1 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:19,159 Speaker 1: Writer, I have a very important question to ask you. 2 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 1: Do you still quartal every day? So do I? Although 3 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: then I got into set Chordal and there's another one. 4 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:34,560 Speaker 1: There's sixteen at the same time. Sorry sorry, Actortal is 5 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: eight and I was doing that and then Scordal is 6 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: sixteen of them at the same But here's what I 7 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:41,240 Speaker 1: figured with with those, it completely changes the game because 8 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 1: then all you would have to do because you would 9 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: have nine chances or even more than because Quartal gives 10 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:49,199 Speaker 1: you how many seven, so set Chordal would give or 11 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: what they would give you like twelve. So I just 12 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 1: realized all I gotta do is a do story pros 13 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 1: night and then I would have like covered the entire 14 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: out And then it was just like so I was like, 15 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: this isn't fun, So I do Quartal. It is a word. 16 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: You have your first two quirt like words, choose a 17 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 1: different one every time. So Gensen I do it together. 18 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: It's kind of like a bonding thing we do. Uh 19 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: and so sometimes depending on how we're feeling, Gentsen will 20 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: make it really hard and he'll be like, first word, pinch. 21 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: I'm like pinch, okay, but listen to waste and or 22 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: not and I start with always start with I do. 23 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: I start with Earth. Earth is pretty good, pretty good. 24 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: I do a do story every time, like, I'm what 25 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:36,479 Speaker 1: am I doing here? What's the point of this? Welcome 26 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: to pod meets World, a podcast where we deep dive 27 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: into episodes of boy Meats World until you are behind 28 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 1: the scenes, stories, feelings, and we do a lot of unpacking. 29 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: If you will, I will, I absolutely will. We should 30 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: have called this Unpacking the World. You're right. We all 31 00:01:55,440 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: know that this podcast was Will's idea and so oh sorry, sorry, 32 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: you're right. It was actually right idea. It was Will's idea. 33 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:08,399 Speaker 1: He came up with it on the side yard where 34 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: Phoenie was. It's like when I get asked to call, 35 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, you think I'm Will? Oh, I get 36 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: that all the time. It's like you were old man. 37 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 1: What is it like playing Corey's friend? Like I don't know, 38 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 1: asked Rider, Speaking of which I am Daniel Fishel, I'm 39 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 1: wilfrid l and I am right or Strong may be 40 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: better known to you as to Panka, Eric and Sean um. So. 41 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:36,359 Speaker 1: I am absolutely thrilled we have our first ever guests 42 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: World podcast. This is an incredible guest. Please welcome Rusty Russ. 43 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 1: William Rusty Russ. You're talking about you know when they're 44 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: going to show up? Oh my god, here, Rusty's here, Rusty. 45 00:02:56,919 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 1: They just did a screening of Cruising. Did you know this? 46 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: Who did this creating of Gosh? What theater was it? 47 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: Let's see if my our podcast producer Jensen Carp could 48 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 1: send it in the our chat. It was a theater 49 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 1: in l A. They just did another like a live 50 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: showing of a screening of the movie. And I wanted 51 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: to ask you were you at the original premiere? No? 52 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:27,359 Speaker 1: Probably not. No, No, I actually I don't even remember 53 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: what I do. Remember, you've had such a career, you 54 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 1: don't even remember. It was literally the second movie ever 55 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: that you did. No, it actually was the third movie. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 56 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 1: I did. You and me Kid Brookshield. Yeah, she was 57 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: about fourteen. Oh my gosh, how are you okay? Six? 58 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 1: Remember I came back. I came back from Mexico. Was 59 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: doing a show called Catalanian Little Bridges with Burt Lancaster, 60 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:09,119 Speaker 1: Rod Steger, etcetera. And uh and then and I'd work 61 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: with with al Pacino on Broadway, and so I'm doing 62 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 1: this movie. Come in and I think you can do 63 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: this part and great And it was like for the 64 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 1: audience who doesn't know Rusty has been in everything, I 65 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 1: mean aside from where you will know him best as 66 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 1: Alan Matthews. I did not say that. I just yes, 67 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 1: the dad, the Matthews family, Matthews family patriarch, and you 68 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: are truly an iconic TV dad and grocer. I know, ralps, 69 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:42,160 Speaker 1: I'm right up there with the other managers and the 70 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 1: picture bananas are open there, thank you. You know I 71 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 1: don't know where the can soup is. Thank you. Still 72 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 1: still a Methodist, Rusty worked at a grocery store for 73 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: three years before taking on the role of Alan Maths. 74 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: And then what you guys were a camping store by 75 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 1: the end outdoor? What are the jobs did you have? 76 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 1: Those are the two main on the show. Yeah, I know, 77 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: Betsy was a real estate agent at one point. Level one. 78 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: It's so funny. There are certain lines I guess just 79 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: because as a as a community we thought certain things 80 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: were funny. I was like in jokes because I remember 81 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: the brick split level when you said clean up on 82 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: Aisle seven and the pilot or remember when you remember 83 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: we used to say that, Oh yeah, we used to 84 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 1: do all that fill or whatever you had. And the 85 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: second I heard that line, I was like, I remember 86 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:35,479 Speaker 1: we used to reference to what like we decided to 87 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: make a an inside joke and that was Yes, it 88 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:40,919 Speaker 1: was one of the one of the ones that you 89 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:43,600 Speaker 1: and I had. Rusty was years later at the at 90 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 1: the camping store with you doing the we're trying to 91 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 1: sell hiking shoes to or or climbing shoes to climbers 92 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: and you have to go like and then halfway down 93 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 1: they're like they're falling off the cliff. And you and 94 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: I did that for years after that, Right, Yeah, you 95 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: better get these good hiking shooes and you don't want 96 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 1: to be on the hike going Hell, look over here. 97 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 1: That's all right, So Rusty, let us walk us through 98 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 1: coming on too, boymate's world. What what was it like? What? How? 99 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: What was your experience coming on? Did you audition? Did 100 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: you get offered this part? You were replacement there shot 101 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 1: a pilot with a different dad, Matt McCoy, So I 102 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 1: want to hear how you came to this world. Well, 103 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: and let me stay right off. Matt McCoy was a 104 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 1: friend of mine and a terrific actor, and I love 105 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 1: Matt but then yeah, it's it's just funny. I was 106 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: at a certain point in my career as working and 107 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 1: I've done the series, and I've done movies and I've 108 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 1: done this, but you know, and I remember someone asked 109 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 1: going and would you you could take a meeting on 110 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:49,719 Speaker 1: this show, and I said, I don't. I'm not, you know, honestly, 111 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 1: on the sitcom it was hard for me. Yeah, you didn't. 112 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: I didn't get it. I didn't understand it. I didn't 113 00:06:56,560 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 1: know how people did them. I didn't. I just didn't understand, 114 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: and I frankly thought I wouldn't be any good. And 115 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 1: so actually when the first audition or meeting came up, 116 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: I just said, no, I'm really not. I'm sorry. I 117 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: just don't feel comfortable. I think this is not right 118 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: for me, even the genre. And then um so then 119 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 1: obviously you guys went on did the pilot and I 120 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: did something or whatever it was, and Michael, for whatever reason, 121 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 1: Michael Jacobs I wouldn't let it go. He did the pilot, 122 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 1: and then when they sold the shows, he had decided 123 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: that somewhere he still he had wanted me, and I 124 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 1: think he had seen a Baseball movie, I did Past 125 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: Time some other stuff, and he just had something in 126 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 1: his head and at that time they came back to 127 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: me and literally it was kind of a practical thing. 128 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: He said, Yeah, they still would like to maybe see 129 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: you on this, but now they're doing thirteen shows. Right, 130 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: it's not a pilot anymore. It's not just one one 131 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: off and there's you know, I mean, I hate to 132 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 1: say it, but there's real money and you know, and 133 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: I was just at a point in my life I said, well, 134 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 1: you know, I've always been an exponent of if you 135 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 1: have door A and door B in front of you 136 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 1: and you keep banging your head on door A and 137 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 1: it's just not opening, and door B opens, you're a fool. 138 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 1: If you keep banging your head on door A, you 139 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 1: walk through door B and you go, well, let's see 140 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 1: where this leads. You know. It's funny you said that 141 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: you didn't feel comfortable with the sitcom form or didn't 142 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 1: really get it, because in a lot of ways, I 143 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: think that's why you were perfect for the show. And 144 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: I think that because I think you know, what happens 145 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 1: with any form, right is that it becomes stale. And 146 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: I think if actors like, in other words, if if 147 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:51,959 Speaker 1: the more sitcomy of an actor they had found the 148 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:55,679 Speaker 1: sort of less meaningful the character would have felt. I mean, 149 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: what what's incredible to me is that your presence is 150 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: so grounding in the show. Yes, you know, and it's 151 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 1: it's it's it's remarkably like relaxing, and you're not trying 152 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 1: to go for laughs. You're not trying, You're not a goofy, 153 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 1: put upon dad, You're you know that. I feel like 154 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: that the father on a sitcom is such it's the 155 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:17,559 Speaker 1: Homer Simpson trope, right, Like the idea that you're like 156 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: nom and don't know anything and you your character ends 157 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: up feeling like a real dad, not being a joke 158 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: but also being funny, and it's just like it's an 159 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:30,079 Speaker 1: amazing balance. So I really do think that's probably what 160 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 1: Michael saw, and I think it's what the show needed. 161 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: It's it's really uncol it is. Yeah, I mean, Michael, 162 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 1: did I mean for a quote unquote kid show, the 163 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 1: adults on our show were great. I mean that's the thing, 164 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: as adults on a lot of kids shows are like 165 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 1: the most ridiculous pulling one over on them. They're kind 166 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 1: of buffoons. Michael didn't do that with any of the 167 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 1: adults on it. I mean, all the adults were written 168 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 1: like adults. You know, it was it was a totally 169 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: different thing. Well, that's a great observation, and I think, 170 00:09:57,360 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: you know, like I said, it's hard to be objective, 171 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: but you know it's actually I haven't seen the shows 172 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 1: and like forever, and I watched the other day and 173 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: I kind of went, oh, and now that you mentioned that, yeah, oh, okay, 174 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 1: I don't really have a banana in my ear right. 175 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:21,959 Speaker 1: I mean, it seems so wonderful that all I had 176 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: to do is kind of sit back and you know, 177 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 1: not knock over the furniture. When did you meet Betsy? 178 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 1: Did you and Betsy have a relationship before Boy Meets 179 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: World started or did you guys meet your first episode? 180 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: Met probably in the first prepisode or the first the 181 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: photo shoot you where we all met. You were seeing petrified. 182 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 1: I was petrified because I wasn't at the photo shoot. 183 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:00,679 Speaker 1: So I need to know what was your first impression 184 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: of Will and Writer and the rest of the cast. 185 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 1: You could be honest, by the way, what have I 186 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 1: gotten a nicelf? Know? They were it was great, and 187 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 1: I you know, one thing you have to have as 188 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 1: an actor, or hopefully you can is you can walk 189 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 1: into a situation and kinda hopefully listen and watch and 190 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 1: not impose anything. I was really just trying to stay 191 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 1: out of the way and not scare anybody, because I 192 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 1: have a very you know, I've been told I mean, 193 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: I can have an ambrasive or you know, I'm the 194 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: kind of guy you look and go, why are you 195 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 1: so angry? I agree, I just just my face, you 196 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:49,680 Speaker 1: scared me. You did, you really, he absolutely did. And 197 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 1: it was nothing that you did. It wasn't that you 198 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: were angry or had you were just you came in 199 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 1: and were like I knew who you were and you 200 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 1: were the consummate actor, and it was I was intimidated. 201 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 1: So it was like you, you know, you're meeting everybody 202 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 1: at the at the photo shoot, which by the way, 203 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: that the poster is is five feet from where we're 204 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 1: sitting right now outside this door. Um, and it's it's 205 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:10,319 Speaker 1: one of those things where it's like here's your family, 206 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 1: this is your dad, this is your mom, here's your 207 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 1: little brother. You're going, oh, no, that Kathy my dad, 208 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: And it was it was just like no, put your 209 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: arm around your dad and it's you're going like, what's 210 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 1: your name again? Like, oh, that's right, Oh you're a 211 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:23,559 Speaker 1: William too. It's like, no, call me Rusty. And I 212 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 1: was like, okay, he's this Gary guy now he played 213 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 1: I mean, he had just played a gangster and wise 214 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:30,679 Speaker 1: guys and then rolled into being America's dad. That's the thing. 215 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: So it was like, and you know, I've seen him 216 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 1: on a bunch of things and you're you're the consummate 217 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 1: actor where you were always I mean again, you were not. 218 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: You were not sitcom dad. That's what that's exactly right 219 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 1: here saying you're gonna go cast TV sitcom dad on 220 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 1: a kid show quote unquote. Other than Michael, there's probably 221 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 1: not a lot of people at the time that would 222 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 1: have been like, get me William Russ. So there was 223 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: something like that was brilliant. The same thing with Bill Daniels, Right, 224 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 1: it's like you take people out of their context as 225 00:12:57,320 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 1: like you know, they're acting context, and you you you 226 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 1: borrow from that to make the show more meaningful. You know. 227 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 1: It's like it's what I think is part of the 228 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 1: reason why the show has that level of seriousness is 229 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: that there's the adults with presents and and you know 230 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: the real actors and they're able. No one's just no 231 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 1: one's hamming it up. No one's like just here for 232 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:19,719 Speaker 1: the lacept except Ben. But again, but but it was 233 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: he did it. That was the perfect balance of the 234 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 1: stuff that we needed because Ben was like a little 235 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 1: stand up comedian, so he he did exactly what he 236 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:27,719 Speaker 1: was supposed to. And then there was this kind of 237 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:32,959 Speaker 1: realism surrounding this chaotic twirling character in the center, which 238 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:34,559 Speaker 1: was which was a great way to do it. I mean, 239 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 1: that was exactly what you needed. That's why the balance 240 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:40,439 Speaker 1: between especially uh Ben and Bill was so different, because 241 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 1: it was that wiley coyote character running around and then 242 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: Bill Daniels right next to what was your relationship with Bill? 243 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 1: Had you known Bill before the shows? Actually I had. 244 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 1: I had actually worked on st Elsewhere three episodes they 245 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: did one they did they did like three episodes where 246 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 1: they went into the past and they followed a patient 247 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 1: like not just me, but through thirty years. I was 248 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 1: there as a young person with an accident middle age, 249 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 1: and then I was there as an older chargery had 250 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 1: a heart at and so I'd work with Bill there 251 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:14,719 Speaker 1: and then Also I had come out to l A 252 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:17,839 Speaker 1: and we had done a TV movie together called Rehearsal 253 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 1: for Murder Movies Movies of the Week with Lynn Redgrave 254 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 1: and uh music man actor anyway, but a lot of 255 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: big actors, pytro McGee, you know, Jeff Goldbloom's and it 256 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 1: was a murder mystery and I ended up to being 257 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: the guy that did it. Alert it was just semi 258 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: five bucks. I'll send you the link. But anyway, so, yeah, 259 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: i'd work with Bill and you know, so and so 260 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 1: we you know, we knew each other, and so Bill 261 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: didn't scare the crap out of you, like did us. Look, 262 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 1: there's there's a picture we're looking Okay, we'll put this 263 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: on our Pod Meets World show. At the photo you 264 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 1: can see it. It's a picture of Bill Daniels and 265 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 1: Rusty in Jeff and Jeff Goldblum row who in that? 266 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 1: But then you got to work with right or Strong 267 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: Wilfred of course. Yeah, you may remember him as Sean Hunt, 268 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 1: Shawn Hunt. He did the Phoenie Call, you know. Honestly, 269 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 1: Rusty and I barely got to work together on Boy 270 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 1: Meats World until later, until later you know we So, 271 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 1: I mean, I I. Yeah, it's funny because, like I, 272 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: I just we never even had scenes together because I 273 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 1: was always you know, isolated from I was always at 274 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 1: the school situation, you know, So I didn't get to 275 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 1: know Rusty, I would say, for a couple of years, 276 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 1: like really get to know him, you know, and it 277 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 1: was actually anybody gets to really get to know Rusty. Well, 278 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 1: Postboy Meets World, Rusty and I spent more time together. 279 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: We did a movie together that I produe and he 280 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: came up, and that's when I really became friends with him. 281 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: And then Girl Meets World. But yeah, during Boy I remember, 282 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 1: you know, both he and Betsy were kind of a 283 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 1: distanced from from my experience, which is interesting to think. 284 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 1: We we we've we've often talked about the multiple boy 285 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 1: meet worlds, and it started right at the beginning. I mean, 286 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: it really was. There was a show that took place 287 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 1: in the school, and then there was a show that 288 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 1: took place at home, and then the through line thread 289 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 1: was Mr Feenie, who was in both areas. But other 290 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 1: than that, I mean, that's why I always said, you 291 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 1: and I did not work together for years and years ago. 292 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: Well there's a rumor and you guys can clear this 293 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 1: up if it's true or not. There is a rumor 294 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: that goes around on the internet that the reason you 295 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 1: guys didn't do a lot of scenes together is that 296 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: you could not keep it together. You guys were constantly laughing, 297 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 1: making each other laugh. No, that's not true at all. 298 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 1: It's actually that rider steals things. You'd be halfway through 299 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 1: a scene and be like, my wallet's gone. That is 300 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 1: absolutely true. Is true, It is true. But that was 301 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 1: that was later. That was what happened is Will and 302 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:05,680 Speaker 1: I started asking to be able to do a scene 303 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 1: together because we hated We were friends in real life, 304 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 1: we were constantly hanging out, but we were never in 305 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:13,199 Speaker 1: scenes together. So we asked them to write us scenes. 306 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 1: They wrote one and we could not get through it, 307 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:19,239 Speaker 1: and we in front of the audience. I mean, and 308 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 1: that's like time consuming. That is that you know when 309 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: you're when you can't get through a scene. Uh yeah, 310 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 1: I have. I have a tendency to indicate that I'm 311 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 1: about to laugh and try and overcompensate by making a 312 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:34,160 Speaker 1: very serious face, which, if you know me, is so transparent. 313 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 1: I'm sure we're going to see it when we're watching episodes. 314 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:38,239 Speaker 1: And because I'm sure it made it to air, and 315 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 1: hopefully nobody knows at home. But I am constantly trying 316 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: not to laugh when I'm in a scene with Will, 317 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:46,399 Speaker 1: and he sees it and loses it. So yeah, it 318 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 1: was a disaster. And so then they decided we can 319 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: never work together. So, Rusty, you had worked with al 320 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 1: Pacino a million different people who were professional, and then 321 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 1: you get to work with a bunch of kids. What, truthfully, 322 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 1: you don't have to you don't have to sugarcoat anything 323 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:03,400 Speaker 1: for us. What was it like working with a bunch 324 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 1: of kids. It was fascinating. Yeah, I know it was. 325 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 1: It was. It was really fun. I mean, you guys 326 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 1: are just fun to watch, and I I kind of 327 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 1: totally loved it, tell you the truth. You know, once 328 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: I let myself just relax and go okay, okay, and 329 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 1: I was a learning process because you guys are funny 330 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 1: and spontaneous and I loved watching you. I still remember, 331 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 1: and I remember not so much even the war, but 332 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:34,880 Speaker 1: just you as people going to school and working so hard. 333 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 1: I still can see you guys during Halloween walking across 334 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 1: to this stage in a line on Halloween, going from 335 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 1: school to the set right this is indebted in my 336 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 1: in my memory, you guys all in your Halloween costumes 337 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:55,639 Speaker 1: parade a little post first season. Yeah, I remember that. 338 00:18:56,320 --> 00:19:00,159 Speaker 1: You have that photo burned in my memory. Jane, what 339 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: were you a french Maid about? Sexy Hallow sexy french Maid? 340 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 1: I had a picture of it. We can also post 341 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 1: that on the Boy Meet the Pod Meets World show 342 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 1: Instagram account. Pictures that I have with April Kelly. How 343 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 1: did we decide? Because I remember we made a big 344 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 1: deal out of that Halloween. Will and I went and 345 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 1: rented costumes. Then we rented costumes. Joker, you were Batman. 346 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:33,639 Speaker 1: I bought mine at the Halloween store for like you 347 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 1: guys did something much more. But what was like? So 348 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:39,159 Speaker 1: I guess maybe the teachers or we did we decided 349 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 1: to do that. I mean, I've always been a huge 350 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 1: Halloween fans. Maybe weach of us guaranteed, but yeah, so 351 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 1: we it was our table read day, so it was 352 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: a Thursday. I guess Halloween landed on that day. And 353 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 1: we dressed up and went to the table red table 354 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 1: read in full costume and everybody stood up and applauded. 355 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 1: Was don't you remember you and I did a fake 356 00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:00,040 Speaker 1: fight because I had blood. We had blood cat so 357 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 1: everybody like their bleeding look, even a blood caps It 358 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 1: was such a one of the most memorable halloweens in 359 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 1: my first season of Boy Meat the World. That's so funny. 360 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 1: So one of the things getting back to you, Mr Russ, 361 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:15,439 Speaker 1: I remember, thank you, thank you for being here. Um. 362 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 1: One of the things I remember is always thinking I 363 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 1: didn't know what I was doing and wasn't doing enough 364 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: homework every time I saw your script, because your script 365 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 1: was like script marked up, ripped apart this world, and 366 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:33,919 Speaker 1: I eventually I was like, why is that word circle? 367 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 1: But that one is a square? Why is that diamond shape? 368 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:41,400 Speaker 1: I love Rusty during a table read with his pencil 369 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 1: and then and then he would put the scripts everywhere 370 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: on the set, so you would be in the middle 371 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: of a scene in front of the audience and he'd 372 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 1: be like, hang on, and he'd reach under the cushion 373 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 1: of the chair that he was sitting on and marked script. 374 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:57,879 Speaker 1: And I remember just looking at you and thinking to 375 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 1: myself like I'm I'm he's he's doing this better than 376 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 1: me because I don't know what I'm doing. Breakdown how 377 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:05,920 Speaker 1: you mark up your scripts well? It's because I'm kind 378 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 1: of have kind of you know, special needs as an actor, 379 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 1: and I found many many years ago that physically underlining marking. 380 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:21,439 Speaker 1: I mean, it's really just really I've always done it. 381 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:23,199 Speaker 1: What we're doing plays. I mean, if you look at 382 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:28,679 Speaker 1: copies of plays I did, they're like falling apart. But physically, 383 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:34,399 Speaker 1: I'm literally saying, physically writing something down goes into my brain. 384 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,920 Speaker 1: I can't just look at I have to physically. There's 385 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 1: a connection between physically doing something and in my part 386 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,639 Speaker 1: of my brain that records that I've heard of actors 387 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 1: actually like writing out their entire Yeah, but that's all. 388 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 1: It really was your process and yeah, you guys really 389 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 1: weren't working enough. You're so naturally talented. I had to 390 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:03,679 Speaker 1: actually thank you the first night I saw it, and 391 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 1: being like, I guess I'll underline this line we're supposed 392 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 1: to get. I'm supposed to do this, so I'm going 393 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 1: to circle this and put a triangle around Phoenie. So 394 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 1: there isn't like a glossary. It's literally just any particular 395 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 1: marking you do around things like the diamond or the 396 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 1: square doesn't actually mean something to you specifically. It's just okay, 397 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 1: it's and it's just it's just the physical thing of 398 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 1: getting it into my head. It's like being an athlete. 399 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 1: I had to physically do the movement and write it down, 400 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 1: and that would something and also would help me get 401 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 1: very as an actor specific with everything that I was saying. 402 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: Otherwise I didn't know what was going on, right. I 403 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 1: guess one of the things we should probably do with 404 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:47,640 Speaker 1: our guests, at least a little bit, is find out 405 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 1: what why did you become an actor? Where you know? 406 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 1: Where did you? Where did you start? What made you 407 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 1: decide that you wanted to become an entertainer? Desperation? Really, man, 408 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:58,679 Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't know anything else. I mean, honestly, 409 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 1: I I think about this all the time. And then 410 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 1: because I see how other people choose where they're going 411 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:05,879 Speaker 1: in their life, and there's usually something and I couldn't 412 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:09,479 Speaker 1: really figure it out. Um. I mean, I went to college. 413 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 1: I had no, no desire to be an actor. I 414 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 1: didn't know what that was or anything. But then I 415 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:17,679 Speaker 1: look back and I look at high school and I 416 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 1: remember going to everyone all these high schools will go 417 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 1: to the local repertory company would come through and we'd 418 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:27,879 Speaker 1: see two or three plays. I do remember sitting in 419 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 1: the balcony going and this is weird. But then I'm 420 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 1: watching these actors are going it looks like fun. And 421 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 1: then they go out and they have lunch with their 422 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:38,920 Speaker 1: dinner with their friends. I mean, that looks like kind 423 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 1: of a good life. They yeah, they go all around 424 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 1: the country. And then I forgot about it, never really 425 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,880 Speaker 1: the thing. And then I literally went to the University 426 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 1: of Michigan totally lost. Just went in athletic kind of 427 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 1: scholarship and what was your sport. I was a diver, 428 00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:03,159 Speaker 1: you know, and like high diving, like all the yell 429 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,959 Speaker 1: then the world class of gymnasts. It was all men cheerleaders, 430 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,439 Speaker 1: all world class gymnasts and divers and you know, but 431 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 1: it was also put it on a show. You're going 432 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 1: to the stadium and there's a hundred thousand people in there. 433 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 1: Bring the energy up and you're doing the flips and 434 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 1: welcome to the circus. Let's go. But anyway, I didn't 435 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 1: quite know what I was doing, and I just wanted 436 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,199 Speaker 1: to get away from home. And I thought I had 437 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,399 Speaker 1: a loving home, but I had five brothers and sisters, 438 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:30,160 Speaker 1: so I really wanted to get away in New Orleans, right, yeah, 439 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 1: kind of grew up. I'm a navy brat. I grew 440 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 1: up all over actually, um, but yeah, and then I 441 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 1: someone said wanted. I was in speech class and someone 442 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 1: said can you do a scene? And go what's the scene? Go? Oh, 443 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 1: we do this thing? And I did it. And one 444 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 1: of the teachers is what happens in your life, you 445 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 1: have to pay attention. Someone said you're really good at this, 446 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 1: you should do this. I went, well, really, yeah, maybe 447 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 1: I should. And then I just had blinders on and 448 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 1: they went, oh, this is what I should do. And 449 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 1: then based had blonderds onto We're better or force and 450 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 1: that's what I focused. And so that was what like 451 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 1: the early seventies by this point in an Arbor, Michigan 452 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 1: and I and it was a great period because there 453 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 1: was a lot of political theater. We were creating theater. 454 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 1: We went to Europe and did mime lunchtime theater in Edinburgh. 455 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:25,640 Speaker 1: We traveled and you know, did The Tempest, Shakespeare's play 456 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 1: in London in the round wow for six people. One 457 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:35,119 Speaker 1: of the classic theater experience. I can tell you so 458 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,640 Speaker 1: many Well, when you say mime, are you like literally 459 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,679 Speaker 1: painting your face? We were called the ann Arbor Mime Troupe, 460 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 1: and it was this guy who had conned some money 461 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 1: from somewhere and they're like, you know ten or twelve 462 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,919 Speaker 1: ohists and Anna Arbor, we're all doing off and our 463 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:54,120 Speaker 1: shows and lunchtime theater and political shows. And he had 464 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 1: supposedly put together this tour of Europe and we got 465 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 1: that ed and we flew into London and got to Edinburgh. 466 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 1: We had this whole band at that Annabur Mime Troupe 467 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 1: and we got to Edinburgh and realized that none of 468 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 1: this was true. This is a guy hoping to get 469 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,159 Speaker 1: more money. So then we had to figure out what 470 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 1: how do we do this money? Thank you very much, 471 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 1: Yes they did. Unfortunately money was to send a mind. Well, 472 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,439 Speaker 1: it wasn't that we had to make money. It's like 473 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 1: we didn't know money for food. It was like Christine Lotty, 474 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 1: Oh my Christine. And then there's some there's some wonderful actors, 475 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 1: and we all knew each other and we'll said, we're 476 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:41,919 Speaker 1: stuck in at what are you doing like busting on 477 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 1: the street for money, like how did you Basically we 478 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,399 Speaker 1: did lunchtime theater, mime shows and then people come and 479 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 1: have lunch and on French bread, not from ime. You know, 480 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 1: it's really clunchy and everything. And then we were premiererying 481 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:58,120 Speaker 1: a new play at the Edinburgh Late Night Theater, which 482 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 1: is a very famous theater. And that's a whole another story. 483 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:06,399 Speaker 1: Uh and uh, and then just hustling until you know, 484 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,119 Speaker 1: we literally ran out of money and how to get 485 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,879 Speaker 1: people to send its money to get home. But were 486 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 1: you having fun though? I mean it must have been 487 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 1: the time. Of course it was a great time, or 488 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 1: up all night. But what's so crazy to me about 489 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 1: hearing these stories is how like for me showing up 490 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,919 Speaker 1: on the set of Boyan's World, how little life experience 491 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 1: like my comparison. So when I think of of our 492 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 1: time when boy I sort of imagine everybody showing up 493 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:45,159 Speaker 1: with the same blank slate and it's like, no, Rusty 494 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:49,359 Speaker 1: was like, how old were you when we weren't? Like right? 495 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,160 Speaker 1: So you were my age now. And so for me 496 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 1: to like wrap my head up because and we said 497 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 1: this before we started recording, Uh, when your kid, all 498 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 1: grown ups are the same age to you, you know, 499 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,919 Speaker 1: And so for me, there was no difference between you 500 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:08,440 Speaker 1: and Bill Daniels, For it was just an anybody else, 501 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 1: anybody old. It was not in school three. It was 502 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 1: basically the same age to me, and like, so it's 503 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 1: so mind boggling now to be able to put myself 504 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 1: in your shoes and say, like god, that must have 505 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 1: been a trip to see us little kids running around 506 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 1: getting paid as much as you working as it's so weird, 507 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,920 Speaker 1: like you know, but you had already lived this huge 508 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,679 Speaker 1: life and now I can appreciate it so much. I 509 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 1: really it's it's really cool. Wow. I was, you know, 510 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 1: as I said, it was like I've always been hopefully 511 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 1: open to the new thing, and it was like, okay, 512 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 1: I'll try this. I mean, I didn't know what a 513 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 1: play was. I mean literally I can remember the table 514 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 1: read that we did, and I actually got up during 515 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 1: the table read to get a cup of coffee. I've 516 00:28:56,600 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 1: never been in a table scom before. And I was 517 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 1: literally called out after the reading going people noticed you 518 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 1: got up and had a coffee, and I was really, 519 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 1: really I couldn't do that, no disrespect. It's just because 520 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 1: you know, you weren't in the scene. I didn't know 521 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 1: again that the whole sitcom experience was new to me. Um, 522 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 1: had you ever done even a guest starre on a 523 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 1: forecamera before never so this done one? Wow, it's true. 524 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 1: Really not done? Is your only sitcom experience all the 525 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 1: way around? Pretty good? Only one to do? I would 526 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 1: I would say, that's what's so ironic and funny and special, 527 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 1: and I'm grateful and I'm constantly amazed. Were the adults 528 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 1: friends offset like we Obviously the three of us here 529 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 1: have always been very close, but we were kind of 530 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 1: forced together too because we were in school together. Then 531 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 1: we were on set together, and then we did spend 532 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 1: time our social time ticket and yeah we did that 533 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 1: a lot. Did you guys do that? Yeah? We did. 534 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 1: We had you know, at the time, We're living in 535 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 1: the Hollywood Hills and we had the big house. You 536 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 1: guys were there when we finished. Yeah, but yeah, Bill 537 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 1: and Bonnie Bartlett, Bill Daniels would come over for dinner, 538 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 1: and Betsy and John and other friends. Then we'd have dinner, yeah, sometime, 539 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 1: and it was a great bunch of people, you know. Really, Yeah, 540 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 1: we had a special time. You know what I remember. 541 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 1: One of the things I remember about you is you 542 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 1: came up to me one day. Well, I have stories 543 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 1: all day long, but when first of all, we'll get 544 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 1: into this. The only bad car accident I've ever been 545 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 1: in my life was Rusty and tell the story. We 546 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 1: will get to that story. Okay, we gotta talking. That's 547 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 1: exactly what I was gonna say. Rusty comes up to 548 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 1: me one day on the set and he says, Hey, 549 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta a favor to ask. I go 550 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 1: what he goes, will you drive for me? I said, 551 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 1: what he goes, will you drive for me? Just come 552 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 1: come to my house. You're gonna drive my truck for me. 553 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 1: And I didn't honestly didn't even know what he meant 554 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 1: at the time. He goes, I'm gonna I'm going hang gliding. 555 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 1: I go, all right, So I come. I meet him 556 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 1: at the house. It's like, you know, four o'clock in 557 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 1: the morning or whatever it is. And we get there 558 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:06,959 Speaker 1: and I pick him up. We drive all the way out, 559 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 1: it's like an hour hour and a half away, and 560 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 1: then we drive he's driving the truck at this point, 561 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 1: and we drive up this like steep hill in this 562 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 1: on this mountain. What was a big truck? What kind 563 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 1: of car was? It? Was a biger. I ended up 564 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 1: I ended up having that was stolen from my actual 565 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 1: actual truck, which was not technically legal, the truck the 566 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:35,160 Speaker 1: way they had it rigged up, and there wasn't like 567 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 1: seat belts or anything. But anyway, so we drive up 568 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 1: this hill and Rusty pulls out his his hang lighter, 569 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 1: all the stuff, sets it all up. He's talking to 570 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 1: me the whole time. Then he looks at me, He's like, 571 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 1: all right, I'll meet you at the bottom, and just 572 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 1: runs and jumps off the hill and takes a kidding. 573 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 1: Now I'm at the top of this mountain in a truck. 574 00:31:54,720 --> 00:32:00,080 Speaker 1: I've never driven, having to drive down these trails set in. 575 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 1: You ever seen a hang glider much much less somebody 576 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 1: who literally just runs and jumps off the side of 577 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 1: a mountain and and and then goes I'll meet you 578 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:16,959 Speaker 1: at the bottom. Oh gosh, is an incredible athletic. Yes, 579 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 1: he's obviously stream sports guy, like you've done all of it. 580 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 1: And I remember, yeah, I remember you came in. You 581 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 1: had an accident one time with your hang glider. I 582 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 1: just remember him coming in all scraped up. Do you 583 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 1: remember this at all? Usually I don't have an accident 584 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 1: flying probably get you, But I don't even remember. Maybe no, no, 585 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,720 Speaker 1: I did. I had a really bad bike accident years ago. 586 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 1: And that's really I love riding bikes. I'm just not 587 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:53,480 Speaker 1: very good at it. But yeah no, usually most of 588 00:32:53,560 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 1: us flying usually hurt ourselves. So what happened with the 589 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 1: car accident? So Rusty is trying to teach I just 590 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 1: bought my first cool car. And what I mean just 591 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 1: bought it. There were two hundred miles. It was new. 592 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 1: It was a brand new BMW M three. I remember it, 593 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 1: so I think i'd had it like a week. By 594 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 1: the way, how did BMW not sponsor BMW not driving BMW? Okay, So, 595 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 1: so I want to set this up though, how old 596 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 1: are you? We were at k T l A at 597 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 1: this point, so it was yeah, seen three or four 598 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 1: and three or four eight or nineteen No, no, no, sorry, 599 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 1: we went Disney Disney. So so Rusty was trying to 600 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 1: in vain, God love them teach me how to play racquetball, 601 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 1: and teaching me how to play racquetballs like teaching a 602 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 1: potato to whistle. So um he literally he's like, well, 603 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 1: come on, we're gonna go. We're gonna try this again. 604 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 1: And what you would always do just very quickly racketball wise, 605 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:09,400 Speaker 1: was you just hit the same shot every time, and 606 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 1: I get so frustrated because you're like, well, I'm gonna 607 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 1: keep hitting it if you've got to learn how to hit. 608 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 1: He'd hit it high off the wall. It would go 609 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,799 Speaker 1: over my head, dieds wear. That was us playing racketball. Um. 610 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 1: So one day he's like, we're going to go at lunch. 611 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:21,759 Speaker 1: And if you remember, you come out the kt L 612 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 1: at the gate, you took a left, you went up 613 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 1: to the main street, and then you took a left 614 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 1: or right that was like Hollywood Boulevard or some some 615 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 1: major road up there. So Rusty grabs, He's like, let's go. 616 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,960 Speaker 1: He's in the passenger seat. I'm driving. We get up 617 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:39,920 Speaker 1: to the lights and I'm like halfway in the intersection 618 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 1: and the and the light goes red, so I, by 619 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 1: law have to go like I'm I'm in the thing. 620 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:49,360 Speaker 1: So there's three lanes coming from our right. The first 621 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 1: lane stops, the second lane stops, and we can't see 622 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,440 Speaker 1: the third lane. So I pull out and I remember 623 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 1: Rusty saying like, um, just just turn just turn left, 624 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,319 Speaker 1: just turn left. When we had to go straight, like no, 625 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,400 Speaker 1: be fine, And I went straight and the car in 626 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,719 Speaker 1: the third lane did not see us and slammed into 627 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,759 Speaker 1: Rusty side. And I mean like it was. It was 628 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:09,799 Speaker 1: a good hit. It was. It was a d It 629 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 1: put a ripple through my entire car. The car was 630 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,440 Speaker 1: not total, but it was bad. But the thing I 631 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 1: remember most is Rusty looking at me first and going 632 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:18,439 Speaker 1: are you okay? And I went, I'm fine, I'm fine, 633 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 1: and then getting out of the car, going our fault, 634 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:25,279 Speaker 1: our fault. Wait a minute, it might not have been. 635 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,319 Speaker 1: It might not have been. Let's let's book my parents 636 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,840 Speaker 1: and lawyers and like, let's all calm down for a second. 637 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:37,799 Speaker 1: And what happened? What I meant to say, But it was, 638 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,200 Speaker 1: it was. It was the only knocking wood as I 639 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:43,360 Speaker 1: say this, knocking costco plastic as I say this, um, 640 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,359 Speaker 1: it was the only like real car accident I've ever 641 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,319 Speaker 1: been in. And I look like it's it's my TV, 642 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:51,799 Speaker 1: Dad and I and the car. They I again, I was, 643 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:53,319 Speaker 1: I had two hundred miles on it. They had to 644 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,840 Speaker 1: cut the entire car in half and and like meld 645 00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:58,959 Speaker 1: on a whole another side. I didn't see it again 646 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,400 Speaker 1: for like another six months. Were you physically okay, Rusty? 647 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 1: Did you have any But I remember the the I 648 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,799 Speaker 1: can still see, like you can see in your head, 649 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 1: the four of us walking uh while dressed. I can 650 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:14,360 Speaker 1: still see looking over at you as the accident happened. 651 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 1: The glass smashes in all over you and you rock 652 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:20,720 Speaker 1: all the I mean we were probably hit at doing 653 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 1: you know, they were probably doing which is which is 654 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 1: a good size smack in the car um so we were. 655 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 1: It was like a full on accident. And then I 656 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,319 Speaker 1: remember going back to the set and Steve hay for 657 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,880 Speaker 1: going you guys are late, and it was like our 658 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,120 Speaker 1: first day. Who's the nicest guy in the world. And 659 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:39,360 Speaker 1: we were like, we were just in the carton and 660 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:41,520 Speaker 1: then he was like, oh, wait, is everybody okay? But 661 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:43,879 Speaker 1: but it was I remember going out to my car 662 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,440 Speaker 1: later that day because you'd walk where it was parked. 663 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:48,960 Speaker 1: You'd walk to the car and the side you saw 664 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,120 Speaker 1: was perfect and pristine and gorgeous in the coolest car 665 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:53,800 Speaker 1: in the world, and you'd walk to the other side 666 00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:57,000 Speaker 1: and it was just destroyed. So yeah, those are a 667 00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:00,680 Speaker 1: couple of rusty, rusty stories. That is really an honor 668 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 1: to be there. Her fault. What was Will like as 669 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:09,880 Speaker 1: a TV soun What was your relationship like on the show, like, 670 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 1: how would you guys describe the Alan Eric father son relationship. 671 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:16,640 Speaker 1: I think we had a really good We had the 672 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:22,279 Speaker 1: same problem that right or we have, especially at more 673 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:26,359 Speaker 1: relaxes getting through this scene. I have to say, as 674 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:30,760 Speaker 1: an actor, the hardest days I've ever had our days 675 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 1: with like Will Um, you know, I've had with other actors, 676 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:41,880 Speaker 1: but mainly Will because he really you know, it was 677 00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:45,359 Speaker 1: new to it all. But no, actually the hardest day 678 00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,120 Speaker 1: they've had on the set. And I had this happen 679 00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:50,440 Speaker 1: on Wise Guy many years later with grown up actors. 680 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:54,160 Speaker 1: Four of us got the giggles so bad that we 681 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,560 Speaker 1: would have to shoot a scene. We're sitting around a table, 682 00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,279 Speaker 1: and as soon as the scene was cut, we'd have 683 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,120 Speaker 1: to all run a way and hide out in a 684 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 1: bedroom so we couldn't look at each other. And it's 685 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,040 Speaker 1: the longest day I ever had. I couldn't hang out 686 00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,960 Speaker 1: with my actor, right, But we had a lot of 687 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:11,279 Speaker 1: those we had time. There was one episode where you 688 00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:14,400 Speaker 1: guys are in a museum or something and Rusty, you 689 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,640 Speaker 1: guys could not keep it together, but Rusty couldn't remember 690 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,239 Speaker 1: his lines, and so I remember, you just like went 691 00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:26,200 Speaker 1: and we lost it. But you kept a straight face. 692 00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:29,360 Speaker 1: You're just like you just like spoke gibberish. And I 693 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:32,879 Speaker 1: do remember Will could you were like crying, laughing, You're 694 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:36,520 Speaker 1: like what are you do? And I think it was 695 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,000 Speaker 1: in front of the audience too. I just remember, oh, 696 00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,879 Speaker 1: we had fun, and that made me feel good because 697 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,879 Speaker 1: at the beginning, uh, you know, I was you guys, 698 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,399 Speaker 1: have to tell me what you thought, because I was like, 699 00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:51,120 Speaker 1: I was wouldn't and I didn't know how to act 700 00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,719 Speaker 1: right away. And I thought at the beginning that you 701 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:55,919 Speaker 1: were kind of like because it took us a little 702 00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:57,840 Speaker 1: while to bond. And I thought at the beginning, you 703 00:38:57,880 --> 00:38:59,359 Speaker 1: were kind of like this guy doesn't know what he's 704 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,520 Speaker 1: doing yet. He's not this is he's kind of saying 705 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:04,200 Speaker 1: the words that are written on the page. And then 706 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:07,239 Speaker 1: by like season two, I thought you and I really 707 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:09,239 Speaker 1: kind of started to get along and bond a lot better, 708 00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:10,960 Speaker 1: which I thought was was a lot of fun. But 709 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:14,480 Speaker 1: I remember Rusty in front of the audience. It's the 710 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:16,680 Speaker 1: first episode we've ever done. Now we're we've talked about 711 00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,959 Speaker 1: how we have never we we shot things out of order. 712 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,520 Speaker 1: So the first episode that I actually shot, which was 713 00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:24,640 Speaker 1: the first episode you actually shot because we were both 714 00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:29,279 Speaker 1: not in the pilot. Was the episode where we Eric 715 00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:31,560 Speaker 1: goes to a concert with his first girlfriend and the 716 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:34,480 Speaker 1: parents are at the same concert having more fun than 717 00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:36,719 Speaker 1: Eric and Nicki Cox who was who was the girl? 718 00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:41,319 Speaker 1: That was the first episode we actually shot, and so um, 719 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:44,160 Speaker 1: I think it was maybe an episode later. Maybe it 720 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:47,680 Speaker 1: wasn't that episode. It's an episode later Rusty, there's I 721 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:51,120 Speaker 1: want Eric wants to get like a corvette or something 722 00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,640 Speaker 1: like that. He wants, Dad, you gotta buy me a corvette. 723 00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,200 Speaker 1: It's a scene between Corey and Eric and and the 724 00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 1: dad and Alan and they're sitting there and Rusty had something. 725 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:01,920 Speaker 1: We're in front of the audience and Rusty had something 726 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:05,960 Speaker 1: lodged in his throat and one of the lines is 727 00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:08,000 Speaker 1: you want a corvette, I'm gonna buy you a Schwin 728 00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:11,600 Speaker 1: so to try to clear his throat but not lose 729 00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:14,360 Speaker 1: the scene where Rusty was going you want a corvette, 730 00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:25,440 Speaker 1: I'll buy you yeah, so you can't lose it like together, 731 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,560 Speaker 1: Ben and I just losing it like I couldn't get 732 00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:39,080 Speaker 1: That's classic Rusty. Rusty is were these actors you get 733 00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:42,880 Speaker 1: through it no matter what, and yet wholehearted. You always 734 00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,200 Speaker 1: stay present. You always go for it, and I just 735 00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:51,719 Speaker 1: remember that that being results. You'd also talk about you 736 00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,319 Speaker 1: in later episodes because you were at the time the 737 00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:57,040 Speaker 1: only cast member who went on to direct the director. 738 00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:02,280 Speaker 1: You directed several episodes that you're first directing experience on Boy. 739 00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:07,640 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, and I, um, yeah, I hadn't really 740 00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:09,720 Speaker 1: thought about it. I mean we were talking about earlier 741 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,359 Speaker 1: actors and directing and it hadn't really occurred to me. 742 00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:15,040 Speaker 1: But you know, you guys were so good. I mean 743 00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:18,120 Speaker 1: it was like, you know, let me try, you know, 744 00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,759 Speaker 1: it was it was fun and it was like, you know, 745 00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:22,680 Speaker 1: I hope we had a good time. I mean I 746 00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:26,600 Speaker 1: didn't really know anything about directing really, but what season 747 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:29,160 Speaker 1: was that? Was that like fifth seas four fourth or 748 00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,000 Speaker 1: fig and so how did that come about? You just 749 00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,600 Speaker 1: asked Michael, like, Hey, can I direct one this season? Well? 750 00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:35,480 Speaker 1: I said, you know, yeah, I think, I said, oh, 751 00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:37,120 Speaker 1: I like to you know, I just went to him 752 00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:39,120 Speaker 1: and said, yeah, Michael, do you think I mean, I 753 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,120 Speaker 1: think I like to direct one of days, like to 754 00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:43,920 Speaker 1: see and he said sure, you know, and then I 755 00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:47,000 Speaker 1: just followed David Trainer around and whoever else came here, 756 00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:50,719 Speaker 1: and uh, I just learned it and it was so 757 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,920 Speaker 1: much fun. And you guys are so easy. I mean, well, 758 00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,080 Speaker 1: you used to direct. I remember you used to direct. 759 00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:00,520 Speaker 1: During the scene he was so he would like, we'd 760 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:02,160 Speaker 1: all be on the couch and we'd be in the 761 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,239 Speaker 1: middle of the scene. It'd be like, well, I don't know, Dad, 762 00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:05,279 Speaker 1: what do you think you should do? And be like, 763 00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:08,160 Speaker 1: I don't know, Eric, let's figure it out now, turn 764 00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:14,879 Speaker 1: the audience is there, We're in the middle of the scene, 765 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,800 Speaker 1: and then you start laughing like, oh yeah, that's right. Sorry. 766 00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:21,480 Speaker 1: You guys are so easy to work with. It was 767 00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:28,840 Speaker 1: really fun. Your parents another Do you have a favorite episode? 768 00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,360 Speaker 1: Is there one that sticks out in your mind as like, God, 769 00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:36,480 Speaker 1: you know, I just remember pieces of a million of them, 770 00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:39,360 Speaker 1: and you know, I mean I remember, you know, jumping 771 00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:43,480 Speaker 1: the parachute one where we're jumping out of the the plane. 772 00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,960 Speaker 1: I remember the one with the bear and the honey 773 00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:51,839 Speaker 1: and the one arm bear trainer, and I remember, I mean, 774 00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:55,560 Speaker 1: I remember moments you know that you guys did that 775 00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:58,440 Speaker 1: were just you know, I mean I had to watch 776 00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:02,720 Speaker 1: you know that we're just you know, you and Ben's relationship, 777 00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:04,759 Speaker 1: and yeah, I know, I didn't get to work with 778 00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:06,600 Speaker 1: you nearly as much as I as I wish I did. 779 00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:08,759 Speaker 1: But you know, again the multiple Boy Meets worlds, I 780 00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:12,319 Speaker 1: was mostly in the school setting. Um, and then of 781 00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:14,719 Speaker 1: course as the show went on, I we would do 782 00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,600 Speaker 1: more things. We had the Matthews family Christmas that topango was. 783 00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:19,000 Speaker 1: You know. I was in the in the house a 784 00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:22,200 Speaker 1: little bit obviously. Then the episode where you guys think 785 00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:24,080 Speaker 1: we ran off and got married and then there's a 786 00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:27,160 Speaker 1: big thing in the kitchen. That long walk to Philly. 787 00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:28,719 Speaker 1: Is that the one that's the one where you just 788 00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:30,399 Speaker 1: you show up again. That's the one where I show 789 00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:34,680 Speaker 1: up again after I Pittsburgh the gas. Yeah, but I 790 00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:37,920 Speaker 1: didn't get to work with you a ton obviously. Then 791 00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:39,719 Speaker 1: I got to work with you. For people who don't know, 792 00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:43,040 Speaker 1: Rusty was the dialogue coach on Girl Meets World, and 793 00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,080 Speaker 1: so we got to I got to work with Rusty 794 00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:48,200 Speaker 1: every single day. There was so much fun watching you 795 00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:51,680 Speaker 1: guys and watching the girls. Yeah. And see, that was 796 00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,000 Speaker 1: such a great experience for me because, like writer, like 797 00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,680 Speaker 1: you're talking about being able to now put yourself in 798 00:43:56,840 --> 00:44:00,719 Speaker 1: his shoes on Boy Meets World, I was then in 799 00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:02,680 Speaker 1: those shoes the same way you were in those shoes 800 00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:04,879 Speaker 1: on Girl Meats World. But I but we were there 801 00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:06,840 Speaker 1: with Rusty who had been It was like, so the 802 00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:09,080 Speaker 1: Girl you know, the girls looked at us as all 803 00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:16,759 Speaker 1: the same age. I didn't understand that us. So how 804 00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:21,160 Speaker 1: did you guys deal with seeing working with kids? It 805 00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:24,200 Speaker 1: was great, it was amazing, It was they were great kids. 806 00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:27,080 Speaker 1: But it was different. It was very different to be 807 00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:30,879 Speaker 1: able to see what the kids on Girl were going through. Yeah, 808 00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,000 Speaker 1: you know, it was the first you know, we talked 809 00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:36,239 Speaker 1: about this podcast as a reflection on our experience on Boy. 810 00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:39,719 Speaker 1: I feel like my first real reflection back was Girl 811 00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:41,920 Speaker 1: was working on Girls World, and I was able to 812 00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:46,760 Speaker 1: see what we went through with completely different eyes, clearer eyes, 813 00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,960 Speaker 1: and and really, I you know, I I ended up 814 00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:51,920 Speaker 1: directing a lot of episodes, and I think he directed 815 00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,960 Speaker 1: more than anybody. Is that true? So UM and I 816 00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:59,919 Speaker 1: ended up loving I loved it mostly because I want 817 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,520 Speaker 1: it to be for those kids what a lot of 818 00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:04,560 Speaker 1: directors had been for me. You know what a lot 819 00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:08,840 Speaker 1: of the group and I, you know, Jeff McCracken, David Trainer, 820 00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:14,160 Speaker 1: UM and these people really UM protected us, supported us, 821 00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:17,319 Speaker 1: encouraged us as actors, and you know, like there were 822 00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,000 Speaker 1: times on Girl Meates World that I just was like 823 00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:21,840 Speaker 1: we we we were ahead, you know, the day was 824 00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:23,560 Speaker 1: made and we were fine. We had a couple of 825 00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:26,200 Speaker 1: hours and I'd be like, let's let's just sit around 826 00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:28,239 Speaker 1: and talk about acting. Yeah, and we would do like 827 00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:29,880 Speaker 1: I have conversations with the kids and then we do 828 00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,520 Speaker 1: running charades. I was like, you, guys, like make sure 829 00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:34,279 Speaker 1: that you think about what like the fun of what 830 00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:37,480 Speaker 1: we're doing. This isn't just delivering the lines. It isn't 831 00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:40,280 Speaker 1: just like showing up and hitting your marks and pleasing 832 00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:42,200 Speaker 1: the grown ups, but actually, this is an opportunity for 833 00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:44,719 Speaker 1: you to explore acting. And like that was I cared 834 00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:47,040 Speaker 1: so much about that. I hope some of that stayed 835 00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:49,680 Speaker 1: with them, because I haven't seen the girls or anybody since. 836 00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:52,600 Speaker 1: That was a great gift that you were able to 837 00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:57,160 Speaker 1: give to them. I mean having that perspective. And it's 838 00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:59,560 Speaker 1: because I remember working with the grown ups that that 839 00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:02,760 Speaker 1: that gave us, you know, the feedback that we needed 840 00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:04,759 Speaker 1: as kids to be like, oh, this is a real 841 00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,359 Speaker 1: job and this is this is your show. You know. 842 00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:10,600 Speaker 1: Also we hopefully hopefully we helped you be kids too, 843 00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:12,920 Speaker 1: because I would be the first one I hope. I 844 00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:17,680 Speaker 1: was the first one. Someone was not cool. I no, no, no, no, yeah, 845 00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:21,080 Speaker 1: let's writer, let Daniel, let you will do what they 846 00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:23,160 Speaker 1: need to do. And you did that on Girl as well. 847 00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,719 Speaker 1: And I mean then I remember because I got then 848 00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:28,680 Speaker 1: got to direct my very first episode on Girl Meets World, 849 00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:31,560 Speaker 1: And I remember sitting around the table with you and 850 00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,040 Speaker 1: other people who were so instrumental in helping me learn 851 00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:36,959 Speaker 1: to direct, and me just asking Rusty Okay, I get 852 00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:40,759 Speaker 1: I get the blocking, what is a shot list? How 853 00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:43,840 Speaker 1: do you do that? What? And talk about marking up scripts. 854 00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:45,719 Speaker 1: I mean because Rusty as the dialogue coach, he had 855 00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:49,000 Speaker 1: things marked for you know, every different person. And I 856 00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,279 Speaker 1: mean Rusty was just he was so helpful. He's like, look, 857 00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:53,399 Speaker 1: everybody does it a different way. There's not a right 858 00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:55,160 Speaker 1: way or a wrong way to do it. Here's how 859 00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:56,759 Speaker 1: I do it. And you can do whatever you want 860 00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:58,799 Speaker 1: to do, but here's how I do it. Um. You 861 00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:01,960 Speaker 1: were just so you were so wonderful and helpful. You've 862 00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:04,600 Speaker 1: always have been. But you're such a um. The same 863 00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:07,880 Speaker 1: way you were that like tent pole, that like that 864 00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:12,680 Speaker 1: comforting uh dad on on Boy, you carried that same 865 00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:15,160 Speaker 1: energy as just a human being onto the set of 866 00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:17,680 Speaker 1: Girl Meets World, and all of us there who were 867 00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:22,200 Speaker 1: in kind of chaotic life experienced times like boy Girl 868 00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:23,920 Speaker 1: Meats World was a bit of a chaotic time for 869 00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:26,960 Speaker 1: many reasons. But you were a person all of us 870 00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:31,960 Speaker 1: flocked to for advice, stability, um just comfort. Remember my 871 00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:36,400 Speaker 1: first Taming night, I was so scared directing because so 872 00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:38,120 Speaker 1: intense you're directing, you have to keep track of four 873 00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:40,800 Speaker 1: cameras all the performance, and there's an audience watching you, 874 00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:43,000 Speaker 1: and of course for me it was also like the 875 00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:45,400 Speaker 1: audience knew who I was. I was so scared, and 876 00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:47,279 Speaker 1: you just looked at me and you were like, it's 877 00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:49,239 Speaker 1: an acid trip, man, It's got to end at some 878 00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:57,919 Speaker 1: Remember I leaned on you so heavy that first time, 879 00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:01,000 Speaker 1: and I was so scared, and I always look over you. 880 00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,359 Speaker 1: Would you would You knew it from every angle because 881 00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:06,000 Speaker 1: you had been the acting, you had been the directing, 882 00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:08,359 Speaker 1: and here you were dialogue coach, which is like being 883 00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:10,840 Speaker 1: a right hand person for me. It was so helpful. 884 00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:12,719 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I remember feeling so much better know 885 00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,279 Speaker 1: when you were there. Well, we all guys all did 886 00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:17,680 Speaker 1: a great job. Thank you. Well, we all know you 887 00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:21,719 Speaker 1: as an iconic TV dad, but one person, Georgia. I 888 00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:25,719 Speaker 1: asked what her experience was like having you as her 889 00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,239 Speaker 1: real dad, And I'd like to play that for you. 890 00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,080 Speaker 1: What was it like having Rusty as a dad in 891 00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:34,879 Speaker 1: real life? A little edgier than Alan Matthews with his 892 00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:39,960 Speaker 1: motorcycle and Rockert pants and choose. And he's a great 893 00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:43,319 Speaker 1: dad though. When I was little, you know, he would 894 00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:47,839 Speaker 1: drive me to competitions all over the country. Even um 895 00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:50,440 Speaker 1: now he'll come to Florida and come with me to 896 00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:54,000 Speaker 1: some of the competitions. He's truly one of my absolute 897 00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:56,080 Speaker 1: best friends. You could say I'm a bit of a 898 00:48:56,160 --> 00:49:02,000 Speaker 1: daddy's girl. Yeah, he's just he's incredible. Sweet. I'll tell 899 00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:05,520 Speaker 1: you funny story about Georgia. Clara and I my wife, 900 00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:09,320 Speaker 1: George's mom. We were with Georgia. We're coming from having 901 00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:15,440 Speaker 1: dinner somewhere and she's about literally three or four years old, 902 00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:18,759 Speaker 1: and uh, I said to her, oh, and we're doing 903 00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:22,080 Speaker 1: the Christmas Show. When I said, oh, Georgia, how would 904 00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:24,000 Speaker 1: you like to be in the Christmas Show? I have 905 00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:26,759 Speaker 1: something to tell you about being a you know, boy 906 00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:28,960 Speaker 1: meets world. Maybe it's something you can do. And she 907 00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:33,359 Speaker 1: looks really at us, both, and she goes, oh am, 908 00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:42,799 Speaker 1: I going to direct literally said that. Clara and I laugh. So, 909 00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:47,799 Speaker 1: but that's kind of Georgia. You always used to do 910 00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:49,480 Speaker 1: that though you always used to also try to make 911 00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:51,840 Speaker 1: us laugh. I have one more very funny, rusty story 912 00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:53,719 Speaker 1: that everyone always asked for behind the scenes stories, and 913 00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:55,520 Speaker 1: I never remember them until the people are standing in 914 00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:58,799 Speaker 1: front of us. So we're in the set for the 915 00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:03,240 Speaker 1: now you're ninth job as Dad, which is the uh 916 00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:06,359 Speaker 1: outward Store, the outback store, whatever you want to call it. Yeah, 917 00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:10,600 Speaker 1: you know, And there is on the desk there is 918 00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:19,320 Speaker 1: a giant tub of beef jerky. Ben has a problem 919 00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:21,560 Speaker 1: with germs sometimes, as a lot of us do, and 920 00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:24,399 Speaker 1: would refuse to eat any of the beef jerkey. And 921 00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:26,799 Speaker 1: and you would reach in and grab it and take 922 00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:28,799 Speaker 1: a bite and eat your beef jerkey. And Ben's like, well, 923 00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:30,640 Speaker 1: look what you're doing. Your hands are in there the 924 00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:32,680 Speaker 1: whole time. How is anybody's supposed to be. And you 925 00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:35,560 Speaker 1: picked up a piece of beef jerky, you bit it 926 00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:38,120 Speaker 1: in half, and you threw it back into the full 927 00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:41,680 Speaker 1: jerkey and then you shut it and Ben went, that 928 00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:44,120 Speaker 1: doesn't freak me out. He opened it up he reached 929 00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:46,000 Speaker 1: in to grab his beef jerky, took a bite, and 930 00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:50,240 Speaker 1: it was the exact one. Have been in half anyway 931 00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:56,239 Speaker 1: across the chances don't. It's so it's etched in my mind. 932 00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:58,799 Speaker 1: You and I then lost it because I mean, the 933 00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:01,680 Speaker 1: chances of that happened. But it was Ben biting right 934 00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:03,839 Speaker 1: into the beef jerky you had just eaten and then 935 00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:07,000 Speaker 1: throwing it across the room. In my head, but I 936 00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:09,760 Speaker 1: don't know. I grew up with five brothers, and sisters 937 00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:13,760 Speaker 1: were not an issue. Other people was not an issue. 938 00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:23,080 Speaker 1: Clara still yells big put get your hand off my plate. Yeah. Well, well, 939 00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:26,479 Speaker 1: I'd love to talk about the episode, can we? Yeah, 940 00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:28,760 Speaker 1: but we should do another episode. Let's do another episode. 941 00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:31,040 Speaker 1: Join join us for the next episode. That's right where 942 00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:33,040 Speaker 1: we're going to break down episode number one oh two. 943 00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:36,160 Speaker 1: It's called on the Fence. I'm so glad this is 944 00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:37,839 Speaker 1: the week that we asked you to come on because 945 00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:40,880 Speaker 1: this was an Alan Matthews heavy episode. Yeah, it was 946 00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:43,560 Speaker 1: fun to watch it. I hadn't seen it in a while. Alright, great, 947 00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:46,200 Speaker 1: so we're gonna do that in the next episode. Uh, guys, 948 00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:51,239 Speaker 1: we have an email address. Email us your thoughts, your questions, feedback, 949 00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:53,000 Speaker 1: tell us what you think about the show thus far, 950 00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:56,040 Speaker 1: what you'd like to hear more of. We are pod 951 00:51:56,239 --> 00:52:03,640 Speaker 1: meets Wait, what meets World Show at gmail dot com 952 00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:06,000 Speaker 1: and also check out our Instagram. 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