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Speaker 1: R B Money. We all take valut. We are the

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Speaker 1: authority on all things R and B ladies and generally

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Speaker 1: what's going on. My name is Tank, I'm Jin and

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Speaker 1: this is the R and B Money Podcast, the authority, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: right on all things R and B. Yeah. Oh my

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Speaker 1: god in the building Gumbo himself. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: go ahead and mix that thing out. Oh you all

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Speaker 1: the ingredients? Oh man, And that's all I'm gonna say.

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Speaker 1: Gordon Lady to be my god. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: You're so cold, like like cold cold, Like there's levels

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Speaker 1: to cold, right, Cold is like Donny Hathaway. Cold is

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Speaker 1: like Stevie wonder Man. Cold is like Eric Dawkins. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're like all of that. We've into one human being

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Speaker 1: with a beanie on. It's sick. Yeah, man, coming from

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Speaker 1: from you, who is you know code? I mean you

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Speaker 1: know you know because because I mean a cloth of it,

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Speaker 1: and so now I appreciate it, man, I appreciate it

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Speaker 1: just being in the same room. You know, I don't

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Speaker 1: know if I were if I told you, I feel

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Speaker 1: like I told you when you when I was doing

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Speaker 1: the show during the pandemic, when I was doing uh,

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Speaker 1: the game show whatever. But I met you at a

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Speaker 1: super pivotal time in my life. When I my freshman

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Speaker 1: year of more House, I moved to Atlanta. My boy

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Speaker 1: Chuck took me the noontime. Took me the noontime. Jake

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Speaker 1: q is his brother, that's his older brother. John Ta

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Speaker 1: was there. Jaz Fade was there, you know. B Cox

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Speaker 1: was there. Donnie Scans, who became my man, was there.

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Speaker 1: And I walked in there and said, since she shakes

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Speaker 1: for dollars, I don't like the holler. I was like, wait,

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Speaker 1: what I mean that night and it feels like one night.

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Speaker 1: I don't I can't remember if it was one night

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Speaker 1: or a time frame, but me walking through noontime literally changed.

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Speaker 1: It changed my life because I was coming from New Orleans,

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Speaker 1: no music industry. And I was saying, these dudes, every

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Speaker 1: room when you went in, you were you heard music

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Speaker 1: and were inspired and you were the first artist. I

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Speaker 1: walked in and and I was like, oh my god,

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Speaker 1: what are we doing? This is how this go? You

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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying that you might have had maybe

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Speaker 1: I deserve it that you might in that era. I

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Speaker 1: don't know but it was that vibe. It was no,

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Speaker 1: you weren't out, No, no, you know I'm saying I

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Speaker 1: might have heard that record, you know early on. I

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Speaker 1: did it in nineties when I did a record like

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Speaker 1: eight or something like that. So I got before I

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Speaker 1: got to before I got this in bro. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I wrote that record, Shakespeare Dollars. It is a noontime classic. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: time changing my life by the way. We shared that

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Speaker 1: right special and Scans became my man became yeah, so cool. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, like that became Scans. Guy,

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Speaker 1: that's my that's one of my sins. Sate listen, bro. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that Shakespeare Dollars record came about from me going to

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Speaker 1: Atlanta strip clubs right for the first time with with

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Speaker 1: all of sixty dollars because it hadn't started raining then,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, So so so working those ones,

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Speaker 1: it was had none of that, not sixties, This was

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Speaker 1: this then it was it was so my thirty ones,

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Speaker 1: like it looked like something you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: And I saw it in goose Bumps that I was

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Speaker 1: in love with Wow, like I like you, and I'll

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Speaker 1: be back tomorrow. I'll be back tomorrow with another thirty,

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Speaker 1: with another hot when it's under the hunt, it is hot,

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Speaker 1: it's hot, and I'm hoping, I'm hoping that our conversation

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Speaker 1: about her goals and aspirations and my goals and aspirations

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Speaker 1: can lead to us somehow being together. And if somehow

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Speaker 1: her goals and aspirations still, you know, the designs are

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Speaker 1: still for her to be in this place. That's fine, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's fine, Free Nation. I'll drop you off, I'll pick

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Speaker 1: from that. Since you started with that damn record the place, man, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that sounds like true love, man, sound like true love.

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Speaker 1: I used to fall in love in the strip had

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Speaker 1: in the Strip Club, that is, And I didn't. I

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Speaker 1: some ogre savage type. No, they was dancing and throwing

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Speaker 1: And she gave that can't be the love of my life.

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Speaker 1: It can't be. Can't be, that can't be, not my

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Speaker 1: my lady, not mus not musing, can keep He told me,

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Speaker 1: what is a really sentiment? Right? The girls come over

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Speaker 1: and asked me about it. There it was like, no,

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Speaker 1: I'm here with somebody I'm taking. You were taking taking,

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Speaker 1: when we that's when I met you. That's when I

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Speaker 1: it out. What a time in Atlanta though at that

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Speaker 1: tall Man, it was special, bro, special, it was special.

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Speaker 1: I just fell right in it and shout out to Noontime.

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Speaker 1: I gotta give I gotta give Noontime a special shout

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Speaker 1: out man, because just in terms of how they were

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Speaker 1: up there, um sharing and collaborating, true, you know what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like true collaborations like this was the first

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Speaker 1: was like, Oh, you gotta get this new new stick.

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Speaker 1: I I was crazy. Everybody passing the disc around this

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Speaker 1: that right there. I had them all, Yeah, the stick

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Speaker 1: like either you wanted to be in jazz in New

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Speaker 1: I just didn't really you know, find a place there

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Speaker 1: back to the beginning, because because they had to, somebody

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Speaker 1: he can do it, and he got it. When was

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Speaker 1: like that? Um? Well, I'm preacher's kid, you know, and

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Speaker 1: not just a preacher's kid, but I was. My father

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Speaker 1: you know. My dad said he prayed over my hands.

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Speaker 1: So eight years old is when I got when I

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Speaker 1: Fourteen is when I remember saying, Okay, I'm like I

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Speaker 1: Remember I would pay my own money. Literally, I didn't

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Speaker 1: have any concept of placing songs. I didn't know how

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Speaker 1: doing sneaky Um, yeah, I was. I didn't know where

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. That had no idea with that confidence.

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Speaker 1: recorded that on It Feels Like Rain album. So I

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Speaker 1: No I didn't know. I didn't know at all. I

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Speaker 1: was like, they want to do my song? J Mark

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Speaker 1: Pajam was producing it. P D A and J Mass

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Speaker 1: they produced it. And I always tell this story. It

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Speaker 1: is funny because my s Y A D five would

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Speaker 1: I'm a producer, like they did my mistake over you

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Speaker 1: was like, I was like, and so to your point,

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Speaker 1: gospel music was the lowest hanging fruit for me. That's

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Speaker 1: what it was around me. Like I said, my dad

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Speaker 1: was making records all that. So I was writing for

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Speaker 1: where my break was. It's like it was different, it

425
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 1: was different times. I feel like I had so many

426
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:17,719
Speaker 1: of these and then coasts and then these and then coast. Um. Uh.

427
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 1: But when I got off of bay Do, I started

428
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 1: writing my solo album. But then I wrote a big

429
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:27,200
Speaker 1: gospel song right after that called let Go Let God

430
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 1: for Dwayne Woods and it was like number one for

431
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:35,159
Speaker 1: like seventy two weeks, seventy two weeks, like and in

432
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 1: the top ten for seven two weeks. And um, that

433
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,560
Speaker 1: song really changed my first award. I wanted like a

434
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,640
Speaker 1: stellar I think I was twenty something, you know. Um,

435
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,879
Speaker 1: and that was a break. Um. But then I went

436
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 1: to Jermaine Dupree. After I got off the road with Bad,

437
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 1: I went to j D School basically, and this was

438
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:58,120
Speaker 1: after Bi Cox said him and Bi Cox head they

439
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:02,399
Speaker 1: went crazy and the stream yeah yeah, mass like the

440
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 1: biggest albums about you know, Confessions and you know, Be

441
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 1: Without You. It's like you know, um and um uh,

442
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:16,359
Speaker 1: I well be Cox was busy, you know what I'm saying,

443
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,880
Speaker 1: and j D needed another keyboard player. So I came

444
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 1: in as that guy and wrote for Monica and Jaggeted

445
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:25,359
Speaker 1: and you know, even John Tay was working on the

446
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,879
Speaker 1: album at that time. And for me, so it was

447
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:29,879
Speaker 1: it was it was breaks and that, you know what

448
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Um, But for me, and I think this

449
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,400
Speaker 1: is you know why I'm happy I'm talking to y'all

450
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:41,680
Speaker 1: because my journey has been so non traditional. You know

451
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:45,440
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It's like, people wonder how I'm able

452
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:49,679
Speaker 1: to maintain and you know, we just want the fourth Grammy,

453
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying this year. You know what

454
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:59,200
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But but but the way I got there

455
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 1: was so non traditional. It's not you know, I didn't

456
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 1: have a huge hit record or anything. You know. I

457
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 1: heard somebody say like I had to hit life, you know,

458
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 1: like it's been, it's been. It's been like um, it's

459
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 1: been a combination of things that has allowed me to

460
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 1: do that, and part of that was touring UM and

461
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 1: me really understanding that there was another way. I tried

462
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,880
Speaker 1: to sign everywhere, you know what I'm saying. I tried

463
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 1: to I tried to go to traditional route and Young

464
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:30,400
Speaker 1: Money was your first Young Money was my first major,

465
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:36,160
Speaker 1: first and only major deal. Um, yeah, that's what I'm saying.

466
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 1: It's just weird. It's just weird. So so Young Money

467
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:46,640
Speaker 1: was the year after I joined around five and us

468
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,639
Speaker 1: story that I've never met, but we can share the

469
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 1: same kind of name. I think we at one point

470
00:27:55,320 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 1: met him go out to fight, I tried, well, So

471
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 1: so Young Money had way more history than people know.

472
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:08,639
Speaker 1: Me and McMahon went to the same high school in

473
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 1: New Orleans. It wasn't just um, you know random. Uh.

474
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 1: And at that time when I got signed, Wayne was

475
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:19,160
Speaker 1: just getting out of jail and uh, they were trying

476
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,639
Speaker 1: to pivot as a label, like just do different things.

477
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 1: And I think Mac, who is a huge fan of

478
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:28,879
Speaker 1: music in general, he's a music guy. Um just you know,

479
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 1: was like, p you want to do this? And this.

480
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,399
Speaker 1: They were on fire. I mean this was this was

481
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 1: this was Drake was dope. Yeah, he like just and

482
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 1: so what was beautiful and what is beautiful about Young

483
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 1: Money in general that probably isn't said enough is they

484
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 1: leave their artists alone. They just like let them go.

485
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 1: You know. They don't say, oh, well we signed Drake,

486
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 1: so let's I know you've been with forty. But now

487
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 1: let's let's go get him and let's go get you know,

488
00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,719
Speaker 1: this producer. And they're like, na, y'all, just keep doing

489
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 1: what you are doing and we're gonna put steroids on it. Nikki, Oh,

490
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 1: you like doing different voices and what, just keep doing that.

491
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 1: They don't feel the need to. They signed things that

492
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 1: they believe in already. So like I literally they didn't

493
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 1: hear my record until it was mixing master, you know,

494
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 1: and it was just support there um uh and uh.

495
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 1: I mean that was that was my first Grammy nomination

496
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 1: as a solo artist. But that was even random. That

497
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 1: was that was random. You know what. My first official

498
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 1: album was after Erica Badou. So it was years. This

499
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 1: is years, this is five, this is oh five when

500
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 1: I released my first independent record, and that's after I

501
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 1: couldn't sign to any major label. So I had to

502
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 1: figure it out. I didn't know that there was another way.

503
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 1: I had to study, like you do the white rock bands.

504
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 1: Did you do the run? Did you go to every label?

505
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 1: And oh man, I did all the showcases because we

506
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 1: need That's the thing at R and B Money. At

507
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 1: R and B Money podcast, we like to give all

508
00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 1: the information. We liked it. Let them know that this

509
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 1: isn't an overnight thing. This is this is a life thing.

510
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 1: Like you said, you're trying to have a hit life,

511
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 1: and these are the things that sometimes are are are

512
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 1: just looked over. People don't really tap into that disappointment

513
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 1: that going to our somebody said they got an uncle

514
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 1: that work at such and such label, and maybe they

515
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 1: can get me a meeting. Dreams. It's a constant dream

516
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 1: and there are so many dream sellers who are actually nightmares.

517
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 1: Word word no. I I mean I don't. I literally

518
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 1: went to every label, Like me and my turning we

519
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 1: went to I think every label. I mean I remember

520
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 1: sitting down with just about everybody doing showcases, people saying, yo, man,

521
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 1: I love his music. I just don't. You don't think

522
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 1: it's gonna work, you know, and like, uh, you know,

523
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 1: like it just it was too musical and all all

524
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 1: I've heard I heard it all, you know, And so

525
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 1: in my mind I was like that market. In mind too,

526
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, what does this mean? Like how can

527
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 1: I get my music direct to people? Uh? And like

528
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 1: it was way before independence was like cool even anybody

529
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 1: knew what that was. Yeah, when you were in they

530
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 1: at this point. It was because you couldn't get a deal,

531
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, and so and I didn't

532
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 1: even go to an indie label. I said, Okay, how

533
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 1: do I do it? So it was CD Baby, it

534
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 1: was my space. It was like, you know what I'm saying.

535
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 1: My first tour was based off of my sales for

536
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 1: CD Baby. I said, well, I'm gonna go to these

537
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 1: cities and the promoters this is a funny story. But

538
00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 1: the promoters didn't know who I was. And they didn't

539
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 1: know who I was because I was like underground famous, right,

540
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 1: But I knew I had fans. But since they did,

541
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 1: and I said, don't just pay me off the door,

542
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,479
Speaker 1: you don't have to pay me anything. I'm gonna bring everything.

543
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 1: And I borrowed my mom's bus. I just signed my

544
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 1: first publishing deal with Famous Music. The Famous too is

545
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 1: my Yeah yeah Billy Billy Billy signed left Yeah Yeah,

546
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 1: BC signed me and then he went somewhere else. But

547
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 1: that's my guy. He's the first to believe that way.

548
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 1: And I literally had an open door policy, you know

549
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Um and looked out for me. But

550
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 1: I took literally my whole events and said, I'm I'm

551
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 1: not trying to be a writer like that. I'm an artist,

552
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 1: and I took my whole band on tour. I'm took

553
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 1: my horns fourteen people, with the publishing money, with the

554
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 1: publishing money, investing yourself. Dog. Yeah, Like I've always been

555
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,959
Speaker 1: a maniac because if I if I think about that now,

556
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 1: it's like, Yo, what were you doing? But literally, those

557
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 1: fourteen places I went, I could go for the rest

558
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 1: of my life, even today. But I didn't couldn't afford

559
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 1: the tour bus. My mom had a women of Excellence

560
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 1: bus that was the women's ministry at the church. Took

561
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 1: the church bus. I took a charter bus that was purple,

562
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 1: pink and white. They thought a women's conference was fulling

563
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 1: up to the clubs. But I didn't care though I

564
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 1: literally didn't. I didn't care. I had to get to it,

565
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 1: that's all I knew. I'm like, I paid my boys nice.

566
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I was like, Yo, y'all

567
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 1: we on tour. You know what I'm saying. We don't

568
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 1: don't talk about how long I didn't eat from that,

569
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. That's why I always kept

570
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 1: a job where I could be flexible playing at church

571
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 1: and as a producer and a writer. That's why I

572
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 1: was still in that game, was because I needed to

573
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 1: fund what I really cared about. But we went on

574
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 1: that tour and literally like those markets Atlanta and Birmingham

575
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 1: and like Charleston, I can I still go to those

576
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 1: places and have a following because of ten plus years

577
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 1: ago when I when I kind of like invested in myself,

578
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 1: you know, uh, for better or worse. It was just like,

579
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 1: you know, it really got me to walk to this

580
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 1: place how many people? Oh my god? I can remember

581
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 1: us playing Columbus, Ohio and it was like twenty people,

582
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like, and I was like,

583
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 1: whoa this is because we're at least Atlanta. We had

584
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 1: a yeah. Yeah, so I lost. I took I took

585
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 1: a loss on that um and then some some of

586
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,839
Speaker 1: the rooms were two hundred people, you know what I'm saying.

587
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 1: On a hundred people and we we put on the

588
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 1: show like it was thousand people, had three background singers,

589
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:27,799
Speaker 1: that hell, three horns in the crowd. Yeah my band

590
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 1: was bigger than the crowd. Yeah, facts like the but

591
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 1: but but I did not man It's so crazy how

592
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 1: I didn't care at all, Like I didn't care at all.

593
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 1: I didn't care that I was spending my money. I

594
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 1: just really felt sure that if I just stayed here,

595
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 1: you know, it would click. And and so that that's

596
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 1: kind of that kind of has has been the story.

597
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 1: So I was on the on the tour of mine

598
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 1: for another album called Walk Alone, and Adam Blackstone called

599
00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:00,120
Speaker 1: me and was like, yo, maron five looking or a

600
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 1: keyboard player, singer, you know. I told him, only no

601
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 1: one like you. I just threw your hat, you know,

602
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 1: your name in the hat, and I was like, um, okay.

603
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 1: I literally they wanted me to audition. I canceled the

604
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 1: last three days of my tour and came to l

605
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 1: A and all they did was asked me to learn

606
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:22,320
Speaker 1: Sunday Morning. I was like, okay, is falling? Were you

607
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 1: familiar with the group? Yeah, I was a fan. This

608
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,879
Speaker 1: love and stuff. I feel like that was mine maybe

609
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 1: not like freshman year a college or like sophomore years.

610
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 1: So I knew I was here too. This his taking this.

611
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:38,800
Speaker 1: I was like, these these boys are nice. So I

612
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:42,320
Speaker 1: knew that, right. I knew Sunday Morning, and but I

613
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,399
Speaker 1: had never auditioned before. This is my first audition in life,

614
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 1: because people it was always word of mouth. They like, right,

615
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 1: these guys didn't know me at all, and so Blackstone

616
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 1: was just vouching. Um. And so I came to l

617
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 1: a place Sunday morning and then we just vibe. I

618
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 1: kind of knew I had it imediately because because of

619
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 1: the vibe, not because anybody could play. Yeah, and they

620
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 1: was so we start jamming. It was like what else,

621
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 1: you know, I was like, and we went too long

622
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:17,760
Speaker 1: and they had people waiting, so we had to stop

623
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,479
Speaker 1: people with the audition. And then they had a second

624
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 1: day of auditions that they ended up canceling and called

625
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 1: me that night, you know, and it's been Yeah, it'll

626
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 1: be thirteen years in July, you know, like twelve plush

627
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 1: years that I've been with Maroon And that really changed

628
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 1: my life. But it also freed me up to really

629
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 1: make the art I wanted to because I didn't have

630
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 1: to sell I don't have to sell records. Yeah and um,

631
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 1: and so Young Money was my last kind of attempt

632
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 1: at the normal way, you know, like I was like,

633
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,320
Speaker 1: all right, let me try this one more time. And

634
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 1: when Young Money didn't necessarily fit, you know, uh, and

635
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 1: on that on that, on that Young Money album, I

636
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 1: did double duty with Maroon. I opened up from Maron

637
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 1: five Kelly Clarkson, you know, was before Maroon, and then

638
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 1: I closed with my Room five and then we did

639
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 1: that in Europe, I opened Robin Thick and then I

640
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 1: closed with my Round five. So those guys, and I

641
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 1: think the reason I'm still there is because they've always

642
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 1: fully supported me, like fully like what like whatever, like

643
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, true friends, and um, so

644
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 1: I told them, and we told each other, you know,

645
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 1: if I never have to leave, I don't. I don't why,

646
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 1: you know, like we family at this point. But that

647
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 1: really allowed me to, you know, like beat myself and

648
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 1: fully make it without any pressure allowed me to. And

649
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 1: then so um, I left l A and went to

650
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 1: move back home to New Orleans. Maroon had played jazz

651
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 1: Fest in and I started seeing my city way different.

652
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, it is kind of fly, like I

653
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 1: didn't remember it, Like it was just a totally different perspective.

654
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 1: Had been around the world at that time something like that.

655
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 1: It looked like South of France, like you know what

656
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like I get it, and so that planned

657
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 1: at that seed and then um, yeah I decided I

658
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 1: was leaving. Um this was right, I think. I don't

659
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 1: know if that was your room, but North Hollywood, you

660
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 1: remember at that studio next to you off of Magnolia.

661
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 1: Was that your actual room? I didn't remember. Yeah, yeah,

662
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 1: I was next to you for for like a year probably,

663
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 1: I guess that was my little room. Yeah, I was.

664
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 1: I was right next to y'all. Yeah you know what

665
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 1: because I brought it up as in joking form about

666
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 1: about James Valentine, but you actually were instrumental in us

667
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 1: figuring out um a p R O mishap because like

668
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 1: somehow ASCAP was getting James Valentine and Jay Valentine mixed

669
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 1: up and was holding up both of our money. And

670
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:00,800
Speaker 1: you're you were the only person that I that I

671
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 1: even knew remotely that could get to Maroon. Remember I

672
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 1: stopped you one then I'm like, hey, I know it's

673
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 1: about to be some different ship, but yeah you can

674
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 1: tell yeah, yeah, yeah, it's crazy. But in that room,

675
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,800
Speaker 1: I started writing Gumbo, like my album Gumbo, and I

676
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 1: was like, I knew I was gonna leave Alto and so,

677
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 1: but in their room, I remember writing this song first beginning.

678
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:29,320
Speaker 1: That really kicked off everything. So I moved home and

679
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 1: I didn't want to do music at all. I'm like, yo,

680
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 1: I'm I'm straight, I'm cool, I'm in maron five, not bad,

681
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 1: you know, Okay, I'm right in life, Like you know

682
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It's like we tried to sing, you

683
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,360
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying at that time. It's like I said, oh, five,

684
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 1: So it's like at this time, you know, it's probably

685
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 1: seven years in eight years in of trying if you

686
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 1: count my group in O two in college. Then we're

687
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:55,840
Speaker 1: talking about like a long time trying, just trying, just

688
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 1: keep like getting knocked down and saying, you know, let

689
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 1: me go back. You what I'm saying. And um so

690
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,359
Speaker 1: I was like I'm done. And then I got back

691
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:06,840
Speaker 1: to New Orleans and it was like no expectation and

692
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know what, I'm gonna just make one

693
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 1: more thing and I'm not gonna worry about radio. I'm

694
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:15,400
Speaker 1: not gonna worry about I'm gonna just make what I

695
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 1: want to make. And that was supposed to be the

696
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 1: last album that was Gumbo, and that kind of changed everything,

697
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 1: kind of everything everything. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, No, it's

698
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 1: it's gotta be strategic. You know, I think we talked

699
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 1: about the dreams so much, but sometimes you gotta have

700
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:42,439
Speaker 1: an actual strategic plan to make that happen. And that's

701
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:44,800
Speaker 1: for me. You know, I was blessed enough to have

702
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 1: like a church gig while I'm playing once a week,

703
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,879
Speaker 1: so I couldn't move around, or being a producer a writer,

704
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 1: and you know, finding some success in that and being

705
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 1: able to you know what I'm saying, cushion that. But

706
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,800
Speaker 1: but I put all my money right back in. You

707
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying that I need people to understand.

708
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 1: I was like even when you saw me, even at

709
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 1: a point where people may have thought I was successful

710
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 1: in the sense of oh you man, you're touring, you're

711
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 1: going crazy. You yeah, you see my band and my this, Yeah,

712
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,839
Speaker 1: it's going right back out. And I understood that. That's

713
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 1: why I kept another thing, you know what I'm saying,

714
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 1: And I tell people, and this is actually what every

715
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 1: part of your team and every part of your career.

716
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 1: Because some people think I gotta go to get an agent,

717
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 1: I gotta get a manager, I gotta go get prs,

718
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 1: Like what do you what do you publicize, like you

719
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 1: don't have nothing to feed them, you know what I'm saying,

720
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 1: And you want to spend this a month, so like

721
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 1: slow down and do everything you can. I say, the

722
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 1: biggest blessing with me not getting a major deal and

723
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 1: all of that stuff was I had to learn everything

724
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 1: I had to learn. I mean, I drove the van

725
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 1: I you know what I'm saying. I came up with

726
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,319
Speaker 1: the merch you know what I'm saying. I figured out

727
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 1: the door deals, you know, and and understood how that,

728
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 1: how that? Oh yeah somewhere. Yeah, I gotta gotta get

729
00:41:59,920 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 1: you out. Yeah, I gotta get trip tripping, y'all being

730
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 1: supposed to have that. Um. But like it made me

731
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 1: learn every aspect of the business. So people couldn't just

732
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 1: tell me anything once I was Once I was there,

733
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,479
Speaker 1: so it's like I say, don't add this agent until

734
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 1: you know what your agent is supposed to do and

735
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,839
Speaker 1: know why you need the agents something, because they think

736
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:25,800
Speaker 1: if I get an agent, they're it's done. No, No,

737
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 1: that's not how it works. These people have to want

738
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:31,319
Speaker 1: to see you. Yeah, so we we really got to educate. Man.

739
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 1: I feel like I was the last generation of like

740
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 1: some people still giving game, you know what I'm saying,

741
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 1: and this and this and this newness, but I think

742
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 1: we gotta get that, we gotta just kind of teach it. Well,

743
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,840
Speaker 1: that's why I appreciate this, man, y'all really here, I

744
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 1: mean you, I'm really hearing game when I listened to this,

745
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 1: to this podcast. Man, I appreciate you all. And I

746
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 1: think it's no accident that it's like taking off at

747
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 1: the speed it has because it's like when there's a

748
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 1: when there's a need that's not being met. You know

749
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:01,840
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, People like, oh, shoot, I was just

750
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:05,799
Speaker 1: waiting for the whale. You know what I'm saying. And y'all, yeah, yeah,

751
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 1: for sure, for sure, bro, Yeah yeah you sound you

752
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 1: loan something up? Man? What's she doing cleaning your throat?

753
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:30,760
Speaker 1: I see I see red lights coming on? Top five?

754
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 1: Oh my god, your top five? Pas, top five? Your

755
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 1: top five? All right? Top five? Oh, y'all? Top songs

756
00:43:53,680 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 1: beyond your top five? Mm hm m m man. Just

757
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 1: take my time. Time, I got time to night. Just

758
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 1: get out there. You don't want me near. Okay, old artists, Okay,

759
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 1: Stevie um uh read the Franklin Um Michael um and

760
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:54,439
Speaker 1: Prince was everything, but Prince you know, um who would

761
00:44:54,480 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 1: be my fifth R and B artists, because you know

762
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 1: it was like soul music from you know, it was

763
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 1: like the soul and R and B different sometimes for me.

764
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 1: But I had to say Joe to See probably from

765
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:15,320
Speaker 1: my from my yeah, because just because of how it

766
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 1: come on and talk to me, I knew it. Why

767
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 1: do you do? I understood it immediately. I was like

768
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 1: what I mean? I said, oh, that's yeah, I know

769
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 1: what that is. That's church. Yeah, that's what I think.

770
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 1: I'm in the video. That was your church. That was

771
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 1: what Yeah, the first time, that's what they did the

772
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:54,360
Speaker 1: first time. Because I heard Joe to See before I

773
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 1: heard commission ch okay yeah, and I'm like that Jodis,

774
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 1: I like yeah. But as I as I like studied

775
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 1: it and I really dove into commission, I'm like, oh

776
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 1: my god, yeah, blue print, it's still originators of jo

777
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 1: to See and so many these I was mad, Yeah, man,

778
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:24,360
Speaker 1: I got her commission story dog, I was nine. I

779
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:27,800
Speaker 1: was nine and they came to my dad's church, but

780
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 1: they had but commission. And I told you I had

781
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 1: my dad at the pop in church. My dad was

782
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 1: from my dad's from Windsor, from Canada, so his dad

783
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 1: was a big bishop in Canada and Detroit. So like

784
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 1: my dad grew up with the Whinings and the Clark sisters,

785
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:45,879
Speaker 1: their families grew up together. So it was that, right, man,

786
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 1: Like my dad's first solo record. Do you remember Thomas

787
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 1: Whinfill he produced my dad's solo record. Commission sang background

788
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:57,800
Speaker 1: on my dad's first solo record. So like it's that's right, okay, okay,

789
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 1: they came dog and I'm talking about Commission came through

790
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:05,359
Speaker 1: like this must have been the first album because I was, uh,

791
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 1: this was this was like uh uh uh I'm going

792
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 1: on and then yeah, all that stuff right, but it

793
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 1: had to be thumbed. Dude, dude, dude, so they must

794
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 1: have been there. What was that? I just hear the

795
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 1: music right now. But anyways, all they had stacked amps

796
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:30,320
Speaker 1: like rock and rock. They came through there like rock stars.

797
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:34,799
Speaker 1: It was the loudest I've ever heard music. Man. When

798
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:38,400
Speaker 1: I tell you, they smashed. It was like seeing my

799
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 1: favorite rock band. Like I remember standing by my dad's

800
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 1: office because I guess that had to be the dressing

801
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 1: room back that's where they was changing and I stood

802
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:49,320
Speaker 1: there waiting for the autograph stock. This is how this

803
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 1: is how deep it was. But man, commission bro commission man,

804
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 1: Mitchell Jones, Mitch, Mitch. I had him on the I

805
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 1: brought him back from my gospel album at Mitch and

806
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 1: Carl and Fred on this gospel court in the PJ album.

807
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:09,320
Speaker 1: I did, what, how do you describe Mitchell Jones his vocal?

808
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:12,760
Speaker 1: W what was that? Because it was it was kind

809
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 1: of Stevie ste So when I got to so when

810
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 1: he I mean, I gotta literally the song, but like

811
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:26,880
Speaker 1: it's Mitch, it's Mitch being Mitch, right, And he told

812
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 1: me the reason they like me and stuff is because

813
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:33,840
Speaker 1: Donnie had the wait was like really influential. And I

814
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:37,319
Speaker 1: think Mitch was just like a combo of I don't

815
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:40,800
Speaker 1: really know. He was so quick. I don't really know,

816
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 1: but he still got had patterns. They didn't have normal patterns. No,

817
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 1: I think they like and the and the and the crack.

818
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 1: He had the baby face crack within his patterns. That

819
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,880
Speaker 1: hard Yeah, that was like manufactured hard in that was

820
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 1: like the crack. I couldn't figure. I was obsessed. They

821
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 1: reinvented singing though in a way like they they you

822
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 1: know how I say, it's a few of them. It's like,

823
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 1: you know, commission. People started to sing different after that

824
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 1: as w V. Like I remember when all girls, all

825
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 1: the girls wanted to be Coco, right absolutely, um, you

826
00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 1: know it happened with Kimbrell, you know, when everybody wanted

827
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 1: So sometimes that just comes along. But like Mitch fred Keith,

828
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:32,319
Speaker 1: that thing was like people started singing on the side

829
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 1: of it, like they changed it. I mean, you know,

830
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:43,319
Speaker 1: I'm saying they changed it. Bro. We wanted to beat them.

831
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 1: We wanted to beat them. Um. But that was just

832
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:47,800
Speaker 1: my quick commits. I just made me think of that

833
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 1: because I forgot it didn't before my church, but we

834
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 1: used to always go to all the churches in the city,

835
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 1: and they were wherever they were, Oh no rock stars.

836
00:49:57,239 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 1: And the first time I've ever heard a track okay

837
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 1: playing like with with with them. Yeah they were head

838
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 1: man were head it was. And then when I'm like,

839
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 1: why did that focal sound like that? Because they're singing

840
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 1: I am here and it sounds like it's all it's embodied.

841
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 1: They have background tracks on the npiece. Never what is

842
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 1: happening in here? A church group? Yeah? Never? Okay, game change, right. Sorry,

843
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:30,320
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so I did my five top five songs.

844
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:34,360
Speaker 1: You can do it, um, because it could just be

845
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 1: for today the ones to all right, So so let's say.

846
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:43,440
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just going all the time. So Donnie,

847
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 1: since were something one Donnie had the way I think, um,

848
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 1: you know, a song for you? So for you? I

849
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 1: mean when I heard that, I was I got chills.

850
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 1: I was like, I was like, I was almost like

851
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:56,279
Speaker 1: scared too. I was like maybe I knew his story too.

852
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 1: I was like, this just feels it haunting. I was

853
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 1: like it was almost like he predicted, you know, Um,

854
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:07,839
Speaker 1: so song for you. Um, Stevie, there's so many songs. Um,

855
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 1: I'd probably say an unknown joint um either ordinary pain

856
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 1: or the song called Summer Soft, that song songs a

857
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 1: key of life. I got so many though, Stevie, so

858
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:26,359
Speaker 1: that but I just I'll just say, Stevie, um, um

859
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:31,920
Speaker 1: shoot R and B songs. If I'm just saying, Joe

860
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 1: to see come and talk to me. Um shoot l

861
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 1: de Barge or the barge, come on, come on, come on,

862
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 1: you love I sweitch. Even though what I'm saying I

863
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 1: know the brother was killing before, but all this love, man,

864
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:56,880
Speaker 1: it still works today, still works today. I wear them,

865
00:51:57,080 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 1: wear them if I feel R and B SA, Oh

866
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 1: my god. So I'm the dummy who watches you'all podcast

867
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 1: and say, don't think of yours, like, don't prepare. I

868
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:14,320
Speaker 1: don't like being prepared? Did I feel stupid for doing that?

869
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:21,359
Speaker 1: But um um um, let's say can we talk? Yeah?

870
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:26,959
Speaker 1: I remember that, I remember that time all time. Okay, okay, okay, okay,

871
00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 1: you did good, you did good. Um, we're gonna build

872
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:34,719
Speaker 1: R and B voltron Okay, we're gonna build your R

873
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 1: and B artists. We're gonna need the vocal from somewhere,

874
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:43,239
Speaker 1: the performance style from somewhere, the styling from somewhere, and

875
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:46,919
Speaker 1: the passion from somewhere. Who are you getting the vocal from?

876
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:49,359
Speaker 1: What artists are you snatching the vocal from to make

877
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:54,720
Speaker 1: your R and B artists? Um? I feel like Stevie

878
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 1: is too easy. I'm gonna say, let's say like Whitney.

879
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 1: I just feel like I never heard Whitney saying a

880
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 1: bad I mean like it was. It's like she's the voice,

881
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:13,719
Speaker 1: you know. So I say I say Whitney. Let's say Whitney. Yeah, um,

882
00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 1: performance style on stage? I mean Prince Man. I saw Prince.

883
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:27,880
Speaker 1: I saw Prince a few times and did you ever

884
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:34,719
Speaker 1: I saw him once? Yeah, yeah, yeah right with the

885
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 1: same Yeah, now Prince for I mean, like performance wise,

886
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 1: I just used to study them and and and then

887
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 1: as a you know, like de'angelo was an extension of

888
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 1: that for me. But like I saw the mind James

889
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 1: was really all of them, but like Prince. Yeah, it

890
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 1: was something about how Prince was this like urban rock

891
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:02,759
Speaker 1: star most but also pop rock star, like all the

892
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:06,880
Speaker 1: same kind of thing. It's like everybody. Everybody just understood it.

893
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 1: Everybody understood for some reason. Yeah, he just got to

894
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 1: everybody whatever sensibilities they had. He had somebody that made

895
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 1: sense to them. He could they dancing okay, yeah yeah,

896
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 1: who are you getting the styling from, like like the vibe,

897
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:28,919
Speaker 1: like the look? Yeah, use use prints, But no, I don't.

898
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 1: I don't want to wear what Princes was wearing necessarily,

899
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:33,320
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, because not as confident in my

900
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 1: cheese and my chicks. Yeah, I'm not as confident in

901
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 1: my cheeks. So I wouldn't want We wouldn't want it.

902
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 1: He would want to do that time, isn't wonder At

903
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:55,319
Speaker 1: the same time. Cha can't do that, So we don't.

904
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:58,560
Speaker 1: We don't don't want that, We don't want that. Who

905
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:05,400
Speaker 1: was just smooth? I say, mar let's say Martina with

906
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 1: the baby Yeah yeah, okay. And the passion, the heart

907
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:18,840
Speaker 1: of the artists, the passion I had to say, Donnie

908
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:21,840
Speaker 1: had the way I mean conviction. Bro. It was like

909
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:25,759
Speaker 1: when I heard Donnie live and I heard them people,

910
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, wait, they are they in the club? Are

911
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 1: they in the church? Like I heard him. I couldn't

912
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 1: understand it. And I think about my live albums now

913
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 1: and stuff like that that are really connected. And it's

914
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 1: all that's where that that came from me understanding that

915
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 1: you could still have the same conviction even if you talk,

916
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:47,440
Speaker 1: you're singing a love song or you so like hands

917
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:52,400
Speaker 1: down Donnie man like passion you felt it even make

918
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:54,759
Speaker 1: me want to cry everything anything he say. You know

919
00:55:54,760 --> 00:56:08,440
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Yeah, yeah, wow trump Yeah yeah. Oh no,

920
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:18,879
Speaker 1: that's the that's the Reaper, ain't it? Oh smokey, are

921
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:22,959
Speaker 1: saying no, I saying no name. I'm saying the name.

922
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:39,840
Speaker 1: Who was? What we did? You know? I do? I

923
00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 1: stup right down? Still you get the same down? Okay? Yeah,

924
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 1: listen to help me the story right, funnier fucked up,

925
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 1: are funny and fucked up in the travels of p J. Morton.

926
00:56:55,719 --> 00:57:00,359
Speaker 1: The only the only one thing you can't do. Yeah,

927
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:04,840
Speaker 1: it's say the name right. You can't say no names.

928
00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:08,359
Speaker 1: You can not put a face with the case. Yes,

929
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:16,400
Speaker 1: this is p J. Morden. I ain't saying all right, dang,

930
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:20,240
Speaker 1: I don't have I'd be by myself so much. I'm

931
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 1: such a loner that I haven't had a lot of

932
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 1: experiences with I had somebody threatened to kill me before. Yeah,

933
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:34,000
Speaker 1: I was saying no name. He was like, yeah, I

934
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 1: kill I'll kill you. I didn't. I think I was

935
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:38,919
Speaker 1: a little green. This ain't really my story. But maybe

936
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:45,040
Speaker 1: this works because this guy is in the industry, and um,

937
00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:49,960
Speaker 1: I he was trying to work with another artist, and

938
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:51,920
Speaker 1: I was like, I didn't know him that well, but

939
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:54,720
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, I heard something, I heard some stuff,

940
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 1: but I was just really trying to help out a friend.

941
00:57:57,360 --> 00:57:59,000
Speaker 1: I was just trying to tell this artist, like, you know,

942
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 1: just bell no normal normal energy, like very like not

943
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 1: like yo, don't mess with this dude that and uh

944
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:12,080
Speaker 1: so apparently this artist told the person and they called

945
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:16,840
Speaker 1: me and um, he was like, man, you're messing up

946
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 1: my money. I was like, he was like, I kill you.

947
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:24,520
Speaker 1: I was like it went right there though, that's the

948
00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 1: that's the immediate They said, I'll kill you, but I

949
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 1: ain't saying no names. What did you say in response

950
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:34,640
Speaker 1: to that? Well, I'd really see. This is the thing.

951
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 1: It's so crazy because I've been around all kinds of stuff,

952
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:39,440
Speaker 1: like right, like I was signed the cash money like

953
00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 1: I was with baby. But what I always have done

954
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:49,040
Speaker 1: is like just remain consistent as a man. You know

955
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like I'm no and I'm the furthest

956
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 1: thing from a from a streetcat. You know what I'm saying.

957
00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:58,480
Speaker 1: But like I just was like I always felt like

958
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 1: I could talk, Like if I just talk to you,

959
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 1: you don't understand you know what I'm saying. That's my

960
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 1: that's my like innocence, right, I'm like, bro, No, I

961
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:10,280
Speaker 1: was just trying to help her out. But he I

962
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 1: kind of disarmed him because he was like, oh, because

963
00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:14,960
Speaker 1: I thought you was you know what I'm saying. I'm like, nah, man,

964
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:17,600
Speaker 1: like kill you know what I'm saying. But we did

965
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:21,680
Speaker 1: have to have a middle man who knew me was like, Yo,

966
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:25,400
Speaker 1: that's not him. You gotta you gotta relax. That's pretty good.

967
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 1: I said that. I never said that, but I got

968
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:32,560
Speaker 1: he was gonna kill I'm like, Yo, this industry is different.

969
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:40,160
Speaker 1: You want to kill me. I'm imagine that you want

970
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 1: to kill me? Bro Yeah yeah, yeah, I thought I

971
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:45,720
Speaker 1: had another one in my head. But that that that

972
00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:53,439
Speaker 1: that's music business and listen over a woman. Yeah yeah,

973
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:57,320
Speaker 1: in any capacity, in any compacity, I've got that same

974
00:59:57,560 --> 01:00:00,640
Speaker 1: same threatening and energy, right, same threatening. I'll kill you,

975
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 1: I'll kill you. You want to die to night? Dad,

976
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:05,720
Speaker 1: I don't think so like you're gonna do it like

977
01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:09,840
Speaker 1: like when you're gonna like you're gonna kill You're gonna

978
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:11,920
Speaker 1: do it. And I'm whatever you do to me to

979
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 1: tell me that outside right now? Why why would you

980
01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:22,040
Speaker 1: have so many people that's sores to have that. He

981
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:24,840
Speaker 1: was mad at me for making fun of him. Yeah,

982
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:31,320
Speaker 1: you're gonna get a hundred for me, yo. Yeah, comes

983
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:34,600
Speaker 1: like five yards paper. That is not like you shouldn't

984
01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:38,080
Speaker 1: have to do that just peer just on the per

985
01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:40,360
Speaker 1: just from a pure numbers perspective, that is gonna be

986
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:42,880
Speaker 1: crowded like you. I'm saying like I was like, Bro,

987
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:45,480
Speaker 1: I don't even just like, yeah, you're gonna. I don't

988
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:48,680
Speaker 1: think that's any of your business. Why are you like this?

989
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:58,880
Speaker 1: You try to play yeah yeah, yeah in here if

990
01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:01,520
Speaker 1: I give you it, just if I'm giving any opinion

991
01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:04,200
Speaker 1: on this, I got to tell that story. But when

992
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:06,480
Speaker 1: I gotta do, I say no names, And I got

993
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:11,120
Speaker 1: to tell that story. It is the funniest sounds. Oh

994
01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:16,360
Speaker 1: my god. If I could say the names anyway, you can't.

995
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:21,360
Speaker 1: You can't. Brother. Um let's start with I'm glad that

996
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 1: he didn't kick. Oh, I'm alive. I'm alive. He's still

997
01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:30,760
Speaker 1: he's still kicking out here. Yeah, bro, you you're you're

998
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:34,280
Speaker 1: absolutely amazing brother. And that and that is not you know,

999
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:37,200
Speaker 1: that is not industry talk. That is not fluff. That

1000
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:39,760
Speaker 1: we are fans of what you are fans and and

1001
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:42,560
Speaker 1: it makes sense man. You you put in the work,

1002
01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:46,560
Speaker 1: you put in the time. Um, and and you hone

1003
01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:49,040
Speaker 1: your gift in real places, man, in real rooms and

1004
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:52,480
Speaker 1: and real dirt floors, man, And and really get into

1005
01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:56,880
Speaker 1: the chicken, man, so that part alone, man deserves the salute.

1006
01:01:57,040 --> 01:02:00,720
Speaker 1: And as many flowers as imaginable, man like warting artists

1007
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:04,440
Speaker 1: to understand like that groundwork is real, man, and that

1008
01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:07,080
Speaker 1: that will be the difference in you standing the test

1009
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:09,960
Speaker 1: of time said, being able to go into these rooms

1010
01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:12,400
Speaker 1: and these whether it's a big room or small room

1011
01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:16,600
Speaker 1: meeting um and go crazy with with the gift that

1012
01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:22,800
Speaker 1: you've that you've perfected, perform in front of a gift

1013
01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:26,720
Speaker 1: that you've perfected. Thank you, man, man, thank thank thank

1014
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:29,760
Speaker 1: you brother than thank your Grammy. So we can at

1015
01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:33,040
Speaker 1: least see, yes, we see it. You know what I'm

1016
01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:41,160
Speaker 1: saying that we know we both I've been nominated anyone,

1017
01:02:43,120 --> 01:02:45,720
Speaker 1: I lost a lot. You know what I'm saying. I've

1018
01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:51,160
Speaker 1: been nominated. Listen, I'm just saying nominated nineteen times Jesus

1019
01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:54,840
Speaker 1: counting this year. Three years. I'm nominated for three right, nine,

1020
01:02:55,240 --> 01:02:57,800
Speaker 1: sixteen before that, and I want four. So I mean

1021
01:02:58,160 --> 01:03:01,120
Speaker 1: there's a lot of I've been nominated, no times because

1022
01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:04,800
Speaker 1: so many times I've won. Well, this has to be revived.

1023
01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:08,440
Speaker 1: R and B Album of the Year. How everybody should

1024
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:11,880
Speaker 1: get a Grammy and producer and producer get Grammars. I

1025
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:13,280
Speaker 1: don't know why they do R and be like that.

1026
01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:16,600
Speaker 1: It's all of those, it's all of this up. That's

1027
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:20,080
Speaker 1: not fair. It's not fair and shout out to Harvey.

1028
01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:22,840
Speaker 1: He's gonna help make that change. But that's not crazy, y'all.

1029
01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:25,080
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying like that, that that even

1030
01:03:25,160 --> 01:03:27,840
Speaker 1: that journey of like where Harvey is. Yeah, you know

1031
01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:33,880
Speaker 1: what I mean. So I technically yeah, yeah one see

1032
01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:36,720
Speaker 1: that's what happened with me. So so I would is

1033
01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:43,160
Speaker 1: out of mind. I thought I won because India Rewe

1034
01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:44,920
Speaker 1: that's Sorry R and B album for that album I

1035
01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:48,040
Speaker 1: worked on in college. So I have been telling people

1036
01:03:48,040 --> 01:03:50,440
Speaker 1: I wanted Grammy for ten years until I started actually

1037
01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:52,960
Speaker 1: working with the Grammys and knew them and I had

1038
01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:55,760
Speaker 1: to write something and they was like, oh, no, you

1039
01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:59,600
Speaker 1: you never want to agree. You just notified my Grammy. No,

1040
01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:02,600
Speaker 1: here just saying because that's what he been coming. Oh,

1041
01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:06,360
Speaker 1: I'm saying, yeah, I did what you're talking about. I

1042
01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:08,320
Speaker 1: did what you're talking about. And I do think that

1043
01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:12,760
Speaker 1: if you worked on it, you know you were you

1044
01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:15,560
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, you'll grab me adjacent you have

1045
01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:17,360
Speaker 1: you you have your plaque. I mean, you know what

1046
01:04:17,360 --> 01:04:21,280
Speaker 1: I mean. It's Jason, you live in the hood, but

1047
01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:24,480
Speaker 1: it's close to the nice I'm saying. Now, there's my question.

1048
01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:26,600
Speaker 1: I wasn't trying to That's not what I was trying

1049
01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:32,360
Speaker 1: to do, though, because I do think that enough. I

1050
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Speaker 1: was just trying to help you work with them people. No,

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Speaker 1: you always just saying work with not not not worked

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Speaker 1: on it. And so how is it an R and

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Speaker 1: B Album of the Year if I'm not on it?

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Speaker 1: The whole R and B album consist of me? You

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Speaker 1: have composition. Yeah, without that composition, it's not a whole album.

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Speaker 1: I agree with you. But would you want me to

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Speaker 1: do you want me to you want me to lie

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Speaker 1: to you? You know what I'm saying. I agree with

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Speaker 1: you what you're saying, and I agree because yes, in

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Speaker 1: that space, yes, I'm counting on you to lead the

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Speaker 1: charl fight for R and B making that change. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: We just you know, they just got album of the

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Speaker 1: Year for everybody to get a Grammy. That that is

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Speaker 1: a part of it. So I think, you know, it

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Speaker 1: is growing in that direction and understanding that these these

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Speaker 1: things are collaborative. You know what I'm saying, we're calling

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Speaker 1: Harry Monday. Well, I mean it's a busy time right now.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's probably wait till after the season. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. The focus. Graham is just

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Speaker 1: a few months away. I just I don't think I

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Speaker 1: should get into it. Yeah, I'm just let me see

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Speaker 1: how I go for it. Let's see how I go first. Translation, people,

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna let yeah, yeah, I let go first.

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Speaker 1: Let me go first. You hold on, hold on, let

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Speaker 1: me get get past these three tech that we're gonna fight.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna fight the power. Yeah, first thing on the docket,

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Speaker 1: my first, my first hundred days as president. Just oh,

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Speaker 1: y'all boys, marching, y'all boys, y'all, yo, boys, stabilizing. Oh, okay,

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Speaker 1: y'all go, y'all, donna do that, y'all stabilizing. Okay, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna get with you. I'm gonna get with no man.

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Speaker 1: It is it's a human process, you know. So it's

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Speaker 1: like it deserves to be grown. We got to get

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Speaker 1: in trouble with Stevens, like I'll see you. We don't

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Speaker 1: confirm your three this year. Man, you earned it. You

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Speaker 1: deserved than you deserve. Man. And thanks listen, man, I'm

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Speaker 1: thanking Ja Valentine And this is the r by Money Podcast,

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Speaker 1: the authority. Yeah, all things. We have been blessed and

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Speaker 1: honored to be with this brother writer Man be Amazing

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