1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Klay, Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:05,280 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 2: Walking Again our number two reacting to the Iowa caucuses 4 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 2: last night, dominant win for Donald Trump to Santas second, 5 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:20,279 Speaker 2: Nikki Haley, third, Veke Ramaswami for the veg drops out 6 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:23,600 Speaker 2: last night and now we have a three way race. 7 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 2: Although both Buck and myself believe this race is over, 8 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 2: Trump is going to be the nominee. The people of 9 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 2: Iowa spoke loudly and clearly, thirty point win for Donald Trump. Now, 10 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 2: this is going to be big. All of you out there, 11 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 2: the millions of you in this listening audience, are going 12 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 2: to be exposed to the whole truth of the twenty 13 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 2: twenty four presidential campaign. 14 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 3: We're not just going. 15 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 2: To play you talking points from the Trump side. We 16 00:00:56,560 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 2: want you to be well versed in all talking points 17 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 2: because it's important for us who believe that Joe Biden 18 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 2: must be beaten. 19 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:09,040 Speaker 3: Buck is in that camp. I'm in that camp. 20 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 2: Virtually every person that is listening to this show right 21 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 2: now is in this camp. But you have friends and 22 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:17,919 Speaker 2: family who aren't in that camp. You've got an aunt 23 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 2: who maybe voted for Trump in twenty sixteen, and she 24 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 2: flipped and voted for Joe Biden in twenty twenty because 25 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 2: she didn't like Trump's tweets. You've got a son or 26 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 2: daughter who refuses to vote for Donald Trump even though 27 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 2: they know that Joe Biden is doing an awful job. 28 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 2: Every single one of us, a coworker, a relative, every 29 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 2: single one of us a friend, has people in that camp. 30 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 3: You don't win. 31 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 2: Comfortably as we all want to do in twenty twenty 32 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 2: four just by speaking to the base. That's what the 33 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 2: primary is about. The primary is now in our opinion 34 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 2: over Trump is going to be the nominee. How do 35 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 2: we make it such that by eleven o'clock Eastern on 36 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 2: election Night in November, Rachel Maddow is crying on air? 37 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:23,080 Speaker 2: How do we make it that Jake Tapper is in tears, 38 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 2: that every CNN and MSNBC viewer is distraught, and we 39 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 2: don't have to wait for three am ballot dumps to 40 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 2: change anything because the landslide is so clear. Nothing can 41 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 2: change it. Well, you have to penetrate sometimes through what 42 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 2: is a cone and isolation, an island of dishonesty, which 43 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 2: is what's going on at MSNBC and CNN, and most 44 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 2: of you probably were not watching MSNBC or CNN last night. 45 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 3: Did yousten over at all? Buck, Yeah, well, I certainly 46 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 3: was looking. I'd scroll through Twitter to find their clips. 47 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 3: But as a general pro tip, when Republicans are kicking 48 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 3: butt on election night, turn on CNNA. And I know 49 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 3: it wasn't against a Democrat, but you know they're terrified 50 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:14,119 Speaker 3: of Trump. The best viewing experience is to watch all 51 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 3: the blood drained from the faces of CNN and MSNBC hosts, 52 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 3: for their jaws to hit the table, for the crying 53 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 3: to begin. That's really entertainment. Okay. 54 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 2: So I want you, though, to be aware of what 55 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 2: those people that you're trying. 56 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 3: To persuade may be seen. 57 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 2: This was MSNBC last night as Donald Trump was preparing 58 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 2: to give his victory speech. Listen to what MSNBC's viewers 59 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 2: heard from Rachel Maddow. 60 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 4: At this point in the evening, the projected winner of 61 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 4: the Iowa caucuses has just started giving his victory speech. 62 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 4: We will keep an eye on that as it happens. 63 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 4: We will let you know if there's any news made 64 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 4: in that speech, If there's anything or are they something 65 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 4: substantive and important the reason I'm saying this is, of course, 66 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 4: there is a reason that we and other news organizations 67 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 4: have generally stopped giving an unfiltered live platform to remarks 68 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 4: by former President Trump. 69 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 3: It is not out of spite. 70 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 4: It is not a decision. 71 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 3: That we relish. 72 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 4: It is a decision that we regularly revisit and honestly, earnestly, 73 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 4: it is not an easy decision. But there is a 74 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:29,280 Speaker 4: cost to us as a news organization of knowingly broadcasting 75 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 4: untrue things. 76 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 2: Buck they won't even allow Trump to be heard by 77 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 2: their audience to make the case for why they should 78 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 2: be supporting him. This is the reality. I'll point this out. 79 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 2: Fox News gets ripped to the high heavens. They carry 80 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 2: Joe Biden press briefings and Joe Biden's. 81 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:58,280 Speaker 3: Speeches all the time. It's news. Amen. If that's not news, 82 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 3: nothing is news. I mean, like, if you're not going 83 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 3: to say a presidential speech or an election night victory 84 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 3: speech doesn't qualify as news. You got to call yourself 85 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 3: something else, become a cooking channel. But if you're not 86 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:15,359 Speaker 3: going to cover this stuff, you are not a news organization. 87 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 3: But as we all know, MSNBC and CNN haven't been 88 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 3: news organizations in a long time. In fact, bringing it 89 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 3: back to that, I know I've talked about it too 90 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 3: much already that Brett Stevens op ed. He brought up 91 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:30,479 Speaker 3: that there is no argument against the fact that journalism, 92 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 3: you know, sort of major corporate journalism against Trump. Came 93 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:38,479 Speaker 3: out and said Washingt Post, New York Times that journalism 94 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 3: is anti Trump because the truth is anti Trump. So 95 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:43,600 Speaker 3: this is not even a discussion at this point. So 96 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 3: we all know what they're going to do, what they're 97 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:46,160 Speaker 3: going to say. 98 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think this is important too, because this 99 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:52,840 Speaker 2: is going to be a major battleground of twenty twenty four. 100 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 2: The number one thing that should not be spensered sensored 101 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 2: is candidate speech. How can you make a rational decision 102 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 2: as a voter for which candidate you're going to support 103 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 2: if you aren't able to see the candidate and what 104 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 2: the candidate believes. This is the very foundation of democracy itself. 105 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 2: Recognize what's going on here. MSNBC is saying, the chief 106 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 2: political opponent of the sitting president of the United States 107 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 2: cannot be seen or heard on their program live making 108 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:30,919 Speaker 2: his political arguments. 109 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:33,719 Speaker 3: He must be censored for. 110 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 2: Fear of what their viewers might hear this is you 111 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 2: want to talk about the foundation of an attack on democracy. 112 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:47,039 Speaker 2: You're not even allowing the nominee, presumptive nominee of the 113 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:51,039 Speaker 2: Republican Party, to be heard on your airwaves making the 114 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 2: argument for why he should be the nominee. And by 115 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:56,799 Speaker 2: the way, this is not just MSNBC. They at least 116 00:06:56,839 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 2: showed a little bit of it on CNN. But Jake 117 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 2: Tapper cut in right as Trump started to talk about 118 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:06,039 Speaker 2: illegal immigration and how he wanted to stop it. 119 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 5: Listen, We're going to seal up the border. 120 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 3: Because right now we have an invasion. 121 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 5: We have an invasion of millions and millions of people 122 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 5: that are coming into our country. I can't imagine why 123 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 5: they think that's a good thing. 124 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 6: Donald Trump declaring victory with a historically strong showing in 125 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 6: the Iowa caucuses. If these numbers hold, the biggest victory 126 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 6: for a non and coment president in the modern era 127 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 6: for this contest, A relatively subdued speech as these things 128 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 6: go so far, although here he is right now under 129 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 6: my voice, you hear him repeating his anti immigrant rhetoric. 130 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 3: I mean, look, let's say this is they would never 131 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 3: do this to a Democrat candidate. It shows you exactly 132 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 3: what the what the move is going to be over 133 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 3: the CNN is now going to pretend like it's gone 134 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 3: back toward journalism, but it's actually just going back toward 135 00:07:56,760 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 3: anti trump ism, and and it's it's honestly, it's I mean, 136 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 3: if you're going to be a journalist, it is disrespectful, 137 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 3: I think to speak over a candidate giving a victory 138 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 3: speech in an American statewide election, right, I mean, let's 139 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 3: start establishing some of these ground rules now. And you 140 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 3: know it's not I'm not even directing this at any 141 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 3: one individual or any one organization. I think that the 142 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 3: rule should be if you're not going to cover a 143 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 3: victory speech of an American presidential candidate in a duly 144 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 3: constituted election, you're not a news organization and you're not 145 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 3: doing journalism. 146 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 2: Also, to label it anti immigrant, it's not even just 147 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 2: that he stepped onto Trump's speech, because I could see 148 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 2: if you're out there and you're saying, hey, we're only 149 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:45,319 Speaker 2: going to cover ten minutes of the speech, right, and 150 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 2: then we're going to go back to analysis something like that, 151 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:51,680 Speaker 2: if it's a relatively evenly applied rule. But he cut 152 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 2: him off right as he's making probably the most compelling 153 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 2: argument against Biden, which is you book at the data, 154 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 2: tu Buck. Biden is underwater on a lot of issues, 155 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 2: none of them are as bad as the border. 156 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 3: And then to label it as an anti immigrant stands. 157 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 2: Trump has been very clear he wants a big wall 158 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 2: with a big gate, right. He wants legal immigration to 159 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:14,679 Speaker 2: be able to continue. 160 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 3: He just doesn't want an illegal immigration to be able 161 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:17,559 Speaker 3: to occur. 162 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 2: It's not anti immigrant to be a favor of opposed 163 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 2: to illegal immigrant. 164 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 3: Well, the first step, the first game of Democrat propaganda 165 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:30,679 Speaker 3: around immigration in the border is always to conflate and 166 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:33,439 Speaker 3: just make it hard to talk about in the process, 167 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 3: conflate illegal and legal immigration. He's anti immigrant. Donald Trump 168 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 3: is married to an immigrant, and it's not his first one. 169 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 2: And he was praising his mother in law, who unfortunately 170 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 2: just passed, who was also an immigrant. 171 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 3: I mean, this is lit like when they were saying, 172 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 3: you know, Donald Trump is an anti Semite. I'm like, 173 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 3: I mean, his daughter is a convert to Judaism, his 174 00:09:57,360 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 3: son in law is Jewish, and those are two of 175 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 3: the people that are closest to in the whole world. 176 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 3: And is jeely grandchildren, is Jewish grandchildren, and the Israeli 177 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 3: people overwhelmingly love Donald Trump. And you know when all 178 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 3: the polls when they asked them, what do you think 179 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 3: of the American print, and yeah, he's an anti sem. 180 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 3: I mean, if they look, they'll say anything, they'll say anything, 181 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 3: but a perfect you know what, actually here we hold 182 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 3: I want to hold this Joe Scarborough on the say 183 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:24,319 Speaker 3: anything side of things, they're going full delusion now, they're 184 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 3: they're going full rejection of reality over there on the 185 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 3: Scarborough pedal about what just happened in Iowa. 186 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 2: I want to play we didn't play it yet, right, No, no, no, 187 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 2: let's play it when we Let's play it when we 188 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 2: come back. Let's say that when we'll play the Scarborough. 189 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 2: But the reason why I play these things and the 190 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 2: reason why we share them with you on this show 191 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 2: is again, we want you to persuade people. We're in 192 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 2: now the persuasion market. 193 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 3: Right. It's great if. 194 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 2: You are out there and you are the most died 195 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 2: in the wool Trump supporter on the planet, and you 196 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 2: have done everything you can to elect Trump and you've 197 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 2: shown up at one hundred rallies like he brought up 198 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 2: last night, the guy in the brick jacket wall Man 199 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 2: or whatever the guy's name is. He brought him up 200 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:09,439 Speaker 2: on the stage, which is a pretty funny element of that. 201 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 2: And by the way, before we go to break, let 202 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 2: me play this because I mentioned it. Here's Trump talking 203 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 2: about Milania's mother dying. She is again an immigrant. So 204 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 2: if you're going to be anti immigrant, what the world's 205 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 2: that even made? 206 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 3: Listen to this? Cut seven? 207 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 5: I think most importantly, I want to thank my incredible wife, 208 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:26,959 Speaker 5: the first. 209 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 7: Lady i'll say former and maybe. 210 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 5: Future, but more important than Milania. I want to thank 211 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 5: her incredible, beautiful mother who passed away a few days ago. 212 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:41,439 Speaker 1: And she's up there. 213 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 3: Way up there. 214 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 5: She's looking down and she's so proud of us, and 215 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:47,680 Speaker 5: I just want to say to Amalia, you are special, 216 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 5: one of the most special people I've ever known. And 217 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:53,559 Speaker 5: that was a tough period of time for the family, 218 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:57,959 Speaker 5: but she's amazing, She was amazing. So I just want 219 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 5: to thank what she's done for Aly. 220 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 2: Okay, so just a total lie from Jake Taffer. But 221 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 2: understand what's going on at CNN and MSNBC and what 222 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 2: your friends or family might be seeing and not seeing. 223 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 2: You're gonna be better informed. I guarantee you listening to 224 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 2: this show for the next ten months than almost any 225 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 2: media outlet out there, certainly way better than anything that's 226 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 2: going on at MSNBCD. 227 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 3: And we're not gonna hide anything about Biden or the 228 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 3: Democrats or whatever they're doing, because people don't necessarily want 229 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 3: to hear that, oh, guys, they're gaining here or here's 230 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 3: just you know, we want to be as open and 231 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:36,839 Speaker 3: transparent about what the other side is, you know what 232 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 3: I mean. Yeah, the Democrat thing is they they can't 233 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 3: even air Trump because Trump is so upseting to their audience. 234 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:45,079 Speaker 3: If Democrats are doing something you need to know about, 235 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 3: we're gonna talk about it here. We're not gonna say, oh, 236 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 3: let's not talk about the you know, the stratagems that 237 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 3: they're using. 238 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 2: No doubt, I want to tell you as we got 239 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 2: a break, we'll play that cut for you from our 240 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 2: good buddy Joe Scarborough when we come back in the meantime. 241 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 2: Podcast listeners, have you heard about the series called Our 242 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,559 Speaker 2: American Stories? 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You remember, for anyone who 264 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 3: forgot this was a big Trump booster in the early 265 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 3: days of twenty sixteen actually and was having you know, 266 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 3: lots of off the record meetings with Trump and everything else, 267 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 3: and then realize you want those checks, you want those 268 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 3: millions to roll in from MSNBC, you better change your 269 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 3: tune on that one, buddy. And things got a little personal. 270 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna pretend like Trump didn't take some shots. 271 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 3: It happened. But morning Joe not happy about the Trump 272 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 3: win last night, big win last night. And this is 273 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 3: I think where you're gonna see a lot of Democrats 274 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 3: start to be delusional and Clay this is an example 275 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 3: of this play fourteen. 276 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 8: If Barack Obama took four years off and then ran 277 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 8: in a Democratic caucus and Iowa Democrats vote against Barack Obama. No, 278 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 8: now they won't let me answer your questions. Are you 279 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 8: know they would the fact that the fact that Donald 280 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 8: Trump has fifty percent of Republicans not voting for him, and, 281 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 8: as Steve Kornacki said, one third hating him in the 282 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 8: state of Iowa. 283 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 3: In the state of Iowa. 284 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 8: You know, we can all sit here and put on 285 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 8: sackcloth and ashes and moan about Donald Trump getting fifty one. 286 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 3: Percent of the vote. 287 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 8: Got to say, for people who actually want to win 288 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 8: general elections, that's not good news. 289 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 3: I mean, first of all, you know, there's no show. 290 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 3: I don't even know what this has to do with anything. 291 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 3: But if you did have Barack Obama run again and 292 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 3: there were other big name candidates who were in the race, 293 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 3: there would be a lot of people who would not 294 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 3: I would think were Democrats. I think there'd be people 295 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 3: who would vote for Hillary to get her first shot. 296 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 3: I mean, but you can't do it. There'll be a 297 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 3: third term. But notice how Scarborough he can't even he 298 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 3: can't even see what's going on here, which is the 299 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 3: beginning of the consolidation of the Republican Party behind Donald Trump. 300 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 3: A couple of things in response Scarborough. 301 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 2: This is the largest win by far in any contested 302 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 2: primary in the history of the Iowa Caucus, So that's 303 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 2: pretty significant. Also, this to me is interesting because you 304 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 2: hear all the time, Oh, it's a cult. Oh, Republicans 305 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 2: won't use their mind. They won't think there are reasonable 306 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 2: people out there, a ton of them that think that 307 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 2: there is a better option than Donald Trump. They might 308 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 2: have supported Ronda Santis, they might have supported NICKI Haley, 309 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 2: they might have supported the veak Raamaswami. Roughly forty nine 310 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 2: percent of Iowa caucus goers did they lost. 311 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 3: That's how the primary works. 312 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 2: I actually think it's super healthy that there were people 313 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 2: willing to challenge Trump and that Trump. 314 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 3: Ended up winning. 315 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 2: And the analogy with Barack Obama is a bad one 316 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 2: because if Barack Obama took four years off because he 317 00:16:56,680 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 2: lost in twenty twelve, correct, right, he had lost him 318 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 2: at Romney, and then Barack Obama had come back to 319 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 2: run in twenty sixteen, I think that a ton of 320 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 2: Democrats would have supported somebody else in the Iowa caucus. 321 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 2: So his hypothetical is not accurate. 322 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 3: It's not lined up proper, That's what I mean. Like 323 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 3: Hillary Clinton absolutely would have run against Barack Obama if 324 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 3: he had just lost or would have gotten a chunk 325 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 3: of the vote. You will, and so. 326 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 2: Would Bernie, and so would Elizabeth Warren. There would have 327 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 2: been it would be very contested. 328 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 3: But you know, it's just he I think he's actually, 329 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:31,920 Speaker 3: I'm being nice here, a little smarter than that. It's 330 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 3: just petty. He's just petty about it. He just doesn't 331 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 3: want to accept. 332 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 2: I mean, imagine what's gonna happen, Buck if Trump wins. 333 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 2: All these people are going to lose their minds, and 334 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:45,479 Speaker 2: so are a lot of leftists in this country. 335 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 3: What happens? What happens if you're already emotionally broken by 336 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 3: a candidate and then you get even more broken broken. 337 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 3: I don't really know where it goes. There should be 338 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:58,920 Speaker 3: a word for broken or yeah, that would be fascinating. 339 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 3: We'll get into it. 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Paid for by Palm Beach Research Group. 359 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 2: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. 360 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 3: Appreciate all of you rolling through. 361 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:04,879 Speaker 2: With us eight hundred and two two two eight a 362 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 2: two as we react to the results that came in 363 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 2: from Iowa. 364 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:11,440 Speaker 3: One thing we should probably mention, Buck. 365 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 2: There's been some criticism over how quickly the call was made. 366 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:17,719 Speaker 2: I don't know if you've paid a lot of attention 367 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 2: to that, but I know probably some of you listening 368 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:25,400 Speaker 2: right now we're still in line voting in the Iowa caucuses, 369 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 2: maybe not even have filled out your slips of paper 370 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 2: yet when all of the different news organizations started making 371 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 2: their call. In general, I would say I would prefer 372 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 2: and I bet you would too, although I don't know 373 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:41,679 Speaker 2: this for sure, that every news organization wait till the 374 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 2: polls have officially closed before they make the announcement of 375 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 2: who was one, just because if it feels wrong to 376 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:51,640 Speaker 2: have people standing in line waiting to vote and hear 377 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 2: the election has already been determined. 378 00:19:53,800 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 3: One percent agree, and it should be you know, to me, 379 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:03,919 Speaker 3: you just create this arms race and someone's tried to 380 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 3: go sooner and sooner, and someone's gonna come out and 381 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 3: get it very wrong because they go too soon, because 382 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 3: they're fighting over who gets to be first. It should 383 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 3: be poles close now we can talk. You know. It 384 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:19,400 Speaker 3: should be like the starting pistol of the race. Poles closed. 385 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 3: Now we want to know. I do not like this 386 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:25,639 Speaker 3: a news organization's calling it because it can affect I 387 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 3: remember back in two thousand, they were calling Florida and 388 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:32,120 Speaker 3: people went home, and there are multiple time zones in Florida, 389 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 3: so they called for the East Coast polls closing while 390 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 3: people like in the Panhandle Central time zone were still voting. 391 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 3: And I think that's probably because a lot of people 392 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:44,159 Speaker 3: weren't aware that there were multiple time zones in Florida, 393 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 3: Like because people aren't that well informed, and people forget 394 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:48,680 Speaker 3: the Panhandle exists. I was going to say, how many 395 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 3: journalists at CBS and NBC News have ever been to 396 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:57,159 Speaker 3: the Panhandle. Probably zero except Joe Scarborough, who used to 397 00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 3: represent the Panhandle and now has lost his mind. Right 398 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 3: back then, he was a Republican yeah, I know he 399 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:08,199 Speaker 3: was probably criticizing, but I would say the general rule is, 400 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 3: you know, wait at least until the polls have officially closed. 401 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 3: Caucus is a little bit weird, buck, because people vote 402 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 3: at different times in the caucus, right, So I think 403 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 3: they were trying Speeches can go longer. Everybody gets the 404 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 3: opportunity to try to persuade you at the last meeting 405 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 3: there the gathering that you need to be supporting their 406 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 3: guy or their gal, And so I think that probably 407 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 3: factors in in some way to the calculus and the decision. 408 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 2: And I don't think it changed anything. To be fair, 409 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 2: maybe a few people were like, oh, screw this, I'm 410 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 2: walking out. Trump's already won. The one thing I will 411 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 2: say that I was intrigued by. Additionally, so I would 412 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 2: just say, as we come forward, I hope that the 413 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 2: news organizations will go back and look at this and say, yeah, 414 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 2: let's make sure that we don't screw this up. The 415 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 2: other thing, I would say, at least wait till the 416 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 2: polls close to call a state, even if we know 417 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 2: it's not going to be particularly close. The other thing 418 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 2: I would I would point out here, and I haven't 419 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 2: heard an explanation for it. Only one hundred and fifteen 420 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 2: thousand people turned out in Iowa. That's way less than 421 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 2: turned out in twenty sixteen. Is that weather? Is that 422 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 2: people deciding that Trump was already gonna win because there's 423 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty four million dollars spent is the 424 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:27,639 Speaker 2: number that I saw in Iowa. So Nicky Haley ran 425 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 2: a big campaign. Certainly DeSantis did. Vivek was everywhere. Trump 426 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 2: spent a lot of money too. I'm a little bit 427 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 2: curious about why I think two hundred thousand people turned 428 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 2: out in twenty sixteen. If you look at the numbers, 429 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,879 Speaker 2: only one hundred and fifteen k turned out in twenty 430 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 2: twenty four. Is that telling us anything about turnout going forward? 431 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 2: Or was this a function of people felt like Trump 432 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 2: had at one and so there wasn't as much enthusiasm. 433 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:59,199 Speaker 2: Twenty sixteen obviously was super tight, and you had a 434 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 2: lot of big time candidates all duking it out. I'm 435 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 2: just a little bit I would be for the data 436 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:09,399 Speaker 2: analyst out there who pick through all the numbers, I 437 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,959 Speaker 2: would be curious why they would say so many fewer 438 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 2: people turned out in twenty four than turned out in sixteen. 439 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:19,640 Speaker 3: So do you want to do emails or calls? Now, 440 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 3: which one do you like better? Which one is more entertaining? Well, 441 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 3: that's tough. We got entertaining calls and emails. Let's say this. 442 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,400 Speaker 3: We'll do some. We'll do some VIP emails and go 443 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 3: be a Clanbuck VIP because also it's a great way 444 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 3: to see our new three hour streaming of the show, 445 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 3: which is going to be up at clanbuck dot com 446 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 3: going forward. Uh, clanbuck dot com, go become a VIP. 447 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 3: Thank you so much for those of you who already are, 448 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 3: and you get the access to the special VIP email inbox. 449 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 3: We'll take some calls on the flip side of this brake, 450 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:53,199 Speaker 3: So if you're on hold, please stay with us. Marjorie right. First, 451 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 3: does not the outcome in Iowa mean that forty nine 452 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 3: percent do not want Trump? Second, if all the remainings 453 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 3: state selecting non Trump candidate by fifty one percent, can't 454 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 3: we still have Haley, who the poll says will beat 455 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 3: Biden more handily than Trump or DeSantis. Third, I want 456 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 3: to vote. When you call it so decisively, you're leaving 457 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 3: us all out. Your show is making me sad. It's 458 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 3: going to basically win every other state in the country 459 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 3: that that has any significance to the outcome of the election. 460 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 3: So you can believe that this is all going to change. 461 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 2: Anyway you can, you can show up. Sorry to cut 462 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 2: you off, but you can show up and vote for 463 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,440 Speaker 2: whoever you want in your primary. I mean, people showed 464 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,640 Speaker 2: up and voted for Asa Hutchinson and Chris Christy. They're 465 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,159 Speaker 2: still going to be on your ballot. What I'm saying is, 466 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 2: does it make sense to spend hundreds of millions of 467 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 2: dollars against Trump for the Republican Party when it's a 468 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 2: foregone conclusion that he's going to be the nominee. 469 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 3: Yes? So back to Marjorie here, Ye see Iowa doesn't 470 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,880 Speaker 3: I we mean forty nine percent do not want Trump? Yeah, 471 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:52,399 Speaker 3: But the way the math work, First of all, what 472 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 3: do you say don't want Trump? Forty nine percent had 473 00:24:55,880 --> 00:25:00,200 Speaker 3: another candidate that they supported. But that doesn't mean I 474 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,159 Speaker 3: think saying they don't want Trump is severe. I mean, 475 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 3: I think that of the people that voted for DeSantis 476 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 3: and Iowa, a vast majority of them if Trump is 477 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 3: the nominee, not even a majority. I think ninety five 478 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 3: percent of them are going to vote for Donald Trump 479 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:16,400 Speaker 3: in the general election. Nicky Haley. Maybe not as high, 480 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 3: but a very high percentage will vote for Donald Trump 481 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 3: as well, So I would I would put that in 482 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 3: the mix. And then if all the remaining states select 483 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:27,440 Speaker 3: the non Trump candidate by fifty one, Yeah, But the 484 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:31,239 Speaker 3: point is you're not first of all, Iowa. I mean, 485 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 3: Clay feel free to chime in here as well, but 486 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:38,920 Speaker 3: Iowa was Ron DeSantis's stronghold. Supposedly, that was the idea. 487 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 3: He's losing dramatically in Florida, his home state, as is 488 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:47,640 Speaker 3: Nicky Haley. So if you had these candidates, I think 489 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:49,879 Speaker 3: that the problem that we're seeing here is she thinks, well, 490 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 3: can't we get a dropout of DeSantis and then we 491 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:57,440 Speaker 3: get you know, the forty nine number, can all consolidate? Well, no, 492 00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 3: because when you have a DeSantis drop out, let's just 493 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,119 Speaker 3: say a large percentage of them are going to go 494 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 3: to Trump. So now you're going to be at Trump, 495 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 3: you know, seventy percent. So that's why the math equation 496 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 3: doesn't add up. 497 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 2: That that's I'm not claiming to be a genius when 498 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 2: it comes to math, but every time a candidate drops out, 499 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:19,640 Speaker 2: the veg just dropped out. What did they get seven 500 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 2: point seven percent of the vote in Iowa? What percentage 501 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 2: of a vake support's going to Trump? Ninety probably ninety 502 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 2: percent at least, So basically you can add in eight 503 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,640 Speaker 2: more points to Trump, right, that gets you to fifty nine. 504 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,400 Speaker 2: If DeSantis were to drop out, what did DeSantis get 505 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 2: twenty one? 506 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 3: I feel like if you. 507 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 2: Asked the average DeSantis supporter who's your second choice, seventy 508 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 2: five percent of them would say Trump. 509 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 3: That's what I heard that or same thing, yep. 510 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:52,399 Speaker 2: Okay, So you're gonna take whatever seventy five percent of 511 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 2: twenty one is? You know another uh, you know, seventeen 512 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:59,719 Speaker 2: percent basically goes to Trump. And so Nikki Hayley, who 513 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 2: would be the only person left, got nineteen percent. Let's 514 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 2: say she adds seven or eight percent from all those people. 515 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:08,160 Speaker 3: Now that's just Iowa. 516 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 2: But the math just doesn't add up for Nicki Haley, 517 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 2: which is why I said DeSantis staying in the race 518 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 2: probably helps Nicky Haley because the majority. We can argue 519 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,439 Speaker 2: about exactly what percentage, but the majority looks Sandil as 520 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 2: a candidate as long as DeSantis is there. The moment, 521 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 2: DeSantis leaves De Santa's supporters are going to become true. 522 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 3: This is one part of this that I think got 523 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 3: lost in some of the more acrimonious parts of the primary. 524 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 3: De Santa's voter's voted for Trump twice. Yes, every single 525 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 3: descent when I say Dessanta's primary voter, every single De 526 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 3: Santa's primary voter that I can think of that I know, 527 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:47,880 Speaker 3: and I'm talking about now people in the media whom 528 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 3: I know and I know how they voted, they all 529 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,639 Speaker 3: voted for Trump twice. Yes, so they're gonna voted for 530 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 3: Trump again. 531 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 2: I agree, And that's why the math this is just 532 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:00,160 Speaker 2: a simple math of equation. And I'm not saying saying, 533 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 2: by the way, if you're a diehard Nikki Haley supporter 534 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 2: and you live in I don't know, South Carolina and 535 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 2: you're a diehard DeSantis supporter and you live in Texas, 536 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:13,119 Speaker 2: I'm not saying you can't or shouldn't show up and 537 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 2: support whichever candidate. 538 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:15,439 Speaker 3: You like the most. 539 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 2: What I'm saying is, once you know how the primary 540 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:21,920 Speaker 2: is going to be decided, and I don't see any 541 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 2: pathway short of what we said in the first hour, 542 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 2: short of health condition for Trump or Supreme Court really 543 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:33,160 Speaker 2: really out of nowhere suddenly saying, hey, guess what Trump 544 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 2: can be pulled off all these ballots right, other than 545 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 2: one of those two things happening, Trump is going to 546 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 2: be the nominee. 547 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 3: That's almost like a little Green Men's space alien invasion 548 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 3: and taking over the country level of probability in my 549 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 3: mind the Supreme Court doing that. So to be yes, 550 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 3: it is theoretically possible, I think it is not even statistically, 551 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 3: it is only theoretically possible. 552 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 2: I'm just trying to be kind and even think of 553 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 2: ways that Trump's not the nominee. There is no pathway 554 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 2: for Nicky Haley or Ron de Santis now. And again, 555 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 2: the amount of money that they have spent is so massive. 556 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 2: They don't have that money to spend in every other state. 557 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 2: And you're seeing Trump as a thirty or forty percent. 558 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 3: Favorite here. 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Find it on 613 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 1: the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. 614 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 3: Welcome back to Clay and Buck. Next hour, we'll get 615 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,160 Speaker 3: into a little bit of a look ahead here to 616 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 3: New Hampshire, some of the other major states that are 617 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 3: going to be voting in the weeks ahead, and a 618 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 3: bit of the Democrat strategy, which I know. Isn't that 619 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 3: a Bush word? Right? It wasn't really a word, but 620 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 3: now I think it became a word because Bush made 621 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 3: it one. I still think decider, which technically I believe 622 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 3: was not a word. Decider is a great word, like 623 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 3: that's the word that we should all use. Anyway, There'll 624 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 3: be a lot of strategy from the Democrat side that 625 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 3: we shall discuss in the third hour. Let's take some 626 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 3: calls here though, from all of you. We have Steve 627 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 3: in fair Haven, Massachusetts. 628 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,960 Speaker 9: What's up, Steve, gentlemen, good afternoon. It's a pleasure to 629 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 9: talk to you, so listen. I'm not going to as 630 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 9: a Trump supporter and a former GOP state committee man, 631 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 9: I'm not saying that Nicky Haley is gonna win everything. 632 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 9: But I'm gonna tell you something. Speaking to some friends 633 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 9: this morning who were up there helping Trump in New Hampshire, 634 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 9: I didn't realize they never run to estimate the Democratic Party, 635 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 9: the Democrat Party, because they will play dirty tricks. I 636 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 9: hate when we get involved in primaries each other's primaries. 637 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 3: I don't like that. 638 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 9: But they are outcratic. It's the Democratic Committee because there's 639 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 9: no Biden ballot up there. I didn't realize this that 640 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 9: there was absolutely no Biden ballot, so these people have 641 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 9: focused their energy. I'm hoping to get Nicky Haley elected. 642 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. Can I say, Steve, I think everything Steve, everything 643 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 3: you're saying is true, and I appreciate you bringing it 644 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 3: to the attention of this audience. Clay and I both 645 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 3: think Nickiy Haley could win New Hampshire. I don't think 646 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 3: that would be a big surprise, but it doesn't change 647 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 3: anything in the overall math based on everything else everywhere else, 648 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 3: Does that make sense? I mean, you're right to point 649 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 3: out the treacherous nature of Democrats in politics, but I 650 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 3: don't think that what I'm saying is even if Nicky 651 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 3: Haley wins New Hampshire outright, which would be a big 652 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 3: night for her, doesn't change anything. 653 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think thanks for the call and making 654 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 2: people aware of that. I think this is an attempt 655 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 2: to prolong the Republican primary and embarrass Trump by Democrats 656 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 2: because if Vicky Haley wins, let's be honest, television is 657 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:14,759 Speaker 2: based on ratings, there will be two weeks of coverage 658 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:19,400 Speaker 2: headed into South Carolina saying, oh my goodness, look Nicki Haley, 659 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 2: can she pull off the upset of Trump. I don't 660 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:23,919 Speaker 2: think we talked about this a couple of weeks ago, Buck, 661 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 2: and we've got a lot of South Carolinian listeners. I 662 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,319 Speaker 2: don't think there's a chance that Nicky Haley can beat 663 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 2: Trump in South Carolina, which is why I've said for 664 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 2: a while, I think this thing is over when you 665 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 2: actually look at the math. But they want that storyline 666 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 2: because otherwise they're gonna have to come on and tell 667 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,439 Speaker 2: you what we told you, which is this thing's over. 668 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 3: That's all true. Let's get to next up here. Sorry, 669 00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:53,760 Speaker 3: Brady in Austin, Texa. Thanks you, I lost my place. Yeah, yes, pretty, Hey, thanks. 670 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,439 Speaker 7: For taking my call. Yeah, I just wanted to say 671 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 7: that you know. I want the primaries to continue. I'm 672 00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 7: a Trump supporter, and the main reason is I want 673 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 7: every supported to have the opportunity to cast their vote 674 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 7: for Donald Trump and have that number counted and broadcasts 675 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:09,399 Speaker 7: fire and wide. And I want if numbers are low, 676 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 7: and I want them high everywhere else. I want you know, 677 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 7: we know he's got a broad base of support. I 678 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:15,920 Speaker 7: want the rest of the country to know that, Hey, 679 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:17,879 Speaker 7: we're still out there. We're ready to vote for Donald 680 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 7: Trump at the drop of a hat. We're excited and 681 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 7: and we want to. I want through the tails of 682 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:24,239 Speaker 7: victor any tired of one. 683 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is important. Thank you for the call, Brady. 684 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:27,920 Speaker 2: I want all of you to show up at your 685 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:31,440 Speaker 2: primaries and vote. Don't mistake me by saying that the 686 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,720 Speaker 2: race is over. I just don't want one hundred million 687 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:38,440 Speaker 2: dollars to be spent against Donald Trump tearing him down. 688 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:42,360 Speaker 2: But all of your other votes down ballot are super important. 689 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 2: Who the nominees are, everything else. Show up and vote 690 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,840 Speaker 2: every time you can. Yeah, this is everyone's right in 691 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:51,879 Speaker 2: the primary. This is the process, and calling the likely 692 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:55,760 Speaker 2: outcome doesn't mean that it shouldn't play out in state 693 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 2: by state exactly as it is set up to do. So, Yeah, 694 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:01,920 Speaker 2: every should get out there and vote, and people should 695 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,239 Speaker 2: vote for whom they think the best candidate is, you know, 696 00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:07,319 Speaker 2: whoever that may be. It's just looking at the math 697 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,520 Speaker 2: and looking at the polls, it seems pretty definitive. Where 698 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:11,320 Speaker 2: all this is headache. 699 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 3: But we always believe, you know, I said ninety nine 700 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:17,799 Speaker 3: point nine percent Clay the point one percent chance that 701 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 3: we could be wrong on this book. So I wouldn't 702 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 3: bet that. I wouldn't bet the farm against it, so 703 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,759 Speaker 3: to speak. But you know how it goes. Let's talk 704 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,640 Speaker 3: about New Hampshire a little bit more. Actually we come 705 00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:31,440 Speaker 3: back here. What's next, whatever else comes to mind. We've 706 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:32,280 Speaker 3: got some fun stuff.