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Speaker 1: All right, welcome in late Cake once again on the air.

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Speaker 1: It is Sunday night.

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Speaker 2: It is July fifth, the year of our Lord, twenty twenty. Yes,

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Speaker 2: we are here, friends, even on a vacation weekend, to

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Speaker 2: bring you what you want, which is just a little

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Speaker 2: bit more college football than you had when you woke

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Speaker 2: up this morning. We are going to talk about underrated

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Speaker 2: teams coast to coast. I can't tell you how many

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Speaker 2: times we have been inundated just over the past week.

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Speaker 1: It's like a coordinated effort.

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Speaker 2: You guys want to talk about underrated teams, Well, some

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Speaker 2: of you want to talk under and overrated. We're gonna

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Speaker 2: go down the underrated road tonight. And I've got I

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Speaker 2: got somebody on the West Coast. I got two West

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Speaker 2: Coast teams. I got a team in the Midwest. Actually,

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Speaker 2: we're going West Coast and Midwest. And you know we're

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Speaker 2: gonna talk a lot of sec tonight because tonight we

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Speaker 2: continue as we started Thursday, are Mood Tracker series, and

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Speaker 2: we're going to go to a lot of other conferences

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Speaker 2: over the next couple of weeks. We just started closest

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Speaker 2: to Home down here, and we as you saw the

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Speaker 2: other night, all we are going to do is we're

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Speaker 2: going to span basically the entire division there in the

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Speaker 2: SEC East, and we're just taking the temperature, not of

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Speaker 2: the fringe ten percent, not of the pessimistic fringe ten percent,

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Speaker 2: but the eighty percent normally silent eighty percent. And it

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Speaker 2: would normally only get if you were hyper localized to

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Speaker 2: that fan base. So we don't make you drive to Columbia,

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Speaker 2: or drive to Athens, or drive to Knoxville. We're going

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Speaker 2: to let you know what those fan bases are thinking

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Speaker 2: right now. You can do with that information what you

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Speaker 2: want to. And also I've noticed I continued to notice

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Speaker 2: this a little bit anytime someone's previewing Alabama, anytime someone's

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Speaker 2: talking about Bama's chances of competing for national championship this year,

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Speaker 2: the detractors, people who don't think Bama can get it done,

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Speaker 2: they go to defense, And there's a lot of merit

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Speaker 2: last year.

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Speaker 1: So we're going to discuss that a little bit.

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Speaker 2: And I've also got a really good Q and A

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Speaker 2: that's taken us right down to South Florida. So let's

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Speaker 2: get us started tonight, and let's started with underrated teams.

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Speaker 2: So I had an email like ten of them actually

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Speaker 2: just in the last forty eight hours.

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Speaker 1: Some wanted this to be on the next Late.

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Speaker 2: Kick Extra podcast, but I said, you know what, enough

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Speaker 2: of you have emailed me about this. Let's just kick

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Speaker 2: off the Sunday night show with this underrated teams. I

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Speaker 2: want to start, and I want to tell you our

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Speaker 2: five ninety five rule, because it has a lot to

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Speaker 2: do with preseason predictions, and it has a lot to

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Speaker 2: do with how people formulate their thoughts, just your overall

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Speaker 2: feelings on a season. It happens around this time of year.

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Speaker 2: Even in a COVID nineteen year, it still happens this

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Speaker 2: time of year. So think about how it works. You

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Speaker 2: guys have been through this drill, just like I have.

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Speaker 2: You end Springball. In this case, we didn't have spring Ball,

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Speaker 2: next thing is preview magazine season, so you get preview magazines.

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Speaker 2: And then the next thing is media day season, and

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Speaker 2: and then camp starts. But really, nothing's happened, No snap

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Speaker 2: those two bookends. Camp opens on the back end and

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Speaker 2: much feels like it happens because so many different people

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Speaker 2: that ever drives up. But the five ninety five rule

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Speaker 2: is this, This is largely an aggregation business, whether you

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Speaker 2: realize it or not. Not just aggregation in terms of

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Speaker 2: five ninety five rule that I have spoken about for

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Speaker 2: people get married to predictions, and they get married to predictions,

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Speaker 1: Not always.

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Speaker 2: The five ninety five rule is really only about five

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Speaker 2: percent of people in this industry have original thought. Only

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Speaker 2: about five percent of people in this industry, like we

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Speaker 2: And you're none the wiser to what the difference is,

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Speaker 2: it just looks like, oh, well, this team's a preseason

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Speaker 2: So let's go underrated teams at least that I've identified

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Speaker 2: this year for myself. Now, this is what I wanted

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Speaker 2: where I fall on the Washington Husky. I was listening

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Speaker 2: But he's not new to the program. He's been there

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Speaker 2: quite a while. They transitioned, at least defensively. They chose

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Speaker 1: So I love Jimmy Lake.

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Speaker 1: That's a top ten unit.

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Speaker 1: Iowa State is plus.

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Speaker 2: I like to call people plus neutral or minus plus

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Speaker 2: in these three categories head coach, quarterback, and defense.

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Speaker 1: They're plus in all three of those categories.

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Speaker 2: And when you're parked in a conference as they are

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Speaker 2: a fair amount of transitioning happening, namely at the quarterback position.

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Speaker 2: With Oklahoma, everyone has confidence in or Spencer Rattler, but

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Speaker 2: there is transition going on. Nonetheless, it at least makes

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Speaker 1: And here's what else is fun to think about.

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Speaker 2: They're kind of off everyone's radar for the moment, whereas

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Speaker 2: they had a down year.

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Speaker 1: Now, think previous to Matt Campbell's.

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Speaker 2: They went seven and six last year, an above five

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Speaker 2: And I want you to also remember this now, the

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Speaker 1: Think about what they could do.

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Speaker 2: And all you got to do is crack open a

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Speaker 1: They got him at home.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how much you buy into those scheduling dynamics,

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about contending.

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Speaker 2: For the Big twelve Championship, to be clear, that's what

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Speaker 2: I'm talking about them being a contender for. I don't

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Speaker 2: Golden Bears. Let's go out to Berkeley twenty nineteen. From

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Speaker 2: If you were paying attention a hardcore you saw eight

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Speaker 1: What is that good for? What are they a fringe

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Speaker 2: And then you're zooming closer and again, those of you

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Speaker 1: But they've got the core of that program.

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Speaker 2: Built right, Like they've got a lot of good people

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Speaker 2: They've added a lot of elements, for instance, defensively that

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Speaker 1: Have before Justin Wilcox got there.

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Speaker 2: I've always been partial to just the overall style of

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Speaker 2: You talk about Washington not getting a whole lot of love. Well,

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Speaker 2: How many people nationally are talking about Cal. So I'm

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Speaker 1: It's an experience year. This year.

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Speaker 2: Experience probably matters more than ever. I'm not one that's

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Speaker 1: I'm from Georgia.

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Speaker 2: I know you guys, a couple of you I've spoken

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Speaker 2: There's one road over here, and that's the public road.

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you we've got a roster about as loaded

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Speaker 2: very questionable and by we we mean our head coach.

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Speaker 2: We've made some very questionable decisions in some very key

437
00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:12,840
Speaker 2: moments in games. We have had control the last two

438
00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:15,760
Speaker 2: times we played that team in Tuscaloosa, and we let

439
00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:18,560
Speaker 2: it get away. Because that's what we think, we Georgia fans.

440
00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:20,520
Speaker 2: We think we let it get away. We think we

441
00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:23,640
Speaker 2: offered those games up on silver platters. They didn't take

442
00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,919
Speaker 2: it if we didn't give it to them. So, having

443
00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,520
Speaker 2: said all that, it's good that we made this move

444
00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:32,919
Speaker 2: with Todd Monkin coming in, it's good. But is this

445
00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,359
Speaker 2: guy's Kirby Smart going to fully commit to that or

446
00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:37,639
Speaker 2: are we going to sit here and watch us have

447
00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:40,840
Speaker 2: the best defense in America this year, and see it

448
00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:44,119
Speaker 2: wasted because we can't open it up enough offensively and

449
00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:47,880
Speaker 2: we can't modernize enough offensively. Listen, recruiting classes are great,

450
00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:51,119
Speaker 2: but that's how you talk when you're building towards something.

451
00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:54,160
Speaker 2: We should be there, we should be at the something now.

452
00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:57,800
Speaker 2: So those are very first world problems. But that's what

453
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Speaker 2: Georgia fans talk about amongst themselves. Again, they think that

454
00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:03,320
Speaker 2: they've got it all ahead of them. Both camps, the

455
00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:04,960
Speaker 2: public and the private road think that they have it

456
00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:07,960
Speaker 2: all ahead of them. But when they're private, don't think

457
00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,000
Speaker 2: for a second. You Georgia fans know what I'm talking about.

458
00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,439
Speaker 2: Don't think for a second that they don't look around

459
00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:15,840
Speaker 2: and say, Hello, let's do it, let's win it, let's go,

460
00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:21,240
Speaker 2: let's get it done. As for Tennessee, different program right now, Okay,

461
00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:25,119
Speaker 2: different stratosphere, so the expectations a little bit lower. Long term,

462
00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:27,040
Speaker 2: they're the same, but they're a little bit lower. I

463
00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:30,960
Speaker 2: have forever respect for the Tennessee fan base for showing

464
00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,800
Speaker 2: patients with the last oh it feels like ten failed

465
00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:37,200
Speaker 2: coaching experiments. Don't think that this one the Jeremy Prude experiment.

466
00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:39,080
Speaker 2: I think it'll be long term, don't think it'll be

467
00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:42,960
Speaker 2: a failed experiment. So the fan base, the collective mood

468
00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,879
Speaker 2: tracker for the eighty percent, the majority, the silent majority

469
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Speaker 2: of Tennessee fans is they need a taste this year.

470
00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:53,040
Speaker 2: They at least need a really, really nice appetizer. Now,

471
00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:56,800
Speaker 2: they would love if their meal arrived early, but they

472
00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:58,720
Speaker 2: don't want to look at the menu anymore. They got

473
00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:01,480
Speaker 2: to get at least an appetizer, and that means, of course,

474
00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:06,880
Speaker 2: beating one of Oklahoma, Florida, Alabama, or Georgia. They've got

475
00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,640
Speaker 2: to be competitive. There can't be any forty nine to

476
00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:13,600
Speaker 2: ten setbacks. Now, certainly we're looking past the idea of

477
00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:16,920
Speaker 2: another Georgia state tobacle, like we think we've.

478
00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,520
Speaker 1: Got that rectified. We think we've got it figured out. Now.

479
00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:21,800
Speaker 2: We got to run with the big boys, and we

480
00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,120
Speaker 2: got to clip one of the big boys. We thought

481
00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:26,439
Speaker 2: it happened in our first year with Jeremy Pruitt. We

482
00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:28,919
Speaker 2: thought it happened when we went to Auburn. But that

483
00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:30,440
Speaker 2: turned out to be a little bit of a mirage.

484
00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:32,080
Speaker 2: Good Win, but it turned out to be a little

485
00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:33,879
Speaker 2: bit of a mirage. Made us think that maybe we

486
00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,400
Speaker 2: were a little bit closer than we thought we were.

487
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Speaker 2: We're not demanding the entire entree this year, but we

488
00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:43,119
Speaker 2: just need, you know, bring us the Wisconsin cheese bites,

489
00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:46,760
Speaker 2: bring us the potato wedges.

490
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Speaker 1: Just give us something to eat.

491
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Speaker 2: This year, and then this time next year, then we'll

492
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Speaker 2: be asking where the steak is.

493
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Speaker 1: Just got to have a taste. If you're Tennessee.

494
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Speaker 2: South Carolina, I would argue just went down the wrong

495
00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:05,680
Speaker 2: another step South Carolina. Right now, one of my favorite

496
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:09,119
Speaker 2: Rod Stewart songs is just reason to believe, love the

497
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:12,320
Speaker 2: live version of it. Still, I look to find a

498
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:15,280
Speaker 2: reason to believe. That's what they want. They want to

499
00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 2: buy in. They don't want to be calling from muss

500
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:21,119
Speaker 2: Champ's head. They don't want another coaching change. There No

501
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,359
Speaker 2: one wants to hit the reset button and start over.

502
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,680
Speaker 2: But yet, if you leave them no choice, you'll leave

503
00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:30,480
Speaker 2: them no choice. So the reason to believe is, hopefully

504
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:32,879
Speaker 2: for South Carolina fans sake, going to come in the

505
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:37,560
Speaker 2: form of Mike Bobo Mary to Ryan Halensky at Mary

506
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:41,120
Speaker 2: to a new strength and conditioning plan that keeps players

507
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 2: on the field. Therefore, we get to do more with

508
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,560
Speaker 2: those players and we push the right buttons and put

509
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:49,440
Speaker 2: those players in the right position, and offensively, we come

510
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,679
Speaker 2: out of this wasteland that we've been in and we

511
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 2: actually look like something.

512
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,640
Speaker 1: South Carolina football looks like.

513
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Speaker 2: Something when people describe us, whether they be in soccer Middo,

514
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,399
Speaker 2: California or all been in New York. Finally we have

515
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,920
Speaker 2: an identity about ourselves. People actually have something that they

516
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,240
Speaker 2: have to have a little concern about Tuesday and Wednesday

517
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 2: Thursday when they prepare for us that hasn't been South Carolina.

518
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 2: So the reason to believe that's what they got to have.

519
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,639
Speaker 2: Just give them a reason to believe. You don't have

520
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,600
Speaker 2: to go ten and two, but you can't go four

521
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:22,560
Speaker 2: and eight. You can't be missing a bowl game.

522
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:22,920
Speaker 1: Again.

523
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:25,400
Speaker 2: I don't know what the magic number is this year,

524
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:30,320
Speaker 2: especially considering all the external ramifications with COVID and decreased

525
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:33,359
Speaker 2: football revenue. But if it were a normal year, I

526
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,119
Speaker 2: got to think got to be eight and four or better.

527
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,640
Speaker 2: And I've got some Carolina folks that say it has

528
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 2: to be nine wins. I don't know that I agree

529
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,960
Speaker 2: with that, but it certainly can't be miss a bowl game,

530
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,640
Speaker 2: and it doubly certainly can't be beat Georgia and still

531
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Speaker 2: miss a bowl game. How you know what, one hundred

532
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,359
Speaker 2: years from now, I'll still be trying to figure out

533
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 2: how they figured out a way to go into Athens,

534
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:57,120
Speaker 2: Georgia and beat Georgia and still miss a bowl game.

535
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Speaker 1: Georgia is supposed to be the reason that you do

536
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:04,880
Speaker 1: miss a bowl game. Oh man, that's rough. All right,

537
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 1: let's move on.

538
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:12,639
Speaker 2: Criticism comes in many different ways, and criticism all depends

539
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:12,960
Speaker 2: on what.

540
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 1: Standard you hold a program to.

541
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Speaker 2: So, if, for instance, the Citadel went to the College

542
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 2: Football Playoff and lost, I don't think anyone would shake

543
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:22,879
Speaker 2: a stick at that. I think it would be a

544
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 2: national holiday forever. But we're not talking about the Citadel

545
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:30,720
Speaker 2: in this segment. We're talking about Alabama. Alabama's defense last

546
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,680
Speaker 2: year was a shell of what it normally is. There

547
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 2: were several reasons for that. I want to take you

548
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 2: back just a little anecdotal example here, but I want

549
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:40,880
Speaker 2: to take you back as a lot of other people

550
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,959
Speaker 2: are concerned about Alabama's defense. A lot of people, especially

551
00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 2: Alabama fans, questioning Pete Golding last year, that's the defensive

552
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:52,200
Speaker 2: coordinator there, and questioning not if but when he'll be fired.

553
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 2: And then Nick Saban retained him, and it raised my eyebrow.

554
00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 2: I thought we probably were going to see him move too.

555
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 2: So I was with you, guys, I don't call for

556
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,160
Speaker 2: people's jobs. I told you that a couple of shows ago.

557
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 2: But I thought that we were going to see a

558
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 2: move there and we didn't. And it, trust me, it

559
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 2: wasn't because Saban didn't have options. He's the head coach

560
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 2: at Alabama. They always have options there. But he didn't

561
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 2: make a move. So the anecdote with Saban that I'm

562
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 2: talking about is when we interviewed him. When I talked

563
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 2: to him a little over a month month and a

564
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:23,000
Speaker 2: half ago, I asked him about a couple of things

565
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,120
Speaker 2: that at the time had the fan base at Alabama

566
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:26,960
Speaker 2: pretty concerned.

567
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Speaker 1: One was recruiting. That was like, it feels like a

568
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 1: lifetime ago.

569
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Speaker 2: That was when that was a time when Alabama was

570
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:34,879
Speaker 2: ranked in the forties in recruiting.

571
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 1: My oh my, what a few weeks changes. Huh.

572
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 2: But I'm not talking about recruiting tonight. The second thing

573
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Speaker 2: that I asked him about was Pete Golding. I pretty

574
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,200
Speaker 2: bluntly said, hey, a lot of people blamed Pete Golding.

575
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:47,879
Speaker 2: Last year, a lot of people when they looked at

576
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,439
Speaker 2: the lack of defensive production, they really questioned Pete Golding

577
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,120
Speaker 2: and whether you had the pieces in place.

578
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:53,439
Speaker 1: That you needed.

579
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Speaker 2: So he did the same thing with both of these questions,

580
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 2: the things that had a lot of people concerned recruiting

581
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 2: and Pete Golding he kind of met with a collective

582
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:05,400
Speaker 2: shrug of the shoulders. Didn't phaze him. He wasn't being sarcastic.

583
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 2: It really wasn't a big deal to him. He had

584
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 2: all the confidence in the world and then some that

585
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,159
Speaker 2: recruiting was going to be every bit the same this

586
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,200
Speaker 2: year as it normally is. And I think since then

587
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,920
Speaker 2: we've seen things quickly fall into form and fall into

588
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 2: place for them.

589
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:22,120
Speaker 1: But on the Golden Front, his message and what.

590
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 2: He told me and what I've gathered internally there is

591
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 2: they don't think it's a defensive coordinator problem at all.

592
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,360
Speaker 2: They didn't think it was any kind of schematic problem

593
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 2: or play calling problem.

594
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 1: His message was when we did what.

595
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:37,200
Speaker 2: We were supposed to do, the results were good, which

596
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:41,400
Speaker 2: sounds really common sensical. But what he meant was, if

597
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 2: I call a play and it's not executed right, did

598
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 2: I have the wrong play called or did we not

599
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,199
Speaker 2: execute it right? Of course the latter is the answer,

600
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,119
Speaker 2: and that's what happens when you play a whole lot

601
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,680
Speaker 2: of young guys. They were crippled by injuries last year.

602
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 2: I mean, losing Dylan Moses was like a sledgehammer to

603
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,119
Speaker 2: their face. It happened right before the first game of

604
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,880
Speaker 2: the season, and they also lost Josh McMillan. They lost

605
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,159
Speaker 2: both of their inside linebackers. And you couple that with

606
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,920
Speaker 2: the fact that they had some attrition to the NFL,

607
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 2: and it was oh rough time for Alabama. First world

608
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 2: problems again. But you know what they were like last

609
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,439
Speaker 2: year watching them. I was at several of their games

610
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 2: and they look so lost at times, including this LSU

611
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 2: game you're watching if you're watching on YouTube, where I

612
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 2: think they missed like seventeen tackles. A lot of skill

613
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:26,679
Speaker 2: on that LSU team. I don't know if it was

614
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,119
Speaker 2: quite that skilled. I think Alabama had a little bit

615
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 2: to do with that. However, what they were like is

616
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 2: if you go into Public's late at night, you go

617
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 2: to the grocery store right before they're going to close,

618
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:37,640
Speaker 2: when they put the new produce out for the next

619
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 2: day and you see the green bananas. That was what

620
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 2: Alabama's defense was. It was like opening one of those

621
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 2: green bananas. You know, you got to put some muscle

622
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 2: in it to even puel those. And when you bite

623
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 2: into it, it doesn't taste like a banana, can't taste

624
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 2: like a battery actually, because it's not ripe yet.

625
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 1: It's not ready to be eaten yet.

626
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 2: Christian Harris and Shane Lee weren't ready to be on

627
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 2: the field, much less calling plays. So we fast forward

628
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 2: a year, and you know it, it extended beyond there. Lebrian

629
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 2: Ray was gone, DJ Dale was out, and when he

630
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 2: was in he was hobbled at best in some of

631
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 2: their big games. So this season, I say all that

632
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 2: to say this, a lot of people doubting Alabama relatively speaking.

633
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 2: When I say doubting, I just mean doubting their ability

634
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 2: to compete for a national championship. They do it because

635
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 2: they don't think Bama's defense is what it used to be,

636
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 2: and I think it's a year by year thing. I

637
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 2: think defensively, they'll be fine this year, and I think

638
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 2: at the end of this year, the noise will have

639
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 2: turned down considerably on Pete Golding. You know, I was

640
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 2: looking at some of the projected depth charts that they

641
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 2: have just to give you an idea of the kind

642
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 2: of depth they have. I was looking at some of

643
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 2: the projections for what their starters depth wise will look like.

644
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 1: On defense, I wrote down some names.

645
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 2: You guys who follow recruiting, remember all these names like

646
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:58,479
Speaker 2: King Wilcutta is not a listed starter for them at

647
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 2: linebacker at most places.

648
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 1: That dude's going to play a.

649
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 2: Whole lot, probably play ahead of the guy that they

650
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 2: have listed ahead of him in most publications. Christian Harris,

651
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 2: you will probably be listed behind Josh McMillan. Christian Harris

652
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 2: will be a star for them, Make no mistake. He

653
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 2: came on at times and flashed at times last year.

654
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 2: Dude's just out there playing as a true freshman. Christian Barmore.

655
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 2: I questioned why he wasn't on the field more last year.

656
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 2: Probably going to be out of here after this year.

657
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 2: That guy will be one of the best defensive players

658
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 2: in the country this year. But I'm looking at names

659
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 2: like Will Anderson, Drew Sanders, Chris braswell, Tim Smith. Those

660
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 2: are all true freshmen, by the way, that are not

661
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Speaker 2: going to be listed as starters anywhere that will be

662
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 2: big time players. I think for them this season. They've

663
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 2: got really good depth. They're as athletic probably as they've

664
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Speaker 2: been in several years in their front seven defensively. And

665
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Speaker 2: two staff changes that I just wanted to bring to

666
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Speaker 2: your attention, one of which we've already brought to your attention,

667
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 2: that I want you to pay attention to when it

668
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Speaker 2: comes to the production of Alabama's defense this year. One

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Speaker 2: of them is Scott Cochrane. Scott Cochran has moved on

670
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 2: to Georgia in another capacity, in another role, and they

671
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 2: got the duo from Indiana of doctor Matt Ray and

672
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Speaker 2: David Belum. I have spoken to a number of people

673
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Speaker 2: at Alabama. They don't even want to talk about football

674
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Speaker 2: right now. They want to skip right to the new

675
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 2: street and the conditioning staff. The reason I mentioned that

676
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 2: is because really, at the end of the day, their

677
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 2: purpose is to keep.

678
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Speaker 1: Guys healthy, keep guys on the field. If they keep these.

679
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Speaker 2: Cats on the field, Alabama will be as good as

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Speaker 2: anyone in the country this year.

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Speaker 1: I have no doubt they'll get quarterback figured out. I

682
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Speaker 1: have no doubt.

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Speaker 2: Whoever is playing quarterback for them will be a very

684
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 2: solid option. But we're talking defensively here. Defensively, I think

685
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Speaker 2: Alabama will look a whole lot more like Alabama. The

686
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Speaker 2: second name that I wanted you to just bear in

687
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 2: mind when we're talking about coaching staff hadn't heard this

688
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 2: talked about a lot publicly.

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Speaker 1: Suffice to say, I don't think they.

690
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Speaker 2: Were very happy with their hire at defensive line last year,

691
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Speaker 2: Brian Baker. Don't think he was a good fit. In retrospect,

692
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Speaker 2: He's moved on. Freddie Roach, who played at Alabama, is

693
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 2: now their defensive line coach, And just I think there's

694
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Speaker 2: a lot more synergy on that staff right now, especially

695
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Speaker 2: at that position, relative to the rest of the staff,

696
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Speaker 2: than there was last year.

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Speaker 1: Just remember as we wrap this, just remember that, man.

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Speaker 2: If you're watching on YouTube, Nick Saban could have had

699
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Speaker 2: his pick of dozens and dozens and dozens of candidates

700
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Speaker 2: for defensive coordinator. He stuck with Pete Golding when he

701
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 2: could have easily made a move. He didn't feel the

702
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 2: need to make a move. And if you think for

703
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Speaker 2: a second, this dude's just taking a chance or taking

704
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 2: a flyer in a second go around on an unproven commodity,

705
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Speaker 2: that he doesn't fully believe in you're crazy.

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Speaker 1: He knows what he's got. We may not, but he

707
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Speaker 1: knows what he's got.

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Speaker 2: And secondly, imagine being Pete Golding and I don't know

709
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Speaker 2: whether you care about it or not, but imagine you

710
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 2: got folks ripping you left and right, you pick up

711
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 2: on that stuff. Imagine all that, and then imagine your

712
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 2: boss saying nope, guy.

713
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Speaker 1: Imagine what that endorsement does.

714
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Speaker 2: I don't think there's an emoji in an iPhone that

715
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 2: fully expresses what that must make you feel like on

716
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 2: the inside and how much it makes you feel like

717
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 2: running through a brick wall for that guy, the best

718
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 2: maybe in the history of the game, has told you. Yeah,

719
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Speaker 2: I don't really care that everyone else is criticizing you.

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Speaker 2: You're good enough for me if I'm good enough for

721
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Speaker 2: Nick Saban. I don't really care about what Wayne from

722
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Speaker 2: Watumka is saying about me.

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm trying to say. But I love you, Wame.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's get to Q and A and let's

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Speaker 1: get out of here.

726
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Speaker 2: We had so many submissions for the Laky Extra podcast

727
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 2: that hey, I had to take another one, shave it

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Speaker 2: off the top, and we'll just do it on the show.

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Speaker 1: Here.

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Speaker 2: This is from Seth and he asks, if you could

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Speaker 2: pick one formerly great program to return to that level,

732
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Speaker 2: who would it be and why? So I was telling

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Speaker 2: Colin this was a coin flip for me. It was

734
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Speaker 2: gonna be Florida State or Miami. That's who it was

735
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 2: going to be. And so I flipped a coin and

736
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Speaker 2: it landed on Florida State. So I'm gonna pick Florida State.

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Speaker 2: Could just as easily be Miami pretty much for the

738
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Speaker 2: same reasons here. Number one, I love the brand of

739
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 2: Florida State. Now, the branding of Florida State I love,

740
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 2: right on par with any program in America. I made

741
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Speaker 2: it a point. I got to go down there a

742
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 2: few years ago when they played Clemson. That was Deshaun

743
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:16,239
Speaker 2: Watson's Clemson team, when they came into Doak and it

744
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 2: was a close game. It was the only time I

745
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 2: had ever been there. I was on the field for

746
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 2: that game. Great atmosphere, just it feels old school. It

747
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 2: doesn't feel like a more modernized stadium. And that's not

748
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 2: a bad thing. That's a good thing. It feels, you know,

749
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Speaker 2: it's very intimate, it's very intimidating.

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Speaker 1: It is.

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00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 2: I don't want to say dark, because dark's not the word,

752
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 2: but it's just it's not nice and clean and sparkly

753
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 2: like some new stadiums are. It's a place that it's

754
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 2: you know ahead of time, it's gonna be hard to

755
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 2: go in there, and when well, not when it's halfway full,

756
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 2: because you're putting up a five and seven season, so

757
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 2: you got to get them back in order to re

758
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 2: establish the brand. The second thing that this would accomplish,

759
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 2: or go a long way towards accomplishing, is given a

760
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Speaker 2: little competition to Clemson.

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Speaker 1: In the ACC.

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Speaker 2: Ideally you would get multiple programs that start to raise

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Speaker 2: their collective game. But even if it's just Florida State,

764
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Speaker 2: you know, even if I'm looking at a two team race,

765
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 2: a two team race is still infinitely better than just

766
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Speaker 2: this twelve week tune up campaign that you have to

767
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Speaker 2: get ready for the playoff. It's like you have an

768
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Speaker 2: extended four month long workout session in order to get

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Speaker 2: ready for the playoff.

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Speaker 1: And if you think that's disrespectful to the.

771
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Speaker 2: ACC, go back and watch the ACC over the last

772
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Speaker 2: few years. But the third thing this would accomplish, and

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Speaker 2: to me As I've told you many times, it's the

774
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Speaker 2: most underreported big story in college football right now. Not

775
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Speaker 2: by US, I mean we cover it all the time,

776
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,359
Speaker 2: but just nationally, I don't see a lot of people

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Speaker 2: picking up on the mass exodus of talent from South

778
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 2: Florida and recruiting, and it's because it's no mystery of

779
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 2: the Florida Gators do not have an elite recruiting staff.

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Speaker 2: They got a good one and they're a good program

781
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Speaker 2: right now, so they're the most attractive option. But Florida

782
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 2: State is very subpar and they just made a change coach,

783
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Speaker 2: so remains to be seen what that staff will do.

784
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Speaker 2: And Miami has been very so far for a long

785
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:06,919
Speaker 2: time and they just made a coaching change a year ago,

786
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 2: so it remains to be seen what that staff's going

787
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:10,800
Speaker 2: to do long term. But you don't have an option

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Speaker 2: if you're a kid from South Florida, you don't have

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Speaker 2: an option currently anywhere within driving distance being three hours

790
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,839
Speaker 2: being driving distance of your home to go to if

791
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 2: you want to know that you're going to be put

792
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 2: in the best position to compete for championships and to

793
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 2: maximize your future draft potential. That's not to say that

794
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 2: you couldn't go to Miami and be a top ten pick.

795
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Speaker 2: That's not to say that what place gives you a

796
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 2: better percentage chance of achieving all that Clemson, South Carolina, Tuscaloosa, Alabama,

797
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Speaker 2: Columbus Ohio, or Miami, Florida or Tallahassee, Florida right now.

798
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Speaker 2: So the reason that I would pick either of these

799
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 2: programs is cause I'd love to see that change. I

800
00:36:56,520 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 2: don't think people understand fully the dynamic shift in the

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00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 2: sport of college football. If even one more program in

802
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:07,399
Speaker 2: the state of Florida got their act together, that's eight

803
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Speaker 2: to twelve major recruits per year that don't leave the

804
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Speaker 2: state of Florida. You're not going to get all of them,

805
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 2: but you're keeping eight to twelve or more major elite,

806
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 2: blue chip, four and five star caliber players from going

807
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 2: to other programs.

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00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 1: Are they still going to get theirs? Yeah?

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00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 2: But when you got a sport that at the top level,

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00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 2: you know, think about Ohio State versus Clemson in the

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Speaker 2: very top, the playoff caliber level, when those games are

812
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 2: as close as they are, when the margins are as

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00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 2: thin as they are, and you got eight to twelve kids,

814
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 2: elite kids from the state of Florida no longer leaving Florida.

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Speaker 2: What if that's just one less first down for you?

816
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 2: What if that's one less sack on fourth and four.

817
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 2: You know, you never know what that could do and

818
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 2: the ramifications it could have for the rest of the sport,

819
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 2: not to mention what it could obviously do for Florida

820
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,280
Speaker 2: State or fourth Miami.

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Speaker 1: So that's my wish. That's did quote more like Graham

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Speaker 1: on Field of Dreams. That's my wish.

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Speaker 2: We'll see if it comes true. So we appreciate you

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Speaker 2: joining us tonight. We are still on the same schedule

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Speaker 2: every Sunday night, every Thursday night, eight Eastern, seventh Central.

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Speaker 2: We will of course have the Late Kick Extra podcast

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Speaker 2: this week that comes up on Wednesday. You can submit

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Speaker 2: your questions on the comment right below this video.

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Speaker 1: You can submit it there.

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Speaker 2: You can email me Josh paid seven zero six at

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Speaker 2: gmail dot com, hit me up on Twitter at Latekickjosh

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Speaker 2: always ask that you follow me on Twitter, and always

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Speaker 2: leave us a five star review. Many of you have

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Speaker 2: done that, we hope many more will. Until Thursday night

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Speaker 2: for director Colin for Aaron for Tani, I'm Josh Pate.

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Speaker 1: Have a great and safe week in God bless