Speaker 1: Look out, it's only films to be buried with.
Speaker 2: We're back baby, Hello and welcome to Films to be
Speaker 2: buried With. My name is Brett Goldstein. I'm a comedian,
Speaker 2: an actor, a writer, a director, a recycler, and I
Speaker 2: love films. As Gertrude Stein once said, one must dare
Speaker 2: to be happy. I loved Past Lives so much I
Speaker 2: immediately saw it two more times and it made me
Speaker 2: even more happy. Gertrude me too. That's a lovely idea.
Speaker 2: Every week I invite a special guest over. I tell
Speaker 2: them they've died. Then I get them to discuss their
Speaker 2: life through the films. That meant that most of them.
Speaker 2: Previous guests include Barry Jenkins, Sharon Stone, Jamila Jamil and
Speaker 2: even Coledical Lamboles. But this week it's the brilliant actor, writer, podcaster, producer,
Speaker 2: stand up and star. It's the wonderful and Only Tom Davis.
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Speaker 2: Brett Goldstein, so Tom Davis. Tom Davis is an excellent actor, writer, creator, producer, director,
Speaker 2: all of it. He does all of it. I've met
Speaker 2: Tom years and years and years ago when we first
Speaker 2: started stand up together. He is now about to go
Speaker 2: on tour with his first big stand up show. He's
Speaker 2: made King Gary, He's in Wonka, he's in Everything's got
Speaker 2: an amazing podcast with Promish called Wolf and now he's
Speaker 2: fucking brilliant.
Speaker 1: He's a lovely, lovely man.
Speaker 2: I was so happy to record this with him on
Speaker 2: Zoom and I really think you're going to love this one.
Speaker 1: So that is it for now. Welcome back everyone, I
Speaker 1: very much hope you enjoy episode two hundred and seventy
Speaker 1: four of Films to be Buried With Hello, and welcome
Speaker 1: to Films to be Buried With.
Speaker 2: It is Brett Goldstein and I am joined today by
Speaker 2: a creator, an actor, a writer, a producer, an improviser,
Speaker 2: a stand upper, a wolf, a podcaster, a lover, a father,
Speaker 2: a husband, a hero, a legend, a grafter, a grifter,
Speaker 2: a great man, a wonder and an angel and also
Speaker 2: a boy. Please welcome to the show. I can't believe
Speaker 2: he's here. It's the one, it's the only.
Speaker 1: Here he is.
Speaker 3: It's Tom Davis Leasure. I still find it really cringey
Speaker 3: when people introduce you to stuff. Do you remember when
Speaker 3: you start a stand up and you're like you just
Speaker 3: get introduced at that moment when you first ever got
Speaker 3: introduced to this sort of stage and you couldn't you
Speaker 3: didn't know how U how to deal with it? Like
Speaker 3: the joke's almost easy, but actually how to sort of
Speaker 3: like walk out on stage and be yourself? I found
Speaker 3: you even now, like when you do these podcasts or
Speaker 3: you do like any kind of interview, I was finding
Speaker 3: really weird that people have to pick you up.
Speaker 1: And I'm just even now, I'm not used to it.
Speaker 1: I feel sick. I'm used to it.
Speaker 2: Well that's isn't that also just being English? I mean
Speaker 2: it is like a sort of cliche, but it's true
Speaker 2: in that in America when you do stand up, they
Speaker 2: go to what are your credits?
Speaker 1: Before they bring you on there? What are your credits?
Speaker 1: Oh wow? And you're like what and they sort of
Speaker 1: have to introduce you is like.
Speaker 2: He's done this, he's done that, You've seen him on
Speaker 2: Comedy Central and people go wo. But in England you
Speaker 2: don't say anything. You don't even say it's better if
Speaker 2: you say this guy is a nobody in his gum,
Speaker 2: and then the orders to go all right, well listen,
Speaker 2: but if you go he's amazing, people go boom.
Speaker 1: It's such a weird thing.
Speaker 3: Do you remember, Like there used to be a gig
Speaker 3: in North London run by my Investment.
Speaker 1: I can't remember.
Speaker 3: It's called Now and I remember him in sushi, probably
Speaker 3: about my eighth or whatever. Gig introduced me by going
Speaker 3: the next guy is probably the tallest person who's ever
Speaker 3: played this place. Actually thinking about it, Good Davis or
Speaker 3: Steve Merchant and both played here and a bigger than Actually,
Speaker 3: don't get it. Isn't Good Davis or Steve Merchant. I
Speaker 3: don't even know how funny this is. Guys get them
Speaker 3: with Tom Davis, everyone and everyone's head. They're like, oh
Speaker 3: my god, Steve Merchant, Greg Davis and two of the
Speaker 3: fucking best guys are doing what we do in the business.
Speaker 3: And then you come out and it's sort of just
Speaker 3: anting climax for everyone in the room, and you're like, well,
Speaker 3: do you know anything, Isaiah is going to be passable?
Speaker 3: Was fucking half decent now they're not. It's yeah, it's
Speaker 3: a real tragic no way of being.
Speaker 2: When when when Derek first came out, I had a
Speaker 2: few times where people would go, he's the star of
Speaker 2: Derek and so the auders again ricks.
Speaker 1: And then they go break us that which guy is
Speaker 1: which guy? See? Which is he? Which is he? Ultily?
Speaker 1: Did you show you that? I don't reckon?
Speaker 2: I do now? Yeah, Tom Davis, I've known you for
Speaker 2: many many years. We did stand Up together. I think
Speaker 2: it's the first time we met in Leicester doing that
Speaker 2: really dreadful gig.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I remember that, Oh my god. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we we came out.
Speaker 2: We were sort of started out around the same sort
Speaker 2: of time, right, we just I think so yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: and I remember open Mite together that wanted less remember
Speaker 2: being awful.
Speaker 1: Yeah, truly awful.
Speaker 2: So to one of those gigs where it's in a
Speaker 2: bar but no one in the bar has asked for
Speaker 2: it or what and they've made no concession to stopping
Speaker 2: the bar being a nightclub. I think there was still
Speaker 2: music playing it so like, yeah, just go and do yeah,
Speaker 2: just shout at these people.
Speaker 1: To show your observations. Just shout at these people trying
Speaker 1: to enjoy their evening.
Speaker 2: It's an insane thing now to see them because I
Speaker 2: remember that we did we did that I had to
Speaker 2: job together, and we'd sort of you know, we weren't
Speaker 2: in any of the same scenes.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think it's one of those things where you or yeah,
Speaker 3: you're coming up through the ranks with someone, and I
Speaker 3: think you were always someone I was always very like.
Speaker 3: I remember just a positive vibe that I was enjoyed
Speaker 3: with you, and you were you felt like in the
Speaker 3: best way when I like not it's the least competitive.
Speaker 3: You felt like you were always focused on where you
Speaker 3: were heading, and you never felt like you could I
Speaker 3: felt like anyone else. That's a weird thing to stand
Speaker 3: up is when I speak to youngsters and writers and actors,
Speaker 3: I think you can get consumed by what everyone else
Speaker 3: around you is doing. And I always felt with you
Speaker 3: you were someone who always wished people well and you're
Speaker 3: always happy for other people's success, which I was always
Speaker 3: That was sort of I think I was took as
Speaker 3: a real sort of show of your character or a
Speaker 3: good person.
Speaker 2: Well, that's nice, but I'm just like, it's not a sport.
Speaker 2: It's not like it's like it's art. It's not a competition.
Speaker 2: There's no because everyone's doing something different.
Speaker 3: It's shocking how many people, it's shocking how many people
Speaker 3: in the industry still who think like that and weren't
Speaker 3: like that. And I think, and there's probably an element
Speaker 3: of that that maybe needed.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I've always it strikes me the people that I sort
Speaker 3: of like or consider as both on and off stage,
Speaker 3: the people I admire other people who've always looked at
Speaker 3: them are or looked at as something there's a team
Speaker 3: sport and the sense and also using the people around
Speaker 3: you to inspire you to go to the next stage,
Speaker 3: or looking at people and go, he's done that. That's amazing,
Speaker 3: that's reachable. That's so Yeah, I could potentially get off.
Speaker 3: That could happen, and I think that's that's it. Yeah, Well, you're.
Speaker 1: One of the I'm gonna say something sincere and forgive me,
Speaker 1: fucking forgive me, Tom, but I'm about to be sincere
Speaker 1: for a minute and then I will not do this again.
Speaker 1: Is that you're one of You're now a national treasure,
Speaker 1: and I'm fucking delighted for that. And one of the reasons,
Speaker 1: one of the reasons I like it. I like three
Speaker 1: things from people who who become successful. Either they're they're
Speaker 1: really really talented, or they're really really lovely, or they
Speaker 1: work fucking hard. They've worked so hard you can't you
Speaker 1: can't be resumended and go, well you worked out with this.
Speaker 1: You are all three of those, and that is thank you,
Speaker 1: very beautiful thing, bless you, thank you.
Speaker 2: There's never been since games well, thank you for me
Speaker 2: on the podcast. It was at the end of the podcast,
Speaker 2: take care good to see from it. Thank you, that's
Speaker 2: very kind, thank you. But one thing I was thinking is, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: because you did like you're fucking worker man, like I forget,
Speaker 2: like you did so many pilots and so many fucking
Speaker 2: yeah you did like comedy comedy blabs.
Speaker 1: Did you do a comedy blaps?
Speaker 2: I did a black and I think I did a
Speaker 2: people whatever they called them, the bab You did the
Speaker 2: warm up guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's great.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know it's that weird thing of like
Speaker 3: doing enough stuff and it was something to you, like
Speaker 3: you're you're sort of you do enough stuff that you
Speaker 3: learn on the job, Right, I left school about the qualifications,
Speaker 3: I didn't really know how the industry works. So most
Speaker 3: of my stuff that I learned was through being on
Speaker 3: other people's sets and how scripts were written and you know,
Speaker 3: and also a lot of failure, like a lot.
Speaker 1: Of things that didn't work.
Speaker 3: It's weird as soon as successful came out, you're right,
Speaker 3: this guy's success cats, but like so.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, because people hadn't seen all the other stuff. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: who's this guy and you're like.
Speaker 3: Yeah, in the background, just some sort of like little
Speaker 3: little projects here and there. So it's a weird thing
Speaker 3: of like that that becoming something that had yeah, launching,
Speaker 3: But it's it's it's really weird now because as well,
Speaker 3: we live in such a weird time where no one
Speaker 3: was prepared to necessarily put those hours. If everyone wants
Speaker 3: their first sitcom to be them as a lead, and
Speaker 3: everyone wants to be front and center, and you know,
Speaker 3: you'd work for a long time with different people, you
Speaker 3: learned the craft. And I think that's a really important
Speaker 3: education to have in our industry. I think like and
Speaker 3: I think that works alongside you know, I remember when
Speaker 3: I saw superbo of. It was so such a brilliant
Speaker 3: piece of work, and it was sort of something that
Speaker 3: you were experimented with. You've gone out and grafted to
Speaker 3: find yourself, but you clearly work some other stuff long
Speaker 3: enough to realize what the av season, what made things work.
Speaker 3: And I think that's really people aren't necessarily really to
Speaker 3: do that. When I speak to you, like I say,
Speaker 3: I do work with charity, work for people who come
Speaker 3: in and try to get into this industry, and everyone
Speaker 3: wants to go a sitcom, You're like, actually, you know,
Speaker 3: I've worked with two or three people have had those
Speaker 3: straight off the bat, and I don't think it's a
Speaker 3: healthy thing.
Speaker 2: No, No, to one thing I always wanted to ask
Speaker 2: you about. I'm so fascinated. It's like, from my small
Speaker 2: experience in the industry, it's sort of always been like that,
Speaker 2: particularly when you're pitching something or trying to things that
Speaker 2: work on TV. If you can explain it in a
Speaker 2: simple line, you know, if you can boil it down
Speaker 2: to that, that's that's gonna work. And I'm always like
Speaker 2: so amazed and impressed and sort of wonder how to
Speaker 2: fuck it happened that murder and successful not only got
Speaker 2: made that it won awards.
Speaker 1: That it is successful because it's fucking brilliant.
Speaker 2: It's amazing, and it's the most complicated like Soll like,
Speaker 2: I'm like, it's hard to even describe to someone what
Speaker 2: it is. And the fact that you pulled that off
Speaker 2: and it's so great, I'm like, how did you pitch that?
Speaker 1: I just don't understand. It's so complicated. It was one
Speaker 1: of those things.
Speaker 3: I think it got people's interests because it was so convoluted,
Speaker 3: and in the end it was me, James and Andy.
Speaker 3: We got some because it got turned down by everyone
Speaker 3: until the BBC picked up and the Bob still were
Speaker 3: like intrigued by it. I think I'd done bits on
Speaker 3: them are Gone show and I was doing Okay as
Speaker 3: a stand up, so I think they were interesting enough
Speaker 3: to go, what projects have you got? And that was
Speaker 3: the main one, and I sort of thrown everything intact.
Speaker 3: I wasn't really ever getting offered Leeds. I was always
Speaker 3: getting off the you know, big do for us in
Speaker 3: the background, or the sort of smelly best mate or builder.
Speaker 1: So I thought, this is the only thing, and we
Speaker 1: need a smelly best mate. Is some available.
Speaker 3: At the time, it was me, Nick cal and Joe
Speaker 3: Wilkinson would often be sitting in the cars the route
Speaker 3: and more of than Nick Calm will get that part.
Speaker 3: Abso Nick was min smelly, Joe was smelly, and then
Speaker 3: I was the real big smell.
Speaker 1: Film actually if he Stinky bears.
Speaker 3: So yeah, BBC gave us some money and we just
Speaker 3: shot shot some of it and it was a great
Speaker 3: way of just saying it's just going to work and
Speaker 3: is it gonna start?
Speaker 1: We did like weird as well. We did a read
Speaker 1: through for it, which felt insane and you evervised around
Speaker 1: the table, you know, the.
Speaker 3: Mad thing is we did. We had Mark Wright who
Speaker 3: did it and then later came on the show. We
Speaker 3: didn't improvise enough. We were actually it became a scripted
Speaker 3: through and it was that was when I TV it.
Speaker 3: TV passed on it at that point, and then I
Speaker 3: think we shot like two or three scenes in it,
Speaker 3: and then we shot a pilot.
Speaker 1: And that's a really good thing me and you yourself.
Speaker 3: I think again, like when we shot we shot like
Speaker 3: a taste and I was like, okay, and that that
Speaker 3: bit kind of works, and the when we shot the pilot,
Speaker 3: you're like, oh, actually this works. But that doesn't and
Speaker 3: it grew sort of squat organically quite slowly. But yeah,
Speaker 3: it's still like I find it insane. I remember when
Speaker 3: we have when when I Lett and Mark Forman came
Speaker 3: to speak to us, and hearing like them chatting on
Speaker 3: podcasts about it with Adam mckay're like, it's mad, Like
Speaker 3: these are the people that I grew up when our
Speaker 3: net Aru is one of my favorite comedy actors. Thank
Speaker 3: he's incredible actors is in general. For him to take
Speaker 3: that idea and run with it and do something with
Speaker 3: it is fucking it's yeah, it's pretty fun, pretty fucking cool.
Speaker 4: Like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: The last thing I wanted to about is you're on
Speaker 2: tour now, right You just started to tour. Is this
Speaker 2: your first tour?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, tell me everything. How is it? How are
Speaker 1: you doing? Are you enjoying it?
Speaker 2: Which everywhere all over the UK it's the same because
Speaker 2: it was like, yeah, I mean it's a weird thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, to get deep.
Speaker 3: My daughter was born and deep and then so at
Speaker 3: school I was dyslexic ADHD, which if I knows down
Speaker 3: but and I couldn't read in mics. I was quite
Speaker 3: old and my godmother was a teacher, and she sort
Speaker 3: of used to take extra classes and sort of pushed
Speaker 3: me into, I guess being a bit more deep thinking
Speaker 3: educated than I probably I would have been. And I
Speaker 3: think she was quite a sort of strong role model
Speaker 3: within my life. And she passed away just sort of
Speaker 3: in the back of when my daughter was born, after
Speaker 3: about six months, and it was a weird thing. Yeah
Speaker 3: but no, but it's life, right, And it was a
Speaker 3: weird thing of my door being born and her passing away,
Speaker 3: and I kind of was like, this is it sounded
Speaker 3: I sort of it would seem like a weird thing.
Speaker 3: Never ever, like I put off, I genuinely stand up
Speaker 3: became really quite toxic for my mental health. I found
Speaker 3: it really hard in the basis that I always wanted
Speaker 3: it to be perfect, and I was like, we'll go
Speaker 3: out and sometimes I die and sometimes yeah, that's just
Speaker 3: an extra piece. But I got into a really anxious
Speaker 3: place where I felt there's so much resting on every game.
Speaker 3: I could be doing a gig so for James Gill,
Speaker 3: who's to have best friends and someone I dore, and
Speaker 3: I'd be like doing a gig for him in front
Speaker 3: of a really nice crowd and think if this goes bad,
Speaker 3: I might never work again. It's an insane school of
Speaker 3: thought I got into so sort of then just was like,
Speaker 3: I can't do it anymore. And then when that happened,
Speaker 3: I was a bit like, you know what, actually it's
Speaker 3: not that big. It's like everything else that was going
Speaker 3: on in my life. I felt actually just going out
Speaker 3: and James again was flowing. Romesh were amazing to sort
Speaker 3: of give it that confidence. And for quite a while
Speaker 3: I was just literally going out for James doing all
Speaker 3: this big comedy. I was literally just going and he
Speaker 3: was That was the only gig. I always kept doing
Speaker 3: it because I found James someone who always you know,
Speaker 3: I mean when I first started out, it was a
Speaker 3: very strange thing to sort of come out, you know.
Speaker 3: I was sort of coming up to thirty. I was
Speaker 3: a scaffolder. I was sort of turning up at places.
Speaker 3: It wasn't necessarily GEI as a person that was around
Speaker 3: I sort of I think that's one of the things
Speaker 3: I loved about you. I was I think some people
Speaker 3: judged were quite easy to sort of label you, and I.
Speaker 1: Think I was never really that guy.
Speaker 2: James Gil for example, was someone who always felt they
Speaker 2: gave me gigs and it was always very you know,
Speaker 2: always honored me to do more from there. I just
Speaker 2: felt that support really to sort of go out and
Speaker 2: try it. And it's been the best thing I've ever
Speaker 2: done it. I'm loving it to be out and you know,
Speaker 2: you're doing yourself to be out on stage. And yeah,
Speaker 2: me and you have been very fortunate to written stuff
Speaker 2: and you know people watch it through the turbin that's amazing.
Speaker 2: But to actually be out there and here people laughing
Speaker 2: and have that body with an audience is pretty incredible.
Speaker 2: It's magic and it's fucking music at the end of
Speaker 2: the day, is actually fucking music.
Speaker 3: Its mate, It's like a one you have. It's just
Speaker 3: easier that I don't want to give you your show.
Speaker 1: That's why people leave very quickly. They leave very believe
Speaker 1: he's got that. That's such a not even joked about
Speaker 1: for the whole show and then.
Speaker 2: Just even sort of mentioned it, just did it and yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean some people enjoyed it, but other people thought
Speaker 2: there should have been some sort of wouldn't rush to
Speaker 2: see him again or I'd leave at the war. We
Speaker 2: didn't recommend not for everyone, not for everyone, but there
Speaker 2: will be a niche crowd for that is your show stories?
Speaker 2: Is it all sorts of stuff? Is there one big theme?
Speaker 2: Is it a thing? Or is it just Yeah?
Speaker 3: I think it's just stuff that I cobbled together that
Speaker 3: I found funny.
Speaker 1: What was lovely was the is that work in progress time? Right?
Speaker 1: Is the going up there?
Speaker 3: And you've thrown ship at the wall and sometimes dicks
Speaker 3: and some self doesn't and weirdly stuff that I've always like,
Speaker 3: this won't work. But there's stuff that I'd spent weeks
Speaker 3: on trying to make work and never would.
Speaker 2: And yeah, and it's just yeah, it's Yeah. I think
Speaker 2: it's very indicative of Hill. I think it's it feels like, yeah,
Speaker 2: this feels as the first tour of it sort of.
Speaker 1: I feel very happy with it.
Speaker 3: It feels like it gets different parts of my character
Speaker 3: self deprecating and silly and yeah, it's not taking it
Speaker 3: too seriously.
Speaker 1: Tom.
Speaker 2: Yeah, fuck, I've forgotten to tell you something. Nah, oh god,
Speaker 2: it's so bad. You really, I really feel like you're
Speaker 2: you're sort of like riding away, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: Like it's going good.
Speaker 1: I feel sick telling you this. I forgot to tell you.
Speaker 2: I don't want to. I would hate to sort of
Speaker 2: be sort of a negative. And maybe it isn't. Maybe
Speaker 2: it isn't, depends on any point of view. But I
Speaker 2: should have said it earlier before we sort of got
Speaker 2: into all this.
Speaker 1: Oh Tom, you've died. You're dead, so you're you're like
Speaker 1: my Clarence, that's my guardian angel.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I'm your Clarence. Yeah yeah, yeah, except there's
Speaker 2: no coming back, so this isn't even like okay, so
Speaker 2: that was just all a big ruse, like it's a
Speaker 2: wonderful life. But yeah, I have a look. You have
Speaker 2: a look, but you ain't going back the.
Speaker 3: First thing I'm doing up there, So I'm going to
Speaker 3: go and see find that liar James.
Speaker 1: Sure, give my how did you die? It was shot?
Speaker 1: Which was yeah, what happened?
Speaker 4: Man?
Speaker 3: Just yeah, a sort of case of missing this identification.
Speaker 3: So someone thought it was a gang banger, but I
Speaker 3: actually wasn't. Yeah, I was just walking down the street.
Speaker 3: So that's that big guy who beat you up, and
Speaker 3: step David still beat him up weeks before that. That's
Speaker 3: not Actually he was every setlance tea merchant.
Speaker 1: That was the guy.
Speaker 4: Actually, think about it, I thinking Gary, why America shot dead,
Speaker 4: one shot, three, three shots.
Speaker 3: First of all, got my leg tried to a bit
Speaker 3: like you know, like like Ricky in a boyson Hood
Speaker 3: when he's trying damn first work gets his legs and
Speaker 3: he gets in the back twice.
Speaker 1: So morbid. I actually felt like I was talking about
Speaker 1: something we both like Rick from Yeah, Rick It's tragic, still.
Speaker 3: Want to like when I've watched that, I find that
Speaker 3: that moment when he's walking down and he's sort of
Speaker 3: Cuba's just going to the shop, and just that I
Speaker 3: think it's one of my favorite. Yeah, it's just a good,
Speaker 3: good mentioning dispatches, you know.
Speaker 1: What I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeahs. Do you worry
Speaker 1: about death? Yeah, yeah, yeah, oh yeah. I think having children.
Speaker 1: I think I think you're having children makes you really
Speaker 1: consider it more. I think in the sense that because
Speaker 1: you're like, get me out of here. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Actually as soon as you I don't want to see me,
Speaker 3: as soon as you sort of cold start remembering me,
Speaker 3: rather that. Yeah, I was just a character that they
Speaker 3: could showt television show little clips of Patton too, and it.
Speaker 1: Was a good man. He was with a bear. He's lovely.
Speaker 1: Look at him.
Speaker 3: A big statue of me in the cemetery that big Yeah, No,
Speaker 3: it makes you think about it. I think you've become
Speaker 3: more And I'm naturally a hypochondriac, and being shot would
Speaker 3: be an easier way to get out of things. And
Speaker 3: I love battles. Horrible disease, you know, because that was
Speaker 3: you know, I know it sounds really bad. I'd find
Speaker 3: that really hard if like me and you were doing
Speaker 3: always Big company, I was really frail and you had
Speaker 3: to sort of help.
Speaker 2: God, do you know what, why don't we make this pact?
Speaker 2: If it ever gets there, I'll sugar in the leg
Speaker 2: and twice in the back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is such a good killing, just going to
Speaker 1: the police. Yeah, I did it. He was frail and
Speaker 1: I him out the stairs as it was.
Speaker 3: And you know what, ten years listen to the podcast
Speaker 3: we did together. It's like and I was a mission
Speaker 3: that Yeah, he says on that Oh fair enough.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, ten years ago, that's what you're giving it.
Speaker 2: Listened the podcast he got suddenly very fail. It was
Speaker 2: genuinely fucking tragedy. But stick man, But what do you
Speaker 2: think happens when you die?
Speaker 1: You know what this is?
Speaker 3: I always think, I know I'm not a big believe
Speaker 3: in God and the afterlife in a sense. But then
Speaker 3: also I think of it a bit like you know,
Speaker 3: when you're but when you're looking forward to holiday all
Speaker 3: year round, right, it's ship to think of a ship holiday.
Speaker 3: That's you actually sort of we're going to we're not
Speaker 3: going away, And she was staying two weeks off and
Speaker 3: just stay in the house and just look about the house.
Speaker 3: I think it's much better if you've got something to
Speaker 3: look forward to it, like fucking I would go into
Speaker 3: my bayer, and I think that's what the afterlife should be.
Speaker 3: If it doesn't exist, then you've lost nothing. No one's
Speaker 3: going to think you're a preck because they don't know either.
Speaker 3: But the idea of actually going essentially death is Las Vegas,
Speaker 3: I think, is a better.
Speaker 1: Thing to be looking forward to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're saying, if there is an afterlife, it's
Speaker 2: like going to my bayer. And if there isn't, is
Speaker 2: that lurking around your house.
Speaker 1: For two weeks? Ye?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Well else, essentially what you're doing, it's looking around our
Speaker 3: hold on the ground, didn't you Yeah, unless you're a ghost.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think being a ghost is almost the worst one.
Speaker 2: I think so too, that's interesting. Go on, I just
Speaker 2: don't think that.
Speaker 3: I think you know, when people talk about ghosts and
Speaker 3: they're going, oh, you know, it's a cold, miserable sort
Speaker 3: of ghosts, I'm like, of course miserable. I've got no
Speaker 3: interaction apart from other pricks have died. Essentially, that is like,
Speaker 3: you know what, being dead and being a ghost, right,
Speaker 3: So in Den and going to heaven is like going
Speaker 3: to my bayer, right, being den just leave lying in
Speaker 3: the ground and it's like that's basically just fucking going away.
Speaker 1: Yeah, being dead and being.
Speaker 3: A ghost is like remember on New Year's Eve and
Speaker 3: you wanted to go into like the sky Lounge in
Speaker 3: Leicester Square or something, but you couldn't get in because
Speaker 3: you were in a group of fucking four other mature,
Speaker 3: sad losers like you were, so it was like no
Speaker 3: blokes on their own. So you just had to look
Speaker 3: around Lester Square just fucking like looking for a bar
Speaker 3: that might take you in. That's fucking being a ghost
Speaker 3: for the rest of your life.
Speaker 2: Just cueuing outside the bar one in the morning day,
Speaker 2: not that where you're going to go until you find
Speaker 2: a clip joint that takes all your money.
Speaker 3: It's that's been a fucking ghost. It's constantly just looking
Speaker 3: at the party and never being able to dance.
Speaker 2: Christ's God, you really need to take care of all
Speaker 2: your business before I shoot you in the legging twice
Speaker 2: in the back, because I want that for you. I
Speaker 2: want you going to Yeah, just setting it up. Well,
Speaker 2: Bret cost is coming up here the gates. You a
Speaker 2: right good laugh up here, mate. They got lady curse,
Speaker 2: They've got everything. Even because see us both out, He's
Speaker 2: still okay. Well, good news. There is a heaven and
Speaker 2: it's just like my bayer in all the good ways.
Speaker 2: And let's face it, there are any bad ones, but
Speaker 2: it's field with your favorite things.
Speaker 3: What's your favorite thing? My favorite thing in the world.
Speaker 3: My daughter would probably be my favorite thing, but I'd
Speaker 3: say that, yeah, I had to have a bit more
Speaker 3: than innings and me, so I'd probably go with food.
Speaker 1: Put my favorite thing.
Speaker 2: All right, Well, there's food fucking everywhere. Everywhere, Yes, is
Speaker 2: ladles of food. It's like a sort of you know,
Speaker 2: a food court in a mull, but like that would
Speaker 2: be my heaven.
Speaker 1: It's fucking everywhere.
Speaker 2: The seeds are like giant tacos, Like everything is made
Speaker 2: of food.
Speaker 3: Taking you around heaven on your first and they've got everything.
Speaker 3: And they've got a Wendy's. I've got a CAFC. They've
Speaker 3: got Donald's. Mate, got Toby Carvery, I've got everything in mate. No,
Speaker 3: it's three nandos mate. Honestly, look at that plate. See
Speaker 3: I beg that plate is you can put anything you
Speaker 3: want to that. That's one of the small places. Mate.
Speaker 1: And I've caught up with you. Is this this is
Speaker 1: all you've been doing.
Speaker 2: You're like, I've not even been out of this, but
Speaker 2: I know there's other stuff going on the This.
Speaker 1: Is just all right.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, there's food everywhere. There's also some people there,
Speaker 2: some black walking, hot dogs, all sorts of stuff.
Speaker 1: So it's like that Seth Rogan movie.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, sausage Yeah yeah, sausage by everyone's well excited
Speaker 2: to see you. They won't talk to you about your life,
Speaker 2: but they won't talk to you about your life through film.
Speaker 2: The first thing they ask you is, what's the first
Speaker 2: film you remember seeing? Tom Davis? You know the first
Speaker 2: film Missus Sausage person that I remember seeing The Swish
Speaker 2: there's a Swiss family Wamtson movie right, yes, which was
Speaker 2: made in about I think he's about ninety sixty. It's
Speaker 2: one of those old sixties movies, isn't it. Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: like a kind of it's quite old.
Speaker 3: It's like a b I remember basically near to our
Speaker 3: house grown up, there was a video shop called Joyce's
Speaker 3: Video Shot. It was like sort of almost free Blockbuster,
Speaker 3: and she had about ten videos in so there was
Speaker 3: that one called The Cross of the Switchblade, which is
Speaker 3: about a guy called Nicki Cruz who is like a
Speaker 3: street thug, even based and I just remember there's a
Speaker 3: bit in it and God Loves You Nicky Krus but
Speaker 3: my mum said was.
Speaker 1: Too violent to watch.
Speaker 3: I used to take Swiss family Orntson and it was
Speaker 3: quite a sort of they all got shipwrecked ended up
Speaker 3: on this little island and as a family and it's
Speaker 3: sort of but then they had this big fight with
Speaker 3: some pirates at the end. And I've been cleaning for
Speaker 3: years that sort of. Yeah, it's actually really from what
Speaker 3: I remember, you know, from if I go back and
Speaker 3: sort of almost get back into my seven.
Speaker 1: Year old head and where it's ten year old head,
Speaker 1: I don't know. That's the first film.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's weird in it because you get flashies
Speaker 3: of like guns and avarona or whatever.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Have you got siblings, I've got sister. Yeah. Did
Speaker 1: you watch this together? Is she or younger? Yeah?
Speaker 3: We watch it as a family on a Saturday night.
Speaker 3: We'd usually sort of sit down and have a bit
Speaker 3: of tea. And it was, like I said, she didn't
Speaker 3: have many films, did old Joyce? She it was one
Speaker 3: of those shops that sold wall and videos. She had
Speaker 3: like ten videos, right, you go in and go. My
Speaker 3: dad would go, oh, what's just one? Like if you go,
Speaker 3: I haven't seen that one. Ten fucking films. Yeah right,
Speaker 3: you've got ten things to watch give a review?
Speaker 1: Had the same ten films up until I was about busy.
Speaker 1: I'm busy making I've got time for all these. I'm
Speaker 1: busy shaving his sheep. I've got to watch films see
Speaker 1: if are going to save themselves? Mate? Right, do you
Speaker 1: want wool or a video? What you're in for? Both
Speaker 1: Joys watched A Cross and the switch Blade.
Speaker 3: It's also it's that throwback of I used to love
Speaker 3: that sort of still do. If I'm sitting on a Sunday,
Speaker 3: sort of old school sort of films that look everything's
Speaker 3: really bright.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and there's no sort of blood in it, and
Speaker 3: it just feels very wholesome.
Speaker 1: And they all made in the studio clearly, yeah fake.
Speaker 2: I do remember. It was incredible water slide. There was
Speaker 2: a bit like the one in the Goonies in it.
Speaker 2: Yeah that they they remember the print of Thieves. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it turns that wood into this amazing base. They sort
Speaker 2: of did a shittier version on this island there, which yeah,
Speaker 2: I sort of thought I'd like to go there on holiday,
Speaker 2: that we should go to the sort of water palace
Speaker 2: in Pearling and pretend it was family Robinson.
Speaker 1: What was that called fantasies. I think it got turned
Speaker 1: into a nightclub. It was cool.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the one that everyone used to go to
Speaker 3: and say that there was raising blaze. Yeah, don't go
Speaker 3: down there, don't go down the big time make it's
Speaker 3: raised blazing.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Weird thought when you think about it. The weird that
Speaker 2: they were open with all these razorables, same thing that
Speaker 2: you but yeah you got your razor blades.
Speaker 3: Yeah, go down if you could stop yourself and push
Speaker 3: it in.
Speaker 2: And also that if it was true that there would
Speaker 2: just be hundreds of children just sliced enough, bleeding in
Speaker 2: the pools were being read to just be half kids everywhere.
Speaker 1: You'd have noticed, you know what I mean. But it's really scary.
Speaker 1: I remember being.
Speaker 3: Scared of awful thing just leaving like a water palace,
Speaker 3: just like taped to rivers.
Speaker 2: Yeah see the next way, Yeah, I think so little
Speaker 2: easier next week. Sorry, I don't want to complain. Far
Speaker 2: be it for me to complain, but I think because
Speaker 2: someone say about taking them razor blades there in all
Speaker 2: the all the slides out, No, no my business. I
Speaker 2: see you next week.
Speaker 3: I just having one of the slides as razor blazes
Speaker 3: and sort of letting everyone know which one it is,
Speaker 3: because really I don't want to ruin everyone else's fun,
Speaker 3: just in case our people are into that.
Speaker 2: You doing it in the black hole the dark ones,
Speaker 2: so when you come out, I don't know what's happening.
Speaker 2: Then you come out and everyone's.
Speaker 3: I've been trying to show off to a girl by
Speaker 3: going down there and absolutely shot myself.
Speaker 2: Terrif coming out of the bottom, it was good.
Speaker 1: Where are your trunks?
Speaker 3: The pegger boys toot them off, so that went faster
Speaker 3: if I went naked, they were.
Speaker 2: Right as well, well, what is a film that scared
Speaker 2: you the most? Do you like being scared?
Speaker 1: This is I can't watch her films. I get terrified.
Speaker 3: This is a weird one actually, because yeah, so I
Speaker 3: remember going to a girl's food podcasting, learned not to
Speaker 3: say people's names because you'll be careful to a.
Speaker 1: Girl and a mission crusher. When I was about thirteen
Speaker 1: a twelve thirty, I went to her house to watch
Speaker 1: them films. So we watched The Exorcist and I remember
Speaker 1: sort of sitting there and she was really into it.
Speaker 2: She'd sort of stolen it from my mom and dad
Speaker 2: and we sort of sat in the bedroom watching it.
Speaker 2: I was so I watched the whole thing with my
Speaker 2: eyes closed. She took burnerful the lights and she was like.
Speaker 1: Oh good.
Speaker 3: So I was like, oh, it's so scary, sitting with
Speaker 3: my eyes closed, just thinking, oh god, this is okay.
Speaker 3: And you know what, weirdly, that film's scarier if you
Speaker 3: just listen to it, if you watch yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 3: can't believe that. Yeah, it's quite scary listen. So I
Speaker 3: was never even watched it myself all the way through.
Speaker 1: It wasn't the.
Speaker 3: Sane thing as well as actually just this is like
Speaker 3: years later at Blackpool, Right, they've got this weird haunted house.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you've ever been to it, and
Speaker 3: it's full of like people doing like Freddy krue there's
Speaker 3: a Freddy Krueger, right, yeah, yeah, So you walked through
Speaker 3: this diff is like an immersive.
Speaker 1: Experience and people just actors jump out of you. Yeah.
Speaker 3: And there was like a I remember that in there
Speaker 3: there was a girl like the girl from the Exosus
Speaker 3: sitting in the ben. You go in and she's sitting
Speaker 3: there and then she just leaps up and it's like crazy.
Speaker 3: But there was a guy who jumps out of here
Speaker 3: like Freddy Krueger. And I remember we were going around.
Speaker 3: It was sort of like me and my miss is,
Speaker 3: and there was this sort of like bloke, quite a
Speaker 3: sort of big northern feather with his two young dartists.
Speaker 3: And as we're walking around, he's sort of they terrify
Speaker 3: these two. There's too young to go into this. He
Speaker 3: shouldn't have brought them.
Speaker 1: It was his bad. And he's like all right, and no,
Speaker 1: I'll be out of here in a minute.
Speaker 3: And as we came into his room, this guy leapt
Speaker 3: out behind him just as Freddy Krueger went he and
Speaker 3: fucking whacked him in defense of his daughters. And then
Speaker 3: the guy playing Freddy Krueger went, oh for fuck fake
Speaker 3: two years at rather for this, we realized the whole
Speaker 3: thing is just for everyone. But he was a trained actor,
Speaker 3: and you think, oh, bless, that was his moment to
Speaker 3: scare everyone and this nor them, this normal.
Speaker 1: So I'm fucking sorry that I shouldn't have brought the.
Speaker 3: Bloody punch people in the face. It was a beautiful moment. Yeah,
Speaker 3: when the worlds collid.
Speaker 1: Oh god, so tragic breaking, you know, May Martin, we
Speaker 1: went to Universal Haunted Halloween. Halloween, that's a big one.
Speaker 2: It's fucking great and they have like haunted mazes where
Speaker 2: it's like that where you walk through and things jump
Speaker 2: out of you, people jump out of you, and there is.
Speaker 1: Me and May. We were a group of people when
Speaker 1: they went.
Speaker 2: You go in front and so we're walking through this
Speaker 2: mace is really loud and then things pop out of
Speaker 2: the wall and jump out of you, and there's one
Speaker 2: bit of me and Mavis were walking through a corridor
Speaker 2: and a thing jumped out the side of the wall.
Speaker 2: Arah and I like May was a bomb. I picked
Speaker 2: may up and threw them into a wall.
Speaker 1: And I.
Speaker 2: Like, I would protect them by throwing them into the world.
Speaker 2: I've got you, I've got it mastered into the world.
Speaker 2: Love coming for your head, go down a slide. Anyway,
Speaker 2: that's interesting. What about crying. What's the film that made
Speaker 2: you cry the most? Are you a crier?
Speaker 1: I am? Yeah. Recently. The one that really got to
Speaker 1: me was A Star is Born. Oh yeah, it's a
Speaker 1: great film.
Speaker 3: I loved it. It's a really great film. I went
Speaker 3: with my wife, so my wife had done we did.
Speaker 3: We love we love films, so it's told be part
Speaker 3: of our relationship like films. And you know, we're trying
Speaker 3: now with Graces here, we're tried to once a week
Speaker 3: watch a movie together, like with Its New Weather and
Speaker 3: so she been though even the Stars Barn was a
Speaker 3: bit like Barbie. There was groups of big groups women going.
Speaker 3: It was like she wouldn't mate to the sort of
Speaker 3: like Hindu vibe, which she'll pty ruined it for everyone else.
Speaker 2: Anyway, he's pissing himself, Tom, does that.
Speaker 1: Relatable?
Speaker 3: I was worrying about me that I am Bradley Cooper's character.
Speaker 3: But then we so anyway, we went to watch it anyway,
Speaker 3: she just before the bit, the bit when Brady Cooper
Speaker 3: sort of I mean, we'll have spoilers on it.
Speaker 1: We can say spoiler skip ahead thirty seconds if you
Speaker 1: don't want with Bradley Cooper sort of suicide.
Speaker 3: She got up and she she got out because she
Speaker 3: knew it was quite a sad thing coming. So she
Speaker 3: left me standing there standing. I want standing sitting there standing, understanding. Mate,
Speaker 3: fuck off, I'm enjoying this football. Can we all be upstanding?
Speaker 3: This is very good. We're attacking at the moment. We
Speaker 3: should all stand. I should stand, and cinemas stand up.
Speaker 3: If you like stories born stand.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I'm like sitting there and next to me is another
Speaker 3: guy and then his wife is next to him. So
Speaker 3: this guy is sitting next to me, and when Brandley
Speaker 3: that thing happens with Bradley Cooper, I just went and
Speaker 3: I had tears. I was like, really hit me and
Speaker 3: the guy next to me, I looked around and he
Speaker 3: was equally as sad, and then he just I've never
Speaker 3: met this man before, and he just genterally put his
Speaker 3: hand on my arm and just went and I was like,
Speaker 3: I don't know I'd never It was a really beautiful
Speaker 3: moment between the tervis and then Katherine came back like
Speaker 3: same guy.
Speaker 1: I was like, number one, why did you leave? Just
Speaker 1: as you know.
Speaker 2: Brady Duper is going to fucking nice was sad and
Speaker 2: you know, I want to get you. Oh, the rest
Speaker 2: of the film's gonna be a fucking walking of the
Speaker 2: end of the wisdom was now is it? I can
Speaker 2: deal with the ramification to what's happened, not fucking lady going.
Speaker 2: I was in bits now You're like you left me,
Speaker 2: You left me, and I've moved on. I've moved on
Speaker 2: to a sensitive man look after me. But I saw
Speaker 2: his wife looking like quite just But yeah, I found
Speaker 2: it and it stayed with me for like a week
Speaker 2: or so after. I think it was like, you know,
Speaker 2: I thought it was actually brilliantly done that actually I
Speaker 2: thought within the film it was a really amazing It's
Speaker 2: a very important subject matter, obviously, the one that we're
Speaker 2: all talking about a lot more now, but I found
Speaker 2: it very It's one of those moments and I think
Speaker 2: that's you know, you know when something you see something
Speaker 2: quite amazing, when it stays with you, you think about it
Speaker 2: in your quiet moments you're like and you know, yeah,
Speaker 2: I think sometimes when you know mental health worse and
Speaker 2: you can get to a low place, it's actually quite
Speaker 2: an important piece of work where you actually realized actually
Speaker 2: the ramifications of an actor. And I'm friends have sadly
Speaker 2: done that and you yeah, so I think you find
Speaker 2: that thing. I've just been like, okay, you know it's yeah,
Speaker 2: and I feel actually, yeah, that was one that really
Speaker 2: got me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love you new your new husband. How did
Speaker 1: you both mean?
Speaker 3: Well, I don't remember the Star is Born with Bradie
Speaker 3: Cooper kills himself.
Speaker 1: We were both we were just friend.
Speaker 2: What is the film that is not critically acclaimed? Most
Speaker 2: people don't like it, but you love it unconditionally. I
Speaker 2: think everyone else do.
Speaker 1: You mean like it?
Speaker 3: Because so I love I have a real part for
Speaker 3: ship films. So one of my SAMUELI copp and it's
Speaker 3: have you ever seen it? I just love the title.
Speaker 3: Tell me everything. It's probably one of the work like
Speaker 3: it's Me and my wife have watched it hundreds of time.
Speaker 1: It's really it's like you only get on DVD and.
Speaker 3: It's just it's been made by you know, like we
Speaker 3: have these guys now over in this country make these
Speaker 3: films and sort of like you know, yeah, imoted a
Speaker 3: film a minute, I'm fucking directing it and I'm fucking protuion.
Speaker 3: I've put all the money up. Sort of one of
Speaker 3: those and it's kind of trying to be I guess
Speaker 3: that there is an element of sort of lethal weapon
Speaker 3: and an element of I want to send you a
Speaker 3: copy because I do, Jenny think you'll enjoy element of Rambow.
Speaker 3: You know that's sort of eighties by but it's really bad.
Speaker 3: Like they've there's bits in it they've shot like the
Speaker 3: same scene a scene, and they've show it for five
Speaker 3: or six different days, so people's singles are in different
Speaker 3: Like it's like genius as a comedian scene watching it,
Speaker 3: because you're like, you know, like they're clearly in a
Speaker 3: Chinese restaurant and they're.
Speaker 1: In a sort of downtown CAFs somewhere.
Speaker 3: In LA and it's just and the guy's hair changes
Speaker 3: around the movie.
Speaker 1: He's had his hair shaped of where it's weird wig and.
Speaker 3: The fight scene there's one bit where they're in a
Speaker 3: helicopter and it's like you can't jump from here, and
Speaker 3: you can clearly see that there on the ground. It's
Speaker 3: just yeah, it's brilliantly awful, but it's and yeah, I'll
Speaker 3: just find stuff like I find I gen you find
Speaker 3: that stuff like that just I love watching stuff that's
Speaker 3: just a bit ship the rumor of like for example
Speaker 3: or whatever, but stuff that's just because there's a part
Speaker 3: of me that thinks. You know, when we started out
Speaker 3: and you would go and you do a gig, there
Speaker 3: was a guy I don't know, like I said, you
Speaker 3: bleep out, but I don't know if you remember.
Speaker 2: I forgot about I think first cut isn't it, but bleep.
Speaker 2: He'd been like an open mic guy going bad ten
Speaker 2: years before me and you even started. And I remember
Speaker 2: thinking chatting to him, and I remember I probably had
Speaker 2: my first paid spot somewhere. I remember like, I've got
Speaker 2: paid spot this weekend and him being like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: I've never been paid for a gig. And I was like,
Speaker 2: you been going for like, you know, first fourteen years
Speaker 2: like and he was like, I just enjoy it. I
Speaker 2: just think it's kind of coolout and that's what I
Speaker 2: get from it. And I was like, fuck, actually, maybe
Speaker 2: maybe he's got it right, like he doesn't give a fuck.
Speaker 1: Yeah, You're so right. He was no mission.
Speaker 2: He just enjoyed it and he was going out doing
Speaker 2: open mics and there was no like you know, me
Speaker 2: and you became a career and probably you know we're
Speaker 2: similar time and we're like, funk this is with him,
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, ship man. And when I watch films
Speaker 2: like that, I'm like, it feels a bit like actually,
Speaker 2: you know kind of guys that sort of get down
Speaker 2: the gym or whatever, or they're making something that actually
Speaker 2: they were actually really enjoying the process.
Speaker 1: There's a felt that Yeah, there's a British sort of.
Speaker 3: Version call Gap with Gangsters, which is again it's just
Speaker 3: like a group of people have made a film tells
Speaker 3: didn't have.
Speaker 1: The day, What the fuck? What is this?
Speaker 2: But it was like a yeah, I love those I
Speaker 2: think there's no Yeah, there's no endgame.
Speaker 1: They're not. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Me and you were writing yeah, we're very fortunately what
Speaker 2: we do. You're writing it hopefully do make something that
Speaker 2: people who enjoy sitting and watch the idea of just
Speaker 2: sitting there and making something that no one's ever going
Speaker 2: to see or no one's only going to watch apart
Speaker 2: from you and the people in it. I think kind
Speaker 2: of sort of uplifting. I think it's just like it's
Speaker 2: a bit of a hobby. I saw a film. I
Speaker 2: don't know if I've talked about this on the podcast,
Speaker 2: but I was once. I won't say I'll try and
Speaker 2: leave out details, right, but I once, and I would
Speaker 2: never do it against. I didn't enjoy it till I
Speaker 2: was asked to be like on a for like an
Speaker 2: awards thing for film, and it was like picking the
Speaker 2: nominees for a certain kind of film. And I watched
Speaker 2: so many films and they were all really boring, very serious,
Speaker 2: very depressing, kind of dull, hard work films that like,
Speaker 2: you know, feel like vegetables.
Speaker 1: Were like, I'm sure this is good for you, but
Speaker 1: fuck me, it's boring.
Speaker 2: And within the mix of these films was this terrible,
Speaker 2: as in kind of objectively terrible film that a guy
Speaker 2: had made on his own that was kind of like
Speaker 2: a sci fi thriller but like badly shot, badly acted.
Speaker 2: There's like clearly a scene where he's hired a sex
Speaker 2: worker to strip on the film, and there's like all
Speaker 2: sorts of it's like mad, but it was so entertaining,
Speaker 2: and so I was watching it and I was like
Speaker 2: this hour and a half has flown by regardless compared
Speaker 2: to all these films that I've watched that have been
Speaker 2: so boring and hard work, this film that, yes, kind
Speaker 2: of technically is technically quite bad. I was like, maybe
Speaker 2: this is amazing because I'm not even like laughing at
Speaker 2: I'm not like going you fucking it. I'm like, I'm
Speaker 2: really entertained, Like this is great, this is fun. This
Speaker 2: is like something's happening here that is really entertaining. And
Speaker 2: I'm like, which film film? It's like, escape is, isn't it.
Speaker 2: It's just like, I'll fuck it.
Speaker 3: I'm not going to think about why the problems and like, yeah,
Speaker 3: so Sam cop Is I think it's just perfectly awful.
Speaker 3: It's really worth if you can't get a copy of it.
Speaker 3: I've got two copies of it, just the case one forwards.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, I got a great answer. All right.
Speaker 2: Well, on the other hand, what's the film that you
Speaker 2: used to love You loved it so much and watched
Speaker 2: it recently and it does not hold up?
Speaker 1: Incredible Journey?
Speaker 2: Oh no, the original or the new one with the manager?
Speaker 2: Really look, so that was a film you know, like
Speaker 2: you'd have a sick day from school. You'd stay off,
Speaker 2: you'd have a bit of a tummy at your mom
Speaker 2: would do a best of look after you between Yeah.
Speaker 1: This is kind I just check. This is the third
Speaker 1: film from Joyce's ten.
Speaker 2: Twitch Blade Twiss Blades Across Across Swiss family said, The
Speaker 2: Incredible Journey if you had a day off, Yeah, you
Speaker 2: had a dicky tarmin h.
Speaker 3: Yeah you're a bit sick your mama. I can't get
Speaker 3: the incredible and the Incredible Journey is the thing you'd
Speaker 3: see and I have these memories of it being like,
Speaker 3: it's an amazing film that's sort of uplifting and incredible.
Speaker 3: It's about friendship, it's you. And then I sort of
Speaker 3: sat because Grace's loves dogs. I thought, you know, well
Speaker 3: a little blast from the plastic this on. I got
Speaker 3: off and through it. She was interested. She walked off
Speaker 3: and I was like, this is awful. I don't know,
Speaker 3: I don't know. It just is not as it's number one.
Speaker 3: It's a really boring journey. When you sit back and go.
Speaker 1: Back and watch the boring journey, The boring journey, just
Speaker 1: get a cap.
Speaker 3: The guy's voice commentating and commentating and gone, the cat
Speaker 3: trying to get.
Speaker 1: Good luck to remember.
Speaker 2: The Yeah, but the cat, you know, and do you
Speaker 2: know what when I sit and watch it, I've never
Speaker 2: seen it. It's about a dog, two dogs, and a
Speaker 2: cat trying to cross America. There's the really, there's a thirsty,
Speaker 2: eager dogs a cat. When you watch it that it's
Speaker 2: actually really The lead dog clearly is very happy he's
Speaker 2: got a part of the film. The cat can't be
Speaker 2: fucking lost. He can see that the owners are for
Speaker 2: it more than he is. And the old one can't
Speaker 2: be bothered. It's like, you know, like when you watched
Speaker 2: the last days of a great performers career, like an
Speaker 2: old footler. He's just, you know, he's just phoning it in.
Speaker 2: That's what the dog feels like. I'd like to actually
Speaker 2: look at the dog's MDB and see if he's been
Speaker 2: in anything else, like of set just turning around and
Speaker 2: going well.
Speaker 1: Obviously trumps as a part.
Speaker 2: The Incredible Journey was a nightmare. Catering was awful.
Speaker 3: One of those silver jackets off for most of the shoe.
Speaker 1: So why is it?
Speaker 2: It's boring? That's the problem. And also I think I
Speaker 2: remembered it with such gusto. I remembered it in such
Speaker 2: an affectionate way, and it was really until gracious ball.
Speaker 1: I was like, and I.
Speaker 3: Think, you know, I sat down to watch it just
Speaker 3: thinking this will be a moment with father and daughter.
Speaker 3: You know, this is one of my happiest memories of it.
Speaker 3: Whish I'd stuck on across to the switch Blade, which
Speaker 3: was she might have taken her own away from it
Speaker 3: is bad.
Speaker 1: Arguably God is good.
Speaker 2: But but instead yeah, we sat like, I say, it's yeah,
Speaker 2: I think she Yeah, it won't be so much. She
Speaker 2: won't be her poorly tummy film. So well, what is
Speaker 2: the film that means the most to you? Not necessarily
Speaker 2: is the film itself is good, but the experience you
Speaker 2: had around seeing the film will always make it.
Speaker 1: Special to you. Tom Davis, what is it? Well? I
Speaker 1: think Breakhours it would be great. The is it bad? Grandpa?
Speaker 1: The film? With the Jackass film, We're like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: Johnny Knoxville, me and Katherine went to watch that really
Speaker 3: early on in our relationship, and.
Speaker 1: Have you ever seen it? It's actually I don't know.
Speaker 1: I've seen some of it Amazon. We used to remember it.
Speaker 3: We prety watched it three times, but it's one of
Speaker 3: those things wherever it will pop up on Amazon Prime
Speaker 3: or whatever on Netflix, we're really really chuckle because it
Speaker 3: was one of the first films that we went to
Speaker 3: as a couple to the cinema and really bonded over
Speaker 3: the just the I think we shared the same it's few.
Speaker 3: It's one of those things as well, I think as
Speaker 3: a big fan of film and might I say it's
Speaker 3: one of the things that since stopping like not really
Speaker 3: drinking now, it's like, yeah, you're what you're going to
Speaker 3: do socially sort of and film to the cinema is
Speaker 3: a big part of our social lives and what we
Speaker 3: do is a couple. But I remember going to see
Speaker 3: that and actually the first that was that felt one
Speaker 3: of the first things that we saw that actually we
Speaker 3: both laughed thoads at and we both felt like it
Speaker 3: was you know, okay, Jack, and we went back and
Speaker 3: watched all the films and yeah, it just it's a
Speaker 3: really I think it's really really well done. I think
Speaker 3: Johnny Not was amazing. I think The Little Boy it's incredible,
Speaker 3: and it's sort of I think a really underrated thing
Speaker 3: within our industry of the actual the ability and other
Speaker 3: people tried, but to sort of write sort of narrative
Speaker 3: arc through a film and actually have sort of empathy
Speaker 3: towards a character that you're shooting in front of real people,
Speaker 3: like as someone that we murdered, successful and stuff that.
Speaker 3: Like for a long time, I was like really tried,
Speaker 3: like for a murdered successful first start, and we would
Speaker 3: started talking about what would be a film that we'd
Speaker 3: want to make. I was always like that that there.
Speaker 3: I felt like, fucking hell, that must have been so
Speaker 3: like knowing how it worked with murder and that emprovisational nature.
Speaker 3: Watching that I was with that kid who is incredible,
Speaker 3: the shock moments and it all. I think I probably
Speaker 3: in a way enjoyed it more than something, maybe even
Speaker 3: more at I think just because I felt the actual
Speaker 3: feeling that you got through it. It felt like, actually it
Speaker 3: was touchable and actually the story and I was having
Speaker 3: to spent time with his grandson and his daughter.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I think it was a really nice movie and just
Speaker 3: brilliant the set pieces that does. Again, like you know,
Speaker 3: I'm a comedy guy. I love comedy. It's my adore it.
Speaker 3: And when I sit and watch something that can make
Speaker 3: a fucking pack cinema pissed their pants laughing, and it
Speaker 3: can be as pure as you know, shipping yourself a
Speaker 3: big fart that just turns into a guy shipping himself
Speaker 3: up a wall. I think it's a really special thing,
Speaker 3: and I think that's Yeah, it's something that I remember.
Speaker 1: Really really affectionately.
Speaker 3: Like there's other films that stars Ball or whatever else
Speaker 3: come along over the last ten years that we we
Speaker 3: sit and you know, I watched over and over again,
Speaker 3: but that one I always think that was that sort
Speaker 3: of cemented that sort of sense of human that we
Speaker 3: still find funny in between them.
Speaker 1: What is the film you most relate to. There's a
Speaker 1: couple I think.
Speaker 3: Have you ever seen Fist Footway with Danny McBride Jody Hill, Yeah,
Speaker 3: his first thing. Yeah, that when it came out weirdly
Speaker 3: as the lead character, Danny McBride is someone I look
Speaker 3: at as being that's my Shakespeare in a lot of senses,
Speaker 3: that's the guy that I look at when when Danny McBride,
Speaker 3: when I first saw that movie, I was like, it's
Speaker 3: a really weird thing that I saw that just as
Speaker 3: I was making things like warm Up Guy, and I
Speaker 3: was first right and I was first coming out of
Speaker 3: stand up to write sort of you know, and that
Speaker 3: was like, wow, fuck, like this this guy's doing the
Speaker 3: stuff that feels like the characters that I find really
Speaker 3: really funny the world and he's never and it's funny.
Speaker 3: Was always first with him, and you know, going down
Speaker 3: to East Band and down the Vice Principles as the
Speaker 3: work of absolutely genius rich As Gems, I think. But
Speaker 3: that film when I first saw it and I then
Speaker 3: heard the story behind it, and you know, that's like
Speaker 3: your relationship when you made Super Bowl, but mind of
Speaker 3: James's relations James to Fund's relationship, I was always like, fuck,
Speaker 3: that felt like really like the way that you guys
Speaker 3: have put this together as a director and a style
Speaker 3: and two writers felt like attainable for where I'm at
Speaker 3: in this industry and what I want to do it,
Speaker 3: but also making a character that was arguably quite unlikable,
Speaker 3: very very lovable. You're like this guys, and I just
Speaker 3: think he in how he makes stuff and how they
Speaker 3: make stuff really like they have such great identity with
Speaker 3: the working classes, whether that's in America or England. It
Speaker 3: just feels like I just get that nuance just perfect.
Speaker 3: So that that film and I saw it, I was like,
Speaker 3: look there, I love comedy movies. That's the film where
Speaker 3: I watched it. I was like, both as a creator,
Speaker 3: but also something about the guy in the middle of it,
Speaker 3: you know, he's the main character in it. I was like,
Speaker 3: there's a lot of stuff that I can identify with
Speaker 3: as a character a sort of by struggling in his
Speaker 3: relationship at the time or struggling to be taken seriously.
Speaker 2: Did you say he's unlikable but very lovable.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's such a brilliant way of putting it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: because it's the same as Kenny Powers. You sort of
Speaker 2: watch it and there's a lot of stuff that's not
Speaker 2: and it feels fucking you know, very is now and
Speaker 2: it's someone has just lost and I think that's a
Speaker 2: really interesting thing to be able to convey. And I
Speaker 2: think that's the thing that I want to watch.
Speaker 1: That's something.
Speaker 2: Would you say there's a bit of that in King Garry,
Speaker 2: Isn't there like like, yeah, incredibly love is incredibly lovable.
Speaker 1: It's also a dick, but you but you really really
Speaker 1: really love it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and all the people that I love that and
Speaker 2: you know, probably like you mean, you know, a lot
Speaker 2: of the stuff that was the stuff that I really
Speaker 2: took inspiration from as a stand up and as a
Speaker 2: writer and program maker.
Speaker 1: Was all was American.
Speaker 2: It was all the stuff that you know that he
Speaker 2: seemed to be able to do that, and their characters
Speaker 2: seem to be so much so better around it. But
Speaker 2: actually too because we have a real problem within society
Speaker 2: if people, you know, in some points, in some cases, yeah,
Speaker 2: people are just ship but actually in a lot of
Speaker 2: when when you write normal characters and normal people.
Speaker 3: They're so conflicted by what is good and what it's bad.
Speaker 3: We all are in twenty twenty three. We're all trying
Speaker 3: to be as better as a person we can, but
Speaker 3: there's so much fucking noise going on. You're like, what
Speaker 3: do I follow? What do I You know, it was
Speaker 3: far simpler as it's out, as it says, ten to
Speaker 3: fifteen years ago, where actually you'd sort of almost be
Speaker 3: surrounded by people and you can cast your opinions.
Speaker 1: There's so many, so much noise.
Speaker 3: Now, and I think that actually making characters that feel
Speaker 3: off now, and that's just people trying to be the
Speaker 3: best they can. But quite a lot of time failing
Speaker 3: in that. I think that's really I think Dannie McBride
Speaker 3: and joy that anyway, And to be fair, man, your
Speaker 3: fucking life does man, you get that so well. You
Speaker 3: you've always got that. That's what I loved. You know,
Speaker 3: super Bop did that so well.
Speaker 1: But you do you do it so well?
Speaker 3: Man, It's it's a real difficult it's a difficult thing
Speaker 3: to do. Yeah, so that that would be the thing
Speaker 3: that I related see the most respect excellent, excellent answer.
Speaker 3: Here's the question that everyone is here for. What's the
Speaker 3: sexist film scene? Some David, I think it's a classic
Speaker 3: and everyone's probably but basic instinct would probably do that.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, is.
Speaker 2: That the one? Is that the one that everyone no?
Speaker 2: But it is the way everyone should say. I'm sure
Speaker 2: basic instinct was you know Seminal the like pirate copies
Speaker 2: of it leaking about the store, and a boy called
Speaker 2: had the best campaign and he was like, yeah, not
Speaker 2: but the time I got it was very all now,
Speaker 2: but you know that feeling of like it was like
Speaker 2: a fucking Charlie bucket with the last golden ticket. I
Speaker 2: remember the day that Yeah, someone slips over to him's
Speaker 2: basically stick turn out with you and like literally being
Speaker 2: like okay, and.
Speaker 3: It'd be like someone gave me and you throw fin
Speaker 3: and finished score three. I'll get the bus, hopefully I'll
Speaker 3: get home by four. My sister's going to someone's house
Speaker 3: to play. My mom doesn't get onto a fire. Well
Speaker 3: that it's a lottery. It depends what Yeah, what job
Speaker 3: he's on at the moment, Joe and put you have
Speaker 3: one VHS recording in the fucking front room, and it's
Speaker 3: a real life I need to get home and then yeah,
Speaker 3: far forwarding through it, just get on the.
Speaker 1: Scene, not whenever missed anything.
Speaker 3: I'm just hoping that someone give your codd it was yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: it was sort.
Speaker 2: Of feld yeah yeah, plot plot plot, Yeah, okay, I
Speaker 2: get it.
Speaker 1: I get it.
Speaker 3: She's not very nice, but actually, really the brunette moments
Speaker 3: even worse. She seems like, yeah, even though it's terrible,
Speaker 3: fucking like, yeah, twenty five, thirty years later, whatever, I
Speaker 3: still can't fucking tell you what happens in that movie.
Speaker 2: I don't think i've ever Yeah, it's about wooing and
Speaker 2: she's got a shot. Maybe I think she works at Macy's.
Speaker 1: She's got a shop and she sits down in a shop.
Speaker 2: Sometimes she's got a fellow from Wall Street in I
Speaker 2: think he's doing so far. I think, yeah, he's doing
Speaker 2: some Wall Street stuff. She's also she's quite a shop
Speaker 2: I think. I think she's engaged to Newman from Sinfield. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he seems pleased to see her a lot.
Speaker 1: He sweats quite a lot. What do you did in Sidefield? Actually, but.
Speaker 2: It's more it's more sweaty, like it's more sort of
Speaker 2: Jurassic part of the Seinfeld guy. He's more that he's doing
Speaker 2: that bit anyway. Yeah, I think it's good. It's a
Speaker 2: great sweater. Actually, that's where I seem to be. Actually Weirdly,
Speaker 2: I'll go back and that's the person I relate to
Speaker 2: mo Show in any film, Sweaty Newman, the sub category
Speaker 2: traveling Boner's worrying white ones the filmy found aroused and
Speaker 2: you weren't sure you should.
Speaker 3: You know, the really weird one for minutes. Like I
Speaker 3: remember sitting around at the aunt and of course and
Speaker 3: this was playing. It's chit Chitty Bang Bank, right, you know,
Speaker 3: the horrible King and he's sort of missus, you know,
Speaker 3: like they did a song of like You're My toll
Speaker 3: Lollipop oh my teddy bear and he sort of chases
Speaker 3: her around. I used to find I remember that probably
Speaker 3: being the first time I had to sort of like
Speaker 3: slowly grub a pillow over.
Speaker 1: That was the.
Speaker 2: Good I like you five years before Bess on the
Speaker 2: bus home from school with Chit Chitty Bang Bank.
Speaker 1: I got get in there. Everyone's gonna having five. You're
Speaker 1: my little lollipop. Let's go twitching in the Choyce. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that the lollipop song, the Teddy bed Lollipops on twenty.
Speaker 2: Worn Joyce, I'm gonna need some wo bang bang go.
Speaker 2: What's the world for? Don't ask Joyce? Don't you just
Speaker 2: shut up?
Speaker 1: Joyce?
Speaker 3: Come up against it, you mate. They're going to be finished,
Speaker 3: they'll be ome from work at five. That would be
Speaker 3: the that's the.
Speaker 2: One that yeah, I think, yeah, yeah, yeah it feel's
Speaker 2: got seen you in the way. No, I love it.
Speaker 2: That's brilliant. Well, Tom Davis, what is objectively, objectively the
Speaker 2: greatest film ever made?
Speaker 1: Do you know what? I think? It's The Apartment with Jackman.
Speaker 2: Oh. Excellent, excellent answer. I feel I think that film
Speaker 2: started everything that me and you do now. I think
Speaker 2: that was the first sort of like wrong comedy sort
Speaker 2: of character back, and I think it's got such a
Speaker 2: great It's just I rewatched it recently and it was
Speaker 2: that weird thing. And when I was starting to write scripts,
Speaker 2: my mum went out and she went, I've got your present,
Speaker 2: and she been to Oxfam and she's got like a
Speaker 2: Billy Wilder script book and it had like that and
Speaker 2: a fortune cookie written at scripts.
Speaker 3: So I'd sit and watch the films and got off
Speaker 3: the script. So I think it was like for a
Speaker 3: lot of reasons, it became like this really yeah, like strong,
Speaker 3: and I just think it's just yeah, when you look
Speaker 3: at it and you can sort of see in its
Speaker 3: DNA everything that you know, John Apatow and the people
Speaker 3: that I think are incredible, just genuinely that sort of screwball,
Speaker 3: wrong com It just has all of that, and like
Speaker 3: I say, the center part of it, that sort of
Speaker 3: relationship between you know, Sherm Payne, and I think it's
Speaker 3: frequent that it's the Boss and this guy just sort
Speaker 3: of air and some of the comedy set pieces. You
Speaker 3: have a neighbor thinking constantly like he's having this party
Speaker 3: style life start. He's literally walking there. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 3: he gets it's just brilliant man, and that there's a
Speaker 3: real time there that sort of we you know, Joyce's
Speaker 3: video shot had that sort of that sort of film
Speaker 3: and like that and things like bringing up Baby and
Speaker 3: there's something when we were like King Gary or you're
Speaker 3: making film and you go back and watch these things
Speaker 3: about look, you know, I love swearing.
Speaker 1: It's whatever.
Speaker 2: But there's a great Cary Grant in that and they're
Speaker 2: they're they're brilliant, those sort of those films at that time.
Speaker 2: I think you could have learned so much of the
Speaker 2: writer just sitting and watching those An apartment really for
Speaker 2: me is I think, yeah, I think it set so
Speaker 2: much stuff. Wonderful, wonderful. What is the film you could
Speaker 2: or have? What's the most over and over again? Probably
Speaker 2: I'd say the Hangover? I mean the Hangover. If it's
Speaker 2: ever on me and Catherine will sitting it will just
Speaker 2: play on both. We could be sitting.
Speaker 3: Down to watch another film, like we're gonna watch like Barbie,
Speaker 3: and then you'll go to I TV too and you go,
Speaker 3: fuck hangovers.
Speaker 1: Just might as well watch ten minutes.
Speaker 3: I love this bit and then you before you know,
Speaker 3: they're looking at the photos at the end. I think
Speaker 3: it's a work of it's a really weird thing. It's
Speaker 3: a bit like Friends in the sense of when you
Speaker 3: first watch it, you're completely obsessed with Zach arf like it,
Speaker 3: so you know, he's just everything, and then you sort
Speaker 3: of like work.
Speaker 1: You know, Bradley Cooper comes and then actually you just
Speaker 1: go fucking Edie Holmes as the start of this film.
Speaker 1: It's so fucking.
Speaker 3: Brilliant, and it's just a brilliant. I just think it's
Speaker 3: a perfect comedy movie. I think it's and it just
Speaker 3: never fails to make me laugh. I think it's Yeah,
Speaker 3: I think it just it has that level of ambition
Speaker 3: as a comedy piece. But yeah, I just think, yeah,
Speaker 3: that is is wonderful bit of work.
Speaker 2: Respect respect what is We don't like to be negative
Speaker 2: and you you like this stuff, so like, what's the
Speaker 2: worst film you there?
Speaker 1: See?
Speaker 2: It's quite easy for this The LIBERATORI movie really under
Speaker 2: the under the Candle Libra.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I went to watching I think I was hung over.
Speaker 3: I think probably, but I went to watch it at
Speaker 3: Catherine and we both first sleep ten minutes in and uh,
Speaker 3: sort of at the end of when that movie was
Speaker 3: ship and this woman in front of me so Managy went,
Speaker 3: I'm surprised, you know you you're snoring through most of it.
Speaker 3: And so not only did I ruined it for everyone
Speaker 3: else in the cinema, and then I was like, maybe
Speaker 3: you were too harsh in it. We tried to give
Speaker 3: it another watch, and yeah, and I'm a positive guy.
Speaker 3: I just found it just I just couldn't get on
Speaker 3: board with it. It's hard as well, because the thing
Speaker 3: about it, right it is, did you know this industry?
Speaker 3: I find it really difficult to be as you know,
Speaker 3: I've grown into it. I find it really really hard
Speaker 3: to be negative about stuff because I know that people
Speaker 3: have put time and effort into things, and to write
Speaker 3: script is difficult or to that what I just found
Speaker 3: and it really I could see that it just didn't.
Speaker 1: Resonate with me. I just I found it really difficult watch.
Speaker 1: I just didn't.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel bad saying this now, but I had
Speaker 3: to say something. You've pushed me into a corner and
Speaker 3: everyone in it is financially Yeah, I could have said,
Speaker 3: there's two other things I was thinking of which I
Speaker 3: won't say. And I know that everyone else is still
Speaker 3: nicking a living. There's still just a bad fucking head
Speaker 3: above all, what I know is Michael Douglas doesn't need
Speaker 3: Tom Davis to review his films and go, yeah, he's
Speaker 3: done right and.
Speaker 2: Very positive on Basic AGAINSTCT Sure, yes, yeah. Actually to
Speaker 2: be fair well, Michael Douglas.
Speaker 3: Is what he didn't even watch Basic against Me. Didn't
Speaker 3: even enjoy your sexies too busy watching sweating.
Speaker 2: You mean, what is the film that made you You're funny,
Speaker 2: You're very funny. What's the film that made you laugh
Speaker 2: the most? I think sort of Uncle Buck. And I
Speaker 2: think anything with John Candy was like I've heard John Candy.
Speaker 2: I think trains planes, I think trains plays is moments,
Speaker 2: small moments like I watch and I think he was
Speaker 2: just absolute.
Speaker 1: He was a good farm river but all like.
Speaker 3: Everything like if there's any one person, you know, Danny McBride,
Speaker 3: I think for certain size, but that sign of like
Speaker 3: to be sort of vulnerable but still so massive and
Speaker 3: sort of have this sort of like you know, and
Speaker 3: trained planes. There's just amazing little one liners that he has.
Speaker 3: There's a moment with Steve Martin when they're driving to
Speaker 3: the first hotel and they just left the airport and
Speaker 3: they're in that cab, this sort of like quite sort
Speaker 3: of aggressive looking dude.
Speaker 5: And Steve Martin just turns around and find you said
Speaker 5: this was like ten minutes down the road. And John
Speaker 5: Candy's like he's given us a guyed tour. It's it's
Speaker 5: like you're president, You're not. It's like he's proud of
Speaker 5: his town. It's a rare thing this day is and
Speaker 5: I don't know what. Let's look.
Speaker 3: I laugh every time that moment comes on because it's
Speaker 3: such a small thing that's so real. And he's just
Speaker 3: performance across the film and I just think he yeah,
Speaker 3: he's just like the perfect before I think it was
Speaker 3: the improviser and you know, Uncle Buck again. They're films
Speaker 3: that I'll just sit and I watch Carl running and
Speaker 3: I just think he managed to just take the art
Speaker 3: of being funny but actually just package it and it's
Speaker 3: completely believable. And to be a big guy and not
Speaker 3: to ever rely on your size as being a sort
Speaker 3: of like aggressive side of things.
Speaker 2: That's so interesting. I never I never thought about that.
Speaker 2: There's no the joke is never that he's he's always he's.
Speaker 3: And he's always vulnerable, and I think that's yeah, he's yeah,
Speaker 3: so yeah, I think and if you were John candyon
Speaker 3: makes me laugh, but often quite a lot at the
Speaker 3: time will make me cry as well. I think I
Speaker 3: think the end of Trains Planes, arguably at that moment,
Speaker 3: is just I'm done and a speech.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: I like me, my wife likes me. You're like, wow,
Speaker 1: a little bit of your fucking Yeah, he's there, man.
Speaker 1: It's a beautiful thing.
Speaker 2: That weirdly the last person I recorded this podcast. We
Speaker 2: also picked John Candy. We talked about him a lot,
Speaker 2: and he is like pure you want to talk about
Speaker 2: fucking likability, Like you love him, you just love him
Speaker 2: and everything. Yeah, he's like instantly, you fucking love it because.
Speaker 3: It's interesting as how like yeah, Dandie mcpride and say
Speaker 3: Will Ferrell have like massive impacts on me as a
Speaker 3: comedian and stuff that I think is amazing to tell.
Speaker 3: But they're both and you know, in the they're probably
Speaker 3: more inspiring some ways, but actually want to watch Candy.
Speaker 3: It's an art of his characters and there for that thing.
Speaker 3: They're always like, let's and it's probably a time time
Speaker 3: has changed and times progressed, and you know, we're not
Speaker 3: having to make sort of a protagonists always likable to
Speaker 3: sort of sell a thing, but he managed to do
Speaker 3: that and actually but then and just she rooted for
Speaker 3: him in every scenario. It's like I sit watching called
Speaker 3: Buck and still that bit when he's in with the
Speaker 3: teacher great scenes because you know he's still managedes to
Speaker 3: be the underdog in all those situations. That's really Yeah,
Speaker 3: he's I think he's up there for one of the
Speaker 3: greatest ever performers. Think you know that's what let's get
Speaker 3: started JFK because my guy fucking goes in there.
Speaker 1: JFK's incredible. Yeah, it I forget that. It's incredible now.
Speaker 2: Tom Davis, Yes, sir, you have been magnificent as expected. However,
Speaker 2: ten years in the future, when for some awfully tragic reason,
Speaker 2: you're suddenly very frail and you and I are going
Speaker 2: to do always be Comedy with James Gill and You're
Speaker 2: like hobbling up the steps and I'm having to help you,
Speaker 2: and you say.
Speaker 1: Do you remember I said, And suddenly you've got an accent?
Speaker 1: Do you remember? I said? Do you remember? I said,
Speaker 1: if I'm ever too.
Speaker 2: Fail to take care of me, And I said, yeah,
Speaker 2: I do, Tom, It's so tragic, happens so quickly, And
Speaker 2: I say, you go ahead, you go ahead. I said,
Speaker 2: go ahead, like in Good Fellows Robert and he was keep.
Speaker 1: Going, going there.
Speaker 2: When you're walking, you're walking up the stairs, you're like
Speaker 2: really like, yeah, just keep keep yeah yeah, and you're
Speaker 2: like to be phra it's not actually that many steps.
Speaker 1: Probably you're the gun. Well, I'm trying to just put
Speaker 1: a silence on it.
Speaker 2: But annoyingly with putting the silence, run it's quite noisy, ironic.
Speaker 1: And but you're and you're.
Speaker 2: Like, keep going. Just James is up there, James up there, Yeah,
Speaker 2: keep going. And you're like, are you sure. Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: weird because he's never done stand.
Speaker 1: Up on Tuesdays.
Speaker 2: And and and James is going, you're ready, and I'm
Speaker 2: going there, just going there, just going and go anyway.
Speaker 1: And then I shoot you in the leg, in the back,
Speaker 1: yead and then you look at my face.
Speaker 2: I'm smiling, right, yeah, you look at you. You played along.
Speaker 2: You're a wonderful act. So you played along and you
Speaker 2: knew what was happening. And I've got a coffin with me,
Speaker 2: you know, I'm like in the other hand, and I go, oh,
Speaker 2: there is And then James comes out and he goes,
Speaker 2: what are you doing? And I go, James, I've just
Speaker 2: shut Tom three times as requested James. We got we've
Speaker 2: got a shower. I go, I know, listen, I do
Speaker 2: I can go longer, will be fine. I said, help
Speaker 2: me out here, and he goes, well, what we're going
Speaker 2: to do. We get him in the coffin, but we're
Speaker 2: gonna do it in chunks, and so he goes, well
Speaker 2: quick and he gets Tim and he says, Tim, you've got.
Speaker 1: Tim Lewis comes out of an axe. He goes, yeah,
Speaker 1: what do you do?
Speaker 2: I said, well, I just need to chop up Tom
Speaker 2: Davis here and go, oh god, with like three minutes
Speaker 2: till the shower.
Speaker 1: Go yeah, it'll be fine.
Speaker 2: So we just chopping out the body, choppingup body, chop
Speaker 2: everybody on the stairs, bits going everywhere. We packed you
Speaker 2: in the coffin. I'll be honest, there was more more
Speaker 2: of you than I was expecting. That coffin is absolutely rammed.
Speaker 2: It is packed right, what with your walking stick and
Speaker 2: your walker and all the accouterments you. It's a greedy
Speaker 2: person a pick a mix. It's every it's everywhere right.
Speaker 2: It's there's no room in this coffin. There's really only
Speaker 2: enough room for me to slide one DVD in the
Speaker 2: side for you to take across to the other side.
Speaker 2: And when you get there, it's movie night every night.
Speaker 2: What film are you taking to show the Sussage Party
Speaker 2: in Heaven when it is your movie night, missus tom Days,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 3: What I think it would. I think it would have
Speaker 3: been The Hangover. I think it has enough. I think
Speaker 3: it's enough in it. I think I can watch that
Speaker 3: most nights and I'll take so new from it. I
Speaker 3: think there's so many different things, but I think, you
Speaker 3: know what, that would be the one. Okay, there'd be
Speaker 3: an incredible moment when Freddie Cooper walks past and he's like,
Speaker 3: oh my God, and I'm like, this is it, mate,
Speaker 3: It's the only film that I've got to watch. He's like, yeah,
Speaker 3: nobody else has picked this movie. I was, mate, if
Speaker 3: you want a story, when I went to see the
Speaker 3: stars balling up my first gay kiss.
Speaker 2: He sits down next to you and I guess, fucking
Speaker 2: hell boy.
Speaker 3: And that's when the end music plays out rings. It's
Speaker 3: a double ending, Tom Davis, what's a delight? Is there
Speaker 3: anything you would like to tell people to look out?
Speaker 3: What to watch for I suggest I go see you
Speaker 3: on tour for starters, I'd say the tour which will
Speaker 3: be a lot of fun, which is going to be
Speaker 3: around the UK from February next year or whatever.
Speaker 1: This goes out, and also one cut is out.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you're which is I've not seen it yet,
Speaker 2: so hopefully I've made a cut.
Speaker 1: I hope.
Speaker 3: Fingers squatsed so that comes out of the fifteenth, so
Speaker 3: that it'll be a lot of fun. So they go
Speaker 3: and watch. If nothing else is Timothy channel may be amazing. Okay,
Speaker 3: Tom Davis, I love you, bless.
Speaker 1: You, brother, enjoy thank you so much. Thank you taking
Speaker 1: on this journey. Bro.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we've really we've really been places. I'd say that
Speaker 2: many ways. It's been an incredible journey.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Have a good night, good day. Thank you.
Speaker 2: So that was episode two hundred tventy four. Head over
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Speaker 2: My neighbor more and loves it and always cries. Thank
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Speaker 2: for being so brilliant. Thank you to Scrubious Pip and
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Speaker 1: So that is it for now. I'll be back.
Speaker 2: Next week with another excellent guest that you will love.
Speaker 2: But in the meantime, have a lovely week and please,
Speaker 2: now more than ever, be excellent to each other.
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