>what you're supposed to do, what I should be doing

0:28:05.960 --> 0:28:07.959
<v Speaker 1>is walking three miles a day. Like if I just

0:28:08.000 --> 0:28:10.240
<v Speaker 1>walked three miles a day for a month, my body

0:28:10.240 --> 0:28:13.840
<v Speaker 1>composition would would shift. And so I told him, I

0:28:13.920 --> 0:28:15.639
<v Speaker 1>was like, yo, I don't want to do these aggressive

0:28:15.680 --> 0:28:19.199
<v Speaker 1>exercises anymore. Like we had started doing yoga one of

0:28:19.240 --> 0:28:22.080
<v Speaker 1>the three sessions, and I really liked how I felt

0:28:22.080 --> 0:28:24.240
<v Speaker 1>in my body when I did the yoga sessions versus

0:28:24.320 --> 0:28:27.000
<v Speaker 1>the other two. And I had to really build up

0:28:27.040 --> 0:28:30.240
<v Speaker 1>the confidence to say, you know what, I don't want

0:28:30.240 --> 0:28:32.719
<v Speaker 1>to do those exercises anymore because I didn't want him

0:28:32.760 --> 0:28:35.119
<v Speaker 1>to think that I was like copying out because the

0:28:35.160 --> 0:28:38.760
<v Speaker 1>conditioning is telling me that, oh, woa, you're lazy. You're

0:28:39.040 --> 0:28:41.120
<v Speaker 1>not you're not trying to do this, You're not serious.

0:28:41.520 --> 0:28:44.120
<v Speaker 1>But it's like no, my body's like, well, I don't

0:28:44.160 --> 0:28:46.920
<v Speaker 1>want to do this. We like yoga. Can't we just

0:28:46.960 --> 0:28:51.040
<v Speaker 1>do yoga. So that's what I've been doing, and it's

0:28:51.080 --> 0:28:54.040
<v Speaker 1>like the best love letter to yourself, you know, gentle movement,

0:28:54.200 --> 0:28:57.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, because everything that I've done it's been aggressive,

0:28:57.640 --> 0:29:00.000
<v Speaker 1>Like I wake up and it's like, let's go. Because

0:29:00.160 --> 0:29:02.320
<v Speaker 1>my mother when I was a kid, she would never

0:29:02.440 --> 0:29:04.760
<v Speaker 1>let us sleep in. When you wake up, She's like,

0:29:04.920 --> 0:29:07.120
<v Speaker 1>don't you know, move You don't sit in bed, you

0:29:07.120 --> 0:29:09.120
<v Speaker 1>don't think about it, just get up, you get dressed,

0:29:09.120 --> 0:29:11.719
<v Speaker 1>you move when your day starts. The day starts almost

0:29:11.720 --> 0:29:13.800
<v Speaker 1>like it was almost military in a way that she

0:29:14.000 --> 0:29:16.400
<v Speaker 1>that the way she raised this. And so when I

0:29:16.440 --> 0:29:18.640
<v Speaker 1>do get up, it's like, let's go. But now what

0:29:18.680 --> 0:29:20.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm learning to do is like stay in bed a

0:29:20.800 --> 0:29:23.600
<v Speaker 1>little bit longer. You know, I've created a life where

0:29:23.640 --> 0:29:26.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't necessarily have to get up at the crack

0:29:26.320 --> 0:29:28.400
<v Speaker 1>of dawn because as an African, we assume crack of

0:29:28.440 --> 0:29:29.920
<v Speaker 1>dawn means that's when the day starts, you know what

0:29:30.000 --> 0:29:32.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. So even the way we associate our time

0:29:33.000 --> 0:29:35.840
<v Speaker 1>with how much light we have, you know, some of

0:29:35.880 --> 0:29:38.600
<v Speaker 1>that is DNA. Like you know, if I was a farmer,

0:29:38.640 --> 0:29:41.360
<v Speaker 1>if I come from a family of farmers, daybreak, you

0:29:41.360 --> 0:29:43.160
<v Speaker 1>you gotta be up. There's things that need to be done.

0:29:43.200 --> 0:29:45.920
<v Speaker 1>But I'm like, I'm not a farmer. I don't have

0:29:46.040 --> 0:29:51.280
<v Speaker 1>a farm. I actually am a suburban dweller, actually a

0:29:51.320 --> 0:29:54.560
<v Speaker 1>suburban dweller who was a teacher and who was an artist.

0:29:54.600 --> 0:29:56.880
<v Speaker 1>I am not planting yams in the back. I don't

0:29:56.880 --> 0:29:58.640
<v Speaker 1>need to get up at four o'clock in the morning

0:29:58.800 --> 0:30:01.000
<v Speaker 1>unless I absolutely fine and getting up at four o'clock

0:30:01.000 --> 0:30:03.800
<v Speaker 1>in the morning helpful. So some of it is the

0:30:03.920 --> 0:30:06.040
<v Speaker 1>word the languages that we use, but some of it

0:30:06.120 --> 0:30:09.400
<v Speaker 1>is also just even making that decision to shift to

0:30:09.480 --> 0:30:12.520
<v Speaker 1>a different way of moving and not every like somebody

0:30:12.520 --> 0:30:16.280
<v Speaker 1>made a good point. I was researching um traditional yoga

0:30:16.360 --> 0:30:18.120
<v Speaker 1>as it was done in India. In terms of the

0:30:18.120 --> 0:30:21.760
<v Speaker 1>way it was practiced, it's very different from this capitalistic

0:30:21.880 --> 0:30:24.880
<v Speaker 1>Lulu lemon esque approach that we have in the States,

0:30:25.360 --> 0:30:29.040
<v Speaker 1>and it has kind of changed the way yoga is

0:30:29.120 --> 0:30:32.280
<v Speaker 1>like yoga and now the way that yoga has become

0:30:32.400 --> 0:30:37.320
<v Speaker 1>sort of monetized, it doesn't it's it's it's it's turned

0:30:37.360 --> 0:30:39.600
<v Speaker 1>been turned into like an aggressive workout, which is not

0:30:40.200 --> 0:30:42.840
<v Speaker 1>what it that's not what it's supposed to do. So

0:30:43.160 --> 0:30:46.400
<v Speaker 1>working with people who understand the real foundation of what

0:30:46.520 --> 0:30:49.320
<v Speaker 1>yoga is supposed to look like, and understand that like

0:30:49.560 --> 0:30:53.200
<v Speaker 1>real yogis don't look like finally tone you know, you

0:30:53.280 --> 0:30:56.200
<v Speaker 1>know fitness models that they look like regular human beings,

0:30:57.120 --> 0:30:59.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, who have a lot of longevity because they're

0:30:59.120 --> 0:31:02.040
<v Speaker 1>not weathering on the end inside. So that's the focus,

0:31:02.160 --> 0:31:04.320
<v Speaker 1>that's the goal. And I think what you know, when

0:31:04.400 --> 0:31:07.200
<v Speaker 1>you said that point about moving away from us like

0:31:07.320 --> 0:31:09.720
<v Speaker 1>pounding and running and all of that. I like to run.

0:31:09.760 --> 0:31:11.560
<v Speaker 1>I actually enjoy running now because I've learned how to

0:31:11.600 --> 0:31:14.320
<v Speaker 1>do it. But just me jumping up and down in

0:31:14.400 --> 0:31:17.320
<v Speaker 1>my house, you know, doing craziness, I was like, I

0:31:17.360 --> 0:31:19.040
<v Speaker 1>don't want to do this anymore. And so when I've

0:31:19.080 --> 0:31:22.480
<v Speaker 1>made the decision, I shifted like a whole mindset. And

0:31:22.560 --> 0:31:25.160
<v Speaker 1>even my trainer was like, yo, this three times a

0:31:25.240 --> 0:31:27.880
<v Speaker 1>week is he's actually because he does it with me,

0:31:28.000 --> 0:31:33.080
<v Speaker 1>he's actually found it much more beneficial because he has

0:31:33.160 --> 0:31:36.120
<v Speaker 1>to create whatever the rounds we're going to do, he

0:31:36.200 --> 0:31:38.440
<v Speaker 1>creates that. So he's like, you know, one of we

0:31:39.120 --> 0:31:40.920
<v Speaker 1>give thanks at the end of a session. He's like,

0:31:40.960 --> 0:31:43.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm just thankful because if you I'm doing yoga three

0:31:43.760 --> 0:31:46.080
<v Speaker 1>times a week and That's something I never would have

0:31:46.200 --> 0:31:49.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, outside of a teaching space, I wouldn't have

0:31:49.960 --> 0:31:51.960
<v Speaker 1>got to do that for myself. So yeah, I do

0:31:52.040 --> 0:31:53.920
<v Speaker 1>think it's important for us to think about how we

0:31:54.720 --> 0:31:57.480
<v Speaker 1>how we use our bodies, and when you're in your body,

0:31:58.240 --> 0:32:00.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, letting it be the barometer that it's meant

0:32:00.280 --> 0:32:01.480
<v Speaker 1>to be. It will tell you what it likes and

0:32:01.600 --> 0:32:05.720
<v Speaker 1>what it doesn't like. You know. You know, after now

0:32:06.320 --> 0:32:11.280
<v Speaker 1>this time of you reconnecting with your body and being

0:32:11.440 --> 0:32:16.600
<v Speaker 1>in your body and feeling this lightness, how has that

0:32:17.520 --> 0:32:21.080
<v Speaker 1>helped you with your creativity? How has that helped you

0:32:21.720 --> 0:32:29.400
<v Speaker 1>delve further into your art? It's actually asking me to

0:32:29.520 --> 0:32:33.280
<v Speaker 1>do to think about myself a little bit more expansively.

0:32:34.480 --> 0:32:39.200
<v Speaker 1>My art traditionally is in bringing people together. It's experiences

0:32:39.240 --> 0:32:42.680
<v Speaker 1>like that's the first place that I think my creativity.

0:32:43.160 --> 0:32:45.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm always like, yo, let's get together, let's grab people.

0:32:45.600 --> 0:32:50.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm always gathering folk, and so the pandemic forced me

0:32:50.440 --> 0:32:54.280
<v Speaker 1>to really reconsider, like what what that could possibly look like.

0:32:54.400 --> 0:32:57.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't like zoom get Together. I absolutely hate them.

0:32:57.360 --> 0:32:59.400
<v Speaker 1>And you know, I'll do things through Zoom because I

0:32:59.520 --> 0:33:02.160
<v Speaker 1>have to, But you know, I get invited to really

0:33:02.720 --> 0:33:05.320
<v Speaker 1>sweet zoom parties all the time, and I just decline

0:33:05.360 --> 0:33:07.880
<v Speaker 1>because I don't That's not how I want to enjoy people.

0:33:08.240 --> 0:33:10.760
<v Speaker 1>And I'm willing to wait until we can all be together. Um,

0:33:10.840 --> 0:33:13.840
<v Speaker 1>the zoom just feels like for me, it just doesn't.

0:33:14.080 --> 0:33:16.080
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't feel good in my body to be sitting

0:33:16.160 --> 0:33:19.440
<v Speaker 1>here having an animated conversation with someone I love via

0:33:19.520 --> 0:33:22.000
<v Speaker 1>zoom just feels like I need to be on a

0:33:22.080 --> 0:33:25.640
<v Speaker 1>couch with some cocoa, you know, prograp you know, feed

0:33:25.680 --> 0:33:27.440
<v Speaker 1>on top of each other, talking and like, you know,

0:33:28.040 --> 0:33:32.080
<v Speaker 1>all of that. So, um, my art has you know,

0:33:32.240 --> 0:33:33.960
<v Speaker 1>what has happened is some of the things that I've

0:33:34.000 --> 0:33:36.200
<v Speaker 1>been doing digitally or things that I play around with,

0:33:36.320 --> 0:33:40.240
<v Speaker 1>things that I used to to do as as because

0:33:40.280 --> 0:33:42.800
<v Speaker 1>I needed to create something for whatever I was doing.

0:33:43.440 --> 0:33:45.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm now re examining as art and I'm sharing a

0:33:46.040 --> 0:33:47.920
<v Speaker 1>little bit of the things that I'm doing, and it's

0:33:48.000 --> 0:33:51.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm getting some really great feedback. I think artists,

0:33:51.400 --> 0:33:53.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, especially visual artists, because I work with fine

0:33:53.640 --> 0:33:56.680
<v Speaker 1>arts artists. I'm loath to refer to myself as such

0:33:56.720 --> 0:33:58.880
<v Speaker 1>because these people have put in years and years of practice.

0:33:59.120 --> 0:34:01.240
<v Speaker 1>But that's the condition, you know, what I'm saying, that's

0:34:01.280 --> 0:34:03.120
<v Speaker 1>part of the conditioning that I have to fight. And

0:34:03.240 --> 0:34:07.040
<v Speaker 1>so being in my body has really helped me see

0:34:07.160 --> 0:34:12.239
<v Speaker 1>myself differently, Like I actually like this training this week

0:34:12.600 --> 0:34:15.480
<v Speaker 1>this morning, and I actually positioned to have a mirror

0:34:15.560 --> 0:34:18.160
<v Speaker 1>that's like a carousel. I never look at myself in

0:34:18.200 --> 0:34:20.160
<v Speaker 1>the mirror, Like that's something I've never actually been a

0:34:20.200 --> 0:34:22.200
<v Speaker 1>fan of, Like I would, you know, one of the

0:34:22.239 --> 0:34:24.279
<v Speaker 1>biggest complaints my friends always have, like you have no

0:34:24.360 --> 0:34:27.040
<v Speaker 1>mirrors in the house, Like, you know, how do you

0:34:27.120 --> 0:34:28.360
<v Speaker 1>know if your clothes look right? I was like, I

0:34:28.440 --> 0:34:30.960
<v Speaker 1>just go by field. So I now have this full

0:34:31.040 --> 0:34:34.400
<v Speaker 1>length mirror, and I've been forcing myself to look at myself.

0:34:34.480 --> 0:34:38.080
<v Speaker 1>And so I was watching myself pull out a tiger pose.

0:34:38.120 --> 0:34:39.600
<v Speaker 1>It was called tiger pose, and I was like, oh

0:34:39.680 --> 0:34:41.920
<v Speaker 1>my god, you're such a badass. Like I had a

0:34:42.000 --> 0:34:44.200
<v Speaker 1>moment while I was looking at my body. My body

0:34:44.320 --> 0:34:46.040
<v Speaker 1>was like see and I was like, you're right, and

0:34:46.120 --> 0:34:50.120
<v Speaker 1>it was this really beautiful moment. And so being in

0:34:50.239 --> 0:34:53.160
<v Speaker 1>my body is helping me see myself more expansively. And

0:34:53.280 --> 0:34:56.080
<v Speaker 1>it's also while I've never felt like I had limitations,

0:34:56.760 --> 0:35:01.440
<v Speaker 1>it's making me more courageous to like put stuff out there.

0:35:01.800 --> 0:35:03.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm somebody who will create a whole bunch of stuff

0:35:03.600 --> 0:35:06.880
<v Speaker 1>and nobody will ever see it. And now I'm feeling like, yo,

0:35:07.000 --> 0:35:08.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to throw it out there and see what people,

0:35:09.160 --> 0:35:11.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, whether they like it or not, because I'm

0:35:11.040 --> 0:35:12.960
<v Speaker 1>doing it for me, you know, it's a win regardless.

0:35:13.040 --> 0:35:16.680
<v Speaker 1>So I am trying more things, and you know, ideas

0:35:16.719 --> 0:35:19.200
<v Speaker 1>that I've been sitting in my head, I'm actually pulling

0:35:19.239 --> 0:35:22.759
<v Speaker 1>them out and like sketching, and it's just being in

0:35:22.880 --> 0:35:26.840
<v Speaker 1>your body. It changes how you see the world because

0:35:26.960 --> 0:35:31.160
<v Speaker 1>now you're you're processing things temporarily, You're not just processing

0:35:31.239 --> 0:35:33.640
<v Speaker 1>them in terms of how you see it. Like I'm

0:35:33.680 --> 0:35:37.640
<v Speaker 1>literally energetically, you know, taking it all in, and I'm

0:35:37.719 --> 0:35:40.200
<v Speaker 1>looking at my body and how it reacts and saying, Okay,

0:35:40.320 --> 0:35:41.959
<v Speaker 1>this is why I like, this is why I don't.

0:35:42.280 --> 0:35:45.360
<v Speaker 1>And it's just like it's like it's like discovering like

0:35:45.440 --> 0:35:47.759
<v Speaker 1>you have like a seventh sense or something like an

0:35:47.840 --> 0:35:49.960
<v Speaker 1>extra sense, or like all of a sudden you have

0:35:50.000 --> 0:35:53.200
<v Speaker 1>an antenna that you didn't know that you had. So

0:35:55.440 --> 0:35:58.160
<v Speaker 1>it's it's deep, like it's powerful because for me, it's

0:35:58.239 --> 0:36:00.920
<v Speaker 1>not based. It doesn't matter what my outside looks like

0:36:01.120 --> 0:36:04.120
<v Speaker 1>like I'm not concerned with that. I'm really concerned with

0:36:04.560 --> 0:36:06.960
<v Speaker 1>with what's going on inside because I want to be

0:36:07.080 --> 0:36:09.200
<v Speaker 1>here for as long as I possibly can. Yeah, and

0:36:09.280 --> 0:36:10.839
<v Speaker 1>I also want to be here in a way where

0:36:10.880 --> 0:36:12.880
<v Speaker 1>I can move, Like I don't want to be like

0:36:12.960 --> 0:36:14.839
<v Speaker 1>I want to be the seventy year old woman who

0:36:14.960 --> 0:36:16.600
<v Speaker 1>rocks a heel high, you know what I'm saying, Like

0:36:16.719 --> 0:36:19.400
<v Speaker 1>that's one of my goals. I don't necessarily want to

0:36:19.520 --> 0:36:23.280
<v Speaker 1>be here. And my body's not working, so doing yoga,

0:36:23.719 --> 0:36:27.600
<v Speaker 1>paying attention, like I'm catching things that I normally wouldn't catch,

0:36:27.880 --> 0:36:30.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, so I'm able to like, oh, okay, I

0:36:30.360 --> 0:36:32.600
<v Speaker 1>need to drink more water. Things are feeling a little

0:36:32.640 --> 0:36:34.960
<v Speaker 1>tight here. What's going on there? You know? I need

0:36:35.000 --> 0:36:37.040
<v Speaker 1>to do this. So it's it's a good thing, you know,

0:36:37.160 --> 0:36:38.879
<v Speaker 1>And in a lot of ways, it's like a silver

0:36:39.000 --> 0:36:41.520
<v Speaker 1>lining in terms of what the pandemic has brought. Like

0:36:41.560 --> 0:36:43.720
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of terribleness that has come with the pandemic,

0:36:43.800 --> 0:36:46.279
<v Speaker 1>but there are so many silver linings in terms of

0:36:46.840 --> 0:36:52.000
<v Speaker 1>self evaluation, um just you know, emotional intelligence, how you

0:36:52.120 --> 0:36:54.919
<v Speaker 1>engage with you, with the people around you. It's it's

0:36:55.040 --> 0:36:58.440
<v Speaker 1>been really it's been it's been a lot, but it's

0:36:58.480 --> 0:37:01.960
<v Speaker 1>been that kind of good, like, Okay, by the time

0:37:02.040 --> 0:37:04.600
<v Speaker 1>we are fully done with this, I will actually be

0:37:04.719 --> 0:37:07.399
<v Speaker 1>a better person, you know, And that's that's the part

0:37:07.440 --> 0:37:10.560
<v Speaker 1>that I'm excited about. I think that that, to me,

0:37:11.000 --> 0:37:14.680
<v Speaker 1>has been one of the most beautiful I say that

0:37:14.760 --> 0:37:17.440
<v Speaker 1>this has been a beautiful mess, right. That has been

0:37:17.760 --> 0:37:21.560
<v Speaker 1>a beautiful part of this, of the entirety of this

0:37:21.800 --> 0:37:26.120
<v Speaker 1>journey is recognizing that I feel more like myself now

0:37:26.840 --> 0:37:29.320
<v Speaker 1>than I did in twenty nineteen than I did in

0:37:29.400 --> 0:37:32.919
<v Speaker 1>twenty eighteen. And yet you know, if you look back,

0:37:33.520 --> 0:37:36.600
<v Speaker 1>there wasn't There was a different type of angst and

0:37:36.680 --> 0:37:39.200
<v Speaker 1>a different type of anxiety. But I feel more in

0:37:39.360 --> 0:37:45.720
<v Speaker 1>my skin than I do now. Before I let you go, Rissie, please,

0:37:45.960 --> 0:37:48.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, what is your advice to people who are

0:37:48.480 --> 0:37:52.200
<v Speaker 1>listening to this conversation and they are thinking to themselves, yeah,

0:37:52.239 --> 0:37:55.520
<v Speaker 1>that sounds nice, but like it's way too hard and

0:37:55.640 --> 0:37:58.960
<v Speaker 1>I can't do that. What advice do you have to

0:37:59.160 --> 0:38:02.400
<v Speaker 1>that person who you know they're listening to this and

0:38:02.440 --> 0:38:05.479
<v Speaker 1>they're saying, you know what, I want to get into

0:38:05.560 --> 0:38:08.640
<v Speaker 1>this journey. I want to continue on this journey that

0:38:08.800 --> 0:38:12.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm fearful of. But this nagging voice is telling them,

0:38:12.680 --> 0:38:19.839
<v Speaker 1>don't do it. It's too much. Right, So I cuts

0:38:19.880 --> 0:38:21.640
<v Speaker 1>at that little voice when she starts to get a

0:38:21.680 --> 0:38:23.600
<v Speaker 1>little crazy, I'm like, look, you're gonna shut your ass up.

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<v Speaker 1>Not doing this with you today. You can talk back,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. When the voices are trying

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<v Speaker 1>to get at you like, oh it's too hard, it

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<v Speaker 1>is too much, you can be like, nah, man, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>doing this. And I think for me, the biggest what

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<v Speaker 1>I would say to someone what I well, there's two things.

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<v Speaker 1>Part one is if you believe that you can't, then

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<v Speaker 1>you're right. Like if you're if you've listened to all

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<v Speaker 1>of this and you walk away saying, oh I don't

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I could do that, then you're

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<v Speaker 1>right and it stops there. If you want to do different, like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not about better, it's about different. If you want

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<v Speaker 1>to do different, pick one thing. The way I started

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<v Speaker 1>was I realized how dehydrated I was. I didn't realize

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<v Speaker 1>how dehydrated I was until I saw you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>went and saw a friend and she was like, you

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<v Speaker 1>just look like you aren't drinking enough water to just

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<v Speaker 1>start by drinking water. Like it sounds crazy, but like

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<v Speaker 1>if you can start with just committing to like I

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<v Speaker 1>wake up in the morning, I do oil pulling with

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<v Speaker 1>sessame oil. It's an aguvatic thing. It's a great way

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<v Speaker 1>to kind of pull all the taxins out of your

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<v Speaker 1>mouth before you brush. And then I have a really

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<v Speaker 1>big glass of water and water in the morning. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think we realize how important water is, but water

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<v Speaker 1>in the morning, it just that's the day. Like it's

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<v Speaker 1>just like, okay, it's like an evolution. It's like a

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<v Speaker 1>blessing to be able to have that water in the morning.

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<v Speaker 1>And when I do that. The next thing I'm learning

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<v Speaker 1>to do is I kind of sit and I say, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>what do I want my data look like? And there's

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<v Speaker 1>no shame or harm if you don't get everything done.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think about what I want my data look like,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think about how I want to feel at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the day. And so if it's like

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to be productive, what productive looks like.

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<v Speaker 1>It could be that I cleaned out my closet. It

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<v Speaker 1>could be that you know, I, you know, cleared some old,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, expired food out of my fridge, whatever productive

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<v Speaker 1>feels like. So what I would say to anyone who

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<v Speaker 1>wants to try something different is understand that everything that

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<v Speaker 1>we're thinking about what we can't do is part of

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<v Speaker 1>the conditioning. There's a great conditioning that we have to

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<v Speaker 1>we have to pull out of, you know, we have

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<v Speaker 1>to we have to kind of pull away from. So

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<v Speaker 1>when you say, oh, I can't do it, what does

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<v Speaker 1>that actually mean? Because physically you can unless you can't,

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<v Speaker 1>and if there's a physical limitation, then find something else.

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<v Speaker 1>But a lot of what we say we can't do

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<v Speaker 1>is conditioning. And the mind is a powerful thing. So

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<v Speaker 1>if your brain says if you say I can't do it,

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<v Speaker 1>and your brain accepts it, then it's true you can't.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know that kind of that might sound flippant

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<v Speaker 1>to someone who's like, what the hell's all about, but

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<v Speaker 1>it really does boil down to that. You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>teach students all the time, and they I spend a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of time trying to decondition my students from thinking

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<v Speaker 1>they're terrible writers because they had that one bad experience

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<v Speaker 1>with a teacher. Yeah, it's like, no, you can write.

0:41:12.320 --> 0:41:14.360
<v Speaker 1>Everybody can write. You know what I'm saying you just

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<v Speaker 1>have to figure out how to make sure you're saying

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<v Speaker 1>what you want to say in your voice. So I

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<v Speaker 1>would say to anyone, just start with morning. Just start

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<v Speaker 1>with morning water, because I don't know what it is

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<v Speaker 1>about that first drink in the morning. It literally kind

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<v Speaker 1>of it's like this cool sort of wash of everything,

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<v Speaker 1>and it really says to me, new day, new opportunities,

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go. And then I just go and I celebrate. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and I celebrate. I sell it. I mean, I made soup.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel really good about the fact that I made soup.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so proud of myself because I do, because I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's one less thing that's spoiled in the fridge.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm picking up my nephew soon and so

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<v Speaker 1>he'll have something to eat. But I actually spent time

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<v Speaker 1>and I cooked for myself. I get I'm gonna give

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<v Speaker 1>my body food that I'm made, and so that is

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<v Speaker 1>that's a powerful symbol of love to one's self, is

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<v Speaker 1>to cook for oneself. And so yeah, it all started

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<v Speaker 1>with that drink of water. I had the drink of water,

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<v Speaker 1>and I thought about what I wanted the day to

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<v Speaker 1>look like. I knew it was on my calendar, but

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<v Speaker 1>I thought about how did I want to feel? And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you today has been a really good day.

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<v Speaker 1>It really apps and not always gonna be this great.

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<v Speaker 1>But that water, that water makes a huge It's just

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<v Speaker 1>a beautiful reset to try it. Try the water and

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<v Speaker 1>tell us what, tell us what happens when you drink

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<v Speaker 1>the water in the morning. I love it so much.

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<v Speaker 1>Riscie got okay day. Thank you so much for making

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<v Speaker 1>the time to join Willkate app daily. Folks, if you're

0:42:47.360 --> 0:42:52.320
<v Speaker 1>not following Strobe Apothecary on Instagram as well as a

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<v Speaker 1>Black Sister Magic, please do follow them. Riscie is creating

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<v Speaker 1>just beautiful energy and beauty and art into the world

0:43:02.160 --> 0:43:05.400
<v Speaker 1>and and and you should all connect with it. Thank you,

0:43:05.560 --> 0:43:11.360
<v Speaker 1>my dear friend. I appreciate you. Thank you for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>It's always an honor. I'm so proud of you. You

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<v Speaker 1>seem to have been you're you're being like the water,

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<v Speaker 1>and I can hear it in your podcast, like you're

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<v Speaker 1>you're you're you're managing things a lot better. So I'm

0:43:21.200 --> 0:43:24.160
<v Speaker 1>excited because I was worried child, you know, I was

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<v Speaker 1>worried for you, Like what is some baby? Do it?

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<v Speaker 1>It's just true. It's true. That is it for me

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<v Speaker 1>today here on Woke f As always, Power to the

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<v Speaker 1>people and to all the people. Power, get woke and

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<v Speaker 1>stay woke as fuck.