1 00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:02,240 Speaker 1: Toys. 2 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 2: I'm a homegrow that knows a little bit about everything 3 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 2: and everybody. 4 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 1: You don't know if you don't lie about that, right, Lauren 5 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: came in. 6 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 2: Hey, y'all, it's Laura le Rosa and this is another 7 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:16,119 Speaker 2: episode of the Latest with Lauren l Rosa. This is 8 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 2: your daily dig on all things pop culture, entertainment, news, exclusives. 9 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:23,479 Speaker 2: Sometimes we do the exclusives here and all of the 10 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 2: conversations that shake the room. Now in this episode of 11 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 2: the Latest, getting right on into some things, because we 12 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 2: got some places to go and some things to talk about. 13 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:36,560 Speaker 2: We're gonna start off with more talk show news, talk show, 14 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 2: Donald Trump. 15 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: And y'all know we cover everything here at the Latest. 16 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:46,480 Speaker 2: I'm not like a heavy political politic conversation er conversation 17 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 2: or I don't know is that a word. Basically, I 18 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:51,519 Speaker 2: don't always talk about politics here, and you guys know 19 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 2: that it's more like pop culture trending topics. But more 20 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 2: lately Trump been coming on over to our side, so 21 00:00:57,800 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 2: we've been talking about him here. 22 00:00:59,040 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: On the Latest. 23 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 2: Last episode, we talked a bit about Donald Trump, because 24 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 2: not even a bit. We took the whole episode and 25 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 2: we talked about Donald Trump. In his spat with Charlemagne. 26 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 2: Now today I'm back again with another one. Because listen, 27 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 2: Trump is never scared. Okay, Trump is always out here 28 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:20,959 Speaker 2: shooting his shot at all of the outraging and just 29 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 2: throwing the pot. So Trump tweeted out Gil's king career, sorry, 30 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 2: not tweeted. Let me get that right, because remember Trump, 31 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:32,759 Speaker 2: he got taken off of X then when he came back, 32 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 2: he uses it. But like he really used. He really 33 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 2: uses his platform, truth social the most. So Trump posting 34 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 2: on truth Social. Gail King's career is over. She should 35 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 2: have stayed with her belief in Trump. She never had 36 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 2: the courage to do so. No talent, no ratings, no strengths. 37 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 2: And he posted this because he was actually reposting and 38 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 2: bringing light to a New York Post article. This New 39 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 2: York Post article was exclusive that the New York Post did, 40 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 2: and that actually drives earlier today where they're reporting based 41 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:08,079 Speaker 2: on sources, that Gail King's career at CBS doing CBS 42 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:11,239 Speaker 2: Mornings is looking murky. And the reason why they're saying 43 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 2: that this is happening, according to their source, is because 44 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 2: they're reporting that the higher ups at the network want 45 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 2: to move away from polarizing coverage. Basically, you know, coverage 46 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 2: that is too woke according to what you know, Trump 47 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 2: and the Trump followers esque will deem as woke. 48 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 1: So, for instance, one of. 49 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 2: The examples that they give here in the article is 50 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 2: that one of the winners from RuPaul's Drag Race was 51 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 2: on CBS Mornings with Gail King and the winner his 52 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 2: name is Bob the Drag Queen. Now, he was publicizing 53 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 2: his first novel, Harriet Tubman Live in concert, right, so 54 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 2: he came on the show to do so. According to 55 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:57,239 Speaker 2: the New York Posts, the CBS Morning's website described the 56 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 2: book as a gender bending story where the historic icon 57 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 2: appears in modern day America to tell her story through 58 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 2: a hip hop album. Now, this is a story that 59 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 2: you know, was previously reported by the Post, but they're 60 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 2: just using it to insert it into this the show. 61 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 2: An example of what the network execs are trying to 62 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 2: get away from. So they point out this episode of 63 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 2: the show because they have a quote and here from 64 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 2: another source of the New York Post does that alleges 65 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 2: that the source told the New York Post that the 66 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 2: audience of CBS Mornings does not want woke. They do 67 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:33,959 Speaker 2: not like progressive and provocative bookings. Now we fast forward 68 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 2: to them pointing to Bob the drag Queen from RuPaul's 69 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 2: Jagged Race, who was on the show promoting a book 70 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 2: about Harriet Tubman and Harriet Tubman finding herself in modern 71 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 2: day time and just telling her story through hip hop. 72 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 2: So they're like, they're talking about things that we don't want. 73 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 2: We know that, you know, they are very even when 74 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 2: they do have political conversations and the guests that they 75 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 2: bring on these political conversations, and the guests do not 76 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 2: run away from being very vocal about how they feel 77 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 2: about President Trump, agreeing or not. And I'm sure this 78 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 2: source or whoever, anybody that's deeming CBS Mornings as a 79 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 2: woke platform would say that a lot of the guests 80 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 2: there are normally critical or President Trump. But you got 81 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 2: to see the pattern that's going on here right now 82 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 2: with Stephen Colbert in the Late Show. When that happened, 83 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 2: CBS pointed to money finances. They talk numbers with Gail 84 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 2: King here in this New York Post article, And again, 85 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 2: all of this stuff from the New York Post is sourced, okay, 86 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 2: so it's not directly coming from anyone a CBS declined 87 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 2: to comment to The New York Post when The New 88 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 2: York Post reached out on this article, although they did 89 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 2: comment on Stephen Colbert's cancelation of his show. The New 90 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 2: York Post points out in this article they alleged that 91 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 2: in the past three weeks, Gail King and her co 92 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 2: host lost between twenty percent and thirty percent of their 93 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 2: audience versus last year, and the advertiser coveted twenty five 94 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 2: to fifty four year old demographic according to Nielsen and 95 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 2: Nielsen for those of you guys who don't know, it's 96 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 2: just a site or it's a data base that is 97 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:06,559 Speaker 2: supposed to be, you know, very accurate when collecting numbers 98 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:08,839 Speaker 2: as far as ratings and people and counts. 99 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 1: So they're pointing to a study by Nielsen. 100 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 2: They do not say when this study was last updated, 101 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:16,720 Speaker 2: but they do use it in this article, which again 102 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 2: came out earlier today. 103 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 1: It is August fifth, five. 104 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 2: And then they go into mentioning that Gail King recently 105 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 2: signed an extension for between thirteen million dollars and fifteen 106 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:31,600 Speaker 2: million dollars of her contract that runs through next May. 107 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:34,720 Speaker 2: According to this well placed source that they're pinning this 108 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 2: whole report on Now. They also point out and like 109 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 2: I said, y'all are seeing a pattern here. They also 110 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 2: point out that that is the same month that CBS 111 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 2: plans to pull the plug on the Late Night Show 112 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 2: with Stephen Colbert. And then once this report comes out, 113 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 2: Donald Trump then goes over to Truth Social amplifies it, 114 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 2: and he says Gail King's career is over. She should 115 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 2: have stayed with her belief in Trump. She never had 116 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 2: the courage to do so. No talent, no ratings, no strength. Now, 117 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:12,159 Speaker 2: Donald Trump has also come out about Kimmel. He tweeted 118 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 2: when Colbert's show was announced to have been canceled. He 119 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 2: has been very vocal against I mean, look, we just 120 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 2: talked about him having the conversation in the back and 121 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:24,599 Speaker 2: forth that he had with Charlemagne because of Charlemage's apparents 122 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:28,600 Speaker 2: on Fox News with Donald Trump's daughter in law Laura Trump. 123 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 2: You gotta see the pattern here. I don't even have 124 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 2: to say it. You see the pattern here. And I 125 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 2: think at this point for me, just in watching all 126 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 2: of this, I was telling a friend the other day 127 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 2: when all the Charlemagne stuff happened, and I've said this 128 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 2: to Charlemagne too, even prior to the Trump situation, Like, 129 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 2: you know, because breakfast Club, I don't know about any 130 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 2: other platform. I know about Breakfast Club because I worked there, 131 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 2: but because Breakfast Club has a variety of opinions, Like 132 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 2: we have conversations with Laura Trump, we have conversations with 133 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 2: people that might not agree with what I personally agree with, 134 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 2: Like I don't agree with a lot of the things, 135 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 2: the majority of the things, honestly, the whole lifestyle of 136 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 2: Donald Trump for the most part. But I'm never opposed 137 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 2: to have a conversation with people who are across the table. 138 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 2: I also feel like, and I agree with the sentiment 139 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 2: of the president is the president at the time, and 140 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 2: you just do whatever you can best to make sure 141 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 2: that that person in that office is, you know, being 142 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 2: the best face and ambassador for what it is that 143 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 2: the people need, no matter where do people sit on 144 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 2: whatever side of the table. 145 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: But it's getting scared, it's getting real tricky out here. 146 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 2: And as a person in the media who you know, 147 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 2: y'all know me, like, I like to. 148 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 1: Lean toward truth. 149 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 2: If I can't figure out who the source is or 150 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 2: source it myself or find it to be fact myself, 151 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 2: I don't like to touch it. I'm very careful about 152 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 2: certain things, but I think it's getting scared because it's like, 153 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 2: if you have an opinion at all, it seems like 154 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 2: that leans away from what our current administration believes should 155 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 2: be the conversation it should be done. 156 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: It gets tough out here for you. 157 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 2: And I will say, you know with Gail King even 158 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 2: having to tell somebody in the media space like, oh, 159 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 2: be careful about you having an honest opinion about something now. 160 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 2: Defamation and things of that nature are completely different because 161 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 2: legally there are certain things that you just can and 162 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 2: can't do when you are in this space, because your 163 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 2: audience is counting on you to be transparent, to be 164 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 2: as neutral as you can be, or to be able 165 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 2: to define when you're not doing certain things, like when 166 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 2: you're giving your opinion about something and you want it 167 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 2: to be known as your opinion, your audience trusts that 168 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:33,439 Speaker 2: you will give your opinion in a way that they 169 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 2: know it's an opinion versus something that they know or 170 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 2: can take and repeat as facts. 171 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 1: Right, But just being able to say how you feel 172 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:45,119 Speaker 1: and not agreeing being. 173 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 2: Something that makes you think, yo, will I have a 174 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 2: job again? It is getting so scary, and it seems 175 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:53,079 Speaker 2: like it's such a pattern. It's like stories break about, 176 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 2: like ratings and show's not doing well, and then Donald 177 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 2: Trump comes and he amplifies those stories, and he has 178 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 2: something to say about what you're doing, how you're doing it, 179 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:06,199 Speaker 2: you know, and listen, this is not new. I mean, 180 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 2: Donald Trump has always operated in the space as more 181 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 2: of like a celebrity in chief, so he's paying attention 182 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 2: to what's happening. He's responding to what's happening. But now 183 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 2: it's starting to result in things not being there anymore, 184 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 2: Stephen Colbert's show not being there anymore, joy read not 185 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 2: being on MSNBC anymore. Those things get scary a bit, 186 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 2: especially when you're sitting in my position. I'm like, yo, 187 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:32,680 Speaker 2: not hello, I'm new here. Just begin building, Please don't 188 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 2: tear down everything. I need somewhere to be at, you 189 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 2: know what I mean. And I was watching Kamala Harris 190 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 2: she did speaking to Stephen Colbert. Kamala Harris is Stephen 191 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 2: Colbert's show, The Late Show, and it's her first interview 192 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 2: since losing the presidency. And now she has this new book, 193 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 2: One hundred and seven Days, which talks about the time 194 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:52,679 Speaker 2: that she had to run for president. 195 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: And it was a very good interview. 196 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 2: It was an interview about everything from what she's been 197 00:09:57,520 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 2: doing now to where her plans are moving forward. And 198 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 2: the news had come out that she did not plan 199 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 2: to run for governor and that, you know, she had 200 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 2: this book coming out, and then she goes on Stephen 201 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 2: Colbert and she says this, I. 202 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 3: Believe, and I always believed that as fragile as our 203 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 3: democracy is, our systems would be strong enough to defend 204 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 3: our most fundamental principles. And I think right now that 205 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 3: they're not as strong as they need to be. And 206 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 3: I just don't want. 207 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: To for now. 208 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 3: I don't want to go back in the system. I 209 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 3: want to travel the country. I want to listen to people. 210 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:39,079 Speaker 3: I want to talk with people, and I don't want 211 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 3: it to be transactional where I'm asking for their vote. Now. 212 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:46,959 Speaker 2: I don't agree with Kamala at all. I understand. I 213 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:50,679 Speaker 2: think what she's trying to say. I think what she's 214 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 2: trying to say is that and I feel like it's 215 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 2: a cover up. To be honest with you, I'll get 216 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 2: to that. I think what she's trying to say is 217 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 2: that you don't have to be a president, a governor, 218 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 2: a mayor, you know, an elected official to be able 219 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 2: to go out in your community, touch people, work for change, 220 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 2: do things that affect people, do things that get changed, 221 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 2: do things that get people what they need. 222 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: And that's where she wants to live now. Like she doesn't. 223 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 2: She's not running away from the smoke, but she's approaching 224 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:20,719 Speaker 2: the smoke differently. You know, she's not tripping off and 225 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 2: not being an elected official and all of the things 226 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:25,559 Speaker 2: that come with it. And she talked about, you know, 227 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 2: because when Steven Colbert opened interview, the first thing he 228 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 2: asked her was, you know, have you got some sleep? 229 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 1: How are you? Let's take listen to her answer. It's 230 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:40,079 Speaker 1: nice to see you again. It's great to be First 231 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 1: of all, you look rested. Yeah, I'm happy for you. 232 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:48,199 Speaker 1: Thank you you doing wa Oh, I'm fine. I'll get 233 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 1: fenty arrest in June. Yeah. 234 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 2: So they hear her say that, right, She's had some 235 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 2: time to reflect and I guess really put into you know, 236 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 2: and really prioritize what's important for her at this point 237 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 2: in her life, whether that's being with family, getting to 238 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 2: spend time with her husband, her nieces, who she talks 239 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 2: so much about and just not being in the eye 240 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 2: of all of the scrutiny. Like I'm thinking about Gail King, 241 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 2: I'm thinking about Joy read right, and I mean, Stephen 242 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 2: Colbert is unfortunate that his show is going off air, 243 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 2: especially because it doesn't make any sense and it feels 244 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 2: like censoring. But I'm thinking about these black women in 245 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 2: this space because I can identify with them. Of course 246 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 2: I can, because I'm a black woman in a media space. 247 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 2: I can identify with them a lot differently. And one 248 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 2: of the first things I thought about was, man like, 249 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 2: you have to deal with people caring about what you wear, 250 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 2: how you wear, what's your hair look like, what's your 251 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 2: makeup look like? 252 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: Are you overdressed? Are you underdressed? 253 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:48,719 Speaker 2: The body type, what language you use, what language you 254 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 2: don't use, are you smiling? Who are you standing next to? 255 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:53,839 Speaker 2: Who's this man that you're seting next to? Are you 256 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 2: dating him? Are you like? There's so many things that 257 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 2: just women in general have to deal with it, especially 258 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 2: when you're in a spotlight. And then Black women who 259 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:03,199 Speaker 2: aren't afraid to speak out when they feel a way 260 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 2: about something, when they don't agree with something, who aren't 261 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 2: afraid to stand next to presidential candidates and now on 262 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 2: top of all the things that society and just people 263 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 2: in general, and I feel like, you know, talking about 264 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 2: being WHOA. I don't want to sound who either, because 265 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 2: that's not my thing. I just like to I just 266 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 2: like to say how I feel, and how I feel 267 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 2: right now is like Yo, it's so much other things 268 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 2: that you deal with on a day to day trying 269 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 2: to figure out life, career and all the things. And 270 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 2: don't get me wrong, I'm of course a lot younger 271 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:35,439 Speaker 2: than Kamala Harris. Kamala Harris has had an amazing career. 272 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 2: She you know, is living her life. She's not complaining 273 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 2: about things. That's not what this that clip was. But 274 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 2: I'm just thinking about all of the microaggressions and just 275 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 2: the different silent battles that she's had to face and 276 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 2: will honestly continue to have to face for the rest 277 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 2: of her life. Because she's Kamala Harris, who was once 278 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 2: vice president and she's a black woman vice president and 279 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 2: she ran for the presidency and she did not win it, 280 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 2: and she would have been the first black woman president 281 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:04,839 Speaker 2: and just all these things right that she's going to 282 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 2: have to answer and speak to and never be able 283 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 2: to get around for the rest of her life. That 284 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 2: she then has to couple with everything that, like she 285 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 2: was just once you come out the wound and you 286 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 2: walk a baby, your first flick of the hair as 287 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 2: a black woman, you got to learn how to deal 288 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 2: with issue and society and the people. So then you 289 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 2: bring all this extra spotlight and you know, politics is 290 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 2: such a everything to be in and I just can't imagine. 291 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 2: So I understand where she's coming from, but I don't 292 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 2: agree with her. I don't feel like I do feel 293 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 2: like everybody has a place in change, but I do 294 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 2: feel like there are certain people who get the privilege 295 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 2: or the honor to have, you know, elected official status, 296 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 2: and I don't think that those people should ever back 297 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 2: away from trying. And it sounds to me like, and listen, 298 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 2: maybe I'm reading in between the lines here, y'all. Let 299 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 2: me know what y'all took from it. Get in the comments, 300 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 2: get outside, in the tweets, in the streets, let me know, 301 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 2: be outside, we outside, we outside. 302 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 1: Okay, every other page, I'm loring the roads everywhere. 303 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 2: How you guys felt, it sounded to me like as 304 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 2: well rested as she said that she was, and you know, 305 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 2: as much as she's probably been able to, you know, 306 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 2: prioritize and just think about what's important and what she 307 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 2: don't want to deal with no more in her life. Man, 308 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 2: I know that feeling in her life. I think that 309 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 2: there's a responsibility that you can't ever escape as a 310 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 2: black person. And I think that she sounds tired still, 311 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 2: Like she's tired. She sounds fed up, but she's making 312 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 2: it look good. She's making it sound good. And we 313 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 2: as black women do that all the time. Man, We 314 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 2: do that all the time, and we're so good at 315 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 2: it because for so so long, and you know, different generations, 316 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 2: like you're literally taught that, like you're taught to turn 317 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 2: the house into a home, you're taught to nurture, you're 318 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 2: taught to do so much that pours into other people 319 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 2: and other things. 320 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 1: And when I just told y'all, like man. 321 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 2: I felt that, like she's probably just tired of the bullshit. Like, 322 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 2: if I'm being honest with y'all, I get it. But 323 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 2: I think we need her in the position, and I 324 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 2: think that I don't understand where her purpose goes from here. 325 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 1: If I'm being honest with you, I think. 326 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 2: That no matter how tired she might feel right now, 327 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 2: no matter what happened in that office, no matter you know, 328 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 2: I'm sure she's tided of being asked about why she 329 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 2: didn't tell the truth about President Biden and all the things. 330 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 2: No matter how much that is getting on your nerves. 331 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 2: Your purpose is your purpose, and I just don't see 332 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 2: her getting away from public service. I can't, and I 333 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 2: honestly think we need people like Kamala Harris in public service, 334 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 2: but we need people like Kamala Harris in a way 335 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 2: where Kamala Harris is able to be the person that 336 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 2: we watching these interviews. 337 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 1: Who yo. 338 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 2: When Kamala Harris hat down with Oprah during her presidential campaign, 339 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 2: I was like, if she could be like this everywhere 340 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 2: she went, we good, especially in the White House. Like 341 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 2: we good because this is what we wanted from her 342 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 2: in the White House when we voted for Biden. I 343 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 2: voted for Biden because Kamala Harris was the VP on 344 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 2: the ticket and I thought that she'd be able to 345 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 2: keep things in check. I don't feel like she was 346 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 2: empowered the way that she should have been. And I mean, 347 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:06,640 Speaker 2: people say, well, she's just vice president, but we all 348 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 2: know what the We know what it was given, we 349 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:11,479 Speaker 2: know why we went so hard for Biden in that election, 350 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 2: and I really don't think she was empowered the way 351 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:15,880 Speaker 2: that she should have. I felt like she was put 352 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 2: in the shadow of everything Biden nomics when she went 353 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 2: to run, and I feel like by her not being 354 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:25,719 Speaker 2: able to come out and just really speak how she 355 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 2: wants to speak and do what she wants to do 356 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 2: and tell the truth and have to be loyal to 357 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 2: the Democratic Party, which again I'm not blaming her for it, 358 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:36,159 Speaker 2: because as a black woman, I understand that, you know, 359 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 2: sometimes even going against the even when you want to 360 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:42,160 Speaker 2: go up against the fire and stick it out, continue 361 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 2: to be in presidential offices and all these things and 362 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 2: all the things of the nature, you don't have the 363 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 2: resources you're supposed to have to do so to be 364 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 2: able to actually do it where it's effective and it's 365 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 2: not just a freaking fight and mental tirade of like 366 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 2: you're breaking yourself down every single day. So I understand 367 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:02,439 Speaker 2: her and I get where she's coming from, but I 368 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 2: don't agree that she can be as impactful now. 369 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 1: She can have impact, don't get me wrong, And I'm not. 370 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:12,119 Speaker 2: Taking away from what she'll do, because look, I'm not 371 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 2: out here public serving every single day, so people that are, 372 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 2: I feel like that's not even my place to kind 373 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 2: of like you're no critique or talk about as much. 374 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:23,160 Speaker 2: But and just you know, for take of this conversation, 375 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 2: I think we need hers, Like she talked about having 376 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 2: people in certain places when it comes to this whole 377 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 2: government thing, this whole politic thing, I think we need 378 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 2: her inside of the system that she says she don't 379 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 2: want to be a part of. For a little minute, 380 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 2: we need her there for sure. And lastly, up in 381 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:48,360 Speaker 2: the latest, I was reading a article on my way 382 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 2: over to film the show today because Scott Mills from 383 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:57,399 Speaker 2: BEET sat down with Billboard and I'm pulling up the 384 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 2: article right now. When we talk about resources, people always 385 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 2: have a conversation around BT and what BT does with 386 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 2: what they do well, what they don't do well, what 387 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 2: we need, what we should see, all of the things. 388 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 2: So Scott Mills has been doing some interviews. BT is 389 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:16,120 Speaker 2: celebrating forty five years of the network and being one 390 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 2: of the leading black media platforms. So Scott Mills, the 391 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 2: CEO at BET, you know, sat down with Billboard to 392 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:24,919 Speaker 2: talk about a pledge to continue to always be a 393 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 2: leading media platform for black people and four Black Things 394 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 2: and Black content. Now, during this interview, the journalist acts, 395 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 2: Scott Mills, can you confirm the chatter that two of 396 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 2: the annual shows and BT Awards franchise, the Soul Trained 397 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 2: and Hip Hop Awards, So Salt Train Awards and it's separately, 398 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 2: the BT Hip Hop Awards are no longer going to 399 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 2: be presented. 400 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 1: So they're done? Are they done or not? 401 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 2: And he says it's less about them being no longer 402 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 2: and more about our team having to reimagine them for 403 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 2: this changing media landscape that we find ourselves in. I 404 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 2: think that we're going to see more people taking franchises 405 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:00,119 Speaker 2: and saying this might have started on linear television, but 406 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 2: now I'm gonna move it to another space. Do I 407 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 2: move it to streaming or do I make it another platform? 408 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 2: So for BT linear, we have suspended the Soul Train 409 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:11,360 Speaker 2: and Hip Hop Awards. Show beet is announcing that they 410 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 2: have suspended the BT Hip Hop Awards and the BT 411 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 2: Soul trend of the wards. Y'all list is insane because 412 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:21,919 Speaker 2: suspend it is suspended, like doesn't mean indefinite. But I 413 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 2: do think that there is something to having to take 414 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:27,159 Speaker 2: it off of TV, to have to figure out what 415 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 2: to do with it, versus it being such a vehicle 416 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 2: and be built up enough where it stays on linear 417 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 2: until you make that transition just because you wanted to 418 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 2: move forward strong to match where we are right now, 419 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 2: which is what Scott Mills is saying. To me, this 420 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 2: sounds like a roundabout answer to say it's not doing 421 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 2: well on linear TV and we need to figure out 422 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:48,680 Speaker 2: something else for it, because they are coveted shows and 423 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:52,400 Speaker 2: something across digital is a lot easier to execute as 424 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:54,439 Speaker 2: far as like you know, keeping something on linear, you 425 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:58,160 Speaker 2: need certain numbers, you need advertising dollars, you need money, 426 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 2: You still want to need coins to produce an award 427 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 2: show on digital, don't get me wrong, But to have 428 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 2: it across linear TV, especially where it's taking up a 429 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 2: slot where advertisers might want to put something else or 430 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 2: might be asking for something that is reaching more people, 431 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 2: are a larger, stronger demographic, that is a big like 432 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:20,159 Speaker 2: this is a big statement that Scott Mills is making now. 433 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 2: I will say I feel like what BT has done 434 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 2: with the NAACP Image Awards over the years, even like 435 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 2: last year, the show has gotten. Production is amazing, the 436 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,440 Speaker 2: quality and that goes into the dollars that are being 437 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 2: put behind it. 438 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 1: I love to see the celebrities showing up for the 439 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 1: show as well. 440 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 2: Like the NAACP Image Awards have had some pretty big 441 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 2: shows these last couple of years now. The second question 442 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:47,159 Speaker 2: the journalists followed up with was they asked about the 443 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five BT Awards viewership dropped almost fifty percent 444 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 2: in the key demographic, which is eighteen to forty nine 445 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 2: demo from last year's show. Are there concerns about the 446 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:59,360 Speaker 2: longevity of that long standing show, so, he said? 447 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 1: Scott Mills said, as yourship was down. 448 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 2: However, the cable ecosystem is smaller today, and that's what 449 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 2: I'm saying by when he talking about taking Assault Train 450 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 2: Awards off of linear TV. That's why to me it's like, Okay, 451 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 2: this is saying something because it is very hard to 452 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 2: get something on linear TV today. And it's not because 453 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 2: people aren't watching. I mean, yes, less people are watching 454 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:24,120 Speaker 2: live TV, people are watching things on streaming, people are 455 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:27,440 Speaker 2: bulk watching things. You know, you have the Netflixes, Amazon Primes. 456 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 2: BT Plus was created, that's one of their vehicles because 457 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 2: people are streaming, but there are still pockets of television 458 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 2: where you do gather people and you get numbers. But 459 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,680 Speaker 2: it's not as easy anymore because it's smaller. There's less 460 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:43,920 Speaker 2: people watching, so you're fighting hard. 461 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 1: You're fighting very. 462 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,919 Speaker 2: Very hard for that viewership, especially to maintain it year 463 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:50,640 Speaker 2: to year to year to year. So he says, yeah, 464 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 2: that's just the reality of it. You know, the ecosystem 465 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 2: is way smaller today. But he says, you know, he 466 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 2: gave a shout out to Connie Orlando, who is the EVP, 467 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 2: the Executive vice president of Specials, Music Programming and Music Strategy, 468 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 2: and her creative team who delivered an amazing twenty fifth 469 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 2: anniversary show for BT. 470 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 1: They did the one on sixth and Park Anniversary. 471 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:12,640 Speaker 2: During the show, I was in LA for the BT 472 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 2: Awards and it felt so good to hear that BT 473 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 2: is struggling in the space of award shows at all. 474 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 2: It's kind of disheartening because being at the BT Awards 475 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 2: this year, it felt like the old days, like big 476 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,639 Speaker 2: stars were there, people dressed up, it was classy, it 477 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 2: was an event. It felt like a a night of 478 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 2: regal and of like black excellence. So it made you 479 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 2: feel like, Okay, we're back, like the R Awards shows, 480 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 2: like you know, we didn't. Fully it's not like it 481 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 2: shut the whole world down, but for real, for real, 482 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:44,120 Speaker 2: it did. 483 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 1: Like everybody was talking about the BT Awards. 484 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 2: Everybody was talking about how it looked, how it felt, 485 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 2: all the things. So he's saying, look, that show just 486 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 2: went down and it went amazing, So I want to 487 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 2: give her credit for that. But because this was one 488 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,640 Speaker 2: of the best BT Awards, he says that he's ever seen. 489 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 2: So he's saying, the ecosystem has changed, and that is 490 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 2: probably one of the issues. But at the same time, 491 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 2: let's not just lean on that they did move the 492 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 2: night of the show. Now, I'm gonna tell you guys something, 493 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 2: every year since I can remember, the BT Awards has 494 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,920 Speaker 2: been on Sunday Night, which was it was a very 495 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:15,399 Speaker 2: big deal that they moved it. 496 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 1: But this was a huge year for the BT. 497 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,679 Speaker 2: Awards, Like there was Kevin Hart hosted that, you had 498 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,679 Speaker 2: Drew Ski and Kay Sanat doing live streaming from it. 499 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:26,119 Speaker 2: There was just a lot that went down during the 500 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,119 Speaker 2: BT Awards this year. But he is saying that in 501 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 2: twenty twenty six are going to move back to Sunday, 502 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:33,239 Speaker 2: which I think makes sense because the BT Awards are 503 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 2: so all surrounded by the BT experience and people. It's 504 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 2: kind of like almost like Essence Festival. You know, Essence 505 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,160 Speaker 2: Festival happens around four for July. It's like the Famer 506 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 2: of Reunion, you know, every year around what time your 507 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:43,439 Speaker 2: family reunion's happening. 508 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: With the BT Awards, it's the same thing with the timing. 509 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 2: But also to one of the only reasons why I 510 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:51,639 Speaker 2: wouldn't be mad about because again, we're talking about resources. 511 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 3: Right. 512 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 1: We went from Gil. 513 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 2: King, who is few of many black faces on you know, 514 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 2: morning daytime television cable network TV. We're talking about Kamala Harris, 515 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,239 Speaker 2: who is one of one in her space, and just 516 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:07,159 Speaker 2: resources in a fight that it is. And then we 517 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:10,399 Speaker 2: get to BT in that conversation, which is crazy because 518 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 2: you know CBS and that whole big merger just happened, 519 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 2: and you. 520 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 1: Talk about resources. 521 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 2: Scott Mills is I'm sure behind the scenes having to 522 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:22,360 Speaker 2: have conversations about what does what does a Trump administration 523 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:27,439 Speaker 2: CBS paramount merger, you know, look like because of all 524 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 2: the sky Dance stuff. He said in this interview that 525 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 2: he's not really worried about it, and he you know, 526 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 2: he's not gonna speak to that. 527 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:35,879 Speaker 1: But man, if I'm him, you have to look at 528 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 1: what's happening. 529 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 2: And if so, if you are looking at what's happening, 530 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 2: you're basically looking at the fact that, like all the edgy, 531 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 2: hard conversations for us by US. 532 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 1: Trump ain't gonna go for that for too long whatsoever. 533 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 2: So what I was gonna just say is is like 534 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 2: when you're thinking about resources, if resources are thinning out 535 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 2: in certain spaces, I say, le's laser in and focused. 536 00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,439 Speaker 2: So instead of maybe you know, and this is just 537 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:01,919 Speaker 2: this is just me thinking as a viewer and as 538 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:02,880 Speaker 2: a concept producer. 539 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,639 Speaker 1: It's like, Okay, maybe we take the Whole Train. 540 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 2: Awards too digital and we make it something that is 541 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 2: a smaller vehicle, but we lean it in the Hip 542 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 2: Hop Awards, but we leaning even heavier to the BET 543 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 2: Awards and make that the thing right like that is 544 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 2: the big one, that is the one that's on TV, 545 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 2: you know, and everything else is a smaller vehicle, and 546 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,479 Speaker 2: they all get like one hand shows the other, so 547 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 2: they all lead into each other. Maybe they do it 548 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 2: that way. There just needs to be a connectivity of sorts. 549 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:28,959 Speaker 1: I don't know. 550 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 2: I always say a bunch of things I know and 551 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 2: be like, I don't know, right, But things are just different, y'all. 552 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,919 Speaker 1: The media landscape right now is just different. 553 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 2: My grandmother always says to me the world is gonna 554 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,159 Speaker 2: come to an end soon, that Jesus is on his 555 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 2: way back. When anytime anything happens, like she go to 556 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 2: the grocery store and they don't got her water. My 557 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 2: grandmother buys deer Park. They don't got her deer Park water. Baby, 558 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 2: the ends of times is coming. I went to the 559 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 2: grocery store. It ain't got my waters no more. You 560 00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 2: need to start saving your money. Y'all know how y'all 561 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 2: grandma talk, Especially if your grandmother is a black woman. 562 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 1: You know, y'all know how they talk. 563 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 2: My grandmother has been telling me to prepare for the 564 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 2: end of times for the last ten years. I am 565 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,639 Speaker 2: finally at the age and I don't know if it's 566 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:14,719 Speaker 2: just because of everything that is happening, or if I 567 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 2: really do feel like this. 568 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 1: Maybe it's a mixture of the two. 569 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 2: I'm finally at the age when she calls me and say, baby, 570 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 2: it's the end of times. 571 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 1: I say, you know what. 572 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,119 Speaker 2: You're right what you told me to do again instead 573 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:27,880 Speaker 2: of just being like mo, mom, what are you talking about? 574 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 2: It's like the things that I'm watching happening right now. 575 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 2: I never it's like something out of a sitcom or movie. 576 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:37,120 Speaker 2: I never thought that I would see, honestly, like from 577 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 2: our president and a lot of the things that are 578 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 2: happening with the administration. You know, people lose jobs every day, unfortunately, 579 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 2: but man, my friends in entertainment right now, BET did 580 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:53,160 Speaker 2: major layoffs. I have friends in every creative industry from 581 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:58,200 Speaker 2: music to fashion that like are just losing jobs left 582 00:27:58,280 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 2: and right. 583 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 1: My old job, like where I used. 584 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 2: To work TMZ, they did huge firings as well, and 585 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 2: I never thought that was happening. Shows were getting canceled 586 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 2: left and right when I was in that news room. 587 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 2: And one thing Harvey was always good about was ensuring 588 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 2: us that we would still be working because of the 589 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 2: vehicle and how it goes. And I mean, it's just 590 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:20,640 Speaker 2: it's crazy to see it. It's crazy to see, it's 591 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:22,920 Speaker 2: crazy to think about it. And again that's why I'm 592 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 2: like yo, I understand common of being like yo, I 593 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 2: don't want no parts of this take me on vacation, 594 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 2: read my book. I'll show up in the communities with 595 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:32,639 Speaker 2: my chuck tailors on and my laugh and my he 596 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 2: he hah giggle. But baby, life is too short and 597 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 2: it's coming to an end anyway. Let's live our best lives. 598 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 2: This has been the latest with Laura l. 599 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 3: Roza. 600 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 2: I am Laura l Rosa. Thank you guys for tuning 601 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 2: in for another episode. Make sure you subscribe click the subscribe, 602 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 2: but click the bill actually, because y'all need to know. 603 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 2: Every single time an episode is uploaded, y'all ask me 604 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 2: for the visuals. We then got the visual shout out 605 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 2: to guy House here in New Jersey. Make sure you 606 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 2: guys are tuned in. I tell you guys at the 607 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 2: end of every episode that at the end of the day, 608 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 2: there's always so much to talk about, and you guys 609 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 2: could be anywhere with anybody as they talk about it. 610 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 2: But my lowriders all one million plus of y'all, I 611 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 2: think we add two million at this point. 612 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 1: Y'all are always right here with me to do it. 613 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 2: I appreciate you guys so much and I will see 614 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 2: you in my next episode.