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Speaker 1: Hey, Welcome in, Happy New year, everybody. Welcome to the

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Speaker 1: Thursday edition of the Official Cults Podcast, and he closed

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Speaker 1: out the regular Beef and eighteen.

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Speaker 2: Bill Brooks is here, Casey Vallier. I'm Matt Taylor. Thanks

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Speaker 2: you for joining in, whether it's on YouTube or the

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Speaker 2: Colts Audio Network video or just audio.

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Speaker 1: Billy b Casey, thanks for being here as always, Bill,

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Speaker 1: How did you ring in the New Year?

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Speaker 2: A couple of nights ago?

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Speaker 3: How did I ring in the New Year?

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Speaker 4: Well, actually, at around ten o'clock I had fell asleep

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Speaker 4: on the couch. Then my wife woke me up and said,

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Speaker 4: you know, you have to stay up until twelve o'clock.

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Speaker 4: You gave me a little nudge and said we have

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Speaker 4: to toast at twelve o'clock there.

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Speaker 3: So we had a little toast and hugged and you know,

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Speaker 3: brought in.

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Speaker 2: A new year and just went back to dreamland.

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Speaker 4: And then I went back to dreamland and we both

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Speaker 4: got up the next morning and just have a regularly

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Speaker 4: good New Year's Day.

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Speaker 1: It's just a Wednesday, straight and simple, baby, straight and simple.

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Speaker 2: Case how about you?

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Speaker 4: Man?

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Speaker 5: It was it was funny. My uh my oldest son.

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Speaker 6: So I have I have seven year old, twins boy

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Speaker 6: and a girl, My my daughter and my five year old.

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Speaker 5: They were asleep early.

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Speaker 6: My seven year old was He was like, I'm staying up, dad,

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna see this whole thing through. We watched the

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Speaker 6: ball drop and he goes, okay, what now.

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Speaker 5: I said, that's it.

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Speaker 2: I got nothing for you. And whistles are supposed to

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Speaker 2: go off.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: He was like, wow, must be a parade down the

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Speaker 2: street or something.

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Speaker 6: He was hoping for fireworks outside and said, in New

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Speaker 6: York they got the fireworks that were watching.

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Speaker 5: I said, that probably gonna be.

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Speaker 1: It's so anti because you watch it on TV and

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Speaker 1: then you get the Jonas brothers.

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Speaker 2: How we're gonna kick off twenty twenty five. No disrespect

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Speaker 2: to the Jonas brothers, but I mean, you know, right hey,

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Speaker 2: you know, to each their own. I suppose me got same. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: just you know, twelve oh two.

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Speaker 1: I said, all right, good night out tomorrow, punching out baby.

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Speaker 2: That's where we're at, all right, we got a busy

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Speaker 2: show today.

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Speaker 1: We're talking about where this the you know, the state

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Speaker 1: of the Colts, where this team is at. You know,

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Speaker 1: unfortunately the playoffs aren't on the table any longer after

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Speaker 1: a very disappointing loss to the New York Giants last week,

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Speaker 1: forty five to thirty three. Let me try that again.

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Speaker 1: Forty five to thirty three. Easy for me to say.

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna talk about some of the hard truths

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Speaker 1: for this team now, you know, some of the realities

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Speaker 1: that they faced going into the twenty twenty five offseason. Also,

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Speaker 1: Alec Pierce is going to join us on the podcast today.

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Speaker 1: Great nugget here that Alec he's got a chance to

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Speaker 1: become the first NFL receiver, right, I should say any

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Speaker 1: NFL player right, more broader scope, but can become the

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Speaker 1: first player in the NFL to average over twenty one

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Speaker 1: yards per catch since twenty ten. Fair to guess who

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Speaker 1: those players were. Two guys did it that year twenty ten.

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Speaker 1: You have to go back in the way back machine.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna.

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Speaker 2: One I plays Jackson. One guy played for the Eagles.

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Speaker 1: The other guy played for the Steelers, so he had

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Speaker 1: an all Philly big play year that year.

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Speaker 2: It was Mike Wallace. Mike Wallace.

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Speaker 3: I wanted to guess that.

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Speaker 6: I was thinking, you know, Santonio Holmes, Yeah, yeah, but yeah,

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Speaker 6: Mike William those are those are guys that definitely the

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Speaker 6: deep ball was there and and Alex is in some

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Speaker 1: High school version of you would be disappointed, but to

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Speaker 1: not be able to get that answer. Also, we're going

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Speaker 1: to close out the show talking about where is Anthony

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Speaker 1: And the Colts held a walk through on Wednesday. We're

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Speaker 1: taping this on Thursday, and the practice report as of

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Speaker 1: Wednesday says that Anthony Richardson is still d n P

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Speaker 1: in practice, so has missed out on four straight practices

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Speaker 1: here in the late part of the season. But I

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Speaker 1: want to talk about these hard truths for the Colts

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Speaker 1: and kind of set them up for you guys, and

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Speaker 1: we're going to debate again the harsh realities of this team.

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Speaker 1: So now it's four straight years for the Colts missing

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Speaker 1: out on the playoffs. That's going to be the longest

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Speaker 1: drought for the team since they missed out in the postseason.

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Speaker 2: From nineteen eighty eight to nineteen ninety four.

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Speaker 1: That loss last week also confirms the Colts are going

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Speaker 1: time in three years, and now they're going to be

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Speaker 1: without a playoff win for the sixth straight season. So

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Speaker 1: when you look at this season in totality, Casey and

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Speaker 1: then Bill, if you want to chime into wherever you want,

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Speaker 1: this is just I mean, this is like a psychotherapy,

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Speaker 1: like sit on the couch and just get out of

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Speaker 1: your system. I think that's what a lot of Colts

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Speaker 1: right now. I mean, how many miss chances for this

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Speaker 1: team this year? Obviously last week was very disappointing. That

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Speaker 1: was kind of the straw that breaks the camel's back.

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Speaker 1: But which game stings the most? And unfortunately, Casey, you

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Speaker 6: Yeah, there's a couple that come to mind. I think

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Speaker 6: ultimately where I start, it's the division. It's losing the

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Speaker 6: they were own four, and it looked like, you know,

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Speaker 6: then one of those two games against Houston, you lost

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Speaker 6: you look at the way that Houston is playing down

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Speaker 6: into account. You know, the game where you play the

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Speaker 6: loss to Denver where you have that big lead, we

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Speaker 6: I go to those divisional games because they just mean

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Speaker 1: And the best they're going to do is ten wins, right,

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Speaker 1: and that's that's very achievable, but very very hard.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly for me. I I'm gonna go back to

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Speaker 4: one of the games you mentioned. I'm gonna go back

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Speaker 4: to the Green Bay game. Milik Willis is playing. He

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he just got there.

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Speaker 4: So then you go against the Green Bay Packers. They

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Speaker 2: Game as a team the first half.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you can't.

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Speaker 4: Stop them, so to me, that was a game I

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Speaker 4: game for me is a Denver game. I think if

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Speaker 4: you do what you're supposed to do. You have an

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Speaker 4: you control your own destiny after that as far as

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Speaker 3: So to me, I think that was a big game in.

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Speaker 2: Which that's a great point.

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Speaker 3: So that yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 4: So it's one of those things I think that game

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Speaker 3: So you hurt yourself in that sense.

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Speaker 4: In REGARDSS of the Denver Broncos game, So to me,

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Speaker 4: the Broncos game was the one that really really stands

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Speaker 1: Yeah, in all of those games, within them, you can

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Speaker 1: say lack of complimentary football. One side of the football

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Speaker 1: to varying degrees. You know, you talk about that Green

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Speaker 1: lost that game sixteen to ten. The defense was horrible

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Speaker 1: in the first half, right, But even if they have

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Speaker 1: they can win. That's a very winnable game in a

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Speaker 1: You look at the Denver game, right where the defense

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Speaker 1: two games this year where Joe Flacco is quarterback this

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Speaker 1: team and put up over thirty points, yeah, and over

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Speaker 1: three hundred yards of offense, the defense can't stop two

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Speaker 1: those teams scored season highs against this Colts defense. So

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Speaker 1: that's where I think Colts fans are really frustrated, is

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Speaker 1: that all season long, we're sixteen, well, seventeen games, wait,

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Speaker 1: sixteen games out of seventeen and an eighteen game or

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Speaker 1: eighteen week schedule. They should say, gosh, darn, it's just

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Speaker 1: that we're still here, we're still talking about, you know,

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Speaker 1: trying to put this sixty minute game together, and unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: too many of those loss opportunities dooms this team from

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Speaker 1: being able to make the playoffs. And that's going to

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Speaker 1: be you know the story of this team this year

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Speaker 1: is that the lack of complimentary football on a week

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's it's hard to really fathom because last week

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Speaker 6: was the literally the perfect picture of what the Colts

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Speaker 6: season was. I mean, Joe Flacco goes out and has

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Speaker 6: he does everything right offensively. I mean, you had one punt,

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Speaker 6: Rigo had one punt and you lose a game.

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Speaker 5: Typically that doesn't happen.

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Speaker 6: But when you look at what Drew Locke was able

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Speaker 6: to do. This is a guy who's bounced around. He

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Speaker 6: has been a backup quarterback. He has not been you know,

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Speaker 6: they made him look like Joe Montana last week. And

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Speaker 6: that is something that there are a lot of look

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Speaker 6: in the mere moments, this Colt team's gonna have to

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Speaker 6: do over the next you know, months, because you cannot

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Speaker 6: continue to do that and try and be a playoff

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And also one more thing you look at top more

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Speaker 4: complimentary football. Special teams give a big kickoff return.

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Speaker 2: That starts the second half the Denver game. You had those.

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Speaker 5: Yea, So those.

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Speaker 3: Things hurt you.

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Speaker 4: I mean, if you can't play complimentary football in all

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Speaker 4: three phases, it's going to eventually catch up with you.

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Speaker 1: So that's hard truth number one talking about all of

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Speaker 1: that the culture within the organization has really come under

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Speaker 1: fire these last couple of days, and it's really come

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Speaker 3: When you don't address it right away and let it

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Speaker 1: And attention to detail is everything, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's all concerning really.

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Speaker 6: I mean you think about you know, I love the

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Speaker 6: It's it is concerning. There's no other way to look

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Speaker 5: Gonna get things solved.

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Speaker 4: Oh by far, I mean that's not on my head.

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Speaker 2: And you can't fool the locker room.

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Speaker 3: No, you can't see. That's what I was saying earlier.

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Speaker 3: The players know you cannot.

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Speaker 1: Like if you're showing up five to seven minutes late,

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Speaker 2: What I'm just saying.

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Speaker 2: Get away with that. And it's going to add up.

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Speaker 1: It's going to add up to the sense where you

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Speaker 1: So like all the little things add up to big things,

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Speaker 3: The players know.

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Speaker 4: The players know who's paying attention to the meetings, The

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Speaker 1: Those guys know absolutely all right, that's hard truth Number two.

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Speaker 1: We talked about a little bit on defense, you know,

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Speaker 1: I think that's the frustrating part, Like, I don't have

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Speaker 4: Right, It's hard to find the answer, especially when you

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Speaker 4: it's just seems like continuously they just if it's mistackles

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Speaker 4: I mean, you know, they give up over three hundred

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so those are the thing numbers actually coming down.

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Speaker 4: That's come right exactly from what it was. So it's

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Speaker 4: You hope it would improve with the veterans on the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you mean you talk about reality this case. I mean,

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Speaker 5: Good, and way to get his stats.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's all hard.

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Speaker 6: The you know, the one thing that always gets me

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Speaker 6: back to when you look at the numbers, and I

442
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Speaker 6: love that you mentioned earlier that there's too much individual

443
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Speaker 6: talent defensively, Well, let's.

444
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Speaker 2: Just go through it.

445
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Speaker 1: Buckner Stewart the best defensive in the game, right, I

446
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Speaker 1: think you have above average players and Quitty pay and

447
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Speaker 1: Samson Ebbacom when he's healthy.

448
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Speaker 2: Obviously he's right.

449
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Speaker 1: You know, I probably shouldn't even brought him up this

450
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Speaker 1: year because he hasn't played a single down. But I

451
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Speaker 1: just mean, like in the future, you've got a player

452
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Speaker 1: like that that you can build around. He's still under contract.

453
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Speaker 1: I mean, I think Zaire Franklin and e J. Speed

454
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Speaker 1: are two really good linebackers. I think they've struggled in

455
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Speaker 1: coverage in the middle of the field this year. In

456
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Speaker 1: the back end, you've got Pro Bowl players and Pro

457
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Speaker 1: Bowl caliber players and Julian Blackman and Kenny Moore the

458
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Speaker 1: second That's why it's so mystifying.

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Speaker 6: And that's where I wanted to go, is they're all here,

460
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Speaker 6: they're all active, and they're all playing. I mean, you

461
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Speaker 6: have the loss of Juju Brent, who you counted on

462
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Speaker 6: to be kind of your second corner, but I think

463
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Speaker 6: we would all agree that Jalen Jones has played very

464
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Speaker 6: very well, and same with Samuel Womack. So you lost Juju,

465
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Speaker 6: but you didn't really feel like you lost too much

466
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Speaker 6: because of the play that everybody else stepped in. You

467
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Speaker 6: mentioned the linebackers. They played essentially every game. EJ missed

468
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Speaker 6: a couple, but really Samson Ebucom is the only real

469
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Speaker 6: guy that you were counting on a lot that you

470
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Speaker 6: didn't see the production from the guys stepping in.

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Speaker 5: So you put all of that.

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Speaker 6: That's where the biggest area that I scratched my head at,

473
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Speaker 6: because you have very talented players, and in some of

474
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Speaker 6: their own regards, they're having great years. I mean, I

475
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Speaker 6: think DeForest Buckner, he missed essentially six games, but he

476
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Speaker 6: put up a great season, Zire Franklin just got named

477
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Speaker 6: to his first Pro Bowl, Kenny Moore looked like Kenny Moore.

478
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Speaker 6: And yet it's not able to come together and have

479
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Speaker 6: the total defense like you need it to be. So

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Speaker 6: it's definitely something that I can't wrap my mind around

481
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Speaker 6: the reasons why it didn't make this defense better.

482
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Speaker 5: But it definitely didn't.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt about it. I mean that's that's a

484
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Speaker 2: really tough discussion. It really is.

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Speaker 1: That's the whole essence of the second.

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Speaker 4: But it's hard as also, like you said, it's hard

487
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Speaker 4: to find an answer. What is the answer why the

488
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Speaker 4: team has played that way? From a defensive standpoint, it's

489
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Speaker 4: tough to find answer. I mean this things be say,

490
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Speaker 4: you know, they're not this and on the run and

491
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Speaker 4: not this against the past, but what is the reason why,

492
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Speaker 4: what's the reason why these talented individuals which they all

493
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Speaker 4: all all are talented and they play hard, but it

494
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Speaker 4: just didn't show up on the field enough.

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Speaker 6: And this is where you know the you know, you

496
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Speaker 6: go to social media and you hear blow it up,

497
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Speaker 6: you know, get rid of the I mean, you got

498
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Speaker 6: the pieces in place, you know, we just laid out

499
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Speaker 6: the guy. I mean, it's hard to look at this,

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Speaker 6: especially if we're sticking defensively. You look at the roster

501
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Speaker 6: and you say, Okay, I don't want that guy. Who

502
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Speaker 6: are those guys? Because you you've got the pieces in place.

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Speaker 1: It's and you also signed a lot of them in

504
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Speaker 1: the off season brought them back. And also keep in mind,

505
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Speaker 1: like if you blow the whole thing up, it's hard

506
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Speaker 1: to replace.

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Speaker 2: Sason exactly.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna take time.

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Speaker 5: I mean, it's it is a head scratching thing.

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Speaker 6: And you know, I'm glad you brought up Gus Bradley

511
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Speaker 6: tip of the cap for him to acknowledge what happened,

512
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Speaker 6: because you know, at the end of the day, Gus

513
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Speaker 6: Bradley has been a a very good defensive mind for

514
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Speaker 6: a long time in this league. So you had all

515
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Speaker 6: of that with a veteran defensive coordinator who has had success.

516
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Speaker 6: It's all just it is something where I'm sure I

517
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Speaker 6: don't have the answer.

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Speaker 5: Bill, You probably don't have the answer. I don't know

519
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Speaker 5: what you do.

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Speaker 6: It's very difficult to figure out how to make this

521
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Speaker 6: defense not be in the bottom and all of those

522
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Speaker 6: major categories, which is kind of in essence the reason

523
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Speaker 6: why you're struggling to make the postseason year in year

524
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Speaker 6: out of the last handful of years because that consistency

525
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Speaker 6: defensively just hasn't been there.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well, those are the hard truths right there, three of

528
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Speaker 1: them that you know the cults are having to deal

529
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Speaker 1: with in terms of realities. Let's go one positive hard truth.

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Speaker 1: Alec Pierce is a stud yes career high seven hundred.

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Speaker 2: And sixty seven yards. Let's pivot.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about some positive things the Colts can build

533
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Speaker 1: on going into Week eighteen. Trying to close out the

534
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Speaker 1: season strong against the Jacksonville Jaguars. Number fourteen definitely qualifies,

535
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Speaker 1: or I should say be as a he should be

536
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Speaker 1: placed in that bucket. And we talked earlier today on

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Speaker 1: the Official Colts Podcast about his great season and how

538
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Speaker 1: he's trying to close out the season strong. All right,

539
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Speaker 1: let's get it going now with Colts wide receiver Alec Pierce,

540
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Speaker 1: who's fresh off six catches, one hundred and twenty two

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Speaker 1: yards and a touchdown against the New York Giants last week.

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Speaker 2: Alec, huge game for you.

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Speaker 1: What what wouldn't do that huge performance last Sunday?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: Just you know, just I think I got a lot

546
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Speaker 8: of opportunities early in the game, and we had some

547
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Speaker 8: good schemes caught up and Joe just gave me good opportunities,

548
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Speaker 8: and you know, I tried to make the plays for

549
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Speaker 8: the team.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, on the season, seven hundred and sixty

551
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Speaker 1: seven yards career high for you. I know you're not

552
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Speaker 1: thinking about that now. You're gonna have more time starting

553
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Speaker 1: next week to begin reflecting on that. But what what

554
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Speaker 1: have you made of this third year in the NFL,

555
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Speaker 1: your growth that's led to career highs in terms of output.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I've just been trying to, you know, take things

557
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Speaker 8: day by day and really focused on making the most

558
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Speaker 8: of every opportunity given to me, you know, controlling and

559
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Speaker 8: controls and just every time I get a chance to

560
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Speaker 8: whether it's in practice or in the game, because really

561
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Speaker 8: it all starts in practice.

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Speaker 7: You make the play and practice and more likely to

563
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Speaker 7: call it in a game.

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Speaker 8: So that's really kind of started from OTA's in camp

565
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Speaker 8: and just carried on to the season.

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Speaker 1: On the season, you're averaging twenty one point nine yards

567
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Speaker 1: per catch. If you can hold that up on Sunday,

568
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Speaker 1: which there's no doubt you can, you will be the

569
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Speaker 1: first player in the NFL to average over twenty one

570
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Speaker 1: yards per catch since twenty ten. How important are those explosives?

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Speaker 1: You know, we talk about it every single year. Got

572
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Speaker 1: to get those chunk plays right. It's hard to score

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Speaker 1: on ten, twelve, fourteen play drives, those explosive plays in

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Speaker 1: terms of what you can add to this offense. How

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Speaker 1: imperative are those.

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Speaker 7: They're super important, you know.

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Speaker 8: That's that's something I take pride in myself is being

578
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Speaker 8: an explosive threat. You know, someone who can just instantly

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Speaker 8: change the game, change the change the drive, get you know,

580
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Speaker 8: basically a spark plug, you know, get things gone, start

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Speaker 8: things up. So you know, that's that's I'm just happy

582
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Speaker 8: I'm been able to do that this year. You know,

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Speaker 8: I think the coaches have done a good job kind

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Speaker 8: of scheming some different types of things up to get

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Speaker 8: deep and get down the field. And then you know,

586
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Speaker 8: the quarterbacks have been on the money with the ball

587
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Speaker 8: all year. And then obviously too, it takes it takes

588
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Speaker 8: a protection for those those deep shots. It's usually gonna

589
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Speaker 8: be a little bit longer quarterbacks can be back there

590
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Speaker 8: patting the.

591
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Speaker 7: Ball a little bit.

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Speaker 8: So that speaks to the O line and running backs

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Speaker 8: and everyone just protecting tight ends.

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Speaker 1: So you know, those deep shots, whether they're down the

595
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Speaker 1: sideline or in the middle of the field. You know,

596
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Speaker 1: we call them fifty to fifty balls, but for you,

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Speaker 1: I mean they're more like eighty twenty ninety ten. I mean,

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Speaker 1: what is your confidence level? I mean, you've got to

599
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Speaker 1: have the skill and the physical assets to be able

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Speaker 1: to go and make those plays, which you do, but

601
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Speaker 1: you also have to have a belief. What's your confidence

602
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Speaker 1: level in yourself to be able to routinely as you do,

603
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Speaker 1: haul those big plays.

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Speaker 7: In Yeah, you're very confident, you know.

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Speaker 8: I always kind of I pride myself on like and

606
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Speaker 8: I always tell the quarterbacks it's like, you throw the

607
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Speaker 8: ball to me, like, it's either gonna be I'm gonna

608
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Speaker 8: catch it, be a pass interference, or at worst it's

609
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Speaker 8: just gonna be incomplete.

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Speaker 2: Which was the case.

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Speaker 1: And you you also had a forty four yard pass

612
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Speaker 1: interference penalty against.

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Speaker 7: I should have caught that ball. Yeah, no, it's it's

614
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Speaker 7: I definitely.

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Speaker 5: You know.

616
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Speaker 8: The one thing that's scarce coaches and quarterbacks from throwing

617
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Speaker 8: the ball like downfield to you is an interception.

618
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Speaker 5: The risks.

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Speaker 8: So yeah, so I always I always just try to

620
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Speaker 8: make sure, like I let him know, like it's I'm

621
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Speaker 8: not gonna let that happen, Like as long as it's

622
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Speaker 8: up to me, as long as it's not like the

623
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Speaker 8: safety comes flying in and fike it off, you know,

624
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Speaker 8: but if it's one on one cornerback, like, I'm gonna

625
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 8: make sure I do everything I can to not let

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Speaker 8: him catch the ball.

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Speaker 1: You know, Joe Flacco is a really good deep ball thrower.

628
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson is too, But earlier this week, I asked

629
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Speaker 1: Joe about those types of plays and throwing the ball

630
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 1: up to you and how important those are and you

631
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Speaker 1: know what goes into taking those shots, and he had

632
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Speaker 1: a really interesting quote. He said, the offense isn't good

633
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Speaker 1: because we're explosive. We're explosive because the offense is good.

634
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 1: We do all the little things right that open the

635
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Speaker 1: door for those deep shots. What what do you think

636
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Speaker 1: he means by that.

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Speaker 8: I think he means, like, you know, those deep shots

638
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 8: take a lot of sudden up to do. So we've

639
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 8: been running the ball well and then you know, I

640
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,239
Speaker 8: think we did give a good play fake. A lot

641
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 8: of times there's play action that we're hitting deep. So

642
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 8: you know, the defense is ready for the run. They

643
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 8: play action gets them a little bit right, and then

644
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Speaker 8: the you know, obviously the upfront they got to be

645
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 8: good to protect that long So it kind of takes

646
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 8: a whole you know, it's not just the deep shot,

647
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Speaker 8: it's not just explosive play. It's like the whole offense

648
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Speaker 8: and even the plays before that setting it up all.

649
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Speaker 1: Right, last couple of things with Alec Pierce with US

650
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 1: Week eight teams here, I know it's a difficult balance

651
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:37,719
Speaker 1: to know the fact that you're not going to make

652
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Speaker 1: the playoffs, but also you got to close out the

653
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 1: season strong, right, You've got to get a win to

654
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Speaker 1: set the tone for what hopefully is a really good

655
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Speaker 1: and productive offseason. What's what's that mindset? And how difficult

656
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Speaker 1: is it to balance those things on a tough week again,

657
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 1: knowing that the postseason just not a reality for this team.

658
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Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, we kind of talked about a little

659
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Speaker 8: bit as a team, but just you know, we can't

660
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 8: can't control us in the past. What we got is

661
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 8: this one last opportunity left and you know the nature

662
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 8: of this league, but it's not We're not gonna be

663
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 8: the same team next year. It's just one last opportunity

664
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 8: to go out here right as teammates and you know,

665
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 8: get a win in lucas Ol.

666
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, with that in mind too.

667
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 1: Again, you know, the finality of the seasons coming up

668
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 1: on Sunday. How tough is it to come to realization

669
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 1: that a lot of these guys in this locker room.

670
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 1: I mean you go to battle with man, you guys

671
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 1: spend nine ten hours a day around each other and

672
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 1: you've been doing that now for six and a half months.

673
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 1: How tough is it to realize that some of these

674
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 1: guys that you do that with just aren't going to

675
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 1: be back in this locker room next year.

676
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 2: That's just the nature of the beast.

677
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's it's tough, but you know that's the reality

678
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 7: of football.

679
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 8: Dealt with that for yeah, you know, even going back

680
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 8: to college, high school, you know people team changes every year.

681
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 7: So yeah, it's tough, but you know it's what it is.

682
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 2: No question about it.

683
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 1: Lastly, again, I only ask you this question because you

684
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 1: know the conclusion of the season comes after Week eighteen?

685
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 1: How will you balance the offseason? But what are some

686
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 1: things that you want to you know, fine tune and

687
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 1: get into a rhythm to improve upon what you've already

688
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 1: established in three years.

689
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, just I want to work on a

690
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 8: lot of things training wise, receiver receiver wise. You know,

691
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 8: I was pretty proud. I think I got a little

692
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 8: bit stronger last year and I think it helped my play.

693
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 8: So you know, that'll just remain an emphasis getting in

694
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 8: the gym, getting faster, stronger, But then just receiver wise,

695
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 8: like I want to get better after the catch. I

696
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 8: want to get better on like the short intermediate routes,

697
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 8: creating separation, beating press covers.

698
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 7: Right, So that's all my emphasis.

699
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 3: No doubt about it.

700
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 1: Man, One of the best in the locker room right there,

701
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 1: that's Alec Pierce. We call him the Midwestern Missile, huge

702
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 1: yards per catch, the deep ball threat for the Colts

703
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 1: inside the passing game, and always appreciate the time and

704
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 1: best of life. Yeah, close out the season strong. Thank

705
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 1: the great Alec Pierce right there, the Midwestern Missile.

706
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 2: I like that said the other day. I like that.

707
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 1: I asked him like six weeks ago, I said, do

708
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 1: you have a nickname? He goes, I can't give myself

709
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 1: a nick name, and nickname has to come from somebody else,

710
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 1: which I totally agree with Yes, no one should give

711
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 1: themselves monikers like Jimmy Matt Dog made a start and

712
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 1: started calling himself dog like in sixth grade. You can't

713
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 1: give yourself a nickname. But I guess it worked in

714
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 1: that regard. But I think the Midwestern missile right right

715
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 1: from Chicago area went to Cincinnati now obviously is thriving

716
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 1: with the Colts mid you know, mister Midwest, and he's

717
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 1: a missile down the field in the big player.

718
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 2: I love I love that.

719
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 3: I when I heard that over the are you called it?

720
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 3: I love that.

721
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 4: It's perfect, perfect name for him, perfect nickname for him,

722
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 4: and hopefully he likes it and we'll see what happens.

723
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, baby, So good luck to him.

724
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 1: As we said, trying to set uh the NFL record

725
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 1: this year four yards per catch at over twenty one.

726
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 1: So he needs another big game to do that, and

727
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 1: I think he's in store for one.

728
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 2: All right, let's close out the show.

729
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 1: We're not going to spend a lot of time on

730
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars, Okay, I mean, I think a lot

731
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 1: of fans don't want that. I mean, it's it's not

732
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 1: in me meaningless game in the sense that it doesn't matter,

733
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 1: because it does. You're playing for pride, you're playing for

734
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 1: divisial bragging rights. But both teams have been eliminated from

735
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 1: postseason play. And this is our last podcast of the

736
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 1: regular season on the Official Cults Podcast with us Fellas.

737
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 1: So let's let's spend some time talking about a bigger picture,

738
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 1: if you will.

739
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 2: In Anthony Richardson, So, he met with.

740
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 1: Reporters on Wednesday and set his back spasms that held

741
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 1: him out of last week's game stem from an issue

742
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 1: with a disk in his lower back, and that's something

743
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 1: that's bothered him now for for a long time. His

744
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 1: back injury, initially described as soreness last week, severely limited

745
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 1: his mobility last week, and he said there was a

746
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 1: point last week where he could barely stand up, which

747
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 1: is not good. So he said that he's dealt with

748
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 1: muscle soreness in his back since he was about in

749
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 1: middle school, eighth grade area. But an MRI last week

750
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 1: revealed disc issue, a disk issue that has to be

751
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 1: managed and main I should say so even though let's start,

752
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 1: let's take this one at a time, Okay, So again

753
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,720
Speaker 1: we don't know about his availability for Sunday's week eighteen

754
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:12,359
Speaker 1: game against Jacksonville. So let's start there, casey, even though

755
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 1: the playoffs aren't obtainable, how important is it for Richardson

756
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 1: to play in this game when, again, in the bigger picture,

757
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 1: this is a game that is not going to determine

758
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 1: the postseason fate for the Colts.

759
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it's massive because you cannot replicate the

760
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 6: reps you get in game action anywhere else.

761
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:36,800
Speaker 5: So one of the things.

762
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 6: We've talked about over the course of the two years

763
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 6: now that Anthony has been in the building is the

764
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 6: lack of reps he got after high school and then

765
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 6: after his rookie year he didn't get those reps due

766
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 6: to the shoulder injury. So ultimately, I think it is

767
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 6: imperative for the reps being able to be in the

768
00:34:55,640 --> 00:35:00,479
Speaker 6: going into the going into the offseason. And in part

769
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 6: that's where this is two part. If he's healthy, yes,

770
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:05,359
Speaker 6: because if he's not, if.

771
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 1: He's compromised, no, right exactly, I don't want that because

772
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 1: you want him to be able to focus on football

773
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 1: as much as he can in the offseason, right and

774
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 1: would not have to rehab, Right, we don't.

775
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 2: So it's he's already done that.

776
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 6: It's a twofold, like, if he's healthy and he can play,

777
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 6: you want him to play. If he's not, do not

778
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,800
Speaker 6: comp don't don't play him. Let him play compromised, because

779
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 6: we want him to be able during the offseason to

780
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:30,720
Speaker 6: focus everything he can on football and not rehab.

781
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 2: All right.

782
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,399
Speaker 1: The second part of this is now that he's had

783
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,240
Speaker 1: this or does have this lingering back issue.

784
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 2: Bill he's missed prior to this week.

785
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 1: We don't know about his availability yet again, but he's

786
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 1: missed sixteen off a possible thirty three games in his

787
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 1: young career, four separate injuries concussion, shoulder injury, he has

788
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 1: the hip and the oblique earlier on this season, now

789
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 1: dealing with with backspasms and a foot injury. How concerning

790
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 1: is this in terms of his long term viability? How

791
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 1: concerning is that his rap sheet in terms of injuries

792
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 1: is so long in such a short period of time

793
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 1: in the NFL.

794
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:12,240
Speaker 3: It's a concern.

795
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 4: I think it's a concern anytime you have any player

796
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 4: that is hurt and is unable to play in games

797
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 4: and his availabilities not there for the team. It's it's

798
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 4: a concern because it's something that from here on out

799
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 4: they're going to have to monitor to make sure that,

800
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:31,280
Speaker 4: you know, what, he can stay healthy and that might change.

801
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 3: A little bit of how style Changetyking.

802
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 4: Colls a game, and that's what I don't want. Yeah, exactly,

803
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:38,760
Speaker 4: that's what you don't want. So it is a concern

804
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 4: moving forward to see how they can manage these issues

805
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 4: in regards to him being hurt or getting hurt in

806
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 4: the game, or getting hurt. His back's bothering, his foot

807
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 4: is bothering, whatever it may be. So it is a

808
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 4: concern something that they're going to have to make sure

809
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 4: that they monitor very closely to make sure that he

810
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 4: can be available to play and hopefully that you know,

811
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 4: it doesn't change his playing style out there in the football.

812
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 2: For well, this was the quote that really stood out

813
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 2: to me. Yesterday again, Anthony Richardson.

814
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 1: Spoke to reporters. He said, quote, he's talking about the

815
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 1: back injury. I never really viewed it as a problem.

816
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 1: I just thought it was more so just muscle tightness

817
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,800
Speaker 1: from working out and running a lot. It might be chronic,

818
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 1: but there's plenty of ways to prevent it going forward

819
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 1: in the future. Now that I know what it is,

820
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 1: I can find certain ways to stay out of certain positions.

821
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:29,479
Speaker 1: Just make sure I'm healthy one hundred percent. That goes

822
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 1: back to playing style. That goes back to when you

823
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 1: have Anthony Richardson out there, Fellas, you want him to

824
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 1: be wide open in terms of what he can do.

825
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,800
Speaker 1: We know about his struggles right now passing the football

826
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 1: in terms of accuracy, and the passer rating numbers are

827
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:49,240
Speaker 1: what they are right now. He's a really good wildcat quarterback,

828
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 1: running the football, throws the deep ball. But that quote

829
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 1: right there compromises what you can do potentially with Anthony

830
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 1: Richardson out of trying to make sure he's healthy and

831
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 1: available if you follow on what I'm saying.

832
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 5: No absolutely, and that is you know, that goes back

833
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 5: to what Bill said.

834
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 6: You don't want to have to change what Anthony is

835
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:11,760
Speaker 6: and where.

836
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,319
Speaker 1: He excels in because that's why he drafted him. That's

837
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 1: what It goes back to this.

838
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 6: You didn't draft Anthony Richardson for all that he does

839
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 6: to just make him a drop back, pocket passing quarterback.

840
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 6: And that's where all of these things now, you know,

841
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,800
Speaker 6: we don't know what those you know what he's able

842
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 6: to do to limit you know, those positions or we

843
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,879
Speaker 6: don't know what all that entails, but it does give

844
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 6: you a little bit of of concern because that's where

845
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 6: you initially go to, is how drastically does that change

846
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 6: his game? You would think it would be not putting

847
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 6: in myself myself in the situations of getting hit right,

848
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 6: and and that's kind of where his game is is,

849
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 6: you know, when it's all games on the line. Definitely,

850
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 6: I mean we saw it a handful of times this year.

851
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 6: When you need to get a first down, who's the

852
00:38:57,920 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 6: guy you want the ball in his hands?

853
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 5: It's Anthony. You want him to be able to.

854
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 6: Make you know he's okay to lower his shoulder and

855
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 6: make that initial content a guy over the goal line.

856
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 6: That's what he does. I mean, you have that weapon,

857
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 6: you want to be able to utilize it. So it

858
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 6: definitely is something that we're gonna have to monitor for sure.

859
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:19,359
Speaker 2: This is the franchise dilemma now. And it was.

860
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 1: And then Anthony came back and they kind of let

861
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,360
Speaker 1: the governor off a little bit and they were running

862
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 1: him a little bit more. Plus he was staying healthy,

863
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:29,879
Speaker 1: which is great, yes, but now you know something like this,

864
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 1: anytime you hear the word chronicah in a back. You

865
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 1: know that you have to start going, oh, yeah, you

866
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 1: know what I mean. But hopefully they've caught me. He's

867
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 1: young enough, right, he's twenty two years old. Hopefully they've

868
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,280
Speaker 1: caught this thing in terms of how they can manage

869
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 1: it going forward. But you just don't want it to

870
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 1: limit what makes him great, and that's his ability to

871
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 1: run with the football. And when you do that, you're

872
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 1: going to take some contact exactly.

873
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 3: And also it goes to making smart decisions out there.

874
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 4: When I think Anthony came back from his benching, I

875
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 4: thought some of the things that he did on the

876
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 4: football field, he made smart decisions. Yeah, when he needed

877
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 4: to get down, he got down. We need to get

878
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 4: out of bounce, he got out of bounce. We need

879
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 4: to throw the ball away. He threw the ball away.

880
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 1: And the good thing about this injury is that it's

881
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 1: not it doesn't stem from taking a bad hit exactly,

882
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 1: from a bad decision.

883
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:17,760
Speaker 3: Exactly, So that that's a positive.

884
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, So when you look at that way, so I

885
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,959
Speaker 4: think there are things he can do, but you still

886
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,839
Speaker 4: don't want to take away what Anthony does well. And

887
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 4: part of what he does well is run the ball

888
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:27,760
Speaker 4: with his feet.

889
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, no question about it.

890
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 5: All right.

891
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 1: Lastly, wrapping up here again, I only bring this up

892
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 1: because we know there's gonna be some finale to the

893
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 1: season after Week eighteen, Right, there's gonna be a conclusion

894
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 1: after the last game of the regular season. Question for

895
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,240
Speaker 1: both of you guys, when it comes to Anthony Richardson,

896
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 1: how would you map out his off season as long

897
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 1: as he's healthy, which is you know, not that it

898
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 1: wasn't the case last year because he couldn't start rehabbing,

899
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 1: or should say he couldn't start throwing because of the

900
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 1: rehab until about mid February. How would you map out

901
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:00,919
Speaker 1: his off season in order to grow to get better

902
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 1: and become a better quarterback next year.

903
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 5: It's a great question because I'm not a quarterback. I'm

904
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 5: not a coach, but I.

905
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 3: Thought you're the quarterback guru I.

906
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 6: And this is this is like I said, this is

907
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:17,399
Speaker 6: something that I am not super privy on what these

908
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:20,800
Speaker 6: drills or so looks like. When you look at Anthony Richardson,

909
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 6: there's a couple of things you can say. You know,

910
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,399
Speaker 6: he runs the football well, and he throws the deep ball.

911
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 5: I would put him up there in the elite category.

912
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 5: I mean it is.

913
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 6: It can change a game on how he can just

914
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:38,320
Speaker 6: you know, complete the deep pass. But when he comes

915
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 6: to playing quarterback, there is so much that goes into

916
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 6: it of in some ways making the layups. So there's

917
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 6: a lot of me that that is where my dedication

918
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 6: this offseason is is making sure those short and intermediate

919
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 6: passing you are you take a major stride getting better

920
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,399
Speaker 6: and that the intermediate game. The intermediate game, I think

921
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 6: that is going to be critical for Anthony Richardson to

922
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 6: continue to develop because he's not a finished product. We've

923
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 6: mentioned he is twenty two, he has not played that

924
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 6: much football since high school.

925
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 5: There is still a massive arrow up on what this

926
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 5: could end up being.

927
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 6: But you've got to be able to create make your

928
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:22,839
Speaker 6: entire game. You know, you got to elevate your entire game.

929
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 6: But I would start with those intermediate because we know

930
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 6: what he can do with the deep ball, we know

931
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:27,879
Speaker 6: what he can.

932
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 5: Do with his legs.

933
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 6: But if you can make all of that, you know,

934
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 6: a positive intermedia too, it really makes ar a dynamic

935
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 6: weapon in the backfield.

936
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 4: I think at first, you know what, whenever the season's

937
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 4: over for him, or if he's playing this game or

938
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 4: he's not going to play this game. I think takes

939
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 4: a little time off. Just take a little time off, relax.

940
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 4: I'm not saying take three months off, but take a

941
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 4: lot of time off and relax, and then let's get

942
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 4: back into it. And to me, I think getting back

943
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 4: into is you start with the fundamentals. You start with

944
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 4: the fundamentals. That's work on the fundamentals. Work on the fundamentals,

945
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 4: and that should become a for you that when you

946
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 4: execute the fundamentals every time you play in the game,

947
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 4: it becomes a habit to you. So work on the fundamentals.

948
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 4: If it's footwork, if it's body position, on position, wherever

949
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 4: it may be, work on those things. And then, as

950
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 4: you said, Casey, work on the short to intermediate passes.

951
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 4: To me, those are things I think that if he

952
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 4: can work on those and improve on that, on the

953
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 4: consistency on how successful he is on short intermediate passes,

954
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 4: that would go a long way in his game. And

955
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:32,319
Speaker 4: if he continued to does that work with his individual

956
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 4: coach during this time where he can't work here at the.

957
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:38,160
Speaker 3: Facility or with the coaches here. Yeah, work with.

958
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 4: Your personal coach and get those things under control so

959
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,360
Speaker 4: that when it comes time to come into the season,

960
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 4: come into OTAs, coming to mini camp or whatever it is,

961
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:52,359
Speaker 4: that he's ready to go and he knows what he's doing.

962
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 4: So to me, I think that's going to be a big,

963
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:58,320
Speaker 4: big part. Work on your fundamentals, work on the basic things,

964
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 4: because to me, those things are the foundation of how

965
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 4: well you can be in regards to excelling out there

966
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 4: in the football field.

967
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,799
Speaker 6: And I think also like making sure that plan is

968
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:13,799
Speaker 6: you know, organizational down, you know, make sure it is

969
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:17,439
Speaker 6: you know, everybody is on the same page on this

970
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 6: is where we need to be this and happens how

971
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:22,359
Speaker 6: we teach, this is how we And I think that

972
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 6: is not saying that it hasn't been there.

973
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:25,879
Speaker 5: I'm not at all, you know, this is all.

974
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 6: I'm just saying that it needs to be everybody involved

975
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 6: on the same page so that once that OTAs start

976
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:36,720
Speaker 6: and training camp starts, you're able to hit the ground

977
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 6: running already moving on the same page because you've been

978
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 6: working side by side during this whole time, whether or

979
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:46,919
Speaker 6: not you're physically side by side, being able to stay

980
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:49,319
Speaker 6: in lockstep on where you are so that you can

981
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,439
Speaker 6: just continue to grow. Because you don't want to see

982
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 6: that when we come into OTAs, it's you know, trying

983
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 6: to you know, get back up to speed to here.

984
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:58,280
Speaker 5: I think everything needs.

985
00:44:58,160 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 1: To Well that's the hard part because they can't have

986
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 1: content with him until he comes back right spring, right,

987
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 1: So a lot of this stuff is gonna have to

988
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 1: be on his own correct, his own you know, trainers,

989
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 1: with his own throwing mechanics folks and things like that,

990
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 1: which a lot of quarterbacks use.

991
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 2: But a lot of.

992
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 1: This is gonna have to be on Anthony Richardson setting

993
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:19,359
Speaker 1: a plan for himself and the Colts having input within

994
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 1: that plan until he comes back into the building in

995
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 1: April exactly.

996
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 4: And plus also I think you know for him, Anthony,

997
00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 4: now that he he has an understanding of the offense,

998
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 4: so he knows what to look for. He knows what

999
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,919
Speaker 4: players are coming in regards to okay, where this player

1000
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 4: is gonna where the running back is gonna be, where

1001
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 4: the titan is gonna be, where this wide receiver is

1002
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 4: gonna be.

1003
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 3: Now you have that and you understand that.

1004
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 4: So when you're in the off season, you can call

1005
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 4: you other receivers say, look, you know what, let's have

1006
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,400
Speaker 4: a throwing session down here in Florida, or let's have

1007
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 4: a throwing session wherever for a number of guys that

1008
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 4: come down. Okay, this is what we're gonna do. We're

1009
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:52,879
Speaker 4: gonna throw the ball in the air. We're gonna run

1010
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 4: like a seven on seven on air.

1011
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 2: This is the play.

1012
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 4: I'm calling the play last year. You know, these are

1013
00:45:57,760 --> 00:45:59,839
Speaker 4: the players we had last year. We're gonna cost him

1014
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:02,240
Speaker 4: a Let's run it. We're gonna want to this coverage

1015
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:04,360
Speaker 4: out there, they ran and cover two. So this is

1016
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 4: what I need to look for. I need to look

1017
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:07,919
Speaker 4: for this guy over here, or this is my first read,

1018
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 4: this is my second read. Now that he has, you know,

1019
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 4: a good understanding of the playbook, he can do those

1020
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 4: things out there and just continue to work on things.

1021
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:17,399
Speaker 4: When you see him, you rep them. You see him,

1022
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 4: you rep them. You see him, you rep them. Then

1023
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 4: it becomes easier for you once you get into OTA

1024
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:22,840
Speaker 4: as a minicamp.

1025
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,319
Speaker 6: And I don't want to, you know, put pressure on

1026
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,319
Speaker 6: anything either, but we all know what it is. I mean,

1027
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 6: this is entering the third year of a rookie contract.

1028
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 2: Window of opportunity.

1029
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:33,759
Speaker 5: This this is it.

1030
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 6: This is a massive off season for Anthony Richardson and

1031
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 6: the organization.

1032
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:40,800
Speaker 5: I mean, this is a massive window.

1033
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 6: So this this is the off season that is the

1034
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 6: most important one that Anthony Richardson has been with as

1035
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:47,720
Speaker 6: a professional athlete.

1036
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:49,839
Speaker 5: So it is it's a big This is a big one.

1037
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 6: This is a really really big one for for Anthony

1038
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 6: and for this organization to you know, you have you

1039
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 6: talk about your window of opportunity. This is also where

1040
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 6: when you start thinking financials, all of those start to

1041
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:02,399
Speaker 6: come into play.

1042
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 2: I'll have to make decisions on those things.

1043
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:05,839
Speaker 6: After year three, You're gonna have to start making those.

1044
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 6: So it's it's a big one. This is a really

1045
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 6: really big one.

1046
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 2: I like it.

1047
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 1: You guys brought the heat today, man, you did. We

1048
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 1: got on some hard truths. We talked about the short

1049
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 1: term and the long term from Anthony Richardson, and hopefully

1050
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 1: the Colts can close out the season take some solace

1051
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 1: out of the fact of beating the Jacksonville Jaguars. In

1052
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 1: Week number eighteen, Bill Brooks, Casey Valley, I'm Matt Taylor

1053
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 1: Fellas again. Happy New year to you, and thanks for

1054
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 1: making this podcast a so much fun yes, and so

1055
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 1: enjoyable and easy.

1056
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:34,879
Speaker 5: You know, for eighteen weeks butt a lot of fun.

1057
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 8: Man.

1058
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 5: I appreciate both badly.

1059
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 4: I appreciate both of you guys, and I can tell

1060
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:41,760
Speaker 4: you before you guys just hunker down in your little

1061
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 4: office and get to work, and I'd love to see it.

1062
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 1: Man.

1063
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 3: Thanks a lot for very thing.

1064
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 2: I appreciate you. Yeah, thanks so much.

1065
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 8: Bill.

1066
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:49,760
Speaker 1: Thank you to Ava behind the scenes on the ones

1067
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 1: and twos on YouTube and the.

1068
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 2: Colts Audio Network.

1069
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:55,879
Speaker 1: And thank you the audience for always engaging with us again,

1070
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 1: whether it be on YouTube with video or audio on

1071
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 1: the Colts Audio Network. That's to do it for us again.

1072
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:05,280
Speaker 1: Billy Brooks, Casey Vallee, I'm Matt Taylor. Thanks for watching

1073
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 1: Go Colts Week eighteen Colts and Jaguars, and we'll talk

1074
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:11,320
Speaker 1: to you next time here on the official Colts podcast.

1075
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 5: So Long,