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Speaker 1: Let's go back to well, shoot, even French Indo China
Speaker 1: is not going to be good enough. Let's go back
Speaker 1: to World War two wish, World War two wish, and
Speaker 1: what we're gonna be talking about today is Vietnam. What
Speaker 1: you know as Vietnam, but we have to do a
Speaker 1: brief setup on it to understand what kind of people
Speaker 1: we're dealing with over there. The one of the things
Speaker 1: I love so much about history is the more you
Speaker 1: read about it, listen to a podcast on it, watch
Speaker 1: a TV show about it, the easier it is to
Speaker 1: learn the rest of it, because it all bleeds together.
Speaker 1: You learn one subject and all of a sudden you
Speaker 1: get a little curious, Well, what happened what happened before this?
Speaker 1: Oh oh, that's really interesting. That explains how they got there.
Speaker 1: We'll wait, where did that go after? And oh, oh,
Speaker 1: I get it that one thing led to another. It
Speaker 1: just it always builds on itself. I get people who
Speaker 1: email in or call in all the time, and how
Speaker 1: do you know so much about history? One, I don't
Speaker 1: know so much about history. I just geek out on it.
Speaker 1: So I dig into it and learn it too. Like
Speaker 1: I said, once you get a base of knowledge about something,
Speaker 1: it just builds on itself. Seemingly unrelated things will build
Speaker 1: on themselves. Learning about how the Netherlands colonized Cape cod
Speaker 1: help me understand today's story even better, or not Cape
Speaker 1: the Cape of Good Hope. It all bleeds into one another. France,
Speaker 1: France was running French Indo China. French Indo China was Vietnam,
Speaker 1: Cambodia and Laos. That's what you would know that as
Speaker 1: today it's Southeast All you need to know Southeast Asia jungle. No,
Speaker 1: it's not that big, Chris, it's not that big. It's
Speaker 1: it's I mean, it's it's not small, but it's not
Speaker 1: that big. But this was the colonial era prior to
Speaker 1: World War Two. France was running things down there in France.
Speaker 1: It depends on who you talk to. I guess I
Speaker 1: should say. When it comes to how they colonize this
Speaker 1: historically Historically, France was actually pretty stinking good about how
Speaker 1: they colonized places. When I say good, I mean as
Speaker 1: far as living conditions for the natives, Like we rented
Speaker 1: to this in the United States of America, where Britain
Speaker 1: wanted to colonize and did colonize this place, Britain was
Speaker 1: much more purposeful about it was. Okay Indians, Hi, guys. Uh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'd like to be friends. If not, that's fine whatever.
Speaker 1: Just guess what, we're building a huge ford here. If
Speaker 1: you cause any trouble, we'll bring in some troops and
Speaker 1: murder you all. Good to go? Sound good? Okay? They
Speaker 1: were very more what you think of colonizing. France didn't
Speaker 1: necessarily do that. There's a reason the French and Indian
Speaker 1: War was fought only it was France and the Indians
Speaker 1: fighting the Brits. France was often very, very very cordial
Speaker 1: with the tribes or with the native people's wherever they
Speaker 1: moved in. Hey, let's be pals, oh America, American Indians, Hi, guys,
Speaker 1: should we trade first? Should we be friends? Yeah? I
Speaker 1: guess we should. Let's do that. They did the same
Speaker 1: kind of thing everywhere they went. Understand, there's nothing new
Speaker 1: under the sun. These superpowers back in the day, especially Britain,
Speaker 1: in France and Spain, and those are the big ones.
Speaker 1: When they were bouncing all around the world, they had
Speaker 1: a colonizing playbook. Oh there's this new land. Disc Well
Speaker 1: what step one? Step one, we got to move in there,
Speaker 1: step two. They all only it was a different playbook
Speaker 1: for each nation, but they all kind of did it
Speaker 1: the same way. France when they moved into then French
Speaker 1: Indo China. We'll just call it Vietnam for the rest
Speaker 1: of the show, because that's about the last time I'm
Speaker 1: going to go through saying that word. When they moved
Speaker 1: into Vietnam, they really tried to do it the same
Speaker 1: way and with virtually the same results. They were, at
Speaker 1: least initially getting along pretty stinking well with the Vietnamese
Speaker 1: people who were there. And remember, I know what your
Speaker 1: college professors told you in America's evil, and colonization's evil,
Speaker 1: and everything's evil. And one it's just called conquering, Okay,
Speaker 1: it's the history of the world. Two, it's not always evil.
Speaker 1: It certainly can be, it's not always evil. France moved
Speaker 1: in there, and did they, you know, put their will
Speaker 1: on the people of Vietnam, no question about it. You're
Speaker 1: going to do the things I want you to do.
Speaker 1: You're going to do them when I want you to
Speaker 1: do them. However, if you're a tribal people, a native
Speaker 1: people of a nation that's being colonized, let's not sit
Speaker 1: here and pretend you don't get any bennies from being colonized.
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, you have, wow, roads, really nice infrastructure, schools.
Speaker 1: Oh wait a minute, what's that? Our average life expectancy
Speaker 1: basically doubled? Oh, I can't imagine. Oh, it turns out
Speaker 1: modern modern medicine actually is really important. Do you mean
Speaker 1: you have to brush your teeth? No way, I had
Speaker 1: no idea. And you get the protection of having your
Speaker 1: big daddy colonial power standing behind you. Yeah, he gets
Speaker 1: to take your lunch when he wants. But guess what,
Speaker 1: no one else does. No one else does until Japan
Speaker 1: comes along. Along comes World War two and Japan. I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna go into this. I've gone into it a
Speaker 1: thousand times because I love the subjects, and I'll go
Speaker 1: into it a thousand more. It just don't have time
Speaker 1: for it today. Japan bows up stomps into French Indo
Speaker 1: China and says sorry, France, get out, it's ours now,
Speaker 1: and France takes over. Japan takes over. Now. Understand when
Speaker 1: I say all colonization is not evil, I mean that.
Speaker 1: But some of idiots you really don't want to be
Speaker 1: colonized by Japan around World War two era. I'm not
Speaker 1: putting them down because you know I'm a fan, but man,
Speaker 1: they did not treat other people's any other people's well.
Speaker 1: Japan takes over French Indo China and they proceed to
Speaker 1: treat it like like an ATM machine of supplies because
Speaker 1: this is part of the Japan plan. Take all these lands,
Speaker 1: dig in, fortify them to make it too hard for
Speaker 1: the Allies to take them back, and then pillage them
Speaker 1: for all the supplies. What did that pillaging look like
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Speaker 1: Some crazy stories. This vaccine stuff, Chris, have you seen
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Speaker 1: vaccine have already been given out? Anyway, back to my story,
Speaker 1: Japan stomps into French, Indo, China, Vietnam during World War
Speaker 1: two for World War two, however, you want to look
Speaker 1: at that and says, okay, it's ours now, and they
Speaker 1: just absolutely pillage the place. And as the war goes
Speaker 1: on and on and Japan starts losing and Japan starts starving,
Speaker 1: the pillaging of Vietnam gets worse. It's considered pretty much
Speaker 1: a genocide that nobody knows about. We're talking a million
Speaker 1: Vietnamese people dead. A million. So if you're in Vietnam,
Speaker 1: you have been colonized and taken over by France. Many
Speaker 1: people were unhappy about it, and then you're promptly colonized
Speaker 1: and taken over by Japan and slaughtered. A million dead
Speaker 1: is just it's an incomprehensible number. We're talking starved to death,
Speaker 1: and you can imagine the other things the Japanese would
Speaker 1: do the Vietnamese people. I'm not gonna elaborate on that,
Speaker 1: but it was bad. The war finally ends, and remember,
Speaker 1: this is such an odd time. I should do just
Speaker 1: a show just on this time. When World War two ended,
Speaker 1: Germany's defeated, Frances Japan's defeated. And now you have the
Speaker 1: Soviet Union in France, well kind of France, but France
Speaker 1: wasn't in but I guess they're back in. You remember
Speaker 1: France lost, they weren't even in existence. And then you
Speaker 1: have Britain in America and all these countries they get
Speaker 1: together and they have to kind of put Humpty Dumpty
Speaker 1: back together again. And a lot of people criticized a
Speaker 1: lot of the moves that were made post World War Two,
Speaker 1: and I do too. That's totally fair, But in their defense,
Speaker 1: it's not like anyone had ever had to do that
Speaker 1: before the entire world was just in a fight. Now
Speaker 1: some countries don't even exist anymore. There are tens of
Speaker 1: millions of people dead, in human amounts of poverty and
Speaker 1: suffering and starvation. What do we do? So not every
Speaker 1: move that was made during that time was the right
Speaker 1: move or a great move. You're certainly not going to
Speaker 1: if you're one of the major powers and you're trying
Speaker 1: to put Humpty Dumpty back together again. You're not going
Speaker 1: to turn around and say, hey, Vietnam, you know what,
Speaker 1: We're going to dedicate like a week to just you.
Speaker 1: I want to hear about you. No, they just said,
Speaker 1: all right, France, that's yours again, go take care of it. Well,
Speaker 1: that sounds great on paper, or it looks great on paper.
Speaker 1: That sounds great, and you're meeting with French as you
Speaker 1: eat croissants or whatever they eat over there. But there
Speaker 1: are still people in Vietnam, Vietnamese people who were all,
Speaker 1: excuse me, excuse me, we were just pillaged by France
Speaker 1: and then just completely virtually wiped out by the Japanese,
Speaker 1: and now you're just handering it, handing it right back
Speaker 1: to the French. This does not go well in a
Speaker 1: man by the name of Ho Chi Minh, Right, you
Speaker 1: would actually like Ho Chi Minh if he wasn't a dirty,
Speaker 1: filthy communist, sadly he was. But if he wasn't, you
Speaker 1: wouldn't like him because he is the upstart, rebel, complete
Speaker 1: patriot who decides he wants everybody, France, Japan, America, everyone
Speaker 1: the heck out of his country. And he thinks they
Speaker 1: should govern themselves. You would root for that guy in
Speaker 1: any movie if he wasn't a dirty communist. But he
Speaker 1: was a dirty communist, so that we can't do anything
Speaker 1: about that. They fight a civil war, they fight a
Speaker 1: war against the French. That I mean, really the war
Speaker 1: against the French comes first. They kicked the French out.
Speaker 1: I've already done a show on that, before the Battle
Speaker 1: of the nbn FU. And then after that they have
Speaker 1: something called the nineteen fifty four Geneva Accords. What those
Speaker 1: doo is those split the country into what you would
Speaker 1: think of as the Vietnam War era country, North Vietnam
Speaker 1: South Vietnam. And it's pretty much agreed upon. We're in
Speaker 1: the middle of the Cold War, remember, but it's pretty
Speaker 1: much agreed upon. Okay, North Vietnam. That's Ho Chi Min
Speaker 1: in the commies. It's obviously backed heavily and openly by
Speaker 1: the Soviet Union in China. South Vietnam, they're backed by
Speaker 1: the United States of America and Britain and France, I
Speaker 1: should say, but we carried most of the load on that.
Speaker 1: But this is where we run into a big, big problem.
Speaker 1: Not only did the Soviet Union in China focus heavily
Speaker 1: on North Vietnam, giving them money and resources, infrastructure, and
Speaker 1: trying to make a good little communist paradise there. But
Speaker 1: the North Vietnamese were simply more organized, more committed, and
Speaker 1: frankly less corrupt. South Vietnam was always the problem with
Speaker 1: the Vietnam War. In Vietnam, as you know it, they
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, people argue a thousand reason and over it,
Speaker 1: weren't ready for capitalism, weren't ready to be free. Whatever
Speaker 1: the case. Maybe they were just terribly corrupt, and we
Speaker 1: were sometimes backing coups against the government we had just
Speaker 1: put in to get rid of the current corrupt guy.
Speaker 1: It was a disaster. We start pouring money into South
Speaker 1: Vietnam because we are desperate to have the South withstand
Speaker 1: the North. This is under Eisenhower, and we're propping up
Speaker 1: an absolute mess. We're don't talk about throwing good money
Speaker 1: after bad. We're propping a mess. They're just not able
Speaker 1: to do it. We start sending advisors in there and
Speaker 1: special forces groups in there. Remember we had Green Berets
Speaker 1: in Vietnam a long time before there was a Vietnam.
Speaker 1: And what are they doing there? They're bouncing around the country,
Speaker 1: trying to stabilize and prepare the various villages and tribes
Speaker 1: that are still litter the South Vietnamese countryside. They're going
Speaker 1: into a place and it look it's standard hearts and
Speaker 1: mind stuff that you can imagine. Hey, everybody guid around.
Speaker 1: This is an AK forty seven. This is how you
Speaker 1: use one. It points that way. Here's how you aim
Speaker 1: down the sites. And they're they're helping too, you know,
Speaker 1: like I said, it's hearts and minds. It's not just military.
Speaker 1: It's oh, here's a shot. Let me let me make
Speaker 1: sure we give you some vaccination, some medication. Maybe a
Speaker 1: bad day to bring up the vaccination, Chris, but let
Speaker 1: me make sure we give you this. I mean, make
Speaker 1: sure we drew you a water. Well, let's show you
Speaker 1: a better way to do this. Help it making friends
Speaker 1: than nineteen sixty five rolls along. I'm not going to
Speaker 1: go into the Gulf of Tonkin all that stuff. But
Speaker 1: eventually I can't say we declare war in Vietnam. Eventually
Speaker 1: there's a resolution allowing Lyndon Johnson to go to war
Speaker 1: in Vietnam. It's it's really not constitutional at all. I mean,
Speaker 1: we haven't constitutionally declared war since World War Two. Consider
Speaker 1: that not Korea, not Vietnam, and not Afghanistan, not anything.
Speaker 1: But that's like, I'm not going to go off on
Speaker 1: a tangent what Chris, Yes, Chris said, it's a police action.
Speaker 1: Indeed it is. Indeed it is just a brief police action.
Speaker 1: This police action ends up with US sending at least
Speaker 1: an initial surge of sixty thousand troops over there. And
Speaker 1: what we're doing. First of all, it's called Operation Rolling Thunder.
Speaker 1: Don't worry about remember that names. It is a cool name, Chris, Yes,
Speaker 1: it is a cool name. Quit all right, don't worry
Speaker 1: about remembering the name. Its means we're bombing them. We're
Speaker 1: aerial bombing them to dust. We're bombing the Ho Chi
Speaker 1: Minh Trail, which we knew about right away, to dust.
Speaker 1: And what was the Ho Chi Minh Trail. It wasn't
Speaker 1: a trail, first of all. It was a bunch of trails,
Speaker 1: some through Vietnam, some through Cambodia, and it was essentially
Speaker 1: the North North Vietnam funneling weapons, money, supplies in people
Speaker 1: to the South to back the viet Cong. The South
Speaker 1: Vietnamese guerrillas who were fighting against South Vietnam. They wanted
Speaker 1: it all to collapse. So we're bombing this trail, but
Speaker 1: it just keeps popping back up. They just keep rebuilding it.
Speaker 1: And North Vietnam they've had about enough of it. They've
Speaker 1: decided they're going to start getting a little more aggressive.
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Speaker 1: was horrified when I heard you wore flip flops. No
Speaker 1: normal person wants to see the feet of any man,
Speaker 1: let alone a six foot eight inch wookee marine. That's
Speaker 1: not nice. Lastly, every time I see you on TV,
Speaker 1: you never disappoint you On Ingram talking about people getting
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Speaker 1: made my night. We all know you were referring to
Speaker 1: the Air Force. Love your godlike face in the show.
Speaker 1: But no more flip flops. One thing, pal one thing.
Speaker 1: I will say this. It's not like I wear flip
Speaker 1: flops all the time. I have normal tennis shoes on
Speaker 1: right now. I don't wear flip flops all the time.
Speaker 1: I wear cowboy bootslots of the time, lots of time
Speaker 1: tennis shoes. But let me stress this, unless you live
Speaker 1: in the tropics like I do. Here in the absolute
Speaker 1: swamp of Houston. You don't understand what it's like to
Speaker 1: experience putting on flip flops for a weekend versus after
Speaker 1: wearing shoes all week long. Let those feet breathe and
Speaker 1: I understand. Look, feet are not pretty. I don't understand
Speaker 1: this weird foot fetish thing people have. I find it
Speaker 1: to be very odd. I'm not judging you. I just
Speaker 1: find it to be odd, but feed or gross. So
Speaker 1: you walk on them, they're gross and mine are twice
Speaker 1: as gross as those other feet, because, like you said,
Speaker 1: the Marine Corps just wrecked them. And I don't have
Speaker 1: a single buddy because I was in the infantry. I
Speaker 1: don't have a single buddy in the grunts who isn't
Speaker 1: in the same situation. You just now have callouses in
Speaker 1: different places. And they told us they actually made fun
Speaker 1: of us when we were in there. Like you think
Speaker 1: you think the human body is made to do what
Speaker 1: we're doing right now, it's not. It's not. You're wrecking
Speaker 1: yourself permanently. They thought it was funny, and frankly, it
Speaker 1: is kind of funny. But yeah, I'm wearing them anyway.
Speaker 1: I don't care. Back to my story, we start bombing
Speaker 1: the living heck out of North Vietnam. After the Gulf
Speaker 1: of Tonkin incident. It's called Rolling Thunder. We're bombing the
Speaker 1: Ho Chi Minh trail, bombing everything, and I should I
Speaker 1: should say this by now up to this point in time, Yes,
Speaker 1: we have troops in South Vietnam, advisors there, we're bombing
Speaker 1: North Vietnam. We're doing all these things. But North Vietnam
Speaker 1: for the most part, is avoiding confrontation with American troops
Speaker 1: because they're not sure quite yet, and neither are we
Speaker 1: how much this conflict is going to esk late. Let's
Speaker 1: just keep attacking South Vietnam. We'll keep it, keep attacking
Speaker 1: these South Vietnamese guys. Or these guys just don't don't
Speaker 1: touch the Americans really yet. Wow, the MBA decides, the
Speaker 1: MBA being the North Vietnamese army. That's the regular army,
Speaker 1: not the men in the black pajamas, not the Vietnam
Speaker 1: that's the regular army. A general up there start starts
Speaker 1: whispering in the ear of all the leadership and saying
Speaker 1: to them, look, I understand. We had to fight this
Speaker 1: guerrilla war against France. We had to fight this guerrilla
Speaker 1: war against against Japan, but we can fight some regular
Speaker 1: battles too. Let me go down there. We know we're
Speaker 1: going to be in a fight with the Americans. Let
Speaker 1: me go down there, take a bunch of troops down
Speaker 1: there and see what these Americans are made of. We
Speaker 1: don't know till we fight them. Let's go fight him,
Speaker 1: all right. He talks them into it. They agree. He
Speaker 1: goes stomping down into South Vietnam and kind of the
Speaker 1: central part of South Vietnam. And what he does is
Speaker 1: he attacks a special Forces base, a special Forces base.
Speaker 1: I know what you're thinking. The second I say special
Speaker 1: Forces base, you picture it's it's three hundred bloodthirsty green
Speaker 1: berets that could take on an entire nation by themselves. No,
Speaker 1: if it was three hundred green Berets, they probably could
Speaker 1: take on an entire nation by themselves. But no, a
Speaker 1: special Forces base would be a few a nominal amount
Speaker 1: of Green Berets, and then a bunch of indigenous troops
Speaker 1: that the Green Berets are training. So you'd have a
Speaker 1: bunch of South Vietnamese soldiers there. The green Berets are
Speaker 1: really the ones doing most of the training. That is
Speaker 1: a close, close fight. Eventually the North Vietnamese back off.
Speaker 1: But that is a close, close fight, which brings us
Speaker 1: to something we have to pause our story and talk
Speaker 1: about here. Because the North Vietnamese Army now sets up
Speaker 1: shop and some mountain fortress, some rainforest mountain fortress. They
Speaker 1: start a training center. They're moving in, they're getting I
Speaker 1: need to start feeling around a little bit, pause our
Speaker 1: story and go to the newest innovation that you don't
Speaker 1: even think of now, But that was something brand new
Speaker 1: in Vietnam as far as using it for combat. And
Speaker 1: that's something is called the helicopter. As you know, I
Speaker 1: despise helicopters. I just on a macro level. I take
Speaker 1: a step back and I say to myself that, in
Speaker 1: no way is a machine designed to fly. If one
Speaker 1: little thing goes wrong, you're all dead. What's that screw
Speaker 1: that holds the thing on? Chris, you talked about the
Speaker 1: Jesus nut. It's called one nut. It goes you're dead.
Speaker 1: It's just that. I mean a plane engine goes out,
Speaker 1: you can glider on, and helicopter you're not gliding anywhere.
Speaker 1: You go from flying to a stone anyway. Be that
Speaker 1: as it may. If you're going to fight a war
Speaker 1: in Vietnam, you need to have something different because it's
Speaker 1: a different kind of battle. There's mountains, jungles, it's it's
Speaker 1: a different kind of terrain. The Americans, to our credit,
Speaker 1: learn how to use helicopters big time as the new
Speaker 1: mobile force. It's the new horse, essentially what the horse
Speaker 1: always was. That's what helicopters became. And I know you
Speaker 1: think of halos and I do too. A second, I
Speaker 1: say helicopter in Vietnam. You know what you picture that
Speaker 1: six person halo that carries guys in and out with
Speaker 1: the machine gunner on the side. Just know, there were
Speaker 1: a bunch of different kinds of helicopters. There were big
Speaker 1: ones that could carry twenty thousand pounds. There were big
Speaker 1: troop carriers. There were the halo ones you're talking about.
Speaker 1: There were the gun ships that had all kinds of
Speaker 1: guns on them and things like that, and those saved
Speaker 1: a lot of lives over there. There were a bunch
Speaker 1: of different kinds either way. The Americans, because of this
Speaker 1: attack on the Special Forces base, they now know there
Speaker 1: are va North Vietnamese regular Army troops in this particular area.
Speaker 1: They're not exactly sure where in this area. But they
Speaker 1: know they're in this area, and they want to know, well,
Speaker 1: how many of them are they? So you go, you
Speaker 1: go seeking out intelligence, You find local sources, you do
Speaker 1: the various things you to find out intelligence. And what
Speaker 1: is the word they get back? They keep getting the
Speaker 1: word there's about oh, there's about two hundred of them
Speaker 1: up there. Oh okay, well, let's not take any chances.
Speaker 1: We're Americans. It's time to take the fight to them.
Speaker 1: There's two hundred of them. We're way better anyway than
Speaker 1: these dirtball Vietnamese. Let's gather up four hundred troops. Let's
Speaker 1: swoop in there, patrol around on a search and destroy mission.
Speaker 1: See if we can't find those two hundred and send
Speaker 1: them packing to hell. That was the plan. Lieutenant Colonel
Speaker 1: how More takes his four hundred men. They all hop
Speaker 1: on helicopters and they take off towards this site. But
Speaker 1: I need to pause because I misspoke. They didn't all
Speaker 1: hop on helicopters. They only had so many helicopters. You
Speaker 1: could only land forty eight men at a time at
Speaker 1: this little clearing in the jungle at the base of
Speaker 1: this mountain fortress. Forty eight men at a time. After
Speaker 1: those forty eight men land, the heloes must take off,
Speaker 1: fly thirteen minutes back to pick up forty eight more,
Speaker 1: and then fly thirteen minutes back to drop them off.
Speaker 1: That means when you land, you are by yourself at
Speaker 1: the foot of a mountain fortress for twenty six minutes.
Speaker 1: Do you have any idea how long twenty six minutes
Speaker 1: is when you're getting shot at? Now, the Americans were
Speaker 1: going to try to do this right. They had artillery
Speaker 1: posted up about five miles away. They bomb the living
Speaker 1: smitherines out of this site. While I should say they
Speaker 1: artillery the site where they're going to land to death
Speaker 1: to make sure. Look, if there's someone surrounding it, I
Speaker 1: don't know, but there's no one in it anymore, I
Speaker 1: promise you that much. And they land forty eight guys there,
Speaker 1: and then they began shuttling back and forth and back
Speaker 1: and forth and back and forth. Now what happens is
Speaker 1: they run into a North Vietnamese guy and he has
Speaker 1: something very interesting to say about what's going on in
Speaker 1: this particular area, and how more he hates he gets
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Speaker 1: Laura Ingram last night and absolutely killed at Chris as
Speaker 1: I said, what what? I was probably the best guest ever.
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Speaker 1: I was. Who knows, all right? Lieutenant Colonel Howe Moore,
Speaker 1: He's shuttling his troops back and forth trying to land
Speaker 1: at the base of this mountain fortress in a clearing
Speaker 1: in Vietnam. He thinks there are two hundred enemy there.
Speaker 1: They run into a North Vietnamese dude. The North Vietnamese
Speaker 1: dude has something interesting to say. In case you're wondering
Speaker 1: the North Vietnamese do the way they ran into him.
Speaker 1: That guy was a defector. He had had enough and
Speaker 1: he's like, hey, America, you look like you have better food.
Speaker 1: I'm hungry. He comes in and they start interrogating him, Hey,
Speaker 1: what's up there? Where are we were as the enemy?
Speaker 1: What's going on? And they say to him, so we
Speaker 1: understand there are two hundred men here, and then guys, oh, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: you actually have sixteen hundred men surrounding you. You've landed
Speaker 1: in the middle of essentially a North Vietnamese army training center.
Speaker 1: Here you are, you and your four hundred dudes. You're
Speaker 1: surrounded by mass amounts of North Vietnamese. And the fighting
Speaker 1: breaks out and it is severe. The shooting is coming
Speaker 1: from the thick jungle. It's absolutely, I mean, World War
Speaker 1: two levels of battle going on. The Americans are shooting back,
Speaker 1: people are dying on all sides. They're calling in artillery
Speaker 1: on the enemy. They're sending out patrols to find out
Speaker 1: exactly where the enemy is and to beat them back.
Speaker 1: One platoon gets any Just consider that thirty guys. That's
Speaker 1: not an exact number, but patuns about thirty guys. I
Speaker 1: have to remember a lot of times you can get
Speaker 1: caught saying these things you think everybody understands, and they
Speaker 1: do not. About thirty dudes, they break off and they
Speaker 1: get hut off from the rest of the force, and
Speaker 1: they try to fight their way back to the rest
Speaker 1: of the force, and they can't. There are too many
Speaker 1: North Vietnamese in between them and the rest of the force.
Speaker 1: These guys end up having to do like thirty hours
Speaker 1: out there by themselves fighting North Vietnamese as they're surrounded
Speaker 1: and their platoon commander gets killed and I forget the number.
Speaker 1: I think the next two or three guys is getting
Speaker 1: in charge get killed. Ends up being some sergeants, some
Speaker 1: stud by the name of Ernie Savage has to take
Speaker 1: over the platoon to keep his guys alive, lost like
Speaker 1: a third of the patoon is. It really is an
Speaker 1: incredible story. You know who did something good on that.
Speaker 1: There's a movie on this battle in case you're running.
Speaker 1: This battle is called the Battle of Aya Drang or
Speaker 1: Al Drang i A and then d r A n G.
Speaker 1: There's a great movie about this, and Mel Gibson movie
Speaker 1: called We Were Soldiers. If you've never seen it, and
Speaker 1: actually they nailed it pretty pretty well. They you can
Speaker 1: tell they dog and tried to make it accurate. It's
Speaker 1: pretty accurate anyway. Lieutenant Colonel how More knows his platoon
Speaker 1: out there is cut off. He tries to send the
Speaker 1: company out there to save them. Well, they get pinned
Speaker 1: down two and then the first night comes and it's nighttime.
Speaker 1: Imagine the terror. Imagine the fear you feel when you
Speaker 1: are miles and miles and miles and miles and miles
Speaker 1: away from the next American base. You are outnumbered, you
Speaker 1: are surrounded, you are in the jungle, and you have
Speaker 1: people trying to murder you all night long. And all
Speaker 1: night long, they could hear the North Vietnamese surrounding their
Speaker 1: position in a three hundred and sixty degree so around
Speaker 1: they can hear them, and they feel the North Vietnamese
Speaker 1: probing looking for weak spots in the line as they
Speaker 1: have dug in all around, trying to find a way
Speaker 1: to break through. Lieutenant Colonel how More, to his credit,
Speaker 1: does something genius. He has all these heavy machine guns,
Speaker 1: he's m sixty machine guns and they're dug in and
Speaker 1: he tells them on the first night, no shooting you're
Speaker 1: not allowed to shoot. Why Because he knows he's outnumbered
Speaker 1: and surrounded, and he knows the enemy is probing for
Speaker 1: the weak spots. And if the enemy's probing a spot
Speaker 1: and they don't get any heavy machine gun fire, they
Speaker 1: may consider that to be a weak spot. Just keep
Speaker 1: that in mind. We'll come back to that in just
Speaker 1: a second. It's a long first night. Then the next day,
Speaker 1: as dawn breaks, boom, the all out assault comes. They
Speaker 1: start trying to swarm and overrun the Americans because they're communists.
Speaker 1: There's not a huge amount of value placed on human life.
Speaker 1: We run into this a lot when we were fighting
Speaker 1: the Vietnamese. They would just throw themselves at you, blow
Speaker 1: themselves up. There's just not a great deal value placed
Speaker 1: on human in life. One guy, Remember, like I said,
Speaker 1: they didn't know where the machine guns work is how
Speaker 1: Moore had told him. Everybody stop, one guy. You want
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Speaker 1: One machine gunner in this company he made the North
Speaker 1: Vietnamese feel his wrath the next day. By the time
Speaker 1: his M sixty ran out of AMO, he had over
Speaker 1: one hundred dead NBA in front of his position. And
Speaker 1: when they he ran out of AMMO, he pulled out
Speaker 1: his forty five and started shooting him. I will finish
Speaker 1: this battle of Aya Drange next and then it's time
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Speaker 1: is all the press and all the extra child do
Speaker 1: makes this worse. You think, yes, when people want to protest,
Speaker 1: I shouldn't do it in front of the police. Yeah,
Speaker 1: courthouse like that. You get what the saying. I want
Speaker 1: you to be careful. I want you to be careful,
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Speaker 1: I'm scared? No, no, don't don't look like I'm scared. Exactly.
Speaker 1: Y'all need to get a fut of here. With all
Speaker 1: that swisting up the well, that was that was CNN
Speaker 1: getting schooled at the protest last night. I realized a
Speaker 1: little of that was blur. It was we had to
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Speaker 1: in just a few moments. Let's finish the Battle of
Speaker 1: Aya Drain first. All right, it's an all out of
Speaker 1: salt the next day. But the Americans are better, There's
Speaker 1: no question about that. You can be very, very proud
Speaker 1: of this battle. The Americans are better. The Americans are absurdly,
Speaker 1: absurdly brave. They're better shots, they're better trained, they're dug in,
Speaker 1: they are rocking and rolling. We have several instances of
Speaker 1: hand to hand combat at this time. One American died
Speaker 1: quite literally with his hands around the throat of a
Speaker 1: North Vietnamese guy who he just killed. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: that kind of fighting we're dealing with here. This is
Speaker 1: one of the most fierce battles in the history of
Speaker 1: the United States of America. That's what we're dealing with.
Speaker 1: Four hundred Americans versus sixteen hundred North Vietnamese. But numbers
Speaker 1: don't lie. Napoleon has this incredible quote. I love it.
Speaker 1: I need to start using it more on the show.
Speaker 1: The quote goes, quantity has a quality all its own.
Speaker 1: You can only do so much. Right, you can only
Speaker 1: do so much. We start getting overrun. How more is
Speaker 1: forced to get on the radio and say words that
Speaker 1: are now famous. You're already saying them if you know
Speaker 1: this battle. If not, you will remember them. Now. The
Speaker 1: words are broken arrow. What does broken arrow mean? It
Speaker 1: is a code word. It is a word you are
Speaker 1: only allowed as a commander. You are only allowed to
Speaker 1: use it in the most dire of circumstances, and you
Speaker 1: only want to use it in the most dire of circumstances.
Speaker 1: Broken arrow means this, we are in danger of being
Speaker 1: overrun and annihilated. It means an American unit is in
Speaker 1: danger of being overrun and annihilated. It means any single
Speaker 1: air mission that is going on, even remotely close to you,
Speaker 1: is halted and that air mission is rerouted towards you
Speaker 1: to bow the enemy out of your exit, out of
Speaker 1: your position. So, okay, now we're on a bombing run
Speaker 1: heading north to hanois what broken air on this area? Bit,
Speaker 1: Hang a left, bob, We're hiding that way. Everybody. It's
Speaker 1: all hands on deck. Get there now. We're about to
Speaker 1: lose everything. Now that sounds cool, right, and it is
Speaker 1: really cool. It's cool that we care enough about our
Speaker 1: troops to do stuff like that, and and it's cool
Speaker 1: that we have the kind of firepower to bring that
Speaker 1: to bear and all that's cool. But why as a
Speaker 1: commander on the ground, don't you want to use it? WHOA,
Speaker 1: Remember you're in danger of being overrun. I want you
Speaker 1: to take yourself right now and put yourself in a
Speaker 1: hot air balloon a thousand feet above the ground. Can
Speaker 1: you do that? You're you're in a hot air balloon.
Speaker 1: You're a thousand feet above the ground. And on the left,
Speaker 1: you're looking down straight down. On the left at you
Speaker 1: have people who are close to you, wife, kids, husband, parents, friends.
Speaker 1: On the right, you have a bunch of monsters from
Speaker 1: Lord of the Rings trying to murder the people who
Speaker 1: are close to you. You have bombs in your hands,
Speaker 1: little hand bombs. You're gonna try to bomb the monsters,
Speaker 1: right What if the monsters are already right by your family?
Speaker 1: Do you think you're going to be in danger of
Speaker 1: maybe dropping one in the wrong place, hurting somebody you love.
Speaker 1: The reason you don't want to call a broken arrow
Speaker 1: is it means you're dropping air power really really really
Speaker 1: close to your own troops. And contrary to what people believe,
Speaker 1: it's not an exact science. When you're flying at six
Speaker 1: hundred miles an hour and dropping a thousand pound whatever
Speaker 1: out of the middle of the sky, it's not exact
Speaker 1: where that thing goes, and it's not exact where everyone is. Yes,
Speaker 1: you throw smoke out at your perimeter and stuff like that,
Speaker 1: but wind shifts everything. Things change, The battle shifts by
Speaker 1: the time the bombs drop. Long story short, Yes, the
Speaker 1: airplanes come in and they completely save this unit that
Speaker 1: we do bomb the North Vietnamese to smitherines and back
Speaker 1: them off. That's the good news. The bad news is
Speaker 1: a lot of what we're dropping is napalm. Napalm is
Speaker 1: a fancy way of saying burning people to death. It
Speaker 1: is a flammable jelly. It sticks to you like like tar,
Speaker 1: and it just burns until it's done burning. And we
Speaker 1: napalm our own guys, not a ton of them, but
Speaker 1: enough of them. And I'll spare you the details on
Speaker 1: the napalming. Like I said, if you watched that movie
Speaker 1: we were Soldiers, you know what I'm talking about about
Speaker 1: the details of the napalming. I will say this, what
Speaker 1: you saw happen to those guys. It was accurate. That's
Speaker 1: really what happened during the battle. It's unspeakably bad. Reinforcements
Speaker 1: finally arrive. How More has been ordered out by his commander.
Speaker 1: How More, to his credit, refuses to leave, disobeys a
Speaker 1: direct order, will not leave until every single one of
Speaker 1: his men have left the battlefield. How More decides he
Speaker 1: must be the last one off the field of battle.
Speaker 1: We finally see victory. How More, last one on a
Speaker 1: Hilo flies out with a great American victory. This is
Speaker 1: such an important battle in history because this is the
Speaker 1: point in time when Vietnam really became Vietnam. But it's
Speaker 1: such an important battle for the Vietnam War because of this.
Speaker 1: This was a gigantic feel out battle. We wanted to
Speaker 1: feel out the North Vietnamese and they wanted to feel
Speaker 1: out us. What did the North Vietnamese discover about themselves
Speaker 1: and about us during the course of this battle. They
Speaker 1: discovered they don't want to engage Americans in direct combat.
Speaker 1: It's just not a battle they're going to be able
Speaker 1: to win. I saw yesterday there was discussions of what
Speaker 1: should be done with these corporations that are banding together
Speaker 1: to oppose any GOP efforts at pushing voter ID and
Speaker 1: things like that. And all of a sudden you have
Speaker 1: people on the right who are talking about taking away
Speaker 1: corporate tax breaks for this company and things like that,
Speaker 1: and of course half the right is all I don't
Speaker 1: I'm not really comfortable with that. I don't think we
Speaker 1: should do that, hear me out here. In any battle,
Speaker 1: in any war, and we are in an ideological war
Speaker 1: for the future of this country. I don't care how
Speaker 1: you want to look at it. If you look at
Speaker 1: it any other way, you're wrong. In any war, you
Speaker 1: must absolutely must get to a place where the enemy
Speaker 1: considers an action and weighs the cost of that action.
Speaker 1: After this battle, after four hundred Americans fought off sixteen
Speaker 1: hundred North Vietnamese, any time there was a proposal to
Speaker 1: do an official North Vietnamese Army campaign against an American unit,
Speaker 1: the cost had to be weighed. I would really love
Speaker 1: to attack Base X over here with my thousand men.
Speaker 1: Oh man. If we do that, though, what what are
Speaker 1: they going to be able to do back to us?
Speaker 1: Are we even going to be able to beat them?
Speaker 1: I mean, we remember what happened at the Battle of Idran,
Speaker 1: we send sixteen hundred men, and then we've lost the right.
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