1 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:12,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot of fear mongering. Is it really 2 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: as bad like all the time, as bad as people think. 3 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:17,640 Speaker 1: I'm not necessarily sure. It is late cake high at 4 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:21,600 Speaker 1: top a bustling Ames Iowa. We are Thursday. We are 5 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 1: March twenty first, the year of our lower twenty twenty 6 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: four Jampack Show. As always been to have Matt Campbell 7 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: on the back half of this show. Sat down with 8 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: him a lot to get into on a lot of 9 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: topics around college football, not just Iowa State. So I 10 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:36,239 Speaker 1: don't care if you're a Portland State grad, You'll probably 11 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:38,199 Speaker 1: be interested in what he has to say. I'm going 12 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 1: to talk, albeit very briefly, about this whole deal with 13 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 1: ESPN and the college football Playoff. I know a lot 14 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:46,239 Speaker 1: of you're interested in it. I'm just forget about things 15 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:48,160 Speaker 1: on the periphery. I'm gonna try and cut through on it. 16 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 1: Got something on Ryan Day. There are a lot of 17 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 1: new teams in new conferences this year. Are any of 18 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: you planning on actually winning those conferences or any of 19 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 1: you out there looking to bet new teams in new conferences. 20 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 1: We'll talk about all of that and more us in 21 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 1: Des Moines, Iowa, where I spent a night last night. 22 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: They're watching US Atlanta, Georgia. I am Maillo, Texas. A 23 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: lot of good behind the scenes stuff, guys. We've been 24 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: on the road. As I said, we were in Missouri 25 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 1: two days ago, Manhattan, Kansas yesterday, Aims today, we're gonna 26 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: be all over the country at Lake Kick Josh. If 27 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: you want a good peak behind the scenes of what 28 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:20,759 Speaker 1: it's like at these programs, specifically over on Instagram, I've 29 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 1: had a lot of good stuff for you. Okay, let's 30 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:27,320 Speaker 1: dive into the show tonight. Forget one of you. A 31 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: whole bunch of you asked what my thoughts were on 32 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: ESPN acquiring or extending their acquiring of the exclusive rights 33 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:36,759 Speaker 1: to the college football playoff contract through I think it's 34 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: like twenty thirty one, and there's this kind of Boogeyman 35 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: syndrome in the room where everyone wants to hate on 36 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: and bash everything that is establishment college football, whether it's 37 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: the NCAA or whether it's ESPN because they've said something 38 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: once upon a time you don't like, or there's an 39 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: on air talent there that you think is biased against 40 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: your program, or you just think holistically, maybe they're participate 41 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:02,919 Speaker 1: and practices behind the scenes that are detrimental to the sport. 42 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: And look, I'm not saying there's not validity to some 43 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:09,239 Speaker 1: of that, but I don't think that we have angels 44 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 1: running any kind of angelic media company out there. So 45 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: at some point you have to bite your own personal 46 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:17,919 Speaker 1: bullet for you know, the greater good. Okay, So that 47 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 1: sounds like a bunch of boilerplate stuff, I know. So 48 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: what I think about it is I wish personally that 49 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: we had a college football playoff contract that number one 50 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: didn't include twelve teams. But beside the point at this point, 51 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 1: so I wish we had a world with the existing 52 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: and future college football plaoff structure where every network had 53 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: a piece of it. Now, this is my perfect world. 54 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get to why that wasn't possible in a second. 55 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: But I would love for it to kind of mirror 56 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: what the NFL does. And I'm, as usual not I'm 57 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 1: not a big proponent of our sport adopting a lot 58 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: of what the NFL does, But listen, when it comes 59 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 1: to presentation and distribution, there's a lot of the NFL 60 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: gets right. Okay, So I think a lot of you 61 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: agree with that Judging by my inbox, a lot of 62 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: you agree with that. So okay, well, Josh, why can't 63 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: we have that? Well, don't ask ESPN. Like, here's what 64 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do. I'm not going to look at 65 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 1: the one media company that was willing to bid big, 66 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: big money on the future of college football and its 67 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 1: playoff contract and hate on them. When you get behind 68 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 1: the scenes and you realize how really uncompetitive that bidding 69 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 1: process was, you notice two words you never heard in 70 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: this hole back and forth, in this whole drawn out 71 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:28,839 Speaker 1: drama about the college football playoff contract. You never heard 72 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: the words bidding war. It's like an NFL free agent 73 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: sometimes you hear those words, and recruiting sometimes we hear 74 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 1: those words. We did not hear those words when it 75 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: came to the college football playoff contract. It's because other 76 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: networks didn't step up to the plate like ESPN did. Now, 77 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: it's their money, it's not my money. So I'm not 78 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: going to sit here and shout from my front porch 79 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 1: how you should spend yours or you should spend yours. 80 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: But look, if it were a competitive marketplace and ESPN 81 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: had gobbled this thing up, that'd be one thing of course, 82 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 1: at that point I'd look at college football and say, 83 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: what are you guys doing? But when you got ESPN 84 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: offering what one point three billion I think a year 85 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: and reportedly no one else coming close to that, how 86 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: am I going to get mad at that? And that's 87 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: one compartment. The other compartment is, okay, is ESPN contributing 88 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 1: behind the scenes to taking away parts of the game 89 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: you like? Are they contributing to conference realignment? 90 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 2: This and that? 91 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 1: And I can't say no. I don't think that many 92 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: people can definitively say that either way. I hear things. 93 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: I probably hear more things than you guys. You guys 94 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 1: are working your jobs every day. You don't have time 95 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: to be in those weeds. I kind of am, but 96 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:34,279 Speaker 1: even then I'm not in the room. So you know, 97 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: I got my feelings on it. You got your beliefs 98 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 1: and feelings on it. We all hear hoof beats off 99 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: in the distance, but you never really know. And also, 100 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 1: if that is happening, there could be things beneath the 101 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:46,160 Speaker 1: surface that if you and I knew, would make a 102 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: whole lot more sense as to the way things play out. 103 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: So bottom line, we've got an expanded playoff coming one 104 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: network owns those rights. It is important to understand there 105 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 1: is a sub licensing claus in there, which just means 106 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:59,479 Speaker 1: if I run CBS and I want to buy a 107 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 1: first round game where pitt is coming to play Iowa 108 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 1: State in twenty twenty seven, I can buy that from ESPN. 109 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 1: So it probably will look like that. It probably won't 110 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 1: be every game exclusive on ESPN, but they will own 111 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 1: all the rights to those games. And that's the way 112 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 1: it is happy to have you guys with us. Make 113 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: sure you are subscribed to this YouTube channel and to 114 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 1: the pod, and make sure you do both because there 115 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 1: is exclusive content on each platform that you may not 116 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: get on the other platform. So I had a question 117 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: about Ryan Day and someone asked the other day we 118 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 1: were talking about Brian Kelly, and you asked, Hey, you've 119 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:34,039 Speaker 1: talked about folks hating on Brian Kelly just because he 120 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: doesn't have a national title? What about Ryan Day? And 121 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: you actually mentioned the words hot seat with Ryan Day. 122 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 1: I'm laughing because that's not the first time, nor is 123 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:44,919 Speaker 1: it the last time you and I will hear that 124 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: phraseology around the Ohio State head coach who has been 125 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 1: there five or six years now and has yet to 126 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 1: lose double digit games. Naturally, he's on the hot seat. 127 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 2: You know. 128 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:57,600 Speaker 1: I think that's BS, So I don't really train headlong 129 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 1: into that portion of the narrative. There is another portion, though, 130 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 1: that I'm happy to traffic him now. As much as 131 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 1: I like to push back against unrealistic expectations, I don't 132 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:15,840 Speaker 1: think it's unrealistic. If you stick the thermometer in the 133 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 1: expectation of the average Ohio State fan, you've got radicals 134 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 1: on either side. Okay, where if you don't go in 135 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 1: tofeed it every year, Let's get them out of here. 136 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: Let's find someone else that is not the norm amongst 137 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: any fan base Ohio State included. The norm amongst Ohio 138 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 1: State folks is it's totally unacceptable to be losing to 139 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 1: Michigan multiple years in a row. It's unacceptable for us 140 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:40,599 Speaker 1: to not be a Big Ten champion on average every 141 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: other year. Now with an expanded playoff, it's not acceptable 142 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: that we're not in there every year. Now, these are lofty, 143 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 1: those are extremely like rung one high level expectations. But 144 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 1: when I don't have a problem with it is when 145 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 1: you meet the expectation level on your side. So you 146 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 1: got a one hundred plus thousand seat stadium there. Is 147 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:02,919 Speaker 1: it sold out every Saturday? 148 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 2: Yeah? 149 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: It is. Do you get asked to contribute? Do you 150 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: get asked to open your checkbook and contribute? Yes? 151 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 2: Do you? 152 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: Yes? Is there passion coast to coast for your brand? Yes? 153 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: Is it represented well from a fans standpoint and engagement standpoint? 154 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: Is it represented well? Yes? Yes, yes, yes, yes. So 155 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 1: if you meet all those you got the right to 156 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 1: have high expectation. I don't really care where you are 157 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 1: within reason. You got the right to have high expectation. 158 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: The other thing is, I'll remind you guys, is we 159 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 1: had Ryan Day on the show last spring or summer, 160 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 1: and on that show he said I'm fine with the expectations, 161 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: and he said it off camera before we brought him 162 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: on camera. He said, yeah, I may worry about you 163 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: know how My family perceives it every now and then. 164 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: But folks are free to bang on me all they 165 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 1: want to. Doesn't mean it never affects me, but like 166 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 1: folks are free to do that. I get the job 167 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: I have, is what he said. But what i'd ask, 168 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 1: because Ryan Day's not in this room here, like what 169 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 1: I'd ask is just I'll tell you how I view it. 170 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: I think he's one of the best in the country 171 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: and is still very young, relatively speaking, still very new 172 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: at what he's doing. But he has been there a 173 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: little while now. Half a decade is not brand new. 174 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 1: I mean the newness has worn off of Ryan Day 175 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:17,480 Speaker 1: as a head coach. But I would ask this forget 176 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 1: about Ryan Day for a second, just talk generic head coach. 177 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 1: Do we all agree it's really hard to win at 178 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: the highest level period? I think we mostly agree with that, 179 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: although some places have advantages others don't have. But having 180 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: said that it's hard to win. Number two, do we 181 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: believe that the role of head coach in college football 182 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:40,959 Speaker 1: has evolved drastically over the past five years now? I 183 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 1: would say most of us would not our heads. Yes, okay, 184 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 1: so is it not then understandable again generically not talking 185 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 1: about a specific guy, that someone in his first years 186 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: being thrown into that culture, that climate could struggle to 187 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 1: get his footing. And I wouldn't even say Ryan Days struggled. 188 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 1: I mean the bounces of ball here and there. There's 189 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 1: a miss field goal last year at the end of 190 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: regulation against Georgia. That's probably the difference in me talking 191 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 1: about him still trying to prove himself to the same 192 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 1: crowd that would be celebrating his name had he won 193 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: a national championship. And the reality is, in scenario A 194 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 1: versus b there's no difference in Ryan Day the coach. 195 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 1: It's just an outcome oriented, I guess vacuum that we 196 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: live in. So here's the thing. They're going to be 197 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 1: favored to win the Big Ten this year. If you 198 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 1: nailed me down in March, which you legally do not 199 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 1: have the right to do, I would pick them to 200 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:31,199 Speaker 1: win the Big Ten this year. Going to be competitive. 201 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: Don't have to win the Big Ten to get in 202 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 1: the playoff, remember, because like half the country gets some 203 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 1: playoff now. But I think really highly of him, and 204 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 1: I think there is coming a day just like there 205 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 1: has been now with Kirby, just like there probably will 206 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: be with Landing, just like there probably will be with 207 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 1: Sark eventually where the same crowd that says they cannot 208 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 1: cannot cannot realizes, oh, it should have just been have 209 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 1: not because now they have so how dumb does it 210 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: look to have kicked Ryan Day off to the side, 211 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:01,079 Speaker 1: And I forget about him five years in, didn't have 212 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: a national title. Forget about him a little crazy, I 213 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 1: do not participate. Let's move it along. I got Matt 214 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: Campbell coming up in the show in mere moments actually, 215 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 1: and I think regardless of your affiliation, regardless of what 216 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 1: logo is on your respective polo, you're going to want 217 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: to hear what he had to say. It was really good, 218 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: really in depth with the head coach at Iowa State. 219 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:25,439 Speaker 1: So we got a lot of new teams in new 220 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 1: conferences this year, and a lot of you have been 221 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: asking is there any team out there joining a conference 222 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 1: that you would legitimately pick to win that conference this year? 223 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 1: And yeah, the answer maybe yes, So start in the SEC. 224 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 1: We called Oklahoma the other day one of the most 225 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 1: overlooked teams in college football. I mean that because a 226 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 1: lot of people are talking about them. Is as teetering 227 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 1: on the fringe of like bowl eligibility this year, and 228 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 1: they have a very difficult schedule. Everybody in that conference does. 229 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 1: But Oklahoma is a team that is a classic, probably 230 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: byproduct of Preview magazine culture sure, and that is that 231 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 1: thing where all you know is who left, all you 232 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 1: know is who they lost. Oklahoma lost x number of 233 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:12,439 Speaker 1: combined starts X number of starters on the offensive line. Okay, 234 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 1: well who do they replace them with? Oklahoma fans probably know, 235 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 1: and I'm not telling you they replaced them with studs. 236 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 1: But if you can't answer the follow up question, you 237 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 1: don't have a well rounded opinion of the team. And 238 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 1: with Oklahoma, I'm sitting here thinking to myself, well, they've 239 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 1: recruited and portaled at a top ten level. Every cycle 240 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 1: of vendables has been there. Could it just be they've 241 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: got some talent that the country doesn't know about yet 242 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: on that team beyond offensive line that we find out 243 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 1: about this year. I'm not pitching them to you to 244 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 1: win the conference per se. Texas could be a different story. 245 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 1: Texas has got a lot of portal editions that have 246 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 1: to pan out. If they hit it out of the 247 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: park with their portal editions, they'll be right there in contention. 248 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 1: So it'd surprised me if Oklahoma won the conference. It 249 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: would not surprise me if Texas did. And I don't 250 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: think that's a bold take at all. Oregon is the 251 00:11:57,280 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 1: second odds on favorite to win the Big Ten courtesy 252 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 1: a fan duel right now, So if you're shocked by them, 253 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 1: potentially going to Indianapolis, seventeen time zones away to play 254 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 1: in a conference title game and winning it. You're probably 255 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 1: not paying attention to roster development, talent acquisition, the odds market. Washington, 256 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 1: that's not happening, Ucla, that's not happening USC. I mean, 257 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 1: I'm still a believer in giving Lincoln Riley time with 258 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 1: a new philosophy. But if you're shifting philosophy and trying 259 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 1: to get tougher as you enter the Big ten, it's 260 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:34,599 Speaker 1: not a recipe necessarily that's conducive to me to you 261 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: win in a conference title. But if I'm wrong, we've 262 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 1: talked about how relatively workable their schedule is, then we'll see. 263 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 1: In the Big twelve, it's anybody's conference. I'm in ames 264 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:48,839 Speaker 1: Iowa today. They could win the conference this year. We 265 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 1: were at Kansas State yesterday. They could win the conference 266 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:55,319 Speaker 1: this year. Arizona, even having lost Jed Fish, they kept 267 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: a number of big time pieces on the roster. They 268 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 1: could win the conference this year in their new Iowa 269 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 1: states not new. Kansas State's not new, but the both 270 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 1: the Arizonas are new. Utah is the odds on favorite 271 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 1: to win the conference, per FanDuel and they just got 272 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 1: here five minutes ago. Colorado's here as well. They're down 273 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 1: the odds board a little bit. But I mean, you've 274 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:15,679 Speaker 1: got a couple of teams there in Utah and Arizona 275 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 1: that not only would it not be shocking, I'd be 276 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 1: surprised if they weren't figuring into the conference title race. 277 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:22,680 Speaker 1: And then in the ACC, it's got to be SMU 278 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 1: if it's going to be anyone, because you're not about 279 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 1: to sell you on calor Stanford just yet. SMU though 280 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 1: a little different, little different now, I know that you 281 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 1: haven't seen a team make the G five to power 282 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 1: whatever number it is now jump and be successful right 283 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: off the bat. They've got a little different caliber player 284 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 1: on their roster. So it's not a guarantee of anything. 285 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 1: Like Mema always said, ingredients in the kitchen do not 286 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: guarantee a good meal. Lack of ingredients guarantees a terrible 287 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 1: meal or starvation. So they do have some ingredients in there. 288 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 1: It is the ACC. There's no guarantee of what FSU 289 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 1: and Clemson are going to be like. There's no sure 290 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 1: fire like Georgia, a caliber team over there where you 291 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 1: can set your watch by them, so the ACC. That'd 292 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 1: be interesting though, because if SMU came into the SEC 293 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 1: essentially paying their own way by the way or ACC, 294 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 1: and they ended up winning the conference or even going 295 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 1: to the conference title game, that would be that would 296 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 1: be cost for celebration. And you can see all those 297 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 1: odds right now over at FanDuel. They are the exclusive 298 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 1: odds provider of our show. 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Take a listen to what he had to say. So, 336 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 1: I'm always fascinated when we start talking recruiting with head 337 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: coaches at major programs, there's infinite resources and maybe like 338 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 1: in the South especially, you're focused on you know, we 339 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 1: can put out our list or anyone's list, and you're 340 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 1: focused on guys that probably are ready to contribute physically 341 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 1: as freshmen. From your perspective, when you're talking more about 342 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: maybe a guy that is developmental, or you're looking and 343 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 1: trying to project not what he's going to be like 344 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 1: at eighteen, but maybe twenty years old, how is that different? 345 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 1: And how when you guys target players and recruit players, like, 346 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 1: how does that language and approach maybe change. 347 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I think for us, from day one, 348 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 3: we've always said number one in the recruiting process, we 349 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 3: got to find our kind of guys, and I think 350 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 3: we know Iowa State number one is unique in a 351 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 3: different place. I think Number two our process and how 352 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 3: we are going to get our young men from eighteen 353 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 3: to twenty two years old and be their best, become 354 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 3: that four and five star player at the end of 355 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 3: their career. We've always kind of revolved around the philosophy 356 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 3: of our kind of guy. And then you know, through 357 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 3: the recruiting journey, it can't just be man, what's the 358 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 3: highlight tape? 359 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:42,120 Speaker 2: To say, what's the highlight video of? Look like? What's 360 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:43,400 Speaker 2: he at his best? 361 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:46,159 Speaker 3: You know, we've looked for number one character, you know, 362 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 3: and I think that football character piece for us has 363 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 3: always been really big. And you know, what's it look 364 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:54,120 Speaker 3: like on a game video? What's it look like when 365 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:56,199 Speaker 3: you're not at your best? And how do you respond 366 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 3: to adversity? I think those things have been big for 367 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:01,680 Speaker 3: us in the recruiting journey. I think Number two love football, 368 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 3: you know. I think our place has always been a 369 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 3: place of we're going to be better when we have 370 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 3: juniors and seniors than we are when we're a team 371 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 3: of freshmen and sophomores. And you know, you've gotta love 372 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 3: football to stay the course. And I've always said it's 373 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 3: really hard in college football to become a senior, especially 374 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 3: today in college football, and you know, finding those guys 375 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,199 Speaker 3: that love the sports so much that they're willing to 376 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 3: grow and develop in things like nutrition and strength and conditioning, 377 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:29,640 Speaker 3: and you know, and then the fundamental and. 378 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 2: Craft that it takes to reach your full potential. 379 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 3: And then I think the last thing for us has 380 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:36,399 Speaker 3: always been understanding the value of academics. 381 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:39,880 Speaker 2: I still we're not pro sports. 382 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 3: Still today, we are a sport where the college piece, 383 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 3: the academic piece, has still got to be something really important. 384 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 3: And those guys have been the guys that have seen 385 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 3: to be able to thrive in our football program, and 386 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 3: we've really tried to do our due diligence around those values. 387 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:58,640 Speaker 1: You guys have a team probably coming back this year 388 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 1: that a lot of people here are really excited about. 389 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 1: I think as we get closer to the season, maybe 390 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 1: the whole preview magazine culture will start to catch on 391 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: to that. Anytime that's happening in this day and age, 392 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 1: you're worried about other staffs knowing that, and other staffs 393 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:15,919 Speaker 1: possibly looking to USA in all what's over there? And 394 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 1: yet and this is me talking, not you talking. I've 395 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 1: looked and I have seen minimal transfer portal talk around 396 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 1: Iowa State. And I see a lot of good players here. 397 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 1: We've been in the building all day, a lot of 398 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 1: good players. What is that balance like and just when 399 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 1: you know that's coming, how do you handle it well? 400 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 3: I think the neat thing for us is, you know, 401 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 3: it's been great to be somewhere that you have gone 402 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:45,160 Speaker 3: through the waves of success, and man that dip back 403 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 3: down and then success again. And so number one, how 404 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,920 Speaker 3: do you handle expectations? I think is really big And 405 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 3: I think that's one thing for us. We've had to 406 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 3: learn probably the hard way here at Iowa State, but 407 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 3: it's been a great learning process. I think number two 408 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 3: is the cultural pieces never changed. And I've always said 409 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:04,679 Speaker 3: I want to build a football program where young people 410 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 3: and their families feel confident that they can send their 411 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 3: young men to our program and they can feel confident 412 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 3: and safe in their journey of growth from eighteen to 413 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:16,400 Speaker 3: twenty two years old. And we've never shied away from that. Honestly, 414 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 3: even as you know our landscape in college football has changed, 415 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 3: We've doubled down on culture, and we've doubled down on 416 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 3: man a young man wanting to come here and feel 417 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:28,159 Speaker 3: confident to grow from. 418 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:29,879 Speaker 2: You know, the beginning part of their journey to the 419 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 2: end of their journey within our football program. 420 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 3: And a lot of things we can't control outside of us, 421 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 3: But I think what we can control inside of us, 422 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 3: how we build our program, how we build in and 423 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 3: care into our young people in our program. 424 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 2: That's been priority number one and that hasn't changed for us. 425 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 1: Back a couple of years ago, we brought the show 426 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:48,160 Speaker 1: up here for the Iowa game early in the year, 427 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 1: like one hundred and fourteen degrees that day, and that 428 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 1: season had a lot of high expectations, and I think 429 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:56,399 Speaker 1: it'd be safe to say probably in a lot of 430 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 1: ways you felt like you didn't reach the full potential 431 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 1: that year. So that would that would maybe be like 432 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 1: an unexpected dip when you get to the end of 433 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:05,880 Speaker 1: the road of a season and you know you didn't 434 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:09,400 Speaker 1: meet expectation, your internal expectation you didn't meet either. How 435 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 1: much is there? Hey, we've got to adhere to the 436 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:15,120 Speaker 1: process versus how much is there? Let's raise the hood, 437 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 1: let's look at everything, and yes, we've got core values 438 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 1: we're not going to change, but that we got to 439 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 1: do something about. 440 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 2: Well. 441 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 3: I think whether no matter what we've tried to at 442 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 3: the end of every season raise the hood and have 443 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,119 Speaker 3: those same questions and whether you felt like it was 444 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 3: a team that reached its full potential or didn't, you 445 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:38,360 Speaker 3: have to evaluate the season and be able to self reflect. 446 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,639 Speaker 3: It's just like we ask our kids to have no 447 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 3: ego in the journey and to be able to self 448 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 3: reflect and figure out where are those gaps that you 449 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 3: need to fill in. We have to do it, and 450 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:49,679 Speaker 3: that starts with me as the head football coach, and 451 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 3: then it goes to our assistant coaches, and then at 452 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 3: some point it's got to go back to our players. 453 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,160 Speaker 3: But if we don't do that, then I don't think 454 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 3: our kids can look at us with true trust and 455 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 3: who we are and have the ability to say, yeah, 456 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 3: you know what, coach is asking me to reevaluate and 457 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 3: to be able to fill in my gaps and he 458 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 3: doesn't have the ability to do that. And so I 459 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 3: think we've always tried to do that every year, and 460 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 3: twenty one is a great example. You know, it was 461 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 3: a year where we didn't reach our full potential, and 462 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 3: you know, there's a lot of that when you self 463 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 3: reflect that. I'm going to be the first one to 464 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 3: sit here and say, hey, listen, I didn't do a 465 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 3: great job as a head football coach. 466 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 2: There's some areas for me that I learned a lot 467 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 2: about what I've should have done or could have done better. 468 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 3: And you know, I've been able to take those lessons 469 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,479 Speaker 3: and continue to build into the next years into our 470 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 3: football program. So again, I think that's one of the 471 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 3: great things about being at a place now going into 472 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,679 Speaker 3: our night season is geez, we've kind of gone it. 473 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 3: We've had almost everything thrown our way, and we've been 474 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:46,400 Speaker 3: able to experience everything, especially here at I would state 475 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:49,120 Speaker 3: for the first time some of the great successes man 476 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 3: some dips. 477 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 2: And yet how do you handle that and how do 478 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:53,199 Speaker 2: you move yourself forward? 479 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 3: But that ability to self evaluate, Man, that hasn't changed 480 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 3: for us. We've really stuck to that. We've made changes 481 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 3: almost every year in our program. But the core philosophy 482 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:06,120 Speaker 3: love care, serve our players, man create a place where 483 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 3: young people feel confident, safe, proud to come into our 484 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 3: football program, and represent a football program the right way. 485 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 3: Those things have really stood true for us, and we're really. 486 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:14,880 Speaker 2: Proud of that. 487 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 1: I think one of the things people would be most 488 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:18,919 Speaker 1: fascinated to hear you talk about as much as you 489 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 1: can is when you start having some success, especially in 490 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,160 Speaker 1: your business, your name's always going to be out there. 491 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 1: Anytime jobs come open, your name's going to be out there. 492 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 1: And the traditional view is, well, if someone's here just 493 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,719 Speaker 1: an automatic, they'll go there, then there, then there. And 494 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 1: sometimes the public's perception of what elevation is matches yours. 495 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,439 Speaker 1: Other times you have a totally different mentality than what 496 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: the general public thinks. So the conversation around you has 497 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,159 Speaker 1: always been, hey, I wonder what Matt Campbell's going to 498 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,159 Speaker 1: do if I wonder when Matt Campbell's going to do this, 499 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 1: And yet you've been here and short of like internet rumors, 500 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 1: there's never been really serious traction to you not being here. 501 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 1: So could you walk people through as much as you 502 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:02,640 Speaker 1: can the thought press you have when you have opportunity. 503 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I think for me, and again, it's 504 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 3: been fascinating journey for me as a head football coach 505 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 3: because I became a head football coach at thirty two 506 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,880 Speaker 3: years old, you know, and probably wasn't ready. I don't 507 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,399 Speaker 3: know if any of us are. And you're always growing 508 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:18,920 Speaker 3: and I feel, you know, this is an area even 509 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 3: for myself that I feel like I've grown, you know, 510 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 3: tremendously over the course of time. And you know, I've 511 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,159 Speaker 3: been that guy where it's like, geez, should I be 512 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 3: climbing this this ladder of job to job at a 513 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:32,640 Speaker 3: really young age two. 514 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 2: You know, when we got to Iowa State and. 515 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 3: Have been able to build something different, and I know, 516 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 3: you know, for me, leaving the University of Toledo was 517 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 3: really hard, to be quite honest, you know, from Ohio. 518 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 2: My wife and I had never left Ohio at that time, 519 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 2: with three kids with a fourth on the. 520 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 3: Way, we had grandparents and family that were you know, 521 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,680 Speaker 3: anchors to us, and it was really hard to leave. 522 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 3: And you know, that was the first time I said, geez, 523 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 3: I don't know if this is what I want to do. 524 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 3: I want to be able to lay roots and build 525 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 3: something different and something that's really special, that can stand 526 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 3: for something. And I think when when Jamie Poller had 527 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,880 Speaker 3: come to talk about the Iowa stage job, that's kind 528 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,439 Speaker 3: of what he was looking for, something different and to 529 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 3: build something different, and you know, build it your way 530 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 3: how you envision building a football program. And you know, 531 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 3: I think that's the one gratitude that I have for 532 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 3: being the head coach. I walk in here every day 533 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 3: and I'm just be ungrateful to be the head football 534 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 3: coach that IOWA stayed and you know, we've been able 535 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 3: to build a program and build a program that I 536 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 3: really believe stands for something. And on top of that, 537 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 3: as we've had our successes and some of that outside 538 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 3: noises come in. You know, even personally, for me, I've 539 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 3: always gone back to the checklist of Number One, I 540 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:47,640 Speaker 3: wanted to be a great father. 541 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,639 Speaker 2: I want to be a great husband. I never wanted to, 542 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 2: you know. 543 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 3: Let the profession ruin what's the most important to me, 544 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 3: and that's my family. And number two, you'll want to 545 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 3: work for great people and with great people. And you know, 546 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 3: I think I'm really fortunate that, you know, we've got 547 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 3: great trust within our athletic department here, within our administration here, 548 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,199 Speaker 3: within our coaching staff here. That's been really important and 549 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,400 Speaker 3: it's a joy to come in every day and work 550 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 3: with people that are aligned to the same vision. And 551 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 3: then I think that the third part of it, which 552 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 3: is probably the most important part is what do you 553 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 3: stand for in this profession? You know, I think for me, 554 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 3: it's been I wanted to build something that allows young 555 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 3: people to feel confident and to feel trusted when they 556 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 3: come into our football program, that they can go through 557 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,439 Speaker 3: this profound transition that they're going through in life, eighteen 558 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,400 Speaker 3: years old, leaving home for the first time, getting into 559 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 3: this uber competitive environment and all of a sudden, you 560 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 3: want that support. You want that trust that your coach 561 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:46,199 Speaker 3: is going to be there, that these people are going 562 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 3: to be there, and they're building something that's going to 563 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:51,199 Speaker 3: support this journey that should change your life forever if 564 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 3: it's done correctly. And you know, I think that's something 565 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 3: that we've been really proud of because we've been able to. 566 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 2: Build that kind of football program here. 567 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 3: So really, as my own own journeys happened, I think 568 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 3: defining who are you, what do you want to stand for, 569 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 3: and what are the type of people that you want 570 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:07,879 Speaker 3: to surround yourself with, And we've been really fortunate to 571 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 3: be able to do that here at Iowa State. 572 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 1: A lot of people just notice Brock pretty played for 573 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 1: Super Bowl and he was once upon a time the 574 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 1: quarterback here. You guys had a kid by the name 575 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,679 Speaker 1: of Rocco Beck last year who started to attract more 576 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 1: and more attention as the season went on. So now 577 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 1: you get a full spring with him, you get another 578 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:28,360 Speaker 1: summer conditioning circuit with him. What kind of player can 579 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:28,919 Speaker 1: he be for you? 580 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 2: Yeah? 581 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 3: You know, I think the great thing I love about 582 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 3: Rocco and probably very similar to Brock. To play quarterback 583 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 3: at this level, one of the unique traits I really 584 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 3: believe you have to have is you got to know 585 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 3: who you. 586 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 2: Are as a human being. 587 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,159 Speaker 3: And for a young eighteen, nineteen twenty year old to 588 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,400 Speaker 3: know that, that's really hard. But you know, Brock had 589 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,520 Speaker 3: that great trait, and I think as you've watched his 590 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 3: success at Iowa State and certainly what he's done in 591 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 3: the National Football League, he's never wavered from who he is. 592 00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 3: And I think that's the unique thing about Rocco is, 593 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 3: you know, he's really stepped in from day one on campus. 594 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 3: He knew who he was, knows who he is, knows 595 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 3: what he stands for. And I think what that's done 596 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 3: is it's allowed people to be attracted to him when 597 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,439 Speaker 3: he steps into that critical leadership position. And you know, 598 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 3: I think Rocco's got such great traits. You see, he's 599 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,879 Speaker 3: got great arm strength, he's such an accurate thrower of 600 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 3: the football. But most importantly, he's got great command of 601 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,680 Speaker 3: the football team. Our guys, our players, believe in Rocko 602 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,399 Speaker 3: back and it's fun to build a football team around 603 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,199 Speaker 3: guys like that. That man, there's great belief in the 604 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,399 Speaker 3: human being first, and then all those other traits really 605 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 3: come to fruition, and Roco's got great traits to continue 606 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 3: to come to fruition. 607 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 2: But we're really proud of who he is. 608 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 1: You've got a kind of unique vantage point on the 609 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 1: sport because you are a head coach at a major program. 610 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 1: So if someone were to hop on the elevator with 611 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 1: you and you got like a minute and a half 612 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 1: with him, and they said, hey, coach, how you feel 613 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 1: about college football overall? Right now? What would you tell him? 614 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I think our sport is in transition, 615 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 3: and I would say it's a very transient time. And 616 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 3: you know, to me, this is a very transformational experience, 617 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 3: and so I still would I would tell people that 618 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 3: beware of transient and I think when things are in 619 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 3: transition that that's really tough and That's why I feel 620 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 3: like for all college football programs, you hope that the 621 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 3: foundation of understanding that we're dealing with a very transformational 622 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 3: time with eighteen to twenty two year olds and such 623 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 3: a critical time in their life. 624 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 2: That that's got to be continue to be our priority. 625 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 2: As so much transition happens around our sport. 626 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 1: Do you ever look at the player experience with all 627 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 1: the other noise? I mean, people are talking about playoff expansion, 628 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 1: media right, steals inil portal, and yet at any given 629 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 1: point you've got four classes of kids on your roster. 630 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 1: They're only going to come through college once and like, 631 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 1: whatever happens in the future, this is their college experience. 632 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 1: Do you like, how much time do you spend thinking 633 00:29:58,720 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 1: about that? 634 00:29:59,440 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 2: Well? 635 00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 3: I I spend a lot of time on that because 636 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 3: to me, the number one responsibility that we have in 637 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 3: our job, and I do get it winning football games 638 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 3: is important, but still the number one priority is we 639 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 3: do have somebody son and these are eighteen to twenty 640 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 3: two year olds that are growing from young man to 641 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 3: man and a really critical time in their life. And 642 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 3: you know, I know, we put you know so much, 643 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 3: you know so much into the stock of winning an 644 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 3: old cost, but the reality the cost is eighteen to 645 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 3: twenty two year olds, and our responsibility is still to 646 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 3: grow these young men into men. And so I think 647 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 3: finding that balance in our job but yet also understanding 648 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 3: that it is critical and yes, as transition is happening 649 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 3: around us, these young men are living a life right 650 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 3: now that is such a transformational time in their life, 651 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 3: and our job should be helping them achieve their goals 652 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 3: and dreams on and off the field. And so I 653 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 3: think for us it's such a unique balance right now. 654 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 3: But I think we can can't forget the most most 655 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 3: important piece of what we're leading and what we're leading 656 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 3: as the young men in our locker room. 657 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 1: If you guys are in spring practice right now, you've 658 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 1: got as we're recording, you've got practice later today. Actually, 659 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 1: And I'm always curious, like when you structure a spring, 660 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 1: I know that you want to focus on development, and 661 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 1: there are certain buckets you're going to fill every practice, 662 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 1: and there are certain buckets you're gonna feel every spring, 663 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:26,960 Speaker 1: But what are the things maybe two or three that 664 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 1: you have circled in red sharpie that there's an ultra 665 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 1: serious focus on right now? 666 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 3: Well, I think last year, we've kind of realigned ourselves 667 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 3: to what our program needs to look like as a 668 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 3: football team. You know, things like the competitiveness, things like 669 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 3: you know, taking care of the football, and you know, 670 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 3: the way we play the game. I think we realign 671 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 3: ourselves to those value systems, and now it's building the 672 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 3: depth and having absolute clarity for our football team by 673 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 3: the time we get out of spring practice of you know, 674 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 3: number one, where are you you and your individual journey 675 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 3: as a football player? 676 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 2: You know where are your gaps? 677 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 3: How do we continue to fill those in so we 678 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 3: can be our best team by the time we get 679 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 3: to August. I think number two, as coaches, you know 680 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 3: where is our foundational offense, defense, and special team schemes? 681 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 3: Where are we at with those? Where are our gaps? 682 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,479 Speaker 3: And then number three, let's have a collective view of 683 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 3: what our football team really looks like. You know, I've 684 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 3: said a lot here, players, formations, plays, We'll be our 685 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 3: best as a football team in all three phases. When 686 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 3: we know who our players are, we make sure we 687 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 3: put good formations around them to identify their strengths, and 688 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 3: then call the plays to make sure we're essentially to 689 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 3: the strength of our football team. 690 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 2: Let's get to the. 691 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 3: End of spring practice and let's make sure we know 692 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 3: what this football team looks like. So and by the 693 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 3: time we get to the summer in fall camp, we're 694 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 3: making sure our schemes are tailor made to our players. 695 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 2: And so we've been our best year as a football program. 696 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:52,560 Speaker 3: We've been able to do that, and I think it's 697 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 3: exciting for us because we know we've got some really 698 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 3: good football players coming back here. We know we've got 699 00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 3: a really good foundation. Now we can build in that 700 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 3: for foundation and make sure we're aligned going forward by 701 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 3: the time we get the Vaulcan. 702 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 1: We've been treated phenomenally here from the entire crew. We 703 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 1: appreciate it. Matt Campbell, thank you very much. 704 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 2: Happy to have you on. Yeah, aunor thank you. 705 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 1: Excellent, excellent stuff. 706 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 2: Look at that branding. 707 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 1: Excellent stuff from the head coach here at Iowa State. 708 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 1: We loved being up here, as you can tell, even 709 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 1: though we're airing right now and the sun is probably 710 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 1: down where you are. Probably we respect our Hawaiian market, 711 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,479 Speaker 1: we really do, but elsewhere it's probably dark. 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