WEBVTT - William "Rusty" Russ Meets World 0:00:17.239 --> 0:00:19.159 Writer, I have a very important question to ask you. 0:00:19.400 --> 0:00:25.600 Do you still quartal every day? So do I? Although 0:00:25.680 --> 0:00:29.600 then I got into set Chordal and there's another one. 0:00:29.600 --> 0:00:34.560 There's sixteen at the same time. Sorry sorry, Actortal is 0:00:34.600 --> 0:00:37.360 eight and I was doing that and then Scordal is 0:00:37.400 --> 0:00:38.960 sixteen of them at the same But here's what I 0:00:38.960 --> 0:00:41.240 figured with with those, it completely changes the game because 0:00:41.240 --> 0:00:42.600 then all you would have to do because you would 0:00:42.640 --> 0:00:45.640 have nine chances or even more than because Quartal gives 0:00:45.680 --> 0:00:49.199 you how many seven, so set Chordal would give or 0:00:49.280 --> 0:00:51.360 what they would give you like twelve. So I just 0:00:51.400 --> 0:00:54.440 realized all I gotta do is a do story pros 0:00:54.600 --> 0:00:56.520 night and then I would have like covered the entire 0:00:56.560 --> 0:00:58.200 out And then it was just like so I was like, 0:00:58.200 --> 0:01:00.960 this isn't fun, So I do Quartal. It is a word. 0:01:02.040 --> 0:01:05.800 You have your first two quirt like words, choose a 0:01:05.800 --> 0:01:07.959 different one every time. So Gensen I do it together. 0:01:08.160 --> 0:01:11.880 It's kind of like a bonding thing we do. Uh 0:01:11.920 --> 0:01:14.360 and so sometimes depending on how we're feeling, Gentsen will 0:01:14.400 --> 0:01:16.720 make it really hard and he'll be like, first word, pinch. 0:01:17.000 --> 0:01:21.920 I'm like pinch, okay, but listen to waste and or 0:01:21.959 --> 0:01:24.240 not and I start with always start with I do. 0:01:24.520 --> 0:01:26.880 I start with Earth. Earth is pretty good, pretty good. 0:01:27.000 --> 0:01:32.240 I do a do story every time, like, I'm what 0:01:32.280 --> 0:01:36.479 am I doing here? What's the point of this? Welcome 0:01:36.640 --> 0:01:40.520 to pod meets World, a podcast where we deep dive 0:01:40.600 --> 0:01:43.160 into episodes of boy Meats World until you are behind 0:01:43.160 --> 0:01:47.640 the scenes, stories, feelings, and we do a lot of unpacking. 0:01:48.120 --> 0:01:51.240 If you will, I will, I absolutely will. We should 0:01:51.240 --> 0:01:55.400 have called this Unpacking the World. You're right. We all 0:01:55.440 --> 0:02:02.160 know that this podcast was Will's idea and so oh sorry, sorry, 0:02:02.440 --> 0:02:06.640 you're right. It was actually right idea. It was Will's idea. 0:02:06.680 --> 0:02:08.399 He came up with it on the side yard where 0:02:08.400 --> 0:02:12.040 Phoenie was. It's like when I get asked to call, 0:02:12.120 --> 0:02:14.160 I'm like, oh, you think I'm Will? Oh, I get 0:02:14.200 --> 0:02:15.720 that all the time. It's like you were old man. 0:02:15.800 --> 0:02:17.840 What is it like playing Corey's friend? Like I don't know, 0:02:17.919 --> 0:02:22.520 asked Rider, Speaking of which I am Daniel Fishel, I'm 0:02:22.560 --> 0:02:24.840 wilfrid l and I am right or Strong may be 0:02:24.840 --> 0:02:28.760 better known to you as to Panka, Eric and Sean um. So. 0:02:29.040 --> 0:02:36.359 I am absolutely thrilled we have our first ever guests 0:02:36.400 --> 0:02:43.440 World podcast. This is an incredible guest. Please welcome Rusty Russ. 0:02:43.440 --> 0:02:48.639 William Rusty Russ. You're talking about you know when they're 0:02:48.680 --> 0:02:56.880 going to show up? Oh my god, here, Rusty's here, Rusty. 0:02:56.919 --> 0:03:00.760 They just did a screening of Cruising. Did you know this? 0:03:02.560 --> 0:03:06.000 Who did this creating of Gosh? What theater was it? 0:03:06.080 --> 0:03:09.760 Let's see if my our podcast producer Jensen Carp could 0:03:09.760 --> 0:03:12.800 send it in the our chat. It was a theater 0:03:12.919 --> 0:03:15.640 in l A. They just did another like a live 0:03:15.760 --> 0:03:19.440 showing of a screening of the movie. And I wanted 0:03:19.440 --> 0:03:23.560 to ask you were you at the original premiere? No? 0:03:23.680 --> 0:03:27.359 Probably not. No, No, I actually I don't even remember 0:03:27.880 --> 0:03:32.200 what I do. Remember, you've had such a career, you 0:03:32.200 --> 0:03:37.000 don't even remember. It was literally the second movie ever 0:03:37.400 --> 0:03:43.160 that you did. No, it actually was the third movie. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:03:43.160 --> 0:03:45.760 I did. You and me Kid Brookshield. Yeah, she was 0:03:45.760 --> 0:03:53.880 about fourteen. Oh my gosh, how are you okay? Six? 0:03:57.440 --> 0:04:00.200 Remember I came back. I came back from Mexico. Was 0:04:00.240 --> 0:04:04.360 doing a show called Catalanian Little Bridges with Burt Lancaster, 0:04:04.480 --> 0:04:09.119 Rod Steger, etcetera. And uh and then and I'd work 0:04:09.200 --> 0:04:13.600 with with al Pacino on Broadway, and so I'm doing 0:04:13.600 --> 0:04:15.520 this movie. Come in and I think you can do 0:04:15.600 --> 0:04:19.120 this part and great And it was like for the 0:04:19.160 --> 0:04:22.719 audience who doesn't know Rusty has been in everything, I 0:04:22.720 --> 0:04:25.080 mean aside from where you will know him best as 0:04:25.080 --> 0:04:27.680 Alan Matthews. I did not say that. I just yes, 0:04:28.000 --> 0:04:32.839 the dad, the Matthews family, Matthews family patriarch, and you 0:04:32.880 --> 0:04:39.640 are truly an iconic TV dad and grocer. I know, ralps, 0:04:39.680 --> 0:04:42.160 I'm right up there with the other managers and the 0:04:42.200 --> 0:04:46.920 picture bananas are open there, thank you. You know I 0:04:47.000 --> 0:04:50.600 don't know where the can soup is. Thank you. Still 0:04:50.640 --> 0:04:54.760 still a Methodist, Rusty worked at a grocery store for 0:04:54.839 --> 0:04:57.560 three years before taking on the role of Alan Maths. 0:04:59.240 --> 0:05:01.640 And then what you guys were a camping store by 0:05:01.680 --> 0:05:04.040 the end outdoor? What are the jobs did you have? 0:05:04.320 --> 0:05:07.159 Those are the two main on the show. Yeah, I know, 0:05:07.240 --> 0:05:10.440 Betsy was a real estate agent at one point. Level one. 0:05:12.480 --> 0:05:15.320 It's so funny. There are certain lines I guess just 0:05:15.360 --> 0:05:18.120 because as a as a community we thought certain things 0:05:18.120 --> 0:05:19.960 were funny. I was like in jokes because I remember 0:05:20.000 --> 0:05:22.400 the brick split level when you said clean up on 0:05:22.440 --> 0:05:25.960 Aisle seven and the pilot or remember when you remember 0:05:26.000 --> 0:05:28.080 we used to say that, Oh yeah, we used to 0:05:28.080 --> 0:05:30.120 do all that fill or whatever you had. And the 0:05:30.160 --> 0:05:31.880 second I heard that line, I was like, I remember 0:05:31.920 --> 0:05:35.479 we used to reference to what like we decided to 0:05:35.520 --> 0:05:38.880 make a an inside joke and that was Yes, it 0:05:39.000 --> 0:05:40.919 was one of the one of the ones that you 0:05:40.960 --> 0:05:43.600 and I had. Rusty was years later at the at 0:05:43.640 --> 0:05:48.719 the camping store with you doing the we're trying to 0:05:48.800 --> 0:05:53.360 sell hiking shoes to or or climbing shoes to climbers 0:05:53.480 --> 0:05:55.120 and you have to go like and then halfway down 0:05:55.120 --> 0:05:58.240 they're like they're falling off the cliff. And you and 0:05:58.279 --> 0:06:01.120 I did that for years after that, Right, Yeah, you 0:06:01.240 --> 0:06:03.000 better get these good hiking shooes and you don't want 0:06:03.000 --> 0:06:04.839 to be on the hike going Hell, look over here. 0:06:06.560 --> 0:06:10.120 That's all right, So Rusty, let us walk us through 0:06:10.240 --> 0:06:13.640 coming on too, boymate's world. What what was it like? What? How? 0:06:13.640 --> 0:06:15.760 What was your experience coming on? Did you audition? Did 0:06:15.760 --> 0:06:19.200 you get offered this part? You were replacement there shot 0:06:19.200 --> 0:06:21.360 a pilot with a different dad, Matt McCoy, So I 0:06:21.360 --> 0:06:25.520 want to hear how you came to this world. Well, 0:06:25.560 --> 0:06:28.120 and let me stay right off. Matt McCoy was a 0:06:28.160 --> 0:06:31.080 friend of mine and a terrific actor, and I love 0:06:31.160 --> 0:06:33.279 Matt but then yeah, it's it's just funny. I was 0:06:33.320 --> 0:06:36.200 at a certain point in my career as working and 0:06:36.240 --> 0:06:38.040 I've done the series, and I've done movies and I've 0:06:38.080 --> 0:06:43.160 done this, but you know, and I remember someone asked 0:06:43.160 --> 0:06:45.160 going and would you you could take a meeting on 0:06:45.240 --> 0:06:49.719 this show, and I said, I don't. I'm not, you know, honestly, 0:06:49.800 --> 0:06:53.360 on the sitcom it was hard for me. Yeah, you didn't. 0:06:53.440 --> 0:06:56.400 I didn't get it. I didn't understand it. I didn't 0:06:56.560 --> 0:07:00.680 know how people did them. I didn't. I just didn't understand, 0:07:01.040 --> 0:07:05.440 and I frankly thought I wouldn't be any good. And 0:07:05.680 --> 0:07:08.520 so actually when the first audition or meeting came up, 0:07:08.560 --> 0:07:11.960 I just said, no, I'm really not. I'm sorry. I 0:07:12.040 --> 0:07:14.720 just don't feel comfortable. I think this is not right 0:07:14.800 --> 0:07:19.160 for me, even the genre. And then um so then 0:07:19.160 --> 0:07:21.240 obviously you guys went on did the pilot and I 0:07:21.280 --> 0:07:25.160 did something or whatever it was, and Michael, for whatever reason, 0:07:26.320 --> 0:07:30.920 Michael Jacobs I wouldn't let it go. He did the pilot, 0:07:31.000 --> 0:07:35.440 and then when they sold the shows, he had decided 0:07:35.480 --> 0:07:39.440 that somewhere he still he had wanted me, and I 0:07:39.480 --> 0:07:41.800 think he had seen a Baseball movie, I did Past 0:07:41.800 --> 0:07:45.040 Time some other stuff, and he just had something in 0:07:45.120 --> 0:07:48.240 his head and at that time they came back to 0:07:48.320 --> 0:07:50.920 me and literally it was kind of a practical thing. 0:07:50.960 --> 0:07:53.960 He said, Yeah, they still would like to maybe see 0:07:54.000 --> 0:07:57.440 you on this, but now they're doing thirteen shows. Right, 0:07:57.480 --> 0:08:00.360 it's not a pilot anymore. It's not just one one 0:08:00.440 --> 0:08:04.040 off and there's you know, I mean, I hate to 0:08:04.080 --> 0:08:08.680 say it, but there's real money and you know, and 0:08:08.960 --> 0:08:10.800 I was just at a point in my life I said, well, 0:08:11.160 --> 0:08:15.080 you know, I've always been an exponent of if you 0:08:15.160 --> 0:08:17.760 have door A and door B in front of you 0:08:18.040 --> 0:08:20.920 and you keep banging your head on door A and 0:08:21.000 --> 0:08:25.120 it's just not opening, and door B opens, you're a fool. 0:08:25.120 --> 0:08:27.280 If you keep banging your head on door A, you 0:08:27.360 --> 0:08:29.280 walk through door B and you go, well, let's see 0:08:29.280 --> 0:08:31.440 where this leads. You know. It's funny you said that 0:08:31.520 --> 0:08:35.000 you didn't feel comfortable with the sitcom form or didn't 0:08:35.000 --> 0:08:37.360 really get it, because in a lot of ways, I 0:08:37.360 --> 0:08:39.800 think that's why you were perfect for the show. And 0:08:40.000 --> 0:08:42.520 I think that because I think you know, what happens 0:08:42.520 --> 0:08:45.360 with any form, right is that it becomes stale. And 0:08:45.720 --> 0:08:48.800 I think if actors like, in other words, if if 0:08:48.880 --> 0:08:51.959 the more sitcomy of an actor they had found the 0:08:52.440 --> 0:08:55.679 sort of less meaningful the character would have felt. I mean, 0:08:55.720 --> 0:08:59.920 what what's incredible to me is that your presence is 0:09:00.080 --> 0:09:02.400 so grounding in the show. Yes, you know, and it's 0:09:03.000 --> 0:09:07.040 it's it's it's remarkably like relaxing, and you're not trying 0:09:07.200 --> 0:09:10.440 to go for laughs. You're not trying, You're not a goofy, 0:09:10.640 --> 0:09:12.720 put upon dad, You're you know that. I feel like 0:09:12.720 --> 0:09:15.280 that the father on a sitcom is such it's the 0:09:15.320 --> 0:09:17.559 Homer Simpson trope, right, Like the idea that you're like 0:09:17.880 --> 0:09:20.760 nom and don't know anything and you your character ends 0:09:20.840 --> 0:09:24.920 up feeling like a real dad, not being a joke 0:09:25.040 --> 0:09:27.120 but also being funny, and it's just like it's an 0:09:27.120 --> 0:09:30.079 amazing balance. So I really do think that's probably what 0:09:30.120 --> 0:09:32.840 Michael saw, and I think it's what the show needed. 0:09:33.080 --> 0:09:36.040 It's it's really uncol it is. Yeah, I mean, Michael, 0:09:36.040 --> 0:09:39.120 did I mean for a quote unquote kid show, the 0:09:39.240 --> 0:09:42.160 adults on our show were great. I mean that's the thing, 0:09:42.160 --> 0:09:44.280 as adults on a lot of kids shows are like 0:09:44.440 --> 0:09:47.880 the most ridiculous pulling one over on them. They're kind 0:09:47.880 --> 0:09:50.120 of buffoons. Michael didn't do that with any of the 0:09:50.160 --> 0:09:52.240 adults on it. I mean, all the adults were written 0:09:52.320 --> 0:09:54.760 like adults. You know, it was it was a totally 0:09:54.800 --> 0:09:57.240 different thing. Well, that's a great observation, and I think, 0:09:57.360 --> 0:09:59.520 you know, like I said, it's hard to be objective, 0:10:00.120 --> 0:10:02.400 but you know it's actually I haven't seen the shows 0:10:02.400 --> 0:10:06.600 and like forever, and I watched the other day and 0:10:06.640 --> 0:10:11.640 I kind of went, oh, and now that you mentioned that, yeah, oh, okay, 0:10:11.840 --> 0:10:16.600 I don't really have a banana in my ear right. 0:10:16.880 --> 0:10:21.959 I mean, it seems so wonderful that all I had 0:10:22.000 --> 0:10:24.040 to do is kind of sit back and you know, 0:10:24.600 --> 0:10:36.360 not knock over the furniture. When did you meet Betsy? 0:10:36.640 --> 0:10:39.520 Did you and Betsy have a relationship before Boy Meets 0:10:39.559 --> 0:10:42.480 World started or did you guys meet your first episode? 0:10:42.840 --> 0:10:46.360 Met probably in the first prepisode or the first the 0:10:46.360 --> 0:10:53.640 photo shoot you where we all met. You were seeing petrified. 0:10:55.640 --> 0:10:58.360 I was petrified because I wasn't at the photo shoot. 0:10:58.400 --> 0:11:00.679 So I need to know what was your first impression 0:11:01.360 --> 0:11:04.040 of Will and Writer and the rest of the cast. 0:11:06.200 --> 0:11:08.600 You could be honest, by the way, what have I 0:11:08.640 --> 0:11:15.600 gotten a nicelf? Know? They were it was great, and 0:11:15.679 --> 0:11:18.120 I you know, one thing you have to have as 0:11:18.160 --> 0:11:22.080 an actor, or hopefully you can is you can walk 0:11:22.160 --> 0:11:26.880 into a situation and kinda hopefully listen and watch and 0:11:27.000 --> 0:11:30.440 not impose anything. I was really just trying to stay 0:11:30.480 --> 0:11:33.320 out of the way and not scare anybody, because I 0:11:33.360 --> 0:11:35.640 have a very you know, I've been told I mean, 0:11:35.679 --> 0:11:38.640 I can have an ambrasive or you know, I'm the 0:11:38.720 --> 0:11:41.280 kind of guy you look and go, why are you 0:11:41.320 --> 0:11:45.840 so angry? I agree, I just just my face, you 0:11:45.920 --> 0:11:49.680 scared me. You did, you really, he absolutely did. And 0:11:49.720 --> 0:11:51.240 it was nothing that you did. It wasn't that you 0:11:51.240 --> 0:11:53.760 were angry or had you were just you came in 0:11:53.800 --> 0:11:55.800 and were like I knew who you were and you 0:11:55.840 --> 0:11:59.080 were the consummate actor, and it was I was intimidated. 0:11:59.120 --> 0:12:01.480 So it was like you, you know, you're meeting everybody 0:12:01.480 --> 0:12:03.040 at the at the photo shoot, which by the way, 0:12:03.080 --> 0:12:05.400 that the poster is is five feet from where we're 0:12:05.400 --> 0:12:08.400 sitting right now outside this door. Um, and it's it's 0:12:08.440 --> 0:12:10.319 one of those things where it's like here's your family, 0:12:11.080 --> 0:12:13.400 this is your dad, this is your mom, here's your 0:12:13.440 --> 0:12:16.480 little brother. You're going, oh, no, that Kathy my dad, 0:12:16.559 --> 0:12:18.280 And it was it was just like no, put your 0:12:18.360 --> 0:12:20.160 arm around your dad and it's you're going like, what's 0:12:20.200 --> 0:12:21.920 your name again? Like, oh, that's right, Oh you're a 0:12:21.920 --> 0:12:23.559 William too. It's like, no, call me Rusty. And I 0:12:23.600 --> 0:12:25.720 was like, okay, he's this Gary guy now he played 0:12:25.880 --> 0:12:27.360 I mean, he had just played a gangster and wise 0:12:27.400 --> 0:12:30.679 guys and then rolled into being America's dad. That's the thing. 0:12:30.840 --> 0:12:32.520 So it was like, and you know, I've seen him 0:12:32.559 --> 0:12:34.760 on a bunch of things and you're you're the consummate 0:12:34.760 --> 0:12:36.880 actor where you were always I mean again, you were not. 0:12:37.360 --> 0:12:40.120 You were not sitcom dad. That's what that's exactly right 0:12:40.160 --> 0:12:42.960 here saying you're gonna go cast TV sitcom dad on 0:12:43.000 --> 0:12:46.640 a kid show quote unquote. Other than Michael, there's probably 0:12:46.640 --> 0:12:48.280 not a lot of people at the time that would 0:12:48.280 --> 0:12:51.960 have been like, get me William Russ. So there was 0:12:52.000 --> 0:12:54.360 something like that was brilliant. The same thing with Bill Daniels, Right, 0:12:54.400 --> 0:12:57.280 it's like you take people out of their context as 0:12:57.320 --> 0:13:00.400 like you know, they're acting context, and you you you 0:13:01.320 --> 0:13:04.200 borrow from that to make the show more meaningful. You know. 0:13:04.280 --> 0:13:05.920 It's like it's what I think is part of the 0:13:05.920 --> 0:13:08.640 reason why the show has that level of seriousness is 0:13:08.679 --> 0:13:10.800 that there's the adults with presents and and you know 0:13:10.840 --> 0:13:13.600 the real actors and they're able. No one's just no 0:13:13.600 --> 0:13:16.160 one's hamming it up. No one's like just here for 0:13:16.200 --> 0:13:19.719 the lacept except Ben. But again, but but it was 0:13:20.040 --> 0:13:21.880 he did it. That was the perfect balance of the 0:13:21.880 --> 0:13:24.160 stuff that we needed because Ben was like a little 0:13:24.200 --> 0:13:26.360 stand up comedian, so he he did exactly what he 0:13:26.400 --> 0:13:27.719 was supposed to. And then there was this kind of 0:13:28.240 --> 0:13:32.959 realism surrounding this chaotic twirling character in the center, which 0:13:33.040 --> 0:13:34.559 was which was a great way to do it. I mean, 0:13:34.559 --> 0:13:36.440 that was exactly what you needed. That's why the balance 0:13:36.480 --> 0:13:40.439 between especially uh Ben and Bill was so different, because 0:13:40.440 --> 0:13:43.400 it was that wiley coyote character running around and then 0:13:43.400 --> 0:13:46.120 Bill Daniels right next to what was your relationship with Bill? 0:13:46.240 --> 0:13:48.760 Had you known Bill before the shows? Actually I had. 0:13:48.520 --> 0:13:53.800 I had actually worked on st Elsewhere three episodes they 0:13:53.840 --> 0:13:56.760 did one they did they did like three episodes where 0:13:56.760 --> 0:13:59.240 they went into the past and they followed a patient 0:13:59.400 --> 0:14:03.520 like not just me, but through thirty years. I was 0:14:03.559 --> 0:14:07.000 there as a young person with an accident middle age, 0:14:07.040 --> 0:14:09.960 and then I was there as an older chargery had 0:14:10.000 --> 0:14:12.960 a heart at and so I'd work with Bill there 0:14:13.080 --> 0:14:14.719 and then Also I had come out to l A 0:14:14.760 --> 0:14:17.839 and we had done a TV movie together called Rehearsal 0:14:17.920 --> 0:14:25.400 for Murder Movies Movies of the Week with Lynn Redgrave 0:14:26.360 --> 0:14:33.400 and uh music man actor anyway, but a lot of 0:14:33.400 --> 0:14:38.320 big actors, pytro McGee, you know, Jeff Goldbloom's and it 0:14:38.520 --> 0:14:41.000 was a murder mystery and I ended up to being 0:14:41.520 --> 0:14:48.520 the guy that did it. Alert it was just semi 0:14:48.520 --> 0:14:52.360 five bucks. I'll send you the link. But anyway, so, yeah, 0:14:52.400 --> 0:14:55.040 i'd work with Bill and you know, so and so 0:14:55.120 --> 0:14:58.480 we you know, we knew each other, and so Bill 0:14:58.520 --> 0:15:01.080 didn't scare the crap out of you, like did us. Look, 0:15:01.120 --> 0:15:04.480 there's there's a picture we're looking Okay, we'll put this 0:15:04.560 --> 0:15:10.720 on our Pod Meets World show. At the photo you 0:15:10.720 --> 0:15:12.760 can see it. It's a picture of Bill Daniels and 0:15:12.840 --> 0:15:21.200 Rusty in Jeff and Jeff Goldblum row who in that? 0:15:21.640 --> 0:15:23.520 But then you got to work with right or Strong 0:15:24.560 --> 0:15:30.440 Wilfred of course. Yeah, you may remember him as Sean Hunt, 0:15:30.480 --> 0:15:33.560 Shawn Hunt. He did the Phoenie Call, you know. Honestly, 0:15:34.080 --> 0:15:36.280 Rusty and I barely got to work together on Boy 0:15:36.320 --> 0:15:39.280 Meats World until later, until later you know we So, 0:15:39.320 --> 0:15:41.400 I mean, I I. Yeah, it's funny because, like I, 0:15:41.440 --> 0:15:43.680 I just we never even had scenes together because I 0:15:43.680 --> 0:15:46.520 was always you know, isolated from I was always at 0:15:46.520 --> 0:15:48.360 the school situation, you know, So I didn't get to 0:15:48.400 --> 0:15:50.800 know Rusty, I would say, for a couple of years, 0:15:50.840 --> 0:15:53.040 like really get to know him, you know, and it 0:15:53.200 --> 0:15:55.480 was actually anybody gets to really get to know Rusty. Well, 0:15:55.600 --> 0:15:58.200 Postboy Meets World, Rusty and I spent more time together. 0:15:58.240 --> 0:16:00.400 We did a movie together that I produe and he 0:16:00.440 --> 0:16:02.760 came up, and that's when I really became friends with him. 0:16:02.800 --> 0:16:05.840 And then Girl Meets World. But yeah, during Boy I remember, 0:16:06.400 --> 0:16:08.160 you know, both he and Betsy were kind of a 0:16:08.280 --> 0:16:11.400 distanced from from my experience, which is interesting to think. 0:16:11.560 --> 0:16:15.640 We we we've we've often talked about the multiple boy 0:16:15.680 --> 0:16:17.720 meet worlds, and it started right at the beginning. I mean, 0:16:17.720 --> 0:16:19.640 it really was. There was a show that took place 0:16:19.640 --> 0:16:21.200 in the school, and then there was a show that 0:16:21.240 --> 0:16:24.800 took place at home, and then the through line thread 0:16:25.000 --> 0:16:28.720 was Mr Feenie, who was in both areas. But other 0:16:28.760 --> 0:16:30.560 than that, I mean, that's why I always said, you 0:16:30.600 --> 0:16:32.720 and I did not work together for years and years ago. 0:16:32.680 --> 0:16:34.840 Well there's a rumor and you guys can clear this 0:16:34.920 --> 0:16:37.000 up if it's true or not. There is a rumor 0:16:37.120 --> 0:16:39.920 that goes around on the internet that the reason you 0:16:39.960 --> 0:16:43.040 guys didn't do a lot of scenes together is that 0:16:43.120 --> 0:16:46.200 you could not keep it together. You guys were constantly laughing, 0:16:46.280 --> 0:16:48.600 making each other laugh. No, that's not true at all. 0:16:48.600 --> 0:16:54.040 It's actually that rider steals things. You'd be halfway through 0:16:54.040 --> 0:16:58.240 a scene and be like, my wallet's gone. That is 0:16:58.280 --> 0:17:00.400 absolutely true. Is true, It is true. But that was 0:17:00.520 --> 0:17:03.240 that was later. That was what happened is Will and 0:17:03.280 --> 0:17:05.680 I started asking to be able to do a scene 0:17:05.720 --> 0:17:08.200 together because we hated We were friends in real life, 0:17:08.240 --> 0:17:10.480 we were constantly hanging out, but we were never in 0:17:10.520 --> 0:17:13.199 scenes together. So we asked them to write us scenes. 0:17:13.640 --> 0:17:15.560 They wrote one and we could not get through it, 0:17:16.560 --> 0:17:19.239 and we in front of the audience. I mean, and 0:17:19.280 --> 0:17:21.440 that's like time consuming. That is that you know when 0:17:21.440 --> 0:17:23.840 you're when you can't get through a scene. Uh yeah, 0:17:23.920 --> 0:17:26.760 I have. I have a tendency to indicate that I'm 0:17:26.800 --> 0:17:29.520 about to laugh and try and overcompensate by making a 0:17:29.640 --> 0:17:34.160 very serious face, which, if you know me, is so transparent. 0:17:34.200 --> 0:17:36.440 I'm sure we're going to see it when we're watching episodes. 0:17:36.480 --> 0:17:38.239 And because I'm sure it made it to air, and 0:17:38.440 --> 0:17:41.040 hopefully nobody knows at home. But I am constantly trying 0:17:41.040 --> 0:17:42.800 not to laugh when I'm in a scene with Will, 0:17:42.880 --> 0:17:46.399 and he sees it and loses it. So yeah, it 0:17:46.480 --> 0:17:48.520 was a disaster. And so then they decided we can 0:17:48.600 --> 0:17:51.280 never work together. So, Rusty, you had worked with al 0:17:51.320 --> 0:17:54.720 Pacino a million different people who were professional, and then 0:17:55.400 --> 0:17:58.480 you get to work with a bunch of kids. What, truthfully, 0:17:58.960 --> 0:18:01.359 you don't have to you don't have to sugarcoat anything 0:18:01.400 --> 0:18:03.400 for us. What was it like working with a bunch 0:18:03.400 --> 0:18:06.840 of kids. It was fascinating. Yeah, I know it was. 0:18:06.960 --> 0:18:08.920 It was. It was really fun. I mean, you guys 0:18:08.920 --> 0:18:12.840 are just fun to watch, and I I kind of 0:18:12.960 --> 0:18:16.560 totally loved it, tell you the truth. You know, once 0:18:16.600 --> 0:18:21.320 I let myself just relax and go okay, okay, and 0:18:21.359 --> 0:18:24.760 I was a learning process because you guys are funny 0:18:24.800 --> 0:18:29.359 and spontaneous and I loved watching you. I still remember, 0:18:29.359 --> 0:18:31.760 and I remember not so much even the war, but 0:18:31.880 --> 0:18:34.880 just you as people going to school and working so hard. 0:18:34.960 --> 0:18:40.800 I still can see you guys during Halloween walking across 0:18:40.920 --> 0:18:44.520 to this stage in a line on Halloween, going from 0:18:44.560 --> 0:18:47.320 school to the set right this is indebted in my 0:18:47.760 --> 0:18:51.280 in my memory, you guys all in your Halloween costumes 0:18:52.520 --> 0:18:55.639 parade a little post first season. Yeah, I remember that. 0:18:56.320 --> 0:19:00.159 You have that photo burned in my memory. Jane, what 0:19:00.240 --> 0:19:10.080 were you a french Maid about? Sexy Hallow sexy french Maid? 0:19:10.800 --> 0:19:13.080 I had a picture of it. We can also post 0:19:13.160 --> 0:19:15.720 that on the Boy Meet the Pod Meets World show 0:19:15.840 --> 0:19:20.560 Instagram account. Pictures that I have with April Kelly. How 0:19:20.560 --> 0:19:22.280 did we decide? Because I remember we made a big 0:19:22.280 --> 0:19:23.920 deal out of that Halloween. Will and I went and 0:19:23.960 --> 0:19:28.760 rented costumes. Then we rented costumes. Joker, you were Batman. 0:19:29.440 --> 0:19:33.639 I bought mine at the Halloween store for like you 0:19:33.640 --> 0:19:36.080 guys did something much more. But what was like? So 0:19:36.280 --> 0:19:39.159 I guess maybe the teachers or we did we decided 0:19:39.200 --> 0:19:40.840 to do that. I mean, I've always been a huge 0:19:40.840 --> 0:19:45.520 Halloween fans. Maybe weach of us guaranteed, but yeah, so 0:19:45.560 --> 0:19:47.240 we it was our table read day, so it was 0:19:47.280 --> 0:19:49.760 a Thursday. I guess Halloween landed on that day. And 0:19:49.840 --> 0:19:52.320 we dressed up and went to the table red table 0:19:52.320 --> 0:19:54.960 read in full costume and everybody stood up and applauded. 0:19:55.240 --> 0:19:57.040 Was don't you remember you and I did a fake 0:19:57.280 --> 0:20:00.040 fight because I had blood. We had blood cat so 0:20:01.480 --> 0:20:03.879 everybody like their bleeding look, even a blood caps It 0:20:03.960 --> 0:20:06.760 was such a one of the most memorable halloweens in 0:20:06.800 --> 0:20:09.240 my first season of Boy Meat the World. That's so funny. 0:20:09.440 --> 0:20:12.480 So one of the things getting back to you, Mr Russ, 0:20:12.880 --> 0:20:15.439 I remember, thank you, thank you for being here. Um. 0:20:15.880 --> 0:20:19.240 One of the things I remember is always thinking I 0:20:19.280 --> 0:20:22.080 didn't know what I was doing and wasn't doing enough 0:20:22.119 --> 0:20:27.080 homework every time I saw your script, because your script 0:20:27.320 --> 0:20:31.520 was like script marked up, ripped apart this world, and 0:20:31.520 --> 0:20:33.919 I eventually I was like, why is that word circle? 0:20:34.040 --> 0:20:36.840 But that one is a square? Why is that diamond shape? 0:20:38.280 --> 0:20:41.400 I love Rusty during a table read with his pencil 0:20:42.160 --> 0:20:45.560 and then and then he would put the scripts everywhere 0:20:45.560 --> 0:20:47.960 on the set, so you would be in the middle 0:20:47.960 --> 0:20:50.280 of a scene in front of the audience and he'd 0:20:50.320 --> 0:20:52.600 be like, hang on, and he'd reach under the cushion 0:20:52.760 --> 0:20:55.840 of the chair that he was sitting on and marked script. 0:20:56.240 --> 0:20:57.879 And I remember just looking at you and thinking to 0:20:57.920 --> 0:21:00.600 myself like I'm I'm he's he's doing this better than 0:21:00.600 --> 0:21:02.560 me because I don't know what I'm doing. Breakdown how 0:21:02.600 --> 0:21:05.920 you mark up your scripts well? It's because I'm kind 0:21:05.920 --> 0:21:09.960 of have kind of you know, special needs as an actor, 0:21:10.040 --> 0:21:18.160 and I found many many years ago that physically underlining marking. 0:21:19.160 --> 0:21:21.439 I mean, it's really just really I've always done it. 0:21:21.440 --> 0:21:23.199 What we're doing plays. I mean, if you look at 0:21:24.040 --> 0:21:28.679 copies of plays I did, they're like falling apart. But physically, 0:21:28.960 --> 0:21:34.399 I'm literally saying, physically writing something down goes into my brain. 0:21:35.160 --> 0:21:37.920 I can't just look at I have to physically. There's 0:21:37.920 --> 0:21:42.720 a connection between physically doing something and in my part 0:21:42.760 --> 0:21:45.639 of my brain that records that I've heard of actors 0:21:45.680 --> 0:21:49.840 actually like writing out their entire Yeah, but that's all. 0:21:49.880 --> 0:21:54.040 It really was your process and yeah, you guys really 0:21:54.080 --> 0:21:59.359 weren't working enough. You're so naturally talented. I had to 0:21:59.400 --> 0:22:03.679 actually thank you the first night I saw it, and 0:22:03.720 --> 0:22:07.760 being like, I guess I'll underline this line we're supposed 0:22:07.800 --> 0:22:09.280 to get. I'm supposed to do this, so I'm going 0:22:09.320 --> 0:22:13.480 to circle this and put a triangle around Phoenie. So 0:22:13.560 --> 0:22:16.560 there isn't like a glossary. It's literally just any particular 0:22:16.600 --> 0:22:18.800 marking you do around things like the diamond or the 0:22:18.840 --> 0:22:23.040 square doesn't actually mean something to you specifically. It's just okay, 0:22:23.840 --> 0:22:26.359 it's and it's just it's just the physical thing of 0:22:26.400 --> 0:22:29.480 getting it into my head. It's like being an athlete. 0:22:29.520 --> 0:22:33.040 I had to physically do the movement and write it down, 0:22:33.040 --> 0:22:35.320 and that would something and also would help me get 0:22:35.880 --> 0:22:39.240