1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 1: Welcome to you stuff you should know from house Stuff 2 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:12,559 Speaker 1: Works dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm 3 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: Josh Clark with Charles W. Chuck Bryant from Jerry, This 4 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: is Snow. No guest producer, No Ben Bolan, just us. 5 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: That really got into your crowd? And what the three 6 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: D printing? Frank, What I don't know that prank? Ben 7 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 1: Bolan sitting in for you? Oh that yeah, how many 8 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 1: pranks have you pulled? No, no, I didn't know. I 9 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: didn't know it was three D printing. I thought he 10 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: printed something for me. No, no, no, I thought that 11 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: was great. I thought it was pretty fun. Yeah, you 12 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 1: know what, I'm looking forward to. What are Christmas episode? 13 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:51,519 Speaker 1: In our Halloween episode? Because those two no one can 14 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: complain about. There are no sides to be taken. Oh, 15 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 1: you guys seem to favor Christmas in the Christmas episode. 16 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: You're a very new true about it. Yeah, those are 17 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: definitely we love those episodes. We do or like anything 18 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: on like Plato or Spammer or we didn't do Plato yet, 19 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: did we. No, it's in the queue. Yeah, it's coming. Yeah, 20 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: it's supposedly very neat stuff. That's right. I was deprived 21 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 1: as a child that was not allowed to play with toys. 22 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 1: But I just sit in a room quietly for the 23 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:26,400 Speaker 1: first twelve years of my life. A little Albert I wish. Yeah, yeah, 24 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 1: at least he got to be exposed to rabbits and 25 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: stuff like that. Speaking of you know, I did a 26 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 1: video on little Albert. Oh yeah, don't be dumb. No 27 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 1: on psychology is nuts? Okay. Oh and speaking of video, 28 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:42,919 Speaker 1: what a perfect segue. We have a new video series 29 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: out called Studio Show Notes. And if you've ever wanted 30 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: to get inside the studio with this, this is the 31 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: best way to do it. Yeah. That or win a contest. Yeah, 32 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: we like bring the cameras in here, and we talk 33 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: about like some newsy things. It's usually a news item 34 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: that relates to a past show or if there's an 35 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 1: update or a correction. And it's short and sweet and uh, 36 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: that's short. It's cool. No, it's sweet. It's tangy. Yeah, 37 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: short and tangy. Yeah, it's good. Yes. So the Studio 38 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: Show Notes. Yeah, And you can go to our YouTube 39 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: channel search Josh and Chuck and YouTube. Check those out 40 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: and don't be done. We've got some good videos going 41 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:23,399 Speaker 1: lately and psychology is nuts, right, thanks man? Yeah, so 42 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 1: now onto probiotics, Chuck, Yes, you remember when we went 43 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 1: to Guatemala. Yeah, you and Jerry both took probiotics. I 44 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 1: think I had a timed into it. I did, and 45 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:39,359 Speaker 1: it did nothing to help you. There was a Jerry 46 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: which one if you got sick? Oh, I did, yes, 47 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: because of the ice and the rum drinks. Think. I 48 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:48,920 Speaker 1: closed my mouth in the shower, did everything right all week, 49 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: and that last night I went crazy at a dance 50 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 1: club and drank ice y with alcohol. Man, that's crazy. Yeah, 51 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 1: I wouldn't trade it though. That was like one of 52 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 1: the best nights. How long are you sick for? I 53 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:04,920 Speaker 1: don't remember, but I had what do they call it? 54 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 1: The gut? Chuck late, that's so gross? Is so gross? 55 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: That's so gross. It tore me up. Luckily it was 56 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 1: after I'd gotten back home because I could not imagine. 57 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: I remember thinking at the time, Man, if I was 58 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 1: in Guatemala suffering through this right now, I would be miserable. Yeah, 59 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 1: because I'd be missing out on the trip from our 60 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: friends at at the Cooperative for Education co ed dot org. 61 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: The question remains, thought, Well, no, I know you took probiotics, 62 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: but the question remains, like, did it help you? Did 63 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: it shorten the duration of your travelers diarrhea? Have no 64 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: idea what someone called? No, you don't. No one knows 65 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 1: because probiotics, although very intuitive, isn't backed up with science. 66 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: Not not yet. Yeah, a little bit. Uh, and we'll 67 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: we'll get to findings. But um, yeah, I don't want 68 00:03:58,240 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: to spoil it yet. We'll get to that later. No, 69 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: but again, it's extremely intuitive. It makes a lot of sense. 70 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: Probiotics means for life or good life in favor of life. Yeah. Um, 71 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 1: it's the idea and the practice of taking bacteria that's 72 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 1: been proven or suggested to be beneficial to the health 73 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 1: of our guts um and ingesting it like either in 74 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 1: a pill form or in certain types of food. Yeah. 75 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:32,479 Speaker 1: Northern Europe and Japan have been big on this for 76 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 1: a while. Yeah. As a matter of fact, the whole 77 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:40,039 Speaker 1: concept of eating bacteria to improve health rather than contracting 78 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: disease comes from Europe, comes from Central Europe or Eastern Europe. 79 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 1: There's a Nobel Prize winner and his name was Eli. 80 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 1: Uh what is it nice um? And mansh Nikov said Russian. Yeah, 81 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: but he was studying Bulgarians. He was studying the longevity 82 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: of Bulgarian peasants, and Bulgarian peasants were known to eat 83 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: a fermented milk product called caelo mil yaco, which is 84 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: sheep's milk yogurt, known colloquially here in the US is 85 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: Bulgarian sour milk, and it's a fermented milk product. Sounds 86 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:20,159 Speaker 1: it does, but all that, it's pretty tasty. It's probably 87 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 1: like keffer. I've never had that either. It's not bad. 88 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: It's like it's like a much more liquid e Greek yogurt. Okay. 89 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 1: I definitely though if if I had a hot day 90 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 1: working in the yard and then it's about some Bulgarian 91 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:39,159 Speaker 1: sour milk it's room temperature, yeah no, you would not 92 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 1: want to do that. But after a m you just 93 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: eat it. Okay, your Bulgarian, your balky bartacamus now and 94 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 1: you are living forever because you've been eating Bulgarian sour 95 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: milk for your whole life. So minch Nikof was studying 96 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 1: this at the beginning of the twentieth century, and in 97 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:01,039 Speaker 1: around nine I think around ninety seven he published this 98 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:03,559 Speaker 1: whole idea like wait a minute, I figured it out. 99 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 1: There is a fermented or fermenting bacteria called lacto bacillus 100 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: that basically produces lactic acid during the fermentation process, and 101 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: it's in this food stuff, and if you eat this 102 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:24,039 Speaker 1: food stuff, you will gain health benefits from it. And 103 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: everybody was like, shut up, you crazy Russian. You're probably 104 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 1: friends with rescipute or something, and we're not going to 105 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: listen to you. But it turns out he was totally right. Well, yeah, 106 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 1: I think he was like, these are Bulgarian peasants. They 107 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 1: should not be this healthy, you know, because they don't 108 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 1: have all the benefits of living in a different place 109 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: and having a lot of wealth. Now, and you saw 110 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: perfect strangers like BALKI was not risk averse, accident prone. 111 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:52,559 Speaker 1: There are a lot of reasons you shouldn't have been alive, 112 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 1: see Bulgarian. I think. So I didn't watch it? What 113 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: I didn't watch it? I know the show, but I 114 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 1: didn't watch it. You should go back and watch it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 115 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 1: cut show. I like the dude and the other guy too. Yeah. 116 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: I don't know why I didn't watch it becausin what 117 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 1: year was that? Yeah, mid late eighties, like eighties, seven 118 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: eighty eight. I was watching Moonlighting. You could have watched 119 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: them both. I don't think they were on in different 120 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: time slots. You remember the time slot, dude, the one 121 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: where they have to move a piano upstairs. Classic it is. 122 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: It's great TV. But I guess did they get it 123 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: all the way to the top and it rolled back 124 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 1: on somebody? I think that happened in the middle oh man. Yeah. 125 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 1: So anyway, Um, Mitchtikov publishes his findings, they go largely 126 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: ignored and um. Around the same time, actually, a few 127 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: years before, there was a Frenchman named ri ti A 128 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 1: and in he started studying the poop of healthy breastfed 129 00:07:56,200 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: infants and he noticed that the healthiest ones all had 130 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: something called what he called bifido bacterium. So why shape 131 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: Graham negative bacteria? And uh he said, you know what, 132 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: I think this is linked to health. And again no 133 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: one listened to him because at the time it was like, 134 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 1: we're all happy with germ theory. Yeah that sounds that 135 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 1: was probably like magic. This flies in the face of 136 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: germ theories, like, yeah, we agree, there's little tiny things around, 137 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: but they're trying to kill us. They're not making us healthier. Well, 138 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 1: these two guys said, yes they are, and they provided 139 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 1: the basis for probiotics, which still today. The two types 140 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 1: of probiotics, the two genera of probiotics that are UM 141 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: that are viewed as beneficial are lack of basilus and bacteria. Yeah, 142 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: it's crazy that they were onto this way back then 143 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: and now it's becoming a very trendy thing. And uh, 144 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: if you go to buy a supplement, they say to 145 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 1: look for like at least so many billion of those 146 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: two strains. One billion is the minimum amount, but they 147 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: recommend much more than that, Like Emily takes ones. It's 148 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: like fifteen billion. Because and we'll get into this too, 149 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: you can't necessarily count on all those fifteen billion being 150 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 1: alive by the time they hit your intestines, I know, 151 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: but we'll get to that. Although it's sort of just 152 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: so let's let's talk about UM probiotics in general. Like 153 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 1: the World Health Organization, like you said, Europe and Japan 154 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 1: have been hip to the probiotics for a while UM 155 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: and the World Health Organization created a definition that's just 156 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 1: out of this world. Live microorganisms, which, when administered in 157 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: adequate amounts, confer a health benefit on the host. That 158 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: sounds on the host to say the person, right and 159 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 1: live organisms like you could that could be possums. Yeah, 160 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: but the need of possums that doesn't confer health in 161 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 1: a bit, Well, there's only one way to find out 162 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: if it does or not. Yeah, yeah, haven't tried it. 163 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: And like we said these days, um, it's in a 164 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: lot of food products. Um, A lot of people are 165 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 1: on the supplement plan though, just to take him in 166 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 1: a capsule form, right, But when you add something like 167 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 1: a probiotic to food, you create what's called in the 168 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: industry a functional food. And there's a bit of problem 169 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 1: with functional foods in that they have made a lot 170 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 1: of claims because they're not regulated by the f d A. Uh, 171 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:29,439 Speaker 1: and so they can say certain things they can't say 172 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: other things. And like, um, I guess we can go 173 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: ahead and say because it's public news. Dan and who 174 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 1: made Activia. Um, we all saw the commercials with Jamie 175 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: Lee Curtis. Just one serving will make your regular. Um. 176 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: I even worked on a photo shoot for I just 177 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: remembered that now with her for Activita for Activia way 178 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 1: back in the day. And uh, she got mad because 179 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 1: the PA was taking pictures of her like mad, mad 180 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: she wasn't very nice about it. What did she say? Um, well, 181 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 1: I was just doing that p A thing where you know, 182 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 1: there's a scene he's try and get close and listen. 183 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: Were you the one who was taking pictures? No, no, no, no, 184 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 1: not my friend was um. And it was on the beach, 185 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: and I just remember him taking pictures in her like. 186 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: She didn't smash his camera. She didn't show him penna, 187 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 1: but she had it smashed. No, no, no, she had it. Um. 188 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: She had the film taken from him though this is 189 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: pretty digital. Oh well, yeah, I just remember that. I'm 190 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 1: not knocking Jamie Lee Curtis. No. I mean, you know, 191 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:30,679 Speaker 1: it's like the paparazzi following me all the way. You 192 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: can't even get away from it on a film smashed 193 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 1: the camera. Um. But danon Um did get into trouble 194 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 1: because they overstated the effects. And while they're not under 195 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: the f d A, the FDC got involved and said 196 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 1: the Federal Trade Commission and called them out and they 197 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 1: had to stop making those claims of regularity. Um. They 198 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 1: had to stop making claims that it prevented cold and flu. Yeah, 199 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: and they had to pay out one million dollars to 200 00:11:57,240 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 1: thirty nine state attorney generals, which I don't I guess 201 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 1: those are fines. I couldn't get exactly how they're settlements. 202 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 1: They were sued, well, I don't think they were sued. Yeah, 203 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 1: it turned by the way attorneys general. Yeah, sorry, it 204 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 1: was William Stapphire's ghosts going through me. But um, they 205 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 1: they sue like they get together and say hey, like, 206 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 1: I guess I just thought they were fine. Well, either way, 207 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 1: they had to pay out money, and they had to 208 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 1: stop overstating these things and go to more generalized claims, 209 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 1: which they paid out twenty one million. You say, yeah, 210 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 1: I mean that it may have ended up being more 211 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: than that. Even that's not too bad because the first 212 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 1: year that activity was out, according to this article, it 213 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 1: made a hundred million dollars in sales. Twenty one million 214 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 1: here chairs, But the point is if activity it could 215 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 1: make a hundred million dollars in sales. It's a yogurt. 216 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 1: Everybody a hundred million dollars in sales in the US, 217 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 1: and it's a yogurt. It show It's like, wow, people 218 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 1: really want this, they want probiotics. They believe in it. 219 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: But we find after looking into it, like, well, there 220 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: everybody like, yes, it makes sense, we know it makes sense, 221 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:14,679 Speaker 1: and yes, yogurt can be delicious, but we also know 222 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: yogurt is good for you. Yeah, and and but we've 223 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 1: got to get to the science of all this, and 224 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: we will get to the science of this right after this. 225 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 1: Everybody so chuck. Everybody's really hot and heavy to buy activity, 226 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 1: to take probiotics supplements, like everyone wants us to work 227 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 1: because the idea of friendly little bacteria getting into our 228 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 1: tommi's and you know, tickling everything just right to make 229 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 1: everything go well, you know, especially like if you can't 230 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 1: poop or something like that, or if you're pooping a lot, 231 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:50,439 Speaker 1: right then then this idea very much appeals to you. 232 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 1: Eat some yogurt, feel better. That sounds great. That's like 233 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:56,679 Speaker 1: what food ideally is supposed to do is to make 234 00:13:56,760 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 1: you feel better, not give you diabetes and a few 235 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:03,959 Speaker 1: from standing up from the couch. You know, it's supposed 236 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 1: to like make you jump on the beach and have 237 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 1: someone's camera broken when they take pictures. It's supposed to 238 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 1: make you poop. Like that's what food is supposed to do. 239 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 1: And I think that's why Activita sold as much as 240 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: it did and that's why people want this stuff to work. 241 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: But like I said, we have to get into the 242 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: science of it, and the science is there in some cases, 243 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 1: but not nearly as far as it's being stretched at 244 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 1: this point. Yeah. I went to the Harvard uh et 245 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 1: U site to look at the skinny on what they 246 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: found in right now in they can pretty much say 247 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: with great confidence through study scientific study that, uh, it 248 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 1: can help your bowel situation. It can reduce diarrhea. Hey man, 249 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: your bow sitch. It can help you maybe if you 250 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 1: have IBS or if you have taken antibiotics that give 251 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 1: you diarrhea because they give me diarrhea like crazy. Um, 252 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: they've they've pretty much sussed that out with studies. Yes, 253 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 1: all those are backed up with study. Yeah, um, so 254 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: it'll it can help you. If you have intestinal issues, 255 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: it can help you. Um. There are other intestinal issues 256 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: that it's being touted to be able to help, like 257 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 1: Crohn's disease. Jury is still out on that, even though 258 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 1: a lot of people are like, yeah, probiotics can help 259 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 1: and that would make sense intuitively because the beneficial probiotics 260 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: like um Bifidobacterium and Lactobacillus um supposedly cut down on 261 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 1: inflammation and an inflammation response, and that's what Crohn's disease is. 262 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: UM and they they supposedly also can help with everything 263 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: from vaginal infections UM to allergies, childhood allergies. All of 264 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:58,479 Speaker 1: these claims are being made about probiotics and again, intuitively 265 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 1: they may help, they could consumably help, but the science 266 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 1: is not. They're backing it up. And that's not to 267 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: say that the science is saying no this, We've we've 268 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: shown that this doesn't have an effect. It's at the 269 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 1: point where these studies are just now beginning to be 270 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 1: carried out, so a body of study on them is 271 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 1: starting to now be a massed in the United States 272 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: at least. Yeah. Um, it's a difficult thing to study 273 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 1: because you have to study feces uh and um. I 274 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 1: think Molly wrote this. She pointed out a good point. 275 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 1: Even if you do study feces, and even if you 276 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: do find that a certain amount of bacteria has made 277 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: it all the way through into your feces, um, you 278 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 1: don't necessarily know what exactly it did, right, I mean, 279 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 1: it has reported findings like I felt better or I 280 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 1: didn't have diarrhea as long this time. I took any 281 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 1: bodys and there's a lot of dispute also over what 282 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 1: constitutes an effective dose. And when you're talking about probiotics, 283 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 1: what you're taking are called all any forming units cf US, 284 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 1: and these are viable bacteria that can reproduce and spread 285 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: and colonize your colon. Right. So this panel of UM 286 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:15,120 Speaker 1: I guess, probiotic experts academics got together and I think 287 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: Florida in October of two thousand thirteen and said, we've 288 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 1: studied all the literature, We've done some meta analysis, and 289 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: this is what we've concluded, and they recommend that you 290 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 1: take no less than one billion colony forming units c 291 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: f US, so it's tend to the ninth power. And 292 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 1: like you said, Emily takes them that are like fifteen 293 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 1: billion colony forming units UM. And that they also said 294 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 1: that we need to study more particular species and strains, 295 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:48,880 Speaker 1: because if you say Biffeto Bacterium or Lacto bacillus, you're 296 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:52,439 Speaker 1: talking about an entire genera of bacteria, not even like 297 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 1: a strain or species, a genera, right, And you you 298 00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 1: can't say, oh, Biffeto Bacterium is good for uh crones. 299 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 1: That's like saying red pills make you healthy? Like what 300 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 1: what what type of red pills and what do the 301 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 1: red pills specifically do. So, thanks to the Human Microbiome Project, 302 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:17,439 Speaker 1: which we've talked about before in the episode, we're starting 303 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 1: to get a clearer picture of what constitutes a healthy 304 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 1: gut in an average person depending on your genetic makeup, right, 305 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 1: and what constitutes an unhealthy gut. And once we start 306 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 1: to understand what a healthy gut looks more like, we 307 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 1: can kind of enrich that environment and maybe add more 308 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 1: bacteria to the beneficial bacteria probiotic list. Yeah, there's a 309 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 1: researcher um at the University of Colorado School of Medicine 310 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:49,880 Speaker 1: that says that there's just a misconception out there that 311 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:54,439 Speaker 1: you're just reseting your good bacteria that's missing. She her 312 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 1: basic point is is there's a lot of over generalization 313 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:01,160 Speaker 1: going on, like you were talking about with the red pill. Um. 314 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:03,679 Speaker 1: She thinks there's a lot of potential in the future 315 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 1: and that it could end up doing a lot of this, 316 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: But the notion of you know, you're receding your bacteria 317 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:12,239 Speaker 1: and it's good for you and that's all you need 318 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 1: to know, it's just a big oversimplification of what's going 319 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 1: on because everyone's different and like you said, the different 320 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 1: strains and h what's good for one person might not 321 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 1: be as good for another. It's like super specific. But 322 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 1: the two the two genera biffido Bacterium and UM Lactobacillus 323 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:36,879 Speaker 1: have been shown to the reason they're considered probiotics is 324 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 1: because they are not necessarily going in and recolonizing your 325 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: your gut, like those things are present, but again, you're 326 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 1: the the healthy microbiome we're starting to understand is just 327 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 1: this huge grab bag that can change from person to person, 328 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 1: from UM race to race basically UM. But those two specifically, 329 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 1: those two genera specific have effects on things like your 330 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 1: immune system, like they spur the production of immunoglobin A 331 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:11,399 Speaker 1: or UM beta defense in which are both they they're 332 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 1: they're both immune proteins that go after pathogens, so they 333 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:19,400 Speaker 1: help with your immune system. These two things do specifically, Yeah, 334 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: that's what you you want to look for those two, 335 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:24,239 Speaker 1: and those are the two main players anyway, Like if 336 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 1: you're going to get a probiotic, you're probably gonna find those. 337 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 1: But not coincidentally, those are also the ones that were 338 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:34,920 Speaker 1: discovered a hundreds something years ago and have been studied 339 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:37,159 Speaker 1: in one form of fashion ever since. So as we 340 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 1: start to come across more potentially good bacteria from the 341 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:44,920 Speaker 1: Human Microbiome Project, they will be studied in um more 342 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 1: detail and we'll get a better idea of this particular strain, 343 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 1: of this species of this genera is probably good for this, right. Yeah. 344 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:58,399 Speaker 1: And then there's the whole thing of prebiotics, which we 345 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:09,879 Speaker 1: should talk about right for this. Okay, So you're in 346 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 1: the store and you want to get something good for 347 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 1: your gut because you've been pooping, you have a diarrhea, 348 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:21,159 Speaker 1: and you just got general trouble with your stomach. Place forever, 349 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:24,919 Speaker 1: place forever. Uh. You go in and you see probiotics 350 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:26,400 Speaker 1: and you think, hey, I've heard of those on the news. 351 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:30,360 Speaker 1: There Jamie Nae Curtis is dancing on the beach um 352 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: coating herself with yogurt and she's doing great. And but 353 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 1: this pre biotic, what in the world is that that 354 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:42,160 Speaker 1: is not the same prebiotics spurs this growth. It's these bacteria. 355 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 1: It's like food for probiotics. Yeah. Instead of a probiotic, 356 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:49,640 Speaker 1: which is the actual bacteria you're ingesting, probiotics will help 357 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 1: them grow Yeah, you're giving it a nourishing environment to 358 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:54,399 Speaker 1: grow in, and you can take them both at the 359 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:58,400 Speaker 1: same time. Yeah, there's something called symbiotics, which is prebiotic 360 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:00,880 Speaker 1: and the probiotics. So it's the food and the thing 361 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 1: that eats the food all mixed together. And things like yogurt, kefir, kimchi, miso, 362 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 1: sour kraut, fermented foods like that, they have it naturally. 363 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 1: Those are symbiotics. They have both and and probe prebiotics. 364 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,400 Speaker 1: It's kind of just fiber in a lot of cases, 365 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 1: dietary fiber that they like to eat and ferment. Al Right, Well, 366 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 1: we talked earlier about Um, you don't know exactly how 367 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 1: much you're getting in some of these foods. Um, that's 368 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 1: a problem because you don't know if you don't know 369 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 1: what dosage you need, you don't know how much is 370 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 1: six Because these things are you know, that's why there's 371 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: fifteen billion of them in a tiny little pill. They 372 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 1: die very easily and through packaging and chipping. Uh, you 373 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 1: don't know how much you're gonna be getting in the end. Yeah, 374 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 1: if you're if not in the end, you know what 375 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:50,919 Speaker 1: I mean? Well, you know, like if you look if 376 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 1: you go into a health of food store or something, right, 377 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 1: and they have probiotics. They might have some of that 378 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 1: are refrigerated, but then they have some on the shelf. 379 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 1: Like what's the difference. Well, the ones on the shelf 380 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: have undergone a process of freeze drying. They're basically in 381 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:10,919 Speaker 1: cryonic suspendure suspended animation right then, and it protects them 382 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:15,919 Speaker 1: being in that state like basically, and it protects them 383 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 1: from exposure to um when they're if they're exposed to 384 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:23,120 Speaker 1: heat or cold or um moisture, all they're not moisture. 385 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: Once they're exposed the moisture, they come back and they're 386 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:29,120 Speaker 1: they're in trouble unless they're in your tomic. But so 387 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,120 Speaker 1: those those have been free stright, the ones that are 388 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 1: in the refrigerator are likely not freeze right, and they're 389 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 1: much more fragile. Yeah, that's what Emily's are refrigerated and expensive. Well, yeah, 390 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 1: because it costs a lot more to take care of 391 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:46,200 Speaker 1: them to keep them in a state of um life 392 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,920 Speaker 1: so that they can have an effect. The problem is 393 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 1: when you buy those at the store, you have no 394 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,360 Speaker 1: idea of what you're buying is the real deal or not, 395 00:23:56,520 --> 00:24:00,639 Speaker 1: because like you said, the f d A isn't regulating this, 396 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 1: Uh true, But there you can do a little research 397 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,920 Speaker 1: and find out, like, you know, I don't think there's 398 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: a ton of snake oil out there, is there? Well, 399 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 1: so I read this article from consumer lab dot com. 400 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,719 Speaker 1: Was it called snake oil as proa No, it was. 401 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 1: It was basically it was saying like in two thousand nine, 402 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 1: they did a random sample of probiotics on the market, 403 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 1: didn't have the advertised amount of bacteria and because they 404 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:33,400 Speaker 1: had died off some for whatever reason. Yeah, because that's 405 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 1: the thing, like, let's say I sell you a bunch 406 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,879 Speaker 1: of bacteria and you're gonna put them into pills, but 407 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 1: you don't. You know, man, I got some poto back 408 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 1: to how much? What do you what do you want? 409 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:46,640 Speaker 1: How much? We'll talk later. I'll give you a good deal, 410 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,479 Speaker 1: all right, So but you you don't invest and let 411 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 1: it not be like that last batch. This one's this 412 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:55,159 Speaker 1: one's even cool. I had him died neon green for you. 413 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 1: All right, you can do something with that um but 414 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 1: they have like vacuum machines that you you deal with 415 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 1: this this bacteria and put into pillform or whatever. Let's 416 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:05,399 Speaker 1: say you don't invest in that. You just run it 417 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 1: through a regular pill machine, all the bacteria dies. Even 418 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:12,199 Speaker 1: if you know that stead, you can still slap that 419 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 1: in and be like, there's fifty billion cf us in 420 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:19,120 Speaker 1: each pill. Pill get it, come get it. Knowing they're dead, 421 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,439 Speaker 1: nothing's going to happen to you. You're not running a 422 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:25,959 Speaker 1: foul of the FDA so long as you're not saying, 423 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 1: and this stuff can cure your crowns disease, because all 424 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 1: the FDA is concerned with is your claims to what 425 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:37,680 Speaker 1: your product can do, not whether that's stuff's in there. Yeah, 426 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:41,360 Speaker 1: I will say this. I often find myself buying them 427 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 1: for her because I'm errand boy. At the health food store, 428 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:51,119 Speaker 1: they have very boring labels. They look more like medicine 429 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 1: and they say, you know, fifteen thousand or fifteen billion. Sorry, 430 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 1: wo uh, it's all listened on the label. I went 431 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,640 Speaker 1: to get her recently, I was at a big chain 432 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 1: grocery store and she said, Hey, I'm out, just see 433 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,479 Speaker 1: what they have there. And I knew what they wouldn't 434 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,159 Speaker 1: have the stuff that the health food store had, but 435 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 1: I perused and what you find in the grocery store 436 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 1: are major brands selling what to me, looks like a 437 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:24,879 Speaker 1: bunch of bs for sure. I mean, why not if 438 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,360 Speaker 1: every if a hundred million, if people want to buy 439 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,440 Speaker 1: a hundred million dollars with of Activita, and you're you're 440 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 1: a supplement manufacturer, why wouldn't you get in on that. 441 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 1: You already know the ins and outs of the federal 442 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:40,199 Speaker 1: regulations here sucker by this, Yeah, that's the problem. Like 443 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,159 Speaker 1: and even with the good stuff that you trust that 444 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 1: the health food store, it's not necessarily snake oil. It 445 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:50,119 Speaker 1: is probably made in earnest um. But the key is 446 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 1: it may have undergone like the refrigerator truck maybe broke 447 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 1: down on the way and the whole batch was ruined. 448 00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 1: They're still gonna sell it, and they'll still there's no 449 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 1: no repercussion, and you will have no idea whether it's 450 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:08,119 Speaker 1: effective or not. That's why we need probiotics probably do work, 451 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,360 Speaker 1: but we have to figure out how to how much 452 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 1: is the right amount, and how to deliver that amount 453 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 1: in a way that is going to basically stay effective 454 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 1: throughout the production and transportation and distribution segments, some kind 455 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 1: of regulations, and then when it hits your stomach, it's 456 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:31,360 Speaker 1: gonna survive your stomach and then dissolving your gut, which 457 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 1: is what's supposed to happen. So we're just not quite 458 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 1: there yet. But that doesn't mean that they're those probiotics 459 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 1: that you trust don't actually work. They very well may work. Yeah, 460 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,919 Speaker 1: And the consensus that everyone agrees on is you're not 461 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 1: gonna you're not gonna hurt yourself by taking probiotics. Right there. 462 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 1: There have been studies that have shown like, if you're 463 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 1: a healthy person, it may not do anything for you, 464 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,400 Speaker 1: but it's probably not going to hurt you. But there 465 00:27:56,520 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 1: was one big exception with pancreatitis. In this article, Um, 466 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 1: there's a study that's cited to where a group of 467 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 1: people who have pancreatitisents with pancreatitis. Some received probiotics, others 468 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 1: received a placebo. And even with everything else being equal, 469 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,680 Speaker 1: all things being equal, the people who are taking probiotics, 470 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,400 Speaker 1: twenty four of them died, which is twice the number 471 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,479 Speaker 1: of the death in the placebo group, which is just weird. 472 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 1: That is weird. And then also, if you have a 473 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 1: lowered or compromised immune system, you probably should avoid probiotics. 474 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 1: Is the other warning that I came across. I've also 475 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 1: seen that it could possibly maybe help with not getting cancer, 476 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 1: but you shouldn't take them if you're getting cancer treatment. 477 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 1: But I don't know if that's right on either. I 478 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 1: haven't heard that one. Uh. Some Canadians have researched UM 479 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 1: and they think and see, this is still the wild West, 480 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 1: like we said, like there's so many claims that they 481 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 1: think might like in ten years, this would be a 482 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 1: completely different show. But researchers in Canada have linked UH 483 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 1: supplement it's too lower levels of anxiety, UM and stress 484 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 1: and UH. This past December, the British Journal of Nutrition 485 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 1: found that women supplementing their diet UM we're more likely 486 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 1: to lose weight compared to the placebo. Again, like there's 487 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 1: that that just could be correlation to you never know, 488 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 1: but it makes sense because there's that mind gut connection 489 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 1: where like the vast majority of our serotonin is produced 490 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 1: in our gut and travels up to our brains. Yeah, 491 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 1: well that's what they're the Canadians are thinking exactly that. 492 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 1: As far as stress reduction, they're thinking that's a two 493 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 1: way street there. So what do you do in the 494 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,959 Speaker 1: meantime by the yogurt and just take a bath in it. 495 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 1: That's that's one thing you can do, UM if you 496 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 1: have some especially if you have some sort of gut 497 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 1: related disease or condition. UM, find peer viewed academic articles 498 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 1: on what probiotics may or may not work for that condition, 499 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 1: and then try that. Go find the best ones you 500 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 1: can find are the ones that you trust the most. 501 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 1: UM And the National Institutes of Health actually has a 502 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 1: pretty open minded UM probiotics page. Several probiotics page, but UM, 503 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 1: at least the one I lacked to Basilus gives recommended 504 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 1: doses for different UM I guess bowel conditions. Yeah, I 505 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 1: bet you there's It's probably not the hardest thing to 506 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 1: get some funding for studying this stuff right now. Yeah, 507 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 1: it's probably a good time to be in that research. 508 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 1: The microbiome is so hot right now. Yeah, they're doing 509 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 1: I mean, they're testing all kinds of things that the 510 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 1: lady from Colorado said that, Um, they've done studies and 511 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 1: rodents that suggests that certain microbes might mitigate a high 512 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 1: fat diet. So maybe it could help treat obesity, who knows? 513 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 1: Who knows? This is when we should definitely follow up 514 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 1: on with studio show notes. Oh we will man in 515 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 1: a year, Okay, if we're still doing that show, we are, 516 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 1: by god, you got it? Yeah, I got nothing else. Um, 517 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 1: they won't hurt you. They could help give it a try. 518 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 1: Although again, if you have pancreatitus, look into it. And 519 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 1: again I suggest to not if you really want to 520 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 1: see if it works, go to the nutrition health food store. 521 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 1: Spend a little money on the real deal. Don't buy 522 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:27,479 Speaker 1: the little box at your grocery store that has like 523 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 1: if it has a lot of pictures of people smiling 524 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 1: and things. I say, no, okay, why is words from chuck? Uh? 525 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 1: If you want to know more about probiotics, you can 526 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 1: type that word in the search part how stuff works 527 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 1: dot com. And since I said search part, it's time 528 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 1: for a listener mail. Uh. This is an archaeologist wrote 529 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:50,719 Speaker 1: in to say we did a good job. Guys. I'm 530 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 1: so relieved my faith is maintained. Always knew. Um, you 531 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 1: weren't experts, but you do do a lot of research, 532 00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 1: and so I take things you say with a pinch 533 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 1: of salt. But you were really spot on with my 534 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 1: field of expertise with archaeology. Um, and I'm gonna trust 535 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 1: you more from now on. Since university I've done digs 536 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 1: the Viking Age and York, the Talayokic Bronze Age and Majorca, 537 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 1: and the Hellenic Byzantine period in Georgia. Um, so he's 538 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 1: done a lot of digs. He's touting his dicks. I've 539 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 1: encountered many different archaeological methods and from now and I 540 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 1: think I'll refer to them, refer them to your podcast. 541 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 1: Um though you only use the example of excavating by 542 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 1: meter square holes, which always causes a single tear to 543 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 1: roll down my cheek. An entire site is when an 544 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 1: entire site is done like that. You also mentioned the 545 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 1: B word brush, which must never be spoken of, let 546 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 1: alone used on a dig. It smears what you're excavating. 547 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 1: It makes it hard to see. So apparently they don't brush. 548 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 1: Maybe I bet it's air, canned air or something. Yeah, exactly. 549 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 1: Movies get it wrong then, because everyone uses a brush 550 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 1: in the movies. Everybody knows that maybe this guy is 551 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 1: getting it wrong over movies. Over All, those guys that 552 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 1: give you nine out of ten, you've covered all the 553 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 1: important bits like uni uniformitarianism, the conflict between civil engineers 554 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 1: and archaeologists at a development, the legal antiquities, and the 555 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 1: thorny issue of returning artifacts to their country of origin. 556 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 1: Was that repatriation? Um, you even got the Nazis in there. 557 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 1: I can't tell you about Arians or North Germanic people's 558 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 1: because I'm hardly an expert and don't want to muddy 559 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 1: the waters. But one of my lecturers told us that 560 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 1: the first non combat unit into Stalingrad in the Second 561 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,880 Speaker 1: World War were the s s archaeologists. They were digging 562 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 1: a Bronze age burial mound and earshot of the siege guns. 563 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 1: So that is all the best from will Um, the 564 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 1: archaeologist in Sussex, England and not a fan of brush. 565 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, he says, Sussex UK. Yeah, he just starts 566 00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 1: to bullet there. That was close. Thanks a lot. Will 567 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,719 Speaker 1: we pre ship that We're glad we gained your trust 568 00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 1: or it was fortified by archaeology episode which I think 569 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:09,440 Speaker 1: both of us liked. Uh. 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