WEBVTT - Hell and Gone Murder Line: Aaron Hodge [From the Archives]

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<v Speaker 1>School of Humans.

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<v Speaker 2>Helen Got Murder Line actively investigates cold case murders in

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<v Speaker 2>point to the challenges of verifying facts inherent in cold cases.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for listening.

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<v Speaker 3>In October of nineteen ninety five, something strange was going

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<v Speaker 3>on inside the Flick home at three h two McNabb

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<v Speaker 3>Street in Rector, Arkansas. The family was made up of

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<v Speaker 3>thirty six year old David Flick, his wife, four year

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<v Speaker 3>old Barbara, their daughter, eleven year old Andrea Flick, and

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<v Speaker 3>Barbara's son from a previous relationship, seventeen year old Aaron

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<v Speaker 3>Michael Hodge. Aaron was never officially adopted by David Flick,

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<v Speaker 3>but at the time he used his last name, so

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<v Speaker 3>he went by Aaron flick. Barbara was a nurse, her husband,

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<v Speaker 3>David had a transmission shop. Friends and family said that

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<v Speaker 3>they were a happy couple. Andrea played basketball and did

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<v Speaker 3>beauty pageants. Aaron was well liked by his friends as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Both Andrea and Aaron were popular at school. Aarin would

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<v Speaker 3>later say. Andrea, Barbara, and David were planning on going

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<v Speaker 3>to Florida to visit relatives, leaving seventeen year old Aaron

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<v Speaker 3>at home, and, like many teens at home alone, Aaron decided.

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<v Speaker 1>To throw a party.

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<v Speaker 3>This seems perfectly normal, except that David, Barbara, and Andrea

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<v Speaker 3>never arrived in Florida. Their relatives were concerned, and after

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<v Speaker 3>a week a friend of Barbara's called the police. She

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<v Speaker 3>said the family never showed up at their relative's house

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<v Speaker 3>and that no one had seen them in several days.

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<v Speaker 1>So police did some checking.

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<v Speaker 3>They found that no one in Florida had seen David,

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<v Speaker 3>Barbara or Andrea, nor had anyone in Rector, Arkansas. But

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<v Speaker 3>there was one member of the family who had been

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<v Speaker 3>spotted around town, Aaron Hodge.

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<v Speaker 1>People had seen.

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<v Speaker 3>Aaron driving his stepfather's pickup truck around Paragold. That weekend

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<v Speaker 3>was a big weekend to be out and about in

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<v Speaker 3>that area. It was homecoming weekend, which is a big

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<v Speaker 3>deal everywhere and especially in small towns. Everyone was at

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<v Speaker 3>the Friday night football game. On October thirteenth, nineteen ninety five,

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<v Speaker 3>Aaron drove to the homecoming game and parties in David's

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<v Speaker 3>truck and was hanging out with friends there. He was

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<v Speaker 3>picked up by police at the homecoming festivity and taken

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<v Speaker 3>to the Paragold Police station. Paragold police officer Audrey Emberton

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<v Speaker 3>came to the station and interviewed Aarin. Officer Emberton and

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<v Speaker 3>another officer, Terry Prewitt, then went to the Flick family

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<v Speaker 3>home in the early morning hours at around one am

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<v Speaker 3>on Saturday, October fourteenth. Aaron lived in a converted garage.

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<v Speaker 1>It was in the main.

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<v Speaker 3>Part of the house, but it was his own kind

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<v Speaker 3>of separate area, away from the rest of the family.

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<v Speaker 3>When the police asked Aaron about his family, he said

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<v Speaker 3>they were fine. He said he had heard from them

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of days earlier and they were supposed to

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<v Speaker 3>be back later that day, meaning later on Saturday. Police

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<v Speaker 3>did not buy that story. At three am, Officer Prewitt

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<v Speaker 3>went back to the home to talk to erin again.

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<v Speaker 3>This time Officer Prewett asked if he could get access

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<v Speaker 3>to the main part of the house where the rest

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<v Speaker 3>of the family lived. Aaron told police that the doors

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<v Speaker 3>were locked, so Officer Prewitt looked around. He looked in

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<v Speaker 3>a window of the main house and saw some sheets

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<v Speaker 3>on the floor. When he asked Aaron about the sheets,

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<v Speaker 3>Aaron said the family had been doing some remodeling. Later

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<v Speaker 3>that morning, Aaron was at the police station answering questions,

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<v Speaker 3>and police went back to the Flick house. Officer Prewitt

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<v Speaker 3>got closer to the front door and he smelled something horrible.

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<v Speaker 3>The stench of decomposition was so overpowering that police later

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<v Speaker 3>noted they could smell it when they were one hundred

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<v Speaker 3>and fifty.

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<v Speaker 1>Feet away from the house.

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<v Speaker 3>Officer Prewitt entered the home, the smell got worse as

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<v Speaker 3>he went further in. He found David, Andrea, and Barbara

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<v Speaker 3>all dead, and forensic testing later showed they had been

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<v Speaker 3>dead for about a week. This episode is going to

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<v Speaker 3>be a little bit different from other cases we cover

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<v Speaker 3>because this case isn't open.

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<v Speaker 1>It's already been solved.

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<v Speaker 3>But I thought that it was important to cover because

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<v Speaker 3>this is a very divisive case. There is a man

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<v Speaker 3>in prison for these murders, someone who claims that he

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<v Speaker 3>was wrongfully convicted. So was there a misunderstanding, could someone

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<v Speaker 3>else have been involved? Or is the right person behind

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<v Speaker 3>bars for killing this family in cold blood? On the surface,

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<v Speaker 3>this appeared to be a perfect family, but detectives quickly

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<v Speaker 3>discovered things behind closed doors were far from what they seemed.

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<v Speaker 3>What happened to turn this seemingly perfect family into a

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<v Speaker 3>house of horrors?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Catherine Townsend.

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<v Speaker 3>At Helen. Gonepod this Is Helen Gone Murder line police In.

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<v Speaker 3>Arkansas we're interviewing seventeen year Old Aaron hodge about a

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<v Speaker 3>possible involvement the triple homicide of his entire. Family aaron was.

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<v Speaker 3>Crying he said he had no idea what. Happened, meanwhile

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<v Speaker 3>police were processing the crime. Scene inside the, house the

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<v Speaker 3>doorway To andrea's room was. Locked police busted it down

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<v Speaker 3>and found her lying in her. Bed andrea had been

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<v Speaker 3>shot in the. Head her torso was on the bed

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<v Speaker 3>and her feet were dangling off. It she was wearing

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<v Speaker 3>only her underwear and had been covered up with her.

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<v Speaker 3>Comforter andrea's white shorts AND t shirt were on the

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<v Speaker 3>floor near the. Bed her head was leaning against a

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<v Speaker 3>wall and her arm was up in what may have

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<v Speaker 3>been a defensive. Position detectives said they felt like she

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<v Speaker 3>had struggled with her, killer and that her killer had

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<v Speaker 3>used a pillow to muffle the noise from the. Gun

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<v Speaker 3>aaron lived in a converted bedroom right off the. Garage

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<v Speaker 3>his room was neat with no trace of. Blood police

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<v Speaker 3>did fine shells from a thirty eight caliber weapon In aaron's.

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<v Speaker 3>Room they later said that the murder weapon had been

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<v Speaker 3>a thirty eight caliber gun like the one owned By David.

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<v Speaker 3>Flick police followed the trail of blood down the hall

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<v Speaker 3>To barber's. Bedroom they found her lying on her bed

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<v Speaker 3>in her, nightgown with layers of bedding covering her. Body

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<v Speaker 3>because she was wearing her nightgown and because of the

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<v Speaker 3>position of her, body they felt That barbara had been

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<v Speaker 3>sleeping when she was. Attacked they Found david's body there,

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<v Speaker 3>too face, down at the foot Of barbara's water.

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<v Speaker 1>Bed he was wearing blue pants and a WHITE t.

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<v Speaker 3>Shirt police noted they found no signs of a struggle

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<v Speaker 3>in this. Bedroom police thought That david had not been

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<v Speaker 3>shot and killed In barbara's, bedroom but that he had

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<v Speaker 3>been dragged there from the living.

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<v Speaker 1>Room there were pulls of.

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<v Speaker 3>Blood on the living room sofa and a blood trail

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<v Speaker 3>down the hallway of the house that had been covered

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<v Speaker 3>up with. Pillows officers believed the killer had used the

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<v Speaker 3>pillows to muffle the sound of the, gun but there

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<v Speaker 3>was a lot that police didn't know because the bodies Of,

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<v Speaker 3>David andrea And barbara were too decomposed to know exactly

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<v Speaker 3>what happened to them or how long they had been.

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<v Speaker 3>There all three victims were bloated and covered in large

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<v Speaker 3>blisters that were filled with. Fluid all of them had

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<v Speaker 3>been shot in the head at close. Range barbara And

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<v Speaker 3>andrea had each been shot. Once david had been shot three.

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<v Speaker 3>Times SO i want to back up and look at

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<v Speaker 3>how long the police had been asking questions about the

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<v Speaker 3>family and how Long aaron had been stalling with giving

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<v Speaker 3>them any. Information On october, fourteenth after Officers pruitt And

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<v Speaker 3>imbriden talked To aaron at three am and he said

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<v Speaker 3>his family was, fine police went To David flick's transmission

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<v Speaker 3>shop to see if they could find any. Clues police

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<v Speaker 3>Asked david's employee if he had noticed. Anything he said

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<v Speaker 3>that a toolbox Of david's had been broken, into there

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<v Speaker 3>was some, money and a gun that belonged To david.

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<v Speaker 3>Missing police suspected that something was, wrong so by now

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<v Speaker 3>the police Had aaron in. Custody when they got to

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<v Speaker 3>the interview, Room Officer, leach the officer who was Interrogating,

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<v Speaker 3>aaron Asked aarin to tell him what he. Knew aaron

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<v Speaker 3>said that his family were in the, home and Then

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<v Speaker 3>Officer leach asked what condition they were in if they were.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay aaron said they're, Dead so Then aaron told his

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<v Speaker 3>version of the. Story, first he said he wasn't sure

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<v Speaker 3>what happened to his. Family, later he completely denied having

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<v Speaker 3>anything to do with their. Deaths he basically said that

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<v Speaker 3>he had gotten into a big fight With david and

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<v Speaker 3>That david had killed his. Family one week After David,

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<v Speaker 3>Flick Barbara, flick And Andrea flick were supposed to arrive In,

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<v Speaker 3>florida police were Interviewing aaron at the deaths of his family,

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<v Speaker 3>members But erin claimed that he didn't kill his. Family

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<v Speaker 3>he said that his, Stepfather David, flick had Killed andrea

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<v Speaker 3>And barbara in a fit of rage and then turned

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<v Speaker 3>the gun on. Himself but it was obvious that someone

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<v Speaker 3>had covered up the bodies in the. Home there were, sheets, blankets,

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<v Speaker 3>pillows and rugs spread out all over the living, room

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<v Speaker 3>So aaron's version of the story on the, surface seemed

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<v Speaker 3>to make zero. Sense If david had killed his wife

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<v Speaker 3>and daughter and then shot, himself how could he have

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<v Speaker 3>shot himself three.

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<v Speaker 1>Times in the.

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<v Speaker 3>Head this would mean That aaron had found the bodies

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<v Speaker 3>and then moved. Them after finding the, bodies police Reinterviewed

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<v Speaker 3>Arin Arin now said That david had been cheating On

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<v Speaker 3>barbara and that they had been sleeping. Separately aaron claimed

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<v Speaker 3>that he told his mother about the infidelity and that

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<v Speaker 3>she had made a plan to Leave. David aaron claimed

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<v Speaker 3>That andrea And barbara were planning on going To florida

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<v Speaker 3>without him And. David he said that He, aaron was

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<v Speaker 3>supposed to go To florida to meet them. Later aaron

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<v Speaker 3>said he was supposed to stay with his grandmother until

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<v Speaker 3>he made the trip To. Florida then he was going

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<v Speaker 3>to be reunited with his mother and. Sister aaron admitted

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<v Speaker 3>that he did break Into david's. Store he stole his

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<v Speaker 3>stepfather's gun in, cash but he said he did that

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<v Speaker 3>Because david owed him. Money aaron said he and a

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<v Speaker 3>friend of his Named David gun had broken in To david's.

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<v Speaker 3>Shop after that he went. Home he had the gun

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<v Speaker 3>and the money with. Him he wanted to Avoid, david

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<v Speaker 3>so he said he went to his bedroom and locked the.

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<v Speaker 3>Door while in the, bedroom he claimed he was counting

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<v Speaker 3>the money and messing around with the, gun putting bullets

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<v Speaker 3>in it and pulling them. Out he Said david came

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<v Speaker 3>into his room and found him with the gun and the.

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<v Speaker 3>Money he said that he and his stepfather got into an.

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<v Speaker 3>Argument at some, point the argument spilled out into the living.

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<v Speaker 3>Room aaron said he Told david That barbara hated him

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<v Speaker 3>and that they were going to leave. Him aaron said

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<v Speaker 3>he told his stepfather he wished that he was. Dead,

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<v Speaker 3>Then aaron claimed that his stepfather was trying to Get

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<v Speaker 3>aaron to fight. Him aaron said he refused to do

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<v Speaker 3>that and he left the. House aaron claimed that when

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<v Speaker 3>he came back to the, house he heard something a,

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<v Speaker 3>gurgling snoring kind of noise coming From. David david was

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<v Speaker 3>on the. Couch he noticed there was blood pouring off

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<v Speaker 3>of the. Couch he claimed That david was already. Dead

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<v Speaker 3>aaron said that he was horrified to find his mother

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<v Speaker 3>and sister dead as. Well he said he believed That

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<v Speaker 3>david had killed both of them and then turned the

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<v Speaker 3>gun on. Himself aaron said that when he realized What

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<v Speaker 3>david had, done he shot his stepfather's body two more

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<v Speaker 3>times because he was so angry at. Him police Asked

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<v Speaker 3>daron why he hadn't called the authorities to report that

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<v Speaker 3>his parents and sister were. Dead he, said, basically he was.

0:14:50.360 --> 0:14:53.680
<v Speaker 3>Scared he said that he was afraid that police would

0:14:53.720 --> 0:14:57.320
<v Speaker 3>blame him for the, killings so he just shut the

0:14:57.320 --> 0:14:59.680
<v Speaker 3>door to the. House he went out to his own

0:14:59.720 --> 0:15:03.720
<v Speaker 3>separate area and left them, there and then he threw

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<v Speaker 3>a party in his part of the, house one that

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<v Speaker 3>didn't end for several.

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<v Speaker 1>Days could this be?

0:15:10.600 --> 0:15:13.760
<v Speaker 3>Possible Could aaron have found the bodies, and in some

0:15:13.840 --> 0:15:17.440
<v Speaker 3>kind of disassociated state of, shock just Moved david into

0:15:17.520 --> 0:15:20.640
<v Speaker 3>the bedroom and then stayed away gone out with his.

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<v Speaker 3>Friends after the, interview detectives had to figure out If

0:15:25.000 --> 0:15:26.640
<v Speaker 3>aaron's version of events was even.

0:15:26.720 --> 0:15:28.880
<v Speaker 1>Possible was this just.

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<v Speaker 3>A terrified teen who was disassociated from reality after abuse

0:15:32.480 --> 0:15:36.920
<v Speaker 3>at home or a cold blooded. Killer in the days

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<v Speaker 3>between his family's deaths and police discovering the, Bodies aaron lived.

0:15:41.440 --> 0:15:45.600
<v Speaker 3>Large he drove David it's black nineteen eighty NINE gmc

0:15:45.680 --> 0:15:48.560
<v Speaker 3>pickup truck around. Town he spent the money that he

0:15:48.600 --> 0:15:52.000
<v Speaker 3>had stolen from the. Shop he also Used david's credit.

0:15:52.040 --> 0:15:56.080
<v Speaker 3>Cards witnesses told police That aaron spent money on clothes AT. J. C,

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<v Speaker 3>penny on gas and other, items and That aaron was

0:16:00.640 --> 0:16:05.040
<v Speaker 3>Signing david's name for these. Purchases one Of aaron's friends

0:16:05.080 --> 0:16:09.120
<v Speaker 3>told police he saw receipts for big amounts six hundred

0:16:09.160 --> 0:16:13.120
<v Speaker 3>to seven hundred, dollars and when friends and family members

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<v Speaker 3>would Ask arin where his parents, were he told everyone

0:16:16.680 --> 0:16:20.480
<v Speaker 3>that they were on vacation In. Florida after police Told

0:16:20.520 --> 0:16:24.480
<v Speaker 3>aaron they found the, bodies he insisted That david had murdered.

0:16:24.480 --> 0:16:28.760
<v Speaker 3>Them police talked To david And barbara's. Friends many of

0:16:28.800 --> 0:16:32.080
<v Speaker 3>them Said david And barbara had a lot of problems With,

0:16:32.120 --> 0:16:35.800
<v Speaker 3>aaron and one friend Of barbara's confessed something even more.

0:16:35.840 --> 0:16:40.480
<v Speaker 3>Suspicious she said Both barbara And david had been afraid Of.

0:16:40.600 --> 0:16:44.200
<v Speaker 3>Erin they said That aaron had issues at, school that

0:16:44.240 --> 0:16:46.520
<v Speaker 3>he had recently been suspended for a day for making

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<v Speaker 3>an obscene gesture while the class picture was being.

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<v Speaker 1>Taken but things were more serious than just school.

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<v Speaker 3>PRANKS a friend Of david's who worked with him at

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<v Speaker 3>the transmission shop told police That david had Bought aaron

0:16:58.800 --> 0:17:02.560
<v Speaker 3>A mustang for his sixteenth, birthday but that one condition

0:17:02.640 --> 0:17:05.240
<v Speaker 3>of buying the car was That aaron had to maintain good,

0:17:05.320 --> 0:17:09.400
<v Speaker 3>grades But aarin, Didn't his grades slipped and the car

0:17:09.480 --> 0:17:13.640
<v Speaker 3>was taken. Away Then arin got stopped at THE asu.

0:17:13.720 --> 0:17:17.440
<v Speaker 3>Campus he gave his name As Aaron flick and apparently

0:17:17.600 --> 0:17:19.240
<v Speaker 3>used a fake social security.

0:17:19.320 --> 0:17:19.600
<v Speaker 4>Number.

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<v Speaker 3>Anne david also confided in his friend That arin had

0:17:24.880 --> 0:17:28.000
<v Speaker 3>choked his Sister andrea because she wouldn't give him. Money

0:17:29.240 --> 0:17:32.400
<v Speaker 3>david told his friend that he was ready to Leave

0:17:32.440 --> 0:17:35.880
<v Speaker 3>barbara because he couldn't Discipline aaron the way he wanted,

0:17:35.880 --> 0:17:39.600
<v Speaker 3>to but he said he wouldn't leave because of his

0:17:39.680 --> 0:17:43.560
<v Speaker 3>love for his. Daughter so tensions were rising inside that.

0:17:43.840 --> 0:17:47.920
<v Speaker 3>House but what could have happened that led to the triple.

0:17:47.960 --> 0:17:52.480
<v Speaker 3>Homicide friends Of aaron said that he drank and took.

0:17:52.560 --> 0:17:56.240
<v Speaker 3>Drugs his, grandmother the grandmother he said he was supposed

0:17:56.280 --> 0:17:59.120
<v Speaker 3>to stay, with was the only one WHO i can

0:17:59.160 --> 0:18:02.320
<v Speaker 3>find in police interviews who actually had some nice things

0:18:02.320 --> 0:18:05.800
<v Speaker 3>to say About. Aaron she apparently described him as being

0:18:05.840 --> 0:18:09.480
<v Speaker 3>a mild mannered. Person in, fact things had gotten so

0:18:09.680 --> 0:18:12.960
<v Speaker 3>bad Between aaron and his parents they were planning on

0:18:13.040 --> 0:18:16.600
<v Speaker 3>sending him to a juvenile facility The Arkansas Baptist Boys

0:18:16.680 --> 0:18:20.320
<v Speaker 3>ranch In, harrison and the relationship Between aaron and his,

0:18:20.360 --> 0:18:26.960
<v Speaker 3>Stepfather david was particularly. Tumultuous police talked To aaron's, Friend David.

0:18:27.000 --> 0:18:31.400
<v Speaker 3>Gunn this friend later testified That aaron asked him if

0:18:31.440 --> 0:18:34.320
<v Speaker 3>he would drive erin to his stepfather's transmission shop at

0:18:34.320 --> 0:18:38.360
<v Speaker 3>eleven pm On, Sunday october, eighth nineteen ninety. Five when

0:18:38.360 --> 0:18:40.800
<v Speaker 3>they got, There aaron tried his keys in the, door

0:18:40.880 --> 0:18:43.680
<v Speaker 3>but the keys didn't, work So david said that Anir

0:18:43.720 --> 0:18:46.560
<v Speaker 3>aaron broke into the shop and then broke open a.

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<v Speaker 3>Toolbox all there was in there was fifty, dollars Which aaron.

0:18:50.720 --> 0:18:53.680
<v Speaker 3>Stole the friend testified this seemed to be kind of

0:18:53.680 --> 0:18:56.200
<v Speaker 3>a surprise To, aaron Because aaron said he expected to

0:18:56.200 --> 0:19:00.320
<v Speaker 3>find more. Money aaron's friends said That aaron also stole

0:19:00.360 --> 0:19:03.880
<v Speaker 3>a pistol a holster in shells from the. Toolbox he

0:19:03.920 --> 0:19:07.760
<v Speaker 3>said That aaron loaded five shells into that. Pistol after,

0:19:07.840 --> 0:19:10.280
<v Speaker 3>That David gunn said that he And aaron took a

0:19:10.360 --> 0:19:13.000
<v Speaker 3>ride and drove to a. Cemetery aaron got out of

0:19:13.040 --> 0:19:16.160
<v Speaker 3>the car and said he needed to. Think then he

0:19:16.240 --> 0:19:18.680
<v Speaker 3>came back to the. Car they drove To aaron's. House

0:19:19.360 --> 0:19:23.280
<v Speaker 3>aaron walked in carrying that stolen. Pistol the next time

0:19:23.400 --> 0:19:26.120
<v Speaker 3>he Saw aaron was when he was at school the

0:19:26.160 --> 0:19:31.200
<v Speaker 3>next day driving his stepfather's. Truck police were trying to

0:19:31.320 --> 0:19:34.480
<v Speaker 3>establish a timeline because of the fact That aaron was

0:19:34.560 --> 0:19:37.840
<v Speaker 3>driving the. Truck police believed the family were killed on

0:19:37.880 --> 0:19:41.480
<v Speaker 3>the night Of october, eighth nineteen ninety, five which means

0:19:41.520 --> 0:19:44.360
<v Speaker 3>they would have been lying there for five days until

0:19:44.400 --> 0:19:47.360
<v Speaker 3>the thirteenth or the early morning hours of the, fourteenth

0:19:47.400 --> 0:19:51.560
<v Speaker 3>when they were. Found more than one person told police

0:19:51.600 --> 0:19:54.520
<v Speaker 3>it was very unusual For aaron to be driving his stepfather's.

0:19:54.600 --> 0:19:58.080
<v Speaker 3>Vehicle they knew he did not normally have permission to

0:19:58.160 --> 0:20:02.080
<v Speaker 3>drive that. TRUCK a lot of people told Police aaron

0:20:02.160 --> 0:20:06.000
<v Speaker 3>and his stepfather did not get, along And aaron didn't

0:20:06.000 --> 0:20:08.400
<v Speaker 3>just drive the truck to school that one. Day he

0:20:08.640 --> 0:20:11.720
<v Speaker 3>drove his stepfather's truck for several. Days he took his

0:20:11.720 --> 0:20:15.120
<v Speaker 3>friends to the, Movies he drove Around rector And paragold

0:20:15.160 --> 0:20:18.640
<v Speaker 3>And jonesboro in the, truck and he threw parties at.

0:20:18.640 --> 0:20:22.920
<v Speaker 3>Home police talked to a lot of teenagers who said

0:20:22.920 --> 0:20:25.760
<v Speaker 3>they were drinking and smoking pot in that apartment all.

0:20:25.760 --> 0:20:30.080
<v Speaker 3>Week police also talked to a young woman who testified.

0:20:29.600 --> 0:20:32.480
<v Speaker 1>She had sex With aaron in his bedroom off the.

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<v Speaker 3>Garage some people at the parties said they noticed a

0:20:37.120 --> 0:20:40.360
<v Speaker 3>bad smell even though the bodies were in the main

0:20:40.440 --> 0:20:44.120
<v Speaker 3>part of the. House they Said aaron had excus. Uses

0:20:44.200 --> 0:20:47.120
<v Speaker 3>he told them the sewer was backing. Up he told

0:20:47.240 --> 0:20:48.200
<v Speaker 3>others it was cat.

0:20:48.240 --> 0:20:49.160
<v Speaker 1>Litter he.

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<v Speaker 3>Said there was work and remodeling and stuff going on

0:20:51.440 --> 0:20:53.520
<v Speaker 3>in the main part of the, house so everyone just

0:20:53.560 --> 0:20:57.120
<v Speaker 3>stayed away from. It it wasn't until much later that

0:20:57.240 --> 0:21:01.560
<v Speaker 3>these teens realized with horror they had been partying next

0:21:01.600 --> 0:21:06.400
<v Speaker 3>to three dead. Bodies his friend said during that week

0:21:06.440 --> 0:21:09.560
<v Speaker 3>That aarin seemed calm and happy and, normal that he

0:21:09.680 --> 0:21:12.200
<v Speaker 3>told more than one person it was the best week

0:21:12.240 --> 0:21:15.360
<v Speaker 3>of his. Life he had plenty of money to spend

0:21:15.360 --> 0:21:19.160
<v Speaker 3>on purchases and a nice truck to. Drive police found

0:21:19.200 --> 0:21:22.520
<v Speaker 3>bloody clothing In david's, truck along with a pillow that

0:21:22.600 --> 0:21:25.520
<v Speaker 3>appeared to have a gunshot hole in. It that was

0:21:25.560 --> 0:21:28.440
<v Speaker 3>the one they believed the killer used as a. Silencer

0:21:29.640 --> 0:21:32.640
<v Speaker 3>this didn't seem to make, sense because If aaron's version

0:21:32.680 --> 0:21:35.840
<v Speaker 3>of the story was, true Then david would have to

0:21:35.880 --> 0:21:39.160
<v Speaker 3>have killed his wife and, daughter then put that bloody

0:21:39.160 --> 0:21:43.320
<v Speaker 3>pillow case into the, truck then gone, back lay down

0:21:43.320 --> 0:21:46.280
<v Speaker 3>on the sofa and shot himself in the. Head this

0:21:46.480 --> 0:21:49.600
<v Speaker 3>was something That aaron never really explained in his version

0:21:49.600 --> 0:21:54.120
<v Speaker 3>of the. Story aaron told police he did not kill his,

0:21:54.160 --> 0:21:57.560
<v Speaker 3>family but he did tell several different versions of the.

0:21:57.600 --> 0:22:00.360
<v Speaker 3>Story at, first he said he had no idea what

0:22:00.400 --> 0:22:04.040
<v Speaker 3>happened to. Them, later according to court, documents he said

0:22:04.080 --> 0:22:07.040
<v Speaker 3>he didn't remember exactly what, happened but that he could

0:22:07.040 --> 0:22:10.040
<v Speaker 3>have done. It he admitted to police he hated his.

0:22:10.080 --> 0:22:12.840
<v Speaker 3>Stepfather he said he felt like he was out of.

0:22:12.880 --> 0:22:17.400
<v Speaker 3>Control Was aaron being abused at? Home was this just

0:22:17.440 --> 0:22:20.480
<v Speaker 3>a fight that got out of, control or was this

0:22:20.600 --> 0:22:25.520
<v Speaker 3>something much more. Premeditated one friend Of barbara's Named Darlene,

0:22:25.560 --> 0:22:29.360
<v Speaker 3>bolin Testified david told her specifically that he was afraid

0:22:29.360 --> 0:22:32.080
<v Speaker 3>Of erin and afraid of quote what was going to.

0:22:32.120 --> 0:22:37.000
<v Speaker 3>Happen aaron's, Friend David, gunn also Testified aaron had been

0:22:37.040 --> 0:22:40.680
<v Speaker 3>thinking about killing his. Stepfather he said That aaron told

0:22:40.720 --> 0:22:43.400
<v Speaker 3>him six months before the murders that he planned to

0:22:43.480 --> 0:22:46.040
<v Speaker 3>Kill David flick by hitting him on the head with

0:22:46.120 --> 0:22:51.040
<v Speaker 3>a wrench and later burying the. Body, Then aaron's friend

0:22:51.080 --> 0:22:53.760
<v Speaker 3>Said aaron planned to say that his stepfather was. Missing

0:22:54.880 --> 0:22:59.600
<v Speaker 3>police didn't Believe aaron's, story but there was gunshot residue

0:22:59.600 --> 0:23:00.480
<v Speaker 3>On David flick's.

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<v Speaker 1>Hands an employee of.

0:23:02.320 --> 0:23:05.920
<v Speaker 3>The State Crime laboratory Testified David flick's left hand tested

0:23:05.960 --> 0:23:10.600
<v Speaker 3>positive for gunshot, residue his right hand tested. Negative the

0:23:10.760 --> 0:23:14.480
<v Speaker 3>problem was most of the gunshot residue was on the wrong,

0:23:14.600 --> 0:23:18.360
<v Speaker 3>hand Because David flick was right. Handed when the state

0:23:18.440 --> 0:23:21.480
<v Speaker 3>crime expert was asked about this in, court she Said

0:23:21.600 --> 0:23:24.160
<v Speaker 3>david could have had that residue on his hands because

0:23:24.200 --> 0:23:27.120
<v Speaker 3>he had fired a weapon, recently but it also could

0:23:27.120 --> 0:23:30.000
<v Speaker 3>have been there for other. Reasons for, example it could

0:23:30.040 --> 0:23:32.560
<v Speaker 3>have rubbed off On david if his body was dragged

0:23:32.600 --> 0:23:36.640
<v Speaker 3>away by some person who had gunshot residue on their own.

0:23:36.680 --> 0:23:40.240
<v Speaker 1>Hands police were not Buying aaron's.

0:23:40.280 --> 0:23:43.920
<v Speaker 3>Story aaron was charged with triple capital murder for the

0:23:44.000 --> 0:23:48.160
<v Speaker 3>killings Of, David, barbara And. Andrea at, Trial aaron's defense

0:23:48.200 --> 0:23:51.240
<v Speaker 3>attorneys said his, Father David, flick was the, killer that

0:23:51.320 --> 0:23:53.120
<v Speaker 3>he Killed barbara And andrea and then shot.

0:23:53.200 --> 0:23:57.520
<v Speaker 1>Himself they claimed That david.

0:23:57.200 --> 0:24:00.280
<v Speaker 3>Shot his wife and daughter using his left hand so

0:24:00.400 --> 0:24:03.360
<v Speaker 3>his non dominant hand to, fire and that he used

0:24:03.360 --> 0:24:08.680
<v Speaker 3>the pillowcases as homemade silencers to muffle the. Sounds aaron's

0:24:08.720 --> 0:24:12.320
<v Speaker 3>lawyers set in court that he was so distraught after

0:24:12.360 --> 0:24:15.520
<v Speaker 3>coming home and finding his mother and sister's bodies And

0:24:15.640 --> 0:24:18.920
<v Speaker 3>david lying on the sofa already, dead that he Shot

0:24:19.000 --> 0:24:23.560
<v Speaker 3>david twice more in the, head and that after trying

0:24:23.560 --> 0:24:27.920
<v Speaker 3>to cover up the bodies and, blood he basically disassociated with.

0:24:27.960 --> 0:24:30.760
<v Speaker 1>Reality at, trial the.

0:24:30.800 --> 0:24:34.760
<v Speaker 3>State and the defense painted two very different versions of

0:24:34.800 --> 0:24:38.440
<v Speaker 3>what was really going on behind closed doors inside The flick.

0:24:38.480 --> 0:24:42.440
<v Speaker 3>House there was no question there were major problems in that.

0:24:42.520 --> 0:24:46.160
<v Speaker 3>Home had hated his, stepfather and at least one Of

0:24:46.200 --> 0:24:49.320
<v Speaker 3>barbara's close friends testified That aaron's parents were afraid of,

0:24:49.400 --> 0:24:53.440
<v Speaker 3>him and there were some things that police found that

0:24:53.480 --> 0:24:56.400
<v Speaker 3>would seem, to at least on the, surface back up

0:24:56.440 --> 0:24:59.200
<v Speaker 3>some of the things That aaron was saying about infidelity

0:24:59.280 --> 0:25:04.080
<v Speaker 3>In barbara And david's, relationship because when police searched the transmission,

0:25:04.080 --> 0:25:08.040
<v Speaker 3>shop they found what was described as sex paraphernalia in.

0:25:08.080 --> 0:25:12.880
<v Speaker 3>There according to police, reports there were photographs in that,

0:25:12.920 --> 0:25:16.040
<v Speaker 3>shop and one of those, photographs according to court, documents

0:25:16.480 --> 0:25:19.640
<v Speaker 3>seemed to back up the fact That barbara was engaged

0:25:19.720 --> 0:25:22.000
<v Speaker 3>in some kind of sexual activity and that there were

0:25:22.040 --> 0:25:26.080
<v Speaker 3>images of, Her but it's really not clear whether that

0:25:26.240 --> 0:25:28.520
<v Speaker 3>was evidence of her having an affair with someone else

0:25:28.840 --> 0:25:33.720
<v Speaker 3>or whether the pictures just Showed barbara And, honestly it's

0:25:33.800 --> 0:25:39.680
<v Speaker 3>confusing because these pictures were in her, Husband david's, Toolbox

0:25:39.760 --> 0:25:42.960
<v Speaker 3>so it does beg the, question if it was Showing

0:25:43.000 --> 0:25:47.280
<v Speaker 3>barbara engaging in, infidelity Why david would keep those pictures

0:25:47.280 --> 0:25:50.400
<v Speaker 3>in his own. Toolbox that is still a little bit

0:25:50.440 --> 0:25:53.840
<v Speaker 3>of a. Mystery aaron's attorneys seemed to be making the

0:25:53.920 --> 0:25:56.880
<v Speaker 3>point that those photographs could have Caused david to fly

0:25:56.960 --> 0:25:59.280
<v Speaker 3>into a rage and could have led to a voltle

0:25:59.360 --> 0:26:03.240
<v Speaker 3>argument on the evening Of october, eighth but those photographs

0:26:03.240 --> 0:26:06.760
<v Speaker 3>were not allowed in. Court even if there was a

0:26:06.880 --> 0:26:10.360
<v Speaker 3>huge fight in the, home what would Motivate aarin to

0:26:10.520 --> 0:26:14.320
<v Speaker 3>kill his? Mother the prosecutors believe that it was the

0:26:14.360 --> 0:26:18.360
<v Speaker 3>prospect Of david's mother siding with his stepfather and planning

0:26:18.360 --> 0:26:21.800
<v Speaker 3>to Send erin away to a juvenile. Home but what

0:26:21.920 --> 0:26:25.600
<v Speaker 3>about his Sister. Andrea even If aaron flew into a

0:26:25.680 --> 0:26:29.160
<v Speaker 3>rage and killed his, stepfather who he admitted to people he,

0:26:29.240 --> 0:26:33.080
<v Speaker 3>hated and his, mother how could he kill his eleven

0:26:33.160 --> 0:26:37.440
<v Speaker 3>year old, sister who even those who didn't Like aaron admit.

0:26:37.240 --> 0:26:38.160
<v Speaker 1>He seemed to truly.

0:26:38.240 --> 0:26:42.120
<v Speaker 3>Love but it turned out That aaron's relationship with his

0:26:42.160 --> 0:26:45.720
<v Speaker 3>Sister andrea was not, straightforward As aaron may have told.

0:26:45.800 --> 0:26:50.200
<v Speaker 3>People remember that friend Of, david's the one who told police,

0:26:50.240 --> 0:26:53.760
<v Speaker 3>that according To, David aaron choked his sister because she

0:26:53.800 --> 0:26:58.040
<v Speaker 3>wouldn't give him. Money that same friend said That david

0:26:58.120 --> 0:27:01.400
<v Speaker 3>did not want erin in the house because he Said

0:27:01.640 --> 0:27:05.040
<v Speaker 3>aaron had threatened to Kill andrea if she Told david

0:27:05.080 --> 0:27:08.560
<v Speaker 3>About aaron hurting her or stealing her. Money things had

0:27:08.560 --> 0:27:11.640
<v Speaker 3>gotten so bad that in the three to five months

0:27:11.640 --> 0:27:16.200
<v Speaker 3>before the, Killings david was so worried he would not

0:27:16.600 --> 0:27:20.440
<v Speaker 3>Leave andrea alone When aarin was, there And andrea was

0:27:20.520 --> 0:27:23.600
<v Speaker 3>so scared of her brother that she would lock herself

0:27:23.640 --> 0:27:27.400
<v Speaker 3>in her. Room the state Claimed aaron did it because

0:27:27.400 --> 0:27:30.880
<v Speaker 3>he wanted to. Party they introduced evidence of his behavior

0:27:31.000 --> 0:27:32.920
<v Speaker 3>during the week after the murders to speak to his

0:27:32.960 --> 0:27:36.280
<v Speaker 3>state of. Mind they said he drank, smoke, pot had

0:27:36.360 --> 0:27:39.960
<v Speaker 3>sex and three, parties that he spent his stepfather's money

0:27:40.000 --> 0:27:43.200
<v Speaker 3>and stole his credit. Cards they claimed that he had

0:27:43.280 --> 0:27:47.200
<v Speaker 3>no rem and that one Of aaron's motives in killing

0:27:47.240 --> 0:27:51.160
<v Speaker 3>his victims was his desire to engage in a hedonistic,

0:27:51.200 --> 0:27:54.600
<v Speaker 3>lifestyle one that presumably he could not have engaged in

0:27:54.840 --> 0:27:59.880
<v Speaker 3>unless there were no adult. Witnesses Aaron hodge was found.

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<v Speaker 3>Guilty when asked by the judge if he had anything to, Say.

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<v Speaker 1>Aaron, Replied i'm not.

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<v Speaker 3>Guilty at the, time The Circuit court was required to

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<v Speaker 3>Sentence aron to the mandatory sentence life without the possibility of,

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<v Speaker 3>parole so in nineteen ninety, Six Aaron hodge was sent

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<v Speaker 3>to serve his time in maximum security at The East

0:28:21.600 --> 0:28:24.880
<v Speaker 3>Arkansas Regional unit In, marianna where he has been for

0:28:24.920 --> 0:28:36.920
<v Speaker 3>the last twenty nine. Years Aaron hodge is still in,

0:28:36.920 --> 0:28:42.120
<v Speaker 3>prison but he has a, Girlfriend. Jennifer jennifer Met aaron

0:28:42.160 --> 0:28:45.120
<v Speaker 3>as a. Child they reac connected much later when she

0:28:45.200 --> 0:28:48.640
<v Speaker 3>was going through a divorce in her. Forties jennifer said

0:28:48.880 --> 0:28:50.520
<v Speaker 3>she believes In aaron's.

0:28:50.520 --> 0:28:54.040
<v Speaker 4>INNOCENCE i think we were probably about nine ten years,

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<v Speaker 4>old and he lived right around the corner from my,

0:28:56.000 --> 0:28:57.640
<v Speaker 4>grandma SO i saw him all the time with his,

0:28:57.720 --> 0:29:00.600
<v Speaker 4>sister and our friends were kind of all the, same

0:29:00.640 --> 0:29:02.520
<v Speaker 4>AND i mean it was just an odd, Thing LIKE

0:29:02.640 --> 0:29:05.800
<v Speaker 4>i remember. SEVENTEEN i didn't talk to him from when

0:29:05.840 --> 0:29:09.520
<v Speaker 4>he was seventeen until about about three and a half years. Ago,

0:29:09.560 --> 0:29:12.240
<v Speaker 4>NOW i guess every year that he, went you, know

0:29:12.240 --> 0:29:13.760
<v Speaker 4>he'd have to come over here To, johnsboro And i'm

0:29:13.800 --> 0:29:15.880
<v Speaker 4>not even really sure for, what but he would have

0:29:15.920 --> 0:29:18.560
<v Speaker 4>to come over here And i'd see him on THE

0:29:19.640 --> 0:29:22.040
<v Speaker 4>ki two would slash that picture and it just break

0:29:22.080 --> 0:29:24.400
<v Speaker 4>my heart because he just looks but that's not even

0:29:24.400 --> 0:29:26.640
<v Speaker 4>what he looks. Like for, One i'll send you a picture,

0:29:26.720 --> 0:29:29.280
<v Speaker 4>too that's not even any of the pictures you see

0:29:29.440 --> 0:29:31.360
<v Speaker 4>of me looks so scary and he's. Not he does

0:29:31.400 --> 0:29:32.080
<v Speaker 4>not even look like.

0:29:32.120 --> 0:29:33.760
<v Speaker 1>That jennifer.

0:29:33.840 --> 0:29:36.280
<v Speaker 3>Said she And aaron started writing letters to each, other

0:29:36.840 --> 0:29:40.480
<v Speaker 3>which led to video, visits and then, eventually she said

0:29:40.480 --> 0:29:43.520
<v Speaker 3>that he opened up about what he claimed happened during

0:29:43.520 --> 0:29:46.120
<v Speaker 3>that fateful week In october in nineteen ninety.

0:29:46.160 --> 0:29:49.360
<v Speaker 4>Seven she had cheated And aaron was going out in

0:29:49.360 --> 0:29:51.400
<v Speaker 4>his face Because aaron had gotten them and he was

0:29:51.400 --> 0:29:52.760
<v Speaker 4>a punk, kid and he'll tell you, that he, Said

0:29:52.760 --> 0:29:54.520
<v Speaker 4>but that doesn't MEAN i killed my, mom you. Know

0:29:55.480 --> 0:29:58.000
<v Speaker 4>and they were into. It she was into it with.

0:29:58.080 --> 0:30:01.520
<v Speaker 4>Him aaron left to go to his friend's, house was

0:30:01.560 --> 0:30:03.760
<v Speaker 4>gone not long at. All when he came, back he,

0:30:03.800 --> 0:30:06.880
<v Speaker 4>said he walked, in he's heard something gurgling or, whatever

0:30:07.080 --> 0:30:09.760
<v Speaker 4>all the exact, words but his mom and sister were

0:30:09.760 --> 0:30:12.080
<v Speaker 4>dead and his stepdad had shot himself and he put

0:30:12.120 --> 0:30:14.360
<v Speaker 4>three more rounds. In it might believe it's his, words

0:30:14.400 --> 0:30:17.880
<v Speaker 4>but again that needs to come from. Him but it's

0:30:17.880 --> 0:30:20.480
<v Speaker 4>always been the. Same it's never changed, ever not. Once

0:30:21.200 --> 0:30:23.640
<v Speaker 4>eight months in is when he started opening up about.

0:30:23.680 --> 0:30:28.200
<v Speaker 4>It and Then i'd had a teenager go through adolescents

0:30:28.200 --> 0:30:30.880
<v Speaker 4>who we just, had you, know just buck wild and

0:30:31.440 --> 0:30:35.040
<v Speaker 4>went through. Stuff and SO i think that's WHY i

0:30:35.080 --> 0:30:37.240
<v Speaker 4>was put in the situation to be able to understand

0:30:37.280 --> 0:30:40.120
<v Speaker 4>and hear. It WHEN i, did and oh my, GOSH i,

0:30:40.120 --> 0:30:42.000
<v Speaker 4>MEAN i JUST i remember when he told the story

0:30:42.000 --> 0:30:44.200
<v Speaker 4>to me the first, time all the way, through my knee.

0:30:44.280 --> 0:30:46.600
<v Speaker 4>BUCKLED i, mean they just boockled BECAUSE i, KNEW i

0:30:46.680 --> 0:30:48.560
<v Speaker 4>knew in my heart that he was killing the.

0:30:48.600 --> 0:30:53.160
<v Speaker 3>Truth in twenty, twelve there was another strange twist in

0:30:53.200 --> 0:30:58.440
<v Speaker 3>this case because THE Us Supreme court decided that mandatory

0:30:58.760 --> 0:31:01.920
<v Speaker 3>life without the possibility of parole sentences for miners were.

0:31:01.960 --> 0:31:05.880
<v Speaker 3>Unconstitutional so that meant people under the age of eighteen

0:31:05.920 --> 0:31:09.120
<v Speaker 3>who were given a sentence of life without parole could

0:31:09.160 --> 0:31:14.520
<v Speaker 3>be eligible for. Resentencing this Included Aaron, hodge so this

0:31:14.720 --> 0:31:17.880
<v Speaker 3>paved the way For aaron to get another sentencing, hearing

0:31:18.440 --> 0:31:23.240
<v Speaker 3>which happened On december, sixth twenty twenty, two once again

0:31:23.400 --> 0:31:26.960
<v Speaker 3>information was presented to a jury in Craig Head. County

0:31:27.200 --> 0:31:30.480
<v Speaker 3>that jury Gave aaron a sentence of thirty, years which

0:31:30.520 --> 0:31:34.280
<v Speaker 3>meant that with time, Served Aaron hodge could be free

0:31:34.720 --> 0:31:37.240
<v Speaker 3>in as little as three, years which.

0:31:37.000 --> 0:31:39.360
<v Speaker 1>Would be the year twenty twenty.

0:31:39.360 --> 0:31:43.480
<v Speaker 3>Five he was eligible for parole before and went before

0:31:43.520 --> 0:31:46.920
<v Speaker 3>the parole board in twenty twenty, three but the information

0:31:47.000 --> 0:31:49.800
<v Speaker 3>THAT i could find said that the parole hearing that

0:31:49.840 --> 0:31:53.000
<v Speaker 3>happened in twenty twenty three was. Deferred so as of,

0:31:53.080 --> 0:31:58.840
<v Speaker 3>Today Aaron hodge is still behind, bars but he could

0:31:58.880 --> 0:32:04.560
<v Speaker 3>be free very. Soon jennifer said that her family had

0:32:04.600 --> 0:32:08.720
<v Speaker 3>expressed concerns about her relationship With, aaron but she says

0:32:08.760 --> 0:32:11.400
<v Speaker 3>some of them now believe That aaron is a changed.

0:32:11.440 --> 0:32:14.480
<v Speaker 4>MAN i was, like, look just go back down telling

0:32:14.520 --> 0:32:17.440
<v Speaker 4>you and he was this completely different. Person he Found,

0:32:17.440 --> 0:32:20.480
<v Speaker 4>god he you, know and everything he's saying out That he's,

0:32:20.520 --> 0:32:22.160
<v Speaker 4>LIKE i just want to have a house on the

0:32:22.240 --> 0:32:25.360
<v Speaker 4>end of the road with a dog and be able

0:32:25.400 --> 0:32:27.680
<v Speaker 4>to see a, sunset AND i see.

0:32:27.720 --> 0:32:32.240
<v Speaker 3>It aaron continues to maintain his innocence as he has

0:32:32.320 --> 0:32:35.560
<v Speaker 3>for the past thirty, years and his girlfriend says she

0:32:35.680 --> 0:32:36.680
<v Speaker 3>believes that he should be.

0:32:36.760 --> 0:32:39.640
<v Speaker 4>Released he talks about the sunset and goes over and,

0:32:39.640 --> 0:32:41.040
<v Speaker 4>over and he, said the first TIME i get out

0:32:41.040 --> 0:32:43.200
<v Speaker 4>of him and take a picture of the, sunset where

0:32:43.280 --> 0:32:45.680
<v Speaker 4>WERE I Whatever i'm, doing And i'm going to post

0:32:45.720 --> 0:32:49.080
<v Speaker 4>it on My facebook with my, name And i'm not gonna,

0:32:49.120 --> 0:32:52.480
<v Speaker 4>hide because you know, what everybody want to delve their,

0:32:52.520 --> 0:32:55.120
<v Speaker 4>life and they, did and they'll answer To god for.

0:32:55.200 --> 0:32:58.480
<v Speaker 4>That but this is my, turn And i'm going to

0:32:58.520 --> 0:33:01.440
<v Speaker 4>be exactly Who i'm going to, be And i'm going

0:33:01.520 --> 0:33:03.560
<v Speaker 4>to Thank god for it and realize how LUCKY i

0:33:03.600 --> 0:33:03.920
<v Speaker 4>am every.

0:33:04.000 --> 0:33:09.080
<v Speaker 3>Day of, course not everyone agreed with. This family members

0:33:09.080 --> 0:33:12.120
<v Speaker 3>and people close to the victims believed the rightful killer

0:33:12.520 --> 0:33:16.240
<v Speaker 3>was and is behind, bars and that releasing him will

0:33:16.280 --> 0:33:20.200
<v Speaker 3>be dangerous to the. Community aaron has had several disciplinary

0:33:20.280 --> 0:33:24.800
<v Speaker 3>violations while incarcerated at The East Arkansas REGIONAL. MAX a

0:33:24.880 --> 0:33:28.800
<v Speaker 3>petition on change dot org that has been circulated by

0:33:28.840 --> 0:33:32.800
<v Speaker 3>supporters of the victims' families claimed that the rescenencing hearing

0:33:32.880 --> 0:33:36.560
<v Speaker 3>was biased Because aaron was able to, quote introduce new,

0:33:36.600 --> 0:33:39.600
<v Speaker 3>evidence and spew wise and hatred on the stand all

0:33:39.640 --> 0:33:42.400
<v Speaker 3>the while us the victims were told to either stick

0:33:42.440 --> 0:33:44.320
<v Speaker 3>with what was said in the original try or have

0:33:44.400 --> 0:33:49.160
<v Speaker 3>our victim impact statements heavily edited end quote this. Petition

0:33:49.440 --> 0:33:52.920
<v Speaker 3>justice for The flicks said they believe that quote the

0:33:53.000 --> 0:33:56.080
<v Speaker 3>people Of, Rector arkansas on, us the victims who were

0:33:56.080 --> 0:34:00.040
<v Speaker 3>called to retestify and or to read victim's impact statements

0:34:00.360 --> 0:34:04.520
<v Speaker 3>are all potentially in danger of his wrath once he is.

0:34:04.600 --> 0:34:05.480
<v Speaker 1>Released end.

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<v Speaker 3>Quote they have asked that people reading the petition contact

0:34:09.880 --> 0:34:12.840
<v Speaker 3>the local government representatives to voice their opinions about the

0:34:12.920 --> 0:34:20.200
<v Speaker 3>danger of Releasing. Aron so, far this petition has gotten one,

0:34:20.240 --> 0:34:21.600
<v Speaker 3>thousand two hundred.

0:34:21.320 --> 0:34:22.120
<v Speaker 1>And sixty seven.

0:34:22.160 --> 0:34:26.160
<v Speaker 3>Signatures considering that there are only one, thousand eight hundred

0:34:26.200 --> 0:34:29.840
<v Speaker 3>and twenty three people In, Rector, arkansas two hundred and

0:34:29.880 --> 0:34:33.040
<v Speaker 3>sixty seven people signing a petition is a huge. Number

0:34:34.040 --> 0:34:37.520
<v Speaker 3>many of the people who attended parties At aaron's house

0:34:37.640 --> 0:34:40.120
<v Speaker 3>during the week That aaron was there with his family's

0:34:40.120 --> 0:34:44.000
<v Speaker 3>bodies have commented on social media that they they are

0:34:44.040 --> 0:34:47.280
<v Speaker 3>afraid that When aaron gets, out that he'll remember that

0:34:47.320 --> 0:34:50.600
<v Speaker 3>they talk to the. Police does the fact that he

0:34:50.680 --> 0:34:54.640
<v Speaker 3>continues to deny the killings mean that he has disassociated

0:34:54.720 --> 0:34:56.880
<v Speaker 3>himself from, them.

0:34:56.280 --> 0:34:57.520
<v Speaker 1>Or that he has no.

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<v Speaker 3>Remorse as the clock ticks down to his, release the

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<v Speaker 3>community continues to be. Divided I'm Katherine. Townsend this Is

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